Very few ppl whose intellect is seeking something out of this world will understand what Mr. J Krishnamurti is trying to convey. Absolutely life changing philosophies!
Well that hit the mark! It's really obvious when you just look in your own mind. It pulled me up short when he said, something along the lines of, you can listen to the speaker or actually listen to it in yourself as he speaks - not a blind following that keeps one going back to hear words of wisdom ad infinitum, rather an acute "hearing" that does not separate the speaker from oneself. Yes!
I understand. Without effort, without conflict, just be with yourself, whatever that self is. As you observe that self, the resistance fades away. What becomes of the self without conflict or resistance?
Starting with; Seeing that the disorder is something outside and fighting with it to eliminate it wastes tremendous energy. Seeing that I am the disorder and there is nothing outside of that which is not projected by me… one gains tremendous energy that was being wasted in fighting with the illusion outside. Now one can go much further. If one remains here then what happens…? Find out! K defined it by saying “then there is great order”, “then there is ChoiceLess awareness “. Then there is nothing only “what is” and there is no one labeling it as disorder, then there is total emptying of the struggles of the consciousness.
It is heartening to see there are people like you who listen to Krishnamurti. Most people I spend time with, are not even remotely interested in such things.
Wow just wowww The level of his observation towards nature goes beyond . Every so called big philosophers of the planet are hypocrites from inside , says one does one... I have never ever seen such a philosopher like him in life. Shakes me entirely from inside
Well, calling him "philosopher" is not really correct. Philosopher is western word for someone who is speculating about certain ideas - mental constructs. Krishnamurti's approach to inner investigation is totally different and it must result in the transformation of the person which is doing the inquiry.
This really hit me in my heart and woke it up! I see me the disorder and as I'm listening I see the disorder in me and changing it as I'm listening It made me cry and now I can fixs my disorder and walk in it with care and love Thank you! For helping me see my disorder and now it's getting in order because of listening to you! 😘👍
He is talking about "Meditation", for Meditation is all there is, just Observe watch, utilizing all our senses and being Attentive, that's all we can do, no comment just look.
To paraphrase JK: If there is inward disorder, then to recognize that one IS the actual disorder within oneself: well, then, there is an admitting to actual reality which THEN makes room for actual transformation. One has to listen to oneself! AND the disorder WITHIN.
🙏There lS No such reality as "me".. "me" lS mental construct of the unenlightened thought .. In The Light of o p e n Awareness when the sense mind is SILENT by bringing Awareness into Present moment of the N o w True Being lS Revealed and The True B e i n g has No attachment-s and knows Not about disorder.. As the True Being lS S e l f Complete..💖
"When we have put everything in order, there is a great deal of energy." -- JK How to bring about this order ? By not clinging What happens if you dont cling ? There will be spontaneity in everything we do. Life energy will just flow. there wont be any image to uphold, no hesitation in any act we do, no duality.
thought has created me in the psycological field trying to separate it and operate on it therefore creating space and time to change its condition or to achieve sth like in the physical sense of learning a language or building a house which needs time
And I ask myself, what am I to do? Is that disorder different from me? Or I am that disorder? Because if the disorder is different from me then I can do something about it, then I can change the pattern, move from one corner to another corner or bring psychological order by suppressing, by control by this and by that. I can do something about it. But if the disorder is not something different from me which is a fact, that the disorder is me; then the problem arises, what happens then? If you yourself see that you live in disorder and that disorder is not different from you fundamentally, basically you are that disorder. Before, you could do something about it because you separated yourself from it and you operated on it and therefore in that there was constant conflict, betrayal, one day you could do it the next day you couldn't do it and so on and so on, fluctuating from day to day. Whereas the fact is, you are that disorder. When the disorder is me , I can't do anything about it. Which means I can't operate on it as I used to before. So I remain in this total disorder. Which is, I am not different from that disorder. That disorder exists because I have divided myself from what I have called disorder. That is one of the major factors of disorder. Wherever there is a separation between me and psychologically what I observe that division is one of the major factors of disorder. So psychologically when there is division between disorder and myself, I am encouraging and cultivating disorder. Whereas the fact is the disorder is myself and therefore the realisation, the truth of that brings order.
Just being aware of your state or identity....whether its orderly or disorderly. whatever it is that is order. The message is get to know who and what you re are cause without which you dont have a starting point or reference to proceed.
I think each video is meditation in itself . Once he starts speaking something takes place in mind
He is too cute when he asks if everything is clear, like a grandpa talking to kids.
True sir.The way he deals with life is unique and you say it.great
Very few ppl whose intellect is seeking something out of this world will understand what Mr. J Krishnamurti is trying to convey. Absolutely life changing philosophies!
Krishnamurti was the real deal. No question about it. A Buddha for our time.
The efforts he has shown to make us understand makes him the best. Most passionate person in the spiritual field 🙏🙏🙏
you are right, we could say, compassionate person....as he shown passion for everyone and every thing around...
Greatest teacher this planet had ever received...❤🙏🙏
Well that hit the mark! It's really obvious when you just look in your own mind. It pulled me up short when he said, something along the lines of, you can listen to the speaker or actually listen to it in yourself as he speaks - not a blind following that keeps one going back to hear words of wisdom ad infinitum, rather an acute "hearing" that does not separate the speaker from oneself. Yes!
Observing disorder from the sideline is easy. Being one with disorder is rather challenging for most of us!
Attachment is fear . Attachment brings insecurity , and insecurity brings fear .
Beauty is order , and order is beauty .
I understand. Without effort, without conflict, just be with yourself, whatever that self is. As you observe that self, the resistance fades away. What becomes of the self without conflict or resistance?
One is its mind creater and also its transformative changer.
Second comment 🙂.
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Starting with; Seeing that the disorder is something outside and fighting with it to eliminate it wastes tremendous energy.
Seeing that I am the disorder and there is nothing outside of that which is not projected by me… one gains tremendous energy that was being wasted in fighting with the illusion outside. Now one can go much further.
If one remains here then what happens…? Find out! K defined it by saying “then there is great order”, “then there is ChoiceLess awareness “. Then there is nothing only “what is” and there is no one labeling it as disorder, then there is total emptying of the struggles of the consciousness.
It is heartening to see there are people like you who listen to Krishnamurti. Most people I spend time with, are not even remotely interested in such things.
Wow.. what an ending.. nice cut!
The greatest enligtened master namaste
I understood it Cleary thank you So much Sir❤
Realization of truth brings Order 🙏
Just Observe 👌
well , that is interesting, thanks for sharing :)
Wow just wowww
The level of his observation towards nature goes beyond .
Every so called big philosophers of the planet are hypocrites from inside , says one does one... I have never ever seen such a philosopher like him in life.
Shakes me entirely from inside
He was exceptional. Penetrating insight and incredibly honest, with himself and others.
Well, calling him "philosopher" is not really correct.
Philosopher is western word for someone who is speculating about certain ideas - mental constructs.
Krishnamurti's approach to inner investigation is totally different and it must result in the transformation of the person which is doing the inquiry.
Awareness of the disorder is order ❤
This really hit me in my heart and woke it up!
I see me the disorder and as I'm listening I see the disorder in me and changing it as I'm listening
It made me cry and now I can fixs my disorder and walk in it with care and love
Thank you! For helping me see my disorder and now it's getting in order because of listening to you! 😘👍
I doubt if there could be a better way of describing it. Humble thanks for JK.
So insight . Many thanks
You are that you are!
Great elucidation which is otherwise difficult to comprehend. It's compulsiveness across the spectrum which has to be sublimated to bring order.
Love u K... ❤️💐🙏
Beautiful ❤️💯
He is saint
He is talking about "Meditation", for Meditation is all there is, just Observe watch, utilizing all our senses and being Attentive, that's all we can do, no comment just look.
One of the greatest speeches ever. jK ❤️🙏🙏🙏
Some will get it & some people won't...ya blood's worth bottling... Jiddu..👍
Straight probe 👏
To paraphrase JK: If there is inward disorder, then to recognize that one IS the actual disorder within oneself: well, then, there is an admitting to actual reality which THEN makes room for actual transformation. One has to listen to oneself! AND the disorder WITHIN.
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Traduzione in italiano .grazie
🙏There lS No such reality as "me".. "me" lS mental construct of the unenlightened thought .. In The Light of o p e n Awareness when the sense mind is SILENT by bringing Awareness into Present moment of the N o w True Being lS Revealed and The True B e i n g has No attachment-s and knows Not about disorder.. As the True Being lS S e l f Complete..💖
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"When we have put everything in order, there is a great deal of energy." -- JK
How to bring about this order ? By not clinging
What happens if you dont cling ? There will be spontaneity in everything we do. Life energy will just flow. there wont be any image to uphold, no hesitation in any act we do, no duality.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
thought has created me in the psycological field trying to separate
it and operate on it therefore creating space and time to change its condition or to achieve sth like in the physical sense of learning a language or building a house which needs time
Can I get a written script please.
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And I ask myself, what am I to do? Is that disorder different from me? Or I am that disorder? Because if the disorder is different from me then I can do something about it, then I can change the pattern, move from one corner to another corner or bring psychological order by suppressing, by control by this and by that. I can do something about it. But if the disorder is not something different from me which is a fact, that the disorder is me; then the problem arises, what happens then?
If you yourself see that you live in disorder and that disorder is not different from you fundamentally, basically you are that disorder.
Before, you could do something about it because you separated yourself from it and you operated on it and therefore in that there was constant conflict, betrayal, one day you could do it the next day you couldn't do it and so on and so on, fluctuating from day to day.
Whereas the fact is, you are that disorder.
When the disorder is me , I can't do anything about it. Which means I can't operate on it as I used to before. So I remain in this total disorder.
Which is, I am not different from that disorder. That disorder exists because I have divided myself from what I have called disorder. That is one of the major factors of disorder.
Wherever there is a separation between me and psychologically what I observe that division is one of the major factors of disorder.
So psychologically when there is division between disorder and myself, I am encouraging and cultivating disorder. Whereas the fact is the disorder is myself and therefore the realisation, the truth of that brings order.
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Just being aware of your state or identity....whether its orderly or disorderly. whatever it is that is order. The message is get to know who and what you re are cause without which you dont have a starting point or reference to proceed.
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Disorder & order both are you.
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I am the disorder indeed
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I don’t understand why disorder is me. And if so, should there only be order when we die?
To the last sentence of yours, can we die in chaos or disorder? Yes, if we have to.
What is order? (versus chaos).
There no disorder it in order end.
If I'm the disorder then who has created this disoder.
Humans did it.
Full vedio please
Check video description
Disorder is not separate from order sir .
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