Raising Baby Discus: Preventing the 30 Day Syndrome
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- How do you stop the infamous 30-day syndrome when raising baby discus fish? We use potassium permanganate. In our hatchery we have a 200-gallon system and based on my measurements, we use two grams for the entire system. We're going to show you how we do it in our system but remember one thing - this is for the professionals and your measurements will be different.
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I haven't seen such a genuine person sharing his knowledge with all the hobbyist
How long does a discus pair breed in its lifetime...does it breed for 1-3 yr or like 10-20 times in life???plz ans...
@@nikhilparab07 15 weeks a year for lifetime of 10 yearspan
The best information on RUclips or anywhere for that matter on how to successfully keep and breed Discus thanks for sharing your knowledge Gabe
For home hobbyists, you can just use hydrogen peroxide. It is an oxidizer like PP but a bit safer and doesn't stain. I dose 5ml/10 gallons. You can kill fish if you dose too much.
Really helpful for me..Allah why you didn't show me this video in last 16 years. I really need that raw cheap medicine for my discus and Horn.
Hello everyone! Hope someone can help. I have a 90 liter aquarium with discus fry. How can I calculate, in European standards how much pp I should use and how much I have to add to the 1 liter bottle and how many ml I should add to the aquarium? Hope somebody can help me out. 1 fry is already dead.. 😭
Excellent tutorial on the medicine!
I enjoyed watching! Thank you for sharing!
Gracias!
Waiting for your new video, english version gabe..... make videos regarding fry attaching to albino discus. Thx for ur genuine vidos
Thanks sir...your video is very helpful it teaches stuffs which no one says and that too in such a simplified manner 🙏🙏 from INDIA.
Thanks gabe! You are amazing my friend!
Thankyou.
Sir kindly make a video of treating planted discus tanks with potassium permanganate, and tell us the proper dosage of PP which will not damage the boilogical filters🙏
When should i do first pp treatment for discus fry...
Thanks Gabe. You are doing a lot for the hobby.
No.1 on RUclips! Thank you for your Videos.
Always appreciate your honesty and support Gabe, thanks alot.
Hey Jack, can someone buy much younger discus from you for cheap.
Let's say 1month old at $10-$15 a piece.
This guy is great
Can methylene blue do the same?
Thank’s very much for that very important information!
What ‘s the percentage of the peroxide?
Thank’s once more, master!
Here's a dosage.
2gm for 200 gallon = 10mg for gallon.
Use in your own risk.
how much hydrogen peroxide ?
@@thani9826 8-35 ml of 3% solution of hydrogen peroxide per 50 liters of water seems to be the safe range when doing a little bit of research (but problebebly not enough). But doing it in a bare tank whit no algae and whit sensetive fishes like discuss I would assume you would have to be on the lower side of the scale. Seem to be a fair bit to take into consideration for getting a fair answer
Can you please explain if the beneficial bacteria that is in the sump also gets killed? Do you need to worry about cycling the tank again to prevent ammonia spike?
Such treatments do not work in established tanks, because it will oxidize and kill all organic stuff and waste between plants, rocks, substrate, bacteria in your filter, dead plant leafs,........ Therefore you can not calculate a ppm solution to dose in an established tank, you can only treat with this method in bare tanks
while treating with potassium permanganate, does it kill the good bacteria in the sump ??
Gabes the best !!
Hi Gabriel.thank you for your information. I m from Vietnam
...you are the man bro... / ...tu eres un caballo hermano...
Hi Gabe! Incredible! Already did the math for a 75 gallon tank... thanks so much. Love your channel and your facility! Oh yeah, especially your fish!
Hi, how many grams then? TIA
@@rmmc5554 That's not the issue. One gram per 100 gallons equals .75 grams for 75 gallons. The issue is Permanganate kills everything including your nitrifying bacteria. Commercial guys can use the stuff because they do MASSIVE water changes CONSTANTLY.
do you sell
potassium G?
So if you use hydrogen peroxide do you still do water change or just leave hydrogen peroxide and same water in there ? Thx
Hydrogen peroxide removes all remnants of the brown after the water changes
Buenas noches, soy un principiante de discos y la verdad me parece muy buenos vídeos y bien explicados. El único inconveniente que no entiendo inglés y me cuesta mucho intuir lo que explicas. Tienes vídeos en Español y son buenísimos, por favor hazlos en los dos idiomas. Gracias y un saludo desde España
El mismo en Español sale en tres días. Estamos haciendo todos lo vídeos en los dos lenguajes
What is the dosage calculator? Do you have any quantities for smaller tanks? Also do I need to remove any media from the external filtration or will it treat everything? I’ve got the fry in a 65 L aquarium, but over the last five days I’ve lost around 50 fry. I have potassium per magnate, but cannot find any dosage quantities.
Hi Gabe,
For keeping discus not breeding, Do i need for this pp, and if yes is there any substitute easy ready medicine eg. Seachem, tetra....
I think you in hatchery you need this pp but fir us we are hobbiest owing one tank with fishies.
Thanks Gabe,
So according to the video footage..for 100 gallon = 1 gram of Potassium permanganate. For 150 gallon = 1.5 grams. For 50 gallons = 0.5 grams. And if we canister filter and not sump, then directly in the tank?. And how much hydrogen peroxide per 100 gallons of water. Your footage is always reliable and compact with knowledge based information. Thank you sir.
Thanks for sharing guys. (L)
I have a little sistem at home, almost 450L. How should I calculate the dose of permanganate and H2O2?
3.785 liters per gallon. Our system is 200 gallons
1 gram per 379 liters
Got my answer too 😃😃
Why the colour come brown the soon I put into the aquarium? No purple at all. Thank you!
Gabe, thanks for sharing this information.
My Flowerhorn fish is behaving very lethargic and keeps sitting at bottom or at top.
He is not eating since last 10 days.
I added about 1 mg of PP in a 1 gallon bucket and kept the fish in it for 20 minutes with good airation.
The water was still purple but I removed the fish.
Is it the right way? How often should I repeat this process and for how long?
Please guide.
Irfan Moosani it’s for the experts not the home guy!
Nice video posada!
Hola Gabriel, te hago una consulta, soy de argentina y aca manejamos litros no galones, segun lo que decis en el video, en 200 galones, que serian 760 litros aprox, pones 2g de PP, lo cual haciendo la cuenta, me da en 100 litros unos 0,26g de PP. Pero segun lo que agregaste en tus respuestas (Make a stock solution. 22 grams PP to 1 liter of water. Then use 1cc/5 gallons of water.) haciendo las cuentas aprox me da que en 100l de agua con esta solucion ingresaria 0,11g de PP. Como es el doble de PP te consulto para no hacer macanas!! desde ya muchas gracias por enseñarnos! saludos Ariel.
Si tienes sistema usa esta fórmula.so no lo tienes usa la de la solución.
So gabe said once a week so does this mean when your fry are 1 week old start using pp treatment????iv just lost a full batch
wow.... U r the Boss ...!!!!
Hello bro..i hv situation.. when fry 3 weeks.. start died n last no 1 left...what solution for this problem... Water parameter 100 ppm- 200 ppm.. ph range 6.8-7.5.. temp 32°c
How to treat single 50 liter capacity tank with pottasium permaganate
Use a pinch of pp in a jug of aquarium water. Stir it well. Try pouring the mixture in your tank bit by bit. Until the water turns purple.
Tk you for the wealth of info you are giving us, may I ask how we can do it at home and if I can use it to clean bio media, driftwood, etc. asking cause I'm setting 1k gal tank and I'm using same media from my old tank. Tks again
No need to desinfect if you're setting up new.
Will it kill BB in the sump and biological filters too? If yes, isi it ok for fishes?
I wanna know too
Dear Gabe, in this video why had chosen hydrogen peroxide option instead of a 90 percent water change?? Is there any specific reason for this??? Which option is better water change or hydrogen peroxide??
If the pp goes through the sump then it will also kill beneficial bacteria??
Thank-you for sharing this!!! Awesome video!!
Where does the potassium permanganate go after mixing the hydrogen peroxide?
It is neutralized with hydrogen peroxide
Thank you so much Gabe. God bless.
Thanks Gabe !👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌
Gabe iv been battling gill flukes for months and nothing is working so I'm goin to do a pp treatment wot % hydrogen Peroxide should I use please
Hi Gabriel. How many ppm dose is this? Like 2? 🐟 Thanks a lot for answering 🙏🏻
Well done Gabe! ure a Legend, mate!
what percentage of master hydrogen peroxide?
Gr8 information.
Do you do this as a preventative?
What's amount and % of hydrogen peroxide you use to neutralize the ppm. If your changing the water to remove coffee color do you do it over time or 100% .
Do you feed them for this treatment ?
When you add hydrogen peroxide to water that to deactivate the ppm would this kill your beneficial bacteria in sponge filter?
Could you do this on a single tank with no sump just sponge air driven filters?
Thank you Gabe.
We don't feed during the treatment. Anything organic deactivates the PP. We feed half an hour after the treatment. In two hundred gallons we use a.cup of H2O2
@@JackWattleyDiscus can this treatment kill the good bacteria also?
Best discus guy ever
Sir we can give pp bath for 45days discus fish frys because today one was fry died
Hi gabe can pp go through my sump or would it kill my bacteria
Lovely Gabe. Thanks mate
hello there sir
need one help
what to do in case u have overdosed pp to discus?
there slime coat has come of an are breathing at top of the tank
have already did a 80% water change
what is the concentration of hydrogen peroxide?
Thank you GABRIEL POSADA at Jack Wattley for sharing this. I have been using this system and my Discus do not have 4 week syndrome anymore. It took forever to learn this step by step from friends and the little i found to read about it, hence why I appreciate hearing it from you. Hardly any info about this magical treatment out there especially neutralizing with hydrogen peroxide.. Very much appreciated
No secrets any more. I am here to promote the hobby not bury it.
@@JackWattleyDiscus That is correct and I know this as all your videos including metro, lowering PH and lots more you have shared is some of the hardest things i have hard to learn in this hobby over the years, hearing you explain so well instills the confidence to go ahead with what I do and correct, perfect, what I am doing. Really wish I met you a few years back :) Thank you kindly
@JackWattleyDiscus once the fry are 1 week old start pp treatment every week????that right?iv just lost a full batch off over 100 so need info
I have a question about when exactly should I start the treatment for young discus at what age? thank you
Thx mate.. u r an angel on this aquatic world..
When we do PP bath, sponge filter needs to remove ????
Hi brother,
I have a discus with finrot. I have treated it with pp two days ago after that it become little improvement but still not taking feed. Can I move it to main tank. Pls suggest me a good idea.
Pp for fin treatment won't work
Im trying to learn everything b4 I order my discus....how would u treat a 55g with this?
Make a stock solution 28 grams to 1 liter of water. From this stock solution use 5CC per 25 gallons.
Excelente encontrar los vídeos en español e inglés
Me podría pasar el link en español
Hi Gabe, I've heard from other sources a good method is to 1st treat the parents with Prazi and wait for a new, clean batch of fry. What are your thoughts on that approach?
We treat the breeding section weekly as well. But you can never fully eradicate. Regardless of what you use.
Hello, is this method will kill the good bacteria also?
Hi sir i want to know that hydrogen peroxide which we get on medical store we can use that
Thanks Gabe!! You're a straight up good dude.
hello sir for a 75 gallon tank how much potassium permanganate do i need to use?
Make stock solution first. 11g to 500ml of water. Then add 1cc per 5 gallons of aquarium water.
@@JackWattleyDiscus thanks how about the rest of the stock solution can i store that?
@@bigboypablo yes
@@JackWattleyDiscus thanks so much
Very good video, but the potassium permanganate don't kill your sump benefical bacteria?
Not if you use it like I did. This way the reaction takes place in the aquarium and what goes down the overflow is already mostly deactivated
Thank you for sharing this information.
am really new to this hobby and your topic is really informative to us newbies. I actually had a flowerhorn but died few months ago due to fluke. I used liquid treatment like Prazi Gold but found no positive result from it and he got weaker and weaker as day went by and i feel so helpless about it. Ill gonna treat my whole tank including my canister filter with PP to kill those nasty parasites before I set it up again. Thank you Sir :)
Would PP treat internal Parasites ?
Thank you for these videos!!! It should be mentioned that potassium permanganate will also kill beneficial (nitrifying) bacteria.
I was thinking the same thing and assumed that it would not be recommend for a planted community tank.
With so much water change for baby fish, don't need any cycled filter.
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Hi Gabe! Is the potassium permanangate harmful for unhatched eggs?
No
@@JackWattleyDiscus Thank you again very much
Pls help discus dropsy medicine.
Doesn't this kill your filter?
He is the best person in RUclips for the fish keepers
Muchas gracias. Los disfrutaré mucho y aprenderé lo bonito del mundo del pez disco.
Will this hurt other fish in the tank?
Are we talking about a build up of good filter bacteria or a build up of the bad....?
Is too much Good bacteria a bad thing to have.....
Bad is bad and good is good
How old should the fry be before you attempt this treatment?
Gud day,sir!
What was the name of that hydrogen peroxide u used in ur tank to make it crystal clear?
3% any brand
Amazing
I like how you guys are not hiding trade secrets from everyone. Doesn’t PP kill the beneficial bacteria?
Not if used correctly. Listen to what I say in the video.
I’ve used this but will never use it in a system. Nice video
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Love from India
Hi Gabe. Do you feed the breeding pair through out the whole process of laying eggs, wigglers, and until separation from wigglers?
Absolutely, otherwise the spawn will become their food.
How do I get the measurement for a single tank treatment
Good morning everyone
15 babies die a day
Baby’s One month old
Ph = 5.5-6
TDS= 07
KH = 53-107
Cl. =. 0
Gh = 53
No2 = 0
No3 = 25
Food = baby’s brine shrimp (live food) and Chen’s
beef heart
Temperature 30.5
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How to use potassium permanganate in 18*18 inch breeding aquarium fish to avoid death rate of discuss babies if I don’t have these kind of advance system?
Make a stock solution. 11g per 500ml. Then use 1cc per 5 gallons of water.
Awesome work you guys thank you for video...
Me encantaría este video en español
Dame dos o tres días para subirlo
How old the baby when you put it
Does this good bacteria
Gabriel, does the PP not kill the anaerobic bacteria in your sump?
it will kill all bacteria. bacteria in a bio-film will not take such a heavy hit unless the treatment is done for the 3 consecutive days as he said. it will definitely knock back the bio-filter but the benefits of the treatment outweigh that.
Agreed with TT. Beneficial bacteria is important, but we should not exaggerate its function, they just eat poops, lower the n&n. If you keep changing water, you will be good.
Any treatment for Myxobolus cerebralis infection? Any preventive treatment?
Please advise.
Thank you so much for your generous posting, wish you and your team have a great holiday and brilliant 2022.👍👏
Thank you for your time.
Sir after mixing hydrogen porxide can live same water in tank without change water
I always do a 30% water change first and then add the H2O2