Darth Bane: The Sith Who Understood the Force Better Than ANY JEDI!

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  • @ryandunham1047
    @ryandunham1047 Год назад +24

    Bane believed that the Dark Side was like venom: The more it's spread out, the weaker it is, and conversely, the less people using it, the more potent it is.

    • @StarWarsFanatic
      @StarWarsFanatic  Год назад +6

      Exactly

    • @ryandunham1047
      @ryandunham1047 Год назад +1

      @@StarWarsFanatic I learned that from Geetsly’s channel, but it makes sense. :)

    • @kimperkins1758
      @kimperkins1758 16 дней назад

      The same is probably true for the light side of the force as well which would explain why the Jedi were unable to sense order 66 and how the few that did it survive order 66 were so powerful after case in point Luke Skywalker and Leia organa being able to sense the future

    • @temmy9
      @temmy9 3 дня назад

      ​@kimperkins1758 the light side is like fire. It's grows when you share it

  • @sonum4298
    @sonum4298 Год назад +22

    Very good work! I was always fascinated with Darth Bane. I mean the writing and storytelling of those books are on such a high level. Drew Karpyshyn is the man. Thanks for inspiring me for making me wanna read more Star Wars books

    • @topdog5252
      @topdog5252 Год назад +1

      I’ve read those books many times. They are sick!!!

    • @131313chemistry
      @131313chemistry 8 месяцев назад +5

      They would make a perfect trilogy - sadly disney would ruin it though, :(

  • @gr8tbigtreehugger
    @gr8tbigtreehugger Год назад +10

    Many thanks for this insightful and thoughtful video! Anakin's powers increased as his costume darkened, portends of his transformation to Vader.

  • @michaelnewby3898
    @michaelnewby3898 Год назад +26

    They're 2 sides of the same coin. To keep the coin on its edge is the goal. I can't remember the actual comic, but if the balance between the light and dark wasn't kept, it caused a force storm that disrupted the planet. Where either a light or dark force user had to leave the planet or die.

    • @iMacmatician
      @iMacmatician 5 месяцев назад

      Dawn of the Jedi?

    • @Bruticus-wayne
      @Bruticus-wayne 4 месяца назад +2

      I heard it's like a magnetic field, the positive lightside, brings life when facing metal (life). The negative darkside, brings death when facing metal (life). The orientation of the magnet, shows the ballance of the individual.

  • @Billymfp
    @Billymfp Год назад +4

    I was sad when this video ended. I wanted to keep listening to my buddy chat about Star Wars. I’m Billy. Nice to meet you lol. Have a good day.

    • @StarWarsFanatic
      @StarWarsFanatic  Год назад +2

      Hi Billy! Thank you! Nice to meet you too. I was sad to stop talking about it.

  • @rjphilla
    @rjphilla Год назад +1

    Hey Fanatic! I'm so happy for your channel and the views your fantastic videos are getting. I don't agree with all your takes, but love the positivity and acceptance.
    Let's keep Star Wars for everyone. May the Force be with you.

  • @IMLiteralInsanity
    @IMLiteralInsanity 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hey Gerald!!! Great video! Good thumbnail hooked me in and you killed it in this video!

  • @Dragonangel426
    @Dragonangel426 Год назад +3

    🎵The force is the force of course of course. And no one can talk to the force of course.
    That is, of course, unless the force is the famous Mr. Ben 🎵
    Hello there :)

  • @yasisoufi
    @yasisoufi Год назад +2

    The force is strong and it’s getting to 30k ! 💪🏼

  • @Braedy_Dunn
    @Braedy_Dunn 3 месяца назад

    I like how much more medieval Darth Bane looks it suits him in his part of the timeline

  • @box510motorcycles3
    @box510motorcycles3 Год назад +9

    I seem to remember Kanan explaining "other" force users and some of these thoughts to Ezra in an episode when they found and helped some of Zeb's people.

  • @NomadX7
    @NomadX7 Год назад +1

    Great video. Thanks for all the details! 😅

  • @ianhenry1031
    @ianhenry1031 Год назад +3

    Hi Gerald I think the force is on both sides dark and light, and probably the sith were better off with keeping there numbers small and able to increase their power, thank you Star Wars Fanatic

  • @JessicaWilliams21880
    @JessicaWilliams21880 Год назад +1

    however there is an another reason why Darth Bane created the rule of two and it was inspired from Darth Revan also during Darth Bane's time there was a group called brotherhood of darkness and it was weak according to Darth Bane before he create the rule of two "As the only surviving Sith, Bane recognized that Sith infighting had weakened them to the point that the Jedi could destroy them."

  • @saiyanwarrior5056
    @saiyanwarrior5056 10 месяцев назад +2

    I like what you've said all here, I do have a minor disagreement with how the force is from how you have proposed it. The force is 2 sides of the same coin, but there is a barrier between both sides. I think the dark and light side function differently in the ideas that the light side is a battery that is constantly being charged and siphoned at the same time and keeps growing as more people become jedi. However, the light side is an infinitely sinking well that is constantly being drank from.

    • @gan5045
      @gan5045 5 месяцев назад

      The light feeds off love and life and the dark death and suffering. The force is measured by the current output available at that moment. Think of the light as solar power and the dark oil. You can use both, but the resource and it's abundance is different.

  • @Kalepy
    @Kalepy 4 месяца назад +1

    Sorry to dissagree with you but the living force feeds into the cosmic force. Living creatures create the Living Force and when they die it powers the Cosmic Force. Therefore the Cosmic Force (which is what most of the Jedi use) is infinite because as people die it becomes more powerful and grows. Qui Gon Jin would tell Obi-Wan to be mindful of the Living Force because it isn't something young Jedi are used to. After all, you can't use it like the Cosmic Force (AKA push things around) the living force is like an energy field that you can use to feel all around you(AKA sensing danger or anger) like when Yoda knew Anakin was in pain during Attack of the Clones. The Jedi's ability to sense things around them (Living Force) is what was being diminished because Palpatine was clouding them with the dark side, he says so in Clone Wars when he and the other Jedi are banishing Ahsoka. Ahsoka tells them her senses are clouded and Yoda says that many things were being clouded by the dark side at that time (S5 Ep20 4min 11 sec).
    In conclusion the Living Force is something that can be detected and the Cosmic Force is infinite as long as things keep dying. And considering how many things have died throughout the history of Star Wars it might as well be infinite.
    And just for fun, Midiclorians don't determine your strength with the force just your natural aptitude with it (you talent, which without practice means nothing). Which explains why obiwan beat Anakin even though his M count was so much lower in comparison.

    • @illmaticpapii
      @illmaticpapii 20 дней назад

      @@Kalepy Yea i agree with your take that its infinite, seems like an oversimplification that its exhaustible or weak if too many people use it because you want to compare it to quantifiable resources as we know it.

  • @Zedekk2004
    @Zedekk2004 Год назад +1

    I never considered this concept of the Force is a pie and more people = less pie for everyone type of idea. I know that's not what you said but that is the idea that helped me follow this train of thought easiest. Thank you.

    • @StarWarsFanatic
      @StarWarsFanatic  Год назад +2

      That’s a great way to put it! Much better than my water analogy.

    • @shrapnelbmg6267
      @shrapnelbmg6267 3 месяца назад +1

      The pie analogy doesn't really work for the Force in general tho. Even Bane acknowledges that the nature of the darkside is different than the light. The Jedi are more powerful sharing the power and embracing unity and harmony, while the Sith are more powerful when the full power of the darkside is funneled thru one being, and not many beings competing for that power.
      The more Jedi, the more powerful they are.
      The more Sith, the less powerful they will become, not because the darkside is actually a fixed pie but more because infighting will inevitably result, with less powerful sith teaming up to bring down the most powerful, and then fighting amongst themselves, further diluting the power of the Sith as a whole.

    • @Zedekk2004
      @Zedekk2004 3 месяца назад

      @@shrapnelbmg6267 based off of what you said, now I'm thinking about My Hero Academia and the "All for One" quirk (would be darkside) and "One for All" quirk (would be light side). Still not a very good analogy, but it does help me follow the train of thought.
      Since darkside users use the force for self-serving reasons too many sith draw on the same pool of darkside Force essence and are not as powerful as the lightside. It begs the question which is more powerful: One solitary Jedi, or one solitary Sith (if all things being equal) or would it be a stalemate? Im leaning toward a stalemate because "balance" is still a quintesential part of the Force. But that is another topic altogether.

    • @shrapnelbmg6267
      @shrapnelbmg6267 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Zedekk2004 it's usually gonna boil down to the individual's power and training and then effected by other traits such as arrogance which can cause a slip up allowing a less skilled opponent to win lol
      But It's always gonna just depend on the writer's decision ultimately.
      But all things equal, the most powerful Sith vs the most powerful Jedi did result in a battle that was a stalemate.
      Yoda couldn't defeat Sidious and knew it was only a matter of time before reinforcements tipped the scale in the Sith's favor.
      The Sith defeated the Jedi by changing the parameters of the conflict. They didn't need to be able to beat every Jedi one on one

    • @Zedekk2004
      @Zedekk2004 3 месяца назад +1

      @@shrapnelbmg6267 Good point.

  • @lukei.1227
    @lukei.1227 9 месяцев назад +1

    The dark side of the force is a perversion of the force.
    Anakin and Luke were so powerful because both followed the will of the force. For instance, why do you think Anakin was cut down and had so much of his potential taken when he became darth vader? Luke and Anakin defeated the emperor by following the will of the force.
    Darth Bane seems right about the diminishing returns of an entire order of sith perverting the force.

  • @gabrielcole65
    @gabrielcole65 8 месяцев назад +7

    Darth Bane did not create the "Rule of Two", he discovered it from Darth Revans' holocron as is mentioned in Chapter 23 of Star Wars Darth Bane Path of Destruction on page 284.

  • @makilissalas
    @makilissalas 3 месяца назад

    Great explanation and video.

  • @Tokmurok
    @Tokmurok Год назад +1

    Explains why the old republic era lasted thousands of years because both sides thought numbers mattered most until darth bane.

  • @_casg
    @_casg 3 месяца назад

    i am starting to look at Acolyte differently now.. when i hear people talk about lore, there's witches and sith magic... i guess i see the direction it took. I was blinded by my own bias...
    do you have a video kind of explaining the lore of the new series of the acolyte? like now about its strange plot... but about the lore behind it... ?

  • @blackbilly1965
    @blackbilly1965 Год назад +1

    100% agree Gerald

  • @andrewcadden7615
    @andrewcadden7615 7 месяцев назад

    Nice shout out to Clarkson’a Farm there!

  • @asmkalrizion7078
    @asmkalrizion7078 Год назад

    It could be that the dark side itself is actually natural, and that the lightside is not actually a source of energy, but rather is a philosophy of self control.
    Bendu also fits into this by balancing between self control and "Corruptive" power.
    This would imply that just the Dark side is a source of energy/power while the light side is not tapping into a source of power, but rather uses the spare energy around them.
    Best metaphor could be that the Dark Side is nuclear energy while the Light Side is wind/solar power.

  • @Lou-T-Fisk
    @Lou-T-Fisk 9 месяцев назад

    I want a Darth Bane series I think it could be an amazing story to tell on the big screen the Darth Bane is my favourite book trilogy

    • @joemart6887
      @joemart6887 17 дней назад

      They should definitely make a movie from the perspective of the dark side of the force. We've already seen so many light side users, show us more of the dark!

  • @jeromemartinez5603
    @jeromemartinez5603 Год назад

    Not only Bane, but Plegius. Used it to create Anakin from the well spring of the Force, Yoda communes with the Force priestess demonstrated a cycle of the Force, in many ways: It is how it's used

    • @shrapnelbmg6267
      @shrapnelbmg6267 3 месяца назад

      Plaguis didn't create Anakin, but he did believe that the Force itself created Anakin as a sort of blowback response to him exerting his will upon it thru his successful experimentation bringing a captured Sith pretender back to life after killing him several times.

  • @knightspearhead5718
    @knightspearhead5718 Год назад +1

    A fun question i think, "Why does Anakin use force powers more then most other jedi"
    Loved the music for this one.

    • @StarWarsFanatic
      @StarWarsFanatic  Год назад +1

      That’s a great question and kind of goes hand in hand with this. And I like it more than the midichlorians idea. And thank you

  • @Him042
    @Him042 Год назад

    Ascension.. 5th density protocol, only the light will survive 5th density consciousness.

  • @ethanjohnson6261
    @ethanjohnson6261 8 месяцев назад

    “If they could use the force it would be true.”
    “If they there were all dead it would be stronger.”
    “If unicorns were in star wars, the dark side would lose. they would lose….”
    Because maybe maybe maybe
    Might be true
    Maybe
    We know this.😊

  • @jackgrove4621
    @jackgrove4621 5 месяцев назад

    the medochlorians may be what lets us access the force and not the force itself

  • @migueldesa0031
    @migueldesa0031 Год назад

    Gérald ? It means I won't understand this video? 0:40

  • @avicohen517
    @avicohen517 4 месяца назад

    Did Darth Bane create the rule of 2 or did he just bring it back or to life? Didn’t he learn about it from Revan?

  • @tasatort9778
    @tasatort9778 Год назад +4

    Darth Bane was only partially right. Bane theorized that the Dark and Light sides were separate and that by concentrating "Dark Side" power in only two beings, those two beings would have more power to draw on; in reality the raw power of an individual is determined by their midichlorin count. He knew that one of the downfalls of the early sith was taking more than one apprentice at a time (the early sith would take several force sensitives and train them until they saw which one was most powerful and then discard the rest), the apprentices would "gang up" on the master and kill him/her then declare themselves Sith Lords, thus weakening the sith overall by having a group of lesser skilled individuals joining the ranks. He also realized that having a group of Sith Lords would only have each one competing with the others for dominance.
    So with the Rule of Two:
    -He eliminated having a group of apprentices to challenge the master en masse.
    -Only being able to choose a single apprentice would force the master to pick someone with great force sensitivity.
    -Would allow the master to concentrate all their knowledge into one individual, and to hone that individual's skills to their peak (which is why a Sith apprentice can outclass a Jedi Knight and often a Jedi Master, the Sith was given more in depth and rigorous training).
    -Having only two would ensure they would work together instead of against each other in attempts to assert dominance.
    -By changing their tactics and moving "underground", working from the shadows, quietly building alliances: they would be able to erode the Jedi power base, and subvert the Republic from within. This change of tactics caught the Jedi by surprise, they were totally unprepared as they were expecting the same old frontal assault that the Sith had used for centuries.

    • @mikemoss6045
      @mikemoss6045 10 месяцев назад

      Except in the end it was a sith lord, a sith master, many apprentices, and the inquisitorious. That's more than two. The rule was flawed from the beginning for way to many reasons, and is why the jedi order was able to be rebuilt unchecked.

  • @darthtator3549
    @darthtator3549 Год назад

    The force isnt much explained for outside of the galaxy. So take into consideration the unknown regions and even outside galaxies so

  • @1977rodi
    @1977rodi Год назад

    Brilliant theory

  • @jamonsommer6510
    @jamonsommer6510 Год назад

    I don’t know if The Force is naturally light or dark. I think maybe sides of the Force exist because of the alignments of sentient beings that are attuned to it. It’s possible that The Force itself IS infinite. Perhaps an extradimensional energy field of sorts. I think maybe it breaks down into different kinds of energy when being utilized by force sensitive people. Perhaps it’s the midi chlorians that are really the issue here. It’s the Force sensitivity that allows one to more efficiently use the Force. So limiting the amount of people using the WiFi so to speak, is what allows for better reception. For those seeking power as a means to dominate, it makes sense that one would want to strengthen their force abilities. To play devil’s advocate, I do think that the prequels were meant to show that the Jedi had become stagnant and hypocritical to an extent. That may be because they had been placed in a position of compliance with the Republic for so long, while the Sith didn’t have a problem adapting. To Darth Bane, selfishness was a virtue because power like that of the Force mandated the rule of the strong. So the Rule of Two seems to be the logical conclusion of the proverbial rule of the jungle. Maybe there’s some truth to that in more ways than one. The Jedi may value peace as a virtue, but as you pointed out, even THEY paradoxically seek to heighten their skills to enforce it. Like I think George Lucas would attest to, any victory for the sake of victory becomes stale. I would argue that one can only really BE at peace when they acknowledge that struggle exists (otherwise they’re a ticking time bomb). The Sith view strikes me as pragmatic in a Machiavellian way. The Force, be it light or dark, is useful in so far as it furthers the infrastructure of society through the acquisition of power. They just usually lean more towards the dark because the Republic’s definition of “Good” doesn’t benefit everyone. Sure the Sith we encounter are obviously corrupt, but there’s argument to be made that the Republic was as well. When it comes to a cohesive plan to unite the galaxy under one banner, Bane was (at the very least) successful.😁

  • @colinwoonsue
    @colinwoonsue Год назад

    Great commentaries

    • @StarWarsFanatic
      @StarWarsFanatic  Год назад +1

      Thank you!

    • @colinwoonsue
      @colinwoonsue Год назад

      @@StarWarsFanatic Your stories about Star Wars lore are inspiring.

    • @StarWarsFanatic
      @StarWarsFanatic  Год назад +1

      @@colinwoonsue I appreciate that. I want to do more of it and mix some fan stories in with them, like the last video.

    • @colinwoonsue
      @colinwoonsue Год назад

      @@StarWarsFanatic I’m a fan of it. Totally

    • @StarWarsFanatic
      @StarWarsFanatic  Год назад

      @@colinwoonsue thank you! I want to do more.

  • @FerroEquus-262
    @FerroEquus-262 3 месяца назад

    Dark Side Degradation
    Light Side Atrophy
    😉

  • @dach829
    @dach829 4 месяца назад

    sith and jedi are just two different churches of the force.

  • @COACHWARBLE
    @COACHWARBLE Год назад +2

    Was Luke so strong because there were so few light side users at that time?

    • @StarWarsFanatic
      @StarWarsFanatic  Год назад +1

      That’s my thought at least.

    • @tasatort9778
      @tasatort9778 Год назад

      Luke was so powerful for the same reason that Anakin was, their midichlorin count; the higher the midichlorin count, the more powerful the individual.

  • @shaunhaas4784
    @shaunhaas4784 Год назад +1

    The force is infinite the Jedi and sith use the living force which feeds into the cosmic force

  • @GGrey1975
    @GGrey1975 Год назад

    YT-013, Affirmation Code; 17
    The Force is an energy that is shared by all Living things, that statement is regauged as true - though all forms of energy have frequencies & polarity charges to.
    As the frequency & power of Ionic charges can affect Humen's emotions/mood, though Human's can do so in reverse. Case of was a side issues in studying Quark counts with the atom smasher for the Univ. of NM - baseline was with the machine without any human observers while the test was being ran.
    With observers present that believed the test results would be the same, they were within the margin of error for the study with the mechanical counter.
    Ones that were excited, wanted to help & glad to be there - the count was higher than, sometimes within & also outside the margin of error. On the opposite end with undergraduates that believed it a waste of time - a decreased count that sometimes dipped outside the error margin.

  • @criadordecurio4659
    @criadordecurio4659 Год назад

    I wonder where Drew came with the story of Darth Bane. I know the rule of 2 comes from George Lucas but not Darth Bane himself and his story. When Drew wrote Darth Bane trilogy Do you think something or someone inspired him?

  • @atklm1
    @atklm1 Месяц назад

    Infinity is not the same as inexhaustible. My water tap is inexhaustible source of water. Infinite force would result in infinite energy, which would result in infinite mass and simply would turn universe into black hole, and when that happens, the entire universe would be in black hole, where time and space switch places, and by all accounts, would create a white hole singularity, and therefore, another Big bang? 🤔

  • @michaelwestmoreland2530
    @michaelwestmoreland2530 Год назад

    Are we dead-ass saying the Sith view of the Force is as stewardship regarding a finite resource? And Jedi are clearcurtin?

  • @biggsdarklighter0473
    @biggsdarklighter0473 Год назад

    I'd love for the force to just be a tool, and concepts of morality just not applying to it.

  • @bdarkstar9136
    @bdarkstar9136 Год назад

    the force is infinite but the midichlorians are not. the force is energy and the midichlorians are life forms used to access the force. vader new this better than baine and is why he told all the admirals their puny death star was insignificant compared to the power of the force ;)

  • @trumenfreight6055
    @trumenfreight6055 9 месяцев назад

    I dont think there is any sith lord that shares your views of the force. According to Darth Revan and Darth Bane it is about the purity of the darksider not the quantity. The rule of two cut off all hope of teaming up other sith to kill one's superiors. Under Bane's rule you must find strength only in the darkside. That made you stronger.

  • @WarriorGirl_113
    @WarriorGirl_113 Год назад

    Two sides of the same coin. Think about this.. cartoons years ago, they showed an angel on one shoulder and a demon on other. Walt Disney was a member of the Freemasons. It's all about symbolism! Even the Holy book of the Roman's aka the bible, the Lord of the Rings, The Song of Ice & Fire.. all symbolism.

    • @StarWarsFanatic
      @StarWarsFanatic  Год назад

      Everything is symbolism in any form of art. But at the same time, Disney didn’t begin Star Wars.

  • @Good_Gunslinger
    @Good_Gunslinger Год назад

    Life is infinit because if we end life on earth there would still be life in other galaxy's and stars even if something can not think if the thing is made out of cells there is life and most certainly there is life on ever expanding universe except earth

    • @StarWarsFanatic
      @StarWarsFanatic  Год назад

      I only mentioned life on Earth because it’s all we know for certain. I’m definitely not saying there isn’t life on other planets/galaxies. It’s a possibility.

  • @LORDVADER357
    @LORDVADER357 Месяц назад

    Two sides of the same coin. Plus and minus at battery.

  • @GlobalCitizen369
    @GlobalCitizen369 Год назад

    ❤🔥🔥🔥

  • @BlitzinMackGaming
    @BlitzinMackGaming 3 месяца назад

    This Theory doesn't make any sense. If the force is weakened then it should be weakened evenly throughout every force wieder. It shouldn't be much weaker for the Jedi than it is for the Sith if there's a finite amount there's a finite amount it's not going to be more finite for the Jedi and less finite for the Sith.

    • @StarWarsFanatic
      @StarWarsFanatic  3 месяца назад

      Yet in the prequels Yoda admits that their ability to use the force is clouded by the dark side.

  • @Zydrin
    @Zydrin 5 месяцев назад

    95% of this video was you mansplaining the force lmao.

  • @joemart6887
    @joemart6887 17 дней назад

    But now the force is female and this is legacy star wars :(

  • @perun814
    @perun814 Год назад

    abd the jedi use their compation to look down on others ...pathetic creatures.
    sith is a treath to their power since sith is force sensitive.
    both sith and jedi also dont like being looked down upon..