PP Treatment for Discus Fish || Gill Flukes Treatment || Potassium Permanganate Treatment
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Potassium Permanganate is a very useful thing in the hobby. Especially if you are keeping Discus Fish. Its a very good is a very good disinfectant. Good to Treat Gill Flukes..
Do Not use HEATER... PLEASE BE CAREFUL
Take 2 grams of Potassium Permanganate and add to 1 liter of normal water and make a concentrate solution. After the PP is dissolved well ... Take 1 ml per 1 Liter of tank water volume... So if your tank is 100 litres you need to add 100 ml of Potassium Permanganate concentrate solution.
Please be very cautious while doing this treatment. Please do this when you are at home.
Hope you like this Video
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Rahul
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#fwrapperaqua #discusfish #pptreatment
Your last words in the video" they are happy, im happy"! Loved it man, thank u for the useful video
Thank you... Like I said in this video. Please be very careful while do this treatment...
@@FwrapperAqua sure
@@FwrapperAqua ,,, WHAT PRECAUTION
Hi Rahaul, Nasir sent me here and he thanks you so much for your generous help and assistance with his new Discus tank. Subbed :)
Hi Colin... I am just happy to help...
@@FwrapperAqua A pleasure to meet you ☺
@@FwrapperAqua I have linked your channel in my new video out this week. ☺
I have subscribed to your channel...looking forward to the video
Hi Rahul I have recently started following you and like your videos. Keep up the good work. Your process and methods are more feasible for me because the resources you use are pretty easily available.
I have a question regarding this video. You mentioned about cleaning all sponge filters and everything then drying under sun. What about the good bacteria’s. Under sun all the good bacteria’s won’t survive. How are you planning to manage that.
Hi.. Thanks a lot.. Yes everything will be gone... So we are starting off fresh.. You will need to use quick start or secheam stability to start the tank... Because if you put back the same thing.. Then all bad and good bacteria is coming back
Fwrapper Aqua Thanks for replying. So are you suggesting that we can make a fresh start with seachem stability and there is no need to cycle the tank. If so can we introduce fish right away without cycling. Will it not cause some ammonia spike or something along those line.
@@avishekroy6060.. New fish without quarantine I will never recommend... But the whole idea is you do this so nothing from the old parasites are left over... See products like stability and quick start are meant for these... Completely new tank I would not recommend... See we are not completely emptying the tank.. And fishes are still there so the beneficial bacteria build up is faster.. Which is not the case with a completely new tank.. Hope I have answered your question 😊😊
Fwrapper Aqua Got you... Thanks for clearing the air...
Thank you for all the information its priceless thanks so much
Great video on PP. However you can leave the filter media in the tank (k1 and carbon needs to be removed). I do this treatment once every 6 months. Also API General Cure for parasites. I would highly recommend this if your discus is breathing heavy.
Thanks bro
Wow you have so many discus fry down there!
Yes bro... 😊😊
With this method, aren't you going to kill off your beneficial bacteria? Great informative video by the way! My PP already arrived as well. Thanks
Yes you are starting of fresh.. Everything is cleaned out...
@@FwrapperAqua Thanks for the reply bro.. If so, can you please elaborate your process on how you build up your BB again? Or maybe do a video on how you go through the process of cycling (hope you don't mind)?
Of course the bio load after this will be in consideration. Sorry to ask a lot but a lot people will benefit from the process your going to take after the PP bath that includes me. Thanks
@Fwrapper Aqua, bro care to share your process on building back your beneficial bacteria after the PP treatment?
Thank you so much sir, there is no medicine in market like this I tried on my one discuss fish and got a result like nothing.... Same day my discuss start to take food.....
You are welcome 😇😇😇
Please help me...
My discuss is fasing cloudy eye problem in his both eye..
Please please reply...
Very informative video and lot of hardwork 👍👍
Thank you so much.. Please do watch my video on pp treatment in detailed..
Rahul I would like to request you as keeping discus fish is challenge but perfect and complete information it will be easy for discus lovers to keep discus healthy..... Please make a video on discussion issue pepering and other how to treat and what is pepering it will be seriously useful thank you
Yes bro working on it.. That video is coming soon
You have made a very interesting point in this video, feeding GHM / BHM can cause infestation of parasites. Now that its been 3 years this video has been uploaded can you please tell me if that is true? Thanks!
If the food is not cleaned out of the tank and left to decay in the tank... It will create parasites... That is what I ment... Ghm and bhm are very good for Discus...
@@FwrapperAqua Thanks for the prompt response bro!
Tell us more about that filter with the white things, what makes them roll around and how did you build it? Great info.
Hi.. Actually that is my first video on RUclips.. Please check in my video list.. K1 Moving bed filter
Please explain more about your filteration and also about how do you do siphoning through auto or through motor. How did you took out so much water out so fast. Please guide.
Bro I just used a normal pipe... To remove water.... Please see our Video on aquarium filtration... I have explained everything
@@FwrapperAqua thanks
Rahul
I disagree with such doses of pp treatment, if any one ( new hobbiest ) add more pp solution in tank then Discus gill will burn & they die immediately as you aware
Better to advice one stoke solution
2 gram for 1 liers of water & make pp solution
Whenever you want to treatment then take 1ml solution for 1 liters of water, if 100 liter tank then take 100 ml.
4 to 8 hours treatment is fine for them
Also keep ready Hypo to neutralize the pp effect if you fine anything wrong in fishes behavior
Hydrogen perocside aslo can be used to neutralize the pp effect
OK... I will add this in the video description... But still there will be people doing thinks that you cannot imagine... Anyways thanks for the update..
How to you hydrogen peroxide please suggest
Great video! Would you do a video on tank disinfection using Kings Water Systems? We make a hand held machine that creates ozone , hydrogen peroxide and chlorine. It is designed to not only kill all bacteria but reduce orders and tastes.
hi bro
1-after every 3 month we must do pp treatment?
2-after we add pp to tank as you say
how long time need be spend to change 80% of water?
after we add new water to tank , when we must change and how much the water ?
tnx for your answe
You can do pp if you are facing any issues... After 4 hours you can change the water... Please see the video description for dosage details... Please observe them very closely when you add pp... If they are feeling uncomfortable please immediately change water
I have a problem with one of my turquoise discus seems like she gets dark when being around with the other discus I take her out and place her in a quarantine tank and she starts getting colors back after 15 days of water change I put her back with the others and gets dark levels on the tank are great I don’t know if it might be since I do have a pair in there that might be bulking her can u help
Hi... See sometime they change color either when they are in stress or when they are pairing up or during breeding.... Some fishes can have some infection it can be because of that too.. Or if the fish is weak the others are bulling her... So I need to see a video of the tank only then I can say anything
Great vid if you clean filters and dry in sun what do you use for beneficial bacteria ? What am I missing?
Yes you are killing everything and starting fresh.. Because all these parasites will be stuck on the filteration also.. So if you do it only for the fishes and put back the same filter everything is coming back into the tank
Thx so much best information concerning discus on you tube :)
Hello rahul I like your all videos. Your videos are full of good knowledge about carring discuss. I would like to know about how to identify male and female discuss. Can you plz help me with this...
Thank you 😊
Nitesh.
Thank you... That even I don't know bro... That's one thing I don't bother.. I leave them to pair up on their own...
@@FwrapperAqua Thank you for replying ..
Also I would like to buy 1" discuss babies in mix strains (mix lot) good quality - 1 to 2 dozens quantity can you help me with any reference. As I am staying in Mumbai.
@@niteshmore7736 I will not recommend buying a mixed batch in that size.. Because cross contamination is a big issue... And you might not get good results... Better buy 2 inch plus if you are starting about 6 to 10 nos same batch and grow them out... It will be better
@@FwrapperAqua Thank you..
hey Rahul, appreciate your effort to help out fellow hobbyists. If you have a link handy where to get this online would be great. Thanks.
Thank you... Bro potassium Permanganate is available in most of the general medical shops
One of my discus showing heavy breathing and its one gill closed and other opens heavyly as shown in ur video.She is also hyper active.So i give pp treatment yesterday.only mild pink colour.After 4 hrs i changed water 80%.But today also she showing same symptoms.Can i give next treatment today or tomorrow?
Thanks...very useful knowledge.... another thing I want to know....same pp treatment cab be use for Angeles?
I have never tried it on angels
Okk
Thanks for upload the video
hi bro, I have 4 pair of discus 2 of them have black spot on their skin. how can I solve this problem? please help me
It is called peppering... It can be due to stress, excess lightning.. Bad water,.. Tank mates
My fishes have same problem I think this is beacause my discuss fights can you give me suggestion how to stop them from fighting@fwrapperaqua
You described it very well. I would appreciate if you can let me know how to do pp dosing in a planted discuss tank. Please spare little time to reply.
With planted tanks pp is very dangerous because your entire plantation might get destroyed... So please don't try it...
Hi Rahul, thanks for video, it is really very useful.
I just need small information, one of my discus is getting black is it ok to give PP bath, also is it good for internal parasites?
I cannot say anything without seeing the fish.. Please post a video of your fish on our Facebook page Fwrapper aqua or send me an email on fwrapper.aqua@gmail.com
Love your vids... Make one about co2
thanks bro... CO2 system i am slowly investing ... will take some more time,... but will get it soon
Hi rahul, I was thinking of moving an Angelfish which has grown big and not fit at it's recent tank to my 200 L discus community tank. The reason I'm growing these discus is to breed them. I would like to know if moving that angelfish with discus fishes would cause any problem to them? If it's ok to move the Angelfish, kindly inform me the quarantine process.
See quarantine may not be required as the angel fish was in your house only... But putting angels with Discus is not a good idea.. Big angels get very aggressive and which might scare your Discus.. So you will have to put them together and see..
Just waiting for this video. ...
Thanks bro
Very helpful video...thanx a ton... just one question...why don't you use hydrogen peroxide after treatment before the water change??
Hydrogen peroxide is good for a wound on the fishes body on a specific place ... This is a generic pp treatment...
Which is the floating filter has used in your aquarium. What is the benefit of it compared with other filters . Thank you
Please see my first video on RUclips.. K1 Media filter... All the details are there in that..
nice video bro
Thanks bro
Sir, plz provide details about quality of water, ph and which water shall we use and any conditioning .
I have made a video on water conditioning.. Please do have a look
Nice tutorial
Hi Sir
Have you used potassium permanganate with small discus about 30days old?
Could you use potassium permanganate with bettas as well?
Discus which are about 1 inch plus you can do a very mild pp treatment.. Very mild... Betta I don't think can take pp. I am not sure... Please check
Hi Rahul...
I understood why to wash the filter and put it back...
But how do we have beneficial bacteria if we do that
Just a doubt
You need to use some beneficial bacteria products to start the process again.. So it will be like a new tank
@@FwrapperAqua oh ... got it thank you..
Hi bro,
Hope u & ur pets are doing well.
My question is PP treatment is ok for planted tank? Because my discus tank is planted tank
Hi bro... I would not recommend to do pp treatment in a Planted tank... Some plants might not survive.. And also the pp will stuck to the substrate.. And will cause lots of issues... You may have to separate them in a hospital tank and do...
I think my flowerhorn has flukes as i found him scratching his body and shaking his head most of the times. If i will use this PP treatment can i run the water to my canister filter as well? (removing all medias/foams) to make sure that it gets sanitized as well ? and how many grams do you suggest i can use for a 50 gallon tank. I really appreciate your answer thanks a lot
It's good to do it... I have given the dosage in the video description.. Please do have a look... Please do pp treatment when you are at home... Never leave the the fish after adding pp.... Please be careful
Hi, even my flowerhorn keeps scratching against glass. Did you try this PP treatment to Flowerhorn?
Rabaul how many treatments for baby Discus 1 month or 2 Months weekly? Thanks
Rahul , I need help.... I have 1.5 feet fish tank in which I am having 6 koi , 1 angel and one discuss ..... Issue is my discuss is having black spots on his face and also a under mouth a patch..... Sometime it gets disappeared but also returns back.... Can you help out with it ?
Hi Akshay... Firstly your Discus is having peppering.. That is the black spots.. That is mainly due to stress.. Also in few varieties of Discus its more.. Secondly Discus is a schooling fish you need to keep them in a group of at least 6 to 8 nos.... Thirdly Koi fish and Discus fish very bad combination.. Fourthly in a 1.5 feet tank you have put so many fishes. The tank is over stocked.. Mainly one of the reasons for your Discus to be in stress... Please do little bit of research before mixing different types of fishes.. Because if you don't you are putting there life in danger...
Thanks for the advice brother I will look out for it
I have sand and driftwood in my aquarium how should I do pp treatment
No please don't...it's ideal for bar bottom tanks only... I have made a detailed video about pp... please do have a look
Thanks bro. I have a question what about about the good bacteria? I want to use this treatment but i am afraid to lose the good bacteria? Thank you
hi, do you know any medicine for gill flukes other than pp bath?
If your going to kill the beneficial bacteria by drying out your filter why not just just the filter during the pp treatment?
You can do that also.. No issues... But K1 and some varieties of sponge absorb pp.. And might change color
i removed my filter and treateda bare bottom tank with angelfish, but my permanganete turned brown in i guess less then 10 minutes, ... I wanted to do a 6 to 8 hours cure (2 mg/l which is a normal dosis), but the brown colour tells me the KMn04 was already worked out (in reaction with other organics ?) in about 10 minutes... I added more so it was a high concentration, but again KMn04 was turning brown after 15 minutes... I do not completely understand this, because it was a bare bottom tank with no organics in it.
No idea why that happened... May the pp was not good quality
Can I use this method for my German blue ram in a planted set up? I saw one of them breathing rapidly and looked up a thread that said pp bath helps. Kindly let me know what should be done in this case
Plz tell us about acriflavin medicine and how to use in discus fish deasease and in market suggest good brand for this medicine
Hi Rahul.. I wonder how often do you supposed to this potassium permanganate method??
Once in 3 to 4 months if you are feeding heart mix regularly
क्या ये other fishes के लिए भी किया जा सकता है क्या?
Bro.hai Rahul bai good information
Thank You
My discus tank is heavily planted. Can I do pp in same tank or in another tank.
If during pp the heater get turned off, than the temperature drops suddenly. Is it OK? In this case what is the minimum temperature.
And if I want to do pp and deworming, then what schedule should I follow.
Please guide me.
Pp in a Planted tank is not recommend.. Plants will get effected
Heater has to be removed.. I have mentioned it th video also.. Because oxygen level drop with pp
Between both the treatment give at least 1 week gap... Let them get some rest and recovery time
Thank you dear.
Mera 4 feet ka Aquarium h usme Namak wala Pani h To
Namak wale Pani me isko use kr sakte hai kya ,?????
Saltwater water tank Mai pp usage ke bare me muje uttna idea nahi Hai
@@FwrapperAqua Oo
Itsok👍
@@FwrapperAqua Accha ye bataiye Agar mai thoda sa PP use karu kisi bhi fresh water tank me to kya kuch der baad water change krna Zaruri h ya phir aysahi rehne de 🤕,,,?????
@@wasilkhan1687 yes... Very important to do water change... Please see video description for dosage details
I am going to do PP treatment in my tank as u shown.
Please understand the problem what you are facing and then do pp treatment... You will hurt your fishes... Please be careful
hi rahul , just wanted to know i have parrots pacus green terrors flowerhorn in a community can i use a small portion of potassium permangante for prevention of internal parasites . look forward to hear from you
PP is for external infection.. Not for internal.. For internal you need to do metronidazole treatment
Please make video on, how to cure black papering on discuss fish?
Causes
Remedies
Thank you...
Hi... Bro peppering in Discus is because of high stress levels... I have made so many videos on Discus.. Recently I have made a video on how to keep Discus... Once there is no stress... No peppering.. It's very simple bro
@@FwrapperAqua I have 5 discuss fish in my tank. All fish are eating and swimming smoothly. When I were bought them (10 ruppee dollor size) from that time they having this black papering on their bodies.
Please help me out with this situation.
* I have white pigeon discuss.
Thank you.
OK.. Please send me your number to fwrapper.aqua@gmail.com I will call you..
Nice, how to treat white feces in discus pls?
Hi.. I have already made a video on that.. Look for metro treatment in my video list
Fwrapper Aqua ok thank you for reply
Guide me on the filter in this tank. Which and how to buy this filter from.
PP bath every 2 to 3 months? Seems excessive PP is very hard on them.
For some reason, when I use PP treatment, it turns brown right away. I use seachem Safe on my water tank and we have chlorine and cholomine, how can I do a proper PP treatment since I can't use straight tap water with no chlorination? I've done it before and was able to keep it a light pink. Any suggestion?
Seachem safe or prime will reduce the effectiveness of pp.. So it becomes brown... You will need either ro water or uv purified water to do pp treatment
These can't kill anchor worms
Hey Rahul,
My discus is laying down from 2 days now.
What should I do?
What about Hikari Prazi pro? I have used it successfully for flukes it is pricey though
Hi bro im from Malaysia just wna ask which is the best way after doing PP..water change or just add Hydrogen Peroxide? Tq
Water change any day is the best... Because if you add little excess of hydrogen peroxide.. It can kill your fish instantly
@@FwrapperAqua Thanks alot bro for the info coz i want to do the PP bath for the 1st time this coming weekend due to my fish always flashing thanks again bro🙏 have a great day
Welcome... Please do watch my video on pp treatment dosage... I have explained it in detail
@@FwrapperAqua ok boss sure
everytime i move my fish to main tank after treating it for hexamita it gets hexamita again because of what i want to remove all fish and kill all bacteria in tank with this pp i cant keep it for long time so what will be perfect dosage tank without fish?
what about the beneficial bacteria built up in the filter...? that would die off to if u dry everything out..
Yes it will.. It's like a fresh start...
@@FwrapperAqua what's the point of doing that...? you already have an established tank which helps down breaking the ammonia to nitrites then nitrates...if your going to dry out everything the ammonia build up when u start fresh will obviously be high since ur beneficial bacteria's dead which creates a risk for your fish.... so what i m basically sayin is the idea of drying out the filter isnt really a gud idea
Sir how many time pp tritment in munth
Please do treatment only if it's necessary.... I have made a detailed video about pp after this video... Have explained everything.... please don't do it every month 🙏
How do you recommend pp clean a newly made aquarium?
I always do that for all my aquariums
Moving bed filter i meant
That is my first video on RUclips... K1 moving bed filter... Please do have a look
Hi Rahul,
My tank goes from pink to brown tan in just 30mins while doing PP for my FlowerHorn. Does it mean my PP solution is less concentrate? In this case can I add more PP solution when it turns brown until 4hrs is complete from the start?
I effect of the pp reduces when there is lots of things or substance are there in tank that we cannot see.. ... If you wipe out the glass and do a big water change and repeat pp after 3 to 4 days the pink will remain for longer...
@@FwrapperAqua Thanks for the reply Rahul, I will try doing it as advised
Hi Rahul, I tried doing the PP after a big water change and this time the PP was active for longer time, But for some reason my FH (4 to 5 inch) was becoming little uncomfortable after one hour. It was shaking its head and trying rub its gills on the tank bottom moderately frequent. I was kind of scared seeing it and quickly ended the treatment. After that the fish was fine for all fine for 3 to 4 days and I was about to shift it to my display tank tomorrow. However suddenly the gill fluke is back on today again. One gill is shut and other one is opening wide. This time I used Paracidol medicine as I was not in a situation to give a PP treatment immediately.
Actually wanted to understand what is the root case for this disease. Would it be my water source ? I was taking extra care for last two weeks by siphoning the bare bottom tank two times a day ever since the fish was put in the hospital tank.
My water source is bore well with TDS 200ppm and PH 8.3. I age it for a week in a tub before use. Should I switch to a RO system? Could you please help me with your suggestion
Sir i wanna ask you that how many fry did u get from one batch on average?
A good breeding pair you should get about 150+.. Out of which about 70% should survive.. If taken care well
i am plaining to get my 1st group of discus when should i give them pp bath ,within 1st week?
hi rahul ji
I want use my old sponges
i put in pp
after it
i rinsed the sponges several times
Again, they have a slightly pale pink tinge
Is it okay if I put it in the aquarium
I would suggest you dry it in the sun well... And then use it
@@FwrapperAqua tnkx sir
what are those white stringy things that are floating inside the tank?
Scaling that come out of the tank once we wipe the glass
Bro is potassium permaganate good for silver arowana. Is salt treatment good for silver arowana. Please reply because I am going to buy one.
Bro I have never kept an arowana.. So no idea...please check with some expert before trying anything
@@FwrapperAqua Thanks bro
Hi. When does the drug work?
sir what to do in case of a overdose?
Sir, what is the time duration doing PP treatment for discus fly tank and breeding tank?
Maximum 3 to 4 hours.. But please observe the fishes.....be very very careful
@@FwrapperAqua thank you sir
Sir my discus fish is not eating so what should i do on it pleas give me the answer
So basically our nitrogen cycle also will be distributed right?
Yes.. Only then your entire tank is wiped out with all the parasites.. Or they will come back into the tank from your filters
Will that not destroy the entire cycling bacteria
Yes it will.. its like starting fresh.. only then all the parasites will be removed
for babies do we use same dosage?and which age we will use for babies?
No... You can do pp only after 1 inch Size... Please see the video description for dosage details
Fwrapper Aqua if babies start dies from gill flukes (one months syndrome)what we can do?
Filter system should be stop or on??
Go check pp treatment from discus jack watley discus legend u can put pp in sump or filter and make it mix properly instead of doing this mixing improperly
OK... If you have seen that Video.. Do let me know the exact measurement of Hydrogen Peroxide he is adding into the tanks to remove the pp from the tanks...? Looking forward to hear from you
My fish attack whitepop disease. Please help me for treatment method.
Sir can I do this PP treatment for my chichld tank if yes then how many ML of PP should I use in a 250 liter tank ?
Please make hindi version of this video
Can i apply it on angel and parrot fish
Bro I have never tried it on any other fishes... i dont keep these both fishes so i am not sure
Sir can this pp bath be used to cure gill fluke in African chichlids????Pl reply
I have never kept cichlids.. So no idea if we can give pp bath for them.. Please check
Ok thank you sir
Hello my discus fish all are stress and fungus how to care plz suggest me
Hi.. Stress can be because of so many issues.. Please send me your number to fwrapper.aqua@gmail.com I will call you...
Can v do this treatment to gold fish also ?.. I have parasites on my gold fishes too
Bro I have never tried it on any other fishes... i dont keep them so i am not sure
Bro how to treat cloudy eye in discus?
what about benificial bacteria
I seen one expert guy use Hydrogen Peroxide for clear water after use PP.Is it ok or not?
I have never tried it.... So no idea
@@FwrapperAqua Thanks.
hi, my friend, I am watching your youtube video
but some video you don't put subtitles. your accent is heavy please don't forget subtitles
I don't add subtitles.. RUclips does it on its own....
Fwrapper Aqua and how you do pp for fry?
I have given details in the videos description.. Please do have a look
Sir I've plants and rock in my tank. Should i have to remove the plants and rocks before doing this treatment?
Yes very much... Or your plants will get spoiled.. Also I will not advise this treatment in a Planted tank... What is the issue?
@@FwrapperAqua I saw few anchor worm on my fishes. So I'm afraid if it spread in the whole tank.
What fishes do you have in this tank?.. And what is your water change schedules
@@FwrapperAqua goldfish and angel.
I change 80% water every weekend and just use water conditioner in it.
Do we have to add rock salt when we change water
No not required.. Because if you do so simply you will increase the water TDS to very high levels
What the dosage for 10 litres or 20 litres hospital tank brother ?
Please see the video description for all the details
@@FwrapperAqua Thank You 😊
should we remove the substrate also?
See its easy to do PP treatment in a bare bottom tank... removing out all the substrate will stress the fishes completely...
Can pp treatment be given to goldfish as they are the most infected fish in the fish shop ???