I saw Tommy Wiseau at a single-theater screening of The Room with an introductory Q&A and when asked about his favorite band he said: “My favorite band is METALLICA RULES”
Also, when he parks, half the rear of the car is beyond the curb. The logic, of "Oh hi Johnny, I didn't recognize you," was beyond crazy (since who looks like him?) and then saying he was her favorite customer (after supposedly not recognizing him. The dog in the scene served no purpose, as was true of most of the characters in the film.
I love the shot when Mark is holding the psychologist at the edge of the building. Remember in Shawshank Redemption when Andy Dufresne is held at the end of the building by the officer after he mentions "do you trust your wife?" and the shot goes overhead to show the danger of falling? I love how Wiseau shoots that shot upward towards the sky where you feel no danger and see no threat of the fall. Everything is backwards in The Room.
We need Rob Ager to do a seventy-minute video essay about spatial disorientation in _The Room_ and how it points to Tommy's deeper narrative or some shit.
@DistractedGlobeGuy It's as believable that Kubrick did that deliberately in _The Shining_ as it is he didn't give a shit and was amused by people trying to find hidden meaning in the fact the hotel makes no sense spatially. Kubrick rarely did anything without good reason but he also knew what mattered to the audience. Logical consistency in set design is rarely something viewers notice unless it's really, really incongruous. It was probably something he was aware of and had a chuckle about. It's in keeping with the Overlook Hotel being some kind of supernatural domain, but leaving that suggestion in the background, barely perceptible, works just fine 🤷🏻♂️
@@mrkeogh oh I don't dispute for a moment that Kubrick intentionally used disorientation to subtly immerse his audience in the atmospheric horror of _The Shining._ That's exactly why I think it would be so funny to see somebody try to analyse _The Room_ as if it were equally deep and well-planned.
I always pictured Tommy W in an English class. Every assignment he turns in is over the top drama. The teacher says, "You should make these into a movie!" "Ha ha ha. That's the idea!"
The shot of Tommy casually putting in the cassette into the recorder, with Mike saying "This scene is just... ridiculously insane." kills me for some reason
Like some of their other critiques though, their freakout over the tape recorder supposedly running out of time is unwarranted; at the time the technology had existed for decades, to just tap a phone with a tape recorder that would automatically start rolling for calls and stop after the person hung up. Every dodgy PI had a recorder like that in the 70s and 80s.
@@Kaanfight It should be an edifying read, if Tommy still keeps copies of it; from Greg Sestero’s observation of the screenplay BEFORE it was script-doctored, Tommy’s grasp of English dialogue is limited.
So what? Edit: I know it’s from when he wrote a “stage play.” But he never even performed it on stage! What doesn’t make sense is why he would keep the title for a FILM, which had different “locations” throughout San Francisco, even though it was filmed in Los Angeles. This is why Tommy Wiseau was so incompetent. He could’ve easily changed the setting to Los Angeles so that he could get good footage on actual locations. But instead, he’s insane. There’s literally hundreds of things wrong with this film, which any competent person could’ve made for less than $100k. Instead, he spent $6,000,000 on it, lmfao.
@@jeffw8218 Lower budget stageplays are often written in a way that only ever uses one location, that way they can make one really good set and not have to waste time and money on having scene changes. The show was called “The Room” because LITERALLY everything takes place in the exact same room. That was the point in his mind-one room can be the site of lovemaking, friendship, discussions of cancer, cheating, fights, confrontations with drug dealers, and tragic suicide. All taking place inside one “Room”
The line "...she ended up in a hospital at Guerrero Street" was ad libbed by Greg because Tommy kept forgetting his lines (shocker) but that street was actually the name of the street where Tommy's apartment was, Tommy was pissed because it revealed his location (only Greg knew where he lived) but they had to use that take since it was the best take they had
That's interesting. I didn't know he lived in the Mission. I think he may have meant to say "Potrero" though, because San Francisco General Hospital is indeed on Potrero Ave. Guerrero is different street in the Mission District; it runs approximately 2.3 miles (3.7 kilometers) from Market Street in the north to Cesar Chavez in the south. There are thousands of rental units on that street.
@@theITGuy-no3nt A year late, I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it, I personally loved it but then again I was gifted the book at a surprise screening of The Room with Greg signing the book and giving autographs to fans. I also used Audible because Greg narrated the book and does a Tommy impression during his parts
9:15 I'm betting that his widely varying energy levels are a result of him just getting more and more tired as they shoot scenes and him not being enough of an actor to hide it. So his energy level would appear higher in scenes that took fewer takes to shoot and lower in scenes that took more.
@PAUL McCARTNEY he admitted to Greg in the disaster artist book he had been struck by a car in his youth. Being Broken, put back together, then forever dependent on pain meds changes a person, they become weird like him. Aka strange narcissist
I recently watched a 20th Anniversary showing of The Room with Greg doing a bit of live commentary. He says it makes so much more sense if you imagine Denny is a cat. And he's right.
A sequel needs to happen where Johnny is up in heaven. He's doing great, everyone loves him, and he's even met a new future wife up there. The only problem is that she's having an affair with Johnny's best friend, God himself. Let's see how it all plays out!
When Johnny finds out about his new wife's affair with God, he kills himself again, which causes him to come back to life on Earth. Not only do Johnny's friends have to adjust to a newly-resurrected Johnny, but Johnny goes on Crow-style rampage, killing cheating spouses everywhere.
I disagree massively. You have to watch the movie from start to finish by yourself. Every single thing jumps out in sharp focus, there's a lot of funny stuff you'll miss it youre not paying attention.
12:30 I might be giving Tommy Wiseau too much credit although he has clear moments of self-awareness. Jay himself told a story about how he completely lost interest in Samurai Cop after learning about all the unanswered questions. Maybe the reasons Tommy doesn’t answer them is that he wants to keep his mystique. If he just told everything, everyone who lose interest.
@@aarondavis8943 I want to see a film about the life of Tommy that explores how he became this person. I saw The Disaster Artist on a plane once, but that was really more a movie about Greg Sestero and Tommy was left as the weirdo enigma. I wanna see the wild, wholly fictionalized backstory of Tommy Wiseau on screen.
You will lough, but there are various theories who say something like this. The most plausible is this: Tommy Wiseau's movie was a money laundry operation, which is not uncommon with lots of low-budget movies. Then Tommy got carried away by his ego to become a ''big movie star'' and afterwards the whole thing went viral. According to Sestero's book, Tommy financed the whole thing out of his own pocket and allegedly he got the money from various import and real-estate deals. (Tommy claimed he imported designer clothes and toys from Asia and sold real-estate.) That would explain all the secrecy surrounding Tommy's past etc. He even went so far to threaten an investigative journalist who was researching him with a cease & desist order, some years ago. We still don't know his real name, birth place etc. etc.
@@doublep1980 The strangest thing about Tommy to me is that he doesnt look or sound like he’s from any European country in particular despite that being the only origin point that makes sense for him. His name implies some kind of French Ancestry but it’s probably fake. If I had to guess I’d probably pick the Netherlands, Switzerland or some former USSR country as his potential birth place.
that tape recorder plugged into the phone line is completely reasonable, answering machines used to record to tape only when the phone was used and someone left a message so there's precedent
My fiance ordered a pair of Tommy Wiseau boxers for me as a gift one year for Christmas. It came with a autographed photo of Tommy, signed with a date that had not happened yet.
2:40 Remaking the Room as a film student project sounds like a pretty cool idea though - sounds like a good way to explore techniques and concepts for rehabilitating a wonky script.
it also lessens the pressure and fear of making the film because if you fail, well its just a remake of the Room, its still funny. So you can either lean into the comedy or try to remake it and 'fix' it, using the stuff you've studied in film studies.
@@GuineaPigEveryday knowing film professors, it would definitely have to be a competent remake or else there’d be no point to the assignment. You’re in film school to learn how to make good films, not bad ones
I never understood how the stairs to the roof fit behind that door. And I also never understood how absurdly small the roof was and I can never unsee it
Imagine Earth ending violently, torn asunder by celestial forces. You are alone in a void of gently floating space debris. In your personal darkness you hear but two words reverberate amongst the miasma of a dead world. " _Me underwear's_ ...."
He lifted it like an empty records box 😂 Either that TV was gutted, or Tommy has been working out by sword fighting fellow immortals for the last 700 years.
I have The Room on DVD, so I'd seen it a bunch of times before I saw it in the theatre, and I genuinely didn't know about the spoon thing until dozens of people were hurling spoons at the screen
Ben and Arthur is a failed movie mostly due to its low budget, if you gave Sam Mraovich the same budget as Tommy Wiseau, he would've made a better movie, he doesn't have the ego of Wiseau for one
There is a local art theatre that screens The Room every week and has for years. They constantly send out emails pining for donations because they are having trouble making ends meet. They were insulted when I sent a dollar and suggested screening anything but The Room. Maybe one day they will put two and two together.
I think the two strangers who show up to mess around in the house was actually suppose to be Lisa and Mark but something happened and maybe it was the actor playing Mark didn't want to come in to shoot the scene. Instead of rewrites or dropping the scene Tommy used two random actors instead.
@@Astorath_the_Grim yeah I know, nowhere in my comment do I make a claim otherwise. This scene and the comment has nothing to do with Tommy's roll. It's about why two strangers randomly show up in Tommy's house and fool around. It makes no sense but if it was a production issue then it starts to make more sense. If I remember correctly something is said in the movie about the affair that hints at this scene being Mark and Lisa instead which lead me to believe it was a problem behind the scenes. I would have to watch the movie again to refresh my memory.
Nah according to the book it was always meant to be those two characters. Tommy doesn't really understand that you shouldn't add characters that don't have anything to do with the rest of the film.
@@SeruraRenge11 See, Kevin up there made the mistake of assuming there is some reasonable explanation for stuff other than the pure randomness of Tommy Wiseau.
10:55 That tape recorder had futuristic dashcam technology where it records continually and automatically records over the oldest material (if you encounter any adulterous conversations you want to save, just click the "OK" button to preserve the preceding few minutes)
people probably know this, but the guy at 13:37 is supposed to be Peter, the bespectacled psychologist friend from earlier in the film. the actor supposedly had another acting contract scheduled for later in the year and they had not filmed the last few scenes of The Room by that time, so he left and they had to have some random actor take his place.
A lot of the room actually looks and sounds competently made. Tommy spent six million and did have a crew with some experience. I believe they had to hire a second DP or maybe it was an entire crew because the original quit. I'm not sure the crew can really be blamed for the most amateurish stuff when Wisseau was directing.
Three DPs if I remember correctly. And like you said, two crews. Towards the end they were so tired they stopped caring about anything. Just make Tommy say his line in a coherent way and done, next scene. :)
10:45 there is a switch that can be used with old tape recorders and phone lines that will not record until the phone line is in use and stop when the phone is hung up.
7:15 If you look you can clearly see that the back of the stairwell shed-thing on the roof is either open or closed at the back, when viewed from the back or front respectively, so they must've made one with a closed back where people are seen entering the roof, and a separate open-backed one just to show the backs of people walking up to the roof, in order to sell that it's an actual stairwell people are walking up, and not just an obvious cubicle they're just popping out of. This would have to be in a different location and thus partly explain why the roof scenes were so expensive; and that form of both clever and incongruous is just so Wiseau-ian. ;)
ok so a long time ago when new grounds was the big thing (so around 2003-2005) i remember seeing a game of the room and i played it not knowing wtf the room was and my god i was lost lmao. i was laughing at how bad it was cuz they used sound clips from the movie lol. after that i looked up that fuckin movie and watched it. the game was like an rpg game. you played through the whole movie as tommy and you had to go get coffee with mark as a quest and go to your job at the bank as another quest. i miss new grounds
That game was legitimately fun and hilarious. I beat it at least 3 or 4 times. Only real ones know about that special alternate ending that actually explains the movie which is only unlocked by collecting all of the hidden spoons.
I think Tommy is related to some rich monarchy old family from europe and he hid his background because he wanted to be an actor but his family thought it was beneath him. that is where he gets all his money.
I don't buy that the Room was originally intended as a black comedy/joke film, as Tommy Wiseau's initial reaction when it became a Manos and the Hands of Fate-like cult film was incredibly hostile and litigious. He threatened to sue Nostalgia Critic as well as others, and had tons of youtube videos on the Room DMCA'd. You don't react like that when you were intending to say "got you!" all along... In fact, Tommy was one of the first shitheads to file false DMCA claims against youtubers en-masse. He did it before Digital Homicide and Day One Garry's Incident, before it was even a thing people knew about. Real trailblazer...
"Nobody knew what happened to the Samurai Cop" There were only two places he could be in: -Back in Japan, for further Samurai training. -Or back on the streets in San Diego, where he was still needed.
The gun at the end is supposed to be the same gun our heroes seized from Chris R. It's implied (I guess) that they took Chris to the very local police station, but kept the gun for themselves future use.
I do feel the need to point out that Tommy Wiseau has said that the gun IS Chris R.'s gun. That scene was in the movie to establish that they characters had a gun which they took from Chris R.
11:10 I have seen this twice in theaters and I've never processed this story. This is always the point of the film where I break and completely lose it in laughter and on one occasion I struggled not to spit out the beer I had just chugged.
I had so many questions the first time I watched it. I'll re-watch it every few years , thinking I'll find some answers to previous questions, but instead I'm left with even more questions. I'll never learn my lesson.
Omg! I never noticed the stairs off the roof. He's ascending into the void! WTF. Its almost haunted image material it's so offputting to now have noticed after several viewings.
This played in a repertory theater back in grad school and Tommy was there. My buddy asked him what shampoo he uses and Tommy said "Hahahaha! Fuck you!" And that was the end of that.
2:41 nah, the ultimate film school project would be taking the framework established by The Room, and trying to rework it into a legitimately good film.
@@ElvenRaptorthey can always reach out to Mr. Wiseau. For better or worse, I think help could be secured free of charge; of course, Tommy will have _at least two_ speaking roles.
I fixed the cassette plot hole. They used to make automatic tape recorders. Once the recorder picks up a loud enough signal it will start recording to tape.
They're not speculating, that's eyewitness reporting from Greg Sestero (Mark). He spent a couple years working with Tommy on development of the film, where he witnessed Wiseau's heavy use of prescription painkillers, which he explained as a necessity that resulted from a serious car crash some time earlier.
I've never actually seen The Room but I basically know everything about it from internet osmosis. and I have to say, that scene with the football is far more bizarre and insane than anything I could have imagined.
Having not seen it I can tell you that you do not know basically everything about it buddy, trust me. Just go watch it finally and you won’t have to sound dumb anymore.
I saw Tommy Wiseau at a single-theater screening of The Room with an introductory Q&A and when asked about his favorite band he said: “My favorite band is METALLICA RULES”
Sick
Were his eyelids still on heroin?
That may be my favorite thing, just full stop.
I wonder if he's ever heard Nirvana the Band.
@@CERTAIND00M very weird that I was watching the Nirvana the Band the Show Wii shop channel video before I read this comment
i saw the room for the first time on adult swim with no context and i was like, "damn where do tim and eric find these people"
I thought they had taken adult swim off the air and changed it to some lifetime like channel.
Same way I saw it. Glorious
I thought it was softcover p"rn at first
😆😆😆
@@projectplus4036 I think it was April Fools. I remember one of the cards during the break just said, "What are you watching?"
I love that the flower shop is called "Anniversary flowers & gifts for all occasions", a name that literally specifies one single occasion
you are mistaken- they have flowers for anniversaries AND gifts for all occasions
@@Blaurot that's how I read it too
Also, when he parks, half the rear of the car is beyond the curb. The logic, of "Oh hi Johnny, I didn't recognize you," was beyond crazy (since who looks like him?) and then saying he was her favorite customer (after supposedly not recognizing him. The dog in the scene served no purpose, as was true of most of the characters in the film.
That was a real shop at 3463 16th Street in San Francisco and it really was called that. It closed down circa 2007; I don't remember exactly when.
@@Blaurot Yep. If you want flowers for a funeral or something, head elsewhere.
"I can't belive he committed suicide. How? How could he committed suicide?" 🤣
Room is okay but Tommy wiseu cant hold a candle to neil breen
"I can't help him out of this"
@@freebee8221 Yeah. Tommy never killed all the bad people in the world or exposed corruption at the bank and other high places.
Overdosed on Tums
Seeing the movie with no sound I can imagine it as having normal sounding delivery and actually being a competent film.
It's somewhat unsettling, kind of like liminal spaces.
The sex scenes are horrific without sound too.
I had the same thought aswell. If you haven’t seen it, the line delivery is part of it’s charm(?)
the fact that it was actually recorded on film makes it look A LOT better than it should
There is a Lynchian quality to the film. Everything is slightly off and makes you feel uneasy. It would work a lot better as a psychological horror.
The fact that Lisa has no justification is the most brilliant aspect.
She is just every woman basically
women amirite
@Nick K Tommy found about it beat them so bad they ended up in a hospital in gurerro street
She’s in a relationship with Tommy Wiseau. That’s more than enough justification
@@generalgk He gave Seven years of his laif to her, how can you say this about him? He's like an Angel, he's my favorite movie star.
"His energy levels change so much. He's like a cat..."
- Jay Bauman.
- Jay Bauman, noted cat killer
Goodnight sweet cats!
😂😂😂
@@Lowekinder God, the way Mike says "THOOOUSANDS OF CATS". He was so F'd up.
I think there was some speculation on whether or not Tommy had suffered brain damage in an accident.
I love the shot when Mark is holding the psychologist at the edge of the building. Remember in Shawshank Redemption when Andy Dufresne is held at the end of the building by the officer after he mentions "do you trust your wife?" and the shot goes overhead to show the danger of falling? I love how Wiseau shoots that shot upward towards the sky where you feel no danger and see no threat of the fall. Everything is backwards in The Room.
Like turning left to go down non-existent stairs from the roof, thus hitting a wall. So many things reind me of the major fail websites.
So basically the black lodge in twin peaks
We need Rob Ager to do a seventy-minute video essay about spatial disorientation in _The Room_ and how it points to Tommy's deeper narrative or some shit.
@DistractedGlobeGuy It's as believable that Kubrick did that deliberately in _The Shining_ as it is he didn't give a shit and was amused by people trying to find hidden meaning in the fact the hotel makes no sense spatially.
Kubrick rarely did anything without good reason but he also knew what mattered to the audience. Logical consistency in set design is rarely something viewers notice unless it's really, really incongruous. It was probably something he was aware of and had a chuckle about. It's in keeping with the Overlook Hotel being some kind of supernatural domain, but leaving that suggestion in the background, barely perceptible, works just fine 🤷🏻♂️
@@mrkeogh oh I don't dispute for a moment that Kubrick intentionally used disorientation to subtly immerse his audience in the atmospheric horror of _The Shining._
That's exactly why I think it would be so funny to see somebody try to analyse _The Room_ as if it were equally deep and well-planned.
This is where every new RLM fan comes to when they run out of BOTW episodes
Breath of the Wild is a video game. It doesn't have episodes.
@@mattjindrak Ive never thought about that, you funny guy!
Wow. Just wow.
I prefer Half in the Bag
I prefer The Nerd Crew but I'm an elitist snob.@@SnoopyReads
I always pictured Tommy W in an English class. Every assignment he turns in is over the top drama. The teacher says, "You should make these into a movie!" "Ha ha ha. That's the idea!"
Hahaha. What a story, Rob.
So how's your sex life rob?
I'll bet he's collected plenty more ideas over the years, which he'd like to put into practice some day.
The shot of Tommy casually putting in the cassette into the recorder, with Mike saying "This scene is just... ridiculously insane." kills me for some reason
I think it's cause you know he's seen 1000 terrible movies, and yet he can say with such conviction that this scene is above so many of them.
Same here. Such a great reaction.
Like some of their other critiques though, their freakout over the tape recorder supposedly running out of time is unwarranted; at the time the technology had existed for decades, to just tap a phone with a tape recorder that would automatically start rolling for calls and stop after the person hung up. Every dodgy PI had a recorder like that in the 70s and 80s.
"You're tearing me apart, Rich!"
The name “The Room” is a holdover from when Tommy Wiseau wrote this story as a stage play.
Oh god I wanna see that
@@Kaanfight It should be an edifying read, if Tommy still keeps copies of it; from Greg Sestero’s observation of the screenplay BEFORE it was script-doctored, Tommy’s grasp of English dialogue is limited.
@@rezalustig6773 wow, who could have thought a man so eloquently spoken could also be such a wordsmith with the pen
So what?
Edit: I know it’s from when he wrote a “stage play.” But he never even performed it on stage!
What doesn’t make sense is why he would keep the title for a FILM, which had different “locations” throughout San Francisco, even though it was filmed in Los Angeles. This is why Tommy Wiseau was so incompetent. He could’ve easily changed the setting to Los Angeles so that he could get good footage on actual locations. But instead, he’s insane. There’s literally hundreds of things wrong with this film, which any competent person could’ve made for less than $100k. Instead, he spent $6,000,000 on it, lmfao.
@@jeffw8218 Lower budget stageplays are often written in a way that only ever uses one location, that way they can make one really good set and not have to waste time and money on having scene changes. The show was called “The Room” because LITERALLY everything takes place in the exact same room. That was the point in his mind-one room can be the site of lovemaking, friendship, discussions of cancer, cheating, fights, confrontations with drug dealers, and tragic suicide. All taking place inside one “Room”
The line "...she ended up in a hospital at Guerrero Street" was ad libbed by Greg because Tommy kept forgetting his lines (shocker) but that street was actually the name of the street where Tommy's apartment was, Tommy was pissed because it revealed his location (only Greg knew where he lived) but they had to use that take since it was the best take they had
That's interesting. I didn't know he lived in the Mission. I think he may have meant to say "Potrero" though, because San Francisco General Hospital is indeed on Potrero Ave. Guerrero is different street in the Mission District; it runs approximately 2.3 miles (3.7 kilometers) from Market Street in the north to Cesar Chavez in the south. There are thousands of rental units on that street.
@@theITGuy-no3nt maybe it was his work location? He used to sell denim jackets, but in the book The Disaster Artist Greg specifically brings this up
@@Arcademan09 I just found The Disaster Artist on iPad so I'll add it to my stack of stuff. I didn't even know he lived here once.
@@Arcademan09 And for some reason yo-yo's. I just read the whole book and it is... well, not good.
@@theITGuy-no3nt A year late, I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it, I personally loved it but then again I was gifted the book at a surprise screening of The Room with Greg signing the book and giving autographs to fans. I also used Audible because Greg narrated the book and does a Tommy impression during his parts
“He spent 6 million dollars giving himself his own opportunity and then he half assed it.” - Rich
And then he succeeded and became world famous and made a great profit from the movie.
Absolute baller
Tommy Wiseau doesn’t look like any other human being on the planet.
Yeah, he looks 99 and 21 all at the same time in my opinion.
There's a shit ton of Tommy like creatures in Germany or wherever the fuck he comes from.
Peter Steele
He is alien
@@salomaonplanetsaturn6038 yeah like David Bowie
but somehow the complete opposite of David Bowie
9:15 I'm betting that his widely varying energy levels are a result of him just getting more and more tired as they shoot scenes and him not being enough of an actor to hide it. So his energy level would appear higher in scenes that took fewer takes to shoot and lower in scenes that took more.
It's coke. If you've ever been around a cokehead you know.
I don't think they took that many takes
@@solutionless123 At 15:10ish when he comes into the dancing scene, he's definitely either on a benzo or an opiate. 100%
I can’t imagine them nailing any scene in under twenty takes.
@PAUL McCARTNEY he admitted to Greg in the disaster artist book he had been struck by a car in his youth. Being Broken, put back together, then forever dependent on pain meds changes a person, they become weird like him. Aka strange narcissist
I recently watched a 20th Anniversary showing of The Room with Greg doing a bit of live commentary. He says it makes so much more sense if you imagine Denny is a cat. And he's right.
I just saw a showing last night. He said the same commentary. Interesting! He left partway through for most of the film and came back at the end.
That makes the scene where he comes in and just like awkwardly sits down by the window A LOT more sense lol
Gangster dude holding a cat down and pointing a gun at its head - WHERE'S MY _FUCKIN'_ MONEY, DENNY!?
@@drpibisback7680 Isn't that the normal way to deal with a cat?
A Room Prequel With 70 year old Tommy playing himself at High School with Mark and Lisa needs to happen
I think the most fascinating thing about this movie is contemplating the perception of reality it would have taken to write produce and direct it.
A sequel needs to happen where Johnny is up in heaven. He's doing great, everyone loves him, and he's even met a new future wife up there. The only problem is that she's having an affair with Johnny's best friend, God himself. Let's see how it all plays out!
When Johnny finds out about his new wife's affair with God, he kills himself again, which causes him to come back to life on Earth. Not only do Johnny's friends have to adjust to a newly-resurrected Johnny, but Johnny goes on Crow-style rampage, killing cheating spouses everywhere.
lol
Can you start a Kickstarter for this project?
oh, hai gohd
@@robertodell9193 he looks like the damn crow
i hope for a sequel of "the room" titled "the roof"
That's the prequel, the sequel is the reception area.
Followed by a third film: The Street
Is on fire
if it was Marvel there'd be the Chris R series which sets up wave 2, with Denny, Chris R and Peter the Psychiatrist
Spin off series: touch football
8:58 It takes an especially absurd movie to bring out that kind of Rich Evans laugh. Delightful!
Literally Palpatine
This must be a great movie to react to because you never have to worry that you'll talk over something important
Except for the crucial line I just got back the test results I definitely have breast cancer
I disagree massively. You have to watch the movie from start to finish by yourself. Every single thing jumps out in sharp focus, there's a lot of funny stuff you'll miss it youre not paying attention.
“His suit was tailored for a gorilla!” - Rich Evans
I choked on my ice cream.
And ironically you were eating Chunky Monkey.
I mean, here's his true form which is pretty apelike 19:08
@@brotherbisquick He was eating Chunky A*P*E. Awesomely Palatable ice crEam.
12:30 I might be giving Tommy Wiseau too much credit although he has clear moments of self-awareness.
Jay himself told a story about how he completely lost interest in Samurai Cop after learning about all the unanswered questions. Maybe the reasons Tommy doesn’t answer them is that he wants to keep his mystique. If he just told everything, everyone who lose interest.
@David Nash Tommy has been betrayed too many times to open himself up to anyone.
@@aarondavis8943 I want to see a film about the life of Tommy that explores how he became this person. I saw The Disaster Artist on a plane once, but that was really more a movie about Greg Sestero and Tommy was left as the weirdo enigma. I wanna see the wild, wholly fictionalized backstory of Tommy Wiseau on screen.
I sometimes think Wiseau is some real life Keyser Soze who wanted to be in film and blew his witness protection cover to do so
You will lough, but there are various theories who say something like this.
The most plausible is this: Tommy Wiseau's movie was a money laundry operation, which is not uncommon with lots of low-budget movies. Then Tommy got carried away by his ego to become a ''big movie star'' and afterwards the whole thing went viral.
According to Sestero's book, Tommy financed the whole thing out of his own pocket and allegedly he got the money from various import and real-estate deals. (Tommy claimed he imported designer clothes and toys from Asia and sold real-estate.)
That would explain all the secrecy surrounding Tommy's past etc.
He even went so far to threaten an investigative journalist who was researching him with a cease & desist order, some years ago. We still don't know his real name, birth place etc. etc.
@@doublep1980 The strangest thing about Tommy to me is that he doesnt look or sound like he’s from any European country in particular despite that being the only origin point that makes sense for him. His name implies some kind of French Ancestry but it’s probably fake. If I had to guess I’d probably pick the Netherlands, Switzerland or some former USSR country as his potential birth place.
Possibly. Or like an unknown Hunter Biden artist/evil elite.
@@uberd3323 he was born in Poland, but lived in France for a long time
@@sandorenckell5259 I dont know if I believe that
that tape recorder plugged into the phone line is completely reasonable, answering machines used to record to tape only when the phone was used and someone left a message so there's precedent
Yea but what if someone makes an hour long phone call lol
My fiance ordered a pair of Tommy Wiseau boxers for me as a gift one year for Christmas.
It came with a autographed photo of Tommy, signed with a date that had not happened yet.
Like 3/14/2057? What do you think happens when we reach that day
He's from Europe, right?
The date might've been written in DD/MM/YYYY instead of MM/DD/YYYY.
I didn't know Mars also had a Europe
He looks like 'unfrozen caveman lawyer'
2:40 Remaking the Room as a film student project sounds like a pretty cool idea though - sounds like a good way to explore techniques and concepts for rehabilitating a wonky script.
"Fix It In Post 101"?
it also lessens the pressure and fear of making the film because if you fail, well its just a remake of the Room, its still funny. So you can either lean into the comedy or try to remake it and 'fix' it, using the stuff you've studied in film studies.
I really hope some film teacher wrote that one down
@@GuineaPigEveryday knowing film professors, it would definitely have to be a competent remake or else there’d be no point to the assignment. You’re in film school to learn how to make good films, not bad ones
It deserves a Broadway musicle
I never understood how the stairs to the roof fit behind that door. And I also never understood how absurdly small the roof was and I can never unsee it
Re: the small roof, I mean it IS a San Francisco row house... :P
Its also a set, and not outside.
You step to the left, drop through a 1 foot wide slot and onto the couch. That's why there's sheets on it, so people's shoes don't scuff it up.
Youre my favorite customer
Hey that roof cost them $10K a month in San Francisco!
8:09 Say what you will, but whoever put the background on the greenscreen in every rooftop scene nailed the parallax effect.
Agreed.
13:38
"I walked in from the audience, I just got so involved"
Hahahaha
I saw the room live with Tommy there. It was the most miserable experience of my life.
I saw “The Room” in San Francisco on my birthday with Tommy there. Best birthday of my life!
@@waynechapman9823
They say he'll play football-catch with fans, sometimes, if he's in the mood. 😁
A football is like a brother to Tommy.
Imagine Earth ending violently, torn asunder by celestial forces.
You are alone in a void of gently floating space debris.
In your personal darkness you hear but two words reverberate amongst the miasma of a dead world.
" _Me underwear's_ ...."
I would play this game if it were made into an interactive fiction text adventure.
17:09 he lifted a CRT over his head and rushed it to the nearest window and Tossed it off
jesus christ that's superhuman strength
If you put into thought that Tommy’s original idea was that Johnny was a 300 year old vampire, it makes sense
To be fair, it’s probably 14 inch
He lifted it like an empty records box 😂 Either that TV was gutted, or Tommy has been working out by sword fighting fellow immortals for the last 700 years.
@@brandonobaza8610 I'm sad that there's no good way to convey Tommy's strange accent in text so I can make a "THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!" joke.
I have The Room on DVD, so I'd seen it a bunch of times before I saw it in the theatre, and I genuinely didn't know about the spoon thing until dozens of people were hurling spoons at the screen
Was that the moment you realized you’d actually joined a cult?
I just like to watch you guys
I’ve always been glad they did this commentary. The Room is too well known for Best of the Worst, but it’s still great to hear them talk about it
Its funny because when BoTW first started The Room was still pretty underground and they prob could have done it. RLM has longevity.
The painkillers hypothesis is pretty intriguing.
His eyelids want to touch that molten iron core.
@@aarondavis8943 pupils are the tell not eyelids
17:08 For some reason I love the fact that the tv was sitting on two small pillars.
“Tommy Wiseau is a cat-like person that got hit by a bus” is not the take I expected, but it IS the one I needed
Also maybe he vampire. We see.
@@DistractedGlobeGuywe'll see about that.
We'll see about that.
This movie and the Disaster Artist book are like the two perfect companion pieces for understanding one weird eccentric guy
I'm not entirely sure we will ever actually understand Tommy Wiseau.
No other failed melodrama ? BEN AND ARTHUR?!?!?
I think they probably meant like, higher than home movie quality. I don't know if ben and Arthur got a real release, the room did, hilariously.
Idk when this commentary was recorded, but it may have been before they'd seen Ben and Arthur
They're talking about *failed* melodrama, Ben and Arthur is a triumph of the genre.
@@RPGManoWar 2017
Ben and Arthur is a failed movie mostly due to its low budget, if you gave Sam Mraovich the same budget as Tommy Wiseau, he would've made a better movie, he doesn't have the ego of Wiseau for one
The room is the main character's private hell and they have to re-live it everytime it's watched
Tommy looks like he’s 45 and 109 all at the same time.
This movie makes 100 times more sense if you understand that Denny is..."special."
It actually makes the ending a bit tragic, a special needs kid crying over his dead friend, who was basically an older brother to him
This movie makes 100 times more sense if you understand that Tommy is "special".
This movie makes 100 times more sense if you yourself are special.
It makes 100 times more sense if you understand your mom is special.
Isn't that a given? What I heard is that he's a cat.
"He's going to the left and there's NOTHING THERE!"
🤣🤣🤣 God I love Rich.
There is a local art theatre that screens The Room every week and has for years. They constantly send out emails pining for donations because they are having trouble making ends meet. They were insulted when I sent a dollar and suggested screening anything but The Room. Maybe one day they will put two and two together.
Leave your STUPID comments in your pocket!
@@IDHLEB seethe harder
Based
Update: They stopped screening The Room.
Ha ha! What a story!
I like that this editing of the commentary suggests that Jay doesn't finish his point about the fonts lol
I think the two strangers who show up to mess around in the house was actually suppose to be Lisa and Mark but something happened and maybe it was the actor playing Mark didn't want to come in to shoot the scene. Instead of rewrites or dropping the scene Tommy used two random actors instead.
I'm pretty sure Tommy was always the protagonist.
@@Astorath_the_Grim yeah I know, nowhere in my comment do I make a claim otherwise. This scene and the comment has nothing to do with Tommy's roll. It's about why two strangers randomly show up in Tommy's house and fool around. It makes no sense but if it was a production issue then it starts to make more sense. If I remember correctly something is said in the movie about the affair that hints at this scene being Mark and Lisa instead which lead me to believe it was a problem behind the scenes. I would have to watch the movie again to refresh my memory.
Nah according to the book it was always meant to be those two characters. Tommy doesn't really understand that you shouldn't add characters that don't have anything to do with the rest of the film.
@@SeruraRenge11 See, Kevin up there made the mistake of assuming there is some reasonable explanation for stuff other than the pure randomness of Tommy Wiseau.
These 3 are so funny together
17:12 “I’VE SEEN THIS RAW STRENGTH ONLY ONCE BEFORE.”
10:55 That tape recorder had futuristic dashcam technology where it records continually and automatically records over the oldest material (if you encounter any adulterous conversations you want to save, just click the "OK" button to preserve the preceding few minutes)
That's been a feature of blackbox CVR units since 1954.
Tommy looks like you put a Classic He-Man figure in the microwave for 30 seconds.
people probably know this, but the guy at 13:37 is supposed to be Peter, the bespectacled psychologist friend from earlier in the film. the actor supposedly had another acting contract scheduled for later in the year and they had not filmed the last few scenes of The Room by that time, so he left and they had to have some random actor take his place.
You’re my hero, this is probably my favorite commentary track of theirs
I remember playing the game in newgrounds before watching the movie and I was so confused, then I watched it. Im still confused
It was fantastic. The animation of Tommy opening his eyes every morning - priceless.
@@The1RealDarek I'm still haunted by that sound effect.
@@cuttingbored4195 understandable :D
7:46 "he is older then her" killed me
the way the room is shot, it reminds me of like 90's TV movies.
Tommy might've wanted to pitch his "project" as a Pilot for a TV drama.
@@MrJamaigar that is very likely.
Honestly, it should've been called "The Roof."
A lot of the room actually looks and sounds competently made. Tommy spent six million and did have a crew with some experience. I believe they had to hire a second DP or maybe it was an entire crew because the original quit. I'm not sure the crew can really be blamed for the most amateurish stuff when Wisseau was directing.
Three DPs if I remember correctly. And like you said, two crews. Towards the end they were so tired they stopped caring about anything. Just make Tommy say his line in a coherent way and done, next scene. :)
10:45 there is a switch that can be used with old tape recorders and phone lines that will not record until the phone line is in use and stop when the phone is hung up.
The whole movie is vindicated
This is clearly the greatest movie ever made in cinema history
"Where are you from?"
"The Upper Vest Side."
Tommy: *pops out of coffin in a Transylvanian castle* Bluh, hi, Mark!
I love how the gun that Tommy shoots himself with says "PowerLine Airstrike" on the slide, just so the audience knows it was an airsoft gun.
Tommy could have lost an eye, that's how dedicated he is to his craft
My theory is wiseau did steroids but didnt workout for his sex scenes, thats his body's only explanation
Stop hanging out in the same parts of the internet as me
@@pontius428 algorithm compartmentalizes us all
I remember you from twitter lol.
@@BIacklce The center of it all, the one that keeps the algorithm together? A fat greek from Baltimore
@@pontius428 spiraling inward toward stavs gravitational pull
Blows my mind they saw this in the theater.
why? This is the exact kind of thing RLM would go see in theaters.
Many theaters play this movie
One funny thing that no one ever points out is that Johnny blows his brains out right after his *own birthday party!*
I laughed louder after reading that then I probably should of!
It's my party and I'll die if I want to
"No Johnny...you're supposed to blow out the CANDLES!"
7:15 If you look you can clearly see that the back of the stairwell shed-thing on the roof is either open or closed at the back, when viewed from the back or front respectively, so they must've made one with a closed back where people are seen entering the roof, and a separate open-backed one just to show the backs of people walking up to the roof, in order to sell that it's an actual stairwell people are walking up, and not just an obvious cubicle they're just popping out of. This would have to be in a different location and thus partly explain why the roof scenes were so expensive; and that form of both clever and incongruous is just so Wiseau-ian. ;)
ok so a long time ago when new grounds was the big thing (so around 2003-2005) i remember seeing a game of the room and i played it not knowing wtf the room was and my god i was lost lmao. i was laughing at how bad it was cuz they used sound clips from the movie lol. after that i looked up that fuckin movie and watched it. the game was like an rpg game. you played through the whole movie as tommy and you had to go get coffee with mark as a quest and go to your job at the bank as another quest. i miss new grounds
Newgrounds is still around, haven't you heard of Friday Night Funkin?
*Newgrounds
We can never go back 😥
That game was legitimately fun and hilarious. I beat it at least 3 or 4 times. Only real ones know about that special alternate ending that actually explains the movie which is only unlocked by collecting all of the hidden spoons.
@@HughMansonMD is that the game mentioned in the disaster artist book where Greg was a cop?
An absolute masterpiece.
There's so many superlatives that I just haven't got time to list them.
I did have a tape recorder that could hook to a phone line and it only recorded when it had a phone signal, would stay paused otherwise.
"His suit is comically oversized. It was tailored for a Gorilla." Rich killing it.
I dont know if my life would be the same if I hadn't seen the room in like 2009. Changed my life's trajectory. What a story, Mark.
The reason Tommy knows George Lucas is because he is a real life star wars muppet.
Why are they so hysterical
You must be new here
Don't they understand life?
@@jpittmon1363 it’s pure instance
I think Tommy is related to some rich monarchy old family from europe and he hid his background because he wanted to be an actor but his family thought it was beneath him. that is where he gets all his money.
I don't buy that the Room was originally intended as a black comedy/joke film, as Tommy Wiseau's initial reaction when it became a Manos and the Hands of Fate-like cult film was incredibly hostile and litigious.
He threatened to sue Nostalgia Critic as well as others, and had tons of youtube videos on the Room DMCA'd. You don't react like that when you were intending to say "got you!" all along... In fact, Tommy was one of the first shitheads to file false DMCA claims against youtubers en-masse. He did it before Digital Homicide and Day One Garry's Incident, before it was even a thing people knew about. Real trailblazer...
He was in court against documentarians and has been ordered to pay $ 750.000,-.
He's a horrible person
"Nobody knew what happened to the Samurai Cop"
There were only two places he could be in:
-Back in Japan, for further Samurai training.
-Or back on the streets in San Diego, where he was still needed.
To be honest, Sandy REALLY should have just let him drive off the roof in his vampire car.
The gun at the end is supposed to be the same gun our heroes seized from Chris R. It's implied (I guess) that they took Chris to the very local police station, but kept the gun for themselves future use.
I do feel the need to point out that Tommy Wiseau has said that the gun IS Chris R.'s gun. That scene was in the movie to establish that they characters had a gun which they took from Chris R.
Nah
11:10 I have seen this twice in theaters and I've never processed this story. This is always the point of the film where I break and completely lose it in laughter and on one occasion I struggled not to spit out the beer I had just chugged.
I still haven’t come to terms with this movie. I’m shaking
The titular Room in "The Room" is actually the room with the greenscreen in it where literally everything was shot
I had so many questions the first time I watched it. I'll re-watch it every few years , thinking I'll find some answers to previous questions, but instead I'm left with even more questions. I'll never learn my lesson.
eee eee eee dr,dszzzzdz
15:52 He closed the door twice.
Andy Kaufman couldn't have directed The Room because he died in 1998, the funeral scene in Man On The Moon was his actual funeral.
He died in '84.
@@FredCracklin Do you hate conspiracy theories so much that you try to debunk them even when they are jokes?
@@pentelegomenon1175
He died of AAAAAAIDS....
@@pentelegomenon1175
Hilarious
This guy is proof that we do have aliens here on planet earth...
Can't wait to see Bob Odenkirk's take on this.
Omg! I never noticed the stairs off the roof. He's ascending into the void! WTF. Its almost haunted image material it's so offputting to now have noticed after several viewings.
Wait which part?
@@BrandonCMaximum 8:15
"Correction: That's 'descending'." - Commander Data
@@ShoRyuBarbie Yes, correct. Good catch. 👍
I cant believe its been 20 years
This played in a repertory theater back in grad school and Tommy was there. My buddy asked him what shampoo he uses and Tommy said "Hahahaha! Fuck you!" And that was the end of that.
2:41 nah, the ultimate film school project would be taking the framework established by The Room, and trying to rework it into a legitimately good film.
A sequel, perhaps?
That'd be the hardest 90-100% grade any film student ever slaved over.
@@ElvenRaptorthey can always reach out to Mr. Wiseau. For better or worse, I think help could be secured free of charge; of course, Tommy will have _at least two_ speaking roles.
I fixed the cassette plot hole. They used to make automatic tape recorders. Once the recorder picks up a loud enough signal it will start recording to tape.
I love that they suddenly start hypothesizing that he had a horrible accident and is on vicodin, and also "he had that fucked up slur"
They're not speculating, that's eyewitness reporting from Greg Sestero (Mark). He spent a couple years working with Tommy on development of the film, where he witnessed Wiseau's heavy use of prescription painkillers, which he explained as a necessity that resulted from a serious car crash some time earlier.
Tommy succeeded in the long run with making this viral status
Can we have a class action lawsuit for all the people named Mark, that are tortured by the line "oh hi Mark"
I don’t think it’s happened to me. Yet.
The A-a-rons of the world may have a similar case against Key & Peele. And I knew a guy named Blue who's life was ruined by Old School
Haha, what a story Mark!@@markiangooley
I've never actually seen The Room but I basically know everything about it from internet osmosis.
and I have to say, that scene with the football is far more bizarre and insane than anything I could have imagined.
"I've never seen The Room but I basically know everything..."
You don't.
oh my god, watch it. i thought i had the jist from videos but holy shit i had no idea lol
Having not seen it I can tell you that you do not know basically everything about it buddy, trust me. Just go watch it finally and you won’t have to sound dumb anymore.
The worst part is even when you say "the scene with the football" that could be like...5 different scenes lol that's how insane of a movie The Room is