Is A Toner Necessary?
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I can’t believe we are fighting like this 💜
Same, I make vidz btw😄
hi jamesss🥺
😂😂😂
I am neutral, I don’t really know about toner
I love toner 😍, I need what I love 😂
if you're new here:
- we don’t do makeup wipes
- if you wear makeup think about double cleanse
- no products with fragrance
- diy skincare is a big NONO
- Eye creams are expensive moisturizers
- Sunscreen!!! Every. Single. Day
- Chemical exfoliators >>>>>>> Physical exfoliators
- YES to Niacinamide
- (Drying) Alcohol in ingredients = DON’T BUY
- No raw coconut oil on skin! If you do you’re choosing death
- We like ‘The Ordinary’ and ‘CeraVe’
-We also stan ‘The Inkey list’
- Always moisturize (even if u have oily skin)
- We need to take down St. Ives
- We do shoulder shakes daily ;)
Ok, so this comment is not mine jeje, i just copied it from another video cuz i think i't might be helpful. So credits to that person, i don't remember the name, sorry
I love this. Hyram needs to see this lolllll
And NO polyethylene because it’s bad for marine wildlife
FACTS
These are Hyrams 15 skin commandments, I love it!
Do we like the body shop?
I love how the skincare community is all about spreading positive vibes and infos unlike the makeup community sheeesh
all communities are toxic in some way but the skincare routine is slightly more positive (unless u use something bad or say something hyram doesn’t agree with and then everyone attacks you lmao)
@@Jaggerx33 I mean it's Twitter, what did you expect.
YESSS
@@Jaggerx33 Twitter is THE toxic. Not the skincare community☺️
Yass siss 😎❤️
for me, toner cleared up my acne and ordinary serums made me break out. everyone’s skin is different. once i cut out ordinary serums and started using the much hated neutrogna toner my skin cleared up and is healthy now. everyone has different skin, don’t hate on hyram if something he says doesn’t give you perfect skin, it works for a lot of people
Why is it that neutrogena toner is much hated? Im just wondering because im actually using it and it makes my skin better.
same, i watched his videos and it says ordinary i spent about 40 dollars on them and i used them for a month and my skin just broke out more.
@@Lyss_272 maybe it's all purging 🤔🤔
@@DeanithForeverYoung ?
@@Lyss_272 when u use a new product the skin normally breaks out, it means it working, look it up
I believe its also about individual skin type. For those with dry skin, an extra layer of hydration with a toner is not bad. For the summer time, when dehydration is at peak, a hydrating toner could really feel soothing on the skin.
However, dehydrated oily skin may like it as well. This is what I prefer with my disco ball of a face. I'd rather have a hydrating toner or essence and a lighter moisturiser (e.g. silicone or dry oil based like the water bomb Korean formulas), especially if I want to put enough sunscreen at the end. My skin will simply not absorb that much moisture and all the occlusives. It will end up peeling off of my face or caking up my make up, so I'd rather give my skin more hydration, which is what it craves, with just a minimum of moisture as that is enough for me anyway.
I agree! I have oily skin and I need toner cuz I can adjust how much hydration I need each day. Some day I don't need it, some day I do. Adjusting hydration with toner is easier for my skin type cuz it's lighter, lessen my chance to get fun stuff like fungal acne and clogged pores.
@@lunasees7580 Exactly!
@@berlineczka I completely agree
@@lunasees7580 yes exactly. I love layering and I love to start with hydrating toners, gradually going towards heavier moisturizers. But during the summers I hate using creams, it just feels so uncomfortable. So the more hydrating products, the better for me. See that's what I meant, its totally about individual skin type and weather. Skin type + weather is the combo for me that decides my routine, like how much of hydration do I need and how much moistirization. I do get combination skin in monsoon, so at that time its about hydration more on the drier parts of my face.
I love when u do the shoulder shake and say “EVERY SINGLE WEEEEK” and when you snap your fingers and say “GET THAT SHIT TREATED!”
Well I love when he says " ingredients don't lie bitch" 😂😂
@@Abbie_doku lmao i say that all the time now too
One month ago: didn’t even care about skin care
Now bc started watching Hyram:160 dollar amazon wish list
You're still such minimalist 😤 I have more than 300 and I'm gonna eat ramen for the next month😂
@@Naraa001 i love you energy lol
Haha same. I use to wash with shower gel and moisturise sometimes, but started watching hyram, and I've got cleansers, moisturisers, serums, and an empty bank balance now.
Right
you can get things for cheaper on Ulta’s website or Sephora’s
Who else misses the Shelfie behind him lately?
@Kate Preslar you're right, but I def miss it! Excited to see what his new setup looks like
Meeeee
Yees
For oily skin, toner is an extremely effective way to add hydration to your skin during winter though. And by toner i meant hydrating toner. especially for those people who hate occlusive moisturizer lol
Hi, do you know a good hydrating toner that does not irritate or dry out sensitive skin? I feel I need a toner around my excema eye area to help against itching.
@@user-gc3rv6jw3n idk about effectiveness/safety when it comes to eczema, but Tiam VitaB5 toner is very hydrating and does not irritate.
What about the summer? Would you say toners for oily skin in the summer are also effective or rather not?
I really like when influencers say toners aren’t necessary because 99% of toners available in my country are like... perfume in a skincare bottle.
Samee
sim menina, inclusive odeio quando pessoal brasileiro indicando tônico sendo que a maioria dos nacionais são horríveis e álcool puro
Sim moça, todos tonicos aqui no Brasil são pura fragrância, e os que não tem são caríssimos, que barbaridade
Prefiro minha rotina de dois passos, espuma de limpeza, 1 minuto limpando com cuidado e depois faço massagem com meu creminho cerave
Outra coisa maravilhosa é beber água, isso deixou minha pele cristalina, não é necessário usar tantos produtos para se ter uma pele boa, acredito até que quanto menos, melhor
I'm trying to get my boyfriend into a skincare routine and i asked what skin type he has he said soft skin 😂
Girl just hug him 😂 You're both too cute 🥺❤️
At least he didn’t say handsome
hahaha
That’s so cute HAHA you’re like “yes u do honey”
My partner has the softest skin with little/no effort. And it’s disgusting 😏
I just violently did the shoulder shake and accidentally fell off my bed. Oops
HAHAHAHAHAHA I LOVE THAT SM
MEEEEEEEEEE
HAHAHAHA OMGGG
Yesss
PPPPPPFFTTTT you okay now dude? lol
Hyram’s facial structure is so beautiful like his jaw I-
So true!
GAGAGAGAGAGA!!! I watched this video and it is really not that good compared to my perfect videos. GAGAGAGAGA!!! This is NOT self-promotion! This is the reality! This is the world! We are the people! Don't disl****ke my vide*****s, my dear hats
no way i was just thinking about that
he's a real life ken doll
@@mediocretriplethreat legit!!!
THE SHELF!! THE PERFECT SHELF!
Petition to bring the shelf back:
Change is good, especially for personal growth, the shelf being gone signifies new beginnings
As a medical doctor I have always believed in skin care more than in make up. And I love how the skin care community, especially You, James, and few doctors there give positivity and good vibes about skin care. Trust me I was this guy who would was his face with any soap available, maybe till 2017. Everything has changed now. I just have simple skin care routine
Morning (am)
1. Cleanse
2. Tone
3. Antioxidant (Vit C/E)
4. Sunscreen (mineral)
Night (PM)
1. Oil balm cleansers
2. Regular cleanser ( Paula's choice)
3. Anti-aging (0.2% retinol)
4. Healing/ treatment ( Naicinamide)
5. Moisturizer/ mask
And sometimes exfoliating with SA from the ordinary.
So I have to thank u guys from changing me to the soap only guy to a guy with routine skin care ❤️🙏🙂
I used to use the clean n clear lemon toner... that's the real reason I'm going to therapy
MOOD
Girl same 😂
This whole line ruined my skin
Clean n clear cleanser broke me out so badly!! Their products are trash honestly!
Clean n clear face wash started my insecurity
I feel like toners aren’t necessary or the health of your skin but I would recommend getting one because they are fun and they feels very soothing to the skin
Agreed. The soothing aspect is a great reason to invest in one if you need it. I added one when I was trying to repair my moisture barrier, and it made a massive difference.
Toners make my skin feel extra clean !
I just realized that I love hydrating toners! My oily/combo dehydrated skin really agrees with them! Plus, it’s just a nice extra step
James welsh, robert welsh, Hyram, and Brad mondo would be the four musketeers
wtf it’s the THREE musketeers. why is robert in there he does makeup? james charles should be the makeup person. but it doesn’t matter because it’s THREE musketeers
@@shayerobertson1797 i mean brad doesn't do skincare either. I just think bcz they all give off the same vibes and good constructive criticism, that they fit well together
I would be a wreck without these four
Zara B true but robert is kinda random because brad is the most famous in hair care community, hyram is most famous in the skin care community, but robert isn’t very popular so it just doesn’t make sense🤨😂
i think it should be brad mondo james charles and hyram
@@shayerobertson1797 but James Charles now does more lifestyle or collaborations than tutorials where as Robert focuses more on teaching and discussing makeup application techniques also a lot of people prefer robert’s makeup style over James’
The shoulder shake and your tone while saying “every single week” is a vibe😂😂 I soooooooooo love it. ❤️❤️❤️
Only 12 likes? Woooow deserves more tbh
Yaaasssss I’m obsessed
Using a toner gives me the feeling of packing my skin , my pores together and preparing it to put moisturiser on
Good to know an Indian man liked to take care of his skin, like i literally don't hear these things often lol
Dirys what
@@dirys24 Not sure if you’re joking or not, since I see Indian men on ‘beauty’ type videos all the time. Especially hair and fashion.
@@dirys24 and was adding his race into context really necessary ?
I get the opposite feeling. I feel like the toner is removing anything leftover after my cleanse. Like sweeping the floor before moping. It removes any excess that I may have missed and even hard water or scum left over from the cleanser. I dont feel like its packing the pores. I feel like its cleaning it even more
"every single weeeeeekkkk" ahh never gets old
periodt
If your new here’s some skincare knowledge!
1: We Stan the ordinary, the inky list, youth to the people,cerea VE,krave beauty, Paulas choice and curology.
2: We dislike Mario badescu, clean and clear, most of neutrogena products, most of tatcha products, kiley skin, pixi skin and many more
3: fragrance is a BIG no. It can can cause many problems like irritation, rashes, pimples, acne and many more
4: Mario badescu sprays are just fragrance in water m💧
5: makeup wipes do more harm than good ( for your skin and the environment)
6: double cleanse if you wear makeup and or sunscreen
7: chemical exfoliating is way better than physical exfoliating
8: everyone’s skin is different
9: everyone needs to moisturize even if you have oily skin
10: use what works for you
11: fragrance is fine in a wash off treatment but not on a leave on treatment like moisturizer, surum, essence etc
12: be gentle with your skin
13: natural is not always better
14: sunscreen is the most important part of a skin care routine and should be used after everything else
15: eye creams are just expensive moisturizers and are not necessary , just use your regular moisturizer
16: our enemy is st. Ives apricot scrub😳
17: diy skincare is a no, most of them use essential oils (which are just as irritating as regular fragrance) and any of the good benefits that you could be getting from the ingredients are most like lost when you cut the fruit or vegetable open
18: enjoy yourself while doing your skincare and think of it as your you time
19: try to recycle ♻️ your empty skincare containers
20: a good and simple routine should have 4 steps,cleanser(this includes cleansing balms, oils etc), exfoliate, moisturizer, and the most important of them all, sunscreen.
21: ingredients to avoid. Denatured/SD alcohol, ethanol, isopropyl alcohol, polyvinyl alcohol(avoid these when they are in the first 6 ingredients). Avoid fragrance/parfum. Avoid fragrant essential oils (they are okay if they are at the end of the ingredient list). And avoid citrus extracts (lime, orange, lemon etc)
Hope this was informative. Tell me in the comments some more things I forgot
wait I use my cetaphil cleanser for 45 seconds, do i needa cleanse again because i use sunscreen or would that just be over stripping?
@@humairayt7359 if you wear sunscreen or makeup you should always double cleanse
Thank you
@Icy hot is it okey to use Seoul white Korea double whitening soap, and celeteque cleanser for double cleans? I mean are they good if I use both of them? bcs I always use sunscreen and makeup every day that’s why I need to double cleans
@Icy hot
I figured this because I haven’t used a toner in MONTHS and I literally see no difference
Same
I kinda knew this since day 1, when I found out about it and I was like ummm sure
@A Broke Kpop Stan Who Stans Like 20 Groups my face does the same with anything rose!! You probably have a sensitivity to it so I’d recommend using a different toner or just not using one at all!
@A Broke Kpop Stan Who Stans Like 20 Groups don't use anything at eye area except eye cream!!!
@A Broke Kpop Stan Who Stans Like 20 Groups maybe minimal skincare will suit u :) I tried whole innisfree green tea line but ended up washing my face lol now I'm into a oatmeal wash ....I can help u tho
1. Soak some oats in hot water for half hour then mix ut well until it turns a little sticky and white apply it on face after washing then follow up with soothing cream:)
I literally listened to Hyram, went to an esthetician and got 👏🏼my👏🏼shit👏🏼treated👏🏼and all I want to say is thank you from the bottom of my heart for giving me to courage to go seek professional help
hyram i literally don’t know what i would do without you and your videos, like it’s not even that you’re helping me understand skincare better it’s that you’re so respectful and civil when talking about these topics which makes me so happy because it makes me respect you more and makes me want to continue wanting to watch your videos. so thankyou
me watching hyram: NO TONER ❌🚫❌
me watching james: TONER 💕❤️💕💓💗💕
i'm following both of them, now idk if I'm supposed to use toner or not lol😂😭😭
It’s nice to have but not needed. It’s just another way to deliver actives.
HELP I HAVE A SKIN PROBLEM TEEN: so i have these little tiny pimples that have been on my skin from january this year. I tried popping it in july and now they are in the exact same place. They are black and white at the same time. Treatments dont work
@@motivateprofit please don’t pop your pimples! Do you cleanse your skin thoroughly? It may be build up from not cleansing properly. If that’s not the case, have you tried using a benzoyl peroxide wash? It usually helps with stubborn acne! If you can go to a specialist, please try to! If not, then a cleanser like PanOxyl might help. Just please use it in moderation and introduce it to your skin slowly (start with once a week, then work your way up to about 3 times a week. This will take some time though because benzoyl peroxide is a stronger ingredient). Don’t use any other actives with it. Just cleanse and hydrate and wear sunscreen during the day! Try to keep a simple routine and focus on nourishing ingredients as well as sun protection.
@@motivateprofit are they skin colored if so, use nizoral dandruff shampoo on the affected area. The little bumps you may be experiencing are called fungal acne.
can we get a truth about:
-avene
-eucerin
-benzagel
-honest beauty
ilysm hyram 🥺
I feel like he already did Honest Beauty?
Kara Reichert not yet 😭
@@AMELIA-oj5qk but He did 🤔 i remember watching a "the truth about" Video talking about honest beauty and how He was really surprised how many products have a nice Formular at an affordable price.
Edit: He goes Into Detail about honest beauty in his Video, in which He reacta to Jessica albas skincare Routine.
He did honest beauty in his reaction to Jessica alba skincare routine because its her brand
Eucerin please
He throws shade so unproblematically I love it 🤣🤣🙌
That shoulder shake is the only thing keeping me alive in 2020. Never change it 💙
i swear the skincare community is the one part of the beauty community that isnt toxic, i love yall
Is it just me or is St. Ives getting a little to comfortable with their ads while watching Hyram
I get it the scrubs are sent from hell hahah but I actually think st ives could redeem themselves if they completely rebranded and took a more "clinical/medicinal" branding instead of like fun and fruity... but thats a long shot.
@@dayna6082 i know they really should but the market is weird and keep in mind you and I are already more of "beauty enthusiasts" just because we are on this video. I'm sure there's tons of people who never watch RUclips and just see it in Target not knowing the real effects 🤔🤔 someone is keeping them in business
Ads are based on what you search or videos you watch.
2013: Harlem Shake
2020: Hyram Shake
I can’t get over how he changed the ICONIC background 😩
how
kinda sad ngl :/
temporary
diora why isn’t it normal? i was wondering and i was about to ask
@@rileyholland3363 i forgot, he’s on vacation or something
Can we please have an updated version of a skincare routine for dry skin types!!
Yessss!
So u want me to tell u a good cheap skincare routine or no
@@sassyqueen9739 yes pls!!
@@heensx2331 k what’s ur skin type??
@@sassyqueen9739 Sorry for the late reply! I have dry and sensitive skin.
Title : Is Toner necessary?
Thumbnail : “NO”
welp that explains it a lot 😅
Lmao true. I didn’t even realize 😂
Hahahaha that's what I was thinking
To be honest, this may not be necessary, but I will still use it, I will not spend a lot of money on toner, but in the morning, if I don’t use cleanser, I will use toner because sometimes I felt sometimes cleansers over cleanse my face
ikr but i still watched the vid lol
“That little shoulder shake”
Oh no sweetie pie, that’s the Hyram Shake😉🙌🏼❤️
That is classic 💯
Do the Hyram shake
@@FreyaJones0 this is my favorite comment ever
I'm going to be putting #dothehyramshake everywhere now..... Let's get it trending and let Hyram know how much we love him 😁💕
Anyone else so proud that’s he just blew up
Not really his opinions often flip its tiring trying to keep up with hyrams trends
He didn't actually blow up though. There wasn't one video that made him viral. He just gradually gained an audience, which I think is what makes him much more respectable.
Thousands of people stop in the middle of their day to watch a video about toner. Hyram you've built an army of skincare junkies XD
Lol
Yessss I love how you pointed out that toners are not meant to be an “extra cleanse” for the skin! That doesn’t even make sense when you think about it lol. Your videos are sooo informative💕
hyram looks so neat & clean
it’s so pleasing to the eyes 😌
I love Hyram and James Welsh's friendship/respect for each other :))
Everyone definitely has their own opinions when it comes to toners and I was someone that used a toner religiously up until about a few months ago but now I have removed it completely from my skincare routine.. They are nice to use but not necessary to have 🤗 Great video Hyram!!!
Yeah I got a toner because I’m starting to get into skincare and my mom was like you *need* a toner and so I decided to get one that he recommended and that I felt was going to be good for my skin so I could get my treatment and got the inkey list one . I also got into a small argument with my mom about face scrubs and I was like no I’m not using a scrub and I didn’t get one lol.
His smile is so infectious omg 🥺🥺we Stan a queen who radiates positivity 👑👑😌
Please make a “Truth about Wishful Skin” video!
I totally get your point and I agree. But thank you for the last part 😅 I am one of those who love toners. I have very dry skin and I love the feeling of applying toner after cleansing. My skin feels ready afterwards. I do apply a serum and a heavy moisturizer every day, but whenever I don't apply toner it just doesn't feel right. They won't "glide" and I end up using more product to compensate the dryness. Thank you for your videos! They are addictive 😄
My cousin just asked me the other day if she needed to use a toner for her skin care routine. Instead of me explaining it to her now I'll just have to send her this video :D
Anyone else just love the “every single week”
Hyram seems like the person that is always full of positive energy. I just wanna be your friend 🥺
Personally, for me dry skin toner is a MUST. I realized how toner is actually is a neccesity for my skin. And I truly believe that toner does make a huge difference in the long run as it helps to postpone saggy skin with age.
Which toner do you use?
@@briannaramos6677 rn Dear, Klairs unscented toner, but I am not a huge fan of it. It is ok. I think that Pyunkyang yul's toner is better for dry skin.
A toner (or liquid lotion) is supposed to not only add in hydration, but it also helps your next skincare steps penetrate the skin more effectively. I've seen a few companies use a watercolor paper metaphor to explain this. Basically the pigments of watercolors saturate more of the paper when it's wet than when it's dry. Kind of like how smearing moisturizer on my skin post shower just doesn't do the job as well. So yes, technically you don't need one but it will level up your routine IMHO.
Whatever
So I should just apply on damp skin instead of a toner?
When considering a toner I have always been told that skin is like a sponge. A sponge absorbs liquid much easier and a lot more of it when it is already damp as opposed to when it is dry, where the liquid runs right off of it. In relation to your skincare and the use of a toner, the toner acts as the 'dampening of the sponge' so that your additional products are able to be absorbed and therefore more effective.
With that said, I have had very dry skin ever since I went on accutane 5 years ago, so this advice could likely have a lot to do with the importance of hydration in my skincare routine.
I would love to hear your thoughts on this analogy, what do you think?? PS I LOVE YOU AND SKINCARE
did ur nose shrink?
If I had his skin I would actually be able to lose my house y’all
same
What?
Leave **
@@valerie3121 maybe she meant "leave" but my reaction is the same😂 how other 82 people understood
Same
Would you be able to make a video about how/if the different water types (hard/soft) affect skin care?
I just want to say: Hyram, thank you a lot for all the super educational videos and tips.
I struggled with acne since I was 12 years (now 23) and only this year I finally got rid of it after I decided to take strong medication for 8 months (isotretinoin "Accutane") because all those years NOTHING helped. I'm still acne free since I took my last medication a few weeks ago and I was so scared that my acne would come back the first day I stopped taking the medicine. Until recently, skincare has been so so very stressful to me. I learned a lot from your videos and now I can carefully and slowly start to test some products, because from the medicine my skin got so dry.
I feel so much better now and my self esteem got an enormous boost (which is at the same time kinda a weird feeling because its been over 10 years of trying to hide my skin under makeup and getting heavily bullied back in school). So yeah, when I look at products now I take a good look at the ingredient list before I'm going to buy anything and honestly I'm just so happy, thank you for everythig, I feel confident buying the right products now because now I know which ingredients could harm my skin (+ WHY they could harm) and which could be really beneficial. It feel SO GREAT to finally go outside without makeup and clear skin. Now I just have to work on healing scars and pigmentation left from acne.
Love love love from Germany and sorry for my not so great English! Please stay as you are 💜
Honestly, I've been using Hada Labo toner that really help to smoothens out my skin. I recommend it to my sisters and my friends. It really working out!!. I'm sorry. We love toner😭
Is your skin oily ?
this channel is literally becoming free weekly skincare classes
who said it wasn’t from the start👀
Hyram’s glow is brighter than my future
this was a comment on one of his other vids ;-;
Lmao I’m done
This channel helped me, a 30 year old mom of 3 boys, realize that a simple skin care routine is just as good as a crazy routine. My skin would get dry patches during the winter (and my st.ives scrub did nothing to help lol) and my skin would cry for moisture. Thank you for your grains of wisdom to help me make educated choices!
They shoulder shake is adorable. I like it because it is natural and human. I think, in a way it shows that you embrace to be funny, and in a very positive way a little bit “awkward”. And that, of course i can identify with and wish i had your courage to do so on camera. It is a small think but maybe one of the compounds that let you grow so fast.
I’ve been told for years that I don’t need to use a toner but it’s the one step that I love doing in the morning to start my day!
You should try the function of beauty skin care
Honestly your amazing I could not really leave my house cause I was so frightened of how I looked and your skincare advice has helped me so much and I actually feel like going outside again love you 💙🤍💙🤍💙
I NEVER used toner until I tried the Paula’s Choice skin balancing toner and now I’m hooked. I got it because I needed niacinamide in my routine, and the Ordinary’s niacinamide was a little too thick. I think it’s just about finding the right toner with benefits, not just a toner with practically no benefits :)
Hey I have this toner too, I'm just wary of the alcohol in it is this something to be worried about
What were your thoughts on the Ordinary's niacinimide because im considering to buy it soon. Honest thoughts ❤
Toner cleared my redness and kept my skin an even tone
I was wondering if you could make an updated video on your skincare routine, day and night, and how often you should use each product because I couldn’t find a lot of information on the internet, but also because you’re the only person I trust answering my questions.
Hyram has helped so many people.💗 I've learned so much from you! Thank you so much
LIKE IF THE INTRO NEVER GETS OLD
I legit said it all with him. Out loud. My mum was like "First you were Cinderella, then you were The Rock, and now you're Hyram?"
@@queenvanishka5868 ahha
i literally do the ENTIRE intro with him from aloha to the shoulder shake
Venting my skin care woes: Toners are needed in my routine because it gives me added hydration and it calms my skin. You might say just look for a better moisturizer. I've tried but my skin is so picky it's frustrating. It's hard to look for a balance between affordable and works for my skin. Also gel moisturizers could be too light for me but cream is too thick. So the moisturizer i use is a cross between them. I realized these type of moisturizers are quite rare like If they discontinue it, it will be a hard to find an alternative.. same goes for the cleanser that i like.. I can't buy it locally so i bought an alternative and its not as good.
YES when my skin used to be horribly dry, i felt like if anything those rich creams did nothing for me because there was no water in my skin for them to trap!! I know you mentioned affordable, so you can ignore this rec if you want, but the only thing that helped my dry skin was either the paula's choice primrose calming toner OR more recently i love her water infusing moisturizer layered under another thicker, creamier moisturizer (it's not really a gel, but when massaged into the skin it literally feels like your sticking water into your face and it is SO NICE and got rid of those gross patches on my face).
Her products are pricey though so i'd wait for one of those to be on sale (PC's website frequently has promotions for 20-30% off select products!) and if you struggle with redness and irritation, i'd also HIGHLY recommend the calm line--the moisturizer for dry skin in particular has been my favorite moisturizer for years now.
Yes! Also, they may be a great add-on to your skincare routine what it's more or less fine but just need a little bit of improvement. For example, you like all the products you're using, but sometimes you feel your face is a little dry at the end of the day. Or it gets a little reddish after cleansing or exfoliating and it takes it two days to come back to normal. Instead of starting a full try and error process of finding "a better serum" or "a better moisturiser" or "a less irritating cleanser", and risk irritations, failed purchases and a domino effect (e.g. the calmer cleanser doesn't go well with your moisturiser, so now you also need to find a new creme as well), just add a hydrating or calming toner in between et voila!
Thanks for the replies. I'm happy I'm not alone in this. Early this year I went on a trial and error phase/failed purchase after my old moisturizer got sold out and not restocked. The same thing is happening to me now with my cleanser. Sad life.
@@hrae91 I went through the same thing ugh I just started budgeting around and waiting for sales and stocking up whenever I found products that i knew for sure would work. i'm less likely to spend on makeup any fret about other stuff when my skin is clear and hydrated and not patchy or red anyway so i figured it was worth it haha
Im still in love with the First Aid Beauty Toner you recommended in their truth about video. You said you liked it because you felt it was more like an essence and I couldn't agree more. I live in a really dry climate with harsh winters and its sooo soothing to use under my moisturizer
When he said: you guys seem to like my intro and the shake shoulder... yeah, he was talking to me.. I felt that
Toners are most helpful and necessary for people with oily or acne-prone skin, or for people who want extra cleansing after wearing makeup or other heavy skin products such as sunscreen..I use neither of those but still use toners every time I wash because...
That's not all toner can do.
It shrinks pores,It restores your skin's pH balance.
Our skin is naturally acidic, It adds a layer of protection.
Toners can help close pores and tighten cell gaps after cleansing, reducing the penetration of impurities; It can act like a moisturizer.
Some toners are humectants, It refreshes skin, It can prevent ingrown hairs.
Makeup really needs a double cleanse. Water based cleansers alone will not dissolve most foundations and concealers
@@erinmoore9681 this dude posting use toner to wipe extra dirt on Hyram's videos opsie. this felt like 2012
@@marjattakolari521 what?
Pores don't shrink,they physically cant
@@mrselfdestruct7605 you’re right but products can make them APPEAR smaller.
Hyram: "shoulder shake"
Me: " IT'S A SHIMMY AND WE LOVE IT"
I have been binge-watching your videos for hours and I am surprised at how I am not tired of hearing the same voice yet! Thank you for this amazing channel, I feel like I am learning so much and finally on the way to take care of my skin and improve my acne situation
"Girl.. that doesn't mean your toner is working. It means your cleanser is shit." ❤️ Love this 💯
I do love your intro and everything you create. You're the only skincare guru i watch and enjoy listening to (also you help me lots, thank you!)
I’m late to the game and am currently binging. Do not regret. This is the format I’ve been looking for years! ❤️
Same!
roses are red violets are blue i love hyram and you should too!!
THE ONLY hydrating toner that also provides moisture and feels actually moisturising is the Laneige cream skin refiner, that one reaaaally helps barrier support if you’re dehydrated
I think it depends on your skin. I never used a toner until two yrs ago.....and I love it.
Hey hyram can you do the truth about alba Botanica skincare bc I use a lot of their products and I really want to know if they are actually good♡
Yes please!
I love their moisturizer. I cover myself in it every time I leave the shower, but not on my face. Milk makeup is my favorite for my face and recently I've been using ETUDE HOUSE SoonJung 2x Barrier Intensive Cream. Wayyyy cheaper than milk makeup but also a bit thicker since it's a "barrier cream"
Me after reading the title: we all know it's not necessary Hyram, you've told us 100 times... BUT IM STILL GONNA WATCH IT
‘Skin-fluencer’ 🙌🏽 First time I’ve heard this and it’s amazing
Thought this video was extremely helpful. I’m a male new too the whole skincare world and trying to learn a routine for the first time. It’s been difficult bc of the overwhelming amount of information and products out there. I’m glad I found your page and that you preach the necessities.
I’d love to see more videos like this! I’ve noticed you mention keeping it simple with a 4 or 5 step routine in a few videos. I think it would be fantastic and super helpful if you made a video like this for each step of the process (I.e explaining the necessity of a cleanser/exfoliate/treatment/moisturizer etc - why it’s important? Exactly what it does for the skin? What the benefits are and how it works in relation to the other steps of a routine? Or how the steps differ from each other etc etc). I really enjoy understanding the process and exactly what I am doing to my skin, rather than simply buying a product and using it.
Looking forward to your new videos and trying to get a grip on this seemingly chaotic world of skincare, thanks!!!
Hello, I'm from Malaysia!
I like how u accept and respect others opinions!
Yes I think so nothing is useless. Anything can be useful if used in different ways/conditions.
I heard from a Taiwanese youtuber "Dr. Ivan6", he suggested use toner with cotton pads before using vitamin c.
This process will enhance the effect of brightening skin because of exfoliation.
PS: Sorry for my broken English
my skin has gone downhill since school started again and i need to establish a skin care routine-this upload is right on time!!
Hey everyone! Sort of new here. I discovered Hyram last year and he has completely changed my opinion on skincare. I used to think it was hassle so I literally just splashed warm water on my face and wiped it off. Tried proactive, burned my skin, tried St. Ives, felt terrible. But now I double cleanse and use serums and moisturizers. More to the point of this video, since my skin tends to have adverse reactions to A LOT of stuff I actually do use a toner and it made a difference for me. It’s Peach & Lily’s The Good Acids toner. It’s a gentle chemical exfoliate to remove dead skin and i went from minor break outs to almost none once i started using it instead of physical exfoliants (even though I do gently physically exfoliate my face once a month). So while I agree they probably aren’t necessary this one really helped me and i do recommend them!
Something about his personality and beautiful skin makes me think this might just be authentic :D
It depends on the skin type tho. I had bumps on my forehead and I started using thayers toner (very sparingly) and it made the bumps go away. I use a bit and then slather my face with cream. My skin has gotten better. I think it was mask ace
Acne*
I can't believe how well he does his intro with the shoulder's I binge him all day.
I am also huge fan of toner . It may be weird for y'all I used to skip moisturizer but not toner 🙄😣
Did you watch the video? You’re not doing your skin any favors if you don’t moisturize.
it's cool that he and james welsh can agree to disagree on this
Thanks Hyram for making this video!
I was confused about toners for so long. I tried a couple different types they didn't really do anything for me. The minimalist in me decided to go without for a while and it was better for my skin.
Would love to see a video on vintage skincare maybe a reaction/diving into the history of it. There are plenty of archival skincare ads from the 20th century here on yt, it'd be interesting to hear your take!
Hyram, you are the reason I have a proper skincare routine (which I just started this year when I moved to a cold country). I love your philosophy of telling us what is absolutely necessary and what can be optionally added later. This is so helpful for noobs like me who used to not even moisturize (eeek) :D
the new filming locations and backgrounds r making me CURIOUS
ME: *buys a lot of toner from the 11.11 sale!🤩🤩🤩
Hyram: *does not really think toners are not necessary.
ME: 🥺🥺🥺
@Shonali Akhter was talking about Lazada 11.11. But yeah same thing! 🤣
Filipino squad?
😆😆😆😆
@@devonsmurfette893 yeap. Filipino squad!
It still helps tho
I love watching your videos, and I will say this might be one of my favorites not because I’m learning about toners but, because you are expressing your opinion with facts and speaking so eloquently. Even giving some toner suggestions! I really admire how you speak and how conscience you are about it.
Thanks for another amazing video!! 💕
I like using a toner because I like for my skin to feel damp for a longer period after washing it. Also applying your next step of skin care will be more beneficial because a damp face absorbs more product than dry sealed skin. I have very dry dehydrated skin. I learned this from James Welsh I think lol
I love toner, have always used it and always will use it. I have very oily skin with huge pores, and toners make my face feel fresh & clean. I use a cotton pad to apply as using my hands didn’t feel as good.
The Korean toners are very refreshing and hydrating, I use a normal toner in the morning and an acid toner at night.