I think it was last winter here on Maui about a mile off the coast of Olawalu a 10' white shark attacked a kayak. The kayak was manned by a local wildlife photog and his 15 year old son. They were attempting to photograph a newly born humpback calf. The shark attacked the kayak knocking them both into the water. They attempted to paddle it back to shore but it was too badly damaged...and as they swam back to shore they could hear the shark continuing to ravage the kayak. Can you imagine what that swim would have been like??
sounds like the shark really didnt like them / the kayak being near the whale calf because it was probably trying to predate the whale calf. Sharks feed on whale carceses out in the ocean and are very territorial and aggressive around these dead whales, for example the Discovery channel put a human in a box near a dead whale and the shark smashed the box to pieces but left the human alone when we swam for his life. Shark Bytes youtube channel covers this.
Two months ago I went solo sailing and was ten miles east of Kaneohe Bay. I was in several thousand feet and at the helm about to change directions and something to my left in the water caught my eye. I looked and saw a massive snout with eyes on either side, each eye was easily five feet apart. The top of the creature was dark black and inches before hitting the hull it immediately did a 180 and took off back down under the water, causing a huge commotion and drenching me in the process. As it turned I caught a glimpse of its belly and it was snow white. I am 99% certain this was a massive great white that mistook my sailboat for a prey item. The entire encounter lasted three seconds.
That’s pretty crazy, White sharks travel vast distances every day. I totally think that in your case and this case, a white shark is to blame. They come to warmer waters to breed and when they are pregnant they become more aggressive
They were feeding until all the boats turned up to sightsee, courtesy of Ocean Ramsey sticking it on social media. The feeding was then interrupted which it should not have been.
I was on Maui when this happened and it took a while for the story to trickle out. 50 yards from shore.. the shark was aggressive to the husband, circled, and left, he went looking for his wife but couldn’t find her, the shark came back and he went in and made the report. Search and rescue was on scene fast with jet skis and boats and found nothing. But people on the beach reported seeing a large shark feeding off shore.
I live in Hawaii on the island of Oahu, and before shark fishing was banned I used to help tag the Tiger Sharks from shore. The biggest one I ever caught was a pregnant female who was 13’5 and around 1400lbs. I caught them this size VERY regularly. I think they are more active around the harbors because they fillet the carcasses of the marlin and ahi and then throw them in the harbors and waters surrounding the shorelines. They are absolutely beautiful and I am a firm believer they don’t even like coming close to shore based on what they would do when they would fight on the line ❤
I still trip the DLNR banned shark fishing in Hawaii, my family used it for halalu and crab bait. From my understanding you now need a permit to harvest sharks or even bring them out of the water. I wonder how that’ll effect the ocean ecosystem in the long term concerning shark attacks, turtle populations, etc.
I live in Hawaii and visit family in Maui frequently and I can say it was most probably a tiger shark. We've seen one rip apart a cow that made it's way in the water for what ever reason.
I saw a cow fall off a cliff at Waimea Bay Oahu..... There's lots of plateaus in Hawaii. Sure, plenty of inaccessible peaks to. We should've have been laughing but.... We were restaurant help on a "weed" break and...... rruuhhhmooooo THUMP followed by silence.
Ocean Ramsey isn't swimming with Big Blue. It's a large great white that was gorging on a nearby whale carcass but not Big Blue. My source is Sharkbytes here on RUclips. He's a actual marine biologist that focuses on sharks.
And she's also not called "Big Blue" She's named "Deep Blue" That being said, I agree. You can go and look at the "Deep Blue" footage and see that the scars and markings are different than the one filmed in Hawaii. Most noticeably, the very distinctive black markings on the underside of Deep Blue.
I watch a RUclips channel called Sharks Happen. I would bet this was either a Tiger or a Great White. Tigers can get very big, like 20' big. Tiger sharks often take a chunk or two and move on, often the victim passes due to blood loss. Big Great White attacks often leave only wet suits, scuba gear, clothing as evidence. I believe this was most likely a Great White. It's terrible that poor man was suspected of foul play at the same time of loosing his wife. Bad deal all the way around. If the water has a salty taste... there are sharks
Currently on vacation in Maui visiting family. This happened days before we got here on a beach near where we’re staying. Shark attacks are rare but there are reasons the locals say not to swim in murky water and at certain times of day. The locals believe it was a tiger shark but I don’t know if that’s been confirmed.
Comparing a great white attacking (and most likely, surprising) a snorkeling human with no protection whatsoever, to a tiger attacking a turtle (who clearly has evolved to maneuver itself with the shell facing the tiger in order to avoid being bitten) is not a good comparison at all
I totally agree with your take. My expertise only extends to watching you and Sharks happen. The attack sound like a typical Great white deadly attack.
Sea turtles will instinctively roll on their side to present a wider target for the shark to try and grab. I've had locals in Maui tell me they've seen tigers big enough to fit these sideways turtles into their jaws, and crush them in one bite. Forest could be right about the white shark, but don't count out tigers swallowing humans whole.
I live on Maui and in the same week that this happened there was also a report of a shark that attacked a deer that went into the ocean but I’m pretty sure they said it was a tiger shark.
Blue was feeding on a Humpback whale carcass, she was gourged from her meal. Ocean Ramsey knew she would be in no danger of being on the menu because it had days of a free meal.
Yes those main pics with Ocean are of Haole Girl. Haole (White Visitor) named by Wildlife Photographer Kim Jeffries back in 2019 while filming with I believe Andrew Grey. Those two filmed Haole and Big Blue. Also I believe there was a 3rd White almost as big…Haole was tagged around 18ft while Blue is around 20ft. Not saying Ocean didn’t swim with Blue but from what I saw it’s Haole Girl. Either way, I’m extremely jealous!!!
Saw a turtle attacked at a beach in Florida. Couldn't really see the shark, but the turtle was large. A bunch of people on the beach wanted to go out and save the turtle, but life guards kept them back. I was ok staying on the beach.
@@morbidone88agreed, it’s not even cruel though. Us humans like associating traits with things that aren’t even alive lol. Nature only seems cruel because we don’t actively hunt and eat things like predators do yaknow? If crocodiles trapped food then killed it and cooked it over an open fire we wouldn’t even bat an eye
@@Raumes513 🤣 oh bro, if I saw a crocodile having a beer and cooking, I'm doing more than batting an eye!! Jk, but I agree mostly. It's our sapient nature that allows us to anthropomorphize animals. Seeing something being eaten alive is hard to see, but it's wrong to take food out of the mouth of a predator simply bc you Don't think it's fair..
@@morbidone88 haha well if crocs always did that it wouldn’t be as much of a shock 🤣🤣🤣 bad analogy but I’m glad you got my point hahaha. But yea I agree it’s not hard for me to watch because of grew up on the nature channel lol but I can see how it’s horrible if you’re not into that
The west facing side of Maui, also know as “oluwalu” is the main breeding ground for all tiger sharks. So they return every year to reproduce on the west side, could’ve been an aggressive tiger. If not, I’d totally agree about a great white attack.
Sounds like a bull shark. 12 feet would be pretty much the maximum length of a bull shark but they are not only tenacious, aggressive and persistent but they tend to drag large prey, such as people, to deeper water. That being said without a positive identification it could have been a number of sharks. Any one of the big three can kill a person with one powerful bite. Even at 12 foot. Hell it could have been an oceanic white tip.
@@johngerg8071 That doesn't mean anything to me. Lots of things weren't documented until they were. My belief of what's possible is not dependent on what's documented. As in many fields for many subjects, dependency on what is documented has turned out to be fraudulent.
I love to watch videos from The Malibu Artist, he's given me, and the rest of the world I'm guessing, a complete different view of sharks, especially white sharks
I was in the water off Olowalu about six months back, 1/3 mile out, checking out a monk seal. There was a sail boat nearby and they were yelling at us “did you see that great white banging our boat?” I didn’t but spooky thinking one was only tens of feet away. Just months earlier two people were knocked off their outrigger by a great white, but they were unmolested. So they are definitely hanging around the Western part of Maui.
That's not Deep Blue it's Haole girl . They are both huge sharks from 18' to 21' , but I believe Deep Blue is larger than Haole girl by about 1.5 to 2 feet .
The shark isn't "toying" with the turtle. The turtle is turning its back to the sharks mouth as it's only method of defense. It ends up biting the shark on the tail and it swims off.
Most likely a Tiger Shark. The GWS swimming with Ocean Ramsay was full of Whale meat. The turtle is doing a great job of blocking the Tiger Shark with its shell. At the end of the video the shark just gives up if it's the same video that I saw last week.
Ya after putting into perspective how they hunt it makes sense, she would have been on the water screaming getting picked apart by a tiger, but if she just disappear and there way blood then a white shark makes more sense
A Tiger shark attacked a swimmer/diver several weeks ago in the same area.The Tiger bite the man on his leg and rear end.The man was saved by two(2) paddle boarders.
I use to commercial dive for spear fish in Hawaii 30 years ago ive seen many tiger sharks some mellow some aggressive had a few close calls never had to harm or kill any of these aggressive tigers but there was this one time when a huge shark ate my fish off my spear and tried to bite me it moved so fast surprisingly being how huge it was after jabbing it with with my spear gun stock and punching its head as it darted by it made a quick U turn about 20-25 feet below me as i surfaced it charged straight up towards me with its mouth wide open by this time i had loaded my spear shaft in my gun but did not have my rubber bands pulled locked to fire. As it swam up like a bullet i jabbed my spear at its nose and eye keeping it from bitting me it moved and made a crazy turn by this time i had my gun loaded it charge me on more time hmmm but this time i had no choice but to shoot it. I spinned it right behind its gills :( i tried to swim it to shore but my 700lb mono line snap off the water turn black as the shark swam in a circle with my five foot shaft stuck in its side. The scariest thing was to hear its teeth bitting as it mouth opened and closed. Later on shore i realize that it was my first and only time ever encountered a great white. Recently a white was recorded in the same area. Sad for the lose of life. God bless.....
@@SourPatchPuss well i didn't put a tape on it lol but about 16-18 ft maybe 20 and really wide ive rubbed up against a 14 ft tiger before it was way bigger and fast not like the videos of them swimming slow and mellow. I guess it had coffee and wanted a toasted treat too lol
@@Kalokala10 incredible encounter, combat with a large shark snds unimaginably terrifying. I have heard a story of a tiger preying on shipwrecked tourists in Australia. Ate 2/3 ppl on way to an emerged reef where the sole survivor was able to stay above water and eventually be rescued. Apparently the second guy put up a hell of a fight, elbows smashing and kicking the shark on the surface. Eventually was killed and picked upside down out of water like nothing by the shark. Exsanguinated possibly from bites and might've drowned even being out of breath from the flurry and then pulled under. Either way it sounds like when these things are amped it's not like the tame ones you see eating out of divers hands. There's a few videos of bullsharks (which I think have to be closest relative of tigershark if you look closely) where the shark is circling slowly fins down and then it's like a light switch *boom* they commit *100%* .
@@jessebrown1400 sad part i did not get to harvest the fish and i lost my spear shaft. I wish it would have let me swim away but it was hungry and i didn't want to be dinner :(
@@Kalokala10 you think it could've survived given the possibility the wound would puss out and then maybe the shaft would fall out? I wonder how tough sharks are to spears, I've seen a picture of a tiger shark that took like 10 shafts to finally kill it, they seem tougher than hell.
Deep Blue is about 21 feet, but the White shark in the Ocean Ramsay video is Haoli Girl, which is about 19.5 feet. Also, she may not have been pregnant, as she had just been gorging herself on a nearby whale carcass, so she may have just had her stomach puffed out from consumed whale blubber.
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The turtle was turning the top part of it's shell, very successfully, towards the tiger sharks mouth. A big rush attack like you say wouldn't work. That's probably why it's not doing that. Not because it can't.
So. Currently watching the first season of extinct or alive, and it made me wonder, how close someone has been to getting bitten while recording. (Mitch almost stepped on the 100 pacer)
The tIger shark can reach 16ft but usually is under 14 ft , but how ever there are at least 7-9 species of shark usually near Maui there is a shark called the Galapagos shark which is hunted by humans because we believe they are aggressive. Found this on google ; Image result for galapagos shark hawaii Adult Galapagos sharks are very inquisitive, often showing aggression towards fishermen who try to scare them away. Once they become excited, they are difficult to deter, and when they go into a frenzy they may attack anything floating on the surface of the water
That sea turtle probably lived through that encounter from what I understand. They defend themselves by flipping sideways so the shark can't get it's tiny weird mouth around it? Did I see that on your channel or one of the 10 other shark/reptile related channels I follow? Lol
Big Blue was the biggest Great white shark at Hawaii , but she wasn't the only big female Great white filmed . I saw a documentary on it ,i think on Discovery channel ,shark week 👍✌
"Straight away authorities are going to assume it's a tiger shark" No, authorities are going to assume it's the spouse. And they did. "For some reason the tigers in Hawaii defend the sea more aggressive than the Caribbean and..." I can relate. I just "defended" a double cheese burger out of my grill for lunch. "Let me show you how stories are sold. Kyle, pull up this huge scary looking pregnant great white that has a first name. That one's definitely it".
How do you compare an attack on a turtle to humans? Literally a turtle has a substantial more chance of surviving a bear attack, wolf attack, shark, etc than a fleshly human lol. Silly stuff.
i Live in Hawaii and a GW track here would be unprecedented Occams Razor would dispel the GW attack given the rarity and the high number of tiger attacks that happen hwre
How could this happen? Experts have said that sharks only take investigative bites and would never eat humans. So why do these sharks eat the whole body of the humans since they don’t like how we taste?
@@jameslipsey if sharks truly liked us as food then there would be no one swimming in the water at beaches because sharks would be hunting us. But that’s just not the case. Sharks swim around humans every day and don’t bite. Occasionally one of the big sharks take someone’s life. That’s the risk. It’s not like going into a river with crocs. They will kill you 95% of the time. Sharks won’t. So something is not adding up with your comment. This is my opinion and I understand how you have your opinion too. I personally spearfish and participate in ocean activities all the time as I live in Florida. If I see a big shark. I get out. But I’ve never been surprise attacked…. Yet! 😂
I'm sure it was a Tiger. And I am sure the husband had nothing to do with the death as rumored. We snorkel all the time in Hawaii and it's very easy to get separated while snorkeling because there's so much to see. It's luck of the draw.
Possibly a White shark which do on occasion appear in the waters there, or a large Tiger! The one with Ramsey I believe she was swimming with a White shark that had been feeding on a whale caucus and was insanely full, that's why they all got in the water with it, but I could be wrong! That's not deep blue either!
Whites a definite possibility but also this is prime tiger season in the islands. And if you go through attack records on humans they do tend to cause massive injuries leading to quick deaths and total consumption similar to GW attacks, especially on divers. A cool aside, new research has shown tigers in Hawaii and the indo-pacific are genetically distinct from Atlantic populations and from experience catching them the Island-Indo-Pac fish behave entirely different on line compared to Atlantic Ocean specimens. Even with fish of compared length, weight and sex in similar water temps etc the Atlantic fish are much more likely to behave more sluggish, lazy, swim to shore more and make fewer and much shorter runs when caught. Meanwhile Pacific tigers tend to behave like a freight train when hooked making long runs and putting up impressive fights on par with large great hammerhead. This difference in fight behavior is pretty well known in the Australian, Carolina, Florida, Hawaii and South African land fishing community.
Human beings swimming with apex predators of the sea like some esoteric squirrel dancing with a tiger, the shark is not extending some-evolution defying spirit of oneness, it’s looking for the meatiest part of your body and wondering if you’re one snack too many given the baby dolphin it just ate
If that were truly the case then people would be dropping like flies every day to sharks and no one would go in the water or beaches. Sharks aren’t human killing machines. Though I will say I don’t like going into the water without my speargun or lobster net just in case a shark gets a little too close. Sharks aren’t like the Australian crocodiles. Though I do agree if a big shark is hungry, get out. I personally get out even if I see a threading shark like a bull tiger or white. I’ve never seen a tiger or white thanfuklly. But there are people who have no problem Spearfishing even when sharks are present. That is something I don’t do. Floridian here.
Hey guys, not sure how new both of you are to using the internet yet, but labeling half of your RUclips videos as “Patreon Exclusives” does not make any sense at all
I track white sharks for fun, and not pointing any fingers… but a 12ft white shark named Tough Guy was last pinged off the coast of hawaii on Christmas Day. They are there.
Know it all no nothings, searching for clicks. That white shark was in much, much deeper water than where the snorkeling was occurring on Maui. All great white sightings have been very far out at sea and never near shore. Finally, a turtle has a hard shell, not soft flesh…I’ve seen white shark attacks within meters…my friends have been both bitten and killed by both whites and tigers. A tiger most certainly could have killed a snorkeler and taken the body away to where it could not have been recovered. Just search the story about a tourist surfer, who drowned at Himalayas and body was spotted the next day by helicopters…was being circled by tigers and then vanished minutes later.
First of all, if you’re going to talk about one of the biggest sharks of all times, no other name, it’s deep blue sea has been found in Hawaii, but she hasn’t been seen in over five years the other, or a great white shark that resides in Hawaii is hula girl who always gets confused with deep blue. At least learn the names if you wanna talk about it.
The way tigers and white's attack aren't that different the reson the tiger in the video is having a hard time (not toying) with the turtle is because the turtle knows to keep its back to the shark so it carnt take a bite out of it
Although your not likely to be attacked especially in a healthy ecosystem you have to accept the risk anytime you enter an apex predators domain that you could potentially be on the menu or receive a investigatory bite that could be fatal. On another note and although it hasn’t been documented yet we can assume the white sharks mating process is similar to that of other large sharks in which case can you imagine the cahones you’d need to as a male white shark to try to mount a huge female like deep blue who could have 6 feet or more on you and the added weight it brings? That’s gotta be a bold shark
Had to be a tiger shark. I lived on Oahu for 9 years but there really were not very many shark attacks there. I thought that when the great white sharks are in Hawaii they are not aggressive.
@@BanginSevenGrams I heard that in a documentary. I now live in Northern California and you won’t catch me swimming in the ocean here. I don’t think there has ever been a reported great white attack in Hawaii.
I think it was last winter here on Maui about a mile off the coast of Olawalu a 10' white shark attacked a kayak. The kayak was manned by a local wildlife photog and his 15 year old son. They were attempting to photograph a newly born humpback calf. The shark attacked the kayak knocking them both into the water. They attempted to paddle it back to shore but it was too badly damaged...and as they swam back to shore they could hear the shark continuing to ravage the kayak. Can you imagine what that swim would have been like??
Good god.....that's nuts
To answer your question.. HELL NO I couldn’t imagine that lol
I've seen more evidence that great whites can be highly territorial in many of their aggressions. But horrifying in any case.
sounds like the shark really didnt like them / the kayak being near the whale calf because it was probably trying to predate the whale calf. Sharks feed on whale carceses out in the ocean and are very territorial and aggressive around these dead whales, for example the Discovery channel put a human in a box near a dead whale and the shark smashed the box to pieces but left the human alone when we swam for his life. Shark Bytes youtube channel covers this.
I just sh%$ my pants reading your comment. So, I could only imagine experiencing that.
Two months ago I went solo sailing and was ten miles east of Kaneohe Bay. I was in several thousand feet and at the helm about to change directions and something to my left in the water caught my eye. I looked and saw a massive snout with eyes on either side, each eye was easily five feet apart. The top of the creature was dark black and inches before hitting the hull it immediately did a 180 and took off back down under the water, causing a huge commotion and drenching me in the process. As it turned I caught a glimpse of its belly and it was snow white. I am 99% certain this was a massive great white that mistook my sailboat for a prey item. The entire encounter lasted three seconds.
That’s pretty crazy, White sharks travel vast distances every day. I totally think that in your case and this case, a white shark is to blame. They come to warmer waters to breed and when they are pregnant they become more aggressive
That footage of Ocean in Hawaii is not Deep Blue, it’s Ocean with Haole Girl.
There was a whale carcass nearby that many sharks were feeding off of.
That's what my son just told me as well. He's a shark fiend.
They were feeding until all the boats turned up to sightsee, courtesy of Ocean Ramsey sticking it on social media. The feeding was then interrupted which it should not have been.
If you are into shark attacks you will love the channel Sharks happen.
Some crazy stories
I follow him too. Definitely a good channel to check out.
I was on Maui when this happened and it took a while for the story to trickle out. 50 yards from shore.. the shark was aggressive to the husband, circled, and left, he went looking for his wife but couldn’t find her, the shark came back and he went in and made the report. Search and rescue was on scene fast with jet skis and boats and found nothing. But people on the beach reported seeing a large shark feeding off shore.
I live in Hawaii on the island of Oahu, and before shark fishing was banned I used to help tag the Tiger Sharks from shore. The biggest one I ever caught was a pregnant female who was 13’5 and around 1400lbs. I caught them this size VERY regularly. I think they are more active around the harbors because they fillet the carcasses of the marlin and ahi and then throw them in the harbors and waters surrounding the shorelines. They are absolutely beautiful and I am a firm believer they don’t even like coming close to shore based on what they would do when they would fight on the line ❤
I used to live on Oahu too! I lived on the west side of the island.
I still trip the DLNR banned shark fishing in Hawaii, my family used it for halalu and crab bait. From my understanding you now need a permit to harvest sharks or even bring them out of the water. I wonder how that’ll effect the ocean ecosystem in the long term concerning shark attacks, turtle populations, etc.
She's named "Deep Blue" but the one in Hawaii is a different shark. Both massive females, but both with distinctly different markings
I live in Hawaii and visit family in Maui frequently and I can say it was most probably a tiger shark. We've seen one rip apart a cow that made it's way in the water for what ever reason.
it left nothing behind though
I agree. This guy doesn’t have a clue. Underwater I doubt a Great White attacked. Tiger Sharks are nasty.
I saw a cow fall off a cliff at Waimea Bay Oahu..... There's lots of plateaus in Hawaii. Sure, plenty of inaccessible peaks to. We should've have been laughing but.... We were restaurant help on a "weed" break and...... rruuhhhmooooo THUMP followed by silence.
@@rickjason215 i want too do that snorkeling ?. .
@@francus7227 Goddamn lol that's a crazy story, Hawaii sounds wild af. Weed break lol
Ocean Ramsey isn't swimming with Big Blue. It's a large great white that was gorging on a nearby whale carcass but not Big Blue. My source is Sharkbytes here on RUclips. He's a actual marine biologist that focuses on sharks.
He's got a good show. I always watch Kristian and Hal from Sharks Happen. They're awesome.
Sharks Happen! Awesome show
And she's also not called "Big Blue" She's named "Deep Blue"
That being said, I agree. You can go and look at the "Deep Blue" footage and see that the scars and markings are different than the one filmed in Hawaii. Most noticeably, the very distinctive black markings on the underside of Deep Blue.
Yes shark's happen HAL is cool
Oceans RAMSEY is LITERALLY the TIMOTHY TREADWEL of sharks
I watch a RUclips channel called Sharks Happen. I would bet this was either a Tiger or a Great White. Tigers can get very big, like 20' big. Tiger sharks often take a chunk or two and move on, often the victim passes due to blood loss. Big Great White attacks often leave only wet suits, scuba gear, clothing as evidence. I believe this was most likely a Great White.
It's terrible that poor man was suspected of foul play at the same time of loosing his wife. Bad deal all the way around. If the water has a salty taste... there are sharks
Love that channel.
Currently on vacation in Maui visiting family. This happened days before we got here on a beach near where we’re staying. Shark attacks are rare but there are reasons the locals say not to swim in murky water and at certain times of day. The locals believe it was a tiger shark but I don’t know if that’s been confirmed.
Are you in kehi or lahina
As someone who’s lived in Hawaii a decade, everyone knows Maui is where humans get eaten. Almost all
Fatality shark attacks happen on Maui.
@@brentmiller3951 Kihei
Comparing a great white attacking (and most likely, surprising) a snorkeling human with no protection whatsoever, to a tiger attacking a turtle (who clearly has evolved to maneuver itself with the shell facing the tiger in order to avoid being bitten) is not a good comparison at all
The World needs "extinct or alive" to come back.
I totally agree with your take. My expertise only extends to watching you and Sharks happen. The attack sound like a typical Great white deadly attack.
Gz on 200k boys!
Sea turtles will instinctively roll on their side to present a wider target for the shark to try and grab. I've had locals in Maui tell me they've seen tigers big enough to fit these sideways turtles into their jaws, and crush them in one bite. Forest could be right about the white shark, but don't count out tigers swallowing humans whole.
I live on Maui and in the same week that this happened there was also a report of a shark that attacked a deer that went into the ocean but I’m pretty sure they said it was a tiger shark.
Blue was feeding on a Humpback whale carcass, she was gourged from her meal. Ocean Ramsey knew she would be in no danger of being on the menu because it had days of a free meal.
Yes those main pics with Ocean are of Haole Girl. Haole (White Visitor) named by Wildlife Photographer Kim Jeffries back in 2019 while filming with I believe Andrew Grey. Those two filmed Haole and Big Blue. Also I believe there was a 3rd White almost as big…Haole was tagged around 18ft while Blue is around 20ft. Not saying Ocean didn’t swim with Blue but from what I saw it’s Haole Girl. Either way, I’m extremely jealous!!!
Saw a turtle attacked at a beach in Florida. Couldn't really see the shark, but the turtle was large. A bunch of people on the beach wanted to go out and save the turtle, but life guards kept them back. I was ok staying on the beach.
Life feeds on Life
Life is cruel, but not evil
@@morbidone88agreed, it’s not even cruel though. Us humans like associating traits with things that aren’t even alive lol. Nature only seems cruel because we don’t actively hunt and eat things like predators do yaknow? If crocodiles trapped food then killed it and cooked it over an open fire we wouldn’t even bat an eye
@@Raumes513 🤣 oh bro, if I saw a crocodile having a beer and cooking, I'm doing more than batting an eye!! Jk, but I agree mostly. It's our sapient nature that allows us to anthropomorphize animals. Seeing something being eaten alive is hard to see, but it's wrong to take food out of the mouth of a predator simply bc you Don't think it's fair..
@@morbidone88 haha well if crocs always did that it wouldn’t be as much of a shock 🤣🤣🤣 bad analogy but I’m glad you got my point hahaha. But yea I agree it’s not hard for me to watch because of grew up on the nature channel lol but I can see how it’s horrible if you’re not into that
We just recently had a pretty brutal great white attack here on Big Island.
The west facing side of Maui, also know as “oluwalu” is the main breeding ground for all tiger sharks. So they return every year to reproduce on the west side, could’ve been an aggressive tiger. If not, I’d totally agree about a great white attack.
Sounds like a bull shark. 12 feet would be pretty much the maximum length of a bull shark but they are not only tenacious, aggressive and persistent but they tend to drag large prey, such as people, to deeper water. That being said without a positive identification it could have been a number of sharks. Any one of the big three can kill a person with one powerful bite. Even at 12 foot. Hell it could have been an oceanic white tip.
No bull sharks have been documented in Hawaii
@@johngerg8071 That doesn't mean anything to me. Lots of things weren't documented until they were. My belief of what's possible is not dependent on what's documented. As in many fields for many subjects, dependency on what is documented has turned out to be fraudulent.
There are no bulk sharks in Hawaii. Born and raised here….
I love to watch videos from The Malibu Artist, he's given me, and the rest of the world I'm guessing, a complete different view of sharks, especially white sharks
I was in the water off Olowalu about six months back, 1/3 mile out, checking out a monk seal. There was a sail boat nearby and they were yelling at us “did you see that great white banging our boat?” I didn’t but spooky thinking one was only tens of feet away. Just months earlier two people were knocked off their outrigger by a great white, but they were unmolested. So they are definitely hanging around the Western part of Maui.
I was in Maui in December the water was super warm not cold at all.
I believe her name is Deep Blue and they found another off Hawaii almost as big they named Haolie Girl. She was also 19 to 20ft
That's not Deep Blue it's Haole girl . They are both huge sharks from 18' to 21' , but I believe Deep Blue is larger than Haole girl by about 1.5 to 2 feet .
The shark isn't "toying" with the turtle. The turtle is turning its back to the sharks mouth as it's only method of defense. It ends up biting the shark on the tail and it swims off.
Most likely a Tiger Shark.
The GWS swimming with Ocean Ramsay was full of Whale meat.
The turtle is doing a great job of blocking the Tiger Shark with its shell. At the end of the video the shark just gives up if it's the same video that I saw last week.
Really thoughtful insights. I was like its obvs a tiger, but that isnt the case at all
Ya after putting into perspective how they hunt it makes sense, she would have been on the water screaming getting picked apart by a tiger, but if she just disappear and there way blood then a white shark makes more sense
A Tiger shark attacked a swimmer/diver several weeks ago in the same area.The Tiger bite the man on his leg and rear end.The man was saved by two(2) paddle boarders.
I use to commercial dive for spear fish in Hawaii 30 years ago ive seen many tiger sharks some mellow some aggressive had a few close calls never had to harm or kill any of these aggressive tigers but there was this one time when a huge shark ate my fish off my spear and tried to bite me it moved so fast surprisingly being how huge it was after jabbing it with with my spear gun stock and punching its head as it darted by it made a quick U turn about 20-25 feet below me as i surfaced it charged straight up towards me with its mouth wide open by this time i had loaded my spear shaft in my gun but did not have my rubber bands pulled locked to fire. As it swam up like a bullet i jabbed my spear at its nose and eye keeping it from bitting me it moved and made a crazy turn by this time i had my gun loaded it charge me on more time hmmm but this time i had no choice but to shoot it. I spinned it right behind its gills :( i tried to swim it to shore but my 700lb mono line snap off the water turn black as the shark swam in a circle with my five foot shaft stuck in its side. The scariest thing was to hear its teeth bitting as it mouth opened and closed. Later on shore i realize that it was my first and only time ever encountered a great white. Recently a white was recorded in the same area. Sad for the lose of life. God bless.....
Jesus, that’s an awesome story man! How big would you say the white shark was?
@@SourPatchPuss well i didn't put a tape on it lol but about 16-18 ft maybe 20 and really wide ive rubbed up against a 14 ft tiger before it was way bigger and fast not like the videos of them swimming slow and mellow. I guess it had coffee and wanted a toasted treat too lol
@@Kalokala10 incredible encounter, combat with a large shark snds unimaginably terrifying.
I have heard a story of a tiger preying on shipwrecked tourists in Australia. Ate 2/3 ppl on way to an emerged reef where the sole survivor was able to stay above water and eventually be rescued.
Apparently the second guy put up a hell of a fight, elbows smashing and kicking the shark on the surface. Eventually was killed and picked upside down out of water like nothing by the shark.
Exsanguinated possibly from bites and might've drowned even being out of breath from the flurry and then pulled under.
Either way it sounds like when these things are amped it's not like the tame ones you see eating out of divers hands.
There's a few videos of bullsharks (which I think have to be closest relative of tigershark if you look closely) where the shark is circling slowly fins down and then it's like a light switch *boom* they commit *100%* .
@@jessebrown1400 sad part i did not get to harvest the fish and i lost my spear shaft. I wish it would have let me swim away but it was hungry and i didn't want to be dinner
:(
@@Kalokala10 you think it could've survived given the possibility the wound would puss out and then maybe the shaft would fall out?
I wonder how tough sharks are to spears, I've seen a picture of a tiger shark that took like 10 shafts to finally kill it, they seem tougher than hell.
Deep Blue is about 21 feet, but the White shark in the Ocean Ramsay video is Haoli Girl, which is about 19.5 feet. Also, she may not have been pregnant, as she had just been gorging herself on a nearby whale carcass, so she may have just had her stomach puffed out from consumed whale blubber.
Deep Blue is her name. She is an absolutely amazing specimen of a Great White shark!
Welp when u snorkel in a sharks home you can probably expect a shark to show up.
We can all agree it was either a tiger or GW. The likelihood of either is substantial, but one or the other 100%.
You fellas are awesome. Another hilariously entertaining podcast this one was! Keep up the good work guy's. Hope to see you on the next one Retep you're mostly the reason why i tune in. Retep your the man!!! Cheers fellas. Number one podcast and number one fan right here!
What’s hilarious?
@@Face_The_Void the entire pod cast this is just a clip
The turtle was turning the top part of it's shell, very successfully, towards the tiger sharks mouth. A big rush attack like you say wouldn't work. That's probably why it's not doing that. Not because it can't.
So. Currently watching the first season of extinct or alive, and it made me wonder, how close someone has been to getting bitten while recording. (Mitch almost stepped on the 100 pacer)
Insert the south park meme: And its gone!
Yup im done going out in the ocean like that
We do got some lurches out here for sure!
The tIger shark can reach 16ft but usually is under 14 ft , but how ever there are at least 7-9 species of shark usually near Maui there is a shark called the Galapagos shark which is hunted by humans because we believe they are aggressive. Found this on google ;
Image result for galapagos shark hawaii
Adult Galapagos sharks are very inquisitive, often showing aggression towards fishermen who try to scare them away. Once they become excited, they are difficult to deter, and when they go into a frenzy they may attack anything floating on the surface of the water
It’s biology name is Carcharhinus galapagensis
I totally was gonna say tiger shark
That sea turtle probably lived through that encounter from what I understand. They defend themselves by flipping sideways so the shark can't get it's tiny weird mouth around it? Did I see that on your channel or one of the 10 other shark/reptile related channels I follow? Lol
I would have said almost the same thing. Great take on this.
Getting 50 meters away from your spouse probably not smart. But it's hard to stay together, people always wanna do their own thing
Deep Blue had just been feeding on a whale carcass, that's why it was full and didn't care. And it's not 21 feet long.
There was several large sharks feeding on that whale carcass. But I don't think it was deep blue
I'm just trying to figure out what Forest was chugging?
The tiger sharks are more aggressive in hawaii because they’re tired of tourists ruining their reefs and ecosystems.
I don’t know if she’s pregnant. She was that big in the video when they first found her in Mexico.
I'm from maui and live in kihei. There's alot of sharks 🦈
Big Blue was the biggest Great white shark at Hawaii , but she wasn't the only big female Great white filmed . I saw a documentary on it ,i think on Discovery channel ,shark week 👍✌
Ocean Ramsey needs to stop touching sharks. Wildlife isn't to be played with. Observe without physical contact.
I was there :( really really sad, I saw the tiger shark, had too be atleast 13 feet
You could tell it was a tiger?
Maybe don't go swimming.. in deep water in Hawaii? I mean, it's Hawaii? That's like the rest stop of shark Interstate 5.
"Straight away authorities are going to assume it's a tiger shark"
No, authorities are going to assume it's the spouse. And they did.
"For some reason the tigers in Hawaii defend the sea more aggressive than the Caribbean and..."
I can relate. I just "defended" a double cheese burger out of my grill for lunch.
"Let me show you how stories are sold. Kyle, pull up this huge scary looking pregnant great white that has a first name. That one's definitely it".
In those videos, the Great White was gorging on a dead whale. No way Ocean chick was swimming with a hungry Great White.
How do you compare an attack on a turtle to humans? Literally a turtle has a substantial more chance of surviving a bear attack, wolf attack, shark, etc than a fleshly human lol. Silly stuff.
Lol dude should have had a turtle shell when he was eaten in Sydney harbor last year
@@BanginSevenGrams Or the woman off of Miami beach 13 years ago
@@BeansMcGriddle Never heard of that, the one in Sydney was recorded somewhat, so it was highly publicized.
i Live in Hawaii and a GW track here would be unprecedented
Occams Razor would dispel the GW attack given the rarity and the high number of tiger attacks that happen hwre
Is WildTimesWilly still working with you?
Patreon exclusive but I’m watching it right now? 🤷🏻♂️
Really wish Ocean would stop touching animals.
How could this happen? Experts have said that sharks only take investigative bites and would never eat humans. So why do these sharks eat the whole body of the humans since they don’t like how we taste?
Cause the experts don’t know anything about sharks
@@jameslipsey if sharks truly liked us as food then there would be no one swimming in the water at beaches because sharks would be hunting us. But that’s just not the case. Sharks swim around humans every day and don’t bite. Occasionally one of the big sharks take someone’s life. That’s the risk. It’s not like going into a river with crocs. They will kill you 95% of the time. Sharks won’t. So something is not adding up with your comment. This is my opinion and I understand how you have your opinion too. I personally spearfish and participate in ocean activities all the time as I live in Florida. If I see a big shark. I get out. But I’ve never been surprise attacked…. Yet! 😂
@@derrick2251 actually i think there are certain sharks with anger issues that don’t mind eating anything they can including people
Cause the so called experts are trying to give Great whites a good image.
It's all bullshit.
@@derrick2251 it's simple. If there not hungry your ok
I'm sure it was a Tiger. And I am sure the husband had nothing to do with the death as rumored. We snorkel all the time in Hawaii and it's very easy to get separated while snorkeling because there's so much to see. It's luck of the draw.
Possibly a White shark which do on occasion appear in the waters there, or a large Tiger! The one with Ramsey I believe she was swimming with a White shark that had been feeding on a whale caucus and was insanely full, that's why they all got in the water with it, but I could be wrong! That's not deep blue either!
If there is no video with blood in the water.... it's not worth my time.
The shark ocean ramsay was swimming with wasn't deep blue. It's another large female great white
Whites a definite possibility but also this is prime tiger season in the islands. And if you go through attack records on humans they do tend to cause massive injuries leading to quick deaths and total consumption similar to GW attacks, especially on divers.
A cool aside, new research has shown tigers in Hawaii and the indo-pacific are genetically distinct from Atlantic populations and from experience catching them the Island-Indo-Pac fish behave entirely different on line compared to Atlantic Ocean specimens. Even with fish of compared length, weight and sex in similar water temps etc the Atlantic fish are much more likely to behave more sluggish, lazy, swim to shore more and make fewer and much shorter runs when caught. Meanwhile Pacific tigers tend to behave like a freight train when hooked making long runs and putting up impressive fights on par with large great hammerhead. This difference in fight behavior is pretty well known in the Australian, Carolina, Florida, Hawaii and South African land fishing community.
Are you trying to tell me that sharks sometimes attack humans in the ocean? I had no idea.
Maui has the most tiger sharks close to the coast because the ocean bottom contours favor their eating habits. Or so they say.
Deep blue has been pregnant for 5 years now, at least.
WTF? White sharks visit Hawaii in December and January? How odd. Better deals can be had in the off season.
Where is Retep?
A white shark of that size would not bother with a person man this is dangerous language
IT WAS A TIGER SHARK
Human beings swimming with apex predators of the sea like some esoteric squirrel dancing with a tiger, the shark is not extending some-evolution defying spirit of oneness, it’s looking for the meatiest part of your body and wondering if you’re one snack too many given the baby dolphin it just ate
If that were truly the case then people would be dropping like flies every day to sharks and no one would go in the water or beaches. Sharks aren’t human killing machines. Though I will say I don’t like going into the water without my speargun or lobster net just in case a shark gets a little too close. Sharks aren’t like the Australian crocodiles. Though I do agree if a big shark is hungry, get out. I personally get out even if I see a threading shark like a bull tiger or white. I’ve never seen a tiger or white thanfuklly. But there are people who have no problem Spearfishing even when sharks are present. That is something I don’t do. Floridian here.
Hey guys, not sure how new both of you are to using the internet yet, but labeling half of your RUclips videos as “Patreon Exclusives” does not make any sense at all
Shark Happens 🦈
Deep blue.
Afraid of a Shark attack but not the JAB - come on
I track white sharks for fun, and not pointing any fingers… but a 12ft white shark named Tough Guy was last pinged off the coast of hawaii on Christmas Day. They are there.
Know it all no nothings, searching for clicks.
That white shark was in much, much deeper water than where the snorkeling was occurring on Maui.
All great white sightings have been very far out at sea and never near shore.
Finally, a turtle has a hard shell, not soft flesh…I’ve seen white shark attacks within meters…my friends have been both bitten and killed by both whites and tigers.
A tiger most certainly could have killed a snorkeler and taken the body away to where it could not have been recovered.
Just search the story about a tourist surfer, who drowned at Himalayas and body was spotted the next day by helicopters…was being circled by tigers and then vanished minutes later.
First of all, if you’re going to talk about one of the biggest sharks of all times, no other name, it’s deep blue sea has been found in Hawaii, but she hasn’t been seen in over five years the other, or a great white shark that resides in Hawaii is hula girl who always gets confused with deep blue. At least learn the names if you wanna talk about it.
Maybe the rare Hawaiian orca?
About as likely as a wolf.
I’m afraid to swim with a fucking catfish
The way tigers and white's attack aren't that different the reson the tiger in the video is having a hard time (not toying) with the turtle is because the turtle knows to keep its back to the shark so it carnt take a bite out of it
Although your not likely to be attacked especially in a healthy ecosystem you have to accept the risk anytime you enter an apex predators domain that you could potentially be on the menu or receive a investigatory bite that could be fatal. On another note and although it hasn’t been documented yet we can assume the white sharks mating process is similar to that of other large sharks in which case can you imagine the cahones you’d need to as a male white shark to try to mount a huge female like deep blue who could have 6 feet or more on you and the added weight it brings? That’s gotta be a bold shark
Deep blue
Ill take brown bear in my area than sharks. Glad the ocean is too cold for the big dangerous sharks around here.
It’s a tiger shark in Maui and they finish people it not a great white wrong island bro🤙🏽
White sharks are around Maui bro! They roam!
Had to be a tiger shark. I lived on Oahu for 9 years but there really were not very many shark attacks there. I thought that when the great white sharks are in Hawaii they are not aggressive.
"Great whites aren't aggressive". Okay, that's why the man in Sydney Harbor was eaten alive by one? lol
@@BanginSevenGrams I heard that in a documentary. I now live in Northern California and you won’t catch me swimming in the ocean here. I don’t think there has ever been a reported great white attack in Hawaii.
@@RosieandFriends1 It's simple, they don't target us, but they obviously will take the opportunity if it presents itself.
Guarantee it was a white shark
@@ryanbolander6117 Imagine being hit from below, grabbed by razers, and then ragdolled to shreds... underwater...I'd rather burn alive lol
Common sense folks, common sense...
Not a scrap of the body left . ¿ Must be mistaken identity? Thats such bs
Tigers are most dangerous! Get up to 20 feet! It's such a tragedy, 100 million sharks killed by humans every year!
Tiger....
Whale migrate through Hawaii around Christmas time, great whites follow
probably a bullshark