@@centralfloridarailroadmodelers I appreciate your invitation but I think I won't be able to visit you because they have found out that I have cancer. If they will be able to fix me I might visit you some day if I would be aloud to fly.. Best regards Jef
This is an excellent layout with incredibly impressive detailing and weathering. I'm equally impressed by the story behind the trains. Awesome execution!
Depends on what part of North America you are modeling. We use "Place" for moving a car into an industry. The term "Spot" tends to be used more to indicate where in an industry the car should go if the car is ordered to a specific loading/unloading location.
This was very informative. Thanks for the effort in putting it together. I'm returning to the hobby after 35 years or so but never really understood "real" railroad stuff as a kid. Just ran trains. Now, I'm more interested in some of the actual processes involved and have recently been watching some switching videos. (The Inglenook puzzle and some simple switching layouts, etc.) This is the first session I've watched it on an "established" railroad and it was fascinating to see some of the decisions made on when to push cars into a siding temporarily and in what order things were picked up and dropped off, where they were placed and moved, etc.
switching is always a fun puzzle to conquer. That starts with the initial design of the layout. Our goal from the beginning was to design the layout with operations as a priority. Careful planning so anything is possible, the challenge will always be there. I'm glad you enjoyed! Please watch the rest of our videos, there is plenty of this in our other videos.
This layout is outstanding and amazingly well done it looks like a real town and CSX operations outstanding job by all members involved in the club and the production of this layout and this video
Lots of local traffic is now done by little class 3 operations, the class 1 seem to go mostly major yard to major yard. Lots of interesting little operations out there.
enjoyed this video. I had problems remembering this was a model layout because the weathering and scenery was so top notch my mind kept fading into prototype rail fanning. Fantastic work on this layout.
I really appreciate that you give us a taste of more detailed operations, but then push ahead with a simpler model. Really helps to paint a picture of how complex you can get, while still providing an accessible walkthrough. Can’t wait for your ops session!
Our goal was to bring as much "real" as possible. The layout itself was designed for operations and we do have a few club members that are retired from the railroad industry which is an advantage. Even our ops session dispatcher used to be a CSX dispatcher.
Very nicely done. The CSX units looked great, by the way... Just the right touch of weathering. Another realistic tip one might add that wasn't mentioned in the video is pausing sufficiently long to replicate the time it takes for the conductor (brakeman) to hook up a the brake hoses/release hand brakes/align couplers (we used to have a brakeman that never quite got coupler alignment, especially on curves lol)... Switching was part of a civilian contract I once worked at a military post that interchanged with CSX and these are things that stick in my mind to this day when I watch switching on layouts. Thanks for sharing this, for I became completely immersed in the work being done during the video. :)
I've ran an OPs session on a big layout like this. Takes a bit to get use to and planning on how to make a train for a run. I hope one day my layout will be this impressive.
the most fun model rr for me was a large oval, with some sidings and passing sidings. tand some operating acessoties. and a road switcher. imagine trying to get that to fit on a 4x8 with lionel 027 track
Just a note, but yard jobs work industries too. Not just locals. Whether the train working certain industries is a made a yard job or a local depends mainly on how far out they need to go. In the past there were "switching limits" around any yard which is as far as yard jobs could go, but that's a long gone rule. In some senses, yard job vs local is kind of arbitrary in a lot of cases these days. But mostly any customers within a certain radius of the yard would be a yard job, and if they need to venture further then that you'd need to call them a local instead. It might also depend on fudging certain numbers... that is, an industry-working yard job would still count against a terminal's "cars switched per man hour" metric even though they're not switching cars, they're working customers. So to keep the cars per man hour higher, local management might want to turn a yard job into a local even though it's still doing the same work.
Note taken and 100% valid. I was actually going to touch on that in a future video when we get into using train sheets and more detail into how yards work. We have a steel plant on the south end of the yard that a yard job services... stray tuned...
@@centralfloridarailroadmodelers i would mark up on our yard industry job as often as i could...didn't like it at first because i didn't know the playbook for the job but once i learned it, i liked it... the thing with those types of jobs is the foreman has to do EVERYTHING... you have to print out your workorder, print out your track list, mark your own list, go out and block your own train and then switch the customers... and while switching the customers you have to duck and dodge all the mainline trains that may be swarming around... sometimes i would do the work what i call a la carte... meaning i would take only one customers car/s, spot that one customer then come back to the yard... i did that with one customer we had called drywall inc because the track to get to them had a unprotected crossing that crossed a very busy "racetrack" type street... in the past i've waited too late and let the sun go down before i'd spot them (the job went on duty at 15:30) and trying to cross that road i had several close calls with vehicles almost smashing into the side of us... NOBODY was ready for a train at that crossing even with a ton of fusees and PLENTY of WHISTLE from the engr, folks still were startled and blew right through without even slowing down... so if i had them to switch, i would immediately go dig their car out, run around it and sprint up there BEFORE the sun went down... always had much better luck crossing there in daylight... and i got to go home early everyday on that job... tied up between 19:00 and 19:30 everyday
We fully understand the challenge. We have chemical cars on our track at work we didn't order! I'm like, "This is a food production facility you wankers"! & I'm not even British!😂🎉
Awesome layout! Too bad that Model Railroading is now a "Rich Man's" hobby. A simple N scale Inglebrook Switching Puzzle [ 2 manual turnouts, couple straight tracks, 1 Engine, 8 Rolling stock, a simple DC controller(no fancy bells, horns, engine sound)] that you set up on your floor or table will cost about $300++. Bench work, structures, scenery will add to the cost. A cheaper route would be to get a train set for $150 to $250 you can have the thrill of watching an engine pulling couple cars round and round on a small oval (no bench work, scenery, or fancy sounds).
It’s a 50/50 really with voice over but then again you don’t want to ruin the scene not being able to hear the sounds of the train that strengthens the realism modelers want as well
@@centralfloridarailroadmodelers One of the interesting things that I hadn't really noticed is that a decent number of people can't read very well, or quickly, and understand what's going on. Sure, they can read, but taking it in and not having it be a string of words can be difficult. I shouldn't say the can't read very well, it's just that there are things that inhibit that, like dyslexia or similar things. I definitely like the sounds of the layout though.
I'm very impressed. Everything looks so very realistic. I have enjoyed this very much. Greetings from the Netherlands.
Thank you!! If you come to the United States, you are welcome to come visit us!
@@centralfloridarailroadmodelers I appreciate your invitation but I think I won't be able to visit you because they have found out that I have cancer. If they will be able to fix me I might visit you some day if I would be aloud to fly.. Best regards Jef
This is an excellent layout with incredibly impressive detailing and weathering. I'm equally impressed by the story behind the trains. Awesome execution!
We have a very talented club member that has been putting these videos together, not to mention the weathering he does!
amazing
Good overview of the general principles. This is one of the most realistic layouts I've seen. Amazing work.
Very informative. I thought was watching real life. Heck of a layout.
I love a good long switching video. There's always something to learn.
With that said, be on the lookout for more switching videos. We are changing how freight is moved on the layout to the towns that have industries.
A very nice description of realistic model railroad operations on a great looking layout!
Many thanks!
Beautiful layout well done I noticed dirty metal wheels could you advise w chic h wheels are more prone to dirt plastic or metal
Nice weathering on locos and rolling stock.
Railroading is more complex than I ever imagined!
BUT its alot of fun!!!!!
I like the weathering on the rail cars
thanks
Weathering is great!
thanks
Great video and beautiful layout. The terms for switching industries would be to pull or spot the cars in the appropriate place at each industry.
Depends on what part of North America you are modeling. We use "Place" for moving a car into an industry. The term "Spot" tends to be used more to indicate where in an industry the car should go if the car is ordered to a specific loading/unloading location.
This was very informative. Thanks for the effort in putting it together. I'm returning to the hobby after 35 years or so but never really understood "real" railroad stuff as a kid. Just ran trains. Now, I'm more interested in some of the actual processes involved and have recently been watching some switching videos. (The Inglenook puzzle and some simple switching layouts, etc.) This is the first session I've watched it on an "established" railroad and it was fascinating to see some of the decisions made on when to push cars into a siding temporarily and in what order things were picked up and dropped off, where they were placed and moved, etc.
switching is always a fun puzzle to conquer. That starts with the initial design of the layout. Our goal from the beginning was to design the layout with operations as a priority. Careful planning so anything is possible, the challenge will always be there. I'm glad you enjoyed! Please watch the rest of our videos, there is plenty of this in our other videos.
This layout is outstanding and amazingly well done it looks like a real town and CSX operations outstanding job by all members involved in the club and the production of this layout and this video
Nice, helpful to those of us just getting into operations.
Glad to help
Lots of local traffic is now done by little class 3 operations, the class 1 seem to go mostly major yard to major yard. Lots of interesting little operations out there.
enjoyed this video. I had problems remembering this was a model layout because the weathering and scenery was so top notch my mind kept fading into prototype rail fanning. Fantastic work on this layout.
We have some very talented club members! Without them, our layout wouldn't be here! All of us are glad you enjoyed watching!
This video is helpful as I will be expanding my layout soon so that I can do operations.
This was a great job, interesting,love the layout and gives the railroad a reason to exist... Thank you
Your operation is outstanding!
Amazing ops session. Love the attention to detail and the descriptions of what's going on. Ben.
Just found your page. Great layout and info 🚂🔥🔥🔥✊
Welcome aboard!
Beautiful!
thanks
I really appreciate that you give us a taste of more detailed operations, but then push ahead with a simpler model. Really helps to paint a picture of how complex you can get, while still providing an accessible walkthrough. Can’t wait for your ops session!
Our goal was to bring as much "real" as possible. The layout itself was designed for operations and we do have a few club members that are retired from the railroad industry which is an advantage. Even our ops session dispatcher used to be a CSX dispatcher.
amazing
Very nice Switching Operation and an awesome layout
Rich
nice
So realistic,the graffiti on some of the cars adds so much detail.
Excellent video and great advice! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Very nicely done. The CSX units looked great, by the way... Just the right touch of weathering. Another realistic tip one might add that wasn't mentioned in the video is pausing sufficiently long to replicate the time it takes for the conductor (brakeman) to hook up a the brake hoses/release hand brakes/align couplers (we used to have a brakeman that never quite got coupler alignment, especially on curves lol)... Switching was part of a civilian contract I once worked at a military post that interchanged with CSX and these are things that stick in my mind to this day when I watch switching on layouts. Thanks for sharing this, for I became completely immersed in the work being done during the video. :)
As always great video!😊
nice
I've ran an OPs session on a big layout like this. Takes a bit to get use to and planning on how to make a train for a run. I hope one day my layout will be this impressive.
amazing
Awesome video just like the real thing great.
Thanks 👍
This was very cool!
the most fun model rr for me was a large oval, with some sidings and passing sidings. tand some operating acessoties. and a road switcher. imagine trying to get that to fit on a 4x8 with lionel 027 track
Powerful layout bro.
I made this week!
Interesting... all that's needed is a brakeman to ride the set-outs. J BC, Canada
ofcourse
The cars and engines are all weathered so well. Not a new looker in the batch.
Very interesting material. Beautifully detailed rolling stock. Maybe next time you could sharpen the visual focus.
good
Just a note, but yard jobs work industries too. Not just locals. Whether the train working certain industries is a made a yard job or a local depends mainly on how far out they need to go. In the past there were "switching limits" around any yard which is as far as yard jobs could go, but that's a long gone rule. In some senses, yard job vs local is kind of arbitrary in a lot of cases these days. But mostly any customers within a certain radius of the yard would be a yard job, and if they need to venture further then that you'd need to call them a local instead. It might also depend on fudging certain numbers... that is, an industry-working yard job would still count against a terminal's "cars switched per man hour" metric even though they're not switching cars, they're working customers. So to keep the cars per man hour higher, local management might want to turn a yard job into a local even though it's still doing the same work.
Note taken and 100% valid. I was actually going to touch on that in a future video when we get into using train sheets and more detail into how yards work. We have a steel plant on the south end of the yard that a yard job services... stray tuned...
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i would mark up on our yard industry job as often as i could...didn't like it at first because i didn't know the playbook for the job but once i learned it, i liked it... the thing with those types of jobs is the foreman has to do EVERYTHING... you have to print out your workorder, print out your track list, mark your own list, go out and block your own train and then switch the customers... and while switching the customers you have to duck and dodge all the mainline trains that may be swarming around... sometimes i would do the work what i call a la carte... meaning i would take only one customers car/s, spot that one customer then come back to the yard... i did that with one customer we had called drywall inc because the track to get to them had a unprotected crossing that crossed a very busy "racetrack" type street... in the past i've waited too late and let the sun go down before i'd spot them (the job went on duty at 15:30) and trying to cross that road i had several close calls with vehicles almost smashing into the side of us... NOBODY was ready for a train at that crossing even with a ton of fusees and PLENTY of WHISTLE from the engr, folks still were startled and blew right through without even slowing down... so if i had them to switch, i would immediately go dig their car out, run around it and sprint up there BEFORE the sun went down... always had much better luck crossing there in daylight... and i got to go home early everyday on that job... tied up between 19:00 and 19:30 everyday
How are the scrap loads in the gons made, look good
MOtrak makes great scrap loads.
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Right off the bat, did that train run a red signal?
where?
better download the event recorder
What scale is this?
HO
We fully understand the challenge. We have chemical cars on our track at work we didn't order! I'm like, "This is a food production facility you wankers"!
& I'm not even British!😂🎉
Somebody secretly replaced that gp38-2 engine with a 567 gp9 engine lol
shhhh
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Awesome layout! Too bad that Model Railroading is now a "Rich Man's" hobby. A simple N scale Inglebrook Switching Puzzle [ 2 manual turnouts, couple straight tracks, 1 Engine, 8 Rolling stock, a simple DC controller(no fancy bells, horns, engine sound)] that you set up on your floor or table will cost about $300++. Bench work, structures, scenery will add to the cost. A cheaper route would be to get a train set for $150 to $250 you can have the thrill of watching an engine pulling couple cars round and round on a small oval (no bench work, scenery, or fancy sounds).
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It´s a nice video, but I miss a voice just looking a screen for 1h and sometime read some text is no fun for me.
It’s a 50/50 really with voice over but then again you don’t want to ruin the scene not being able to hear the sounds of the train that strengthens the realism modelers want as well
@@centralfloridarailroadmodelers One of the interesting things that I hadn't really noticed is that a decent number of people can't read very well, or quickly, and understand what's going on. Sure, they can read, but taking it in and not having it be a string of words can be difficult. I shouldn't say the can't read very well, it's just that there are things that inhibit that, like dyslexia or similar things. I definitely like the sounds of the layout though.