Meditation is uninvited | Krishnamurti

Extract from the tenth conversation with David Bohm at Brockwood Park, 1980. Watch the full video at • J. Krishnamurti & Davi...
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[@freethinker3131]

Without Boham this would’ve not clear. Boham being vortex and getting much as possible from K. Discourses between k and Boham are real jewels 💎

[@sanekabc]

I am so glad Bohm took Krishnamurti to task on his use of the word meditation. K clearly meant the state of meditation and not the so called practice of it.

[@counterintuitivepanda4555]

In India there are two words for it. Dharana and Dhyan. One for the practice and one for the state. Well you can argue the usefulness of pratices but its still useful to make the distinction

[@valdirbergamobergamo5396]

In this conversation, there was an absence of a clear subject. Perhaps because it is a part of a whole video. The only part that is saved is that meditation comes invited : when it happens, we are it. Thanks for the video.

[@ursulaschumann7698]

Emptiness as loss, anguish, or as openness?; anyway, non-judgment--the arising of the freedom to be.

[@j.m.h859]

🙏🙏🙏

[@gameofthrones5655]

The word itself has in Reality no meaning whatsoever on its own= simply a sound...a hollow sound. What a word points 2 = the actuall creation or vision...even brought in a denser layer...called manifestation.
We throw often around with hollow words...without really having a glue of its orign meaning and 2 inquire into is a sort of contemplation...focusing= meditation.❤

[@fabrisoto]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@Inquiring_Together]

✌🏻

[@misseducated2929]

first❤

[@theuofs]

Of the many ways in defining what meditation is, perhaps it can be perceived as the act of allowing the brain to descend from the gamma and beta frequencies (awake and fully alert) down to low alpha frequencies and just before theta frequencies are reached (where we essentially fall asleep) - finding that "sweet spot" at about 8 Hz (the Earth's primary Schumann Resonance is 7.83 Hz) where one can gain access to the subconscious and even unconscious realms of mind.

[@prajwaljoseph2351]

Infinity and zero looks like the same thing

[@fatoufrancescambow5876]

“No” “thing”?

[@charanjitsingh1521]

If meditation is uninvited then how am I supposed to enter that state?

[@seidlebach]

As I see it, you live it.
It is a state of being, not a goal that you can work towards.
What I get from his words is that if you are performing actions to accomplish the goal of mediation your focus on self prevents the actual practice. It is self centered. No matter what you do from that point is for your goal.
I believe the definition of meditation he is referring to is to be in alignment with the of the flow of everything. That's the best way I can put it in words anyway. To do that it can't be self centered. You have to look outside yourself and live in a way that is right. What is right depends on what is needed. That is what you do.

[@freethinker3131]

@@seidlebachabsolutely! Remain in what is and not what should be or not be.

[@counterintuitivepanda4555]

It's a state of being yes. A state of being and not knowing... also not knowing that you are being.

[@nickodem2]

When the "I" is not, when there is no ego to want something (avidity).

[@mahashivyoga]

Emptying the mind there is direct communication with the universal mind being intelligence.