My father's tombstone was inspired by the opening credits of this movie. He liked how all the actors names were on tombstones and the last said "And Bill Murray". He insisted he wanted an "and" added to his tombstone when he died. My father's tombstone now reads: "And David Otteni".
he said after that jim carrey was in the original line up to play wood as he was box office gold. burton said afterwards no regrets but carrey would heve been good and could have smashed the box office but it wouldnt have been his movie,
26:07 "Making a B-Movie in real life is probably a terrible miserable nightmare." Mike speaking as if he doesn't have firsthand experience in making no-budget B-movies...
Yeah what's up with that? I saw glimpses of their own movies and for guys who obviously know what makes a good movie you would think they would...make a good movie.
Apologies, but let's clear up what the word "hack" means: In this context, it comes from the old British word for a cab, as in "hackney cab" or possibly just a rented horse, something that will JUST get you where you want to go. It isn't going to be fancy. It won't be made of polished mohagany and rich Corinthian leather ("Corinth is known for it's leather!") It won't be a majestic prancing Arabian. But it'll PROBABLY get you where you want to go. If it can't...then it can't be a hack, because who would hire it? If a self-styled writer, painter, photographer, or film maker can't really do those things, nobody will hire them...so at most they can be hobbyists, not hacks. Think of Stephen King, or Clive Barker. Neither is "great," but for some, they give us a pretty good ride. Had to add, if one of these takes you somewhere unexpected, and you don't get mad...and you even "grow," that's where they reach for greatness.
Reese Torwad no that's not what a hack is. No matter where the word comes from, the word hack means whatever we all agreed that it means. So a hack filmmaker is a hack filmmaker.
Sounds like the Hammer Studio ethos. I recall an interview where someone said a Hammer exec went to the US with a poster and came back with a contract to make the movie.
@@BrianRPaterson To add to that, the posters were often done in batches, they would go to distributors and film festivals with folders full of posters to films not yet made and whatever poster got the most attention and sales would be the one they ended up filming. Compare that to now where it feels like the executives only at the end of post production go "oh yeah we need a poster? Heck. Oh well. We'll get the intern to do it during his lunchbreak."
I hate when people called Uwe Boll the new Ed Wood. Ed Wood had no talent but he had a love for film and being a filmmaker. Uwe Boll uses film as a con to make money.
Jason Trickle I would love to see RLM take an episode of something, or even a small part of an episode, to talk about that estranged POS. Rampage is one of the most aimless and visually unappealing movies I think I've ever seen.
You can tell there is some kind of con going on when you look at his IMDB page and see that he directed 3 movies in 2013 and 2 movies in 2014 and has like 3 or 4 producer credits each year.
Uwe Boll has a doctorate in literature. He knows how to tell a good story but chooses not to because he is playing a bizarre shell game with tax breaks. I think he also knows that making a mediocre but faithful video game movie would get less attention than making bad movies on purpose.
Fun fact, at 9:20, that's my Uncle, Brent Hinkley, playing Conrad Brooks, the actor who gets yelled at by Bela Lugosi. Never expected something a family member was involved in to be talked about by these two hack frauds. So this was kind of a nice surprise.
Your uncle is also the entomologist that hits on Jodie Foster in Silence of the Lambs and the burger joint manager in Falling Down. Let your uncle know he's got fans
@Jack Gattanella: Some honorable mentions : “Let’s shoot this focker!” “I have five days to complete this picture. Don’t get goofy on me.” “Nobody will ever notice that. Filmmaking is not about the tiny details. It’s about the big picture!” “I see the usual gang of misfits and dope addicts are here.”
My sister and I were shouting at each other in Bela Lugosi voices for years. Oh yeah, and the Baptism Scene DID, indeed, occur. See if you track down the book Nightmare of Ecstasy. And the cinematographer really was colour blind; he was a veteran of the silent days.
Tim Burton is one of those creators that really needs a right-hand man to keep him grounded. His early movies were creative and entertaining, but once he was a really big name in Hollywood and he had big money behind his projects with unlimited control of his films, we started getting things like... Alice in Wonderland.
Very timely re:view, guys. Conrad Brooks died 2 days ago, and was the last surviving Ed Wood cast member. He was a friend, and he would have appreciated your love for the Ed Wood film. It's a masterpiece in my opinion. Speaking of hard-hitting docs about Ed Wood, keep an eye out for UNSPEAKABLE HORRORS: THE PLAN 9 CONSPIRACY!
TheVideoInvader Yes indeed. Worked with him in 2 of my movies. It wasn't always easy, but he was always a fun dude to have around. Good guy, sad end. 😕
Conrad was a family friend as well, and we use to always get breakfast every month in the late 90s. I was in elementary school at the time, but I remember he gave us a copy of Little Lost Sea Serpent. Hope you and your family are well, and much love!
@@bloodredskiesx Hi there! I remember Little Lost Sea Serpent. He was a great guy. I'm glad he is remembered by friends, it keeps him alive. My best to you and yours!
What the film skipped over was, Ed Wood was highly patriotic. He enlisted in the Marines after Pearl Harbor. He was awarded the Silver Star, a Sharpshooter's Medal and two purple hearts. The Silver Start is the United States Armed Forces' third-highest personal decoration for valor in combat. Very few soldiers receive it. Assigned to the 2nd Defense Battalions, he reached the rank of corporal before he was discharged. He was involved in the Battle of Tarawa, among others, and during the entire war, he lost his two front teeth to a Japanese soldier's rifle butt and was shot several times in the leg by a Japanese machine gunner. He was unable to continue in a combat roll because of his leg wounds and was assigned to office work where he received a typing course. This enabled him to become a jet lightning typist which if anything enabled to later turn out scripts as needed. Wood was an exemplary combat soldier. He was married to Kathy Wood from 1956 to 1978 (his death).
James Pontolillo wrote an entire book about Ed Wood's four years in the Marines, and I can confirm that your second and last sentences are, in fact, correct.
Johnny Depp's portrayal of Ed Wood weirdly reminds me of Flik, the lead character from the Pixar film A Bug's Life. The almost endlessly optimistic creator who leads a bunch of misfits into making something weirdly great.
Burton's obsession with kitsch used to be quirky and interesting, but I think it became a creative straitjacket. He now makes "Tim Burton-style movies" that really are like bad pastiches of his earlier, better stuff, Dark Shadows probably being the nadir of that.
Well, Sweeney Todd is gimme since it's base on an already excellent stage play (really more of a light opera considering the complexity of the score). And while it's awesome that Burton made it to bring that play and its music to a wider audience, from a theater perspective his version is a travesty based on the casting of Depp in the role alone. Todd is supposed to be a much deeper bass singing role. Someone like Kelsey Grammar would have been a far better fit (in fact I think he did the part on stage at least once in his career). If you go listen to the original Broadway cast recording, you'll find the actor who first handled Todd had such a voice, and the songs are molded around the notes he hits. Depp can't hit them at all, and thus you're getting some interesting takes on the tunes for a higher pitch, but I don't think they really resonate quite as well as hearing the demonic low notes that Todd is supposed to reach, musically.
Just watched Ed Wood for the first time a couple days ago. I never really cared much for Sarah Jessica Parker, before. Hearing her say "Do I really have a face like a horse?" was not only funny, it made me actually respect her as an actress. Great film. The opening with Jeffrey Jones as Criswell should be ample warning to not take Ed Wood too seriously as a biopic.
@notamodelcitizen: Sounds as if Tor says either “moopies” or “moofies”. The latter would make sense, given the V to F consonant shift in northern Germanic languages
"Ed Wood" was the kind of movie that people describe as a "love letter;" to classic Hollywood, to monster movies, to the spirit of low-budget filmmakers, to the diehard movie fans, to the art of film itself and why it matters. It succeeds because the sincerity of the people who made this movie seems to match the idealistic enthusiasm of Ed Wood himself. This movie always feels like a labor of love, and it is presented in a way that invites the audience to feel that love.
“Johnny depp is a scumbag” Awwwww how times have changed. Glad those tapes were released where Amber clearly says, “yes I started a physical fight and you ran away”
Thanks for making this video, guys. I've been lobbying for Mike and Jay to discuss their mutual love of "Ed Wood" since they mentioned it in a "Half in the Bag" episode many moons ago. Sometimes dreams do come true :-)
+PersonalityWorship I believe it was the episode where they reviewed "Dark Shadows." It's been a long time, though, so I'm not 100% positive. I'd have to watch it again to be sure.
I was managing cinema when Ed Wood came out. Loved the flick. The film stock was different than anything I had seen previously. It was thicker and it had a laminate coating on it that kind of sloughed off, and you had to clean the film path after every show.
Bunny, "I can't believe you got all of your friends baptized so you could make a monster movie." Ed, "It isn't a monster movie! It's a science fiction thriller!"
I'm honestly not a big fan of Tim Burton as a director and filmmaker, but Ed Wood is by far one of his best films. You could tell put a tremendous amount of care and respect into making it that he hasn't done since.
I think "Mars Attacks" was the last Tim Burton movie that RLM reviewed, and I think Jay claimed in this video that it was probably Tim Burton's last good movie. I just feel like either a lot of people forgot about "Big Fish" or didn't even see it. It was a really heartfelt movie and actually had a similar tone to Ed Wood. I would love for the RLM guys to do a re:View of that movie sometime. It is one of my favorite Tim Burton films.
@@hello11197 no. They are picking Depp because we’ve seen and heard literal proof that Amber Heard was wildly emotionally and physically abusive and has been characterized in media as the sole victim who still has a ton of endorsement deals and roles despite many being taken away from Depp. We have photos showing physical abuse at the hands of Heard towards Depp. We have time frames of events that she swore on that don’t add up at all. We have second hand accounts of her mistreatment. We have skin specialists pointing out that she has passed off botex injections as facial bruises. She showed up to court dates that didn’t require her to be there and she then gave a speech about how it was so difficult to go through lol. But keep fighting the good fight against Depp in this situation. 👍 Nobody is saying Depp is an Angel - he’s certainly an emotional alcoholic, but Heard is the clear issue but things haven’t been characterized that way and it’s frustrating to a lot of people.
Jam Bal A while ago on a Pre-Rec livestream, Jay floated the idea of doing a "melt movie" Best of the Worst, with things like The Blob, but I think they decided the potential candidates were too good for BotW.
regardless of one's opinion about the films he's portrayed him in, I think Jack Sparrow is absolutely Johnny Depp's best performance. The character transcends the films. That performance is so good people think about the character in his own context and the films are simply vehicles that house him.
@@jandcstopmotion7774 I'd say the first 3 are all worthwhile movies. They're not good, but they're a lot of fun. Their biggest problem is that they take themselves too seriously. The first one is like 2 hours and 20 mins and it's the shortest one... a movie based on a fucking theme park...
@@aj.s... No, the problem was that they made Jack a clown after the first one. The writers forgot that Jack was just a very smart guy pretending to be an idiot to make others underestimate him, so they wrote him to be an actual idiot with tons of luck. The first movie was the most serious one, and it was the best by far.
Re:View is probably my favorite thing RLM does apart from BofW. It's awesome to see movies that don't get talked about enough getting their chance to shine and it's fun to hear them talked about so in depth.
Mars Attacks deserves repeat viewings. I didn't much care for it the first time because I thought it was dumb and now I know that's its intention. It's a dumb big-budget B-movie and it's great.
This was such an amazing movie. I watched it for the first time roughly 10 years ago, and every now and again I watch it again. It just has such a sense of charm to it. So memorable.
I've not seen most of Tim Burton's filmography, but I do think that his last good film was definitely "Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street" (2007). Might even be Johnny Depp's best performance. He even got nominated for "Best leading actor" in the oscars that year but lost out to Daniel Day Lewis for "There Will Be Blood" which is quite unlucky for him to be up against a nominee like that.
IMO Tim Burton's last great movie was Corpse Bride. Then "Big Eyes" came out and I was like "Whoa! Tim still has it!" Anyone who hasn't seen "Big Eyes" and is a fan of Tim Burton, watch it! It is really good and Based On A True Story.
I just so happen to have been an extra in Bill Murray's "Larger Than Life" elephant film and even though it clearly had a budget, many of the things I saw occurring in Ed Wood, slapping different scenes together seemingly at the last minute, cutting and wrapping after one take happen on certain "big" films as well. Nonetheless I absolutely agree Ed Wood is a classic!
Y’all are criminally underrated. Fucking absolute best RUclips channel by far. Y’all entertained me through some of my worst shit and helped me stay in a positive and happy mindset. Best wishes! love you mike, jay, rich, and the gang.
You two MUST see "Living in Oblivion". It's the ultimate film about trying to make a film. Steve Buscemi, Catherine Keener, Dermot Mulroney, and James LeGros (featuring Peter Dinklage in his star-making turn at Tito, the World's Angriest Dwarf). Brilliant.
I was aware of Ed Wood and Plan 9 From Outer Space two years before this movie was made, because of the 1992 computer game based on the Plan 9 From Outer Space movie :) I have not yet played the game, but it was mentioned a lot in computer game magazines I read in 1992 :)
They had a double feature when Ed Wood was released combining it with a screening of Plan Nine. Half the theater was packed with people in heavy mascara, dressed in black the other half looked like they were on probation. Once Ed Wood was over the people in mascara stormed out in case they caught a glimpse of a movie not made by Tim Burton ... Weird times !
This is great. Really good discussion and a perfect compliment to your Disaster Artist review. The last Tim Burton movie I really enjoyed was Big Fish. Burton movies seem to work best with a sort of realism within them to work up against. I wish he would do more of these kinds of films.
Shoutout to The Creeping Terror, which was featured in this video, and which my father watched as a child in theaters and never forgot it for how awful it was. Love that movie.
I'm not sure how you could re:view Antichrist? What is there to say other than it's uncomfortable watching it!? I've seen it once and am trying to avoid seeing it again! 😉
This movie was made very deliberately in Hollywood formula style, which is why it was so perfect to have the scene where Ed meets Orson Welles in that bar. We know it never happened, but it belongs in the movie because it's just so Hollywood. The movie failed because mainstream audiences didn't want to pay $7 (or whatever it was back then) to see a black-and-white movie at the theater, but it wouldn't have been as good if they had done it in color. Not even a tenth as good.
I find this movie a near masterpiece everything is four stars but the excellent Bela Lugosi speech near the end almost elevates it to five stars his speech is one of the ten best ever put to film it gave me chills watching it the first time.
Such a great movie. I found this gem while living in Korea in 1998. I lived on K2 Airbase and I am certain I was the ONLY person renting this one. I watched it regularly. Such great casting! Johnny Depp and Bill Murray are hilariously funny but Martin Landau as Bela Lugosi was just amazing!
The Man who Knew Too Little is no cinematic masterpiece but I have always found it funny and enjoyed it. Also one of the few movies where I like and/or fell sorry for Peter Gallegher.
Back when Burton had real passion, vision AND talent! Peewee's Big Adventure / Beetlejuice / Edward Scissorhands / Ed Wood - All are GLORIOUSLY directed, with a real unique visual character that actually encoded the directors personal truth, rather than just egomaniacal ideosyncratic multi-million dollar CGI screen-doodles that don't add up to shit.
I'm interacting to support the channel. This was better than PewDiePie playing Minecraft, or Markiplier and JackSepticEye playing Fortnite while watching ASMR videos.
Wow, even the comments are in black and white! Such attention to detail!
Lol. Underrated comment
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At least someone noticed.
Somewhat related but it took me 11 minutes to realize the hack frauds Mika and Jay are in black and white too.
Not anymore 🏳️🌈
My father's tombstone was inspired by the opening credits of this movie. He liked how all the actors names were on tombstones and the last said "And Bill Murray". He insisted he wanted an "and" added to his tombstone when he died.
My father's tombstone now reads: "And David Otteni".
That's one of the best epitaphs I've ever heard of. Your father had a great idea.
Thats pretty great
Genius. That's what I call going in style.
Holy Shit imagine going out in that style, your father was a badass
good idea
Who's going to play Rich Evans when they make "Mike Stoklasa" 40 years from now?
They'll invent cloning just so that Rich Evans can play himself.
It's obiously going to be a CGI Rich Evans ala Rogue One's Grand Moff Tarkin
80-year-old Rich Evans (in the unlikely event he's still alive) should play himself. Just slap a wig on him and you're good to go.
Let's be honest Rich won't make it past 45
CGI Mark Hamill?
They should make Jay’s movie about John Waters and cast Rich Evans as Divine
This should literally, I mean literally happen
I am so sad, having heard this and imagining it, knowing it is not likely to happen
I would support a go fund me for this.
Oh My Gawd!!!. . . YES!
"What are some of your political beliefs?"
"AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDS!"
Best line in the movie:
"Do you reject Satan and all his vices?"
"Sure."
"Better than not getting the job?"
"Is there a script?"
"Fuck no! But there is a poster. It opens in 9 weeks in Tulsa..."
Goodbye penis!
"We don't have a permit...
...Run!"
Damn it’s cold
Ed Wood is Tim Burton's highest rated movie on Rotten Tomatoes. It's also the only movie he ever made that didn't turn a profit.
Im surprised Dark Shadows turned a profit, but I guess it did well overseas.
he said after that jim carrey was in the original line up to play wood as he was box office gold. burton said afterwards no regrets but carrey would heve been good and could have smashed the box office but it wouldnt have been his movie,
1994 was a great year with Ed Wood and Pulp Fiction. And yet Forrest Gump won best picture.
Actually Nightmare before Christmas is Tim Burton's highest rated movie.
@@zack19192 nightmare before Christmas isn't burton's film
26:07 "Making a B-Movie in real life is probably a terrible miserable nightmare."
Mike speaking as if he doesn't have firsthand experience in making no-budget B-movies...
Any movie involving these hacks gets downgraded to being a C movie
Motherdragon64 I believe he meant to say “was” as in the experience of the cast and crew making ed woods movie was a miserable nightmare
It's amazing how a film about a hack filmmaker could inspire 2 actual hack filmmakers
Yeah what's up with that? I saw glimpses of their own movies and for guys who obviously know what makes a good movie you would think they would...make a good movie.
If you think rlm kind of know what they’re doing.
Apologies, but let's clear up what the word "hack" means: In this context, it comes from the old British word for a cab, as in "hackney cab" or possibly just a rented horse, something that will JUST get you where you want to go.
It isn't going to be fancy. It won't be made of polished mohagany and rich Corinthian leather ("Corinth is known for it's leather!") It won't be a majestic prancing Arabian.
But it'll PROBABLY get you where you want to go. If it can't...then it can't be a hack, because who would hire it?
If a self-styled writer, painter, photographer, or film maker can't really do those things, nobody will hire them...so at most they can be hobbyists, not hacks.
Think of Stephen King, or Clive Barker. Neither is "great," but for some, they give us a pretty good ride. Had to add, if one of these takes you somewhere unexpected, and you don't get mad...and you even "grow," that's where they reach for greatness.
Reese Torwad no that's not what a hack is. No matter where the word comes from, the word hack means whatever we all agreed that it means. So a hack filmmaker is a hack filmmaker.
Hey kids! Can you say "circular arguement?" lol
But seriously, you can spew anything you want, it doesn't matter.
"Is there a script?" "Fuck, no! But there's a poster!"
Such an amazing line XD
It's so true though. Especially the old tax shelter 70s and early 80s shlock fest films.
Sounds like the Hammer Studio ethos.
I recall an interview where someone said a Hammer exec went to the US with a poster and came back with a contract to make the movie.
@@BrianRPaterson
To add to that, the posters were often done in batches, they would go to distributors and film festivals with folders full of posters to films not yet made and whatever poster got the most attention and sales would be the one they ended up filming.
Compare that to now where it feels like the executives only at the end of post production go "oh yeah we need a poster? Heck. Oh well. We'll get the intern to do it during his lunchbreak."
@@BrianRPaterson Cannon Films also did this A LOT.
I hate when people called Uwe Boll the new Ed Wood. Ed Wood had no talent but he had a love for film and being a filmmaker. Uwe Boll uses film as a con to make money.
Jason Trickle I would love to see RLM take an episode of something, or even a small part of an episode, to talk about that estranged POS. Rampage is one of the most aimless and visually unappealing movies I think I've ever seen.
You can tell there is some kind of con going on when you look at his IMDB page and see that he directed 3 movies in 2013 and 2 movies in 2014 and has like 3 or 4 producer credits each year.
The room guy is the new edition wood
Uwe Boll should be arrested for premeditated cultural fraud.
Uwe Boll has a doctorate in literature. He knows how to tell a good story but chooses not to because he is playing a bizarre shell game with tax breaks. I think he also knows that making a mediocre but faithful video game movie would get less attention than making bad movies on purpose.
This film is worth watching for Martin Landau’s performance alone, seriously.
His performance is fucking poignant.
This movie was more of a Bela Lugosi movie rather than an Ed Wood movie imo. Martin Landau just stole the movie for me
“We don’t have a permit.....RUN!
R.I.P. Martin Landau.
@@TheBasaltHorogium yes he did nail the role I miss Martin Landau.
Fun fact, at 9:20, that's my Uncle, Brent Hinkley, playing Conrad Brooks, the actor who gets yelled at by Bela Lugosi. Never expected something a family member was involved in to be talked about by these two hack frauds. So this was kind of a nice surprise.
Temparo then these interesting stories get buried by overused memes
For Seinfeld fans, he was the sidler with Tic Tacs for a cowbell
Emery Mulligan tell him FUCK YOU
His face is great
Your uncle is also the entomologist that hits on Jodie Foster in Silence of the Lambs and the burger joint manager in Falling Down. Let your uncle know he's got fans
The most quotable line:
"You know, in actuality, Lobo would have to struggle with that problem every day."
@Jack Gattanella: Some honorable mentions : “Let’s shoot this focker!”
“I have five days to complete this picture. Don’t get goofy on me.”
“Nobody will ever notice that. Filmmaking is not about the tiny details. It’s about the big picture!”
“I see the usual gang of misfits and dope addicts are here.”
Somebody get a kickstarter to allow Jay to direct a John Waters movie
My sister and I were shouting at each other in Bela Lugosi voices for years. Oh yeah, and the Baptism Scene DID, indeed, occur. See if you track down the book Nightmare of Ecstasy. And the cinematographer really was colour blind; he was a veteran of the silent days.
Tim Burton is one of those creators that really needs a right-hand man to keep him grounded. His early movies were creative and entertaining, but once he was a really big name in Hollywood and he had big money behind his projects with unlimited control of his films, we started getting things like... Alice in Wonderland.
pretty much!
That movie about the Frankenstein Dog was pretty fun
Basically he's like an arthouse George Lucas lol.
What do you expect from the guitarist for oingo boingo?
Honestly he should do a low/mid budget movie with Blumhouse
Very timely re:view, guys. Conrad Brooks died 2 days ago, and was the last surviving Ed Wood cast member. He was a friend, and he would have appreciated your love for the Ed Wood film. It's a masterpiece in my opinion. Speaking of hard-hitting docs about Ed Wood, keep an eye out for UNSPEAKABLE HORRORS: THE PLAN 9 CONSPIRACY!
You knew Conrad?
TheVideoInvader Yes indeed. Worked with him in 2 of my movies. It wasn't always easy, but he was always a fun dude to have around. Good guy, sad end. 😕
@@FrancoisDressler I think you meant "the last surviving Plan 9 from outer space cast member"?
Conrad was a family friend as well, and we use to always get breakfast every month in the late 90s. I was in elementary school at the time, but I remember he gave us a copy of Little Lost Sea Serpent. Hope you and your family are well, and much love!
@@bloodredskiesx Hi there! I remember Little Lost Sea Serpent. He was a great guy. I'm glad he is remembered by friends, it keeps him alive. My best to you and yours!
What the film skipped over was, Ed Wood was highly patriotic. He enlisted in the Marines after Pearl Harbor.
He was awarded the Silver Star, a Sharpshooter's Medal and two purple hearts.
The Silver Start is the United States Armed Forces' third-highest personal decoration for valor in combat. Very few soldiers receive it.
Assigned to the 2nd Defense Battalions, he reached the rank of corporal before he was discharged. He was involved in the Battle of Tarawa, among others, and during the entire war,
he lost his two front teeth to a Japanese soldier's rifle butt and was shot several times in the leg by a Japanese machine gunner.
He was unable to continue in a combat roll because of his leg wounds and was assigned to office work where he received a typing course.
This enabled him to become a jet lightning typist which if anything enabled to later turn out scripts as needed.
Wood was an exemplary combat soldier.
He was married to Kathy Wood from 1956 to 1978 (his death).
I would love to see THAT movie!
And all of that wearing panties, what a legend.
God bless him! That's all so awesome!
Whatever liberties the movie took with the details of his life, it definitely showed how big his heart was. What a legend.
James Pontolillo wrote an entire book about Ed Wood's four years in the Marines, and I can confirm that your second and last sentences are, in fact, correct.
I miss 80s and 90s Burton
I miss 80s and 90s Johnny Depp.
I miss 70s Ed Wood porn
I thought _Big Fish_ was pretty good.
Imo the last good Burton was Big Fish
WHAT?! He's 59
Please do a commentary track for Ed Wood guys...would love to hear your commentary for a movie you love as much as this one.
BEST IDEA EVER!!! Please, make a commentary track for Ed Wood!
It is nice when that rare movie review comes along that puts the light back in Mike's cold, lifeless eyes.
Please 😌
I would like this also!
Johnny Depp's portrayal of Ed Wood weirdly reminds me of Flik, the lead character from the Pixar film A Bug's Life. The almost endlessly optimistic creator who leads a bunch of misfits into making something weirdly great.
Burton's obsession with kitsch used to be quirky and interesting, but I think it became a creative straitjacket. He now makes "Tim Burton-style movies" that really are like bad pastiches of his earlier, better stuff, Dark Shadows probably being the nadir of that.
Rob K Sweeney Todd is fantastic, and Frankenweenie is pretty good
Well, Sweeney Todd is gimme since it's base on an already excellent stage play (really more of a light opera considering the complexity of the score). And while it's awesome that Burton made it to bring that play and its music to a wider audience, from a theater perspective his version is a travesty based on the casting of Depp in the role alone. Todd is supposed to be a much deeper bass singing role. Someone like Kelsey Grammar would have been a far better fit (in fact I think he did the part on stage at least once in his career).
If you go listen to the original Broadway cast recording, you'll find the actor who first handled Todd had such a voice, and the songs are molded around the notes he hits. Depp can't hit them at all, and thus you're getting some interesting takes on the tunes for a higher pitch, but I don't think they really resonate quite as well as hearing the demonic low notes that Todd is supposed to reach, musically.
Obligatory: ruclips.net/video/bFzLRP8e4vE/видео.html
Yea fuck him and fuck Johnny Deep too.
@Stephen Murphy why?
Did you guys notice the subtle aesthetic choice to make the video black and white?
They also did it with Eraserhead
Very Cool.
I’m colorblind so I didn’t notice.
What are you, some kind of genius?
Now that you mention it
Just watched Ed Wood for the first time a couple days ago. I never really cared much for Sarah Jessica Parker, before. Hearing her say "Do I really have a face like a horse?" was not only funny, it made me actually respect her as an actress.
Great film. The opening with Jeffrey Jones as Criswell should be ample warning to not take Ed Wood too seriously as a biopic.
Oh my god, a Re:View of a movie I’ve actually seen? I clapped because I recognized it!
pezhead53 DID YOU CLAP AT ANY OF THE REVIEWS FOR MOVIES YOU HAVENT SEEN?!
Dan Bharry YES!! I applauded them for being different, but not too different!
"The blind optimism of Ronald Reagan, the enthusiasm of the Tin Man, and Casey Kasem." - Johnny Depp describing his performance in "Ed Wood".
Did 'Tor Johnson' say "moopies" at 23:05? Is he Rich's grandfather?
@notamodelcitizen: Sounds as if Tor says either “moopies” or “moofies”. The latter would make sense, given the V to F consonant shift in northern Germanic languages
This is arguably Tim Burton’s best film
I'd say Batman, but sure.
Big Fish is my personal favorite movie of all time
Absolutely.
It's certainly up there. I still have a soft spot for Batman Returns, but this is obviously a much more personal piece. More consistent.
Derek D Not even Rick Baker at the peak of of sfx make-up powers could save it from early Marky Mark's wooden delivery and bullshit "twist" ending.
Turns out Johnny Depp isn't a scumbag, who knew
turns out Amber Heard is a freakin psycho. Who knew?
I mean, I had a feeling, but I can't say I knew for sure.
I knew but no one would listen. Everyone just loves to pile on. Jackals
@Sam Armstrong he didn't even touch her. Kept his cool the entire time and almost lost everything for it
Turn out, Tim Burton has such great movies after Ed Wood: Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street, Big Fish...who didn't know?
I bet Jay learned everything he knows about Wood down at the manhole.
"Straight from the horses mouth."
Jay's deadpan delivery of such quality humor is amazing.
RIP Martin Landau
Peyman RIP Bela Lugosi
RIP George Steele
RIP Charles Manson
Could you re:View 'Clue' for me, some day?
It's my favorite film..
"By now she was dead."
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But is communism really just a red herring?
red herring [n] something, especially a clue, that is or is intended to be misleading or distracting
Zap Actionsdower - Draws back to the time of McCarthyism. And also what the above comment said.
Even in B&W you can smell the Bourbon on Mike.
B&W? I thought it was J&B.
(That's my dad joke of the day. I'ma go shoot myself now wokka wokka)
"Ed Wood" was the kind of movie that people describe as a "love letter;" to classic Hollywood, to monster movies, to the spirit of low-budget filmmakers, to the diehard movie fans, to the art of film itself and why it matters. It succeeds because the sincerity of the people who made this movie seems to match the idealistic enthusiasm of Ed Wood himself. This movie always feels like a labor of love, and it is presented in a way that invites the audience to feel that love.
I would love for Dr. Strangelove to be on this
Brutish Orc strange thing is they make such bloody good cameras...
Jim Grafton I don't avoid women Mandrake but I do deny them my essence
“Johnny depp is a scumbag”
Awwwww how times have changed. Glad those tapes were released where Amber clearly says, “yes I started a physical fight and you ran away”
@@Goldenfightinglink where did they retract?
@@14AspenDrive they have made fun of amber heard numerous times since those tapes came out
Doesn't matter, a MeToo accusation is all it takes to ruin your career no matter how much proof someone has of their innocence
Derp and Terd are both horrible people.
Johnny Depp belongs in a straightjacket. He's full of seething rage and contempt and didn't mind taking it out on AH.
Thanks for making this video, guys. I've been lobbying for Mike and Jay to discuss their mutual love of "Ed Wood" since they mentioned it in a "Half in the Bag" episode many moons ago. Sometimes dreams do come true :-)
Which HitB?
+excsesspool Thanks! :-) I'm sure I wasn't the only one to suggest it, but it does feel nice to see them tackle something I wanted for so long.
+PersonalityWorship I believe it was the episode where they reviewed "Dark Shadows." It's been a long time, though, so I'm not 100% positive. I'd have to watch it again to be sure.
"Is there a script?" "Fuck, no! But there's a poster!"
And that's how Michael Bay movies are made.
I got wood when i saw this notification
That works on so many levels.
SpiritSoulRecords go take a selfie.
+1
Ed wood that is
Knowing this is one of Mike's favorite movies explains so much about his personality.
I was managing cinema when Ed Wood came out. Loved the flick. The film stock was different than anything I had seen previously. It was thicker and it had a laminate coating on it that kind of sloughed off, and you had to clean the film path after every show.
The Johnny Depp comments have not aged well. Well, they did add "alleged". :)
"Johnny Depp is a scumbag"
I'll take comments that (thankfully) didn't age well for 500, Alex
Speaking of comments aging poorly...
...RIP, Alex...
@@jackpijjin4088 Oof
Bunny, "I can't believe you got all of your friends baptized so you could make a monster movie."
Ed, "It isn't a monster movie! It's a science fiction thriller!"
I'm honestly not a big fan of Tim Burton as a director and filmmaker, but Ed Wood is by far one of his best films. You could tell put a tremendous amount of care and respect into making it that he hasn't done since.
You guys can only avoid Tommy Wiseau for so long.
Tommy Wiseau is a dead meme. Like yo mamma jokes, except somehow more embarrassing.
I really like "Sleepy Hollow". Even though it gets a little Hollywood at the end it's atmosphere makes it great halloween movie.
I think "Mars Attacks" was the last Tim Burton movie that RLM reviewed, and I think Jay claimed in this video that it was probably Tim Burton's last good movie. I just feel like either a lot of people forgot about "Big Fish" or didn't even see it. It was a really heartfelt movie and actually had a similar tone to Ed Wood. I would love for the RLM guys to do a re:View of that movie sometime. It is one of my favorite Tim Burton films.
Haven't seen Big Fish in a while, but I felt like that had a lot of heart.
I would argue that Sweeney Todd was a solid Tim Burton film, but the source material really carries it
And Johnny Depp isnt quirky. In fact, its his most darkest role...maybe.
Watching after Johnny Depp has been completely vindicated.
@@hello11197 no. They are picking Depp because we’ve seen and heard literal proof that Amber Heard was wildly emotionally and physically abusive and has been characterized in media as the sole victim who still has a ton of endorsement deals and roles despite many being taken away from Depp. We have photos showing physical abuse at the hands of Heard towards Depp. We have time frames of events that she swore on that don’t add up at all. We have second hand accounts of her mistreatment. We have skin specialists pointing out that she has passed off botex injections as facial bruises. She showed up to court dates that didn’t require her to be there and she then gave a speech about how it was so difficult to go through lol. But keep fighting the good fight against Depp in this situation. 👍 Nobody is saying Depp is an Angel - he’s certainly an emotional alcoholic, but Heard is the clear issue but things haven’t been characterized that way and it’s frustrating to a lot of people.
No love for Big Fish? Big Fish is my personal favorite Tim Burton film, has all of his hallmarks without slapping you in the face with them.
Yeah. He did a few good ones after this. That one where Depp played a murdering barber was pretty good as well.
Please do a Re:view of The Blob (1988). It will please me 😈
Jam Bal A while ago on a Pre-Rec livestream, Jay floated the idea of doing a "melt movie" Best of the Worst, with things like The Blob, but I think they decided the potential candidates were too good for BotW.
Welp you got your wish. It only took them a couple years haha
regardless of one's opinion about the films he's portrayed him in, I think Jack Sparrow is absolutely Johnny Depp's best performance. The character transcends the films.
That performance is so good people think about the character in his own context and the films are simply vehicles that house him.
The first movie is pretty awesome but they definitely go downhill
Completely agree. It's truly a shame he didn't win the Oscar for Best Actor that year.
@@jandcstopmotion7774 I'd say the two following sequels were pretty solid, the rest are considerably worse though
@@jandcstopmotion7774 I'd say the first 3 are all worthwhile movies. They're not good, but they're a lot of fun. Their biggest problem is that they take themselves too seriously. The first one is like 2 hours and 20 mins and it's the shortest one... a movie based on a fucking theme park...
@@aj.s... No, the problem was that they made Jack a clown after the first one. The writers forgot that Jack was just a very smart guy pretending to be an idiot to make others underestimate him, so they wrote him to be an actual idiot with tons of luck. The first movie was the most serious one, and it was the best by far.
Didn't even mention Vincent D'onofrio as Orson Welles
Or more interestingly he didn't even say his lines, they were voiced by Brain from Pinky and the Brain.
Beware of the big, green dragon that sits on your doorstep. He eats little boys, puppy dog tails and big, fat snails. Beware. Take care.
PULL DA STRING!!
Jonny Depp was also great in Rango, but people seem to forget about that one even though it’s awesome
In everyone's defense, people seem to forget EVERYTHING about Rango.
I CLAPPED BECAUSE ITS BLACK AND WHITE!!!
You know that was a Jay choice
Very Cool
JOH-NNY DEPP-Y! JOH-NNY DEPP-Y! JOH-NNY DEPP-Y! JOH-NNY DEPP-Y!
BELA LUGOSI INJECTED HIMSELF WITH A NEEDLE AND I CLAPPED
Aww come on guys. You completely forgot about Burton's last great film BIG FISH. Wonderful film, a shame Burton doesn't make them like that anymore.
Sweeney Todd is pretty good
This video is an edged weapon
Never watched a re:View before, but this is fantastic. They're knowledgeable on the subject and offer thoughtful criticism. I'm on board.
DoomBaby
TARANTINO'S STARK TREK IS HAPPENING MIKE!
What in the shiiiiet? If Paramount gives us a Tarantino Star Trak I may begin to forgive them.
t c
Then why you tryin' to fuck a Klingon, Brett?
t c
Ah shit, I shot Scotty in the face.
RoXo1987 supposedly rated r too lol
"Is there a sign, on that bulkhead, that says Dead Klingon Storage?"
Re:View is probably my favorite thing RLM does apart from BofW. It's awesome to see movies that don't get talked about enough getting their chance to shine and it's fun to hear them talked about so in depth.
Glen or Glenda, strangest and most dismal film I've seen.
Pull ze string
Lmao those Johnny Depp jokes aged terribly
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MST3K gave me an early appreciation for Ed Wood.
Yeah, I think Comedy Central even aired Glen or Glenda as part of an MST3K Ed Wood marathon back in the early 90's. I think a saw it when I was 9.
“I will create a race of people!”
“Rice-a-people? The San Francisco Treat?”
Mars Attacks deserves repeat viewings. I didn't much care for it the first time because I thought it was dumb and now I know that's its intention. It's a dumb big-budget B-movie and it's great.
Ed wood is one of the most bizarrely inspiring things I've ever seen: it makes failure look like fun!
This was such an amazing movie. I watched it for the first time roughly 10 years ago, and every now and again I watch it again. It just has such a sense of charm to it. So memorable.
I've not seen most of Tim Burton's filmography, but I do think that his last good film was definitely "Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street" (2007).
Might even be Johnny Depp's best performance. He even got nominated for "Best leading actor" in the oscars that year but lost out to Daniel Day Lewis for "There Will Be Blood" which is quite unlucky for him to be up against a nominee like that.
Sweeney Todd was flawed but after seeing Tim's movies that came after, its amazing.
Sleepy Hollow is one of my favorite movies of all time.
IMO Tim Burton's last great movie was Corpse Bride. Then "Big Eyes" came out and I was like "Whoa! Tim still has it!"
Anyone who hasn't seen "Big Eyes" and is a fan of Tim Burton, watch it! It is really good and Based On A True Story.
I just so happen to have been an extra in Bill Murray's "Larger Than Life" elephant film and even though it clearly had a budget, many of the things I saw occurring in Ed Wood, slapping different scenes together seemingly at the last minute, cutting and wrapping after one take happen on certain "big" films as well. Nonetheless I absolutely agree Ed Wood is a classic!
Y’all are criminally underrated. Fucking absolute best RUclips channel by far. Y’all entertained me through some of my worst shit and helped me stay in a positive and happy mindset.
Best wishes! love you mike, jay, rich, and the gang.
Burton's last good movie is Big Fish, not this movie.
You two MUST see "Living in Oblivion". It's the ultimate film about trying to make a film. Steve Buscemi, Catherine Keener, Dermot Mulroney, and James LeGros (featuring Peter Dinklage in his star-making turn at Tito, the World's Angriest Dwarf). Brilliant.
Turns out he wasn't a scumbag at all but a victim. :(
Big Fish and Frankenweenie were excellent tho....
I was aware of Ed Wood and Plan 9 From Outer Space two years before this movie was made, because of the 1992 computer game based on the Plan 9 From Outer Space movie :) I have not yet played the game, but it was mentioned a lot in computer game magazines I read in 1992 :)
Wow, I've seen Ed Wood several times and I never noticed that Depp was mimicking Ronald Reagan's comic timing. Once you see it you can't unsee it!
They had a double feature when Ed Wood was released combining it with a screening of Plan Nine. Half the theater was packed with people in heavy mascara, dressed in black the other half looked like they were on probation. Once Ed Wood was over the people in mascara stormed out in case they caught a glimpse of a movie not made by Tim Burton ... Weird times !
Conrad Brooks was a family friend, and we used to go out to breakfast with him every month. RIP to a legend!
This is great. Really good discussion and a perfect compliment to your Disaster Artist review. The last Tim Burton movie I really enjoyed was Big Fish. Burton movies seem to work best with a sort of realism within them to work up against. I wish he would do more of these kinds of films.
It's true that Tim Burton seems to have become a caricature of himself, but....
No love for Big Fish? I really enjoyed it
"And now Johnny Depp's a scumbag... alleged scumbag"
oof that aged like milk
Thats why he said alleged, it aged just fine
Shoutout to The Creeping Terror, which was featured in this video, and which my father watched as a child in theaters and never forgot it for how awful it was.
Love that movie.
I love Jay's idea of doing an Ed Wood style film based on John Waters and Pink Flamingos.
The Johnny Depp is a scumbag line didn’t age well in this review
Lost Highway, Angel Heart, Antichrist, Mulholland Drive, Suspiria, Possession, Donnie Darko, Seven, Dark City would all make phenomenal re:Views
get the papers get the papers American psycho?
I'm not sure how you could re:view Antichrist? What is there to say other than it's uncomfortable watching it!? I've seen it once and am trying to avoid seeing it again! 😉
Jackie Brown
I'd like a re:view of Lost Highway for certain
@Sarcastic dude well that and Mary Poppins yeah.
This movie was made very deliberately in Hollywood formula style, which is why it was so perfect to have the scene where Ed meets Orson Welles in that bar. We know it never happened, but it belongs in the movie because it's just so Hollywood.
The movie failed because mainstream audiences didn't want to pay $7 (or whatever it was back then) to see a black-and-white movie at the theater, but it wouldn't have been as good if they had done it in color. Not even a tenth as good.
I find this movie a near masterpiece everything is four stars but the excellent Bela Lugosi speech near the end almost elevates it to five stars his speech is one of the ten best ever put to film it gave me chills watching it the first time.
Sweeney Todd was 2007, staring Johnny Depp and directed by Tim Burton, and that movie's great.
Wonderful film. Martin landau deserved his Oscar and everyone was fantastic, one of Burton’s best films. Perfect Print It!
Such a great movie. I found this gem while living in Korea in 1998. I lived on K2 Airbase and I am certain I was the ONLY person renting this one. I watched it regularly. Such great casting! Johnny Depp and Bill Murray are hilariously funny but Martin Landau as Bela Lugosi was just amazing!
The Man who Knew Too Little is no cinematic masterpiece but I have always found it funny and enjoyed it. Also one of the few movies where I like and/or fell sorry for Peter Gallegher.
Im going to suggest a movie: Dark City.
Back when Burton had real passion, vision AND talent!
Peewee's Big Adventure / Beetlejuice / Edward Scissorhands / Ed Wood
- All are GLORIOUSLY directed, with a real unique visual character that actually encoded the directors personal truth,
rather than just egomaniacal ideosyncratic multi-million dollar CGI screen-doodles that don't add up to shit.
I'm interacting to support the channel.
This was better than PewDiePie playing Minecraft, or Markiplier and JackSepticEye playing Fortnite while watching ASMR videos.
Worst movie ever? Not at all. When things like _Manos, Hands of Fate_ exists, there's no way one can say Plan 9 is the worst.