Agreed. Many just don't think of the fact that he lived at least two thousand years as a soldier of Viltrum Empire. Twenty years with change for his lifespan is like a less than a month to us. The fact that he's changing that much is a miracle. Edit: I am NOT saying that he is automatically a good guy now or that his atrocities are forgiven and forgotten. All I'm saying is people can change and have redemption for their deeds, and what defies you is not your past or words but your present and your actions. This is a world with intergalactic conflicts stretching close to ten thousand years. People can and will change their minds and make new alliances and new conclusions about life in general. So gradual redemption of some people doesn't seem unrealistic to me.
@@Pondero36basically a thousand years of indoctrination to an evil empire and only 20 or so years on earth has done so much to counter this indoctrination. Earth go crazy😂
@@johnjordan211 not necessarily defending he is still a bad guy at this point, and the stuff he did will never go away no matter how much good he does from now on but he did choose to become better when he could've just remained loyal to the Empire knowing that if not he would die also yeah his lifespan is crazy and after those years of evil it comes as a surprise those Viltrumites posses the ability to change for the better, so in the case of Nolan ig the best side with him is neutral for now atleast
this episode’s intro was absolutely beautiful, narratively and visually. you could feel omni man’s pain and sense of loss throughout the entire sequence
@@Untitled_-_Productions. I feel like it's more akin to the scene where Omni Man invades the Flaxan's dimension and destroys their civilization. Nolan's beard is a catalyst to good animation.
Steven Yeun’s acting in this was amazing as always, but this episode might have my favorite performances from him in the show so far. The incredible amount of emotion in “ A mistake?!?” When responding to Nolan especially stood out to me. You could really feel it
Yh the thing is with viltrumite DNA is that it become more dominant over time. That’s why marks powers kicked in when he was in his teens and why the kid looks like the way he does. So when in adulthood they’ll look fully viltrumite. So mark will continue to get stronger and the kids skin colour will change as he gets older and become stronger. How early his powers will kick in depends on how weak the thraxxian DNA is
im curious as to how Marks brother will age, and how that'll effect his powers. We know viltrumites get stronger the older they live, so will his brother have a shorter life span but achieve the height of his strength quicker? please dont spoil me if you know, im just musing out loud i guess.
@@declancampbell1277without any spoilers the best I can say is marks brother isn’t going anywhere and you will have your answers to your questions sooner rather than later like maybe this season max season 3
@@declancampbell1277also side note if you fuck with the story so far just wait it’s gets crazier and crazier😂 and it’s a MASSIVE story that they plan on doing the full run of
The point of the Thraxans is to put the viewer in the mindset of Omniman. Hell, you all agreed with him when talking about how short lived they are (36:24 Sam: "Now that's pet). When Nolan called Debbie a pet, we took it to mean a subservient creature, but the real meaning was deeper. We get pets all the time, not because we despise them, or feel the need to lord over them, but because we love them. Nolan compared Debbie to a pet, not because she's inferior, but because he grew to love her knowing **for a fact** that she would grow old and die, long LONG before him; that he'd outlive her by so long that he'd have to move on and love again. Obviously the analogy is twisted and disgusting, but that's sort of the point - we're meant to try to understand the mindset of a being who will live for millennia. So often during this episode you all (and indeed most viewers including myself) made light of the drama unfolding because "well who cares, the bug people only live for a year anyway", even though that was EXACTLY Omniman's rational when he murdered that fighter pilot in S1E8. It's so easy for empathy to fly out the window when we devalue the length of the experience on hand.
I love how they were like "ew he did it with a bug" then when Lucan said the exact same thing everyones like "hey that's mean". LOL Like I get it but people really do be reacting the same as the Viltrumites "they only live for a year, they are just bugs ect". Ya'll be just as bad.
Yeah the quote "A thing isn't beautiful because it lasts" is important here, just cause their entire lifespan is 365 days doesn't mean they don't live fulfilling lives.
Nolan is a good person at heart. The problem is that before this his moral compass was skewed. He was more loyal to Viltrum than his own ideals. He genuinely wants to help people, he genuinely things that Viltrum is doing a good thing. That’s why he was willing to sacrifice so many lives. He’s not evil. He’s just misguided.
he really is lol he is the only viltrum right now who cares and loves his sons he knows that he would die anyway because he knows viltrum dont let go the traitors so he is trying so hard to teach mark how to fight and even made another kid because he knows mark would stand alone
if anyone was curious, big mustaches are a staple in male viltrumite biology since their name comes from the philtrum, the area on the face where mustaches grow
"Viltrumite DNA is so pure you're nearly full-blooded" same concept with the bug kid. Ik it's a common misconception with reactors because most forget but Mark isn't "half-viltrumite" he's more like 10% human, almost a clone of Nolan.
@@JCShadow0202 I shouldn't spoil, but you did ask. Yes, the purple will fade away as he matures. In a couple of years he will look entirely human/viltrumite.
Omniman is completely right in asking Mark for help no matter how much it sucks that he has to. The viltrumites will track him to Thraxia and butcher the population for information and "being disgusting" regardless of whether he's still there or not, so simply leaving the planet and abandoning it's 42 billion people would only save Nolan himself. The only possible way he has of saving anyone else is to get Mark to help him enough that going after him becomes too dangerous for the Viltrumites to risk. As outrageous as it may be to ask for help, it *is* the most morally upstanding option he has.
And being “morally upstanding” is the backbone of who Mark is and Nolan knows it. Kid’s a good egg. Kind of moody and self-absorbed when he’s IN a Mood, but he has a very good heart.
Dont forget that after they kill the thraxans they will go after mark and earth. Marks against the rule so they will want to snuff that out early. So its either fight them later on by himself, or fight them now with his dad and at least gain experience.
@@knightheaven8992 facts they really wnt that planet lol and right now only one person in earth can actually stand agains them but he is too weak and is mark
The Maulers are such a fantastic concept for a villain. They’re very high concept; a megalomaniacal, super-powered mad scientist who’s so arrogant and egotistical that the only help they’ll accept is from themselves. When they’re identical, they both drive the other to be smarter, more cunning, more effective out of an insane spirit of competition. When they’re differentiated, one knows, the arrogance takes over, and they believe themselves to be superior and more cunning, missing the obvious fact that they would *never* accept an inferior role peacefully. Well, now they know that they’re both clones, even if the original had somehow managed to survive the prior deaths, they’re gone for sure now. But clearly one is a first generation clone and the other is an inferior, second generation clone with cellular degeneration! 😂
Omni-Man trying to self-terminate in a black hole is pretty crazy. There was never any indication in the comic he’d been *that* low after leaving Earth. But it makes sense, he just threw away his entire identity, thousands of years as a consummate Viltrumite warrior, and he’d thrown away his family, the first people in his entire long life he’d actually loved. I love that they added this for the show. The fact that Nolan, at his lowest point and with nothing else to care about, defaults to being a hero and saving lives, well, it hints at the possibility for redemption. Like there’s a spark of a decent and heroic man under the thousands of years of fascist brainwashing.
Ngl, the opening scene of this episode brought a tear to my eye. I could not help but feel the pain that Omni pain was going through. Beautifully created !
Viltrumite DNA is so pure that any halfbreeds are nearly full blooded. The older they get they the slower they age, so Mark's brother will probably grow nearly as long as a typical Viltrumite since their biology counteracts Thraxan's short lifespan. All it really does is make him speedrun through his childhood
@@ElDragow Similar species like humans can reach 99% but never 100% Viltrumite. Mark's lil bro is around 60% or possibly less since his growth rate is still faster than both Viltrumites and humans. Thraxan race, being different to Viltrumites, is less compatible, making the vGenes less effective and unable to override Thraxan genes. Thus, Mark's lil bro will only be 60% Viltrumite, never nearly pure/perfect as Viltrumite as Mark. Basically incompatible species is a no-no and equals an inferior half-breed viltrumite.
At some point viltrumite DNA makes any halfbreed look human/viltrumite, normal skin color included. But by then the only noticeable difference purity wise onward is physical strength and capabilities from what I've read.
@@ArcticPrimal what? all thraxan children became full bloded as time passed, they lost every characteristic from their thraxan mothers, blue skin and speed up aging, and oliver was hella strong after 5 years. The viltrumite gene overrides the other parent gene as time goes by
The baby is half viltrumite. They live for thousands of years. And the older they get the slower they age. Plus viltrumite dna is very dominant ie why the baby looks so human and not bug like
I love how there’s… hmm, trying to be vague, but a distinctly non-human-looking character who remarks that they love their Viltrumite partner, even if they make “odd-looking children” 😂.
Marks brother will also be almost immortal, the older he becomes, the slower he will age....so after reaching a certain age, he will pretty much stop aging
Honestly Nolan loved Debbi more than Debbi loved Nolan. Debbi loved his this much because she spent 20 years with. For Nolan it was speck of life. Like 2 months even then he abandoned his mission (Something that is punished by execution) and even was going to kill himself in the blackhole. Just that little amount of time and he grew to love his family that much. As much as we hate him for killing thousands. For him we are like bugs. Like Black Adam says "When you crush an ant beneath your foot, do feel remorse ? No. Is this because you are evil or because you recognize yourself as a higher form of life ?"
The funniest thing is that I've seen people act like how Nolan was acting towards humans while trying to fight his actual feelings but now against the thraxans despite them being on a higher level of tech than us just because according to us they don't really live that long anyway. Really shines a light on how morality really is just dependant on culture, people from that culture and how you see/feel about those people. It still makes Nolan a bad person for what he did, but now that he's cared, loved and lived with someone from our culture (and the thraxans) he can at least say that a life, even if a short one, can still have meaningful experiences.
OMG you completely wrote down what I had in my mind. I don’t blame people who react like this to Nolan. But it does annoy me that don’t stopt and truly think how special it is for Nolan to care so much about a species that is factually so much beneath his. Yet here we are killing thousand of animals on our planet without a second thought.
As someone pointed out, the Thraxans dying was supposed to show Mark what humans dying looked like to Nolan. You'll notice some people don't even have a reaction to their deaths compared to a human's death
@lucasbroome1048 mark immediately cared though. he pretended not to, but it had nothing to do with their 'inferiority' and was just him lashing out at nolan because he was being used
@@joshridinger3407 True, that shows when he says he doesn't care and Nolan says that he knows he's lying, I think it's great because not only it shows Nolan knows Mark well enough to tell but because he himself used the same excuse on earth.
It’s safe to say that the original Mauler probably did mark themselves as the original……..but then ended up exactly like the original in this episode. Maulers do not work well when they know who the original is 😂. Their dynamic is only healthy when they are on an equal level constantly trying to one up the other. Also Thraxan life span being so short served two functions. The first function is to get us to understand how Nolan sees humans. It gives context to the pet line where it’s not that he doesn’t love Debbie, but rather she isn’t on his level similar to a human with a dog or a cat. You still love your pets, but you recognize the differences between the species. Nolan learning to love Thraxans serves as development for how much he changed on Earth. The second function is to provide a narrative reason to expedite the growth of Mark’s brother. Having a long-term baby kind of screws the story, so his brother has to have some way to grow up faster.
24:28, 36:23 This is exactly how Omni-Man said in season 1 after killing the pilot in episode 7. After Mark said: "YOU KILLED HIM!" Nolan answered: "Now or in 50 years what difference does it make?" Then Mark replied "He'd have a life!". We as humans live so much longer than these bug people that it is comparable to how humans have only bug like lifespans compared to Vultrumites. When you say (as a human): "Why even bother saving these bug people since they would die next week anyway?" then it makes you understand how a Vultrumite feels towards humans. Like these bugs to us humans are just insects, since they live "only a year", as humans are just "insects" to a Vultrumite. The kid also looks more like a Vultrumite than bug and ages slower the older he gets cause of the dominant Vultrumite DNA.
7:14 "he's cheating on Debbie, they didnt get divorced yet" im confused as to why Mark and yall even care about that part, he's an alien that massacred thousands and is thousands of years old 😂 like obviously he's not gonna remain exclusive in another galaxy
Compared to the source material, the show handles Nolan and Mark’s reunion way better, much more nuance, emotional, and, quite frankly, more realistic. I love how Mark kept telling his pops about himself. It was just so real and true for somebody who been through what Mark has, the great voice acting by Steven Yeun also helped convey that. This show is incredible.
The show does most things better, but the reunion was way better in the comic. I thought the comic was more realistic. Mark still loves Nolan and needs him.
Well, he said Mark will live for millenia. If we assume 100 years for normal humans with great medicine and the formula for hybrids is the average of the powers of 10 (10^2 vs 10^3.x), a full blooded Viltrumite would live for up to maybe 10^5 or 100'000 years. Therefore, if the species of his mother lives for only 1 year (10^0) blue baby would still probably live longer than a human lifespan, if we go with 10^2.5 it would be around 300 years.
Im pretty sure marks brother will be basically full blood Viltrumite like Mark is, or close to it. When he reaches puberty and attain his powers.. his skin even changes to a normal shade, he looks like a regular human/ viltrumite... he probably will live several thousands of years too. Viltrumite DNA basically overrides alien DNA... right now Mark is probably 1% or 2% with Human DNA... and with His brother would be something similar most likely
Daaaamn the way Nolan and Mark take a beyond-lethal degree of bodily damage and still have the strength to fight and win is unlike any show, ever. There has gotta be a reason they are virtually immortal, this is AWESOME
My take on Nolan's actions is that he always seemed to have a tiny part of himself that wanted to be seen as a hero and benefactor and that his time on Earth with Debbie nurtured that part of him and allowed it to come out (when he met Debbie his first act was to save her life after all). When Mark gained his powers, he knew that he had to move forward with the Viltrumite plan to take over Earth or the rest of the Viltrumite Empire would arrive to see no progress and destroy everything. Killing the Guardians was his way of showing progress, but when everything started falling apart with Mark and Cecil standing against him, he felt he had no other option than to go into Viltrumite destruction mode to try to make the population, Mark, and Cecil capitulate, basically trying to save some humans by showing what was possible if they did not give in. His intention to self-delete in a black hole and his subsequent saving of the Thraxan ship indicated two things. One, that he felt his entire world was falling apart and that he could do nothing to repair it, and two that he has an altruistic aspect deeply ingrained inside of him since he was about to depart Thraxa after saving them without expecting anything in return. That he is a being that lives thousands of years and has had hundreds of years of likely brainwashing as a Viltrumite soldier is hard to break away from and so he falls back on those tactics naturally. Living so long makes one think of shorter lived races as transitory since the pain of their deaths would be too much if he did not think of them that way. Every Viltrumite that falls in love with someone from a shorter lived race would be a blubbering mess after a few hundred years if they didn't develop some psychological defense from that kind of emotional pain. They felt that they had to become cold and think of themselves as superior basically. This is not a means of excusing or forgiving anything Nolan did, but helps to put things in perspective for the inconsistency in his actions.
The Female Viltrumite, know as Thula. Is voice by Grey Griffin/DeLisle who also does Monster Girl and Shrinking Rae. But she more famously did the voice for the infamous Azula.
Next to Mark, Debbie might be my favorite character on the show. It also helps she's played by the fantastic Sandra Oh. Debbie is a strong, sweet, and enduring lady. All the female characters are much better represented in the show than they are the books.
@@darthdrynn8057that’s kind of an odd question. We don’t really know why she loves/loved him, but she thought he was a dick at first (took her to Rome and acted as if she should worship him for it) but he got a second date with her for rescuing children. She’s not impressed by his powers. Debbie’s a good one, if you’re trying to make her out to be the bad guy I’m not sure why you would.
"How long were they gonna live for anyways right?" 24:28 Be careful there Sam, sounding a lot like Omni-man there, lol. But that's the point Kirkman was trying to make, how we say all life is equal, but we naturally value some lives over others according to things like race, duration, or how close they are to us. That's the reason for the "pet" simile.
The tongue-lashing looks like a lot to us, but it's probably similar to a peck on the cheek/forehead for the Thraxans. Nolan seemingly just kinda reacted, and realized too late what it probably looked like to Mark. That's how I logic it out anyway. I'm sure the metatextual reason was just to shock the audience. The comic is great, but it is not bereft of shock for the sake of shock.
Wow turns out the react pact is racist towards aliens that don’t look like them not that I care😂one thing for sure he never called Andressa a pet but called Debbie one that speaks volumes
The fact that we got Kregg and Thula this early is insane. They are basically top 5 Viltrumites in the comics. Which means they might just tease number 2 on that list soon
The bug lifespan is 1year, but Viltrumites live for thousands of years. So the bug lifespan doesn't matter. The rate of growth is interesting. Viltrumites get stronger the older they live, so this baby has potential to get stronger faster than a normal Viltrumite.
Dunno if someone else has commented on it but the reason why the half-bug baby is purple is because the insect people are blue-skinned and Omni-Man is peach/pink-skinned. Due to Viltrumite's genes being so dominant, blue + pink = a shade of purple. That's also why the baby looks more human/Viltrumite rather than like an insectoid.
Seriously? I can't understand why people can't see it from Nolan's perspective even a little. You literally said it yourselves just now. "Some of them were gonna die in a day anyways." And how do you think a Viltrumite would feel? Even if it's only a thousand years, a human lives about a tenth of their lifespan. And it's implied that they live for much longer than just a thousand. We are literally insects to Viltrumites in almost virtually every way. From our frailty to our lifespan. Judging them by our human standards is pretty egocentric. That's not to mention that while what Nolan did was unforgivable, it's not exactly unacceptable. It's not like he was a pure villain and all his good deeds just up and disappeared the moment he betrayed humanity's trust. Sure don't forgive and forget. But that also applies to his past actions of saving millions of lives. He's clearly a very complicated character and yet people are so quick to judge him. I just don't get it.
If i was Omniman, I'd have a kid with a rapid aging species if i knew other Viltrumites were hunting me down in the hope that he'd grow fast enough to be of use. But he didn't have the time he thought he had.
Nolan is dead to the people on Earth(minus to those who knows he's alive), so from that perspective, the marriage between him and Debbie was negated from the moment he "died".
Yeah, legally and logically that’s the case, but Mark clearly still thinks of them as married. He hates his father but he’s still his dad and you can see he’s upset that Nolan can never come home. On the one hand I’m glad they let Mark be angry at his father, on the other, I’m a bit sad they didn’t show him asking Nolan to “come back home” like he did in the comic.
Viltrumite aging isn’t linear it slows as you get older, so invincible’s brother will grow up fast but slow in adulthood. Still obviously won’t like as long as mark.
I mean look at it from Nolan's point of view if you have empathy. He is struggling with his whole worldview. "How is this better?" 1st) Viltrumites are essentially as close to demigods in their universe. They live for THOUSANDS OF YEARS, have amazing physical physics defying abilities and superior tech. They then decide to explore space and find out that every single species they come across is short lived, weak and essentially living in the middle ages compared to the Viltrumites. Of course you would develope a superiority complex of epic proportions. But wait... 2nd) The culture he was born, indoctrinated and raised in is a culture that very recently decided to kill off all the weak of there society. Weak in all metrics, meaning if you had empathy or compassion for anything lesser than a Viltrumite you needed to go. So Nolan has never cared about anything but his mission he belived so deeply in because why would he not? This man was having a breakdown experiencing emotions he never knew he had. Because.. 3rd) Nolan has lived for thousands of years by this point. I would probably guess like 2-4k but if it is any higher it proves the point even more. He was only on Earth for 20 years. 20 years compared to 2 thousands is quite small. Which is why I think most people take offensewhen he called Debbie a pet. I bet most see the pet comment as a dominant/submissive thing but I truly believe he meant it in terms of lifespans. There are people that truly love their pets like they are blood relatives but however when that pet dies, they will get another so they can have something to love and keep them company. They still love their pets with all their being. Love and emotions are new to Nolan. Debbie really got through to him on an emotional level, and it has only been 20 years, which is like a 3 day weekend compared to us.
I think Nolan saved them from that black hole because he wanted to honor Mark or do a good deed one last time. Then once he got them to safety, leave and go back to that black hole and resume his suicide
If pops knew his people are tracking him. He should have left the bug planet and leave the a clue redirecting them away from the bug planet instead of risking their lives a marks life. It’s not like they knew he had a new baby.
The average lifespan of a human is somewhere around 78 years. It doesn't always go up, actually it dropped about .7 years recently, but it is much longer than it was. (biggest factors for the drop were covid 19 and an increase in suicide for men) When the average age was 38, that really doesn't tell the story. There were people who lived to be 60, the reason the average was so low was mostly due to high infant/mother mortality rates. Also, without antibiotics *any* cut could be fatal at any time.
Omni man's genes are gonna make the purple baby live for thousands of years the viltrumites live for around 100 thousand years. So the half bug will live like 5 thousand years.
This was literally the first time Omni-man became a actual hero and not disguise as one he didn't have to save them but he did but on earth and the many people he saved just massacre them all and the atrocities he did is horrifying and unforgivable and now he feels it more than ever.
"now thats a pet" There you go. Now yall see what omni man sees about us. I love how reactors act like Omni man in season 1 while saying what he said was wrong 😂
Btw the Thraxans serve as an example of how Nolan saw humans. Barely a spec in his lifetime yet they're people nonetheless. People someone can care for.
Viltrumite dna only fully kicks in later in a hybrids years. Mark was human for most of his life until his viltrumite dna fully took over in high school. Viltrumite dna is dominant and eliminates weaknesses in a hybrids dna eventually making them full viltrumite as stated by Omni man in season 1. Same will happen to marks brother eventually.
Its very interesting that mark has been holding back the whole show. I like how they did this because in the comics it felt like his strength came out of nowhere.
Absolutely not lol, in the comics he didn't take the upper hand on the viltrumite, and he was about to be killed without really hurt him (it was a guy), have you read ?🤔
To be fair to Nolan, the "bug people" really aren't that "bug like". They have largly mammalian biology. Lips, a regular tongue, faces capable of emotional expression.. they barely look like an insect at all.
Also when General Kregg tells mark they'll check on him soon he actually meant 100 years(which for Viltrumites is very soon) at least in the comics is what he tells him
I get your point but Nolan wasn't being selfish, he was genuinely starting to care for another species and he knew saving innocent lives trumps a personal life like college classes etc.
Everybody is going through it. Mark finding out he has a stepmom and a stepbrother, Donald beginning to see the truth about himself, Eve struggling with being a hero while her parents give little to no support, Mark is off-planet, and Eve just deciding to skip out on meeting with friends who care about her. Now we have to wait till the holiday break is over to see what happens next.
Viltrums aren’t raised as humans so I’m not surprised he’s not as sincere as regular people it’s like saiyans saiyans aren’t bad fathers and mothers there just genetically different and raised different it’s probably genetically apart of them to rarely feel emotion that’s why Omni man so confused
Fun fact: the reason Mark's brother is purple is because Thraxan DNA is not as compatible with Viltrumite DNA as Human DNA is, however as he matures and becomes more Viltrumite-like he will lose his purplish appearance.
Even when thinking about marks own life I think it would be best that mark trained with his dad cause regardless if he helped his dad or not viltrumites we’re bound to show up to earth to check the planet that Nolan abandoned so might as well prepare for the future you gonna have to face one day
The reason why the baby looks more humanoid, is because Viltrumite DNA is always dominant.
Yup out of 100% the Viltrumite DNA gonna take the 90%
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no matter what he impregnates it will look humanoid, whatever you think he'll f it.
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Huh, and that's why Mark's DNA is so close and practically fully Viltrumite?
A lot of people forget that Nolan is NOT human. He's been alive for a very long time. The fact that Mark and Debbie changed him so much is crazy.
Agreed.
Many just don't think of the fact that he lived at least two thousand years as a soldier of Viltrum Empire.
Twenty years with change for his lifespan is like a less than a month to us.
The fact that he's changing that much is a miracle.
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I am NOT saying that he is automatically a good guy now or that his atrocities are forgiven and forgotten.
All I'm saying is people can change and have redemption for their deeds, and what defies you is not your past or words but your present and your actions.
This is a world with intergalactic conflicts stretching close to ten thousand years. People can and will change their minds and make new alliances and new conclusions about life in general.
So gradual redemption of some people doesn't seem unrealistic to me.
@@Pondero36basically a thousand years of indoctrination to an evil empire and only 20 or so years on earth has done so much to counter this indoctrination. Earth go crazy😂
@@Pondero36of course you clowns gotta defend him
@@johnjordan211 not necessarily defending he is still a bad guy at this point, and the stuff he did will never go away no matter how much good he does from now on but he did choose to become better when he could've just remained loyal to the Empire knowing that if not he would die also yeah his lifespan is crazy and after those years of evil it comes as a surprise those Viltrumites posses the ability to change for the better, so in the case of Nolan ig the best side with him is neutral for now atleast
@@dariusthatsit yeah it will go away but he will never get any punishment and his wife will instantly get laid with him again
this episode’s intro was absolutely beautiful, narratively and visually. you could feel omni man’s pain and sense of loss throughout the entire sequence
best scene of the show for me second only to the fight in ep 8 of season 1
@@Untitled_-_Productions. I feel like it's more akin to the scene where Omni Man invades the Flaxan's dimension and destroys their civilization. Nolan's beard is a catalyst to good animation.
@@Untitled_-_Productions. You mean the beat down?
@@xXxPAYCHECKOxXx that’s a better word haha. The beat down and that think Mark moment
I am gonna puke
Steven Yeun’s acting in this was amazing as always, but this episode might have my favorite performances from him in the show so far. The incredible amount of emotion in “ A mistake?!?” When responding to Nolan especially stood out to me. You could really feel it
It might be Yeun’s best performance, voice acting or otherwise. I think he really “gets” the character.
One thing I’ll say it’s this. All the things people say about the bug people is the same stuff the Viltrumites would say about humans.
Bingo
Crazy how this fact slipped so many viewers minds isn't it?
Yup, some people pointed out that that is the point. We see them as short lived (literal) bugs. The viltrumites see us as short lived bugs.
@@DingoEnderZOE2well people arent very bright lol
dont try it alot of people are just watching the show and proyecting those daddy problems in nolan
Viltrumites have very dominant genes. That’s why Mark’s brother looks more human than Thraxan. The Viltrumite genes are overriding the Thraxan part.
he can f rocks too and his dna still cums through.
Yh the thing is with viltrumite DNA is that it become more dominant over time. That’s why marks powers kicked in when he was in his teens and why the kid looks like the way he does. So when in adulthood they’ll look fully viltrumite. So mark will continue to get stronger and the kids skin colour will change as he gets older and become stronger. How early his powers will kick in depends on how weak the thraxxian DNA is
im curious as to how Marks brother will age, and how that'll effect his powers. We know viltrumites get stronger the older they live, so will his brother have a shorter life span but achieve the height of his strength quicker? please dont spoil me if you know, im just musing out loud i guess.
@@declancampbell1277without any spoilers the best I can say is marks brother isn’t going anywhere and you will have your answers to your questions sooner rather than later like maybe this season max season 3
@@declancampbell1277also side note if you fuck with the story so far just wait it’s gets crazier and crazier😂 and it’s a MASSIVE story that they plan on doing the full run of
The point of the Thraxans is to put the viewer in the mindset of Omniman. Hell, you all agreed with him when talking about how short lived they are (36:24 Sam: "Now that's pet). When Nolan called Debbie a pet, we took it to mean a subservient creature, but the real meaning was deeper. We get pets all the time, not because we despise them, or feel the need to lord over them, but because we love them. Nolan compared Debbie to a pet, not because she's inferior, but because he grew to love her knowing **for a fact** that she would grow old and die, long LONG before him; that he'd outlive her by so long that he'd have to move on and love again.
Obviously the analogy is twisted and disgusting, but that's sort of the point - we're meant to try to understand the mindset of a being who will live for millennia. So often during this episode you all (and indeed most viewers including myself) made light of the drama unfolding because "well who cares, the bug people only live for a year anyway", even though that was EXACTLY Omniman's rational when he murdered that fighter pilot in S1E8. It's so easy for empathy to fly out the window when we devalue the length of the experience on hand.
I love how they were like "ew he did it with a bug" then when Lucan said the exact same thing everyones like "hey that's mean". LOL
Like I get it but people really do be reacting the same as the Viltrumites "they only live for a year, they are just bugs ect". Ya'll be just as bad.
Yeah the quote "A thing isn't beautiful because it lasts" is important here, just cause their entire lifespan is 365 days doesn't mean they don't live fulfilling lives.
Yeah they also made fun of Rudy's original body, they seem to care a lot about looks
@@redharlow9750 Do some people just not get the concept of humor? Lol.
@@michaelhenry3234 well you watch Hasan so i wouldn't expect you to know what humor is either
@@redharlow9750it’s really isn’t that deep
Nolan is a good person at heart. The problem is that before this his moral compass was skewed. He was more loyal to Viltrum than his own ideals. He genuinely wants to help people, he genuinely things that Viltrum is doing a good thing. That’s why he was willing to sacrifice so many lives. He’s not evil. He’s just misguided.
he really is lol he is the only viltrum right now who cares and loves his sons he knows that he would die anyway because he knows viltrum dont let go the traitors so he is trying so hard to teach mark how to fight and even made another kid because he knows mark would stand alone
if anyone was curious, big mustaches are a staple in male viltrumite biology since their name comes from the philtrum, the area on the face where mustaches grow
Fun fact, Andressa is played by Rhea Seehorn, better know has Kim Wexler from the critically acclaimed show Better Call Saul.
🤓
@@smokey420665 Ok
@@smokey420665wow, someone has pop culture knowledge! Lmao you’re TOO smart! Nerd!
@@Okkotsu86275 lol was just a little bullying relax buddy
@@smokey420665 Again okay
"Viltrumite DNA is so pure you're nearly full-blooded" same concept with the bug kid. Ik it's a common misconception with reactors because most forget but Mark isn't "half-viltrumite" he's more like 10% human, almost a clone of Nolan.
And as time goes on, all his human cells will die and make him 100% Viltrumite.
@@ElDragow I didn’t even realize, damn that’s crazy
@@ElDragow does that mean, in a year, bug kid will lose his purple when his Thraxen cells die?
@@JCShadow0202 I shouldn't spoil, but you did ask. Yes, the purple will fade away as he matures. In a couple of years he will look entirely human/viltrumite.
@@JCShadow0202 yeas he is goin to look like a viltrum like nolan and mark
Mark's bug "stepmom" Andressa was actually really sweet😂😂
24:30 lol that was exactly Nolan's point when he was killing people back on earth.
Exactly lmao, don't know how people keep missing the point
I was joking -Sam
@@TheReactPacktrying to save face by saying it was a joke, classic haha
@@luffygear5sungodnika610everytime lmao
Omniman is completely right in asking Mark for help no matter how much it sucks that he has to.
The viltrumites will track him to Thraxia and butcher the population for information and "being disgusting" regardless of whether he's still there or not, so simply leaving the planet and abandoning it's 42 billion people would only save Nolan himself. The only possible way he has of saving anyone else is to get Mark to help him enough that going after him becomes too dangerous for the Viltrumites to risk. As outrageous as it may be to ask for help, it *is* the most morally upstanding option he has.
And being “morally upstanding” is the backbone of who Mark is and Nolan knows it. Kid’s a good egg. Kind of moody and self-absorbed when he’s IN a Mood, but he has a very good heart.
Dont forget that after they kill the thraxans they will go after mark and earth. Marks against the rule so they will want to snuff that out early. So its either fight them later on by himself, or fight them now with his dad and at least gain experience.
@@prodby3clips True
Besides, the Viltrumites would eventually come to earth anyway
@@knightheaven8992 facts they really wnt that planet lol and right now only one person in earth can actually stand agains them but he is too weak and is mark
The Maulers are such a fantastic concept for a villain. They’re very high concept; a megalomaniacal, super-powered mad scientist who’s so arrogant and egotistical that the only help they’ll accept is from themselves. When they’re identical, they both drive the other to be smarter, more cunning, more effective out of an insane spirit of competition. When they’re differentiated, one knows, the arrogance takes over, and they believe themselves to be superior and more cunning, missing the obvious fact that they would *never* accept an inferior role peacefully.
Well, now they know that they’re both clones, even if the original had somehow managed to survive the prior deaths, they’re gone for sure now. But clearly one is a first generation clone and the other is an inferior, second generation clone with cellular degeneration! 😂
Jet fuel can’t melt Donald’s glasses
Omni-Man trying to self-terminate in a black hole is pretty crazy. There was never any indication in the comic he’d been *that* low after leaving Earth. But it makes sense, he just threw away his entire identity, thousands of years as a consummate Viltrumite warrior, and he’d thrown away his family, the first people in his entire long life he’d actually loved.
I love that they added this for the show. The fact that Nolan, at his lowest point and with nothing else to care about, defaults to being a hero and saving lives, well, it hints at the possibility for redemption. Like there’s a spark of a decent and heroic man under the thousands of years of fascist brainwashing.
Ngl, the opening scene of this episode brought a tear to my eye. I could not help but feel the pain that Omni pain was going through. Beautifully created !
Viltrumite DNA is so pure that any halfbreeds are nearly full blooded. The older they get they the slower they age, so Mark's brother will probably grow nearly as long as a typical Viltrumite since their biology counteracts Thraxan's short lifespan. All it really does is make him speedrun through his childhood
Doesn’t any half breed become fully Viltrulite given enough time since the cells of the other species will have died out, maken them 100% viltrumite?
@@ElDragow Similar species like humans can reach 99% but never 100% Viltrumite. Mark's lil bro is around 60% or possibly less since his growth rate is still faster than both Viltrumites and humans. Thraxan race, being different to Viltrumites, is less compatible, making the vGenes less effective and unable to override Thraxan genes. Thus, Mark's lil bro will only be 60% Viltrumite, never nearly pure/perfect as Viltrumite as Mark. Basically incompatible species is a no-no and equals an inferior half-breed viltrumite.
At some point viltrumite DNA makes any halfbreed look human/viltrumite, normal skin color included. But by then the only noticeable difference purity wise onward is physical strength and capabilities from what I've read.
@@ArcticPrimal what? all thraxan children became full bloded as time passed, they lost every characteristic from their thraxan mothers, blue skin and speed up aging, and oliver was hella strong after 5 years.
The viltrumite gene overrides the other parent gene as time goes by
you sure its only 60%?@@ArcticPrimal
The baby is half viltrumite. They live for thousands of years. And the older they get the slower they age. Plus viltrumite dna is very dominant ie why the baby looks so human and not bug like
I love how there’s… hmm, trying to be vague, but a distinctly non-human-looking character who remarks that they love their Viltrumite partner, even if they make “odd-looking children” 😂.
Lucan's got that dawg in him. broke Nolan's back while still holding his guts. wtf
Marks brother will also be almost immortal, the older he becomes, the slower he will age....so after reaching a certain age, he will pretty much stop aging
Honestly Nolan loved Debbi more than Debbi loved Nolan. Debbi loved his this much because she spent 20 years with.
For Nolan it was speck of life. Like 2 months even then he abandoned his mission (Something that is punished by execution) and even was going to kill himself in the blackhole. Just that little amount of time and he grew to love his family that much. As much as we hate him for killing thousands. For him we are like bugs.
Like Black Adam says "When you crush an ant beneath your foot, do feel remorse ? No. Is this because you are evil or because you recognize yourself as a higher form of life ?"
The funniest thing is that I've seen people act like how Nolan was acting towards humans while trying to fight his actual feelings but now against the thraxans despite them being on a higher level of tech than us just because according to us they don't really live that long anyway. Really shines a light on how morality really is just dependant on culture, people from that culture and how you see/feel about those people. It still makes Nolan a bad person for what he did, but now that he's cared, loved and lived with someone from our culture (and the thraxans) he can at least say that a life, even if a short one, can still have meaningful experiences.
OMG you completely wrote down what I had in my mind. I don’t blame people who react like this to Nolan. But it does annoy me that don’t stopt and truly think how special it is for Nolan to care so much about a species that is factually so much beneath his. Yet here we are killing thousand of animals on our planet without a second thought.
As someone pointed out, the Thraxans dying was supposed to show Mark what humans dying looked like to Nolan. You'll notice some people don't even have a reaction to their deaths compared to a human's death
@lucasbroome1048 mark immediately cared though. he pretended not to, but it had nothing to do with their 'inferiority' and was just him lashing out at nolan because he was being used
@@joshridinger3407 True, that shows when he says he doesn't care and Nolan says that he knows he's lying, I think it's great because not only it shows Nolan knows Mark well enough to tell but because he himself used the same excuse on earth.
It’s safe to say that the original Mauler probably did mark themselves as the original……..but then ended up exactly like the original in this episode. Maulers do not work well when they know who the original is 😂. Their dynamic is only healthy when they are on an equal level constantly trying to one up the other.
Also Thraxan life span being so short served two functions. The first function is to get us to understand how Nolan sees humans. It gives context to the pet line where it’s not that he doesn’t love Debbie, but rather she isn’t on his level similar to a human with a dog or a cat. You still love your pets, but you recognize the differences between the species. Nolan learning to love Thraxans serves as development for how much he changed on Earth. The second function is to provide a narrative reason to expedite the growth of Mark’s brother. Having a long-term baby kind of screws the story, so his brother has to have some way to grow up faster.
24:28, 36:23 This is exactly how Omni-Man said in season 1 after killing the pilot in episode 7. After Mark said: "YOU KILLED HIM!" Nolan answered: "Now or in 50 years what difference does it make?" Then Mark replied "He'd have a life!". We as humans live so much longer than these bug people that it is comparable to how humans have only bug like lifespans compared to Vultrumites. When you say (as a human): "Why even bother saving these bug people since they would die next week anyway?" then it makes you understand how a Vultrumite feels towards humans. Like these bugs to us humans are just insects, since they live "only a year", as humans are just "insects" to a Vultrumite.
The kid also looks more like a Vultrumite than bug and ages slower the older he gets cause of the dominant Vultrumite DNA.
7:14 "he's cheating on Debbie, they didnt get divorced yet" im confused as to why Mark and yall even care about that part, he's an alien that massacred thousands and is thousands of years old 😂 like obviously he's not gonna remain exclusive in another galaxy
You gotta respect the Thraxans
Compared to the source material, the show handles Nolan and Mark’s reunion way better, much more nuance, emotional, and, quite frankly, more realistic. I love how Mark kept telling his pops about himself. It was just so real and true for somebody who been through what Mark has, the great voice acting by Steven Yeun also helped convey that. This show is incredible.
Of course normie trash is gonna acti like this
The show does most things better, but the reunion was way better in the comic. I thought the comic was more realistic.
Mark still loves Nolan and needs him.
@@kroneexe Have to disagree on that.
@@kroneexe it does most things worse
@@johnjordan211 I can accept this actually. The show does seem less amazing after I read the comics.
Well, he said Mark will live for millenia. If we assume 100 years for normal humans with great medicine and the formula for hybrids is the average of the powers of 10 (10^2 vs 10^3.x), a full blooded Viltrumite would live for up to maybe 10^5 or 100'000 years. Therefore, if the species of his mother lives for only 1 year (10^0) blue baby would still probably live longer than a human lifespan, if we go with 10^2.5 it would be around 300 years.
Well, hybrids become more viltrumite as they age. This is why they'll live much more than 300 years.
Im pretty sure marks brother will be basically full blood Viltrumite like Mark is, or close to it. When he reaches puberty and attain his powers.. his skin even changes to a normal shade, he looks like a regular human/ viltrumite... he probably will live several thousands of years too. Viltrumite DNA basically overrides alien DNA... right now Mark is probably 1% or 2% with Human DNA... and with His brother would be something similar most likely
@@knightheaven8992
Well, humans have the best compatibility with viltrumites.
Daaaamn the way Nolan and Mark take a beyond-lethal degree of bodily damage and still have the strength to fight and win is unlike any show, ever. There has gotta be a reason they are virtually immortal, this is AWESOME
Mark about to go on a Attack on Titan arc by reading Nolan's books.
My take on Nolan's actions is that he always seemed to have a tiny part of himself that wanted to be seen as a hero and benefactor and that his time on Earth with Debbie nurtured that part of him and allowed it to come out (when he met Debbie his first act was to save her life after all). When Mark gained his powers, he knew that he had to move forward with the Viltrumite plan to take over Earth or the rest of the Viltrumite Empire would arrive to see no progress and destroy everything. Killing the Guardians was his way of showing progress, but when everything started falling apart with Mark and Cecil standing against him, he felt he had no other option than to go into Viltrumite destruction mode to try to make the population, Mark, and Cecil capitulate, basically trying to save some humans by showing what was possible if they did not give in.
His intention to self-delete in a black hole and his subsequent saving of the Thraxan ship indicated two things. One, that he felt his entire world was falling apart and that he could do nothing to repair it, and two that he has an altruistic aspect deeply ingrained inside of him since he was about to depart Thraxa after saving them without expecting anything in return. That he is a being that lives thousands of years and has had hundreds of years of likely brainwashing as a Viltrumite soldier is hard to break away from and so he falls back on those tactics naturally. Living so long makes one think of shorter lived races as transitory since the pain of their deaths would be too much if he did not think of them that way. Every Viltrumite that falls in love with someone from a shorter lived race would be a blubbering mess after a few hundred years if they didn't develop some psychological defense from that kind of emotional pain. They felt that they had to become cold and think of themselves as superior basically. This is not a means of excusing or forgiving anything Nolan did, but helps to put things in perspective for the inconsistency in his actions.
24:28 Nolan said the exact same thing when killing the guy in the military jet, "Dying now or in 50 years what difference does it make"
This episode shows the true nature of everyone
The Female Viltrumite, know as Thula. Is voice by Grey Griffin/DeLisle who also does Monster Girl and Shrinking Rae. But she more famously did the voice for the infamous Azula.
Not Nolan making a chimera ant 😂
Mantis not ant
Viltumite DNA is so pure nearly every halfbreed is like 80-90% pure blooded.
"With these disgusting creatures!?"
Morgan: "HEY!"
5 minutes earlier:
"Eww did he fuck an ant?"
Next to Mark, Debbie might be my favorite character on the show. It also helps she's played by the fantastic Sandra Oh. Debbie is a strong, sweet, and enduring lady. All the female characters are much better represented in the show than they are the books.
Did Debbie love Nolan or the things he could do for her?
@@darthdrynn8057Stop it
Can’t wait for her to raise kid Omni
@@darthdrynn8057probably a mixture of both
@@darthdrynn8057that’s kind of an odd question. We don’t really know why she loves/loved him, but she thought he was a dick at first (took her to Rome and acted as if she should worship him for it) but he got a second date with her for rescuing children. She’s not impressed by his powers. Debbie’s a good one, if you’re trying to make her out to be the bad guy I’m not sure why you would.
7:13 **Morgan is repulsed**
18:38 **Morgan acts offended when someone else is repulsed**
I love Sam's facial expressions in this one! Roller coaster of a reaction. Love ya'll!
I think Donald this time is built to be tougher bc of how he went out last time. Either that or he has metal beneath his skin...idk.
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"How long were they gonna live for anyways right?" 24:28 Be careful there Sam, sounding a lot like Omni-man there, lol. But that's the point Kirkman was trying to make, how we say all life is equal, but we naturally value some lives over others according to things like race, duration, or how close they are to us. That's the reason for the "pet" simile.
The tongue-lashing looks like a lot to us, but it's probably similar to a peck on the cheek/forehead for the Thraxans. Nolan seemingly just kinda reacted, and realized too late what it probably looked like to Mark. That's how I logic it out anyway. I'm sure the metatextual reason was just to shock the audience. The comic is great, but it is not bereft of shock for the sake of shock.
We get to see people's true nature from this episode, especially from how they view Thraxans. No point hiding it, viewers are not fools👍🏻
Wow turns out the react pact is racist towards aliens that don’t look like them not that I care😂one thing for sure he never called Andressa a pet but called Debbie one that speaks volumes
Omni man did say " I can always Start again, make another kid"
The maulers also told robot that they were better off not knowing who the clone was
When explaining the memory transfer
Lol I thought I was the only who thought that lady Viltrumite was kinda hot. Like damn, you know she was a baddie in her day
To be fair Eve trying to take out anger on Brodie did lead to those people I dying(I’m assuming they died)
18:41 Ok you dont get to say anything, when you guys were aslo disgusted a minute ago.
Nolan's new wife* is a praying mantis . which is insane considering how these insects mate 😶
THANK YOU!!. finally someone else who knows the thraxans are mantis and not ants. (also you said Nolan's new wise, not you new wife)
The fact that we got Kregg and Thula this early is insane. They are basically top 5 Viltrumites in the comics. Which means they might just tease number 2 on that list soon
Conquest?
@@kroneexehas to be conquest because I think we all agree Thragg is number 1 haha
@@kroneexe we see him in S1 ep 8 when Nolan explains the great purge to madk
The bug lifespan is 1year, but Viltrumites live for thousands of years. So the bug lifespan doesn't matter. The rate of growth is interesting. Viltrumites get stronger the older they live, so this baby has potential to get stronger faster than a normal Viltrumite.
Dunno if someone else has commented on it but the reason why the half-bug baby is purple is because the insect people are blue-skinned and Omni-Man is peach/pink-skinned. Due to Viltrumite's genes being so dominant, blue + pink = a shade of purple. That's also why the baby looks more human/Viltrumite rather than like an insectoid.
That shade eventually goes away but yeah
The real reason is that they have blue skin too, but their blood is red so they appear to look purple
Seriously? I can't understand why people can't see it from Nolan's perspective even a little. You literally said it yourselves just now. "Some of them were gonna die in a day anyways." And how do you think a Viltrumite would feel? Even if it's only a thousand years, a human lives about a tenth of their lifespan. And it's implied that they live for much longer than just a thousand. We are literally insects to Viltrumites in almost virtually every way. From our frailty to our lifespan. Judging them by our human standards is pretty egocentric. That's not to mention that while what Nolan did was unforgivable, it's not exactly unacceptable. It's not like he was a pure villain and all his good deeds just up and disappeared the moment he betrayed humanity's trust. Sure don't forgive and forget. But that also applies to his past actions of saving millions of lives. He's clearly a very complicated character and yet people are so quick to judge him. I just don't get it.
This episode brings out the true nature of people, and theirs is not good
If i was Omniman, I'd have a kid with a rapid aging species if i knew other Viltrumites were hunting me down in the hope that he'd grow fast enough to be of use. But he didn't have the time he thought he had.
Lol. Did Thragg write this comment?
Ha, but yeah that’s a totally viable plan. They gave Omni-man decades to take Earth and never even checked up on him.
“Some of them are gonna die in a day anyway” lol that’s how Nolan felt about humanity💀…
Nolan tries to save 42 billion people while also getting his son prepared for the upcoming war = selfish ☠️
7:14, your reaction at that time had me laughing my guts out 😂
That bald Viltrumite had guts to go against Omni-man.
Nolan is dead to the people on Earth(minus to those who knows he's alive), so from that perspective, the marriage between him and Debbie was negated from the moment he "died".
Yeah, legally and logically that’s the case, but Mark clearly still thinks of them as married. He hates his father but he’s still his dad and you can see he’s upset that Nolan can never come home. On the one hand I’m glad they let Mark be angry at his father, on the other, I’m a bit sad they didn’t show him asking Nolan to “come back home” like he did in the comic.
Viltrumite aging isn’t linear it slows as you get older, so invincible’s brother will grow up fast but slow in adulthood. Still obviously won’t like as long as mark.
I mean look at it from Nolan's point of view if you have empathy. He is struggling with his whole worldview. "How is this better?"
1st) Viltrumites are essentially as close to demigods in their universe. They live for THOUSANDS OF YEARS, have amazing physical physics defying abilities and superior tech. They then decide to explore space and find out that every single species they come across is short lived, weak and essentially living in the middle ages compared to the Viltrumites. Of course you would develope a superiority complex of epic proportions. But wait...
2nd) The culture he was born, indoctrinated and raised in is a culture that very recently decided to kill off all the weak of there society. Weak in all metrics, meaning if you had empathy or compassion for anything lesser than a Viltrumite you needed to go. So Nolan has never cared about anything but his mission he belived so deeply in because why would he not? This man was having a breakdown experiencing emotions he never knew he had. Because..
3rd) Nolan has lived for thousands of years by this point. I would probably guess like 2-4k but if it is any higher it proves the point even more. He was only on Earth for 20 years. 20 years compared to 2 thousands is quite small. Which is why I think most people take offensewhen he called Debbie a pet. I bet most see the pet comment as a dominant/submissive thing but I truly believe he meant it in terms of lifespans. There are people that truly love their pets like they are blood relatives but however when that pet dies, they will get another so they can have something to love and keep them company. They still love their pets with all their being.
Love and emotions are new to Nolan. Debbie really got through to him on an emotional level, and it has only been 20 years, which is like a 3 day weekend compared to us.
I think Nolan saved them from that black hole because he wanted to honor Mark or do a good deed one last time. Then once he got them to safety, leave and go back to that black hole and resume his suicide
The baby will
Live for thousands of years.
Ehhhh. Sure, let's go with that
That man said i might have to hold my guts in but im still gonna get this last hit.
Got to admire that
If pops knew his people are tracking him. He should have left the bug planet and leave the a clue redirecting them away from the bug planet instead of risking their lives a marks life. It’s not like they knew he had a new baby.
Nolan: Help me save these innocent people.
Ya'll: Nolan's so selfish.
-_- make it make sense.
Truth is Omni man probably put his meat in stranger things, he’s been alive and round for a LONG time
The average lifespan of a human is somewhere around 78 years. It doesn't always go up, actually it dropped about .7 years recently, but it is much longer than it was. (biggest factors for the drop were covid 19 and an increase in suicide for men)
When the average age was 38, that really doesn't tell the story. There were people who lived to be 60, the reason the average was so low was mostly due to high infant/mother mortality rates. Also, without antibiotics *any* cut could be fatal at any time.
I love the parallel between Nolan and the black hole and Debbie on the bridge.
Omni man's genes are gonna make the purple baby live for thousands of years the viltrumites live for around 100 thousand years. So the half bug will live like 5 thousand years.
I'm from Vietnam and just discovered your channel. Your reaction is very good
I think the thraxian/viltrimite babys life span is like 40 years
Well someone definitely spoilers leading up to this. Or very very on point predictions lol
This was literally the first time Omni-man became a actual hero and not disguise as one he didn't have to save them but he did but on earth and the many people he saved just massacre them all and the atrocities he did is horrifying and unforgivable and now he feels it more than ever.
Viltrumite men keep mustaches as a point of pride, to show they are Viltrumite men.
"now thats a pet"
There you go. Now yall see what omni man sees about us. I love how reactors act like Omni man in season 1 while saying what he said was wrong 😂
Btw the Thraxans serve as an example of how Nolan saw humans. Barely a spec in his lifetime yet they're people nonetheless. People someone can care for.
Viltrumite dna only fully kicks in later in a hybrids years. Mark was human for most of his life until his viltrumite dna fully took over in high school. Viltrumite dna is dominant and eliminates weaknesses in a hybrids dna eventually making them full viltrumite as stated by Omni man in season 1. Same will happen to marks brother eventually.
Its very interesting that mark has been holding back the whole show. I like how they did this because in the comics it felt like his strength came out of nowhere.
Absolutely not lol, in the comics he didn't take the upper hand on the viltrumite, and he was about to be killed without really hurt him (it was a guy), have you read ?🤔
Lol, I liked the real girls point of view, fun.🎉 Keep it going.
The Woman viltrumite is pretty hot lol, thought i was the only one who thought that.
To be fair to Nolan, the "bug people" really aren't that "bug like". They have largly mammalian biology. Lips, a regular tongue, faces capable of emotional expression.. they barely look like an insect at all.
Also when General Kregg tells mark they'll check on him soon he actually meant 100 years(which for Viltrumites is very soon) at least in the comics is what he tells him
Oh yes, spoilers, just what people asked for.
Fun fact: the thraxans' bodies are a lot more humanlike in the comic. And they have bangin' bodies.
I get your point but Nolan wasn't being selfish, he was genuinely starting to care for another species and he knew saving innocent lives trumps a personal life like college classes etc.
The fact that Mark could’ve died in this war he had no part in still does make it kinda selfish though
i think that donald already knew cecil's password he ain't have to guess it since they're close
Everybody is going through it. Mark finding out he has a stepmom and a stepbrother, Donald beginning to see the truth about himself, Eve struggling with being a hero while her parents give little to no support, Mark is off-planet, and Eve just deciding to skip out on meeting with friends who care about her.
Now we have to wait till the holiday break is over to see what happens next.
"how do you fuck an ant"😂😂😂 you know what ive never actually considered the inner workings of that
Not ants they're mantis and they have the same thing as humans except the pregnancy is faster than 9 months
Due to their lifespan being only a year
@@joelrodriguez5888 bro......
@@quickie17 yup
If the knife bent on Donald, I'm assuming his bones are metal, making him an android, like Arnold in Terminator. Flesh and blood over a robotic frame.
You know what they say, "Once you go Grasshopper, your kinks are improper"
Less than one year. Where is Chris Hanson when we need him
I wanna see that cute little brother bug grow up😂 They have to make it happen, him and Mark would be unstoppable I think
He does for a while before Thragg kills him lol
Viltrums aren’t raised as humans so I’m not surprised he’s not as sincere as regular people it’s like saiyans saiyans aren’t bad fathers and mothers there just genetically different and raised different it’s probably genetically apart of them to rarely feel emotion that’s why Omni man so confused
7:18 I mean if I was in her shoes I would consider that relationship OVER ngl
and there he is... the baby who will change the universe. ;D
39:47 She said she knew about Debbie and Mark only after she was already in too deep.
Fun fact: the reason Mark's brother is purple is because Thraxan DNA is not as compatible with Viltrumite DNA as Human DNA is, however as he matures and becomes more Viltrumite-like he will lose his purplish appearance.
Even when thinking about marks own life I think it would be best that mark trained with his dad cause regardless if he helped his dad or not viltrumites we’re bound to show up to earth to check the planet that Nolan abandoned so might as well prepare for the future you gonna have to face one day