Did that a few times when I was a retail supervisor. I'd also make a brew before any meeting or appraisal with sales assistants. Most of the time they didn't realise it was meeting. I would always try to be positive, even if it was an advisory. Just 2 colleagues having a tea break and a chinwag ☺
Our standard _used to be_ GMT but is now UTC, which for all practical purposes is the exact same thing unless you are doing very complicated science stuff.
@@MeFreeBee UTC was developed to regulate clocks and time for the purposes of international communication, navigation, scientific research, and commerce. UTC is based on GMT but as the standard time, so far on the world stage it hasn't really taken off as the general standard. GMT is still regarded as the standard in the UK. GMT is still used by many in the international community and to set many devices with clocks. Though some devices doe use UTC. UTC does not recognise daylight saving (BST from the last Sunday in March to the last Sunday in October) which still exists, hence the UK can still be seen to have two standards - GMT and BST.
To arrive early is more rude than to arrive a little late, except for appointments when arriving 5 minutes early allows time to relax and shows respect.
Hiya. Many invitations will say "7 p.m. for 7.30 p.m." or "7.30 p.m. for 8 p.m.", so you have that 30 minutes leeway in which to arrive, settle in, maybe have a pre-dinner drink and a chat, but if you're NOT there at 7.30 p.m. or 8 p.m., be assured everybody else will be sitting down and eating already! Stay safe. All the best to you.
Its obvious she knows a fair bit about the UK, she's got a Palace shirt on - Palace, Pride of South London!!! Your buddy is welcome round here, smart Palace loving girl would fit right in!!!!!
love the channel so much so interesting to get your views on England/UK. I also love the Palace t shirt as a long suffering Palace fan of 36 years its always nice to see other fans so you can have a super thumbs up for that.
Turning up uninvited being a no no is definitely a southern thing,we turn up anytime at mates houses and walk in without even knocking but I'm from north east England
Wait, what?? Shelby is a Crystal Palace fan? Eeeeeeeeeeagles!!!!!! My home team - I could hear the roar of the crowd from the house in which I was born!
In Germqany it's actually considered good etiquette to show up about 15 minutes late. Reason being that the host is usually in a rush to get everything ready, and you rather give them a little bit extra time.
The thing with etiquette is it’s really about telling whether others share your same culture and/or class. Those in the higher or upper middle classes are likely to pay more attention to it, and regard working class as I’ll-mannered. If you look at Debrett’s Etiquette, you’re likely to be horrified at how prescriptive it is on how to behave. I don’t think Shelby should worry about it, after all she’s entitled to just be an American visitor, who doesn’t really need to fit in. On the question of turning up unannounced, it think it depends both on where you live in the UK and on your family/friendship dynamics. Somebody in say, Yorkshire, for example, might say to family and friends that their door is always open (and mean it). My grandmother, who came from Sunderland and spent all but the first 13 years living in London, would always welcome any family visitor who turned up unannounced. The biggest problem with visiting her was to get out of her house without being fed too much.
In the US, the church you refer to as the C of E is called the Episcipalian Church, and Washington National Cathedral is Anglican. Your 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th, 10th, 12th, 14th, 21st, 32nd, 38th, and 41st presidents were Anglican (Episcopalian), so were Alexander Hamilton, Walter Cronkite, Norman Rockwell, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, Henry James, John Steinbeck, Tennessee Williams, and today: Madaline Albright, Colin Powell, Mariah Carey, Tom Hanks, Michael Sheen, Kate Winslet, et al. Brits (and Canuks, etc) tend to arrive at house parties "fashionably late", about 15-30 min.
Don't worry so much on it. I own a flat next to Kensington High Street Station. In my years living part time in London I just pick things up along the way. To be honest, most of my education came over pints at the pub. Friends tend to tell you of your mistakes during those important "meetings". Cheers Shelby!
It’s not cultural and not really important but you mentioned for your livestream bst as British Standard Time, just for information, it is British Summer Time and the one we change it to & from is Greenwich Mean Time, ie standard time in the time zone. A cultural thing what you call fall we call Autumn. Really good video 👍
An open invitation is not an invitation. People will turn up to a specific invite but if they're told to turn up whenever they will never get around to it.
People can come round uninvited if they want but whether they find me home is another matter! 😂 I've always been an early bird and lateness drives me crazy.
Here's some trivia then, it's actually British Summer Time, not British Standard Time, even though we are in September it stays British 'Summer' Time until Greenwich mean time returns at the end of October.
I left at 15, some years back. I hate the smell of peanut butter. From what I have seen Americans use "Sir" far more than we do, "Sir" is rarely used here. That is funny but true, we use a question to make a request. Never noticed that before. Weather changes by the hour here. I am rarely late and I expect others not to be late. However, my daughters are always late, very late.
College is not a trade school, it is a bridge to university where you usually study three to four chosen subjects which will relate to the degree you are considering when you eventually attend university.
Being asked to dinner at seven often means "seven for seven thirty" or similar. In other words you can arrive any time after 7:00, so long as you are ready to eat by 7:30. You wouldn't turn up at 7:29 of course because you need time to take off your coat and shoes, hence 7:15.
Strange how we all seem to have different views on the subjects of punctuality and turning up unannounced. I wonder if they are often region- or family-specific views. In my family, we would much rather you were on time to an event than even 10 or 15 minutes late (we might have hot food ready for you!), and we often show up at each others' houses unannounced. Maybe it's because we're northerners!
Definitely I'm a northener and will be on time or a few minutes early and will pop round to peoples houses unannounced - Maybe you could do a North/South cultural divide video as I believe our two countries are opposite (UK - Northeners more friendly/Southeners richer - US Southeners friendlier/North richer) or am I wrong?
I'm a northerner and find my habits have changed over the years. I always like to be punctual but with today's traffic that can be difficult. As a young mum I would often pop in to see friends and family unannounced. But as I got older, moved further away and was busy with work, that seemed to stop. Then the family I could pop in on have gradually passed away and most of my friends and family live a distance away and people are busy with their own families and lives. Where I live the neighbours don't really mix so you get out of the habit. It would be lovely to have someone pop in, so long as they excuse the mess!
@@Lily_The_Pink972 Perhaps us northerners tended to have a less busy, or at least more local, way of life than southerners, hence we'd have more frequent contact with people in our community. I see that gradually changing as people across the country become more connected, at least digitally-speaking. It's a shame that a consequence of this for many people is actually feeling more isolated, but I suppose we have to live where we can afford to live and work where there is work. I hope you find a way to connect with family and friends again, and with people in your community.
Interesting answer on the question of inviting someone for coffee: Both Brits and Americans like to end things on a positive note, even though they are insincere. In continental Europe, it's the opposite: making a "date" for coffee is meant sincerely. BTW, love the videos!😊
Gift bringing to invites. We had visitors from head office in the US and they brought gifts when we invited them round for a BBQ - a wooden fruit boil and something else that I forget. It was really nice of them but not something we tend to do, if we do bring anything it is beer or wine but even then only if asked. Also the amount of times I am told ‘I’m really wanting a cup of tea’ we never say ‘make me a cup of tea’ it is so true that we ask for something with a question!
I have noticed a more relaxed and dare I say happier girl since going back to the US! It's good to see you hanging out with your friends and relaxing. Oh! and that was another good video! lol!
From 16-18 you have to be in (1) full time education, (2) apprenticeship or (3) working or volunteering at least 20 hours per week whilst in part time education or training.
That one about 'making a development plan' - I was all 'what the hell does that have to do with culture.' Just like the girls. But the operative words were 'I might suggest you consider...' - yeah, that's cultural, that's British.
A fun video, and congratulations on 9K! If you haven’t already subscribed, hit the button and help get Kalyn to 10K. When I did a US/UK teaching exchange (I was in Canterbury), enjoyed, but never got used to being addressed as “sir!” As others have said, many of the social Q’s have regional answers.
The majority of student in England do leave school at 16! Some might enroll into 6th form but end up leaving after a couple months , p.s just discovered your channel,, absolutely love it 😁❤❤
American college professors being addressed formally took be by surprise. But then again when I left high/ secondary school in the UK, everyone being on a first name basis definitely took me by surprise. Especially when not long after I ran into teachers from past schools now teaching there or studying for a new career. And in the latter case got immediately corrected about not having to call them Mr/ Miss/ Mrs anymore. The former case she was more of a support teacher/ TA then slightly changed career paths. Only had her first time round briefly and took me a while to realise who she was.
Never be early when going round to people's houses, but I hate being late so I might end up wandering the streets until I saw someone else knock on the door first...
The reason why we talk about the weather so much is because Britain is uniquely situated (longitude and latitude) where at least 5 competing jetstreams and tradewinds converge.. You literally can have 4 seasons in one day. .
The use of Ms I remember used in American culture much earlier than I ever saw it in the U.K. Partly comes from the US magazine Ms which started in1972, so it’s something I see as a Americanism. Bonfire night - was celebrated in parts of the USA but squashed by George Washington as it was seen as anti catholic and he was trying to make friends with French catholics in Canada ( someone else’s grasp of American history might be better than mine but I think that’s the gist).
Bit of British social history here. I left school (comp) and home aged 16 , albeit with 9 O'levels, because of dysfunctional family problems (working class with middle class ambitions) . I consider myself lucky to have left with a love of English lit - George Orwell and Dickens my favourite authors, this led to a hunger for self education. Given I have been self sufficient since that age, I was given no advice and had no idea i could go to University - I have worked since 17 in what became the IT industry and am now a senior consultant. I have had many graduates in my team and often have to correct their written work- and code !! LOL
I'm very punctual. I can normally time it so I arrive about one to two minutes before time. If I'm going to be late, due to traffic, or whatever, I will always phone to say I'll be late.
School - up to 16, then GCSE exams College/6th form - usually 2 years (to 18) then A-levels Uni - usually 3 years (18 to 21), although some courses can take longer or students can take a gap year/year out. Not compulsory. Ends with Degree Culture: Trains are NEVER on time!
Here in Germany 5 to 10 years ago Peanut Butter was not a common thing to find in the shops. It only really took on after Lidl started doing speciality weeks from different countries. When it was America week you would get Peanut Butter along side Burgers and such like. Now a days you can find it in all super markets and larger shops, but only 1 or 2 brands, its not that popular.
I think all the work related customs you talk about depend on different things. Going to the pub after work on Fridays is a large town or city thing and most common in office based jobs. You wouldn't see doctors, nurses, paramedics etc go to the pub; that would more likely be a prearranged get together. What employees call their bosses also varies according to the industry they're in. Some companies and organisations have a distinct 'us and them' culture where employees wouldn't dare use Christian names to their faces. As for punctuality for dinner, if the invite says 7pm, I would arrive between 6.55 and 7pm. The same if a table is booked at a restaurant. If it's a party where a buffet is to be served at some point, then the 15 minute late thing is OK. As a northerner, the midday meal is lunch, although as a child it was dinner. The evening meal is tea, never ever dinner. Going to a restaurant in the evening (anytime between 5pm and 8pm) is called going out for tea, a meal or to eat. Afternoon tea as you know is tea, sandwiches and cakes around 3pm and big treat.
We don't tend to call them professors here (I believe that it has a more specific meaning, like they've earnt it) - we usually say lecturers instead. Also, the law about school leaving changed a few years ago. You used to be able to just get a job (like in a shop) or do nothing at 16 if you wanted. Now you have to do something which could be 6th form, college, an apprenticeship or something similar that will help you into a career (but I think it has to be approved).
Genuinely when I have people coming over, even family members, and they are meant to be there at 7:00 but they get there at 6:59, everyone in my house starts freaking out, shouting to everybody “WHY ARE THEY HERE? THEY’RE EARLY!” 😂
Another good video. Larry helped you a lot with the quiz. I see that Shelby has more knowledge of the UK than she let on initially, as she is a Crystal Palace supporter, and the next video demonstrates her knowledge of the Premier League. It's definitely correct that the British use humour to defuse awkward situations. We treat light things seriously and serious things lightly, which can lead to cultural misunderstandings. "We should meet for a coffee soon" usually means 'we must not meet, do not contact me in any way and hopefully we shall never meet again as I only said that to end the awkward situation of having to talk to you'. On the topic of 'Sir' or first names in business, I think the business culture has become less formal in the last 40 or 50 years, probably due to US cultural and business influence. I believe that it used to be a lot more formal in the '70s and earlier. However, when I was at uni in the UK in the 80s, students and faculty still used formal terms of address. If you are invited to the pub after work, definitely go. The advantage of the weather as a topic of conversation is not only that it changes a lot, including during a single day, but it also offers an opportunity to moan about how inaccurate the forecast on the previous day was.
Just me being pedantic. It's British Summer Time. Not standard which of course as it's summer there's a Yellow rain warning for up to 30mm rain on Sunday.
With regards to hospitality at home, I think northerners are much more likely to just pop in unannounced. They wouldn't expect more than tea and a biscuit.
Funny story, my mum worked for an American company, IN THE UK, in accounts (many women, few men) the best job in the world with amazing friends and a great esprit de fun. The head of the team would be an American, changing every few years. The ladies loved the first few months of the new guy learning how not to speak American but learning the fact that we are not only separated by an ocean but also by a common language. So there is a meeting of accounts staff, team building, getting to know each other etc. The young 30 ish American man walks into the meeting full of life and happiness and looks at his team (25 women aged between 25 and 65) and says " RIGHT LADIES, LETS GET DOWN AND SHAG!" SHOCKED SILENCE! Then women falling off there chairs, howling with laughter, unable to breathe, unable to speak and explain to this poor man what happened for a few minutes. He was mortified when he realised what he had said and since then when speaking to them and seeing a raised eyebrow or hand covering there mouth, would just hang his head and mutter " I did it again didn't I " WHAT HE SAID IN AMERICAN " RIGHT LADIES, LET'S GET DOWN AND SHAG " meaning ladies let's hit this problem head and sort it out. WHAT THE BRITISH LADIES HEARD " RIGHT LADIES, GET NAKED AND LET ME BANG YOU ONE BY ONE " See Austin Powers clip, " let's shag baby "
I'm an ex military man from a military family and I loath being late, I'd want to be on time or a little early though I know civy street families do not have my view of timeliness.
If somebody asks "you alright?" Etc they probably don't want to know and are just saying hello. Similarly, it's bad form to answer the apparent question of "how do you do" , instead it's better to just repeat the phrase back to the person.
It always confuses me why this sometimes confuses Americans. Isn't "What's up?" a common greeting in the US? It's essentially has the same literal meaning and could lead to the same misunderstanding as "you alright?". Or maybe that's a UK thing again, "What's up?" possibly meaning "what's the matter?".
I think that perhaps Larry should be given a more prominent role in the next video, perhaps even a speaking part. Seeing him lying there in the background, I can tell that there is a star waiting patiently to be born!
I have some freinds that are super late constantly, definately if i plan something to start at 8 i expect some people to get there for around 9! Half an hour late is acceptable for sure at least if you dont need to go out or something
lol .. I was 15 when I left school. It was most common back then (the 70's) to leave school at 16. Obviously you could stay on at school, that meant you were 6th formers (High school used to be 5 compulsory years in the UK) We just wanted to go get a job back then as most of us knew we were never likely to go on University Challenge ! Might as well start living this thing called Life ! The government has raised the minimum age to 18 now unless you're Military bound or got a job to go to.
😂 what you are celebrating on bonfire night varies wildly depending on where you are in the country. The ambiguity of it has made it my favourite adopted holiday.
There's a private school in York called St Peter's where the pupils are not allowed to celebrate Bonfire Night because Guido Fawkes was an Old Boy - British school term for alumnus. At least this used to be the case - it may have changed.
Hi sorry to jump in with my comment but u started with Wales for your question, it's Scotland England Ireland Wales, u started at bottom to top where we start top to bottom, I left school at 17, u can leave at 16 at 4th year of high school or u can stay on untill 6th year where u r 18, but 16 leave age is mostly for dropouts or people who is not smart enough to stay on,
One thing that slightly annoys me is the way Americans use the word school to mean things you do after 18 years of age. In the UK school is only used for people 18 and younger. University and college are not described as school.
@@barriehull7076 A number of late C19 tertiary academic establishments were called schools e.g. LSE, British School at Athens, indicating a gathering of like-minded academics. We still use "school of thought" in a similar way. This echoes "ecole" in France which is often indicative of a post-18 high level academic institution. In UK universities "school" tends to indicate a single or group of related academic disciplines - in this context LSE, which is both a constituent part of the University of London and a semi-autonomous institution makes sense. I wouldn't say it annoys me but the US use of school does sound a bit odd to C21 UK ears.
As true about the pub. If you go to the pub with them, the first topic will be why those who turned it down couldn't make it. It is assumed that everyone would be there. It is almost like there is an expectation that you will be there and you need a good excuse not to be there.
Brit with some notes… 1.) The election question was a trick question… I said A 2.) Turning up unannounced is rude, as Emily said turning up late to a party/event late is not polite, but not unexpected… But! If you have agreed to meeting and it’s not a party/event… to be late is rude; you’ll normally end up there early to be safe. 3.) In college/uni it is rare to refer to a lecturer by their first name 4.) Pub Culture is British Culture… also “a pint” means more than one pint; I find it interesting you guys discussing that the first week you wouldn’t be invited, in my experience even as a newbie it is encouraged because you are new, it’s a way to socialise and make work friends… I guess more business is done in the pub. I think I would’ve failed this test as a Brit 😂
I called all of my lecturers by their first names at both unis I went to. I think some places insist on using titles (like Cambridge), but I don't think that's the norm.
Shelby gets 170 points for this quiz 🤣 Other things to know: bringing something for your host is polite (chocs, wine, flowers). Also, most importantly: do not make eye contact or small talk on public transport in London and the South East 🤣
The CofE is the established church ONLY in England as opposed to the whole of the UK. Scotland has the Church of Scotland which is a Presbyterian church rather than Anglican. Wales an NI don't have an established church.
Peanut butter, chicken and a little bit of pink salt, now that’s a god tier sandwich filling, with a nice pint of IPA and a side of pickles or chips, and go to the pub it’s the new church in England not of England, 😂
Working class kids used to leave school at 16 and get full-time jobs. The government then made it so that you cannot work full-time until 18 therefore encouraging (forcing) kids to consider staying in education longer.
It is absolutely correct to use Miss as your title, if you keep your birth name when you marry. Unfortunately many women do not realise this or even realise they do not have to change their name when they marry.
It's a matter of courtesy to contact someone to let them know you are visiting. I don't know anyone who would just drop in. No point as they may have a wasted journey if you're out.
The worst possible thing that you can do in visiting someone's house is to turn up earlier than the appointed time. On the business about the development plan, the most usual response would be to ignore the suggestion completely. Always accept invitations to the pub: if you offer to buy the first round, people will like you more. One of these invitations is NOT an invitation to a meal. It is pure hard drinking. Advice to Shelby: nobody in Britain likes working, and it is NOT a competition. Workers don't like their colleagues to work too hard, or be enthusiastic about the job, or be ambitious, so do not display any of these traits. Remember, employees have to do their job “reasonably competently” to avoid being fired, that is all.
Weather observations around the world (including surface, radar, and other observations) are always taken with respect to a standard time. By convention, the world's weather communities use a twenty four hour clock, similar to "military" time based on the 0° longitude meridian, also known as the Greenwich meridian. Prior to 1972, this time was called Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) but is now referred to as Coordinated Universal Time or Universal Time Coordinated (UTC). It is a coordinated time scale, maintained by the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures (BIPM). It is also known as "Z time" or "Zulu Time". The French, who else, allegedly, pressed for UTC rather than Coordinated Universal Time (CUT). Just like they insisted that Concord (the passenger plane) be spelt the French way Concorde. The Aérospatiale/BAC Concorde (/ˈkɒŋkɔːrd/) is a British-French turbojet-powered supersonic passenger airliner that was operated from 1976 until 2003. It had a maximum speed over twice the speed of sound, at Mach 2.04 (1,354 mph or 2,180 km/h at cruise altitude), with seating for 92 to 128 passengers. First flown in 1969, Concorde entered service in 1976 and operated for 27 years. It is one of only two supersonic transports to have been operated commercially; the other is the Soviet-built Tupolev Tu-144, which operated in the late 1970s.
No - the solution to the argument in the work place is to suggest we break for tea. Remember it is the answer to every problem, large or small.
Did that a few times when I was a retail supervisor. I'd also make a brew before any meeting or appraisal with sales assistants. Most of the time they didn't realise it was meeting. I would always try to be positive, even if it was an advisory.
Just 2 colleagues having a tea break and a chinwag ☺
Hi, for clarity, BST is not British Standard Time it is British Summer Time. Our standard time is GMT. :-)
Our standard _used to be_ GMT but is now UTC, which for all practical purposes is the exact same thing unless you are doing very complicated science stuff.
@@MeFreeBee UTC was developed to regulate clocks and time for the purposes of international communication, navigation, scientific research, and commerce.
UTC is based on GMT but as the standard time, so far on the world stage it hasn't really taken off as the general standard.
GMT is still regarded as the standard in the UK. GMT is still used by many in the international community and to set many devices with clocks. Though some devices doe use UTC.
UTC does not recognise daylight saving (BST from the last Sunday in March to the last Sunday in October) which still exists, hence the UK can still be seen to have two standards - GMT and BST.
To arrive early is more rude than to arrive a little late, except for appointments when arriving 5 minutes early allows time to relax and shows respect.
Hiya. Many invitations will say "7 p.m. for 7.30 p.m." or "7.30 p.m. for 8 p.m.", so you have that 30 minutes leeway in which to arrive, settle in, maybe have a pre-dinner drink and a chat, but if you're NOT there at 7.30 p.m. or 8 p.m., be assured everybody else will be sitting down and eating already! Stay safe. All the best to you.
One fun one. Talking about the pub on the first Friday. In my experience it has been heading to the pub on lunchtime of the first day 😁🇬🇧
Its obvious she knows a fair bit about the UK, she's got a Palace shirt on - Palace, Pride of South London!!! Your buddy is welcome round here, smart Palace loving girl would fit right in!!!!!
You'll hear more about her love of Crystal Palace in our next video together, too, so look out for that!
Great video! Shelby would be very welcome here in the UK, we are actually quite forgiving, especially of people who want to learn more about us.
UK doesn’t have standard time… we are still in BST. (British Summer Time). Later in Oct we move into GMT (Greenwich Mean Time).
love the channel so much so interesting to get your views on England/UK. I also love the Palace t shirt as a long suffering Palace fan of 36 years its always nice to see other fans so you can have a super thumbs up for that.
Wow so excited to see your mate with crystal palace shirt ....love it ....my team & where I grew up FANTASTIC !!!!....IM PALACE TIL I DIE
I don’t think you can leave education now at 16, you have to do some kind of education until you’re 18. It’s a fairly recent change.
You can leave school at 16 but you either have to do an apprenticeship/ training or go to college.
@@cosimodemedici1530 Yeah I sort of meant that.
You can also leave school at 16 if you have a full time job to go to.
As per usual, that only applies to England
@@vickytaylor9155 Only if it includes a substantial education/training element. You can't just work in Tescos on the checkout.
Every so often the dog raised its head thought "there still talking" and put its head down again.
Turning up uninvited being a no no is definitely a southern thing,we turn up anytime at mates houses and walk in without even knocking but I'm from north east England
Wait, what?? Shelby is a Crystal Palace fan? Eeeeeeeeeeagles!!!!!! My home team - I could hear the roar of the crowd from the house in which I was born!
Hey! It’s not we say, it’s the tone we say it. Lovely video guys!
In Germqany it's actually considered good etiquette to show up about 15 minutes late. Reason being that the host is usually in a rush to get everything ready, and you rather give them a little bit extra time.
The thing with etiquette is it’s really about telling whether others share your same culture and/or class. Those in the higher or upper middle classes are likely to pay more attention to it, and regard working class as I’ll-mannered. If you look at Debrett’s Etiquette, you’re likely to be horrified at how prescriptive it is on how to behave. I don’t think Shelby should worry about it, after all she’s entitled to just be an American visitor, who doesn’t really need to fit in.
On the question of turning up unannounced, it think it depends both on where you live in the UK and on your family/friendship dynamics. Somebody in say, Yorkshire, for example, might say to family and friends that their door is always open (and mean it). My grandmother, who came from Sunderland and spent all but the first 13 years living in London, would always welcome any family visitor who turned up unannounced. The biggest problem with visiting her was to get out of her house without being fed too much.
In the US, the church you refer to as the C of E is called the Episcipalian Church, and Washington National Cathedral is Anglican. Your 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th, 10th, 12th, 14th, 21st, 32nd, 38th, and 41st presidents were Anglican (Episcopalian), so were Alexander Hamilton, Walter Cronkite, Norman Rockwell, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, Henry James, John Steinbeck, Tennessee Williams, and today: Madaline Albright, Colin Powell, Mariah Carey, Tom Hanks, Michael Sheen, Kate Winslet, et al. Brits (and Canuks, etc) tend to arrive at house parties "fashionably late", about 15-30 min.
The main church in Scotland is Presbyterian. Episcopalian is a minority.
@@christinesimm5251 I agree, but what has that to do with what I wrote?
There’s a dog in the video, you have the majority of us Brits loving it
Don't worry so much on it. I own a flat next to Kensington High Street Station. In my years living part time in London I just pick things up along the way. To be honest, most of my education came over pints at the pub. Friends tend to tell you of your mistakes during those important "meetings". Cheers Shelby!
It’s not cultural and not really important but you mentioned for your livestream bst as British Standard Time, just for information, it is British Summer Time and the one we change it to & from is Greenwich Mean Time, ie standard time in the time zone. A cultural thing what you call fall we call Autumn. Really good video 👍
An open invitation is not an invitation. People will turn up to a specific invite but if they're told to turn up whenever they will never get around to it.
People can come round uninvited if they want but whether they find me home is another matter! 😂 I've always been an early bird and lateness drives me crazy.
Important cultural behaviour, the rounds system in pubs. Get it right to be liked.
Here's some trivia then, it's actually British Summer Time, not British Standard Time, even though we are in September it stays British 'Summer' Time until Greenwich mean time returns at the end of October.
I left at 15, some years back. I hate the smell of peanut butter. From what I have seen Americans use "Sir" far more than we do, "Sir" is rarely used here. That is funny but true, we use a question to make a request. Never noticed that before. Weather changes by the hour here. I am rarely late and I expect others not to be late. However, my daughters are always late, very late.
College is not a trade school, it is a bridge to university where you usually study three to four chosen subjects which will relate to the degree you are considering when you eventually attend university.
Being asked to dinner at seven often means "seven for seven thirty" or similar. In other words you can arrive any time after 7:00, so long as you are ready to eat by 7:30. You wouldn't turn up at 7:29 of course because you need time to take off your coat and shoes, hence 7:15.
Strange how we all seem to have different views on the subjects of punctuality and turning up unannounced. I wonder if they are often region- or family-specific views. In my family, we would much rather you were on time to an event than even 10 or 15 minutes late (we might have hot food ready for you!), and we often show up at each others' houses unannounced. Maybe it's because we're northerners!
Was going to say something similar... it's deffo a northern thing to just show up uninvited.
Definitely I'm a northener and will be on time or a few minutes early and will pop round to peoples houses unannounced - Maybe you could do a North/South cultural divide video as I believe our two countries are opposite (UK - Northeners more friendly/Southeners richer - US Southeners friendlier/North richer) or am I wrong?
I’m a northerner (very north) and I would be very pissed off. Saying that my siblings in laws just show up when ever they want.
I'm a northerner and find my habits have changed over the years. I always like to be punctual but with today's traffic that can be difficult.
As a young mum I would often pop in to see friends and family unannounced. But as I got older, moved further away and was busy with work, that seemed to stop. Then the family I could pop in on have gradually passed away and most of my friends and family live a distance away and people are busy with their own families and lives. Where I live the neighbours don't really mix so you get out of the habit. It would be lovely to have someone pop in, so long as they excuse the mess!
@@Lily_The_Pink972 Perhaps us northerners tended to have a less busy, or at least more local, way of life than southerners, hence we'd have more frequent contact with people in our community. I see that gradually changing as people across the country become more connected, at least digitally-speaking. It's a shame that a consequence of this for many people is actually feeling more isolated, but I suppose we have to live where we can afford to live and work where there is work. I hope you find a way to connect with family and friends again, and with people in your community.
Interesting answer on the question of inviting someone for coffee: Both Brits and Americans like to end things on a positive note, even though they are insincere. In continental Europe, it's the opposite: making a "date" for coffee is meant sincerely. BTW, love the videos!😊
Gift bringing to invites. We had visitors from head office in the US and they brought gifts when we invited them round for a BBQ - a wooden fruit boil and something else that I forget. It was really nice of them but not something we tend to do, if we do bring anything it is beer or wine but even then only if asked. Also the amount of times I am told ‘I’m really wanting a cup of tea’ we never say ‘make me a cup of tea’ it is so true that we ask for something with a question!
Larry needs his own RUclips channel❤️
I have noticed a more relaxed and dare I say happier girl since going back to the US! It's good to see you hanging out with your friends and relaxing. Oh! and that was another good video! lol!
Depends on what part of Britain u go to as it varies across the country keep up the good work catch u on the next vid
From 16-18 you have to be in (1) full time education, (2) apprenticeship or (3) working or volunteering at least 20 hours per week whilst in part time education or training.
That one about 'making a development plan' - I was all 'what the hell does that have to do with culture.' Just like the girls. But the operative words were 'I might suggest you consider...' - yeah, that's cultural, that's British.
A fun video, and congratulations on 9K! If you haven’t already subscribed, hit the button and help get Kalyn to 10K. When I did a US/UK teaching exchange (I was in Canterbury), enjoyed, but never got used to being addressed as “sir!” As others have said, many of the social Q’s have regional answers.
Yeah, school teachers are commonly referred to as Sir or Miss, but first names in College or University.
I've noticed in American movies that sons will often address their dads as "sir".
The majority of student in England do leave school at 16! Some might enroll into 6th form but end up leaving after a couple months , p.s just discovered your channel,, absolutely love it 😁❤❤
It’s 18 now in the UK. Or you can do a vocational course from sixteen until your 18
American college professors being addressed formally took be by surprise. But then again when I left high/ secondary school in the UK, everyone being on a first name basis definitely took me by surprise. Especially when not long after I ran into teachers from past schools now teaching there or studying for a new career. And in the latter case got immediately corrected about not having to call them Mr/ Miss/ Mrs anymore.
The former case she was more of a support teacher/ TA then slightly changed career paths. Only had her first time round briefly and took me a while to realise who she was.
Don't Know Who Guy Fox is but it was "Guy Fawkes" who was involved in the failed Gunpowder Plot that is celebrated on the 5th of November
I am British and I love crunchy peanut butter and have eaten it since I was six
Never be early when going round to people's houses, but I hate being late so I might end up wandering the streets until I saw someone else knock on the door first...
The reason why we talk about the weather so much is because Britain is uniquely situated (longitude and latitude) where at least 5 competing jetstreams and tradewinds converge.. You literally can have 4 seasons in one day. .
The use of Ms I remember used in American culture much earlier than I ever saw it in the U.K. Partly comes from the US magazine Ms which started in1972, so it’s something I see as a Americanism.
Bonfire night - was celebrated in parts of the USA but squashed by George Washington as it was seen as anti catholic and he was trying to make friends with French catholics in Canada ( someone else’s grasp of American history might be better than mine but I think that’s the gist).
So right about the time issue. This is why I always tell my friends they need to be there 15/20 minutes before I actually need them to be there 😄
Love the Palace shirt
Tip for trip to the UK: learn to say "sorry". It's used everywhere, even when not called for.
Glad to see your friends a football/soccer fan, your welcome to Swansea
I was at a university in Scotland - one of the Oldest - and I'd never have dreamed of using a Professor's/Doctor's first name.
Bit of British social history here. I left school (comp) and home aged 16 , albeit with 9 O'levels, because of dysfunctional family problems (working class with middle class ambitions) . I consider myself lucky to have left with a love of English lit - George Orwell and Dickens my favourite authors, this led to a hunger for self education. Given I have been self sufficient since that age, I was given no advice and had no idea i could go to University - I have worked since 17 in what became the IT industry and am now a senior consultant. I have had many graduates in my team and often have to correct their written work- and code !! LOL
I'm very punctual. I can normally time it so I arrive about one to two minutes before time. If I'm going to be late, due to traffic, or whatever, I will always phone to say I'll be late.
School - up to 16, then GCSE exams
College/6th form - usually 2 years (to 18) then A-levels
Uni - usually 3 years (18 to 21), although some courses can take longer or students can take a gap year/year out. Not compulsory. Ends with Degree
Culture: Trains are NEVER on time!
Here in Germany 5 to 10 years ago Peanut Butter was not a common thing to find in the shops. It only really took on after Lidl started doing speciality weeks from different countries. When it was America week you would get Peanut Butter along side Burgers and such like. Now a days you can find it in all super markets and larger shops, but only 1 or 2 brands, its not that popular.
I think all the work related customs you talk about depend on different things. Going to the pub after work on Fridays is a large town or city thing and most common in office based jobs. You wouldn't see doctors, nurses, paramedics etc go to the pub; that would more likely be a prearranged get together.
What employees call their bosses also varies according to the industry they're in. Some companies and organisations have a distinct 'us and them' culture where employees wouldn't dare use Christian names to their faces.
As for punctuality for dinner, if the invite says 7pm, I would arrive between 6.55 and 7pm. The same if a table is booked at a restaurant. If it's a party where a buffet is to be served at some point, then the 15 minute late thing is OK.
As a northerner, the midday meal is lunch, although as a child it was dinner. The evening meal is tea, never ever dinner. Going to a restaurant in the evening (anytime between 5pm and 8pm) is called going out for tea, a meal or to eat. Afternoon tea as you know is tea, sandwiches and cakes around 3pm and big treat.
We don't tend to call them professors here (I believe that it has a more specific meaning, like they've earnt it) - we usually say lecturers instead.
Also, the law about school leaving changed a few years ago. You used to be able to just get a job (like in a shop) or do nothing at 16 if you wanted. Now you have to do something which could be 6th form, college, an apprenticeship or something similar that will help you into a career (but I think it has to be approved).
Genuinely when I have people coming over, even family members, and they are meant to be there at 7:00 but they get there at 6:59, everyone in my house starts freaking out, shouting to everybody “WHY ARE THEY HERE? THEY’RE EARLY!” 😂
Another good video. Larry helped you a lot with the quiz. I see that Shelby has more knowledge of the UK than she let on initially, as she is a Crystal Palace supporter, and the next video demonstrates her knowledge of the Premier League. It's definitely correct that the British use humour to defuse awkward situations. We treat light things seriously and serious things lightly, which can lead to cultural misunderstandings. "We should meet for a coffee soon" usually means 'we must not meet, do not contact me in any way and hopefully we shall never meet again as I only said that to end the awkward situation of having to talk to you'. On the topic of 'Sir' or first names in business, I think the business culture has become less formal in the last 40 or 50 years, probably due to US cultural and business influence. I believe that it used to be a lot more formal in the '70s and earlier. However, when I was at uni in the UK in the 80s, students and faculty still used formal terms of address. If you are invited to the pub after work, definitely go. The advantage of the weather as a topic of conversation is not only that it changes a lot, including during a single day, but it also offers an opportunity to moan about how inaccurate the forecast on the previous day was.
Not sure we must do this again is uniquely British didn't Meghan Markle do something similar to Piers Morgan 🤔
Just me being pedantic. It's British Summer Time. Not standard which of course as it's summer there's a Yellow rain warning for up to 30mm rain on Sunday.
Not quite an inch and a quarter then. Yanks don't do millimetres, and neither do I, and I write the standards on such things 😯😄
With regards to hospitality at home, I think northerners are much more likely to just pop in unannounced. They wouldn't expect more than tea and a biscuit.
Love the Palace Tee shirt, Come on you Eagles
i left school at 15 as i I was the youngest in the class would have been over 16 when school went back after summer holidays
Same as me
Left school 4,5,93
Turned 16 in July
@@IANNEIL77 for me it was after exams in Jun July. so July 75
A funny thing about Peanut Butter - I can't stand smooth but love crunchy!
Funny story, my mum worked for an American company, IN THE UK, in accounts (many women, few men) the best job in the world with amazing friends and a great esprit de fun.
The head of the team would be an American, changing every few years. The ladies loved the first few months of the new guy learning how not to speak American but learning the fact that we are not only separated by an ocean but also by a common language.
So there is a meeting of accounts staff, team building, getting to know each other etc. The young 30 ish American man walks into the meeting full of life and happiness and looks at his team (25 women aged between 25 and 65) and says " RIGHT LADIES, LETS GET DOWN AND SHAG!"
SHOCKED SILENCE!
Then women falling off there chairs, howling with laughter, unable to breathe, unable to speak and explain to this poor man what happened for a few minutes. He was mortified when he realised what he had said and since then when speaking to them and seeing a raised eyebrow or hand covering there mouth, would just hang his head and mutter " I did it again didn't I "
WHAT HE SAID IN AMERICAN " RIGHT LADIES, LET'S GET DOWN AND SHAG " meaning ladies let's hit this problem head and sort it out.
WHAT THE BRITISH LADIES HEARD " RIGHT LADIES, GET NAKED AND LET ME BANG YOU ONE BY ONE "
See Austin Powers clip, " let's shag baby "
I'm an ex military man from a military family and I loath being late, I'd want to be on time or a little early though I know civy street families do not have my view of timeliness.
School leaving age changed a few years ago kids have to be in education (which includes vocational training) until 18
They can just leave and get a job or do a trade apprenticeships
@@cosimodemedici1530 Because they are under 18, the job has to contain a minimum number of hours of training per week. But often doesn't.
If somebody asks "you alright?" Etc they probably don't want to know and are just saying hello. Similarly, it's bad form to answer the apparent question of "how do you do" , instead it's better to just repeat the phrase back to the person.
It always confuses me why this sometimes confuses Americans. Isn't "What's up?" a common greeting in the US? It's essentially has the same literal meaning and could lead to the same misunderstanding as "you alright?". Or maybe that's a UK thing again, "What's up?" possibly meaning "what's the matter?".
I'm from Essex. "All-ite" is a greeting. "Are you alright?" Is a question.
@@jamesmason3348 "hi" is the most common greeting. "What's up" is mostly used by young people. It's an ice breaker question and not "deep."
Never say no to the pub! lol
I think that perhaps Larry should be given a more prominent role in the next video, perhaps even a speaking part. Seeing him lying there in the background, I can tell that there is a star waiting patiently to be born!
I have some freinds that are super late constantly, definately if i plan something to start at 8 i expect some people to get there for around 9! Half an hour late is acceptable for sure at least if you dont need to go out or something
lol .. I was 15 when I left school. It was most common back then (the 70's) to leave school at 16.
Obviously you could stay on at school, that meant you were 6th formers (High school used to be 5 compulsory years in the UK)
We just wanted to go get a job back then as most of us knew we were never likely to go on University Challenge !
Might as well start living this thing called Life !
The government has raised the minimum age to 18 now unless you're Military bound or got a job to go to.
Sounds to me like Shelby, might want to consider moving over here.
😂 what you are celebrating on bonfire night varies wildly depending on where you are in the country. The ambiguity of it has made it my favourite adopted holiday.
I've known it really wind the Catholics up because they think Guy Fawkes was framed! Good to know traditional tribal hatreds are still preserved....
@@davidjones332 Especially in Lewes where they burn the Pope every year!
There's a private school in York called St Peter's where the pupils are not allowed to celebrate Bonfire Night because Guido Fawkes was an Old Boy - British school term for alumnus. At least this used to be the case - it may have changed.
Hi sorry to jump in with my comment but u started with Wales for your question, it's Scotland England Ireland Wales, u started at bottom to top where we start top to bottom, I left school at 17, u can leave at 16 at 4th year of high school or u can stay on untill 6th year where u r 18, but 16 leave age is mostly for dropouts or people who is not smart enough to stay on,
I prefer the straight meaning type question to the scenarios lol
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One thing that slightly annoys me is the way Americans use the word school to mean things you do after 18 years of age. In the UK school is only used for people 18 and younger. University and college are not described as school.
London School of Economics. LSE. Does that fit your comment?
@@barriehull7076 A number of late C19 tertiary academic establishments were called schools e.g. LSE, British School at Athens, indicating a gathering of like-minded academics. We still use "school of thought" in a similar way. This echoes "ecole" in France which is often indicative of a post-18 high level academic institution. In UK universities "school" tends to indicate a single or group of related academic disciplines - in this context LSE, which is both a constituent part of the University of London and a semi-autonomous institution makes sense. I wouldn't say it annoys me but the US use of school does sound a bit odd to C21 UK ears.
Film school, 18+, offers degrees.
As true about the pub. If you go to the pub with them, the first topic will be why those who turned it down couldn't make it. It is assumed that everyone would be there. It is almost like there is an expectation that you will be there and you need a good excuse not to be there.
Wait. U are wearing a Crystal Palace shirt. That’s random in the U.K. 😂🏴👍
Not for a place fan lol
Haha, it's her team! She explains why in the upcoming football video!
@@GirlGoneLondonofficial ......Shelby.......Crystal Palace.....Really!!
I feel for her. Just 7 miles out from supporting the biggest little club in the world.
Brit with some notes…
1.) The election question was a trick question… I said A
2.) Turning up unannounced is rude, as Emily said turning up late to a party/event late is not polite, but not unexpected… But! If you have agreed to meeting and it’s not a party/event… to be late is rude; you’ll normally end up there early to be safe.
3.) In college/uni it is rare to refer to a lecturer by their first name
4.) Pub Culture is British Culture… also “a pint” means more than one pint; I find it interesting you guys discussing that the first week you wouldn’t be invited, in my experience even as a newbie it is encouraged because you are new, it’s a way to socialise and make work friends… I guess more business is done in the pub.
I think I would’ve failed this test as a Brit 😂
I called all of my lecturers by their first names at both unis I went to. I think some places insist on using titles (like Cambridge), but I don't think that's the norm.
great video, well done, you have been assimilated!!
So Shelby is a Palace fan interesting choice.
Shelby gets 170 points for this quiz 🤣
Other things to know: bringing something for your host is polite (chocs, wine, flowers). Also, most importantly: do not make eye contact or small talk on public transport in London and the South East 🤣
Never ever called anyone a co-worker ( sounds like a American thing) but have never worked in an office environment, it's always a WORKMATE. 🇬🇧👍
I think it might be workmate in a non-office environment and colleague in an office.
Workmate or colleague (more formally).
The CofE is the established church ONLY in England as opposed to the whole of the UK. Scotland has the Church of Scotland which is a Presbyterian church rather than Anglican. Wales an NI don't have an established church.
What is the difference between a Presbyteryn and Anglican.?
Thanks.
@@gingerbaker4390 There's quite a few but the main one is that Anglican Church is an apostolic church whilst the Presbyterian church is not.
@@stuarttaylor1799 OK. I didn't really understand the answer but I'll go onto google and look. Thanks anyway.
Peanut butter, chicken and a little bit of pink salt, now that’s a god tier sandwich filling, with a nice pint of IPA and a side of pickles or chips, and go to the pub it’s the new church in England not of England, 😂
I left school at 16 and started work,30 years ago.
You girls are a delight...
Great video!
Being old I left at 15 but it may as well been 14 because the last year when you joined the leavers class involved literally zero education.
Yes, I left at 15 too.
Working class kids used to leave school at 16 and get full-time jobs. The government then made it so that you cannot work full-time until 18 therefore encouraging (forcing) kids to consider staying in education longer.
I always thought it strange seeing high school kids driving cars in American films, now I know.
It is absolutely correct to use Miss as your title, if you keep your birth name when you marry. Unfortunately many women do not realise this or even realise they do not have to change their name when they marry.
Well done the pair of you.
Thanks Andrew!
It's a matter of courtesy to contact someone to let them know you are visiting. I don't know anyone who would just drop in. No point as they may have a wasted journey if you're out.
In Yorkshire its quite common to turn up unannounced and ask your host to put t'kettle on. No offence given and none taken
The worst possible thing that you can do in visiting someone's house is to turn up earlier than the appointed time. On the business about the development plan, the most usual response would be to ignore the suggestion completely. Always accept invitations to the pub: if you offer to buy the first round, people will like you more. One of these invitations is NOT an invitation to a meal. It is pure hard drinking.
Advice to Shelby: nobody in Britain likes working, and it is NOT a competition. Workers don't like their colleagues to work too hard, or be enthusiastic about the job, or be ambitious, so do not display any of these traits. Remember, employees have to do their job “reasonably competently” to avoid being fired, that is all.
Caitlyn, with him having been so happy and chilled behind you, if only you had asked your friend what does happy as Larry mean?
7 ish means 7 +/- 15 mins. The ish matters, if someone says 7, they mean 7....but most social occasions include the "ish"
Only call mr sir marm ect in school thats it once u leave all 1st name
Weather observations around the world (including surface, radar, and other observations) are always taken with respect to a standard time. By convention, the world's weather communities use a twenty four hour clock, similar to "military" time based on the 0° longitude meridian, also known as the Greenwich meridian.
Prior to 1972, this time was called Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) but is now referred to as Coordinated Universal Time or Universal Time Coordinated (UTC). It is a coordinated time scale, maintained by the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures (BIPM). It is also known as "Z time" or "Zulu Time". The French, who else, allegedly, pressed for UTC rather than Coordinated Universal Time (CUT). Just like they insisted that Concord (the passenger plane) be spelt the French way Concorde. The Aérospatiale/BAC Concorde (/ˈkɒŋkɔːrd/) is a British-French turbojet-powered supersonic passenger airliner that was operated from 1976 until 2003. It had a maximum speed over twice the speed of sound, at Mach 2.04 (1,354 mph or 2,180 km/h at cruise altitude), with seating for 92 to 128 passengers. First flown in 1969, Concorde entered service in 1976 and operated for 27 years. It is one of only two supersonic transports to have been operated commercially; the other is the Soviet-built Tupolev Tu-144, which operated in the late 1970s.