Watching loneliness | Krishnamurti
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What a beautiful answer staying with loneliness without the interference of thought “running away from it”❤️
I have felt all of this, the feelings of isolation, the loneliness, the temptation to become attached, just to resolve the empty feelings. However, I understand to become attached just to end these feelings would not resolve anything in the long run and perhaps make the situation worse, for both myself and another if I were to do so. So I remain with it. Many thanks for sharing 🙏🙏
This is the way. Amen.
But, Mugai.... what was the lonelinesss coming from in the end?
Mohamed: disrespecting yourself, right?
Good
@@MrTiti the illusion of separation that began when you were born in this form - the illusion of separation from “all”
Wow, for myself and another. Very true.
"I dont ask loneliness for an anwer, I watch it, to tell me..." what a amizing learnfull sentence. 🙏 we should do that with everything...
I am sincerely thankful to yt we have such wonderful content available to us right at home, the past which already happened somewhere, the idea of future and the present happenings somewhere.. which wasn't possible with such ease
Watch loneliness and be so alert that no thought interferes. Remain with it and it shall reveal what it is.
Just a creation of mind right? Imagination of being separate from universe
Just observe your thoughts 💭 like watching a passing cloud don't judge your thoughts,watch "it without any motive" this is also a thought. U shouldn't have any motive
See the loneliness as your true self pure present moment
I am afraid it will be scary like a flashback tomorrow something bad, what is an example of what loneliness might reveal to you?
@@justaguyinwonderland i wanna know too
After reading this, I have no quest for the remaining part of his lecture.
This video is in my top 3 favorites of K’s. There is a lot in this 10 minutes or so.
What are your other 2 favourite videos apart from this
Agreed...one of top lecture of all his...
Yes ❤..
I totally resonate with this... I feel incomplete, hopeless, loneliness. Seeing couples together kills me inside.. makes me jealous to the core..... This video will help me. Thank you Jiddu Krishnamurthy 🥺
Best of luck 🤞
Couples may be jealous of you because you are single. There is great freedom to be single. Enjoy it.
People in a relationship only feel the call of nature and that is multiplying that doesn't mean they are happy. You have to sacrifice everything for the family, you have a certain community, but the children grow up and leave the house and you stay together with your wife , a thing that you don't want to anymore .
Loneliness is a sensation, as all fellings are, but because you are trying to escape from it, then all this mess happens.
Loneliness becomes suffering kind of loneliness if you allow thoughts about it emerge and create an image of something that is lacking or void. If you don't allow such thoughts to emerge, then that loneliness becomes a state of mind that is similar to some forms of meditation. When you are alone, it is your choice to feel lonely (painful) or feel calm and liberated.
The greatest blessing for modern humanity is JK ❤ 💯
It's better to wait for it than put pressure on the answer
I failed all the time with waiting for the answer
It's more better for the answer to come to surfaces and your not putting any energy to it
When it comes out I face it to get rid of it and thoughts too
I keep my peace from all answers and see it for what it is
Thank you so much! I love your teaching
I'm so thankful to Krishnamurti and also your channel for sharing all these amazing videos. You don't know how much they mean to me.
most beautiful explanation of loneliness resulting in attachment
Great wisdom.... by watching ourselves... it reveals what we are... by our actions...🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I so much understand when your asking yourself if we are getting this
Yes I sure am and I thank you because I'm asking my brain my thoughts why am I so lonely?
I not letting it go! What is it it keeps coming back! And as you were talking stop let my brain bring it out and it goes way back as a baby, my parents were bad and I hide away alot or stayed out by myself
And as I got older and had my two children it was fear of losing them because I'm a single mom I had to do things myself
So i let that go now and let my thoughts do the talking to me and i listened to it
What a true freedom! Thank you so much! 🙏🤗😘💘💞
I love him so much. He is saying face the loneliness. It only brings fulfillment in the Self! No more attachment praise God!
Like he said, for him it is as clear as seeing a map of roads. He’s seeing it for himself, seeing what it means to be free of the prison that our minds have created. The various traps which the mind stumbles upon and veers off in the wrong direction because it doesn’t actually understand. But to have an insight is to understand, therefore the seeing and the dissipation of the issue is one in the same
Movement between attachment to loneliness and vice versa, observing and being free from both, is the answer to it!
There’s nothing left to say from this video from an adult because when a kid or young child, instantly changes things up and wants to play something else with ‘fresh energy’ in a park or playground or wherever, it feels like receiving an unexpected bonus paycheck
U r never lonely...u just think so...u always have urself and even make up a lot...so u not lonely so 2 speak= a myth 2 be lonely. We seem always 2 4get oneself;).
Krishna Murthy:“I wonder if you understand”
Me: ohh god did he also knew how to read mind cause it’s my 3rd time watching this and I can’t still understand him nice..
Just keep watching and keep on working on your mind... you will get it...
Dude
His clearest message.
This stays with me
I read him during younger days, somehow could not follow him much...but now am rediscovering his intense inquiry process via these clips!!
same with me, i thought i understood him when i was young, now i started understanding the power of what he said
Lonliness is resolved when you realize the one love of the cosmos
Because if I free myself of the loneliness I would be suffice and I wouldn't have to cling onto something to explain my disorders of life. What I am incomplete of? What makes me unhappy? I allow them to, and that's why I get lonely and have to depend on materialism or an idea or a woman. Only if I don't lose to loneliness, I would find myself sufficient and I would not be lonely anymore.
Listening to this guy gave +2 IQ points. Im finally at 100.
Using, "I am" gives You, -10 so that's 90...Just teasing, all the best
Congratulations on your century.
Bat on, old boy, bat on.
@@dj-ux1jr lol
I know what you mean, although reading the comments I'll leave my IQ rating open 😅😂. Seriously though, K should be in all so called educational institutions of the world
❤❤deep and insightful
5:36 he spoke in french before remembering to speak in English :)
😂😂😂
To get out of loneliness or nothingness there's attachment to this and that and then it seems like I want to return to that nothingness again where there's no attachment. This is hilarious
😌😌😌shock reveals everything and the energy is unbearable a kind of madness but it’s a blessing real blessings 🙌🙌🙌
Thank you🤗❤
You have to understand the problem as an observer from outside so what is the problem there? " I am lonely " why am I lonely because I don't have an attachment therefore I'm lonely but if I know that I am a part of the whole universe I'm not lonely anymore because I am the universe and the universe is me
Suppperrbbb❤️
To observe this there shall be no fear, and fear can be put down only when you understand what fear has done to you, how miserable we become when afraid; fear goes away when you dont care anymore about what happens
Страх уходит когда не имеешь вовлечение в происходящее
This is it!
Oh lord, i felt so good after listen to him ❤🙏😇
U r getting attached to this video !!
100% yes in theory.... minding and making conscious is essential. but how is to act, if there is a solution in life and with others necessary? if there are personal parts got stuck in development, eg. because of death of parents, war or other traumas and one got unable to get back in touch with environment? for my experience that deep injuries can't be solved just by working them out in the own mind
Freedom is also one of the attachments, isn't it?
We start treating freedom as a reward and follow what it requires and get into a new trap. Because no one knows how freedom feels.
1st u take this idea to be free and do things to do that. Then after acheiving it, you have to 'get away from this idea' too. So you became free, you start feeling it, now its time to leave it too.
Of course . Tht is why he wants freedom to be . without we seeking it
Freedom is fundimental feature of all beings on this planet. We try to "achive" it in modern times because we lost it through civilization.
Freedom is attachment when you seek it from outside... freedom will unfold automatically inside you when you understand your conditioning, when you understand yourself.
Thanks!
Thank you for your support
Thanks
Thank you for your support
Now I am not interested in attachment.
I am interested in understanding why I am lonely,
what makes me attached. Do you understand?
You are following my dialogue with myself?
That is, that I am lonely and that loneliness
has forced me to escape through attachment to this or that.
Now, I say, 'As long as I am lonely, the whole order is this.'
So, I must investigate why I am lonely.
8:24 im wathcing it for it to tell me....
Very very very very very difficult
Yes we should become conscious observer of our thoughts without judging them and let the thoughts come and pass like clouds pass through sky ..while being in present moment..🙏🏼
So much knowledge 🤣
The reward is attachement…
What a marvelous person he was!
What if you know that there is a contract for you to marry the one you are attached to but noone will allow you?
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
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Jiddu Krishnamurti
Not everyone can be proud enough to live free, still prisoner of fear and though remaining attached tò idea of end , sorrow etc.? Meditation Is the courage to be free, not everyone wants really this because implay no more roots, even in Joy.
Different names for desires - attachment, motive, hope, movement, and so on..The basic job of mind is to desire which expresses in the form of thought which manifests in the form of action and so on... You cannot have a mind and at the same time be free from desires..
To " watch loneliness", mind,the "watcher", has to realise that loneliness is the result of some time- bound action performed by it,out of ignorance.A faculty which is completeness,has,out of ignorance,sought completeness,through the creation of illusory duality of observer and observed.This action,being time- bound,brought sorrow and loneliness once it was completed and a temporary result achieved.Mind was happy withh these sporadic instances of pleasure and absence of loneliness,and concluded that being in a state of constant action is the only way to be "eternally happy",so to say.Mind will be in a position to " watch loneliness", only and only if it knows that loneliness is acquired,aloneness is its state.To be complete and alone,mind has to be in " non- action" mode of functionality.Such an evolved mind can " watch loneliness ",as it is completely out of that time zone which brings in division,duality and loneliness.
That is eye-opening indeed.
That bloke was simply brilliant
Priceless❤
Thank you, for these precious uploads.
Woooow thank you 💙
Why am I never lonely?
Ogway in real life❤️
ONE OF THE FAVOURITE K VIDEOS!
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Ok i wanted to tell something..... If you try to face lonliness you will fear bcoz.... If no thought runs inside the head then 99% brain feel that there is no existence to it..... Bcoz it is there only when it is attached with worldy things..... If no attachment then no thought and fear begins.....
If fear can be handled then it will reveal itself..... That's the end
we all are in fear
Bcoz if there is no thought....no you, no me
Sorry if anyone got hurt.... Even your God will disappear bcoz he is also a thought
Only truths exists....
He's literally describing how to sit with the feeling, to embrace it, to cradle the pain. Without thinking or getting into inner hollywood mental chess drama. And that the answer naturally appears after awhile :)
Where is the rest of this talk?
Check video description
We arrive at attachment being an escape from loneliness. He says to watch loneliness without the interference of thought. Now in pratyahara for example, you disengage from your senses and your mind's movement also gets attenuated. Now in that state everything is good but don't the troubles actually start when your mind, body and emotion start moving in recurrent patterns from the past when you're in activity? If thought stops, where is the existence of loneliness? And what is the instrument of awareness? Is this the ending of loneliness? And can this ending be for good?
all of spiritual practice in a mustard seed.
It is inherited...it is a poisonous thing....watch it....don't move away with words...oneself, onelove ,one life..💚
Profound thoughts & words on the exact time that is needed for me. Suffering from my loneliness after a betrayal & divorce, aloof from the family for being the odd one out.
I want to be love. I want to be free. I don't want to waste my life in fear. This was my motive. It was already a fear. Fear of not living my life in present. Fear of not being enough forever.
I wanted him so bad. I wanted togetherness so much because i was suffering in lonliness for lot of my life and my inner motive was to be free from lonliness, give love and beloved. If i am enough, if i am lovable, i should be acheive being together. Why not ? Why can't i have it? I must have.
His videos make loneliness amazing
so whats after finding the "why" behind loneliness? what should i do? should i give the mind what it feels lonely for? for . e.g., more friends like that...
I watched the video at 1.5x speed, and somehow, I understood it better. 🤔
Video of speaker finishes while he conitnues to explain the subject & is on climax, need a fuller version of K for which he is so willing to reveal
Embrace the void
I am afraid it will be scary like a flashback of something bad, what is an example of what loneliness might reveal to you? I can feel it but I’m scared to stay with it too long
Bellisimo. If K were only always this clear. LOL
K's answers to most of the questions were 'how important the question is' and to be with it. He dared not to answer most of them.
It's not complicated. It's the survival function.
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You taking without thinking. You presence is lost
Self growth is also a kind of attachmant and illusion
We come in alone, & go out alone. That is the truth. Why find sorrow in it?
Beautiful video 🤩
Wouldn’t one become attached to the freedom of attachment?
Great video! thank you so much❤
Deep
if we don't have a motive then why would start something in the first place?
someone please answer
I saw Krishnamurti in 1969 and again in 1970 and it changed my life since then but I was wondering why this channel breaks up what he is saying into small segments
We make available all the full-length recordings as well - these clips serve a demographic that may not be (yet) interested in watching an hour-long video.
These short clips are superb
Thanks for doing this
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Can anyone tell me what is the clip after this??
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Full video anybody please 😢
Peaceful people should watch this
How motive is attachment ? 😅
i was so curious to find this video and watched a couple of times. i havents understood the point after the point where we are observing the loneliness to reveal its reason. im sorry not trying to spead negativity but i havent understood the last point.
Because its something you experience brother. Nobody can tell you how air feels when you ride a bike at 70kmph.
You see what happens is that people don't face their fears, we don't face the real imp questions about life, do we?
Let's say you were in a toxic relationship for 6months, now its 2years and you are stilll depressed about it, you are still carrying that negativity which is making you lonely, unable to trust and feeling vulnerable.
Now you can end this suffering you are in if you just sit and ask yourself "what went wrong? Why am I so upset? Was my breakup good or bad?"
Now if you have seen someone like this, you know they generally avoid these questions. Because they fear to go down that memory lane again. Which actually makes them more miserable.
You get a thorn in your leg, you are unable to walk but you are ready to hobble whole life but won't take the thorn out because it pains when you touch it.
So what JK says here is that you should just sit quietly, alone, no sound, no human and just stay like that. Slowly your mind will start chattering, it will start talking about that problem, that attachment, past suffering, whatever, and just chat with that.
When yo will do that, in the conversations, there comes a few thoughts that scares you, bcoz they are associated with trauma or some thought that you are attached with, and you will find yourself brushing it aside and focusing on some other thought.
Dont do that. Welcome it and solve it right there. As you talk n talk you will find it is peeling itself like onion and at the end, you will have that solution, and you are no longer depressed/attached.
Many videos are cut in short if we can get full length 1 session video that would be good so not to miss any word of it
A link to the full video is always present in the description.
Where can I find the whole video about this subject?
Check the video description
Istnt it that that loneliness comes from thought itself? So can you observe it without thought coming in? Caz its thought you must watch, no?
Awesome
To continue watching click the link to the full video and skip to 56:30 on it.
AND THE ANSWER IS.....?
is in you.
7:31
I need this complete lecture. Please help
Please see video description for link