Doctor Who: Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks - REVIEW - Dalekcember
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- The Cult of Skaro want to make a brand new start of it in old New York in this Series 3 two-part story 'Daleks in Manhattan' and 'Evolution of the Daleks' If they can make it there, they'll make it anywhere.
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I love this two-parter from series 3. You're right, there are moments that feel a bit off, but the good moments really hold up.
I bet you Dalek Caan owed Jast and Thay money, and that's why he let them die.
Also, I feel the biggest improvement this episode could have benefited from is Dalek Thay protesting the death of Sec as an accident.
MrTARDISreviews Still one of the best Dalek lines ever uttered.
10:28 The way Nick Briggs says "The final experiment is greater by far" is the closest we've come to hearing a Dalek sing a waltz!
What's fascinating is that, watching this in 2023, with a new depression and recession rising, this strikes home way more than it could have in 2019.
Yes! This is something good writing like this teaches us. History is cyclical.
Its wild and awesome with its social commentary. Espsecially with part two when the daleks have to acknowlge the authority of the hybrid
I loved these episodes because it gave the daleks some individual personality, which I think is something they've been missing. It's fine when Davros is involved because there's someone to bounce off of, but normally daleks are just interchangeable and throwaway. The Cult would have been great as a more recurring characters building up to this episode.
Ironically, this story was 40 years after The Evil Of The Daleks.
Imagine the sound of absolute triggered anger Davros would have if he heard Sec say that he was wrong
Crimson Dynamo I imagine his reaction would be the same as his reaction to hearing the movellens beat them in resurrection of the Daleks
B H [angry straw sucking noises]
EXACTLY! Another reason for me to be mad that 1. Sec died and 2. The Doctor never bothered to mention him again, even during conversations where it was extremely relevant to which includes when Davros asked how many more people died for him. Dude didn’t even get a shot in the montage!
N3RDYG0GGLES poor Sec, it’s like the concept of the Cult of Skaro was briefly thought than just immediately dumped. Which is a shame because a character like Sec can show that there can be a lot of dimension to the Daleks.
@@N3RDYG0GGLES Sec deserved to become a companion in my opinion.
I remember reading RTD saying he gave Raynor a specific "shopping list" (as he is wont to do) : 1930s, sewers, the empire state building, pigmen and oh yes! Daleks!
Reading that made me appreciate just what Raynor did to tie these things together.
Stuff like that is what makes me sympathise with Pip & Jane Baker's writing, to an extent anyway
@@Gamer208010 It makes me think of the catharsis of spurious morality
I love that Daleks have been toying with humanoid hybrids for years, be it doing whatever they did to Oswin Oswald, the weird hybrid in the glass casing from the 6th Doctor episode with the DJ, the humans with random eyestalks popping out of their heads, and of course Mr. Dicktenticles here.
I suppose we can put Andrew Garfield up there with Carey Mulligan and Karen Gillan in the category of “Doctor Who actors who became way more famous after they did the show”
Other way around, he was the first to go up there before those two.
When I first saw Daleks in Manhattan and Evolution of the Daleks when I was little, I loved it by sheer virtue of it being a Dalek story. As a teenager who thought he could be analytical, I insisted it was rubbish. These days, I can see a lot of good in it, and while it's by no means a classic, I feel it ranks alongside the likes of Resurrection of the Daleks, Revelation of the Daleks, and Victory of the Daleks as a decent Dalek story with a lot of fun and memorable moments, but there's just enough negatives to hold it back from being one of my all-time favorites.
I absolutely LOVE your honest but positive review of this story! It’s actually my favourite. Not kidding, I loved it since I was a kid and Dalek Sec is ultimately my favourite character, which is why I’ll be forever salty that he was killed and even saltier that he wasn’t later acknowledged in season 4’s montage of people who died for the Doctor.
You had Captain Panaka in there and no prequel memes. For shame.
Also, I think you meant to say Daleks instead of humans at 1:43
Wow, how have I never noticed that? Maybe because I rarely rewatch Phantom Menace.
Remembering that Daleks used to be humanoid creatures really changes this story. They’re essentially trying to get back to their previous forms and in a way become pure again it’s just 3/4 of them cant see that
I actually loved this story arc since it tried to put the villians in a desperate situation to the point that they would try new creative methods to survive.
Its really sad that Dalek Sec got the short end of the stick since he began to become more symphathetic and was able to see the problems with the Dalek mindset. If only they had let him survive, he could've become a potential companion for the Doctor, who he considered his equal.
I love how series 3 has moments where the Doctor sounds a bit like John Smith even outside of Human Nature/Family of Blood. You can really tell that David Tennant was doing both accents at the same time and it's interesting hearing it bleed through into the other episodes. You can hear it a little at 2:24
Apparently the original title was Heresy of the Daleks (I don't know for which part), and I wish they'd stuck with that title
Next Time: Not only The last Dalek stories in the Russel T. Davies era, But featured the return of Dalek Cann ‘who’s CooCoo for Cocoa Puffs’ and Davros ‘Not played by Terry Molloy sadly’ and finally they’re defeat that somehow feels it’s anti-climaxed.
I remember feeling chuffed when I was proved right that Thay Caan and Jast also survived Doomsday! Just beagging points I got in the playground
I thought this episode was already pretty nice anyway, but this video has helped my appreciation of it
the tentacle porn scene is my earliest memory of Who... that's a fun fact isn't it
Matt Moir oh Jesus christ
Matt Moir Since when have Daleks had a thing for pornography?!
Same as this wa any first ever ep I remember, I was 3
My Angel Put the Devil in Me is my JAM
clockwork_harlequin It's irresistibly catchy.
will you do something similar to this but for the cybermen
Wait wait... did I see spiderman?
Yes. Surprised there was no jokes about it.
Andrew Garfield getting an early acting performance! Crazy when you go back over the new series and see you famous actor early in their career. Like Olivia Colman in the 11th hour
@@nathantew946 Shiri was in Face the Raven!
I definitely need to rewatch this one. I remember never really liking it even when I was a younger and always assumed it to be one of the rare absolute misfires of the RTD era. I didn't like it on my last rewatch but that was a few years ago and I've only recently started to read defenses and analysis of it so it's only fair. Even if I still don't like it at least I've given it the benefit of the doubt, and it's got enough good elements for it to avoid the absolute worst tiers of the revival.
Your hypothetical joke about the Internet complaining about this story if it was out now is hilarious BUT I believe Raynor got a large amount of abuse in 2007 for the very reason she was a woman who wrote a poorly received story and this almost put her off writing another one. Luckily RTD talked her into doing another one and we got the Sontaran two parter which I love.
Series 2 is a misfire.
@@mayotango1317 I have got to respectfully disagree.
@@SoundsSarcastic234 I hate the soap opera Rose Tennant romance, even the reviewer hate her too.
Mayo Tango131
It’s fine if you don’t like that element, but there is more to Series 2 than just that.
The Christmas Invasion - a suspenseful story about an alien invasion where the Doctor isn’t around to save us, so it’s up to his friends to hold the fort while the Doctor recovers.
New Earth - a laugh-a-minute romp through a hospital from the future where David and Billie get to show their range as actors playing the lovable diva Cassandra.
Tooth and Claw - Queen Victoria and a werewolf. And the Doctor has seen the Muppet movie. Enuff said.
School Reunion - an emotional tale involving the Doctor confronting his past while Rose starts to gain some perspective on her relationship with the Doctor, and how strange it really is. Also, Mickey and K9 team-up.
The Girl in the Fireplace - yet another emotional tale. This one showing us through the terrifically silly device of a fireplace how the Doctor sees his relationships with other people - with them forever being on the slow path.
Rise of the Cybermen/Age of Steel - a great reintroduction for the Cybermen and a lovely conclusion to Mickey the Idiot’s character arc.
The Idiot’s Lantern - yeah, this one’s just okay. But Tennant and Piper are a lot of fun as the odd couple.
Impossible Planet/Satan Pit - Alien meets the Exorcist with a deeper exploration in to the Doctor’s character and Rose having to keep both herself and the crew together while the Doctor is trapped with no way to escape? Oh yeah, this is the RTD era at its best.
Love and Monsters - a lovely tribute to the show’s fans and how it brings people together through its ridiculousness.
Fear her - a tonal mess of an episode but still watchable -especially the pure Doctor/Rose hi-jinxes.
Army of Ghost/Doomsday - an action-packed, emotional farewell to the Doctor’s original post-time war fam. Still as much fun and moving as when it first aired in 2006, and my personal favourite finale.
TL;DR - I STRONGLY disagree with you, sir.
@@SoundsSarcastic234 The Impossible Planet/Satan Pit is one of my favorite Doctor Who stories of all time.
The Dalek Sec Hybrid was (and still is) a billion times scarier to me than the Weeping Angels ever were
The way Dalek Sec encases Diagres inside his casing still makes my skin crawl, its proper grim.
That whole discussion about the dubious science at the end of EOTD, I remember talking to you about that way back months ago, I guess that must have been while you were writing these reviews. It's fun to see that issue made it into the video.
5:52 I would have liked to have seen the Daleks create versions of Robomen with 1930s technology although I think the Pig Slaves were used instead to differentiate between them from the Dalek hybrids.
9:02 I don't know why but I quite like that shot of Dalek Sec, I think it's mainly because of the camera's positioning as there's a similar shot from part 2 where the rest of the Cult of Skaro betray Sec (at 18:37 - 18:41).
The weakest Dalek story of the RTD era but still pretty solid
Well I’m sure will ‘NNEEVVEERR’ see Dalek Cann ever again.
Is that a History of Power Rangers reference?
Nitro Indigo Why Yes, In fact I said it before in his Doomsday review.
JamesTheBrony/JTB and every review following
I like dalek cann and sec,I’ll find a tardis and travel back in time to skaro.
Easily the most underrated televised Dalek story.
Resurrection of the Daleks?
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I've always found more people speaking more favorably about Resurrection than about this two parter.
I really like this story. I know a lot of people don't, but I think it is one of the best Dalek stories and somewhere in the top 30 of the revival.
Angus Maxim Me too. Even if you don't like it. It's worth watching after a while.
I’ve never understood why people hate this story. It’s great. Sure it’s a little cheesy here and there but what doctor who story isn’t for the most part 🤷🏻♂️
That's the best thing about doctor who something amazing in the worst story and something shit in a great story
Never knew why this was blasted, I loved it when I watched it. And from this review, it seems to still hold up.
BBC, we demand Art Deco Daleks now!
Honestly I don’t like this one much, mostly for it’s second half and the design of the human-Dalek hybrid. I also don’t like the way the actor playing him acts in the role. I think it’s the accent getting in the way of the material.
Also The Evil of the Daleks just does it better. Maybe containing it to the 1930s political stuff would have worked better.
I love this story! Personally find this underrated
Oh, I love these reviews, and I agree wholeheartedly with this one. Especially about the pig slaves (why pigs?!) But I wish you’d said a little more about Solomon’s death. Some exquisitely dark humour there, with the poor guy making a beautiful and impassioned.speech because… because unlike the Doctor, unlike the viewers, he has no idea what he’s dealing with.
“Ain’t we the same? Ain’t we kin…? Well, whaddaya say?”
“EXTERMIIINAAAATE!!!!!”
It’s a shame this one gets such a bad rap, as its failures mostly emerge from its sheer ambition, rather than self-indulgence like a lot of poorer Dalek stories. I’ll give this one a look at some point.
I used to think this story was pretty weak.
However, I gave it another chance when doing a Series 3 marathon with my little sister (because she hadn't seen it, and Series 3 is the best of Who), and...
I actually really liked it. Not great, but still pretty good stuff that I enjoyed watching :)
I watched Evolution of the Daleks recently and something felt off with it but I couldn't put my finger on why. I found certain moments like Martha and Tallulah shouting Dalekanium and the way the Human Daleks marched and the way Sec sacrificed himself felt over the top and cheesy. I finally realised that it felt less like an TV episode and more like a theatre production. This thought occurred as they were surrounded in the theatre and everything just clicked into place and I enjoyed the episode a lot more after that realisation.
Manhattan seems to get all the Monsters such as the Daleks and Cybermen off screen in Army of Ghosts and Doomsday but even in other franchises outside of Dr Who like King Kong, Cloverfield and even Godzilla on few occasions.
3:02 Oh my God, you just predicted the RTD2 haters.
The cult’s mutiny in this 2 Parter reminded me of the wildebeest in The Wild.
Caan: We’re tired of pretending be something we’re not. But most of all, we’re tired of you.
My theory: the darleks are metaphors for investors.
I love the daleks in Manhattan
Also interesting point, fighting Daleks all of these years, you'd think Earth would build up arsenals which could counter Daleks (especially their guns in particular). Like at least UNIT should have them.
Sec was just the first experiment, and a slight failure.
The other Dalek humans didn't evolve
They DEVOLVED, straight back into their original Kaled form
They were Kaleds this whole time
NINTENDOSH if only it were that way I guess. Thing is Sec wasn’t a failure, he only was in the eyes of the cult. The other hybrids were human bodies just essentially given a software update so they didn’t change on the outside
N3RDYG0GGLES aren't Kaleds & Humans virtually indistinguishable?
As a kid, I found the pigs quite scary. My dog is named after Tallulah.
I named my cat after her😂😭
This is one of my favorite Dalek episodes and by extension one of my favorite stories in Doctor Who. Yes, I love this story.
This may not be my favourite Dalek stories, But I still enjoy them nonetheless, And I agree with MrTardisReviews on what he said.
I think the pig slaves could've been replaced by the Robomen or the Ogrons
God how great would new series robomen look like
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It's a decent story. I like the Daleks and the idea of one visionary becoming impure, and their fascism undercutting imagination and creation is a well done theme. I just don't see much reason for this to be set in the 1930s. I mean, I can see a vague reason for why Victory of the Daleks was set in WW2, especially for their influences, though this could be any time or place and the story is relatively unaltered. It's a fun time.
it’s still clear as day they weren’t in central park
IMO, this is the best Dalek story in Modern Who outside of Series 1.
11:14
When I first saw this scene I was absolutely terrified, but now I'm laughing at it thanks to this romantic music.
Art-deco? Hmmmmm and I'm still holding out for pure silver/chrome Daleks.
Loved this two parter don't care what anyone says. Has some questionable moments but I love it
For me personally i actually like this 2 parter episode and feel it is a very underrated doctor who episode and dalek story. I also hold some nostalgia towards this episode as I remember watching it all the time with my dad when I was younger. And tbh I was actually sad when they killed off dalek sec because I liked his characterisation and his interaction with the doctor. He reminded me of a younger less evil and facised Davros, and I love how through out he questions his species and wonders if their cause is wrong. Personally I think I enjoy the story so much even to this day is because I prefer dalek stories were it is only a small group/one dalek that is trying to fight for survival to continue to live on, whilst I do enjoy dalek stories where it is a full dalek empire like journey's end I just feel when it is a small group of daleks they get more characterisation and room to grow they are treated like actual characters and creatures rather than some bad guy that need s to be defeated. I also find it ironic that in the next dalek story dalek Caan causes the near extinction of his whole race because he realised the flaws of his race exactly like sec did (it is also due to the fact that he was turned insane) and it's more ironic because when Caan scapes the doctor (again) he is sent back into the time war unprotected and saves his creator (which we never get an explanation of how but to me the explanation to how it happens is in the episode called the dalek that time forgot and and yes Ik it isn't cannon). Btw love these videos I've been watching them all in order as I always like to hear another whovians opinions on the episodes keep up the good work xx
i feel this story is way better than its given credit for. It's one of my favs of the season and my second favourite dalek story of the new series behind "dalek".
Art Deco Daleks? Hmm? Maybe Chris Chibnall should look into that idea in the future if he writes for the Daleks again. Also, look into Dalek school.
Anyone agree?
Thanks again for the review... well done.
I'm not sure what to think about this two-parter... it's not really a favorite of mine, but after listening to the review, I'm not sure why. Perhaps it's just the wholesale slaughter?
so Dalek SEC think the only way for the humans to keep surviving what is it supposed to keep surviving is that many humans are merging with the humans
This is my favourite Dalek story (aside from Genesis of course).
Ehh, I mean looking back I could say its 10's best Dalek Story (Doomsday, and Journey's End at times feel too bloated for their own good, plus the Rose Tyler worshiping in both can get grating)
But 2nd best Dalek story. Compared to Invasion of the Earth, Power of the Daleks, Resurrection, Remembrance, Eccleston's Dalek, Magicians Apprentice (hell I could even be tempted to add Absolution, arguably the best Whitaker has done so far). Not really seeing it.
It's my favorite modern Dalek story outside of Series 1.
Calum Bishop thought it was called Resolution?
I'll never understand the pigs thing. Robomen were fine, why would you get rid of Robomen?
I've never been too keen on the Dalek Sec mask, as the tentacles are stubby and rather inflexible, making it look too much like a cow's udder for me to take seriously. Apart from that I now enjoy this story, even though I was a bit underwhelmed on first viewing.
I'd just like to mention that I find it stupid how Dalek Sek says "But there are millions of humans and only four of us. If we are supreme, why are we not victorious?" First, you didn't attack THESE humans. You could slaughter them all no issue. Second, humans didn't get involved in a dimension/time-spanning genocidal war. That was you and the Time Lords. In fact, there are four of you and ONE Time Lord, so technically, you're winning!!
Your not wrong
I don't dislike this episode as much as i did when it aired (it's still not good), when it did was when dalek fatigue started to set in (this was the 4th thime in three series that they had appeared and the constant overuse of the three big villains is an issue still with new who), there was justbno need for yet another dalek story.
But the pig men and the sub plot with the pig man and the singer with the annoying voice (due to a fake accent) was really bad.
The political aspect is good (but that isn't enough for me to like it) and the idea of the daleks trying to evolve is interesting but it's the execution of it that is bad, like the doctor having to climb the tower and the lightning and the design of the human/dalek hybrid and the doctors timelord dna somehow getting into the dalek humans (which makes no sense).
I agree that the dalek tommy guns are cool.
I'm glad you put that music over the bonding scene. Scared the crap out of me as a kid.
FatSnorlax i always found it kind of awkward as hell (still do) so started cracking up at the music
Not a single mention that Andrew Freaking Garfield is in this episode before he became Spider-Man?
This was my first ever episode I ever watched I was 3 years old and is my oldest memory
The Lazarus Experiment is the weakest story of Series 3, and it’s not even close. We run out of plot after about 8 minutes, and then we go into a Scooby-Doo hide ‘n’ seek for the rest of the entire story.
3:24 I think that this is a little more subtle in its delivery. Outside of four episodes, series eleven lack subtle and one of the reasons why I didn't enjoy the series.
i loved the idea of the doctor lecturing martha about history and the idea of a black man leading whovervile and how politically charged it kind of is but in the end the story wasn't very well received, also love the fact that they show they exploit the workers and the homeless are forgotten
2:59 yeh that is definitely you being petty, there’s nothing about this two parter, or hardly any other episode, that’s nearly as preachy as the current who though I remember The zygon two parter was up there though
The fact I never really thought about the capitalist undertones and literal pigs proves to me anyway it was subtle enough
This should have been in series 9 12 would have had a field day with this hybrid
Is it just me or do daleks already look Art Deco?
No...no...why would you play that music over that part...?
It's been so long since I've see this two-parter, and I never really looked for themes in it or gave it a second chance. Maybe I should.
At 1:42, did you mean Daleks? 😂
Trilbee, I love you, but you've got to stop giving the Anti-SJW crowd red meat and preaching to the choir. It's not convincing anyone to change their minds and just makes everyone plant their flags deeper. Like, I'm not saying don't comment on it, it's a review and actually it's really interesting to hear about, but just the red mist of "Could you imagine what they would do? They would say this this and this" is soo exhausting and doesn't get anything done.
I think it's more to do with mocking and satirising ridiculous opinions than preaching to the choir. People like Bowlestrek are crying out to be mocked.
@@andrewbowman4611 Once or twice is a joke, but he does it to the point where it’s eye rolling and ruins otherwise good reviews
7:49
You will NEVER convince me that the scene where Dalek Sec eats Diagorus disn't start the Vore and Inflation fetishes that are now rife on the internet. Think, the timelines do kinda add up. Also, I saw this as a kid, big mistake. I thought he was coming to eat me next. Glad I'm an adult now and can watch and enjoy. Final thing, it always bugged me that the CGI mutant didn't have the mutilated face the other ones had.
I think the people who invented that were definitely inspired by Doctor Who since the Gallifray Chronicles (one of the last Wilderness Years novels) has a species villain called Vore... and in 2020 Chibnall apparently didn't know that fetish existed as he named the tech company in Spyfall VOR which is pronounced the same.
@@Jedi_Spartan And had a Dalek farm in Osaka. Tentacled creatures in Japan...enough said.
These reviews are a really great idea, but please *stop spoiling Classic Who without warning.* And don't no one give me the "it's been fifty years" bollocks, do you want me to watch more Classic episodes or not?
In this video, what are you referring to in terms of spoiling the classic series?
@@MrTARDIS - just references to plotlines as well as footage. Actually, verbal references are okay since I wouldn't understand the full context at this point. It might be a fun gimmick if you put a little Classic Dalek on the screen just prior, cos I understand you want to talk about Dalek stories on whole as well as individually.
the reason people complain about diversity and lectures in series 11 and 12 is because the show and writing is rubbish. There was little complaints at the diversity and lectures in pre-series 11 because the writing was actually good for the most part.
i always became annoyed at later who ep because the doctor and no good dalek spiel he would constantly repeat, even though here sec became a good dalek, proof that the Daleks could change for the better
This two parter can be summed up as good ideas but a very lackluster execution. I really don't buy the Doctor helping his greatest enemy start again and evolve plus the American accents are worse than The Gunfighters.
I understand the Doctor wanting to help the Daleks start over, it's the fact he overlooks mass kidnapping and murder that's the issue.
@@benw4409 I wouldn't say he overlooks it. Sec shows remorse for what the daleks did to those people and the Doctor was shown to have a bit of a pragmatic approach to dead bodies in the Dickens episode. An approach of "the damage is done, don't let it be for nothing" feels fitting for this Doctor, to me at least.
wendyheatherwood You explained it better than I could have
This is the first I heard of people not liking this one. Figures.
Surprised you weren't aware of its infamy.
Really? Tbh I get happy every time I find people who DID like it with all the unnecessary backlash it gets
12:52 17:09 17:12 18:11
17:31 What and ruin the plot?
LOL!
Pro: first NuWho story written by a woman!
Con: its Evolution of the Daleks
Double Con: she’s a terf :/
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2:55 - Neither wrong nor petty.
If any of you think this story is terrible, please know that this could've been even worse if Steven Moffat wrote it.
Robert McGhin I doubt there would have been such a demand for him to be showrunner if he had screwed this story up.
Maybe be more scary or fun. But no boring as Chibnall who.
I actually think that this betters Evil Of The Daleks.
Meanwhile, in the anti-Capitalist paradise that is the USSR...
The worst Dalek story
No way it’s my childhood dalek story.
No the worst is victory of the Daleks
@@charlesfranze3571 I think the episode is ok till we get to the Power Ranger Daleks.
These episodes were heresy! Corruption being invited into perfection. DIsgusting desire to "do something different" which completely undercut the foundational belief of the Daleks. Exploring different avenues with the Daleks can be interesting, I read a comic once where some Daleks gained an appreciation of beauty, but you cannot remove the rock solid belief in their supremacy. I hated the look of the Sec hybrid and the pig men also looked shitty. The end was pretty stupid, Khan's slow reactions on the drones was ridiculous.
Coulter A Dalek wrote this lel
back on moffet he had some of the best and scariest episodes during the rtd era but when he took over the show got boring
Watch the Chibnall era for boring Who.
@@DrWhoFanJ Ah, you like The Timeless Children?
@@DrWhoFanJ Weirdo. You are a weirdo Rose/Tennant lover.