And the Mets were correct in letting Conforto go because Conforto was not the same player afterwards. He declined. Just like Alonso will decline. Which is why the Mets are better off getting a 1 year deal (be it Alonso or Santana or Goldschmidt) for a 1B, and going after Vlad Jr next winter. David Stearns correctly doesn't care for irrational fan sentiment. Stearns only cares about winning.
They would if you're someone they want badly (e.g. Soto). Pete just thinks of himself way more highly than anyone else. He's simply not that good. I'm not paying $30M/yr for what he brings. I'm not even paying $20M/yr for that.
@@boomshakalaka8567I think it has a lot more to do with Boras than Alonso. Boras tries to swindle big deals for average players. Alonso is better than any of his free agents from last year (except maybe Snell).
Yeah and as you see in the comments they treat it as if he's greedy when it's mostly Boras' bad advice that draws the dead market. Nobody wants to deal with Boras clients if they don't have to.
Met fan here and I like Pete. The problem is that he disappears for months at a time. He'll start chasing low and away breaking pitches and just can't stop chasing them. He doesn't get on base that much and is slow on the base paths. In the last 2 years his slash line is .229/.324/.480/.804 with 323 K's. With all that power he didn't even crack the .500 SLG mark. He is a solid defender though no matter what anyone says but overall is not worth the large contract he's seeking.
He's an awful defender, its not an opinion it's an objective fact. Look at Baseball Savant, he's -9 outs above average which ranks him in the bottom 3%, his arm is rated 2/100 and his sprint speed is 20/100
Even though he hit that game saving home run against the Brewers. He will be remembered as not catching that fly ball by the net in the play offs( which every other 1st baseman would catch) and in the same game, when he thew his bat down and he tripped over it running to first base. That blew my mind. Or that comical way he tries to out run a ball and got tagged many times, especially at home place. Where the outfielder just lollypopped it to home plate and still tagged Alonso out
@@Goated_ChiefKeef Alonso only put up a 2-ish WAR last season. He isn't as good as his irrational fans make him out to be. He isn't so bad that he should be out of baseball either. His days of 40 bombs a year are likely behind him.
He's clutch??? What are you talking about? He batted .215 with runners on base. He batted .154 with the bases loaded and .137 in late inning pressure situations. Twenty of his 34 homers were with no runners on base. The worst thing about resigning him would be after paying all that money they will play him every day no matter bad he may perform.
Good stats. I like when people post and can back it up with data. Question: How much do you think it would help having Judge, Bellinger, Stanton, Jazz and now Goldy in the lineup around him? Goldy and Stanton probably not in same day. When Stanton gets injured (and we know he will) Yanks could DH Goldy with Bellinger in OF and Alonso at 1st Base. My thinking is with all the guys I mentioned around Alonso he would get better pitches to hit and more often. Thoughts?
There are three types of players in baseball. All stars who are so good that teams will throw them lavish contracts to win now regardless of how bad it’ll be when they age. Young players who are good and secure a bag for the years where they’re still good and everyone else who teams push around. Unfortunately for Pete he finds himself firmly in the everyone else camp being neither all that young or all that good
Mets fan here.. what irked me about Pete was all his HRs were empty. Meaning he hit a homer when we were already winning 8-1. His Milwaukee HR was the first time I ever saw him hit a go ahead HR past the 7th inning
Same as Judge and I’m a Yankee fan. His most meaningful homer he hit then proceeded to literally drop the ball and cost the team the game not just a series but the World Series
@@lacienziaI’m also a Yankees fan and agree with the above comment about Judge. He’s king of the 1st inning solo shot or the more useless homer when someone else already got them ahead. When they’re tied or down a few? Strikeout king.
@ how is it a meaningless starting the game with a lead? You can win many games 1-0 in baseball. You acting like games are not won in the first few innings all the time.
Alonso is probably looking for something like a 6 - 8 year contract and no one, unless they're stupid (Angels anyone), will give it to him. The most similar players at his age includes a who's who of first baseman who fell off a cliff after reaching 30. I'm guessing he'll sign late and get a 3 year contract with opt outs. Basically something along the lines of what Snell and Bellinger did last year.
I'm a Braves fan, but I always liked Alonso. He seems like a fun guy. He should go practice left field, get a new agent and come sign with Atlanta. Then he could get the Mets ownership back for not appreciating him. In all seriousness though, he's the type of guy who REALLY gets hurt by being a Boras client. He is a second tier player. Very very good, but not a top of the league guy like Judge, Harper, Ohtani, Acuña etc.. Problem is Boras treats guys like that like they are obvious first ballot HOF guys and wants that kind of money for them. Then they end up missing out on deals they should have taken and having to sign some under-value deal last minute, or worse they get what Boras wants, can't ever live up to their salary, are booed and considered a bust and it cuts their career short. I'd let Bad Bunny represent me before Scott Boras. Because I love baseball, I want to play baseball and enjoy it and not have my career, literally a once in a lifetime opportunity I will look back on as the highlight of my life til the day I die, ruined chasing an extra $5M on what is already a $250M deal.
@@ladistar I don't know if I agree that Soto is "better than Judge and Ohtani" but he definitely is a top tier player. I didn't list every single one because I figured people would get the point and I didn't want to trigger a debate about who should and shouldn't be on the list.
@@naturallawman2965 a 30 year old player who has only ever played 1B since he was a kid is not going to add a new position to his resume. He's built like a 1B, he will always be a 1B.
For the people saying you want him, the Mets offered to extend him for $158M over 7 years. He rejected it. I wouldn't even have offered him anything close to that. He thinks he's Juan Soto.
You don't think that was more bad advice by Scott Boras to reject the extension? How many Boras clients have taken extensions instead of letting themselves hit FA?
@@walker1984 None, I know of. It's a short list of teams that will take on mega contracts, and many of them don't have a fit for Alonso. There's no bidding war for him.
@@walker1984 The problem with that rationale is guys that are more likely to want to test free agency to get the most they can would probably want to sign with Boras.
I'm a huge Alonso fan. He's worked his butt off to improve his defensive skills. One thing that works against him is he hit 215 with runners on last year. 232 with runners in scoring position. He's the quintessential five hitter in most lineups. I don't know if that warrants what he's asking. I hope the Mets can work something out with him. His teammates love him and so do the fans but he's not in the top 25 in the MVP balloting.
He probably wouldnt sign as a DH. The Toronto lineup is absolutely pathetic. They could move Vlad to 3rd, let Alonso play 1st and get Joc Pederson to DH. I do not care about the fielding
A first baseman is involved in more plays than an outfielder. In 6 years and only 3607 plate appearance, Pistol Pete hit 25 more homeruns than Soto has hit in 7 years and 4088 plate appearances.
@ you are not paying Soto $500 million to walk. You are paying him because he is a threat. Great power. Great gap hole hitter. RBI threat. You are always paying him to prolong at bats. Take more pitches so his teammates can see. Give pitchers tough at bats which causes pitchers to have shorter stints on the mound.
@emiliothepoet Soto's a bum. He's a terrible outfielder. He doesn't have a super strong arm. He doesn't have an accurate arm. He's not a switch hitter. He's not a base stealer. He doesn't have speed on the pads. He doesn't have a high baseball IQ. He led the league in errors a few years ago. And the Mets will regret this signing eventually.
The problem with Alonso is he's a 1-trick pony. He hits homers. That's it. Can't field. Can't steal bases. Can't hit for average. He just hits homers and those 40 or 50 homers a year is almost all you get. Hollow power.
@@therealjaystone2344 Well... At least Max Muncy can play bad defense at a few different positions. Alonso can only play bad defense at 1 position. So there's that. I guess take it for what it's worth.
The thing with Alonso is Boris. Of Pete was okay with getting a 3 year 28-32 mil a year ish with a 4th year vesting option people would be all over him. The issue is that Boris is asking for that price but for 6-8 years, when Alonso’s power will probably start regressing in 2 years
Last year he batted .240 and the year before .215 with a sub .325 OBP. Just hasnt put it together the last 2 years in those categories even with the homers. Had he batted even .250 last year, me as a Yankees fan, would have felt much better about him.
The guy was clutch this postseason. He turned around a subpar year and was part of one of the most magical runs in the history of the Mets. I get first baseman are getting the short end of the stick this year, and you've got to try and posture and bargain if you're the front office. But if the Mets don't sign this guy they are making a mistake.
You don't overpay based off of a few games. He absolutely had a great few playoff games but it's such a tiny sample size it's not telling you how they'll perform in the future. Making a mistake is judging someone off of a tiny number of at bats and making 9 figure decisions based on that.
In 2024, Alonso's ground ball to fly ball ratio JUMPED compared to his past seasons. For a guy whose value only comes from the long ball, that kind of jump going into age 30 isn't good. Mets shouldn't sign Alonso to anything more than a 1 year deal. David Stearns is smart, and will not willingly take a player's decline if he can avoid it.
We mustve been watching different pete alonso then lol cause he was terrible from sept into playoffs aside from 1 clutch HR that yes saved our season but he was either K or weak contact
I think Pete Alonso (from what I’ve seen) is first and foremost an excellent human being, and he works his butt off. I’m not a Mets fan, but as a baseball fan I’d like him on my team. He hits homers, and plays his heart out, which is good enough for first base and has almost always been!
Power hitting with slightly above average fielding first basemen aren't that difficult to come by. Pete isn't a commodity anymore, like he was during his rookie season.
We really need a Power slugger after Soto , so if Soto get walk Pete can bring him home . And makes difficult to the pitchers to make the choice of pitch to Soto or Alonso , just like Soto and Judge. The lineup go Lindor , Nimmo , Soto , Alonso , McNeil Vientos , Bregman , Siri , Alvarez. That's good stuff 👍
Nobody is giving a 30 year old lumbering first baseman who strikes out one-fourth of the time and might walk into a home run once a week a lucrative, long-term contract.
Alonso's slow swing depends on luck or guessing what the pitcher is throwing. The problem is, most teams know how to pitch him and Alonso appears to make little or no adjustments. How many hitters get jammed on pitches that never are near the strike zone? Alonso seems to get busted inside where he swings and misses at pitches that almost hit or he pops up weakly to the right side. If this doesn't happen, he's wildly swinging at pitches that are way outside, or w/being fooled, he takes strikes on the outside corner. I would only want Alonso back if he is willing to make adjustments and/or swing mechanic changes. Alonso is so talented that he could re-tool his swing so that it would not be so wristy and slow through the strike zone.
I feel like Pete is a very underrated first baseman, everybody focuses on his power which they are 100% right but nobody really seems to realize how good of a first baseman he is
Ppl saying that Pete can't field is assinine, he is actually a very good field and makes great plays at 1st. And like he said in the video, also is extremely durable and you can rely on him to stay healthy. Would love to have him back on my Mets 💯
This is baseball dude, there is a stat for everything, you can find them in the MLB app menu: Statcast & Baseball Savant. Looking at Alonso, he's in bottom 3 % of 1B defensively. He's an awful fielder, objectively. It's not an opinion.
Aside from that, being a good fielding 1st basemen is plus. There's a reason why it's called the "cold corner" and teams typically put sluggers who can't field there (DH aside, currently). Teams have, and will, fielded terrible fielders at first who can rake. So, like you said, it's asinine to say the issue is Alonso can't field whether that's even true or not.
He's a below average defender by every metric. And as a Mets fan who watched the likes of Hernandez, Magadan, and Olerud man 1st base, as Pete's 6 foot 3 230lb frame gets old, his range is only gonna get worse. And he isnt a good enough hitter to just be a DH.
Scooping the ball is the most important skill a first baseman can have. Don’t get many hard hit balls going that way anyway. He’s a top tier first baseman on the defensive side
I think it's as simple as getting Boras-ed. How many 30 year old first basemen got signed to 9 year deals this offseason? Supposedly the Mets offered him 3 years, which is way more in-line with what first basemen his age are getting. And realistically, the Mets are the only big market team who might still want him. If he were smart, he'd push for a higher per year 3 year deal, with an opt out after 1 year. Otherwise, if the Mets are giving him a 6 or 7 year deal it's gonna be for like 20 million per year.
"Consistent & reliable" means that you don't watch the Mets games. Half the Homer's he hits are after blowouts. He also is a no-show at the plate months at a time. He's a good player, durable but he's not amazing.
As a Yankee fan having suffered through inconsistent play and constantly injured Rizzo, I can't believe the Yankees aren't going after Alonso. Yes the Yanks just signed Bellinger. But the chance to get Alonso for the next 6 or 7 years is a no brainer. He's only 30 years old. He is basically never injured. He plays almost every game. Solid in the field. He's good for 35-40 HR's and 90-100 RBI's. Plus he will have Judge, Bellinger, Jazz and Stanton (when healthy) in the lineup to protect him. Who did he have with the Mets? Lindor. That's it. What a joke. No comparison. Come on Hal and Cashman.... Let's get this done!!!
alonso and stanton in the same lineup sounds like a mess to deal with though. they both fill the exact same need in the lineup (power) without really adding any other tools whatsoever
@@strudel1347 So you're saying that another power bat in the lineup adding 35-40 HR's and 90 RBI's is a bad thing? Not sure I get that. Plus, as I mentioned, Alonso plays every day. Never gets hurt. As well as a solid defender at 1st Base. At 30 years old he's in his prime. Sorry Bro, I just can't agree with your assessment.
I like Pete, he has been great for the Mets, but this past season was a warning for his regression despite hitting 32 hrs. He should have taken the 7 year deal earlier in the year but he gambled on himself to do well and I don't think it worked well.
A team with a young first baseman needing a year as backup should offer Alonso a 1-year big contract so he can hit the market again next year and all their young guys can see and learn from a stud like Alonso.
If I were the Yankees I would offer him 6 years and 150 million...Insist it is a take it or leave it deal, in that there will not be any negotiations of Cohen trying to outbid the Yankees..He will better protected in the Yankee line-up and he does have tremendous opposite field power which will improve his swing allowing to put up even more impressive numbers.
He only benefited from winning the HomeRun Derby twice. He was never consistent and his stats that may seem decent was in garbage situations for the most part, never reliable in the clutch and NRVER able to carry his team like a real star. He always had the potential but never realized. He did have a couple excellent at bats on the playoffs this year which reminded his fans how good he could be. What killed him was in this era, he wasn't even good in his final year of his contract to get the big bag. He couldn't even give the big effort or take it to enrich himself. A few big moments in this years playoffs is too little otherwise he'd be totally dead in the water.
I didn't want him for the Cubs because he reminded me of Schwarber (with us) The home run guys are generally not clutch and so tend to be rally killers. He's slow too. And we have Busch.
You can expect a team to pony up for a guy that’s a career .260 he yes hits a lot of home runs but he’s never on base strikes out a lot I’m not a yankee fan either but I really think the Bronx Bombers need to take a long look at him. He’s a definite upgrade to their first basemen. 😂
.215 batting average with runners on base last year during a contract season. Also while he has been very healthy his entire career, he's a 30 year very big guy who likes to go all out on defense and base running even if he's not that good at either. He could very easily spend a big chunk of his 30's in the injury list or playing hurt with diminished production. That's a lot to ask for a long $25-30 million a year contract. I'm a Mets fan. I want Pete back and paid, but I also recognize his weakpoints and without the homegrown appeal, he's not worth the money to other teams. Pete Alonso is not to be the difference maker to get you a ring.
@@AGuyNamedMontag Alonso entered Game 3 against the Brewers in a 5-for-38 slump (.132 batting average) and hadn't homered in his last 49 at-bats. He was a combined 1-for-11 in the wild-card series before stepping up to the plate in the ninth inning and getting that homer. They never talk about the games he lost for the Mets killing rallies. Players slack off after getting these big lengthy contracts. If he signs a big deal the Mets will be forced to play him every day regardless of how he plays and that could cost him the season. I watched or listened to almost every game last summer and I am tired of hoping my clean up hitter gets a walk so he doesn't kill a rally with a double play.
@@AGuyNamedMontag And "Mr Clutch" went 2 for 12 in the last 3 games with LA with no RBI's and no homers and killed a couple of rallies when it mattered most.
What’s his OBP and SLUG with Runners on base? I don’t think BA paints the whole picture. I remember seeing something that Pete’s walk rate was the highest in his career in high leverage situations. However that was half way through the second half of the season. Just curious if you know those stats
As a Mets fan I appreciate what Pete has brought to the organization, he might be an average fielder, with below average speed, who can’t hit for contact but can mash, he brings a presence in the lineup where you know you can’t miss against him but he doesn’t scare you like a judge, that being said Alonso shot himself in the foot turning down the Mets 7 year extension worth 158 million, now I feel like all his offers he might have gotten have been under 6 years and around 20-25 million a season, the Mets I feel now have a set price on him and have the offer sitting there waiting for him when he realizes the best offer he will get is from the Mets
@ I agree that’s why he’s still waiting and the Mets aren’t offering that 7 for 158 anymore so he’s screwed outta that, if he signs anything I believe it will be around 5 years 125 million if it’s with the Mets, other teams I don’t think they want to go anywhere over 5 years with Pete
@@AGuyNamedMontag buddy google isn’t hard to use, they offered him 7 for 158 in 2023 he turned that down, and I just said I think the Mets are probably offering him 5 for 125 lol am I not typing in English?
I fully predict that it won't be until halfway into spring training, and then he'll finally concede to the Mets. With Boras as his agent, he's severely limiting teams that will be willing to pay his price tag.
The guy strikes out too much and hits for a very low batting average. He is also a poor defensive fielder. He is 30 years old and appears to be going downhill based on this past season being worse than his previous years.
He wasnt even top 100 in fWAR, #124 with 2.1. Hes a DH who cant run and strikes out a ton. Plus, hes not young. $15m year maybe worth it. You gotta look at WAR and hes not putting up much, HR totals can be misleading for player value. Elly De La Cruz similar OPS, but defense + speed = 3x fWAR
@coopstain1728 Judge struck out a TON too, it kinda doesn't matter when everything you hit is a missile. Alonso doesn't have the skill set to make up for the Ks, unfortunately for whoever signs him.
Mets fan here. I’ve missed very little of his career. His power is fearsome. About his 3 run homer which shocked the Brewers… almost any other right handed power hitter in the sport, and that ball is caught just in front of the fence. His defense is better than you think, too. Maybe a few too many errors, but he makes tough plays too. I really think that his age is the problem. He will probably perform more or less the same until he hits 35, so they should shoot for a 5 year deal, and I bet that’s the holdup between him and the Mets ownership. He’d probably be a good DH to have at 35 or 36.
I take exception to your point of consistency. Pete is WILDLY inconsistent. He’s streaky as hell and isn’t the most clutch guy in the lineup. I love Pete and would be fine with him coming back but he wants Freddy Freeman money and he’s just not that guy.
Michael Conforto is only two years older than Alonso and has the higher career fWAR , 19.8 - 17.3 with that translating to per 600 Plate Appearances MC - 3.017 PA - 2.88. Just wanted to point that out as I personally didn't realize how close they've been overall impact wise. To be fair to Alonso, though, he has certainly been the superior player since 2022, but that doesn't change the fact he is likely to age very poorly with almost all similar players to him becoming below average players by Alonso's current point in time - his 30th birthday was three weeks ago.
I would say the only teams paying insane contracts are the Yankees, Mets and Dodgers so if you weren’t signed with either, you’ll likely get a more of a team friendly contract with ops out years or 3-4 years.
I do think it’s crazy how nobody has jumped on the polar bear by now.. I agree completely with what fuzzy said about Pete not being very consistent but Pete is a natural power hitter and I’m no expert but the experts say that home runs are the best way for a teams success in todays game.
I wonder if Arizona would sign him since Christian Walker declined their qualifying offer. They're roughly the same quality of player but Alonso performs better in big moments.
I tend to believe that a lot of teams have their eye on Vlad Jr. next winter. The Mets I think are definitely a team that believes they could have him if they wanted him. So missing out on Alonso doesn't even sound that bad to many GMs
I'd give Alonso 20 mil a year for 3 years. Or 12 mil a year for 6 with no opt outs, and team options for the last 2 years with a 4 mil buy out and only if I had no decent first basemen in my farm system, which doesn't ever happen.
Feel like people are trying to be to smart and overthink it with Pete lol. He’s a good player who was more than likely pressing in his final year. Would be surprised to see him be closer to the .260+ average 40 homer guy next year
False information. It's the length of contract that he wants that's the problem. And he's asking for too much coming off a bad season. But they definitely want him
Consider Soto's contract after he reaches 30 years old and we have the Pete Alonso scenario. Would anyone is their right mind give Soto a 10 year 500M contract at age 30? The Mets essentially did.
Pete wants a long-term contract cuz he realizes that he cannot play well when he knows that a contract is looming in the near future. He had an off year this year and part of last year because of the contract situation. Lock them up and watch them turn back into the beat that we all know and love from a couple years ago!
He's a good player but wants a great contract. He was offered that 7/158, and that was a fair deal. He said no. He was looking to be paid like a Freeman, and he just isn't there. Maybe if he sees a 5/115 he should jump. Term can be an issue
This is Conforto all over again. Pete really should've taken the extension offer.
They are both trying to live off the stats they put up during the two "rabbit ball" seasons, when everyone was putting up monster stats.
Cumfarto didn't hit over 40 hrs a bunch of times
@@snappyone It's the same situation where a Mets player should've taken the extension(for their benefit) in hindsight.
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And the Mets were correct in letting Conforto go because Conforto was not the same player afterwards. He declined. Just like Alonso will decline. Which is why the Mets are better off getting a 1 year deal (be it Alonso or Santana or Goldschmidt) for a 1B, and going after Vlad Jr next winter. David Stearns correctly doesn't care for irrational fan sentiment. Stearns only cares about winning.
teams want Alonso. they just don't want to deal with borus and his insane player demands.
They would if you're someone they want badly (e.g. Soto). Pete just thinks of himself way more highly than anyone else. He's simply not that good. I'm not paying $30M/yr for what he brings. I'm not even paying $20M/yr for that.
@@boomshakalaka8567I think it has a lot more to do with Boras than Alonso. Boras tries to swindle big deals for average players. Alonso is better than any of his free agents from last year (except maybe Snell).
@@boomshakalaka8567 then you’re just not realistic paying him 20m. That’s just dumb you’d be an awful gm
@@drewv1747 Landing spots are dwindling! Lindor, Soto, Vientos, Alonso. I will take that!
@@97NikeSb Hope your team's as dumb as you then and pays him what he wants
Remember, some players have let their agent screw them over royally. Scott Boras has a history.
Yeah and as you see in the comments they treat it as if he's greedy when it's mostly Boras' bad advice that draws the dead market. Nobody wants to deal with Boras clients if they don't have to.
Met fan here and I like Pete. The problem is that he disappears for months at a time. He'll start chasing low and away breaking pitches and just can't stop chasing them. He doesn't get on base that much and is slow on the base paths. In the last 2 years his slash line is .229/.324/.480/.804 with 323 K's. With all that power he didn't even crack the .500 SLG mark. He is a solid defender though no matter what anyone says but overall is not worth the large contract he's seeking.
He also runs like an idiot
He's an awful defender, its not an opinion it's an objective fact. Look at Baseball Savant, he's -9 outs above average which ranks him in the bottom 3%, his arm is rated 2/100 and his sprint speed is 20/100
he absolutely is not a solid defender, thats just bias... everything else is agreeable
Even though he hit that game saving home run against the Brewers. He will be remembered as not catching that fly ball by the net in the play offs( which every other 1st baseman would catch) and in the same game, when he thew his bat down and he tripped over it running to first base. That blew my mind. Or that comical way he tries to out run a ball and got tagged many times, especially at home place. Where the outfielder just lollypopped it to home plate and still tagged Alonso out
He’s clutch in the playoffs. Not easy to find that. Look at Judge
Petes biggest mistake was hiring scott boras as his agent.
Totally
@@user-hh5rn4jz6o He’s not that good of a player…
@@TiagoGomez-hb9tehe’s no ohtani but he is very good
@@Goated_ChiefKeef Alonso only put up a 2-ish WAR last season. He isn't as good as his irrational fans make him out to be. He isn't so bad that he should be out of baseball either. His days of 40 bombs a year are likely behind him.
@@jasonmonahan4778He will hit 40 homers again. He bet on himself last year and he had an off year.
He's clutch??? What are you talking about? He batted .215 with runners on base. He batted .154 with the bases loaded and .137 in late inning pressure situations. Twenty of his 34 homers were with no runners on base. The worst thing about resigning him would be after paying all that money they will play him every day no matter bad he may perform.
Since he hit 53- he has pulled an Arenado, and Goldy, and went way down offensively.
and then he proceeded to hit probably his most clutch home run in the wild card to send the Mets to the NLDS..
Good stats. I like when people post and can back it up with data. Question: How much do you think it would help having Judge, Bellinger, Stanton, Jazz and now Goldy in the lineup around him? Goldy and Stanton probably not in same day. When Stanton gets injured (and we know he will) Yanks could DH Goldy with Bellinger in OF and Alonso at 1st Base. My thinking is with all the guys I mentioned around Alonso he would get better pitches to hit and more often. Thoughts?
@@slayermcrx7519and that doesn’t change anything.
Holy shit. Ive never actually heard Paul Goldschmidt speak. Lol.
Athletes should never speak.
His voice is like squidward but in more of a masculine tone
@@turkeybowlwinkle4440this might be the most cranky old man “back in my day”comment I have ever read holy shit
What an interesting way to describe it aha
Can't be as bad as Dave Stewart...
Alonzo is dave Kingman 😮😮😮😮
There are three types of players in baseball. All stars who are so good that teams will throw them lavish contracts to win now regardless of how bad it’ll be when they age. Young players who are good and secure a bag for the years where they’re still good and everyone else who teams push around. Unfortunately for Pete he finds himself firmly in the everyone else camp being neither all that young or all that good
This is the best take I have seen someone have on this situation.
Mets fan here.. what irked me about Pete was all his HRs were empty. Meaning he hit a homer when we were already winning 8-1. His Milwaukee HR was the first time I ever saw him hit a go ahead HR past the 7th inning
Same as Judge and I’m a Yankee fan. His most meaningful homer he hit then proceeded to literally drop the ball and cost the team the game not just a series but the World Series
@@armandogomez2677thats big Bs you using a game he messed up to say most of his Homeruns are meaningless is beyond ridiculous
@@lacienziaI’m also a Yankees fan and agree with the above comment about Judge. He’s king of the 1st inning solo shot or the more useless homer when someone else already got them ahead. When they’re tied or down a few? Strikeout king.
@@someoneyoudontknow7705I’m a Mets fan you can definitely say that about that BUM Alonso but I disagree about judge….
@ how is it a meaningless starting the game with a lead? You can win many games 1-0 in baseball. You acting like games are not won in the first few innings all the time.
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Alonso is probably looking for something like a 6 - 8 year contract and no one, unless they're stupid (Angels anyone), will give it to him. The most similar players at his age includes a who's who of first baseman who fell off a cliff after reaching 30. I'm guessing he'll sign late and get a 3 year contract with opt outs. Basically something along the lines of what Snell and Bellinger did last year.
He has "Chris Davis 2.0" written all over him
I'm a Braves fan, but I always liked Alonso. He seems like a fun guy. He should go practice left field, get a new agent and come sign with Atlanta. Then he could get the Mets ownership back for not appreciating him.
In all seriousness though, he's the type of guy who REALLY gets hurt by being a Boras client. He is a second tier player. Very very good, but not a top of the league guy like Judge, Harper, Ohtani, Acuña etc.. Problem is Boras treats guys like that like they are obvious first ballot HOF guys and wants that kind of money for them. Then they end up missing out on deals they should have taken and having to sign some under-value deal last minute, or worse they get what Boras wants, can't ever live up to their salary, are booed and considered a bust and it cuts their career short. I'd let Bad Bunny represent me before Scott Boras. Because I love baseball, I want to play baseball and enjoy it and not have my career, literally a once in a lifetime opportunity I will look back on as the highlight of my life til the day I die, ruined chasing an extra $5M on what is already a $250M deal.
I agree, Pete would have more suitors if he added 3B or corner OF utility to his resume.
Don’t forget Soto in the list of top tier players. He’s better than judge and ohtani.
@@ladistar I don't know if I agree that Soto is "better than Judge and Ohtani" but he definitely is a top tier player. I didn't list every single one because I figured people would get the point and I didn't want to trigger a debate about who should and shouldn't be on the list.
😂 you out your mind. Soto is not better than ohtani.@@ladistar
@@naturallawman2965 a 30 year old player who has only ever played 1B since he was a kid is not going to add a new position to his resume. He's built like a 1B, he will always be a 1B.
For the people saying you want him, the Mets offered to extend him for $158M over 7 years. He rejected it. I wouldn't even have offered him anything close to that. He thinks he's Juan Soto.
You don't think that was more bad advice by Scott Boras to reject the extension? How many Boras clients have taken extensions instead of letting themselves hit FA?
@@walker1984 None, I know of. It's a short list of teams that will take on mega contracts, and many of them don't have a fit for Alonso. There's no bidding war for him.
😂 Mets have issues giving soto that much over 15. Your statement is asinine.
@@walker1984 The problem with that rationale is guys that are more likely to want to test free agency to get the most they can would probably want to sign with Boras.
@@tillitsdone Chapman and Altuve off the top of my head did
Hilarious Goldschmidt take that ended up being 100% accurate 😂
I'm a huge Alonso fan. He's worked his butt off to improve his defensive skills. One thing that works against him is he hit 215 with runners on last year. 232 with runners in scoring position. He's the quintessential five hitter in most lineups. I don't know if that warrants what he's asking. I hope the Mets can work something out with him. His teammates love him and so do the fans but he's not in the top 25 in the MVP balloting.
He can come over to Toronto. Not as a 1B but as a DH. Our hitting sucks. We need bats… and a DH.
He probably wouldnt sign as a DH. The Toronto lineup is absolutely pathetic. They could move Vlad to 3rd, let Alonso play 1st and get Joc Pederson to DH. I do not care about the fielding
@@leam89they are not gonna move vlad to third because of how horrible he is over there. That’s why he’s a 1B now
@@thenatecrate8299 I know they won't. I'm saying that's what I would do because their choices are limited
Great id3a. Youre gonna lose Vladdy to us anyway. He wants to play with his childhood bud Soto.
@@marcoslaureano5562 wouldn't surprise me at all. Jays missed the boat on that one
A first baseman is involved in more plays than an outfielder. In 6 years and only 3607 plate appearance, Pistol Pete hit 25 more homeruns than Soto has hit in 7 years and 4088 plate appearances.
Yup but that’s also what Pete does. He’s won the home run derby a few times. But Pete can’t hit for average and strikes out waaay more than Soto does.
@emiliothepoet True, but paying $500 million more to watch Soto walk so much is ridiculous.
@ you are not paying Soto $500 million to walk. You are paying him because he is a threat. Great power. Great gap hole hitter. RBI threat. You are always paying him to prolong at bats. Take more pitches so his teammates can see. Give pitchers tough at bats which causes pitchers to have shorter stints on the mound.
@emiliothepoet Soto's a bum. He's a terrible outfielder. He doesn't have a super strong arm. He doesn't have an accurate arm. He's not a switch hitter. He's not a base stealer. He doesn't have speed on the pads. He doesn't have a high baseball IQ. He led the league in errors a few years ago. And the Mets will regret this signing eventually.
@@Reel-Justice ok this conversation is over Soto’s a bum? Wow! Who’s your favorite player? Pete Alonso?
The problem with Alonso is he's a 1-trick pony. He hits homers. That's it. Can't field. Can't steal bases. Can't hit for average. He just hits homers and those 40 or 50 homers a year is almost all you get. Hollow power.
So he’s like Max Muncy?
I have to agree. He can mash but that's about it.
hes not even THAT terrible of a fielder. rest of the stuff absolutely, and hes still not great at fielding.
@@therealjaystone2344Max munch gets on base though. He has a high OPS
@@therealjaystone2344 Well... At least Max Muncy can play bad defense at a few different positions. Alonso can only play bad defense at 1 position. So there's that. I guess take it for what it's worth.
I'm sorry but Pete's defense is not that bad
The thing with Alonso is Boris. Of Pete was okay with getting a 3 year 28-32 mil a year ish with a 4th year vesting option people would be all over him. The issue is that Boris is asking for that price but for 6-8 years, when Alonso’s power will probably start regressing in 2 years
your analysis of Seattle's willingness to spend money is spot on
LOL. Hilarious... Kind of sad that some of these teams are so cheap when they have the money to spend if they wanted to
The stupid part is that the mariners are something like the 13th most profitable team. And near the bottom in spending
Last year he batted .240 and the year before .215 with a sub .325 OBP. Just hasnt put it together the last 2 years in those categories even with the homers. Had he batted even .250 last year, me as a Yankees fan, would have felt much better about him.
Here before the obligatory Honeywell comment. Love Honeywell he’s the goat. Best Seinfeld look alike in the league
it's like seinfeld but epic, and hasn't dated a 17 year old yet
Love your take on Pete Alonso’s free agency
@@PaulCohen1834 ty
The guy was clutch this postseason. He turned around a subpar year and was part of one of the most magical runs in the history of the Mets.
I get first baseman are getting the short end of the stick this year, and you've got to try and posture and bargain if you're the front office.
But if the Mets don't sign this guy they are making a mistake.
You don't overpay based off of a few games. He absolutely had a great few playoff games but it's such a tiny sample size it's not telling you how they'll perform in the future.
Making a mistake is judging someone off of a tiny number of at bats and making 9 figure decisions based on that.
In 2024, Alonso's ground ball to fly ball ratio JUMPED compared to his past seasons. For a guy whose value only comes from the long ball, that kind of jump going into age 30 isn't good. Mets shouldn't sign Alonso to anything more than a 1 year deal. David Stearns is smart, and will not willingly take a player's decline if he can avoid it.
We mustve been watching different pete alonso then lol cause he was terrible from sept into playoffs aside from 1 clutch HR that yes saved our season but he was either K or weak contact
I think Pete Alonso (from what I’ve seen) is first and foremost an excellent human being, and he works his butt off. I’m not a Mets fan, but as a baseball fan I’d like him on my team. He hits homers, and plays his heart out, which is good enough for first base and has almost always been!
Playing hard is not a bonus from a player making 20-30 millions a year.
He should play hard and produce consistently.
Power hitting with slightly above average fielding first basemen aren't that difficult to come by. Pete isn't a commodity anymore, like he was during his rookie season.
He doesn’t know how to hit inside…
Been here since the “Freddie freeman throws shade” video, keep up the great work man 🔥🫡
We really need a Power slugger after Soto , so if Soto get walk Pete can bring him home . And makes difficult to the pitchers to make the choice of pitch to Soto or Alonso , just like Soto and Judge. The lineup go Lindor , Nimmo , Soto , Alonso , McNeil Vientos , Bregman , Siri , Alvarez. That's good stuff 👍
Hopefully Mets get Vladdy as a DH…
Why do I always look to see if I'm still subscribed 😂
Pete will sign a big contract. Hopefully, with the Mets.
Never thought I'd see the day where power = bad.
Another W video from Italk
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Nobody is giving a 30 year old lumbering first baseman who strikes out one-fourth of the time and might walk into a home run once a week a lucrative, long-term contract.
Does the name Ryan Howard mean anything anymore? Look what happened there.
Alonso's slow swing depends on luck or guessing what the pitcher is throwing. The problem is, most teams know how to pitch him and Alonso appears to make little or no adjustments. How many hitters get jammed on pitches that never are near the strike zone? Alonso seems to get busted inside where he swings and misses at pitches that almost hit or he pops up weakly to the right side. If this doesn't happen, he's wildly swinging at pitches that are way outside, or w/being fooled, he takes strikes on the outside corner. I would only want Alonso back if he is willing to make adjustments and/or swing mechanic changes. Alonso is so talented that he could re-tool his swing so that it would not be so wristy and slow through the strike zone.
I feel like Pete is a very underrated first baseman, everybody focuses on his power which they are 100% right but nobody really seems to realize how good of a first baseman he is
SS Lindor
RF Soto
1B Alonso
The Mets will resign Alonso to protect Soto in the batting order.
I go ahead and make that trade offered earlier Arenado to NY for Stroman. The Cardinals aren't going to get any pitcher better, unfortunately.
Ppl saying that Pete can't field is assinine, he is actually a very good field and makes great plays at 1st. And like he said in the video, also is extremely durable and you can rely on him to stay healthy. Would love to have him back on my Mets 💯
This is baseball dude, there is a stat for everything, you can find them in the MLB app menu: Statcast & Baseball Savant. Looking at Alonso, he's in bottom 3 % of 1B defensively. He's an awful fielder, objectively. It's not an opinion.
Aside from that, being a good fielding 1st basemen is plus. There's a reason why it's called the "cold corner" and teams typically put sluggers who can't field there (DH aside, currently). Teams have, and will, fielded terrible fielders at first who can rake. So, like you said, it's asinine to say the issue is Alonso can't field whether that's even true or not.
I doubt the scoops make up for his 3rd percentile defense.
He's a below average defender by every metric. And as a Mets fan who watched the likes of Hernandez, Magadan, and Olerud man 1st base, as Pete's 6 foot 3 230lb frame gets old, his range is only gonna get worse. And he isnt a good enough hitter to just be a DH.
Scooping the ball is the most important skill a first baseman can have. Don’t get many hard hit balls going that way anyway. He’s a top tier first baseman on the defensive side
I think it's as simple as getting Boras-ed. How many 30 year old first basemen got signed to 9 year deals this offseason? Supposedly the Mets offered him 3 years, which is way more in-line with what first basemen his age are getting. And realistically, the Mets are the only big market team who might still want him. If he were smart, he'd push for a higher per year 3 year deal, with an opt out after 1 year. Otherwise, if the Mets are giving him a 6 or 7 year deal it's gonna be for like 20 million per year.
"Consistent & reliable" means that you don't watch the Mets games. Half the Homer's he hits are after blowouts. He also is a no-show at the plate months at a time. He's a good player, durable but he's not amazing.
That's also because when the game is not winnable teams do not bring in
their best pitchers. So many of Pete's homers were hit off so so pitchers.
ALONSO WILL WIN ANY CONTENDER THE WORLD SERIES.
As a Yankee fan having suffered through inconsistent play and constantly injured Rizzo, I can't believe the Yankees aren't going after Alonso. Yes the Yanks just signed Bellinger. But the chance to get Alonso for the next 6 or 7 years is a no brainer. He's only 30 years old. He is basically never injured. He plays almost every game. Solid in the field. He's good for 35-40 HR's and 90-100 RBI's. Plus he will have Judge, Bellinger, Jazz and Stanton (when healthy) in the lineup to protect him. Who did he have with the Mets? Lindor. That's it. What a joke. No comparison. Come on Hal and Cashman.... Let's get this done!!!
He is not as one dimensional as people are painting him to be. Great post!
@MADGUNSMONSTER Yankees just signed Goldschmidt to a one-year deal. Doesn't really solve much long-term. But one year at a time I suppose
@@johnmoore6853 the long term is figured out for the Yankees. Ben rice will be your 1st baseman. Just not this season. At least not all year.
alonso and stanton in the same lineup sounds like a mess to deal with though. they both fill the exact same need in the lineup (power) without really adding any other tools whatsoever
@@strudel1347 So you're saying that another power bat in the lineup adding 35-40 HR's and 90 RBI's is a bad thing? Not sure I get that. Plus, as I mentioned, Alonso plays every day. Never gets hurt. As well as a solid defender at 1st Base. At 30 years old he's in his prime. Sorry Bro, I just can't agree with your assessment.
Well said
I like Pete, he has been great for the Mets, but this past season was a warning for his regression despite hitting 32 hrs. He should have taken the 7 year deal earlier in the year but he gambled on himself to do well and I don't think it worked well.
A team with a young first baseman needing a year as backup should offer Alonso a 1-year big contract so he can hit the market again next year and all their young guys can see and learn from a stud like Alonso.
Learn to fold like a cheap camera when the pressure is on.
I would like the mariners to sign him
The mets want Vladimir Guerrero jr next off season
lol no. Vientos is their 1B
@@Falcons8455 lol for now.
@@Xenlacasa45 Mets need to get Vladdy as Jr. ASAP…
@@Xenlacasa45 what do u mean? You trying to say Vientos isn't the future? He was their best player last year
@@Falcons8455 Vlad jr is way better he hit well over .300 vientos hit .260. come on
He did break Aaron Nola's string of 10 consecutive strikeouts by just getting a blooper off the end of the bat.
He should stay with the Mets because they are going win the World Series this season.
Not a chance 😂😂
Good joke.
Want to bet on it? $100 bet. Mets or the field and Ill take the field. Shake on it?
Mets going all the way 2025 LFG BABY
Dont do that thats like Dallas Cowboys fans swearing they good every year
One of the most reliable players in the league very underrated probably the most underrated
Alonso wants Aaron Judge money.
If I were the Yankees I would offer him 6 years and 150 million...Insist it is a take it or leave it deal, in that there will not be any negotiations of Cohen trying to outbid the Yankees..He will better protected in the Yankee line-up and he does have tremendous opposite field power which will improve his swing allowing to put up even more impressive numbers.
"a clean shaven white guy who you don't even know what his voice sounds like...that's a Yankee" 😅😅😅
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He only benefited from winning the HomeRun Derby twice. He was never consistent and his stats that may seem decent was in garbage situations for the most part, never reliable in the clutch and NRVER able to carry his team like a real star. He always had the potential but never realized. He did have a couple excellent at bats on the playoffs this year which reminded his fans how good he could be. What killed him was in this era, he wasn't even good in his final year of his contract to get the big bag. He couldn't even give the big effort or take it to enrich himself. A few big moments in this years playoffs is too little otherwise he'd be totally dead in the water.
I like Pete but he’s not that great offensively… also he bad balls too much and he has too many holes in his swing…
Career BA below .250 and he strikes out a ton. He's good, not great.
I didn't want him for the Cubs because he reminded me of Schwarber (with us) The home run guys are generally not clutch and so tend to be rally killers. He's slow too. And we have Busch.
I don't know why Hal hasn't gone out and signed Pete as cope revenge for Juan signing with the Mets
Yankees have no interest in Pete Alonso. They'll likely get Carlos santana or Paul Goldshmidt
Because it would make us look even worse after we lost Soto
You can expect a team to pony up for a guy that’s a career .260 he yes hits a lot of home runs but he’s never on base strikes out a lot I’m not a yankee fan either but I really think the Bronx Bombers need to take a long look at him. He’s a definite upgrade to their first basemen. 😂
.215 batting average with runners on base last year during a contract season. Also while he has been very healthy his entire career, he's a 30 year very big guy who likes to go all out on defense and base running even if he's not that good at either. He could very easily spend a big chunk of his 30's in the injury list or playing hurt with diminished production. That's a lot to ask for a long $25-30 million a year contract. I'm a Mets fan. I want Pete back and paid, but I also recognize his weakpoints and without the homegrown appeal, he's not worth the money to other teams. Pete Alonso is not to be the difference maker to get you a ring.
@@AGuyNamedMontag Pete Alonso still needs to get better as a hitter…
@@AGuyNamedMontag I don't want a guy with a .240 average playing 175 games.
@@AGuyNamedMontag Alonso entered Game 3 against the Brewers in a 5-for-38 slump (.132 batting average) and hadn't homered in his last 49 at-bats. He was a combined 1-for-11 in the wild-card series before stepping up to the plate in the ninth inning and getting that homer. They never talk about the games he lost for the Mets killing rallies. Players slack off after getting these big lengthy contracts. If he signs a big deal the Mets will be forced to play him every day regardless of how he plays and that could cost him the season. I watched or listened to almost every game last summer and I am tired of hoping my clean up hitter gets a walk so he doesn't kill a rally with a double play.
@@AGuyNamedMontag And "Mr Clutch" went 2 for 12 in the last 3 games with LA with no RBI's and no homers and killed a couple of rallies when it mattered most.
What’s his OBP and SLUG with Runners on base? I don’t think BA paints the whole picture. I remember seeing something that Pete’s walk rate was the highest in his career in high leverage situations. However that was half way through the second half of the season. Just curious if you know those stats
he should have took Mets offer because nobody gonna offer more
As a Mets fan I appreciate what Pete has brought to the organization, he might be an average fielder, with below average speed, who can’t hit for contact but can mash, he brings a presence in the lineup where you know you can’t miss against him but he doesn’t scare you like a judge, that being said Alonso shot himself in the foot turning down the Mets 7 year extension worth 158 million, now I feel like all his offers he might have gotten have been under 6 years and around 20-25 million a season, the Mets I feel now have a set price on him and have the offer sitting there waiting for him when he realizes the best offer he will get is from the Mets
There's no way he's getting over 160M now
@ I agree that’s why he’s still waiting and the Mets aren’t offering that 7 for 158 anymore so he’s screwed outta that, if he signs anything I believe it will be around 5 years 125 million if it’s with the Mets, other teams I don’t think they want to go anywhere over 5 years with Pete
@@AGuyNamedMontag buddy google isn’t hard to use, they offered him 7 for 158 in 2023 he turned that down, and I just said I think the Mets are probably offering him 5 for 125 lol am I not typing in English?
I fully predict that it won't be until halfway into spring training, and then he'll finally concede to the Mets. With Boras as his agent, he's severely limiting teams that will be willing to pay his price tag.
The guy strikes out too much and
hits for a very low batting average.
He is also a poor defensive fielder.
He is 30 years old and appears to be
going downhill based on this past season
being worse than his previous years.
So 20 points over league average is a "low batting average" now?
This isn't 20 years ago, the game has changed.
@snerdterguson for a guy with all that power, .480 slugging is pretty weak
@@snerdterguson Drop Pete and Sign Vladdy. Mets need to go “Win now” mode…
Get this man to the Astros. We need him
I want him. Hes a good man. Never ever did one thing wrong
Same here. I want him too. On the Mets. Forever.
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$22 million that's baseball minimum wage apparently
He wasnt even top 100 in fWAR, #124 with 2.1. Hes a DH who cant run and strikes out a ton. Plus, hes not young. $15m year maybe worth it. You gotta look at WAR and hes not putting up much, HR totals can be misleading for player value. Elly De La Cruz similar OPS, but defense + speed = 3x fWAR
LOL! Elly struck out more than any other player last year. He is the next Joey Gallo.
@coopstain1728 Judge struck out a TON too, it kinda doesn't matter when everything you hit is a missile. Alonso doesn't have the skill set to make up for the Ks, unfortunately for whoever signs him.
Mets fan here. I’ve missed very little of his career. His power is fearsome. About his 3 run homer which shocked the Brewers… almost any other right handed power hitter in the sport, and that ball is caught just in front of the fence. His defense is better than you think, too. Maybe a few too many errors, but he makes tough plays too. I really think that his age is the problem. He will probably perform more or less the same until he hits 35, so they should shoot for a 5 year deal, and I bet that’s the holdup between him and the Mets ownership. He’d probably be a good DH to have at 35 or 36.
He hit .217 in 2023 how is that 0.20 above league avg?
I can see him getting upset and firing Boras like Montgomery did when he gets signed for pennies on the dollar in March.
He's a future DH. Nobody needs that.
Scot boras about to show this video to teams trying to get a contract
You know who everybody wants Brent Honeywell Jr. for 13 years, 650 million dollars world series champion too
I hate myself
😂😂😂
I take exception to your point of consistency. Pete is WILDLY inconsistent. He’s streaky as hell and isn’t the most clutch guy in the lineup. I love Pete and would be fine with him coming back but he wants Freddy Freeman money and he’s just not that guy.
He needs to be a forever Met. Most beloved Met since Seaver. Yeah.
yanks will take good care of Pete
David Wright
@@mariohnycyeah but Pete LaFonso 😂
Piazza??? David Wright??? Existed????????????????
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@@jerz7657Mets will take care of Soto who was half of your team last year. Yanks are a joke.
Michael Conforto is only two years older than Alonso and has the higher career fWAR , 19.8 - 17.3 with that translating to per 600 Plate Appearances MC - 3.017 PA - 2.88. Just wanted to point that out as I personally didn't realize how close they've been overall impact wise. To be fair to Alonso, though, he has certainly been the superior player since 2022, but that doesn't change the fact he is likely to age very poorly with almost all similar players to him becoming below average players by Alonso's current point in time - his 30th birthday was three weeks ago.
I would say the only teams paying insane contracts are the Yankees, Mets and Dodgers so if you weren’t signed with either, you’ll likely get a more of a team friendly contract with ops out years or 3-4 years.
I want Algonso on the Giants
He is a better clutch hitter in big games than judge
And I’m a Yankee fan saying that I think the Yankees should get him
He’ll be a perfect player for the angels.
I do think it’s crazy how nobody has jumped on the polar bear by now.. I agree completely with what fuzzy said about Pete not being very consistent but Pete is a natural power hitter and I’m no expert but the experts say that home runs are the best way for a teams success in todays game.
Just seems like the kind of player who would be taken off the board fairly early yet here we are in December and still nothing
He makes a decent DH at this point. The moment he plays DH once, it will bruise his ego but also it should humble hit out.
He should go to the Rangers. Im not a fan but i think the Polar Bear in Arlington, TX meme would trend again if he goes
Scott Boras client who is asking WAY TOO much 😢
I wonder if Arizona would sign him since Christian Walker declined their qualifying offer. They're roughly the same quality of player but Alonso performs better in big moments.
‘I want more.’ After a certain point, it’s just ego. At a certain pay level, an extra $5 - $10M is just a number.
Chris Davis killed the slugger market
I tend to believe that a lot of teams have their eye on Vlad Jr. next winter. The Mets I think are definitely a team that believes they could have him if they wanted him. So missing out on Alonso doesn't even sound that bad to many GMs
Huge Pete Alonzo fan love to see him sign somewhere soon. Not Dodgers or Yankes preferably
Now that Christian Walker signed with the Astros, he’s the best first baseman available
As a Tigers fan I WANT HIM,I don't understand why my Tigers have not made him an offer yet, he is exactly what they need
Pete will definitely benefit with Soto in the lineup. Hoping the Mets sign him
I'd give Alonso 20 mil a year for 3 years. Or 12 mil a year for 6 with no opt outs, and team options for the last 2 years with a 4 mil buy out and only if I had no decent first basemen in my farm system, which doesn't ever happen.
Feel like people are trying to be to smart and overthink it with Pete lol. He’s a good player who was more than likely pressing in his final year. Would be surprised to see him be closer to the .260+ average 40 homer guy next year
False information. It's the length of contract that he wants that's the problem. And he's asking for too much coming off a bad season. But they definitely want him
I think it has a lot to do with the length of the contract he wants
Consider Soto's contract after he reaches 30 years old and we have the Pete Alonso scenario. Would anyone is their right mind give Soto a 10 year 500M contract at age 30? The Mets essentially did.
Pete wants a long-term contract cuz he realizes that he cannot play well when he knows that a contract is looming in the near future. He had an off year this year and part of last year because of the contract situation. Lock them up and watch them turn back into the beat that we all know and love from a couple years ago!
He's a good player but wants a great contract. He was offered that 7/158, and that was a fair deal. He said no. He was looking to be paid like a Freeman, and he just isn't there. Maybe if he sees a 5/115 he should jump. Term can be an issue