Carl Jung Triggers Patient's Shadow...
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- Опубликовано: 11 апр 2021
- A wonderful clip featuring Mary Bancroft from the documentary on C.G. Jung "Matter of The Heart." When Jung poked Mary with a very simple question, she was shown a reflection that she wasn’t quite ready to honesty acknowledge... Her response is a quintessential example of “projection”.
Jung's connection to the unconscious meant that he could peer into the depths, and bring it right back out to meet you. This intuitive sensitivity meant that Jung could "know" the (supposedly) unknowable.
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Excellent she's laughing at her self
Like most of us if we reflect on ourselves
“A sense of humour is the only divine quality of man” - Schopenhauer 😊
taking psychedelics is an excellent way to calm the ego enough to genuinely laugh at oneself while simultaneously feeling self-empathy without self-pity
@@jd35711 which would you say is the safest?
@@Babbolozada a good question…👍. In my experience, the use of psychedelics eventually brought on a crisis. My crisis forced me to undertake some unpleasant honest self appraisal, and ultimately brought about some radical changes in my perception of the world around me. If I could have sat-down with C.G.Jung, that process would likely have unfolded more naturally - however, at that time life was just a series of knee-jerk reactions to the world around me…..I didn’t possess the presence of mind to consider shadow content or the importance of its integration. LSD stopped me in my tracks, and proved a useful vehicle toward an increasing awareness of my internal landscape, and its relationship with the world around me.
Oh, I know that laughter. The laughter of realization. There's freedom in that laughter, and acceptance, and release, and "wow I finally get it," whether you can explain it to another or not.
She's so lucky twitter didn't exist at the time. The dopamine rush from retweets and likes etc... Would have kept her hooked on being angry at tons of people forever. Like it has with many other poor souls, consumed by positive reinforcement toward their hatred.
"consumed by positive reinforcement toward their hatred" 👌
I liked this
Truuuuuee.
Wow. Essence of truth.
u right
My marriage improved a lot when I realized I wasn't the good guy I thought I was
nice!
Good to hear!
pick up rollo tomassis books
John Taylor Gatto
Awesome, niki e
That's a profound insight and not at all easy to do. Good on you, sir. As long as both parties are willing and capable of doing this, there is a healthy foundation to build on
“Jung TRIGGERS grandma’s Shadow, absolutely DESTROYS her with facts and logic!” 😂🤙🤯😵
Oh god not here of all places hahaha
I was not expecting this sort of comment on this video, but ngl I laughed a lot
Shapiro DESTROYED by his own jealousy of Jung
Peterson fans 😂😂😂
TRIGGERED Shapiro calls Jung an anti semite, gets OWNED
This is something I have seen in myself before: I had no patience for anyone else and therefore nobody had any patience with me. It took me much longer than I would like to admit to figure that out too.
It's even funnier when you see the same patterns play out in someone else and you're reminded of who you were or I guess still are since we can never get rid of our shadow self.
Thank you. Your comment let me see that this is true for me also.
@@MASTER.SON. till will of the flesh/death do us part
At least you are learning and growing that’s a whole lot more than many can say for themselves
Yup, if you feel like people are ignoring you, it might indicate you’re wrapped too tightly into your own affairs to begin with.
I do almost everything by myself and then wonder why no one ever invites me to do anything. I never specifically invite them to do anything either, zero reciprocity on my part
I told my 11 year old daughter the other day if the world feels like its always angry with you, maybe its because you we're angry with it first. She got it!
Kids are pretty intuitive like that 🙃 thanks for sharing 💕
I would be mad to if I was thrown into this dimension. Its like giving someone drugs without concent
Solid advice, but there should be another side to this coin.
Children are often better at understanding what adults find counterintuitive. They are not impeded by the demands of an ego and the defense of what they think they already know. Not yet anyway
I’m 30 yes old and you just helped me out so much! Maybe your daughter and I can have a iq test-off bahhah
“The human shadow has roots that reach all that way to hell.” Carl Jung
@TidalWave Dan _This is the correct quote_ *"No tree, it is said, can grow to heaven unless its roots reach down to hell."*
@@KWillyzz1 that’s a hell of a quote.
@Herald Kumar From Nietzsche.
@@frankzappa6391 From Nietzsche.
@@keithhunt5328 Friedrich Nietzche. Makes sense. Very famous mind back then.
I'm most impressed by the fact that he knew she'd be back.
Ni dom maybe hmmmmm? Just kidding, I don't know what his type is, the most common typings are intp and infj
She never left.
@@RandomAnnon On their way to the monastery, two monks pass by a woman in a white dress, that seems to be wanting to cross the river. The older monk carrys the woman to the other side of the river, and they go their seperate ways. As the two men reach the monastery, the younger monk says: "Why did you carry the woman across the river? You know that we are not permitted to deal with the fairer sex.". The older monk replies: "Brother, I let her go at the other side of the river. Why are you still carrying her with you?".
@@letsplay5301 hahahaha. This is awesome
Yeah, amazing how predictable people are when you know how the mind works.
Anger is such a powerful emotion and she’s absolutely right, it feels good to be angry. It feels justified most of the time and it’s certainly better than feeling sorry for yourself or feeling pain or hurt.
Im tired of being angry all the time tho.. im exhausted
it feels "you"
Yes it does but the point was she saw that itvwas not needed in the end. She got it all out in her writing.❤ ‘Venting’ with a trusted friend can do the same thing so long as its mutual and consented, staying positively upbeat all thectime is exhausting snd abnormal to me
Anger is the emotion of a child who cannot see the truth of themselves. Sometimes that truth hurts.
I never felt this, I completely disagree. I don't like being angry.
Jung was truly an expert in psychology, most psychological disorders stem from excessive ego protection triggered by insecurity, so if you see anger, rejection and hostility in the patient you know you've hit the nail, hence why Jung expected her return.
He shared many elements of his own shadow in 'the red book', without shame or disillusion.
Well put!
@@jcefalo2001 thanks
"ego" most of the times is just a collection of symptoms arranged to function as a "person" - my two cents after years of life, jungian therapy, and more life
@@esaedromicroflora1247 i like it, good way of putting it. I always seen the ego as the 'over swelling' of the 'can do' drive thats in all animals which is part of the fight or flight system. So animals dont develop ego because they're constantly in the 'now', self reflection doesnt occur and slow down action. With humans, we have curbed most survival challenges to relative ease through community, and thus our reflective mind has time to make more of things than they really are.
A bit like the way that the stomache is just a swollen part of the oesophagus, the ego is just a swollen part of the fight or flight mechanism, come about through lack of survival challenge.
@@escapevelocity8092 that's a really interesting point of view dude, thank you for sharing it
He truly believed in his patients to figure it out.
The more you stand up for yourself...the less you have to stand up for yourself, since people come to know your boundaries rather quickly.
it all starts from you at the end of the day and gets pushed out. of course you should know how to figure it out
The patient has to believe in the therapist for the therapy to work. The therapist has to believe in himself as the therapist for the patient to believe in him. The patient must realize all that to become his own therapist and for the therapy to conclude
@@user-kt7li4le8s this is why i would recommend being your own therapist
That's what good therapy is all about, the therapist is there to help you reflect on your issues by yourself rather than tell you what to do
I'm 24... for years I was mad because I realized everybody was always awkward, like there will ever be a point where life is not awkward??? Everywhere I saw, there was awkwardness, always... but now I see, that's just a mirror of my behaviour. So I started speaking louder, no matter if I was going to be wrong I just wanted to be heard, that's when people didn't seem insecure like I was... because I was trully speaking my hearth, they knew me finally...
I hope this helps other youngsters like me
Dude you’re spot on. I would always find myself surrounded by who I perceived to be weirdos or awkward people, and it’s because I make them act that way! Mannerisms, language, all of it is a reflection of yourself. People behave differently when you’re not afraid to assert yourself. They feel like they can be themselves when you’re confident. It’s a vicious cycle in both directions.
@@Linkolite you said it best. Thanks
@@Mecanotech Well, one thing that really didn't change for me was other people. I can tolerate them way better by laughing at them, but they themselves certainly didn't change like I did...
@@Linkolite Some people will just fell weared off by that confidence and call you an arrogant asshole.
@@chicxulub2947 that would require them to disconnect from engaging you(the perceived arrogant asshole) and leave with their opinion because that what they wanted to hear from you. If they are patient they WILL understand that your confidence comes from security.
People that shy away after first impressions and label others as arrogant assholes(an over-compensating insecure being) probably are yet to overcome their own shadow of insecurity, going by Jung's logic.
She talks like a writer writes
GOOOOOOD
That's because she is a writer :)
Back in a time where clear communication mattered more. Now its all about speed
hahaha underrated
“See-ya! He writes the way people talk!”
Understanding that the shadow is not “bad” or “mean” or “evil”, and that it’s just the UNCONSCIOUS mind (ie that which we are unaware of), because Jung thought of the conscious mind as having light upon it, was actually life changing for me
This is such an important point to stress. We give moral weight to things and then it makes it harder for us to examine ourselves, for fear of being "bad" or "evil", I thins applies to personality styles as well. Cluster B disorders in particular are seen as bad, because the behavior of the people with those disorders often leave a trail of destruction. They are not likely to seek out or embrace a diagnosis because of the connotations. If we could remove the stigma, how many people would seek help and learn the skills to not leave a path of hurt behind them?
Taking away to good/bad dichotomy in these areas may be the key to helping people.
@@deeh5126 right! The level of wisdom and compassion needed for that type of work, is immense. It would require both empathy and a sense of objectivity, which aren’t typically seen as going hand in hand.
I think this applies both to self-work and in working with others.
@@Shmyrk It is for sure a hard spot to be. I have a ton of compassion, but lack a lot in the objectivity area, so I can imagine it would be a super tricky field. Few people have the right balance. I wonder if teams could be formed, representing a good mix of the right qualities? Though, I daresay that most of the people in need of such services would struggle to afford it, as things currently are.
It is such a quagmire. So much needs to be done, but the cost (financial and mental/emotional) is so high. Maybe one day the world will have figured it out and we will have a healthier society. For now all I can do is work on me and try to steer my kids in a good direction.
@@deeh5126 yup! I’m in the same boat. And so much of raising our kids properly IS doing the self work (and healing out own inner child).
It really is such a tough spot. I “can’t afford” a lot of this advanced physical and mental (and energetic) healthcare…but I am starting to concede that it’s also because I don’t place my health and well being as top priority (arguably where it should be).
Perhaps, in a way, having to sacrifice finances is a PART of the healing, as it creates the intention within ourselves to heal. It has been shown that humans value things that are more expensive over things given away freely. In a way that’s kind of liberating because it shows just how much of a role our own mind plays in the healing.
Still though, some things do truly seem to be out of reach both in terms of financially and availability-as very skilled healers seem to be completely booked solid once the general masses here about them lol
If you have been raised by a narcissistic parent you will find great traits suppressed in your shadow hidden because they were a threat to them.
“A great way to see your flaws is by seeing them in others” i’ve read that somewhere
reminds me of "if you want to understand yourself, look outward to others. If you want to understand others, look inward toward yourself"
I agree but isn't that where empathy comes in?
What if you judge yourself too harshly? So you see flaws and problems everywhere because you are too hard on yourself and trying to be "enough" all the time...
Imagine having the privilege to be one of Jung's patients.
My thoughts too.
Read all his work
Sat in A.A. meetings with a guy named Phil. Phil sometimes had great words of wisdom. In one of those meetings Phil imparted that he attended some meetings in N.Y. with a guy named Carl Jung. It was then that l realized who the wise one was.
my friend Sarah had been abused by the Grandad and her therapist had been trained by Jung
Eh.
A year! A year. That’s how long it took for her to process one comment. That’s how difficult self reflection can be.
A year is nothing. I've had comments that took me 10-15 years to process
When i was a child at about the age of ten, I had a neighbour kid in my age, and we hated each other’s guts.
Whenever we’d pass each other on our way in or out of our homes we’d stick our tongues out and make grimaces against one another.
One day I was out playing in the sand in the communal yard when the mean boy showed up and stomped on my sandcastle.
It made me really angry, of course, yet something very unexpected happened at that moment.
I told him to stop, and to my surprise he did.
He looked at me with a stern face, expecting me to tell him something vile, but something came over me and in a calm tone I asked, “Why are we fighting?”
The boy was so perplexed at the question that he had to sit down for a moment, and then he said, “I don’t know.”
A moment later I invited him to play with me in the sand, and after that our relationship flipped from sworn enemies to great friends.
What I learnt at that moment is to always be the first one to break the viscous cycle.
I’m 30 today and still see that lesson as one of my most important ones.
Her ability to both recognize her own shortcoming and admit them to both herself and others. This is what being a human is all about.
Anger is a secondary emotion, usually to fear. And I like how she spelt it out "Why is everybody so mean to me?" , "Why are you so mean to everybody?" Because she feared rejection and abandonment, because she was in pain- she rejected the very thing she craved but was too afraid to accept. And now she's laughing, so I hope that now she received all the happiness and love she deserved.
This is partially wrong. Anger is not following fear, it is inhibiting it. What really precedes anger is hurt. So what really happened is she being hurt with an uncomfortable truth, and anger is really good at protecting you (and your ego, because at that time you don't know if it is the truth, so your anger is like an immune system preventing you to change your ways too much).
@@antonk.653 You cannot be hurt without fear or resentment
It's a shame that some people will be abusive regardless of what we do
@@philcooper9225 I disagree. People can be hurt in many ways, prime example is physical pain. Babies and toddlers can be angry, there is no fear or resentment.
@@antonk.653 It doesn't matter if you disagree or not - people who lack fear and resentment do not suffer long term emotional pain or PTSD
Deal with it
Never before today have I heard an elderly lady say something so close to "you know what I was wrong".
Then you haven't listened more attentively and/or acknowledged the myriad of ways "i am/was wrong" can be stated. Perhaps you have convinced yourself that it must occur within such a rigid context that you do not believe it does occur.
@@harmonyqueueahhh I see, yes....but does my PP need TP. I see you are a man of wise words and great philosophy, much like the great Cornholio 🙇♂️.
@@harmonyqueue Only they did understand that she was saying “I was wrong” in a non-rigid way, or really anything similar to how you described. This blame takes away any responsibility from the person needing to be heard to put effort into their communication and gives that responsibility to everyone else to make up for it.
My grandmother really must have been a wise woman then because she admitted her wrongs.
Hell I’ve never heard a younger lady say something close to that either lol
The secretary says that to all estranged patients
LOL
such secretary should never be fired
Fellow cynic, we think alike
It's part of her duties, as explicitly written by Jung on the underside of her desk :P
Brilliant deduction.
And here we are tripping over ourselves to avoid triggering people, instead of seeing it as an opportunity to grow
To be clear, the triggering that people are trying to avoid is not really the same thing. Triggering flashbacks to traumatic experiences and things like that can be extremely tough on people and when psychiatrists work with that kind of thing they do so under very controlled circumstances. It's very reasonable to give people the opportunity to avoid traumatic triggers in day to day life.
@@Tardsmat most people talking about triggers are not talking about PTSD - for instance many trigger warnings are for political beliefs, not depictions of traumatic experiences.
@@Tardsmat That is not true. Most of the things that are considered "triggers" today are just different opinions and views some peolpe just refuse to be confronted with.
And in all those cases it is absolutely true what gracefool just said.
I don’t avoid that
@@Tardsmat right? Outside the community... I mean... I try and avoid using the word trigger for that specific reason. Somehow it came to mean bringing on any emotion... like, that shits normal. Being back in a horrible physically and mentally scaring event is triggering. The worst thing is it has become a hollow phrase. Recognizing one's triggers is essential to recovery from numerous mental health concerns. Instead it's become.... well, it's become a hollow phrase with the people it was made for and who need it are often afraid to use it. Consciously or not.
What a wonderfully engaging woman, bright, humorous, and full of life-energy. I wonder if she was always this way or if her personality significantly changed after therapy? It seems that there are so few people like this anymore... Most people I see or meet seem to be walking around half-dead.
"I wonder if she was always this way or if her personality significantly changed after therapy?" - to me it seemed that at 1.24 you can literally see her face transform from the stern attitude she used to have to an entirely new perspective, smiling, wide eyed, looking up in a kind of awe. To me that showed the effect of the therapy in a nutshell. Wonderful to see.
And I agree with your latter point, I was just speaking with someone the other day about how they felt like they were a "dead man walking". I used to be like it myself, my body was dead! It took a few years and a lot of persistence to resurrect it.
why are YOU walking around half dead?
@@Aidan-uy3bf I’m still not sure what happened to make her change I think. Was she stuck up and couldn’t laugh at herself for xyz reason and then eventually learned how and now she’s a much more likable person for it?
I ask because I’ve always found it hard to laugh at myself or be laughed at since I was a kid. I hate it. Everyone thinks I’m stuck up and maybe it’s true. But I’m not sure how to even go about solving the problem.
@@tituslee2153 Meditation and self reflection is everything. Seeing yourself through that lens is eye opening and cathartic. You have to be willing to tell yourself the truth about your motivations and your faults. It can be difficult but it will change your life if you let it. It's a slow process. Have patience and just let your thoughts fall into place like puzzle pieces and a picture will start to form. It will never work unless you are willing to accept some hard truths about yourself.
@@tituslee2153 @Titus Lee Well the thing which broke off the relationship was Jung asking "Why are you so mean to everyone?"
She then departed from him for a year and spent, what sounded like, a decent amount of time being mean to Jung in letters because she enjoyed it so much. And because she didn't want to give off a "poor little me" attitude.
I think that that morning she woke up and thought to herself 'what have I been doing for a year?' And what she'd been doing was being as mean as possible to Jung, proving his point!
This would then lead to questions such as why she finds it so enjoyable to be mad at people, why she specifically doesn't want to give off a "poor little me" impression (possible inferiority complex?). This would all help stop her from taking an attitude of being mean to people, which would make her more likable.
The laughing at yourself I think comes from recognising your own foolishness. For a year she'd been acting like a fool, doing exactly what Jung said she'd been doing whilst all the time thinking she was the one in the right. I think what makes it funny rather than humiliating is seeing how ridiculous you've been. I think what's key is that the reason that you were being ridiculous is because you were blind to something, and that isn't really your fault. And I think the fact that it wasn't really your fault makes the whole thing seem more objective so that you can look back and laugh at it.
With regards to the same difficultly relating to you, I've been there myself. It's a tough one. Here's a quick personal story to summarise my difficultly with an aspect of myself and the eventual resolution...
At work last year 2 guys came into the break room and both started saying "You're weird aren't you?", "You're just weird" and so on. I was confused by this and didn't really know how to respond. I left the breakroom and thought about it for a while. The solution then came to me...I am weird! By accepting the fact that I am a bit weird it was no longer a source of pain or embarrassment for it to be pointed out, I could embrace it, accept it, roll with it! I went back into the breakroom on my lunch, the two guys came in, one of them said "alright weird?" I replied "would you like to get weird with me" in a seductive sort of way! And it got a big laugh from everyone, including his friend, the other guy who called me weird! So I think it's a matter of whether something is a source of pain which you try to hide from people or whether something is a potential source of joy (or at least not pain!) which you embrace and accept. The acceptance means that even if people do make fun of it then you can join in because you accept it and can then see the humour in what they're saying.
Jung, a gift to mankind. A psychotherapist with a heart and soul. He did his own inner work and then blessed all who were his patients. Thank you for this very meaningful video.
I love this woman. I have a feeling Jung got a huge kick out of her shadow projections.
sure he did he worshiped satan
really ? i found her repellant.
lol.jung absorbed emotion like emotional empath(he hides it as most EE,as persona demands it),he absolutely hated her vibe and flat out almost ignored her,gave no treatment.Except tell her to acknowledge her own mirron projection to others.HE knew she would come back after understanding her own mirron projection.
I was pleasantly surprised by her honesty but she basically told us that she was a sadistic, shameless narcissist.
Can’t help but imagine how her long suffering family benefited from her growth. It must have been a big surprise to all who knew her.
Never met the guy, but I do know one thing about him that is factual, he had the humility to admit when he couldn’t help certain people. Most intelligent individuals have a difficult time admitting such a thing and because of his humility the founding fathers of Alcoholics Anonymous were sprung and thus there are now millions of sober people who have and are now becoming better citizens/parents/siblings/workers ad infinitum.
@@Finaggle Science is always trying to find new solutions for this disease and has made some advancements but unfortunately not enough to change the stats of what is accomplished within A.A. Not sure why you’re so excited about the idea that A.A. might be helping less people. Wether someone recovers at home or within a group aren’t you happy that the individual is doing better regardless of where they got their help? You seem like a very bitter individual, glad I don’t got whatever it’s you have. 😂😂😂
@@Finaggle Have you been to A.A.?
@@Finaggle Just wondering where you got your information from is all. I’m also a member and sober now for 25 years. I don’t think you had the pleasure of getting your information from someone who could have explained the program a bit better to you. This is one of the reasons A.A. has it’s low success rating. The bigger issue is that most people don’t like working on themselves and thus try their hardest to find any reason to walk out the door. Science hasn’t solved that problem either so the serenity (soundness of mind) of which A.A. speaks of will also be at low percentages within the scientific community as well. 🤷♂️
@@Finaggle you told me why you don’t like A.A. Not sure why you would then say I’d didn’t care too ask you why you didn’t like A.A.
@@Finaggle you seem incredibly arrogant. Which is a tell tale sign you’ve missed the point of the program entirely
What you suppress down, even unknowingly, becomes your shadow. It is worse when you forget why you suppressed it.
“It’s the opposite of poor little me” I felt that in my bones
Her smile at the end is so beautiful, so genuine that you can see it comes from the heart.
Something rare to behold.
...she had duped herself. It tickled her that she was the problem all along. Probably refreshing realizing she had nothing to be mad at.
@@atrocious_pr0xyyap, the sad thing is people hating on her in the comments. People being angry…no self reflection for the rest
We lose our humanity if we lose our benevolence.
But we have to learn to be willing to not project that benevolence on those who do not deserve it; to be willing to withdraw it when justice demands.
The key is this: the choice for the way you are is always yours regardless of the circumstance which could have played a role in getting you there. We can learn for the good or bad life experiences we have gone through and make the changes accordingly to be more centered. Forgiveness plays an important roll in cleansing ourselves of the past and in the present we can choose how to react to any situation. The past doesnt define you, you define yourself and play the roll you want in this stage.
Sounds like psychological projection. We accuse others and blame them for our own faults. So if you think everyone is mean, maybe you are mean. If you think everyone is dishonest and untrustworthy, maybe it's you and not them. Of course in some cases it will truly be the other, but I think the point here is that self reflection and admitting one's own faults is vital to building a healthy relationship with the world and with ourselves.
But what about if you are kind and supportive and the other person's action is to be total disrespectful and not trusting you in exchange? I have the right to be angry as fuck
People project their own hate and trauma on me like nobody's business
What about bullies? A kid minding his own business and suddenly this guys came and told him to kill himself. And the next day he come to school the other guys start tell him bunch of slur.
Absolute bullshit.
If you think anyone is lacking in "self reflection", you're not paying attention to the mind at all.
People are constantly self reflecting in negative ways, constantly blaming themselves, thinking about stuff they should and shouldn't do. That's what most thinking is about already.
If I had to improve someone's mind, I'd first work on self reflecting less.
"I can lose five pounds just by getting mad." Oh shit, that's me.
Why are you so mean to everyone?
Adrenaline can be addicting.
@@urbanfox7322She can be mad at the world and not show it. It doesn't mean that being mad must be being mean.
If someone betrayed you, you might choose to be mad and not to talk with that person anymore. That's not being mean, it's protection.
I mean, it's understandable. We pay experts to give us solutions, but psychologists don't offer any solutions most of the time. Of course people would get frustrated with paid psychologists who don't prescribe anything. It makes us feel even more powerless. We come to them to get advice, yet the majority of the time they simply show us their empty hands. All we can get out of it, at best, is an understanding of how we operate. A solution to our problems is not included. When psychologists finally do give advice, it's always open-ended. "You may", "how about", "what if". We come to them seeking answers, and we're left asking more questions.
Psychotherapy is very exhausting, and we need energy to make changes in life. If we lose all that energy during our therapy sessions, how can we move forward?
But that's part of the point. If we want to get better in the head, we need to change our circumstances. And if we make the wrong changes, we need to return to a default mode where we're safe from ourselves and from others. So we can't just grab easy answers and rush in. That's what got us into the whole mess in the first place. The path forward most likely has to be exhausting. Just not so exhausting that we freeze.
Wonderful thoughts and reflections 💕
I really like this. We all have to live with the agony of having self discipline or the agony of not
Most of the time our job is to help you realise what the problem is and hopefully help you come up with a solution or just hear you out.
The reason why psycologists are a sc
@@nunothedude if you want to be t o l d what to do, looks for a coach, although to my knowledge, good ones are even rarer
Fascinating. From the Internal Family Systems perspective, a vulnerable part was triggered by Jung. In time this vulnerable part (or another part) started to see what Jung said from another view and thus she was able to move into curiosity and openness. My feeling is she was very fortunate to have felt that revelation and return to Jung - a lot of people seem to get fixated in their defenses, anger and indignation. This has prompted me to read some Jung. Thank you for sharing.
She was able to access self. Great observation.
I had thing weird thing were I'd get mad when people said life had no value and no reason to do it. I'd even went as far as to say "humans are ungrateful bastards! life is wasted on us! let a comet hit the earth and wipe us out already!". Figured out way too late I was really just in denial of my own depression. Getting angry at people who expressed displeasure with life was a desperate attempt to convince myself things were fine. Finally admitting these people weren't "the problem", but it was all just me, was a huge relief and a first step into making genuine progress. I've been doing genuinely good for 9 months now and I'm even on my way to stop anti-depressants.
I have a problem with positive thinking and the people who believe in it as the solution and that if you are not positive is your choice.
Many people can't understand childhood trauma and the outcome of being raised to be a failure, being gaslit throughout your entire life.
I think is mean saying someone that you feel terrible because you choose to feel that way and you are not positive enough when you wish you could erase all your past.
It sounds mean because they believe you enjoy living in hell and if you're parents destroyed your self esteem is because you believe them and it's your fault. So easy to blame the victim.
No one chooses to be unhappy but some just pretend to not feel but reflect onto others and pretend they are great while destroying their close ones.
Positive thinking is not a solution, it's the outcome of lots of inner child work.
Hm
I believe that the last thing we learn about ourselves is our affect on others.
Your external world is typically a representation of your internal mind and reflects back to you what is inside of you. If people routinely treat you terribly, it most likely says something about YOU. This is a very difficult but necessary lesson to learn in life.
I wouldn't call it "your external world" but "your resumed perception of the world". Language is important, people!
@@yonidellarocha9714 It's not just perception. If your mind is scattered and unorganized, your house will likely reflect that and be disorganized and untidy as well.
Not your internal mind. Your unconscious. The unconscious is the body and that held within...rejected / suppressed.
@@tizzlekizzle subconscious mind
No, that's absolutely horrible victim blaming.
You know NOTHING about people's situation. And your ideology has made you an incredibly toxic, dangerous person.
Jung has always been my hero.... His contribution to my life is something that I can't thank him enough for... Shadow Work saved my life.....
Sorry to ask but could you explain to me what is shadow work, I tried to look for a method or an explanation and it always seemed very confusing to me (I though that you might be of help since things like this could be better answered by a human instead of a technical book)
@@AB-dd4jz So shadow work is kind of a method to know yourself(your mind) to the core... It was developed by Jung... I just learnt it from a video on YT and applied it to my life... And I was amazed at how stranger I was to myself... In short I didn't really knew who I was... I discovered my childhood trauma experiences or remembered them... Funny thing though... I found about Shadow Work from Shia LaBeouf's Oscar conversation... He has been through rough shit... So I did some research and I stumbled upon my hero Carl Jung...
@@jaiminsharma firstly, thank you very much for your quick answer.
I search for videos on youtubes about shadow work, the first bunch recommended where about various youtubers trying it, so skipped since I prefer hearing it from a specialist, then Jordan Peterson had a video about it.
So what I learned is that by dissolving your sense of morality you can come face to face with the darkest part of yourself wishing for various things that are immoral and accepting those wishes and subliming them into something sociably acceptable instead of represing them is the act of doing shadow work.
Do you think my explanation is correct or is there anything I missed ?
@@AB-dd4jz Kind of... Yes... But it's not only about accepting the parts of you that you rejected to fit in society... It's also about being whole as a person... You can't be whole without accepting the evil in you... But shadow work is more than that... It is a tool for healing... Healing your past... I am going to paste a link here that I found helpful... ruclips.net/video/5kDN7g9kBAs/видео.html
@@jaiminsharma Ok I think I understand now that the parts that have to be integrated while doing shadow work are not limited to what's moral or not, it's everything that have been rejected by yourself to fit your own narrative, our narrative being :"I am xyz, my whole environment taught me that abc should not be me and / or I don't want to be abc" so abc goes to the shadows by being rejected by yourself consciously or unconsciously.
0:28 damn thats a long finger
People know if they are kind to others or not - having boundaries or being offended when a wrong has been done to you does not amount to being mean; some times it really isn't you but the world around you. It just so happened that in the case of this woman it applied. But be careful of videos like this sent your way - the world is full of people who want you to believe you're being mean because you find fault in their meanness.
Great point! Sometimes people around us may well and truly be cruel to us. In this instance, the inquiry wouldn’t be about the individuals projection in a basic and literal sense (as demonstrated by Mary in this video), but more so into WHY you might be choosing to allow people to be demanding/cruel to you!
The responsibility here then would be about, as you say, having better personal boundaries or making empowered decisions about who you choose to be around (a clear example being, let’s say, a very toxic and manipulative person that shows no willingness to take responsibility). We still have responsibility over our own consciousness, but it’s more about discerning what is the most accurate and relevant act of care given the context.
We might not be projecting our own behaviour (as demonstrated in the video), but we might be projecting/disowning our own sense of inner power to make healthy and beneficial decisions for ourselves and those around us. 💕
@@CoreIntegrity Yes exactly- that's why I don't allow people to be cruel to me. I know we live in a world that will focus on why I am allowing someone to be cruel to me rather than on why this person is being cruel. I establish boundaries but I still see what is happening so that cognitive dissonance is not achieved. Thank you for your response.
You just defined gaslighting. People who employ gaslighting usually have sadistic streaks and they usually have those because they know they're intellectually inferior to those they attempt to torment.
Spot on! It's manipulative, to make the person question themselves, by claiming they are projecting. It could be argued he planted the idea she was mean. And she capitulated, because of he's the expert. But the video ends and we don't know if she truly believes she was mean
@@yoya4766 It's only manipulative if you have reason to believe the opposite. Some people ARE projecting, and ARE mean, or the root of their own issues with others -- aggressively-speaking. OP said "sometimes it's the world around you, but in the case of this woman [the idea that she was projecting and being mean herself] applied ..." So OP was agreeing that this woman really was the issue, they just added that sometimes that's not the case. You came back stating unequivocally that convincing someone THEY'RE the mean one is manipulative. You misunderstood. And you're wrong.
She’s wonderfully sparky! It just makes me miss sharing coffee, tea, breakfast, smokes or booze with beautiful seniors of bygone eras. I knew that when they passed that was it. Flat. They didn’t play zombie video games all day and night and when they asked you how you were doing it was with a genuine sincerity. You can’t even greet brain-dead bozos now without grand surprise and bizarre suspicion. We’d strike up conversation anywhere, anytime. If you’re at a deli or a poolhall, what do you expect? ❤️
OMG I can't tell you how much I agree with what you say. The pre-computer/phone generation were interesting, had real life experience. I cannot fathom the blank expressions of today's youth. Who think in text speak. We have a sub human species in the young.
i strike up conversations with people on the street allll the time😅 i’m 35, so not that young lol but i’m loving in a not so socially happy country.. it’s actually a problem, all the shops on the street that i have to visit and wonderful people working in them.
i’m always late 😎 2 weeks ago, i was walking back home around midnight, it was so nice, so warm, finally! met some people at night, invited to mine, dancing, laughing lovely night. last weekend i was walking again, enjoying the city in the evening, stared talking, invited to their place, lovely night. but neither of us owned a tv so we had to be happy n social i guess
maybe it’s in the attitude? when i moved here i kept complaining about sad people and no social interactions and how they think i’m weird. decided to be weird then, and love the place now
have a great weekend 🌬🎈
Jungs theory of the shadow is very similar to Freud’s theory of the “id” in a roundabout way they figured out the same thing. If you trigger someone with the depths of their psyche they are going to react negatively, often very devilish. God I love psychology. I know mixing Freud and Jung is sacrilegious in a lot of ways, but that’s just uncanny.
They worked together.
Jung was a student of Freud. They disagreed on a few things later but Jung's work is grounded in Jungian theory
@@samuelreyes5546 Makes sense really
@@samuelreyes5546 Wouldnt say disagree. Jung had a more abstract approach, Freud had a logical approach.
Freud treated people like animals, Jung treated people as humans.
@@heiro9611 Jung's approach was grounded in the culture. So using him as a reference, is only applicable, to Christian values.
Freud's work was grounded in "maternal instincts", "born instincts"," motivation" and "male sex drive".
Both did the same work, the difference is the analogies.
Jung had a more humane approach.
The ability to realise and accept hard truths about yourself is the cornerstone of growth.
Admitting to someone you’re wrong and then apologising is a skill of greatly value and sadly not enough people possess.
Grandma's Shadow: Been in Tartarus
Carl Jung: BABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYBABYYEEEEAAHHH!!
*proceed to shoot his own head*
I've been waiting for this
Inesperado 😂
Jung really was something else...
I could listen to her all day..what a character 😂 they don’t make ‘em like that anymore!!
He thought you would be calling shortly
Amazing... How did he know?
@@LL-bl8hd I suspect that if you have a deep knowledge of how people work, you develop a professional intuition about how certain things will unfold in someone’s mind and how long that unfolding will take. It could be that she left some hints in one or several of her letters too. Probably not psychic, if that’s what you were thinking.
@@Oldmanbraun Jung had mentioned that he "had a great deal of intuition". He said it in the following interview, 27:27 ruclips.net/video/2AMu-G51yTY/видео.html&ab_channel=KidMillions
Jung is the Aizen of psychology
He was a genius and inspires me everyday. I'm glad I learned about him so early on. Her saying that he was expecting her made me laugh he was that witty!
This just made my night, I love it. Blessed be the name of they who seek to establish peace and love, healing and truth
She nailed it when she said it's the opposite of "poor little me".. feeling sad feels good. Feeling mad, for me, used to feel good. Now i am blank and confused. I am mad at myself for destroying the beautiful time given to me by my family.. I have been selfish
Some of our biggest lessons we teach to ourselves.
Love yourself Now, and move Forward (not move on)!
We sometimes seek superiority or righteous in our indignation towards others. Our relationships are usually mixed bag of good and bad behaviors. So, being hung up too much on others' faults comes from forgetting about our own mistakes. Self reflection can alleviate this situation. However we also need returning or repentance from our mistaken ways and absolve ourselves of past mistakes or else we can get stuck in the past. God is accepting repentance and forgiving sins directly without intermediaries. No one can pay or get punished for the sins of another.
You're not alone. I'm 52 and my elderly parents have suffered because of me. It hurts. It should do too...
"Sometimes I go about in pity for myself, all the while a great wind carries me across the sky."
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I want to note that this kind of introspection and most of all admitting it to yourself and everyone else out loud is not something everyone is ready to do. It ain't easy to admit your own faults and even laugh at them. That's something I'm going through, too. Respect to her for that.
It takes a lot of Humility to unlearn the arrogance we’ve always confronted life and knowledge with.
That's partly why getting into heated arguments is part of the job of an analyst. People get into heated arguments when the things they are touchy about are touched on. And that's exactly where the shadow projection or the repressed and threatening but misunderstood truth lies.
Angry arguments are gold in therapy.
@@adamryan5275 so true! A lot of people respond to embarrassment with anger
@@Hamppariranskis Yeah. I suppose we're all guilty of it at some point or another.
@Heloise O'Byrne Sure.
Profoundly great to watch one of Carl's patient testimony.
Why is it so hard for people to recognize their own insignificance? Once I realized that I am a nameless, faceless peasant in the vast flow of human history, it relieved all my anxieties about myself. I realized I will be gone and forgotten before I know it! What a relief! I feel for the poor narcissist who still believe so deeply in their own self importance, what a burden.
the problem is the rest of the world doesn't see it that way. see: victimless crimes aka drug laws.
Yes I had to realize I’m just a spot on the map. Most people don’t know about me and never will. Whew!
@@Kerrviii yet the laws dictate you don't own your own body through taxes, drug laws, and according to some, abortion laws. how you can ever be at ease with yourself when the law doesn't allow you to be a free, actualized being?
@@AustinKoleCarlisle I understand exactly what you mean, especially because I am poor and live in the United States. But for me, if I die penniless on the street, if I starve, if I get shot, or however I end up, it’s ok, because even though I will have great physical pain and discomfort, and great sadness over losing friends and loved ones, I do not have the added existential anguish of “oh why me?”. It just happens to be me because the world we live in is a nightmare and it isn’t likely to get much better. So I just have to accept with resignation my fate will likely be very bad. Some people have better life circumstances, able to deal with their social embededness, the fact we are all worker slaves who belong to elite corporations and oligarchic political masters. I just accept it and go numb. It’s the best way for me.
@@baizhanghuaihai2298 the greatest barrier in humanity achieving true enlightenment is government and central bank tyranny. they want us distracted, dependent, and unwilling to think for ourselves. until that problem is fixed, there will not be a "great awakening" as too many people are distracted by the hassles of everyday living when the reality is, a truly free market and hands-off government would have lowered the cost of living so much that most people could instead focus on improving their inner selves and helping others instead of being distracted by their circumstances and financial hardships, getting fooled by politicians who tell them what they want to hear like Bernie Sanders or other communists.
Thank you for posting this.There are so many wonderful interviews in "Matter of Heart," and this one is my favorite. Time to rewatch!
This video found me at the right moment. My shadow is "Nobody loves me" when I am upset and triggered and the real question is "Why don't you love anyone?"
That was phenomenal, thank you for posting this 🙏🏼💛
Great reflection!!
Shadow work is of essence to become real and truthful
I really needed to hear this woman’s experience. Can you imagine being able to have some challenging therapy with Jung, I feel up it for today!
I was straight up DYING, crackin up awkwardly in the middle of a cafe, as gramgramz related (with SO much joy) how she had taken the time and thought to send him venomous letters on a straight-up schedule 😂😂.
People’s behavior on the internet would not have surprised Jung one bit.
I love dying laughter in the middle of public spaces. Good times ☺️😇
Mr Jung's dedication and insight is part of the reason many of us are sober today. His contribution to the psychology behind addiction is beyond great.
Gabor Mate is another one.
@@Lyrielonwind absolutely
This lady is a paradigm to follow.
What a wonderful clip ! Absolutley love it
Best little clip ever 😆 I thoroughly enjoyed this!
Loved this! He thought she’d be calling him shortly..haha brilliant man. He’s one of my favorite thinkers.
She sounds no different than anybody in today's time.
She sounds sharp and articulate
Human nature is human nature. Our fundamental character hasn't changed much at all. In Evolutionary terms, psychologically we are still on the plains of Africa that our distant ancestors came from.
All healing is joining. Great clip, thank you!
Thank you for the subtitles
Yes when someone accuses you of being mean spend years writhing them angry mean letters. Genius.
That's great. I love how he knew she'd be breaking through soon.
The ending. Perfect.
What a legend
I love to see a humble person. It is truly refreshing.
This woman's personality is 🔥🔥😎👽
Amazing! Loved every moment of this, she's wonderful! lol
What an archive. This is great!!
absolutely amazed how in tune carl young was with himself and with the energies of those around him to the point that he knew when someone would phone him in.
that grin she had at the end gave me shivers and had me laughing.
She realized it and in the longer clip she accepts that she was the problem. She is good person, many would lash out
@@msunje9862 I think it is the goal of everyone to be self aware and be able to laugh at themselves, beyond the ego defence.
Yeah i started realizing after i was 17 that my excessive reactions were from an barrage at my character. One that i either denied or one i havent faced yet. It was a rough period of life prior to gaining that knowledge and having to adjust myself once i knew. Life becomes harder and easier at the same time.
Fascinating story. Thank you!
Thank you for sharing this. 😇🥰
She was strong to admit that he perhaps had a point! ❤
Oh man she’s great!
"I can lose 5 pounds I get so mad." I somehow can relate to that sentence.
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves,”...... Carl Jung
It is buddhism.
I was hypnotized for my first time 2 weeks ago.. In this experience, I came to find and meet my Erebus, my Shadow.. Face to face. It wasn't threatening... More... Primitive. Like a Shaman who had entered a trance... The Erebus looked like an amalgam of abstract black lines going to and fro without pattern, but it made the outline of me.. It was the shape of me, made entirely of black lines going everywhere randomly, incredibly fast... I can't explain it.
If anyone's interested, I'll type out what I experienced. I'm experimenting with my Psyche, and Synchronicity...
Iam interested, by the way can u explain how do you experiment with your psyche? What do you do? Explain please. :D
Tell us more :)
@@chudobnyahlupy Researching information brought to me via-Synchronicity, hypnosis, & (semi-controlled) induced disassociation and mania. It has lead me to many pragmatic benefits.. Opportunistically (financially) and cognitively. It is somewhat akin to what Jung did to himself.. Though I am 22, and… Different.
Hello there... sounds like you had a meeting with the shadow as the “guardian of the threshold”, where it can appear visually/auditory as a kind of astral entity. James and I work with a grounded and tantric practice through the body, so we have met strong angles of the shadow directly through interactive process as well as passing lower emotive/thought patterns through the actual body, in a psycho-physical sense. Can be quite painful to pass it through directly but it’s a very direct process to integrate in a way that is sustainable and most practical in terms of authentic individuation.
Thanks for sharing!
@@CoreIntegrity I am not done investigating.. I will continue. I know I will find the interrelation of mythology, parapsychology, philosophy, intellectuality - I just.. Have to continue searching. More over I have to continue acting. Projecting my will into my everyday interactions, consciously.. One day I will find the answers to this mysterious Monomyth..
This so true I used to think everybody is against me then I started being more patient and nice and suddenly not everybody is an asshole I am thankful that I realised this when I am still young and haven’t lost so much because of my anger sure I still get angry sometimes but it’s getting better with time
I love this honesty
Self awareness, vulnerability, honesty, courage… I adore her!
Why is this video so damn special?
I know you can all feel it too
She's being truthful and funny. She's laughing at her anger.
The kicker is when she says at the end, "Oh Yes, Professor Jung to me to save some time for you, he thought you'd be calling shortly", after it took her a year. 😂 What a great story telling she is.
Nicely summed up by my father when he used to look at me and comment with a discreet smile after triggering someone, "looks like we touched a nerve".
Oh, this is beautiful!
Love this ♥️
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Yep that is the shadow in a positive expression when accepting self. Uncontrolled childlike expressions that make them look totally not like themselves when serious. I can already tease that out in people and even myself, just need to know them enough.
Epic!!! Lol the punchline...you knew it was coming, but still how great.
Nice little clip. Interesting. Thanks for uploading.
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In the second session he made her say that he is right xD
what?
So THIS is why everybody dislikes me! I'm simply direct, which triggers their shadow for their own good, so they can self-reflect! How good of me!
...jk I'm a prick lol
both can be true, and you can learn to weave between them, dancing along the narrow curvy middle path
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Rationality does indeed tend to attract rabid opposition from brainless idiots, so you're not necessarily incorrect. At the same time, you might just be looking at a mirror of your own dislike for the world, so beware of your own perceptions.
Oh shit we are twins
@@skoggo6409 True. Or, I may be speaking in jest and not from experience. The world may never know. I am a prick though.
🤯 Her last sentence gave me goosebumps.
That evoked a knowing laugh. Thank you!