Ballerina Farm: I met Hannah Neeleman - this is what I learned | The Story
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Millions of social media users are flocking to follow the Trad Wives: stay-at-home mothers who champion a life making meals from scratch and serving their husband’s and children’s every need. Our reporter goes to meet the woman behind the most popular account: Hannah Neeleman of Ballerina Farm. Is she selling a feminist dream or an unattainable lifestyle?
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Why is there controversy on this woman? Feminists spend their time repeating to women to be free and confident into their life decisions but, society cries crocodile tears when one is confident into a traditional wife life.
We have other things to worry about... honestly!
Because they are filthy rich pretending to be homesteaders that's why if they would just tell the truth about their situation and pretending then maybe people wouldn't be so upset
Try exploring the fact that 10 million followers are obviously drawn to something deeper. It’s evident that the heart that beats inside this woman is that of an artist and one who follows it without reservation. She’s unstoppable because of the support of family and community. No one escapes life without consequence of choice and I’m sure she measured the life of exhaustion and sacrifice that accompanies world class dancers. It’s all a trade off ladies. Now go back to your choices and live your lives and appreciate this woman’s artistry without comparison guilt, shame or projection.
Lol seems you are one of many fooled by this filthy rich privileged woman that has tons of help so she can cosplay as a homesteader.
totally agree, thank you for this comment!
I would love to stay home, but if I am doing all of this work and popping out children, you better be a KING. If I ask to go to Greece, you better not ship me an apron. I will snap.
Yup exactly
@@123hgardner agreed
She would have loved to be a ballerina AND go to Greece. She couldn't be further from both. That man is never going to buy her those tickets. If she had money and time at her disposal then she could have gone herself, but for some mysterious reason she just remains at the farm, always.
Right, you better ship the home farm to Greece!
that;s why you're not a queen
Anyone with 9 million followers is a businesswoman with substantial own income, probably earns a lot more than her husband with trying to scam other women into giving up financial independence. Grew up in a household where my mother was indeed dependent on my father's income, which he kindly reminded her of every single day. Also, how much he worked and what a burden we (my mom and three kids) were for him. Of course, from what I gathered as a kid, it didn't start out him being this way. At the wise age of 23 he knew he wanted a big, traditional family. Problem is, he didn't know neither could he really imagine the evergday reality of that. He wanted the propaganda, not the reality. My mother had very poor prospects going back to employment with three kids, she had her babies so young (19 when I was born), also I think she never really built up a confidence to make it in the outside world. Used to be angry with her for letting my father treat her and us as he was, but now I just feel sorry for her.
Loool when did Hannah EVER tell other women to give up financial independence. Everyone knows she is a content creator and business woman.
@@reccyre So, you are a trad wife while you also work? That's the idea? How is it different then from what everyone is already doing anyway?
@@evaulpius6252 first of all she doesn't claim to be a trad wife. She posted cooking videos which went viral and people labeled her as that. Trad wife is typically a woman who does housewife duties and raises the children at home instead of putting them in daycare.
@@reccyre Again, see about financial dependence. The problem is these influences popularise a lifestyle they themselves are not living. Whether they do it openly or not. It is very hypocritical in my opinion. Meanwhile, the reality of it for many women is so vastly different.
@@reccyre No, a traditional wife is a woman who doesn't have a career outside of her family. The version of a traditional wife is that the husband is 100% responsible for all the finances of the family. The woman takes care of the home, takes care of her husband, children, and household. Modern " Trad Wives" are cosplaying, I grew up at a time when most families had a stay at home mother. If one is a content creator, that is not a traditional wife.
If you’d ever lived on a farm, you’d know that Daniel works just as hard as Hannah. Remember, Hannah made this choice for herself and we should respect and support her in that decision, even if it’s not the same one you would have made for yourself. Why all the hate, gossip, and backbiting?
If you look at how the start of the relationship started you will see that he is bad news. Working hard or not, he is a controlling man and is bad news.
@claireconolly8355 and she has the choice to leave. Stop infantalising women
I doubt Daniel is working as hard as Hannah. She takes care of the kid 24/7 while he gets to do the families laundry alone if he wants. Its not the same being pregnant and still taking care of the home.
@@user-et2ng1qb2m She would not benefit from leaving at this point. Her children would suffer, the divorce would be long and drawn out if he wanted, she has multiple young children. Her best bet is to just stay at this point. But that’s not to say she even *wants* out.
@@beepbopboop7727 how you know what she wants you listen to a journalist who lied about everything and had come out with retraction later on.
The idea is to sell a fantasy! Tired of seeing fake bs on social media. These people are the Kardashians of Mormonism
Yup. Thinking that if the fantasy is like this, how bad must be the reality. Feels bad for women trapped in the situation.
@@pbm1645bad enough that 12 days after giving birth you’ll want to escape in any way possible. prob the only way she could actually just be with the new baby. She probably felt like she was on the best vacay and ppl act like she was working. She had other ppl do her hair and make up and she went to socialize and eat with others. Good for her! I’m sure she needed all of that. But it wasn’t working. I’ve seen women work in restaurants and factories until the day they give birth. *sorry for ranting 😂 it wasn’t directed towards you at all I liked your comment.
Not even close! You sound jealous.
@@songbirds3712 jealous of what !? That this crazy cult tries to force the lifestyle on everyone when it’s not even real! They are lying to young people w this fantasy bs! Just like the Kardashians
😂 totally, you read my thoughts!
This raises serious ethical questions. Megan Agnew seriously misrepresented the situation.
She certainly did!
Totally agree with you
No, she did not. Just what was misrepresented?
Who's Megan?
No she did not she's the only one telling the truth these people are the Kardashians of Mormonism get real they are not homesteaders
If my husband’s family/husband were a millionaire, of course I also would be living in a farm, cooking from scratch everyday (because I like it). I would instead skip the 8 children and for sure I would hire an army of cleaners. That’s nothing new, thats just be rich and that’s it.
Very happy for them to have the money to do that. Well done. The rest of us… we have to work, inside or outside the home.
I think this is very biased and set out to make her husband look like a terrible person on purpose. I look at their meeting as romatic. She had a choice, not to marry him. She made the choice to do so. Bc it didnt seem like her family forced her to be anything more than herself. She was a Ballerina at Juilliard and continued for year's. Yes, she should of waited that year perhaps but that was her choice.
Well, why would he tell the journalist about getting a flight with her so he could date her, why tell them that about her exhaustion? That was HIS choice.
@@beepbopboop7727because they were being interviewed on their lives and what led to this. This journalist is so bias. Even this interview show cases how bias she is....
I personally wouldn't choose this life but respect what they showcase. The idea this 'false perception' or she was co-erced... 8 kids say otherwise. I love their content. This reporter is disgusting....
Since when is not respecting someone's wishes and stalking them romantic?!?
She would not have 9M followers being a dancer. Just sayin'.
You can be whatever kind of lame person you want to be but your right to be lame stops when you attempt to force someone to be as lame as you.
Nobody is forcing you to do anything, it's all in your imagination and I'm not joking. This is a free country, the handmaids tail dystopia is a lie that will never happen. Being a mother is not lame. You are free to be a bitter childless person, no one is ever stopping you from doing that.
@@merriweatherpines This
Everything is us vs whoever. It’s their life. Live yours and love it. I worked for 42 years, married 43 years, had 2 wonderful kids and made them as much from scratch foods that time allowed. Life is short and stop worrying about someone’s decisions.
I would argue though that most women would not choose to have ten children with back to back pregnancies exactly nine months in between. Feels like she is not given any agency. They leave it up to "god" to decide how many children she must bear, aka the husband.
@@guppy191 I wouldn’t wish to have her life or her husband. My mom used to say if you like it then I love it for you. I had two and it took a toll on my body.
I would want to live like that to. Nothings wrong with it.
Me too!!! So rich with such a huge staff that you get to pretend to be a homesteader!!!
The journalist is extremely biased
So, this is about a Mormon family in Utah. This is not happening in overwhelming numbers. It also doesn't seem like a new fad for religious Mormon families, or it's not far off from a typical large family there.
As someone in his late 30s living in a city, I am shocked to see so many teens and twenty-somethings turning to Christianity, "family values", that kind of thing. The change is very real.
@@YorickReturns Not in my city, though.
@@YorickReturnswhat city is this happening? Super curious.
@@Recoveringred Manchester, England.
@@YorickReturnsDisplaying christian values in Manchester, with the increasing pressure from migration, is a different thing though
The writer was extremely manipulative. She made up her mind before even meeting them to frame their life in a negative way.
Facts. It's like Megan was paid to push 4th wave feminism and frame Hannah as being oppressed. She did damage with this article, now there's thousands of people claiming that she needs to be saved.
She didn’t seem that way to me. There is no way you can sell 8 kids, no epidural, chronic exhaustion and a egg apron for your birthday as a positive.
@@beepbopboop7727that is your view but it doesnt mean that you are right.
@@beepbopboop7727and just because someone lives a life not in accordance with your views does not mean that someone is in the negative. Get over yourself.
I’m 27 and fairly plugged into my generation - I don’t think people quite realise the yearning amongst us for some kind of structure, ideal, meaning in our lives. I’m seeing some of us go towards Christianity, towards extreme self care, traditional gender roles - people have had enough of the liberal nonsense we’ve had to suffer from the generation above, and the ones below.
you find life too complicated and desire for it to be simplified for you by putting demands on other people...
You're right...for about 2% of the population.
@michaelmichaels-tw7wd where, once, did I either declare myself to be taking that path, or place demands on anybody? I’d make a joke insulting your intelligence but being a Ukraine fanatic and advocating for that money laundering scheme insult enough.
@@SFRZRD please go easy on our Ukrainian friend. The "trad" wife and traditional family structure of their country has been decimated by a dictator. So this "trend" in America is predicated upon wealth and access to resources such as safety, modern communication and health care.
I hear both longing and bitterness in this voice for these things which have been stolen from this Eastern European country.
4th wave feminism has corrupted 1st and 2nd wave feminism's original objectives. Obviously it was going to drive some women back to femininity.
THE KIDS ARE HAPPY
HANNAH AND DANIEL ARE HAPPY......THE OUTSIDERS ARE JEALOUS!!!!!
They can't see a happy woman. I can see too many frustrations in the lives of these people criticizing her and her family.
Eh she and the kids look unsettled to say the least......
yeah right. we are so jealous of her popping out 8 babies while getting denied epidural and basic empathy. not to mention that we are jealous of her loving husband who never buys her anything even after having all that wealth. right we are so so fking jealous.
@@timelyferry 💯
I confess I’m very jealous about one thing: MONEY MONEY MONEY (and the stunning huge farm I will never be able to buy)
Girl you are trash talking about all that you are sure it’s true about this family. You disrespected this family who respectfully opened their home to you. You should apologize
That audio was a very important one. It in no way demeaned or criticised Hannah and Daniel, but did identify the realities of women stuck in the home by necessity in our previous generations. I do follow ' Ballerina Farm' podcasts, but I don't allow them to make me feel as though my life falls short. We're all different
I love how modern feminism has amounted to this 'journalist' having so little faith in the ability and strength of women that she genuinly believes that a lifestyle of cooking and raising children and working a farm is unachievable. Wow. What do you think women have been doing for thousands of years prior to the 21st century. Deary me.
Mormon women MUST OBEY. This is not her desire. He's a history major. He just wants to be a cowboy history reenactor. He doesn't care one bit how difficult, exhausting, and aging this life was for women. Women died early from never-ending pregnancy and farm labor. Men just replaced them. He will do the same. She is obeying and following his orders because she thinks God wants this. She's held hostage by corrupted religious beliefs. Christ actually instructed followers to remain single to focus on spiritual work and only marry if you are not strong enough. It's the pagan worship of male fertility from Freemasonry that Conservatives and Joseph Smith center male reverence and worship around. Women are held hostage by this cult for fear of eternal damnation.
The issue is her asking for more help, self control, and things for herself but him rejecting it. You don’t think a happy person regularly spends a week in bed due to “exhaustion” right?
What did she ask for that he rejected? And the fact is, the journalist said that this lifestyle is unachievable and my point is that she doesn't have much faith in the strength and ability if women if she thinks that what women have done for thousands of years to keep the human race going is unachievable.
@dianasaunders5897 She must obey her husband. That's required. He's an eccentric wealthy trust fund oddball whose fixation is being a historical reenactor of cowboy culture. She wanted to dance and live in NYC. He said NO. He said, old timey prarie wife, never-ending pregnancy, and hard farm labor. She has to obey under Mormonism. She can't be further from her dreams.
@marz9676 I'm sorry can you quote that please? I think you'll find that early on in her marriage he said to her 'If you want to dance, dance' ... and she in fact did dance in Brazil.. then she had babies and gave up dancing (As stated in the article). Like I said, please quote his telling her 'NO' to dancing and 'you must be old prairie wife with never ending pregnancies!' ... you can't go making claims like that without quoting it.. it just makes you look uninformed.
This journalist sounds like the most jealous, judgemental feminist. She needs to find a great man, seems like she has had some bad relationships
No man would have her
🤔Why Is It YOU can Choose to live Your Life the way YOU want but SHE Not...
Why do you think It's alright to shove Your Ideals down everyone else's throat.
Did we watch the same video? She danced for 2 yrs in Brazil with her second child and he said to continue and she decided doing both motherhood and commiting full time to dance couldn't happen. This is totally logical
She decided to do it, and she is ok with that. That was her decision and that’s the important part.
It helps that they come from money
Not only helps, is necessary.
He comes from money. She doesn’t.
He also "don't like nannies at home "
a bird that is in golden cage, guess what? is still caged.
How come men never choose the woman who wants to be a homemaker? Instead they want to convert a career woman into a homemaker
because it's like a game for them. They find an independent woman, they break her into a fraction of what she was, they move on to the next
She is the CO-Ceo of a company that bears her image. Posts videos featuring all her products and indeed has a team of people who help her. She has someone homeschool her kids, a person cleaning her house, and her husband does ALL the laundry for 10 people. The author forgets to mention her social media and production who puts together the videos. So she wants to go to Greece...good for her, especially since she had just returned from France not long ago. This woman get more help than most women, and does it all while happily dancing to the bank as she gets richer and richer by the day. You are a lazy biased author MA. Shame on you for not supporting women.
She is allegedly 'Co-CEO' of a company exclusively in her husband's name. Hmm.
Didya read the article? There are some serious discrepancies from your supposed interpretation.
No mundo de hoje as pessoas perderam a noção das coisas mais importantes, veem a maternidade e a família como algo banal, quando na verdade é a coisa mais sagrada da terra, Hanna e Daniel sabem muito bem o que é mais importante e onde querem chegar, estão cumprindo um plano. Parabéns ao casal, ensinam aos filhos o que mais importa, este mundo está no fim.
Concordo plenamente com você. Todas essas "preocupações" vêm de um lugar de inveja.
Os argumentos de que mulheres são maltratadas, oprimidas por cultos religiosos e abusadas por parceiros agressivos ou abandonadas sem dinheiro após anos de sacrifício são válidos. Mas esse não é o caso de Hannah, ela está ganhando seu próprio dinheiro, ela é livre para dançar se quiser, ela até participa de concursos de beleza - ela é uma das sortudas que tem uma familia linda, mora em um sítio encantador e tem um marido rico que lhe dá uma vida calma e abençoada.
Next do "Islamic Wife"
These two talking from the times are totally high school mean girls. This entire recording is projecting their own beliefs ON THIS WHOLE FAMILY. It smells like jealousy and bitterness. The interviewer who actually wrote this hit piece acted like she EXPECTED to have total alone time with a mother of 8 kids. Hannah is an adult & feminism was for a woman to have a RIGHT TO HAVE CHOICE. This is Hannah’s. You went after her kids in the article. I grew up farming. It’s HARD work but it’s not EXTREME, you just made the comment that what they chose is EXTREME. No it’s not. 🙄
Where do think your food comes from??? You’re completely out of touch, this entire article was pure insecure projection. I bet when she mentions the beauty of Hannah in the article all she felt in real life is hatred (jealousy)
She feels she’s being scored for her “sinful” life in city because she saw a hard working family with values and was the snake in the grass that wrote a hit piece, knowing she contributes nothing much except gossip and judgement where she’s from.
guess who got mad
Well let’s define choice. I believe in INFORMED CONSENT. If you are in a religion they are not necessarily telling you the whole truth and therefore the choice is based on partial deception.
There is nothing mean about this. they literally said now great that both traditional and modern lifestyles exist in the same world
Ashleylebedev Thank you for sharing your thoughts, I completely agree with you. All this ”concerns" are coming from a place of envy.
The arguments of women being mistreated, oppress by religious cult and abused by aggressive partner or being abandoned with no money after years of sacrifice is valid. But that's not the case with Hannah, she's making her own money, she's free to dance if she wants to, she even takes part in beauty pageants - she's one of the lucky ones who got a rich man (a dancer's career is short and doesn't pay much) who gives her a calm and blessed life.
The negative noises are coming from a source sustained by jealousy and prejudice, it's clearly when people want to make a rich, successful and well-realised woman the victim. Her life makes many people feel belittled, so to feel better with themselves people are making up a story, likewise the journalist who wrote the sad article.
The writer is driven by pure hate and resentment,
The snotty women on this broadcast sound spiteful and sad and jealous. I’ve been lucky enough to have had an amazing career but not at the expense of family life (got three kids and now a grandma). I love Ballerina Farm. Good for her and ignore these very envious women
I couldn’t agree more. They are totally high school mean girls. they projected their own beliefs ON THIS WHOLE FAMILY. The interviewer acted like she EXPECTED to have total alone time with a mother of 8 kids.
I see as a comparison people normally do. You are judging the journalists as "snotty", "mean high school girls", but they are WORKING showing the life someone who is a kind of a leader in a movement, it is their job. Having millions of followers comes with some caveats. If Hannah is happy with her life now, perfect! But people should be free to choose based on reality, not only on a instagram facade, carefully carved to look beautiful
3 kids and a career is not the same as sacrificing your career to have 8 kids and no epidural. You are not her Honey. She doesn’t represent you 😂😂. The delusion.
Interesting listen. It is very dependant on money so that’s great that this was addressed.
Yes Someone said hannah should sue Megan Agnew and i AGREED she open her home to a stranger and she wrote a nasty articles about her family despicable.
What was among with it
If he had at least pretended to look like a caring husband it wouldn't have blown up in his face. He is controlling. You only have to look at the start of their relationship to see that he put his own wants way ahead of her own.
“It’s impossible.” …while providing a documentary of a family actually doing the “impossible” task. Come on now.
They are doing what they are doing due to the available outside resources of the society. If they truly wanted to be trad, modern medicine and communication would not be available. Otherwise, it's hybrid trad.
Well she is doing it at the expense of her health. But that is her choice it seems. I hope she takes her vitamins.
They are selling a lie they're not homesteaders they're Filthy Rich and have an industrialized ranch with a huge staff so they can cosplay and pretend to be homesteaders get real and the reason they say that this is impossible is because first of all they bought the ranch for 2.75 million and then dumped Millions more into it industrializing it and for their staff yeah most people cannot do that most people are not multi-millionaires because daddy owns JetBlue get real
They actually planned to have 10 kids so two more to go,they are living their dream i must say,the feminist are finding it hard to believe she made her choices 😅
This is actually disgusting to me. Ballerina Farm does not deserve this in anyway they are a beautiful God loving family. How dare this person write such a horrible article on this beautiful family. Their supporters like myself will not let her try to tear down what they’ve worked so hard for.❤
Everything she said was spot on and it doubt you can name a single thing that she said that was wrong
This journalist os full of sh**, my grandma had 12 children, lived in a farm in mountains with her animals and she LOVED IT and I plan to do the same! And we even aren't mormon, we are from Europe where traditional and HEALTHY life is valued
You just need to find a millionaire husband that buys you a massive farm
And the mass divorces in the near future
She is NOT a victim. She is a pretty white woman who could have had anyone and chose to marry the richest guy that was into her. She had a choice and thanks to her looks she had much better options than most women have. Don’t feel bad for her.
Exercising her womens liberal rights to have 8 children safely in a state of no war.
This is terrible journalism. Didn’t do your full homework and are definitely judgy and biased.
Are you mormon?
Biased? You mean there is a positive way you can spin 8 kids, no epidural, and chronic exhaustion as a positive thing.
@@beepbopboop7727 just because you don't like doesn't mean other people have to think same way as you do.
If they would stop with the lies maybe people wouldn't be so upset for example why does Hannah says they start from scratch of course they did not second Daniel didn't give anything up he's the one that dreamed up the homestead he's the one that wanted it😢🎉
Hannah should absolutely sue Megan Agnew. THOUSANDS of people are spamming Hannah and her husband's account based off of a manipulative biased agenda driven article.
Oh shut up they know what they r doing
Why? That husband is a history major. He's a history dork that has forced his family to live on his authentic personal cowboy museum and act out his Live Action Role Playing country fantasies. It's no different than those colonial and Civil War reenactor nerds. She is held hostage by the Mormon teaching that men can permit or refuse their wives into heaven. She must obey. He's living his childish fantasy at her expense. He has every resource to care for her and help her, but withholds. Thats not love!! The story is honest!
The truth can be shocking and hurtful but it had to be told. Hannah is free to respond if she wants to do so - or if her husband tells her to respond...
It’s like watching the Duggars all over again! I feel sorry for the kids that are forced to be parents!
@@marz9676seriously christians got so weird after Yellowstone
Anything but trad - nothing more than a particular niche of social media where you can continue to make money buy selling your weird obsessions or ways of life. Unless the trad 1950s had internet social media - did I miss that?
In truth, when I was first online - before 99.9% of people here - way back in 1982, I never foresaw it would end in this weird desperate world we have now.
What was the internet in 1982-forums for universities-?
@@Recoveringred I was online at home on the micronet network as teenager in 1982. I was on the the JANET (joint academic network) a few years later when I started university and then research work after. I was working for the same organisation that developed the world wide web (http protocols) so was first on that in 1991.
To all the people saying it's an biased article and Hannah is oh so happy. She wrote a blog before Instagram, where she describes how sad, lonely and depressed she is because she's completely alone with the kids and her only happiness is to talk with her baby, while Dan is gone from 7-10. She wasnt happy. She also describes how Dan is happy that she loses a pageant, which is toxic, and then immediately after wanted to propose and she had to ask him to delay it. That's toxic af. Just that her blog wasn't polished up by the full-time social media manager they are now employing.
And to all who are saying she's a savy business woman and could leave him. The business is only in his name, the house is only in his name. She effectively has nothing, not even the brandname ballerinafarm, which he owns alone. If she'd leave she'd lose it all. Likely also the children, we all know who would be able to get the better lawyers and the house is his alone, so is the Instagram, the company... Would be hard to afford a house big enough to get custody for all the kids... Shes way too deep in the sunk-cost fallacy to leave
This article and story is absolute trash and quite frankly full of lies and ignorance from the journalist. Just one example amoungst many is the idea that Hannah makes her lifestyle seem effortless and easy when it isnt and that she is misleading every day women. Hannah makes it very clear the work that she puts into the pageants, lifting weights, cold dips, spray tans, teeth whitening. You would have to be pretty idiotic to get the impression that the process is effortless. Not to mention that if you look at 95% of her videos she is completely makeup free and wearing pretty dull and plain work clothes and just happens to be naturally pretty.
Seems like a lot of this stems from jealousy tbh.
This article isnt a promotion of that life-style nor of Ballerina Farm brand, it isnt hard to understand. It is an analysis of the trad wife movement, being Ballerina Farm one of the front images. It also compares that movement to the feminism. For me it is a really interesting study of a reality, useful to people learn about it and see what they think for themselves. For me, it would be unnaceptable to "forget" a dream and form a family after a lot of pressure to be what people and religion wanted me to do.
So why doesn’t she talk about her exhaustion? He down days? The struggles with her lifestyle? Why not represent what her life is really like instead of getting exposed by the times.
@beepbopboop7727 uhm.. she did.. in the interview with The Times. It wasn't a cover up that was exposed. She talked about it openly in a literal interview with The Times.
@jader.sphair she states in the interview though that she is not a 'trad wife' and doesn't associate with that title. And fine, if you wouldn't give up your dreams for another dream then don't. But Hannah, and many other men and women do.. for children. Children and married life are a dream for some people, crazy as that might be 🙄 and for some people it takes priority over other things. That doesn't mean that the journalist had the right to drag Hannah's family through the mud because she doesn't agree with her choices.
@beepbopboop7727 I'll say as well, she doesn't have to reveal her struggles or her insta or youtube. She largely uses Instagram to promote her farm and its products.. her content is not 'this is what my life is like'. It like asking a musician to release their badly written songs or, in a movie where someone buffs up for the role they must also release a disclaimer or clip of their struggles with diet and exercise regime otherwise they're being deceitful. Most people will understand that when you run a business and are raising children that there are going to be down days and difficulties. It's so sad that with modern media, people are not able to come to those conclusions on their own and they need people to reveal their entire lives to them otherwise 'they're hiding something'.
The ironic thing is that they're CHOOSING to have this life. It's not forced on them. It's almost like having a secular society where women can choose what kind of life to live is a good thing. You can even choose to reject your choice if you want; just don't try to force that on everyone else.
I think choice is so important. The only worrying thing about this case is that I'm not sure how much of a choice it is for her. I also think to the degree of how much she's doing. If you look at the beginning of their relationship he was not a healthy choice. He didn't let her (or even encourage) finish her studies and made her pregnant before she could finish. He also won't build her a small ballet studio (he promised) even though he is very wealthy.
@@claireconolly8355 I agree wholeheartedly. These "traditional" things all seem to be code for "man first, kids second, collective family unit third, and woman last."
I don’t necessarily think her choices were based on informed consent, and that’s the issue.
If you want to be a trad family, do it without modern communications
I think i agree with the writer but cant tell…the writer was so insufferable that I actually felt defensive of the so-called “trad wife”. Personally, Hannah is living my worst nightmare but my desk job is probably her nightmare as well. So whatever…
Can people stop labelling her as whatever they want? And let them be, like 😅
It’s like watching the Duggars all over again! Yellowstone turned people weird! Feel sorry for the kids being forced to be adults and parents
Cat ladies strike again! 🙄
Is there a video to go with this?
Since I can't see my comment posted under here anymore I am going to simply repeat it.
Please search for 'ballerina farm egg apron' to see what human trash looks like.
This IS the video
I just want to know what the [censored] a "trad wife" is.
Traditional wife
Stay at home wives married to rich husbands
Women who does housewife duties and typically stays home raising the children instead of putting them in daycare.
Can’t you put those two words together and figure it out?
@beepbopboop7727 "Trad" isn't a word, and considering how much the right communicates in dog-whistles and short-hand, no. That's why I asked.
Going back to the country life, farming your own food and cooking it from scratch is self sufficiency, a mith deeply ingrained in the culture of a land of pioneers like America. Periodically, in times of uncertainty, this mith resurfaces and draws crowds to it. As for striving to look cute even few days after giving birth - and striving to make believe that’s effortless - this is just stoicism, another important strand of anglo-saxon culture. So basically nothing new under the sun.
Can’t disagree … though I think it’s a moral value, rather than a ‘mith’ 😊
Stoicism is an important strand of anglo-saxon culture? I didn't realise the Greek & co. were anglo-saxon
@@user-et2ng1qb2m They’re not Jews either, but practice a religion coming from the Judea of roman times
Ms. Hannah is married to a narcissist who gave her a sad little egg apron wrapped in a shabby little box as a birthday present? No way! That was his devaluation gift! His gift is devaluation! Since he is a narcissist, I'm sure he's got another girlfriend or two lined up now that we see his sorry excuse of a gift to his IPPS. The narcissist should have given his wife and children a trip to Greece. He could afford it.
Her husband is controlling. In interviews he interrupts all her questions. He made her give up her career before she even finished her studies to make her get married and then made her pregnant. This guy is BAD news.
He literally told her that if she wanted to dance, they would figure it out and make it work. She said she wouldn't change a thing. Why is everyone assuming they know more about these people than they know about themselve???
Lol this is the most absurd thing I've ever heard. If you look at audio it's clear Meghan Agnew lied on so much of this. And to take one interruption or chime in on a conversation and extrapolate that to its an abusive relationship is the most insane thing ever.
She wrote it in her own blog back then. How he was happy that she lost her pageant (which is already toxic) and then left her alone, 6 days a week from 7-10, without a car in a foreign country. She wrote how sad, lonely and depressed she was and the only person she was able to talk to was her baby. That's not a healthy or happy relationship dynamic@@whatshername4890
Do Trad Wifes use Modern Medical Health Care ?
And why shouldn’t they ??
What kind of question is that?
Yes. They have their kids in the hospital with an epidural, get them vaccinated, and send them to school. You won’t see them interviewed because they are average looking, average income, and they live in a house in the burbs. They don’t make sourdough or mozzarella cheese. The majority of trad wives are not religious fundamentalists. Nobody wants to interview them because there is no drama and thus no guarantee of clicks.
I grew up in the 1970's in a traditional family, we all were born in a hospital, had regular doctor's visits.
@@petermcinerney6418well if they can’t use birth control because it’s god’s decision than why go to a hospital for medical intervention? Why isn’t it ‘god’s choice’ when you get sick? Right.
Utah mountains. Arid??
People need to start having more kids - it's a good thing
Life is way more complicated than that. wow.
@@cmbergersct3492 I'm speaking in general terms
We don’t need more population growth, it’s difficult to manage as it is
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Children should not be raised in a herd. Too many siblings result is less attention and love.
What?? Yeah, like it's better to have just one child so he can grow up spoiled and socially awkward. Or maybe even child free - that's also fad nowadays...
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@@ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Availablepeople have female children too
I disagree. My dad comes from a large family of 9 kids and he and his parents and all his siblings are the most tight-knit and loving family you will ever meet.
LOL
Reminds me of I Love Lucy etc. promoting traditional gender roles by people who don't actually live that lifestyle.
who is paying for the childrens education and health care ?
Traditionally probably about 3 of the children would die of preventable illnesses
when you have an open cheque book to buy what ever you want land cars food & other resources it makes a big difference.
i fully support their right to have a big family & live as they choose but its a long way from being "Traditional".
They are multi millionaires.
He is very wealthy and this is literally for show. He never had any farming experience. Money is not a problem. He only let's her have a cleaner even though she has mentioned she'd like more help.
She has to homeschool them. In the room in which she hoped to be a ballet studio. Such a shame.
@@claireconolly8355 she doesn't homeschool them, they have a teacher from the community. She runs a multimillion dollar business as an equal partner to her husband.
What a horrible man someone free this woman seems like she's forced to be with him
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🤔Why Is It YOU can Choose to live Your Life the way YOU want but SHE Not...
Why do you think It's alright to shove Your Ideals down everyone else's throat.