Ferrari 430 Scuderia versus Challenge Stradale - the ULTIMATE silver showdown!
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Ferrari 430 Scuderia versus Challenge Stradale - the ULTIMATE silver showdown!
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What a day! This week’s episode is brought to you by TCG fan and subscriber, Steve, who invited us to visit his silver Ferrari collection.And drive his 430 Scuderia! At last, we get to drive this lightweight V8 legend.
So this week it’s the Ferrari Challenge Stradale versus 430 Scuderia in a feature-length review on British roads. Damian has never driven a ‘Scud’ before, and this is the perfect opportunity to pitch the two cars against each other.
Which car will win? Which sounds the best? Which is the more accomplished overall drive? Will TheCarGuys prefer the Scuderia and replace the Challenge Stradale? Will they ever give the 430 back to Steve? All these questions and more will be answered in this week’s episode.
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Buy a Scud and convert your CS to manual.
You're welcome. Let me know if you'd like any other tips on how to spend hundreds of thousands of pounds.
Julian Evans 😂😂😂
I concur
Julian Evans Could you convert that number to US dollars please? For context. Thanks.
Juhstopaskinme Hwatmynameis billions of dollars...
@@zXPeterz14 not anymore! Bloody brexit at it again
The Scuderia for me is a way better car, noticeably quicker. the CS a fun car though, but the Scud is more edgy, I felt scared driving it, where as the CS is a much tamer animal. raw in feel, but just doesn't have that edge of your seat sensation that the Scud. has.
Can't believe I actually liked every single one in Silver. Nice change from usual Red.
Yes it is, isn't it
Sexy ladies.
One of my least favorite Ferrari colors is the Russo Corsa. IMO the two favorite colors are the silvers and the Blu Corsa.
And it really is a shame to lose these noises, when realistically super and hyper cars could happily stay as they were and not cause global warming.
Blanket rules as always, don’t make sense.
By all means, make mainstream cars change to help the environment, clean energy and electric cars if we have to.
But it’s unnecessary to kill off special cars.
Absolutely. It's hugely important how much pollution my Ford Focus puts out, because there are loads of them. With Ferraris the numbers are small enough not to matter. They should have an exclusion for low-volume manufacturers. (So, Porsche would still be screwed, but that's there fault for making SUVs.)
100% agree with this!
i was thinking about this through the whole video.. i am ruling out buying a new car and going with a 4 year old one just to avoid the ppf so manufactures are going to be losing a lot of sales if people like me want some sounds from their car
The 360CS with a manual conversion would be my choice out of the bunch.
Scuderia has always been my favourite, continues to be my favourite. I think it always may be!
One of my happiest life moments was briefly driving a Ferrari f430 Spyder. Just up and down my street, but I'll never forget it. That generation holds a significant place in my heart and imagination. Even though I'm mostly a 911 guy right now, the f430 is probably the only Ferrari I'd jump at if I had a chance.
What a great comparison... These supercars are iconic! At the end of the day the Challenge Stradale is still one of my favourites...
The eco-movement helps us all to maintain to keep those cars running longer... Therefore the different way of thinking is much appreciated and we can drive or favourites cars longer... :-)
what an amazing reunion, all in silver all beautiful
It's the 5 valves per cylinder that make the CS sound so awesome. F355 had the same setup and hence the magical exhaust note everyone loves. Ferrari haven't done 5 valves per cylinder since the 360 & CS.
Sell the CS to me with a contract that I’ll sell it back to you for the same price after a year once you inevitably regret the decision and want it back 🤷🏻♂️
😂😂😂
"Grandad can still dance." What phrase!!
Epic cars, CS still sounds the best. Don’t add a Scud, add a 16M and let that V8 noise in
Owning a Scud I’m a bit biased. Of the same camp as a certain Chris Harris and would/did take the Scud over the CS just due to the “pants” transmission in the CS and the still modern speed of the Scud.
Agree that a manual CS would be the pinnacle!! Great review!!
I absolutely love the simple steering wheel and rudimentary vents on the 360! I can't stand all the clutter you get on steering wheels nowadays. These Ferrari's look so good in silver! I particularly have always loved the rear lights on the Scuderia from day 1. While i do love the rawness of the earlier Ferrari's, the 458 Speciale & 488 Pista definitely have the looks and performance.
VERY WELL DONE. The split views were the only way to communicate those changes well. Straight forward, conversation style descriptions based on ample seat-time experience. No pathetic attempt to be “cool”, “hip”, or conversely, dorky. Thanks, I don’t want my time back.
Huzzah. Anyone that knows me know that I’m not cool
Best lineup ever , magnificent.
From a scud owner I think the scud and the spéciale are the best cars...
The CS, Scud and speciale are my Favourite and i would own them in that order, and maybe try a Pista
I've driven the "normal" 360 and the sound of the V8 was intoxicating, something you remember for the rest of your life. I can't imagine the sound of those special edition Ferrari V8s, they must be fantastic! Thanks for another great vid..
You're welcome
EPIC! Steve is a hero, both for having (and sharing) all 3 cars and for not speccing any of them in red! Muchos jealous, but thank you so much for sharing. Must have been a rather awesome day!
Having owned two of each of those, I agree with you. The performance difference isn’t much different for the Scud and it’s nowhere near as beautiful. The Scud is a fantastic car but the CS is just so special.
Great comparisons. I reckon I prefer the looks of the 430 out of them all: it's a very close thing with the 458, but the 430 has a much nicer interior for me - always hated the vents in the 458 and the 488.
Love the Aquanaut too!
Great video. I owned a 2004 CS and I miss it every time I think about it. That sound is amazing and the video just doesn't do it justice. You need to be inside the car to really understand it. I was waiting for the interview with Steve. Did he decide to buy one? Did he enjoy the rawness and music of the CS over his other cars? I'm really curious what he thought. Great video. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Lovely to see and hear, thanks for sharing 👍🏁
10/10 spec, just for the driving pleasure, no crazy colours or carbon overdose. Dream combo!
I like the mood of this video. Despite the fact, that some cars are older, nothing bad was said about it. Even when some design features were smaller or "not that good" compared to the newer ones, it was poetic descibed and put in place. Excellent video!
Thanks, Kai
Possibly my most favourite ever RUclips video
Good lord! Thanks
brilliant ! a treat seeing all four together and interesting to hear the Challenge Stradale is the one you want.
Thanks, Roger
Great to watch this pure unadulterated car indulgence! Thank you once again!
Since subscribing and watching this channel I have noticed I've become quite a Ferrari Fanboy. A Challenge Stradale, a 430 Scud, 458 Speciale and a 488 Pista. Gentlemen, there are no losers here!
Surely Steve needs to buy your CS to complete his collection..... 😁 Great video, cheers guys! 👍🏻👌🏻
Excellent video Damian ! I enjoyed
Great vid. I love the rawness of the earlier cars. A manual CS would be perfection for me.
Two of my all time favourite cars...but i have to say that I like the Scuderia a bit more. I love how brutal they are. (In the Scuderia you should stay flat on the upshifts, that will make the gear changes faster and will give you that brutal kick on the back).
When i will get some money probably the 430 will be my buy :D
Damian, great day out. Cracking video - thanks for letting me drive your CS.
👍👍👍 Thanks for letting me loose in your Scud - epic day!
Great video, nice to see the roads around Wentworth still good ... keep up the good work!
Fantastic Vid Damian! What an awesome day to see them all together!
It was epic 👍😀
That 360 looks the best HOLY SHEEEEET
Greta Thurnburg approved 😂😂. We need to enjoy these beautiful machines while we still can because in 10yrs all cars will sound the same, drive the same, and go equally fast.
Great video but I feel your bias may be showing a touch. It would’ve been great to get Steve’s input on the CS at the end. While many would agree with comments around the CS being more of a pure race car feel/experience, The only thing you shared as being a negative against the Scud was the transmission. To a casual viewer watching your video one would assume that the CS was just as fast as the Scud (its not close). What really differentiates the scud is not just the significantly faster (tested) speeds on paper, it’s the experience of that speed behind the wheel while your head snaps back on the brutal shifts (3X CS speed). You laugh out loud every time and that experience is a differentiated one to the CS.
Damo, thanks properly presenting the C.Stadale, had no idea why so wonderful no idea what everyone was on about. From a former 4200GT Cambiocorsa 'F1' rubbish gearbox Maserati owner
Speciale is the one for me 👌🏻 such a pretty car. However......I think you should get a Scud for your collection!
Great to get them all together. I did a video a while back with CS, Scuderia and Speciale. Nothing sounds like the CS and I love yours in silver.
Thanks, Mark
The Silver Gang its loose causing havoc!!!!
Ferrari`s for the WIN.... OMG... Thanks Damian to bring us this magnificent reunion!!!!
Rodrigo Pando Cairo You’re welcome my friend
Really great video and comparison.
I have both CS and Scuderia and prefer the CS any day as it is so raw and direct.
Wonderful stuff. You just can’t find quality info on these legends anymore. Thanks for sharing bro!
You used the word raw. And that's what I would spend my money on.
The latest tech doesn't mean the best experience.
Awsome video, 👍👍👍
turbo... just no.... why ferrari.....
I had a 16M
Daily drove it here in California for a year
Best drivers car I’ve owned
Masterpiece ( liked it more than the 458 I replaced it with )
You're a legend
Very enjoyable video. That noise of the CS is exquisite. Very special. Not all about outright speed really, its the experience, which you clearly absolutely found intoxicating. Good on you Damian. Like your new web site too.
Thanks, Jon
Thanks guys! I follow a lot of car you tubers. But I really love your content, I think your the best!! (Ok maybe together with STG) love your collection!! And can’t wait for new content and the new cars!!!
Thanks, Tom - appreciate it
Silver is my fav paint job on any car. Love this video. I wish the cars had no stripes :)
I'm bored of my 07 silver civic. Better in red.
Really enjoyed the detail of this video. The description of Challenge Stradale reminds me so much of my Alfa 4C! Apart from the engine noise!
Thank you for a very thorough review from someone who have driven both back to back. It appears the CS is more raw. I’m surprised the brakes are better on the CS.
Thank you very much, Tu Ho
You’ve inspired me to compose a song and call it second gear beans
😂😂😂
Fantastic video guys. Real pro presentation!!
Thanks, Elliot
“Grandad can still Dance”. Terrific Summation right there of the Challenge Stradale. Love your channel Damian. Think what this video says is just how special that sound and drive is. My money, which it isn’t, would never let go of the 360 special edition. Raw, visceral, brutal. One of the anchors to Ferrari lineage in your terrific garage and in keeping with The company’s core values. Great video as always !!
Thanks, mate
Absolutely brilliant video. Great idea for a comparison especially as both of you had not driven the alternative car 👍
Fantastic to see all the special variants in one place.
Yes that’s what I thought 👍
This is the best video on RUclips period! This video is a legend. You my friend areva legend. Well done!
Raw seems so right, love the steering wheel with nothing on it👍 Great vid as always guys.
Chris Harris chose the Scud over all the lightweight v8 Ferrari. That man knows his Ferrari!
Each to his own
You should have mentioned what Steve thought of the CS vs Scud as well for a double comparison from the owner of each :) Did he get a CS as well?
Amazing report and experience! Saturday morning, a good coffee, TheCarGuys and Ferrari , what else?
Antonio Pérez Medina Excellent - enjoy!
With 458 Speciale and soon Pista Spider in the garage I would have thought it would be one or other of the CS and the Scud - unless you are in a particularly completist mood. Which seems to be the conclusion you reached.
Terrific video, btw. Keep them coming!! 👍
The Stradale has aged well. I wouldn’t be surprised Steve didn’t try to buy yours to complete the set... Great vid 👍
Surprised by some of your conclusions. Did you have SF2 engaged, it disengages if you lift - you certainly would of seen a huge difference and not considered ever lifting when above 5k - 250% faster than the CS. You don’t get it unless you are in Race or above - suspension is also harder in Race or above and then you need the Schumacher button. You had the comfort pack in that Scud to hide the welds! As you know I had a CS before the 16M. Brakes superior in the CS? Not unless the Scud’s were glazed. Scud is also not far behind the Speciale for performance and a good deal ahead of the CS.
Excellent video and a day to remember you lucky things! Thanks for sharing!!
Great video as always, what a line up, the Scuderia was the Ferrari of my time and I absolutely love it. The Challenge Stradale probably looks abit better and sounds better though. Silver suits both of them so so well. Unbelievable.
Very useful vid. Split screen on differences between 458 Me 488 a great idea. Never been quite sure of the differences. Now I am! So thanks for this vid which had something rather unique to offer.
Really enjoyed that, spot on chaps, great video
Thanks, Rich
I had the privilege to drive many times a yellow gated manual CS with titanium exhaust. There's nothing better than it !! It's orgasmic!
And i've driven tens of supercars (for work).
430 Scuderia was a close second.
I love the car guys' style of presenting... It's soo much fun to watch and quite informative 🙂🙂
We try
My dad has had a challenge stradale we used to pick up our. Takeaway food in it. Me and my dad have also had many Ferrari’s in the past , now he owns a Ferrari ff and we think your videos are high quality from Lyle 11 years old
I’d have the 360 CS in a heartbeat. The Scud a close 2nd though. The 360 is just pure and raw.
I'd gone off this channel but I couldn't resist checking this vid out.....very good, pleased I did as I enjoyed it a lot. Thanks.
Huzzah!
Proper video Damian..cheers! I was nodding in agreement with everything you were saying.
Both epic cars of course but the CS is still the one.
The hardcore variants aren't meant to be refined!
CS gearbox adds to the experience of driving it. Also Scud noise sounds synthetic after a CS!
Look forward to the next video.
Cheers,
Chris
Thanks, Chris 👍👍
Silver is such a rare color and is stunning 😍😍
Steve's a genius, he's going to end up with your Challenge Stradale, all his cars are silver and yours is silver so it's pretty much guaranteed. I'd sell it to him so he can complete his collection and get something else.
Ah, but mine has a red interior and all Steve’s cars are black
@@TheCarGuysTV Change the interior? The exterior color is the most important thing I would think.
Very good video, as always. Someday, I’ll need a black / black Scuderia, a grey F 430 was my first Ferrari, unfortunately I sold it to a friend. Greetings from Germany.
Greetings
The CS is the most beautiful of all of the ferrari v8's imho. The lines with the modified side skirts and bumpers are simply perfect. Great video!
Great stuff. You guys have hit it out of the ballpark with this one (I don’t know what the equivalent in cricket is to this American saying).
Shmee just did a triple Ferrari vid today. Cool cosmic coincidence. It’d be awesome to see both of your channels do a collab. I’m a Shmee fan too but I do appreciate the level of quality editing you incorporate into your vids unlike other auto ‘tubers. It hasn’t gone unnoticed. Keep doing what you’re doing. The views and subs will come. Just be patient.
Thanks for those great comments, and it’s awesome you’ve noticed the editing/production
TheCarGuys.TV U bet and yeah great edit/prod. Where I live I’m surrounded by the Hollywood machine. Not in the industry myself. How do you Brits say, “Not my cup of tea?” But I do think I have an eye for that kinda thing. In the vein of 3’s today, I like the transitions, variety of camera angles and steady camera. What I don’t like as much is other auto’tubers with their convenient one-cut approach with that swirling around they do whatever that swirling around thing is that they are constantly doing. Makes me feel sea sick after awhile. I know that it takes longer to put out vids by putting in that level of effort but it shows. Besides, I’d rather dine at the Ritz with TheCarGuys than at McDonalds with other ‘tubers. Oh, and you guys are funny too! But don’t cuss (for the kids). Your mum would agree.
Cheerio, y’all!
Loved that review, thank you
Split screen just wonderful thanks Damian brilliant!!
Always trying to improve
I disagree Re: The Scuderia. Chris Harris summed it up perfectly. Wonderful car. Best of the bunch. Wonderful noises from both the old boys, but the Scud sounds even better to me.
Another consideration is if you feel like replacing cam belts, or not.
Definitely the challenge is superior and assembled in reparto corse. The challenge is a race car for the road
Prefer the noise of the Scud 😅😍
4.3 L v8....
Epic comparison with epic cars. Great video again & such an education, well done. If I were even remotely lucky enough to own either, my preference would be the Challenge Stradale based on what I have seen. It really is a gem of a car & definitely a keeper! Cant wait for the next instalment 👍
Wonderful cars and what a joy to see them together!
Great cars. Great video. Fantastic Patek 😎👌🏻
KING of Sound Damian !!! thank you so much for sharing ..... What a Stunning line up of Stallions ......im in love with your macchina......she is a dream..... Cheers my Friend !!!
The Best Sounding F1 Engine: Ferrari 3.0L V12 - 1995 Ferrari 412 T2 Sound
👏👏
360 CS and 430 Scuderia for me
I hope one day your garage will look like that lol including TDF lol epic episode!
360CS for life!! However, you made yourself a great case for a 16M to differientiate the 430's place in your garage from the CS.
Yes I did, didn't I?
Just keeps getting better and better week after week. Friday is my favourite RUclips day of the week waiting for you to drop the next cracking instalment. Damian you my friend are just brilliant and the access to cars and events and launches are second to none. This video and the cars in it has to be any Ferrari lovers dream come true, I hope you add a 430 “Scud” to your wonderful collection.
Thanks, Mark - very nice of you to say
Fantastic to see the passion, great cars being driven and enjoyed.
👍👍
Keep the challenge stradale 😈💪🏾
I enjoy that video Damian. Epic soundtrack. We would all love your collection!