I don’t care what anybody says!!....this is an awesome feature!!!.....thank you for whoever came up with it and thank you Joshua for letting the world know about it!!!!🙏🙏👏👏
I already have a frsky usb dongle that I use with liftoff and after watching this video, I had an F4 flight doing nothing and a spare R-XSR so I set it up as per your instructions and it works a treat, thank you to you and the person who got this feature working.
Amazing advice, thank you Josh. I'm a 43 year old total noob pilot and have purchased a couple of Mobula 7s to start whooping around my house and garden. As I made the mistake of trying to fly FPV before actually learning how to fly a drone, I've been crashing a LOT. Now, I've decided to learn to control the craft first, then I'll move to FPV once I'm a little more confident that I've built up a little muscle memory when it comes to actually controlling the darn thing! This hack, twinned with the kickass (and free) Tiny Whoop Go simulator has been an absolute godsend. I'm now working my way through the training exercises using my Spektrum Dx6i instead of my xbox controller. It's tougher but definitely way more helpful when I come to transfer back to the real world again tomorrow when the sun comes up. Thanks again!
This is why I subcribe to the know it all. I've never been able to play a sim. Today I'll see if I can give it a try! Many thanks Joshua. Flysky user here, great news for us pilots!
Found this a long time after it was published, but for anyone interested, I did some latency measurements on a Unity based Sim. Using a QX7 via an XSR/OmnibusF4 combo (D16), the delay from switch press to screen change is 80mS up to about 100mS (lots of asynchronous activities, the variability is probably dependent on where you catch them). Swap that for a direct USB connection and it knocks about 20mS off, so the RF approach is about 20mS worse. Not surprising when you consider the extra stages invloved. For comparison, switch to some FC action (real quad) is about 20 to 40mS, averages about 30mS. Much faster, a lot of the Sim delay is probably the PC driver mechanism. However, it is not a fair comparison. To genuinely compare the quad and Sim you would need to add in the camera to FPV screen/goggles delay on the quad, because that is all part of the control loop. Don't know what that is, but maybe 20-30mS. So, in reality, the Sim response is fairly close to the quad, but the Sim Rx link makes it about 20mS worse compared to USB. I find this noticeably affects my speed and likelihood of crashing on a Sim. Would like to try the genuine FrSky Sim USB dongle - it might be faster as there may be less processing stages involved - but I don't have one.
Man you are an angel... I just gave up on connecting my fs i6 to my computer and started playing with a xbox Controller and than i watched your Video! Thanks so much
I can confirm it works on mac.. didn't do anything special it just worked.. i was playing freerider recharged and worked a treat.. nice work betaflight crew its awesome..
Joshua, your Channel ROCKS! I like a lot of other channels but many of them are Review oriented. Your channel is very centric to the education level of Drone education ranging from the beginner level all the way to the deeper end of the technical spectrum. I am new to the FPV hobby but I am an Engineer with many years of experience where I benefit from the deep technical knowledge that you often take the channel.
Hey Joshua. Thanks for this. Works great. Just a note I used my actual quad and had to plug in my battery to power my RX. A word of warning if this is your case as well. The quad still arms if connected to the sim so take your props off lol. The FC also eventually starts beeping in beacon mode which is annoying. So flip your arm switch on and off (props off) and it stops. Thanks for all the great content.
Fantastic, JB! I'm going to try it! 😀 One tip that looks like most people don't know: you can setup switches of the Taranis in Liftoff. What you need to do is to set the switches from channel 9 upwards (9, 10, 11 and so on). Then, on Liftoff, you go to options, control, buttons and set them in the right column. But the switches only works as 2 way switches. But you can have a switch to arm, another to pause, another to reset and so on. 😊
Man I have had drone's but not fpv i got one and it lasted a 4 days man water, I say" it splashed into the motherboard but everything else is fine well I bought another next time I know never near water. :(
I have a fs i6 and this was super helpful. I tried using smart propo plus and it didn't work on my computer. This did and I am so thankful. Your videos have been such a great help as I have built and am learning to fly my first fpv quad!
Not sure if anyone will see this comment on a 3-year-old video but here goes... I don't know anything about fpv quads, I'm trying to set up a simulator before I get a quad. Not knowing anything about the fpv system what what do I need to set up a simulator? I want it to be realistic so I want to use the same radio and goggles that I'll use when I get a drone, eh, quad so starting from there what would you recommend? I don't want a toy quad just to play with. When the time comes I want to get something like a cine whoop or five or seven inch, something that can carry a GoPro and get good footage. In this video you mentioned Tyrannis radios. Are they good ones to use to fly or did you just mention it because they have a USB which is helpful for the simulator? Thank you!
This is awesome! Just flew over 2 hours in the sim... no more latency than using the usb cable and I can hold my controller the way I want without the cord in the way! Awesome! (Using crazybee F4 whoop board) thanks Josh you rock!
I have 3 older RC Helicopters sitting around with one having a Spectrum DX6 so I will give it a try instead of heading out and buying a new Radio Transmitter controller, Thanks
Nice Josh! And thank you Betaflight developers! Just as an option for others without f4 boards, hobby king has the dsmx/flysky wireless dongles for $16 in the US. I’ve purchase some 20+ dongles for students this year and they work great!
Totally hate to purchase extra cables only for sim training. At least now is possible to involve quad in process :D I'm curious what about cheap 200+ mW VTX-es - they will fry to crisp during such sim training session. Seems VTX with PIT mode is mandatory to play sim games with connected quad.
If you can compile your own betaflight it's pretty easy to get rid of stuff you don't want (like GPS or protocols you don't use) and make space for this on an F3 board.
Yes Yes Yes!! I've been using this cruddy old Dynam usb simulator thing forever.. It worked, and made me think I was a really terrible pilot! I've been using my fs-i10 all day and turns out I wasn't as bad as I thought.
Thank you. Good video. I'm just starting out in FPV and this is sorta really hard to get it all together. I like your initial advice. Crash the sim drone 200+ times and get to the point where you can see the limitations of the sim.
My friend resolved his issue on Mac. For people who are on Mac & use the dongle (need to put on G5/G7 Above) = doesn't work on USB3. Just need to connect a USB2 hub on USB3 & it works. Surely it can be helpfull.
I will be using this feature, tired of the USB cable coming out of the bottom of my Q7S. Sometimes it comes unplugged in the middle of a simulator session. FPVModel had their X-Racer F4 on sale the other day for $20 so I jumped on it. Got an XM RX and I'm going to build a little box for my USB connection using an old 3S battery. Wish I had kept an old F4 I threw away because of solder pad issues, would have been perfect.
@@lucywucyyy can you help me out? i bought LiftOff and got a FS-T4B from a friend, so i got the SM100 Cable from Amazon yesterday, but the LitfOff Calibration does not even recognize the movement on the sticks even tho my Windows recognize there is a controller plugged in
There are other options for those transmitters without USB: 1. Connect your Kwad to PC and use VJoySerialFeeder with MultiWii protocol (works even with F3 boards): ruclips.net/video/6RsGqLJqsD4/видео.html 2. Connect spare receiver to Arduino board and use VJoySerialFeeder: ruclips.net/video/TRnu2_TI9Vk/видео.html 3. Connect spare receiver to Arduino board, flash it with firmware supporting HUD USB Joystick (works with PPM and maybe SBUS)
Is there a way to know if a FC I’m buying will be powered by usb alone? As I’m looking around for units I’m finding that it’s not an advertised feature (I don’t think).
Another FRSKY issue/// I bought the XSRSIM usb RX and it seems to say i can bind to a DJT module but cannot seem to get it working. Is that internet lies and i need an XJT module or new radio?? Thank you Joshua in advance.
What is the cheapest FC in 2022 that would also have a receiver to use exclusively for a simulator? Really want to practice on a simulator but I have a F3 flight controller :/ don't want to buy an expensive FC as well as a new receiver
Wow! This was unexpected... Being one of the few radiolink users that I know, I always felt deprived of a great simulator experience. Thanks for the heads up!
Do you know if i can use my new ruko gim2 controller with an old ruko drone? the batteries are the same everything else looks the same i just want all my drones you have longer Distance the new controller transmits over a mile the old controller not even nine hundred feet. Do I need to change the flight control board?
Hi, I have a mavic and a phantom, I would like to know if it is possible to use DJI controls for simulators like this. I know it works with the Dji Flight Simulator (plug and play) but I would like to simulate racing drones. Thanks for all!
I do have a Taranis and it came with a USB that works amazingly with simulators but it also charges the radio when it's plugged in (I guess because the computer just sees it as a joystick that needs constant power to work). I feel like that's gotta be bad for the 2s lipo I have in the radio so what should I do? P.S. I feel like that would happen even if I plugged it in for firmware updates although I haven't tried that yet.
Long time viewer - first time caller. Anyone know why, when using a flight controller as an HID device like in this video, one would experience CRAZY bad controller lag. I'm talking like 2-3 seconds or more. This is using the CrazyBee F4S Lite v4.2 Board in the Mobula 6. Everyother FC I have - no issue. This board, though, unuseable lag issues in a simulator. Thoughts?
smoked an F4 trying to turtle recently. I use a tablet to sim with and HATE the cable... this will ROCK if it actually works. will update shortly (@2 hours after home from work)
I have a bunch of slightly damaged F3 flight controllers laying around. Is it possible to create a custom BF version for it with this feature on? I mean i wouldn't use them for flying anyway. So it doesn't need a lot of stuff, it could contain this function instead of others.
Great knowledge....Ty but I'm still not able to make it work? Do you keep it plugged into betaflight and have it connected the whole time or just save and then got to game and then power it up and bind with the fc your going to use? Also using Chromebook so with no drivers and a Mac thats 10.5.8 😤..I am running Linux on the Chromebook and in betaflight it recognizes the usb? So I know I dont get it... I know I gotta deal with the Mac OS lol but am dying to try a sim...any suggestions... Ty again for all your info....
Works great! Got a cheap OBF4 and an XM RX. FC powers the RX with USB, so don't need a battery. Only problem I've encountered is after enabling the USB command it turns the FC into a game controller and it's no longer a com port and BF doesn't recognize it so it can't connect. Only way to I found to turn it off was to use the bootloader and rewrite the firmware. Easy enough with my dedicated FC but not if you use a highly configured quad.
There was already a thread on there about it so I tried the fix that was suggested and it worked. It was a STM driver issue, apparently mine was too old so this updated it. Thanks for the suggestion to head over there.
Just an observation mate if you bought a sim with a usb dongle +wire to any 5v point on the dongle -wire to any ground point on the dongle and a signal wire connected to the ppm signal of your usb dongle (i use a servo wire) connect the plug from the dongle to your ppm rc receivers ppm port and you have a rc system connected to your pc via ppm ANY ppm rx will work and thats been possible to do for years? ie when ppm rx's came out for the original dx6i i modded my dongle and when i got my devo7e and modded it it linked to the same modded dongle via spektrums ppm rx might save those who dont know a bit of money ;)
its the same as making a ppm wire to conect transmitter to pc only this way its wireless and has the same range as your rx :) in theory if your rx transmits half a mile + you could stand at the back of wembly stadium link a pc to the massive screens run your sim and enjoy :D
I am having an issue with my FlySky FS-I6x. I followed all instructions in the video and when I tried to use FPV Freestyle, the sticks on my trans. seem not to be calibrated. I went into the settings and calibrated them to make sure. I have reset the transmitter to factory and started all over again, I even flashed BACK to BF 3.4.... Nothing is working. any tips?
that is pretty awesome... however there is a few options still... buy a "22 in 1 rc flight simulator cable" and it'll use the trainer port set it to the VRC setting (at least on mine) and the computer uses it as a joystick controller... it's wired but it works fine, I use my taranis and then my son uses his frsky without issue.
Ive watched a lot of your videos over the last year, and you know what? I learned something! Thanks for this one especially. I've been wanting to get into fpv for a while but with a radiolink transmitter i could never get the sims to work. Now I'm going to give it a try! My first custom build is an old dji flamewheel with a cc3d, is there a good f4 or f7 board you would recommend for this frame?
can you recommend a flight controller that would be good for this purpose alone? i have an fsi6 and using the simulator cable sucks as only the gimbals work, the switches and knobs dont, plus the cable is pretty annoying i wanna do this but i dont have a flight controller just a receiver. whats the cheapest one that will be powered by usb and work for this? also i intend to fly planes not quads does the flight controller matter for that?
After saving the code I cannot connect my FC to the betaflight configurator any more, can any one have the solution for this? It said failed to open serial port.
I wasn't too disappointed with the SmartPropoPlus solution. It worked quite nice after fiddling together a mono cable... Too bad that this new feature requires F4 or higher though...
I use SmartPropo as well -- just have to fiddle with my microphone settings to get it to work -- It works for me with a stereo cable. But I wonder if this is a better latency connection due to the digital protocol rather than PPM.
I watched this video months ago but i didn't have an F4 board. I finally got hold of a Betaflight F4 v3 yesterday and tried connecting my FS-IA6B. Uart6 seems to be unusable with the FS-IA6B but luckily it works on Uart3. So the covid lockdown continues on a simulator. ;-)
@@oiMulDerx Windows installs it as a wheel and messes with Yaw and throttle and I havent got past that problem yet. In Betaflight the receiver works 100% on all axis and buttons. set up your what?
@@oiMulDerx I havent given up yet but it is a test for sure. I'm not sure if the radio isnt playing a small part as well as windows. Mines no longer accessible in Betaflight as it's no longer on a com port. Luckily there are plenty of hours left but I am getting hungry.
Hi . This was fantastic advice. I hooked up my Emax Tinyhawk to my computer and ran Velocidrone, using the toy-like Emax controller and it all worked. Until I replaced my controller with a Jumper T16. Now I can't use this technique because the sim doesn't see the controller anymore. I reset the sim and still nothing. I tried USB-ing from radio to computer, setting the radio to 'joystick'. Still nothing. What am I doing wrong?
I don't think the program memory on the F3 boards is the issue, it is because the F4/7 support multiple USB devices... or... it would be possible to use an old F3 board just for the simulator with a slimmed down build!
Thx dude i just happened to lose my crappy homemade flysky audio cable. Not to mention i’m trying to make a fpv game and it was impossible without this kind of solution!
Haha nice it worked and was fun for an hour! Though, now I can not Connect to betaflight any more:( the second I saved the set USB command I lost connection to betaflight.
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I don’t care what anybody says!!....this is an awesome feature!!!.....thank you for whoever came up with it and thank you Joshua for letting the world know about it!!!!🙏🙏👏👏
I already have a frsky usb dongle that I use with liftoff and after watching this video, I had an F4 flight doing nothing and a spare R-XSR so I set it up as per your instructions and it works a treat, thank you to you and the person who got this feature working.
Amazing advice, thank you Josh.
I'm a 43 year old total noob pilot and have purchased a couple of Mobula 7s to start whooping around my house and garden. As I made the mistake of trying to fly FPV before actually learning how to fly a drone, I've been crashing a LOT. Now, I've decided to learn to control the craft first, then I'll move to FPV once I'm a little more confident that I've built up a little muscle memory when it comes to actually controlling the darn thing!
This hack, twinned with the kickass (and free) Tiny Whoop Go simulator has been an absolute godsend.
I'm now working my way through the training exercises using my Spektrum Dx6i instead of my xbox controller. It's tougher but definitely way more helpful when I come to transfer back to the real world again tomorrow when the sun comes up.
Thanks again!
Josh is the best!!!!!!! Nobody better on explaining how she's done!!!!!
Big THANKS!!!!!!
This is why I subcribe to the know it all. I've never been able to play a sim. Today I'll see if I can give it a try! Many thanks Joshua. Flysky user here, great news for us pilots!
Is there a way to get our controller to work on Xbox One for DCL?
@@johnphillips7444 I have dualshock 4 it works with DCL. I don't have xbox controller but i think that should work.
John Phillips yes you just have to connect it to Bluetooth through settings on your computer
I need to clarify, Is there a way to connect our RC flight controller to Xbox One, to play DCL on it.
Found this a long time after it was published, but for anyone interested, I did some latency measurements on a Unity based Sim.
Using a QX7 via an XSR/OmnibusF4 combo (D16), the delay from switch press to screen change is 80mS up to about 100mS (lots of asynchronous activities, the variability is probably dependent on where you catch them). Swap that for a direct USB connection and it knocks about 20mS off, so the RF approach is about 20mS worse. Not surprising when you consider the extra stages invloved.
For comparison, switch to some FC action (real quad) is about 20 to 40mS, averages about 30mS. Much faster, a lot of the Sim delay is probably the PC driver mechanism.
However, it is not a fair comparison. To genuinely compare the quad and Sim you would need to add in the camera to FPV screen/goggles delay on the quad, because that is all part of the control loop. Don't know what that is, but maybe 20-30mS.
So, in reality, the Sim response is fairly close to the quad, but the Sim Rx link makes it about 20mS worse compared to USB. I find this noticeably affects my speed and likelihood of crashing on a Sim.
Would like to try the genuine FrSky Sim USB dongle - it might be faster as there may be less processing stages involved - but I don't have one.
Man you are an angel... I just gave up on connecting my fs i6 to my computer and started playing with a xbox Controller and than i watched your Video! Thanks so much
I can confirm it works on mac.. didn't do anything special it just worked.. i was playing freerider recharged and worked a treat.. nice work betaflight crew its awesome..
Joshua, your Channel ROCKS! I like a lot of other channels but many of them are Review oriented. Your channel is very centric to the education level of Drone education ranging from the beginner level all the way to the deeper end of the technical spectrum. I am new to the FPV hobby but I am an Engineer with many years of experience where I benefit from the deep technical knowledge that you often take the channel.
Thanks for the feedback!
Hey Joshua. Thanks for this. Works great. Just a note I used my actual quad and had to plug in my battery to power my RX. A word of warning if this is your case as well. The quad still arms if connected to the sim so take your props off lol. The FC also eventually starts beeping in beacon mode which is annoying. So flip your arm switch on and off (props off) and it stops. Thanks for all the great content.
Fantastic, JB! I'm going to try it! 😀
One tip that looks like most people don't know: you can setup switches of the Taranis in Liftoff. What you need to do is to set the switches from channel 9 upwards (9, 10, 11 and so on). Then, on Liftoff, you go to options, control, buttons and set them in the right column. But the switches only works as 2 way switches. But you can have a switch to arm, another to pause, another to reset and so on. 😊
But the betaflight joystick emulation only transmits the 1st 8 channels.
Joshua Bardwell Oh, no, I mean when you connect via USB. 😊
absolute valid point. My story short. Bought a racing drone, flew less then 5 minutes. my drone crashed into a river and that was my drone.
Man I have had drone's but not fpv i got one and it lasted a 4 days man water, I say" it splashed into the motherboard but everything else is fine well I bought another next time I know never near water. :(
In case anyone searched the description and didn't find the command:
set usb_hid_cdc = on
Thanks man!
its been over a year since flying a quad really grateful for this....thanks can practice before I take to the skies
Awesome work BF. Very impressed and glad to see a feature that is so beneficial in helping the community grow!!!!!!!!
I have a fs i6 and this was super helpful. I tried using smart propo plus and it didn't work on my computer. This did and I am so thankful. Your videos have been such a great help as I have built and am learning to fly my first fpv quad!
Do you know if the fs i6 is actually being recognized as a gamepad so you can also use it in different games like other controllers?
Not sure if anyone will see this comment on a 3-year-old video but here goes...
I don't know anything about fpv quads, I'm trying to set up a simulator before I get a quad. Not knowing anything about the fpv system what what do I need to set up a simulator? I want it to be realistic so I want to use the same radio and goggles that I'll use when I get a drone, eh, quad so starting from there what would you recommend?
I don't want a toy quad just to play with. When the time comes I want to get something like a cine whoop or five or seven inch, something that can carry a GoPro and get good footage.
In this video you mentioned Tyrannis radios. Are they good ones to use to fly or did you just mention it because they have a USB which is helpful for the simulator? Thank you!
5 years ago and I just did this for the first time. Looks like could be more reliable than the elrs bluetooth which never worked for me, neat!
This is awesome! Just flew over 2 hours in the sim... no more latency than using the usb cable and I can hold my controller the way I want without the cord in the way! Awesome! (Using crazybee F4 whoop board) thanks Josh you rock!
I have 3 older RC Helicopters sitting around with one having a Spectrum DX6 so I will give it a try instead of heading out and buying a new Radio Transmitter controller, Thanks
How can this man be so smart?
Nice Josh! And thank you Betaflight developers!
Just as an option for others without f4 boards, hobby king has the dsmx/flysky wireless dongles for $16 in the US. I’ve purchase some 20+ dongles for students this year and they work great!
Totally hate to purchase extra cables only for sim training. At least now is possible to involve quad in process :D
I'm curious what about cheap 200+ mW VTX-es - they will fry to crisp during such sim training session. Seems VTX with PIT mode is mandatory to play sim games with connected quad.
Does this still work in 2024 or has there been something new and improved to be able to connect your TX to your PC?
If you can compile your own betaflight it's pretty easy to get rid of stuff you don't want (like GPS or protocols you don't use) and make space for this on an F3 board.
Yes Yes Yes!! I've been using this cruddy old Dynam usb simulator thing forever.. It worked, and made me think I was a really terrible pilot! I've been using my fs-i10 all day and turns out I wasn't as bad as I thought.
Omg than you I’ve been told I can’t play sims this whole time cause I have the tinygo gr8 radio but it works now!!!
Thank you. Good video. I'm just starting out in FPV and this is sorta really hard to get it all together. I like your initial advice. Crash the sim drone 200+ times and get to the point where you can see the limitations of the sim.
My friend resolved his issue on Mac. For people who are on Mac & use the dongle (need to put on G5/G7 Above) = doesn't work on USB3. Just need to connect a USB2 hub on USB3 & it works. Surely it can be helpfull.
I understand this applies to drones but would it work ok to fly fixed wing in say realflight?
We are not worthy of the betaflight developers. Great work!
I will be using this feature, tired of the USB cable coming out of the bottom of my Q7S. Sometimes it comes unplugged in the middle of a simulator session. FPVModel had their X-Racer F4 on sale the other day for $20 so I jumped on it. Got an XM RX and I'm going to build a little box for my USB connection using an old 3S battery. Wish I had kept an old F4 I threw away because of solder pad issues, would have been perfect.
Thank you, I wish I saw this video before I bought the Flysky Sm100 USB adopter.
I just bought 2 OTG cables.. One is micro USB on both sides, the other one is a 4 wire splitter.
same the sm100 sucks
@@lucywucyyy can you help me out? i bought LiftOff and got a FS-T4B from a friend, so i got the SM100 Cable from Amazon yesterday, but the LitfOff Calibration does not even recognize the movement on the sticks even tho my Windows recognize there is a controller plugged in
@@dronefeverpty9594 i wish i could help but honestly i ahve no idea what im doing myself, i havnt gotten anything workign either lol
@@lucywucyyy AWW, thanks anyways!
Thanks for the video, Josh. I just realized my Boxer and I wanted to get used to it.
There are other options for those transmitters without USB:
1. Connect your Kwad to PC and use VJoySerialFeeder with MultiWii protocol (works even with F3 boards): ruclips.net/video/6RsGqLJqsD4/видео.html
2. Connect spare receiver to Arduino board and use VJoySerialFeeder: ruclips.net/video/TRnu2_TI9Vk/видео.html
3. Connect spare receiver to Arduino board, flash it with firmware supporting HUD USB Joystick (works with PPM and maybe SBUS)
can you use a dji controller on this game?
Is there a way to know if a FC I’m buying will be powered by usb alone? As I’m looking around for units I’m finding that it’s not an advertised feature (I don’t think).
Aye, I will build I custom racing drone. Can I use my toy controller to fly it?
how about a skycontroller 1 by parrot bebop? is it possible to enter the simulator?
I don't think so.
Another FRSKY issue/// I bought the XSRSIM usb RX and it seems to say i can bind to a DJT module but cannot seem to get it working. Is that internet lies and i need an XJT module or new radio?? Thank you Joshua in advance.
What is the cheapest FC in 2022 that would also have a receiver to use exclusively for a simulator? Really want to practice on a simulator but I have a F3 flight controller :/ don't want to buy an expensive FC as well as a new receiver
Wow! This was unexpected... Being one of the few radiolink users that I know, I always felt deprived of a great simulator experience. Thanks for the heads up!
now all i need is a time machine.
Do you know if i can use my new ruko gim2 controller with an old ruko drone? the batteries are the same everything else looks the same i just want all my drones you have longer Distance the new controller transmits over a mile the old controller not even nine hundred feet. Do I need to change the flight control board?
Great Stuff Josh, What about a DJI transmitter? will that also work on simulator?
Yes it just plugs right in to the PC.
Buddy Fried the USB Port of my qx7... Now i found this, no need to replace the Mainboard 👍
Hi, I have a mavic and a phantom, I would like to know if it is possible to use DJI controls for simulators like this. I know it works with the Dji Flight Simulator (plug and play) but I would like to simulate racing drones. Thanks for all!
Same question here, but cannot find answer for it. :(
I do have a Taranis and it came with a USB that works amazingly with simulators but it also charges the radio when it's plugged in (I guess because the computer just sees it as a joystick that needs constant power to work). I feel like that's gotta be bad for the 2s lipo I have in the radio so what should I do? P.S. I feel like that would happen even if I plugged it in for firmware updates although I haven't tried that yet.
Does this work on mac as well? Sorry I'm new to all this
Would this also work on a Mac?
Long time viewer - first time caller. Anyone know why, when using a flight controller as an HID device like in this video, one would experience CRAZY bad controller lag. I'm talking like 2-3 seconds or more. This is using the CrazyBee F4S Lite v4.2 Board in the Mobula 6. Everyother FC I have - no issue. This board, though, unuseable lag issues in a simulator. Thoughts?
smoked an F4 trying to turtle recently. I use a tablet to sim with and HATE the cable... this will ROCK if it actually works. will update shortly (@2 hours after home from work)
F4 crazybee AIO from a mob7... micro USB on FC to USBC on tablet. QX7S is miniUSB to USBC. we shall see....
So I am only confused on finding out if my controller is f1, I have a devo devention 7 would that work
I have a bunch of slightly damaged F3 flight controllers laying around. Is it possible to create a custom BF version for it with this feature on? I mean i wouldn't use them for flying anyway. So it doesn't need a lot of stuff, it could contain this function instead of others.
Great knowledge....Ty but I'm still not able to make it work? Do you keep it plugged into betaflight and have it connected the whole time or just save and then got to game and then power it up and bind with the fc your going to use? Also using Chromebook so with no drivers and a Mac thats 10.5.8 😤..I am running Linux on the Chromebook and in betaflight it recognizes the usb? So I know I dont get it... I know I gotta deal with the Mac OS lol but am dying to try a sim...any suggestions... Ty again for all your info....
Works great! Got a cheap OBF4 and an XM RX. FC powers the RX with USB, so don't need a battery. Only problem I've encountered is after enabling the USB command it turns the FC into a game controller and it's no longer a com port and BF doesn't recognize it so it can't connect. Only way to I found to turn it off was to use the bootloader and rewrite the firmware. Easy enough with my dedicated FC but not if you use a highly configured quad.
Report this as a bug in Github.
There was already a thread on there about it so I tried the fix that was suggested and it worked. It was a STM driver issue, apparently mine was too old so this updated it. Thanks for the suggestion to head over there.
Would there be any negative to putting your vtx into pit mode? Would this keep the heat down enough to sit there while I fly on the simulator? Thanks!
thanks again I had drl but would not connect. All is well now.
Just an observation mate if you bought a sim with a usb dongle +wire to any 5v point on the dongle -wire to any ground point on the dongle and a signal wire connected to the ppm signal of your usb dongle (i use a servo wire) connect the plug from the dongle to your ppm rc receivers ppm port and you have a rc system connected to your pc via ppm
ANY ppm rx will work and thats been possible to do for years? ie when ppm rx's came out for the original dx6i i modded my dongle and when i got my devo7e and modded it it linked to the same modded dongle via spektrums ppm rx
might save those who dont know a bit of money ;)
its the same as making a ppm wire to conect transmitter to pc only this way its wireless and has the same range as your rx :) in theory if your rx transmits half a mile + you could stand at the back of wembly stadium link a pc to the massive screens run your sim and enjoy :D
Because es6 of tinyhawk not work with Android and Mac?
I am having an issue with my FlySky FS-I6x. I followed all instructions in the video and when I tried to use FPV Freestyle, the sticks on my trans. seem not to be calibrated. I went into the settings and calibrated them to make sure. I have reset the transmitter to factory and started all over again, I even flashed BACK to BF 3.4.... Nothing is working. any tips?
that is pretty awesome... however there is a few options still... buy a "22 in 1 rc flight simulator cable" and it'll use the trainer port set it to the VRC setting (at least on mine) and the computer uses it as a joystick controller... it's wired but it works fine, I use my taranis and then my son uses his frsky without issue.
Is this still the best way to do this, I have an eachine novice 3 and am struggling
How do I use TX16S on a simulator? Is it the same process? Can I just connect to the USB? Please help.
Ive watched a lot of your videos over the last year, and you know what? I learned something! Thanks for this one especially. I've been wanting to get into fpv for a while but with a radiolink transmitter i could never get the sims to work. Now I'm going to give it a try! My first custom build is an old dji flamewheel with a cc3d, is there a good f4 or f7 board you would recommend for this frame?
www.fpvknowitall.com/ultimate-fpv-shopping-list/
That's my suggestion for parts and tools, including flight controllers :-)
if i have taranis and i connect with usb do i still need to put batteries to it?
can you recommend a flight controller that would be good for this purpose alone?
i have an fsi6 and using the simulator cable sucks as only the gimbals work, the switches and knobs dont, plus the cable is pretty annoying i wanna do this but i dont have a flight controller just a receiver.
whats the cheapest one that will be powered by usb and work for this?
also i intend to fly planes not quads does the flight controller matter for that?
nvm i didnt check the description
What’s the advantage of this do you get to use your PIDs?
Nvm dumb question I doubt it lol
After saving the code I cannot connect my FC to the betaflight configurator any more, can any one have the solution for this? It said failed to open serial port.
This works great! Much better than the cable I was dragging around
I wasn't too disappointed with the SmartPropoPlus solution. It worked quite nice after fiddling together a mono cable...
Too bad that this new feature requires F4 or higher though...
I use SmartPropo as well -- just have to fiddle with my microphone settings to get it to work -- It works for me with a stereo cable. But I wonder if this is a better latency connection due to the digital protocol rather than PPM.
Ppm is fine for me as i flight with ppm in real life too :-)
How do i set up the throttle on my beta fpv controller
hi mate can you also connect a radio link t8fb
Hi Josh
Is it also working for Apple computers?
thanks for reply
Yes, I believe so.
Just did this with a betafpv v1 and it took and returns on, but drl can't see it. Thoughts?
wish it worked for me. Did as suggested but PC does not show new controller and Velocidrone doesn't detect it either
Wow, completely missed this upload JB. Outstanding!
And here we are at the doorway to BF 4.0 :-)
What simulator is that, with the container yard?
Hi & thx for this great tutorial. Is it ok for Mac or is there stg special to downl & to do, pls ? thx ^^
What’s the best sim out there now?
I watched this video months ago but i didn't have an F4 board. I finally got hold of a Betaflight F4 v3 yesterday and tried connecting my FS-IA6B. Uart6 seems to be unusable with the FS-IA6B but luckily it works on Uart3. So the covid lockdown continues on a simulator. ;-)
could you please tell me how to set it up? Mine connects, but every channel is ON/OFF. So Full throttle or no throttle etc
@@oiMulDerx Windows installs it as a wheel and messes with Yaw and throttle and I havent got past that problem yet.
In Betaflight the receiver works 100% on all axis and buttons.
set up your what?
@@spex357 yes same here. But it ofcourse is unusable as it is now, but I cant fix the end points/rates etc. Calibration doesnt work
@@oiMulDerx I havent given up yet but it is a test for sure.
I'm not sure if the radio isnt playing a small part as well as windows. Mines no longer accessible in Betaflight as it's no longer on a com port. Luckily there are plenty of hours left but I am getting hungry.
@@oiMulDerx I managed to get it working on a Arduino and using Vjoy. But yaw is missing on one simulator and the rates need altering.
What about my DJI Mavic Air transmitter? What flight controller should I buy?
DJI transmitter only works with DJI drone.
Ah “any transmitter as long as it’s not a DJI” :-)
its 2020, is there a way to use f3 flight controllers?
You can also connect your receiver to arduino. I think it was limited to PPM/IBUS Receiver but there is a script for using sbus receiver too.
more this: ruclips.net/video/TRnu2_TI9Vk/видео.html + github.com/Robinhuett/sbuscontroller
Will this work on a Xbox one
Hi . This was fantastic advice. I hooked up my Emax Tinyhawk to my computer and ran Velocidrone, using the toy-like Emax controller and it all worked. Until I replaced my controller with a Jumper T16. Now I can't use this technique because the sim doesn't see the controller anymore. I reset the sim and still nothing. I tried USB-ing from radio to computer, setting the radio to 'joystick'. Still nothing. What am I doing wrong?
Never mind. Got it sorted out. Have to bind the drone after I turn off and turn on the radio. Thanks.
help please! freerider can't display centered transmitter in freerider calibration. what should i do?
Thank you very much!
Awesome! I'm flashing that old BabyHawk board right now.
You are the best Josh. Thank you for all your good news
I don't think the program memory on the F3 boards is the issue, it is because the F4/7 support multiple USB devices...
or... it would be possible to use an old F3 board just for the simulator with a slimmed down build!
Josh i did this after saving it it would not let me reconnect board to betaflight please help
Thx dude i just happened to lose my crappy homemade flysky audio cable. Not to mention i’m trying to make a fpv game and it was impossible without this kind of solution!
Omg where was this video when I got started 😂😂😭😭😭😭 thanks JB for the video it's helped loads
Haha nice it worked and was fun for an hour! Though, now I can not Connect to betaflight any more:( the second I saved the set USB command I lost connection to betaflight.
Turnigy Evolution plugs in as a general joystick. And it is charges from USB, wich is cool.
Finally a decent reason to get a betaflight board ;) … thanks Joshua, this was very helpful
Everything was left in the dust by KISS XD
Is this possible with the latest inav?
"Take your props off, you dufus!" - J. Bardwell , 2018
Looooved that. Thanks for a rare morning chuckle!
I used to use Radiolink AT9 with Liftoff without any issues, you just had to buy proper usb dongle for couple of euros
Just keeps getting better.TY JB