🖥 PC Mag's 7 Forgotten N64 Classics (feat Ogre Battle 64, Star Wars Battle For Naboo and More)
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- PC Mag released their list of 7 forgotten n64 classics. They don't normally cover anything Nintendo 64 related so this was a surprise - which do you agree with?
uk.pcmag.com/gaming-gear/6970...
Beetle adventure racing Review
• Beetle Adventure Racin...
Body Harvest Review
• Body Harvest - Nintend...
Mystical Ninja Review
• Mystical Ninja Starrin...
Blast Corps Review
• Blast Corps - Nintendo...
Star Wars Battle For Naboo Review
• Star Wars : Battle For...
Space Station Silicon Valley Review
• Space Station Silicon ...
Ogre Battle 64 Review
• Ogre Battle 64 - Ninte...
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I loved battle for naboo! And I loved playing it with the cheat code that allowed you to listen to the developers say how the made the game as you played.
Yeah the commentary was very cool wasn’t it
I was addicted to Body Harvest. Took a punt on it when I saw it on sale at Beatties (remember that place?) Tough game but it kept me playing with the awesome music, open ended levels and vehicle variety.
Sad that the Ogre series will never be finished
Big shame
Battle for Naboo is criminally underated! A totally rebuilt graphics engine, better handling and many quality of life fixes.
Yeah just a shame it was based and released around a weak movie
Benj Edwards is a regular contributor to Retronauts podcast with Jeremy Parish. While he's pretty famous for collecting vintage PCs, he does know his stuff on console too.
Yeah a few people have mentioned that. Lgr is my retro pc guy and I don’t listen to gaming related podcasts so benj isn’t a professional I’m that aware of as we’re different circles it seems
Ogre Battle 64 is my fav - hope to stream it on Twitch soon
Good luck and happy campaigning!
Something you might want to keep your eye on that's not out yet is Symphony of War: The Nephilim Saga. From the looks of it it's the closest I've potentially seen to Ogre battle 64 in terms of gameplay.
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I'm a big fan of battle for naboo. It's essentially the lost rogue squadron game.
Did you like rogue squadron games on GC?
@@n64glennplant I love rogue leader but I felt rebel strike was a bit lacking especially with the on foot missions. But yeah I love the whole series. Battle for naboo is essentially rogue squadron 1.5 and I really like it as well.
All of these are well known classics to passionate N64 fans and hardcore 90's retro gamers.
But how much of a footprint did they leave outside our communities?
This list wasn't made for us. Think of any system's library you've been unfamiliar with, and what you'd have missed out on, if every list of forgotten classics assumed you were already in the know?
Also, the year of the article was the same year Rare Replay was released. Sometimes, as a content creator, you're just a victim of bad timing.
Haha yeah I know what you mean, sometimes I’ve timed some episodes and they’ve come back to haunt me
Beetle Adventure Racing might be forgotten by younger gamers, but those that were around when the N64 was relevant know it was a banger of a racing game. Wish someone got the Volkswagen license back and made a sequel. Anyway the game that is probably the most underrated and underappreciated here is Ogre Battle 64, it was a tactical RPG on a console that wasn't known for RPG's that I would hold up there with the best of the best PS1 RPG's of the time.
Yeah ogre battle 64 is one of the consoles best games, just a bit too niche interest I think to make it as popular as it deserves to be
People in Australia crapped on Beetle Adventure but loved HSV Adventure Racing, one of the very few PAL exclusives.
BAR is an absolute classic!
Totally agree.
Yeah but shouldn’t be on this list as no way is it forgotten - fans still ask for the sequel now! I’d love it to happen one day
When I said that I totally agreed, I meant that it is an absolute classic and therefore by no means forgotten.
I think one of the most forgotten games on the N64 was Stunt Racer 64. Sure people like us, die hard fans of the platform, will know all about it but for most other people the game never existed, mostly due to it's Blockbuster exclusivity. I myself only learnt about the game in the mid 2000s reading a forum thread in one of these dark corners of the internet back in the day, and I only ever had a chance to play it through emulation.
Glenn: "Maybe I play too much N64, what do you think?"
Me: "No such thing, mate!"
I’m an N sixty-whore 😂
Benj Edwards is a common guest on the Retronauts podcast! Super cool guy :)
Yup someone else mentioned his modern stuff below too. Not a person I’m familiar with myself
One game I think is a forgotten classic is Shadowgate 64. It got mixed reviews at the time, and the series went nowhere after that, but it's a game I still enjoy playing.
Here, forgotten means underrated, not on everybody's generic top ten lists or Nintendo published. I never knew about Beetle Racing back then. The revamped cars were a big deal but it was all about DKR, Rush, Mario Kart from my perspective
That’s interesting, again I’ve mentioned before that in my school it was only well off kids who had n64 as those who weren’t that well off for ps1 and had it chipped to play £2 copied games. I was fortunate to have both but from what went down where I lived BAR was a very popular game. It’s interesting to see what different areas had popular games back then
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There we go ❤️
well done Glenn. You never cease on blowing my mind with new N64 content
Thank you that’s much appreciated
I loved body harvest so much. It blew my mind that you could get in and out of different vehicles, that was such a big thing for me as a kid lol
Beetle adventure racing was awesome. The track designs were superb.
Yeah some of the best courses on the console imho
I think a forgotten gem is Turok 3. I think a lot of people didn't even know there was even a 3rd game. So maybe it's not so much a forgotten gem and more a hidden game.
I think they meant that at the time, beetle racing was not considered a classic. To be fair, I remember it being loved by it's supporters, the general public did sleep on beetle racing at the time. But maybe I'm remembering things wrong, which is possible
*to be fair, WHILE I remember...
I got my first PC in the second half of the 90s. It was a Pentium II 233 Mhz.
So I never really played any PC ports on the N64 or vice-versa, since I had both systems. And as a kid/teenager you really have to focus where you put your money. hah
Goemon is a great entry on this list tbh, because while it did have kind of a cult following, I think a lot of people just didn't give it a chance since it was "very Japanese". Goemon was one of my most rented games ever, it was lovely.
No clue what Blast Corps does on this list, it's not forgotten at all.
However, years later I played the Turok remaster by Nightdive Studios and it was absolutely wonderful and refreshing to play through the game again.
Yeah nightdive have some great remaster works…I think MVG said he’s done work for them in the past which is also cool
@@n64glennplant Oh, I wasn't aware of that. I do know he likes their rereleases however.
Turok 2 was also a nice remaster on the PC with a lot of options.
I think the people at Nightdive are very much aware of what gamers want, but also understand how to expand a game on a technical level.
I also played their Strife, System Shock 2 and some of the Text Murphy remasters they made.
I would’ve personally added Rocket: Robot on Wheels to the list. I know Sucker Punch is now one of the leading AAA developers. But their first game, when they were but a small team of ex-Microsoft employees, was a brilliant platformer that never got the sales it deserved.
Now that Nintendo’s apparently fixing a lot of the problems with the Switch’s N64 emulation, I really hope Rocket, Space Station Silicon Valley and Body Harvest see release on the service. That would motivate me to finally subscribe.
I actually had no idea space station Silicon Valley was on the pc. Guess I learned something today.
To be fair with people who are less experienced with a console's lineup, especially younger players, it's pretty common for them to think that only the absolutely most well known games are the only ones that are worth playing on that console, I have not heard few times that the N64 only has the Nintendo and Rare games and nothing else, or seen people who are only familiar with the Sonic games when thinking on the Sega Genesis.
Well done Glenn. How about a video giving a brief overview of all the pal exclusive n64’titles?
Glenn i love your N64 Videos! Greetings from Germany/Stuttgart
Hydro Thunder seems to always be lost in the racing shuffle. I thought it looked excellent for 64, and packed plenty of challenges and content.
Of all these games, i recently got Blast Corps and played Battle for Naboo when little on PC, besides that, all the other games i haven't played sadly, but have watched a little, all are on my important list.
Ogre Battle 64 is available on the Wii U for some reason.
Glenn Plant the number 1 review guy of all time for the N64, period!
Any chance of adding a playlist with your everdrive stuff? Maybe adding new content with reviews of playable games on real hardware like Smash Bros Remix, Virtual Pro Wrestling 2 Freem edition, Goldeneye/TND mods etc like you did recently with Mario Kart Amped Up.
N64 beta project playlist 😇
@@n64glennplant Cool I've seen quite a few of those videos but never been through the whole playlist, Cheers.
I agree with Blast Corps and Body Harvest, they got overshadowed by other more well known games which is a shame because they are good.
I loved these games in particular, the more obscure games were always more interesting to me besides the racing ones lol
I will say Glen Duke nukem 64 on the PC was a awesome idea
I haven’t played it for ages but really should
@@n64glennplant it is so fun
I'm surprised Hey You Pikachu is not on there.
yesss!! the glenn moment of the week!!!
Thank you 🙏🏼
You should check out 40 winks for n64 I think it came out like 3 years ago but it wasn't bad at all. Wish it would have came out back in the day.
I reviewed that about 7 or 8 years ago 👍 just search my channel it was an episode of the n64 beta project
@@n64glennplant oh yeah forgot you had other play list lol I just watched the 270 something in the review list last year when I was buying my n64. I was going to collect games but I just went with a all in one cart.
Body harvest was the only game I had that I didn’t complete. I got stuck. Think it was a bug. And I didn’t want to restart it as I spent hours on it. It did get very hard
Yeah there are a couple of places in the game where you can lock yourself out of progression - tough bugs!
Glenn cheats codes can make a game so much better or ruin the whole experience of playing through and collecting/earning bonuses. Maybe some videos in the future about how cheats for some games are a game changer & what you recommend? Eg Mortal Kombat Mythologies is one of the worst games I have ever played - very difficult and frustrating until the cheats at least made it playable. That would be a cool playlist for you to do - N64 Games with Cheats.
Silicon Valley is typically one of those lost gems that is based around a concept that can easily spawn a couple of games and be interesting nowadays. Just like Blast Corps it's got that quirky kind of creativity that was a product of it's time which u rarely see today. I'd say a more forgotten classic is the second goemon game, which i absolutely loved as well, again a perfect soundtrack but u had to like the 2.5D gameplay though.
Once Rogue Leader came out people couldn't go back to Battle for Naboo. There was just too big of a difference in graphics and visual presentation. So if you didn't buy it in that first year it was released you would see rogue leader, even if you didn't have a gamecube, and decide it's not worth your cash.
quake 1 no contest. i had silicon valley, my dad kicked off cause it only had like a 70 percent score back then, it is indeed great
Yeah sssv is way more than 70%
@@n64glennplant its been fun seeing you call out alot of these reviews from 20 years ago lol. Keep up the good work
As much as I enjoyed certain GTA games (notably Vice City and San Andreas) I often wonder how cool it would have been if Rockstar/DMA took the Body Harvest IP and developed it in future generations.
Time travelling alien fighters with open world maps and a variety of vehicles to drive/pilot. Why did they abandon it?
"So let's take a look at that list today and see if our PC Gaming Overlords have any interesting points to make on our beloved cart based console" -Glenn
Me: *holds up an N64 controller and Switch*
VIVA LA RESISTANCE! lol
In answer to your question, not really sure best PC to N64 port, only one I can think of might be Hexen as I enjoy medieval fantasy setting and the graphics. Personally, even though it's critically mixed and was also on Playstation, I think Fighting For 64 is a fun forgotten co-op game. Loved playing it with my brother and dad when I was a kid.
Hexen! Now that’s a game I haven’t played for years!
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Shame about those games hitting the console late on in 00 & 02 I think a lot of N64 gamers were hitting 16+ so times were changing but we still loved the N64 having spent so much time with it. Think MM, PD, Paper Mario, SW Naboo l, Conker were the last of my 64 era before leaving school and going college and my interests changing well .. to girls and seeing what bars and pubs I could go to at 16/17
Are they any better PC to N64 converts than Doom 64? Does Doom 64 even count, given that it's really its own beast? I also liked StarCraft, but that was only until I finally got a PC and saw how much better it was on its home platform.
Well technically doom 64 isn’t a port as it’s a unique game but I think I get what you mean - doom is a classic on pc and the doom 64 game was way better than most of the other pc to n64 moves
1999 a late release? N64 games were still coming out after the Gamecube had already been released.
Exactly what I thought, I think 1999 was perhaps the peak best year for the console
@@n64glennplant Maybe they said it because it was the year that the Dreamcast came out, making the N64/PSX already seem "last gen".
You mean when rockstar are done with re-releasing GTA V !
Haha that too 😄
Hey you Pikachu!
Pardon! 😄
Kinda wish Mickey’s Speedway USA gets more love. In my opinion it’s amazing and I’d choose it over Mario kart 64 and Diddy Kong Racing any day
Whoa for me it would be after dkr but that’s because dkr is one of my all time fav games
@@n64glennplant don’t get me wrong I still think Diddy Kong Racing is really fun but for me it was also really challenging. I love how easy Mickey’s Speedway USA is and I personally find the music better. I also really like how characters will talk to each other during the races, it adds a bit of life to it even if it’s just basic quips
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That list is admittedly a tad unimaginative and obvious. I think that Mystical Ninja (it didn't sell particularly well in the UK with that £60 price tag!, true, but it simply has too much crossover goodwill and too many cult fans on the N64 for this sort of list) and/or Silicon Valley could have easily been replaced by stuff like Bomberman 64, Glover and Mischief Makers, for instance.
And I can't deny that Blast Corps is the oddest choice of them all: it has been re-issued on that Rare compilation for the Xbox, it was a first-party title (thus it seems no less obscure than, say, Snowboard Kids!) and it was one of the cheaper early N64 titles at £40, so it really isn't one of the rarer (pun not intended!) games on the second-hand market, whether in 1999 or 2022. Tetrisphere would have a MUCH better choice if they were looking for an early game at the £40 price level that didn't get a ton of attention.
But, still, I don't think that this is such a bad list. It's not on a N64-dedicated website, so this is clearly aimed at gamers that really like to game but perhaps didn't own the console at the time or have only played it on a more casual basis with friends and family, which makes it a more reasonable list under those circumstances. I certainly think that there's room online for a very basic entry-level list like this one on PCGamer AND one that's more aimed at keener N64 gamers on something like Eurogamer or IGN.
Beetle Adventure Racing doesn't seem too out of place, for instance, as it just comes across as a game that has a more passive cult fandom that some of the other hidden gems for the N64 and there aren't that many third-party exclusive racers on the console (I mean: Re-Volt, Micro Machines, Roadsters, Hydro Thunder, Hot Wheels etc were all multi-platform).
And BAR never seemed like a game that was very widely distributed in the UK as, unlike Mystical Ninja and Body Harvest et al, I can't remember ever seeing many, if any, second-hand copies of BAR on market stalls and independent gaming stores. Stuff like Mario Party and Castlevania 64 et al seemed a lot more common in the likes of Game and Electronic Boutique, too, so BAR genuinely came across as a very marginal and niche game (in terms of commercial appeal and success!) to me in 1999, despite all of the positive reviews that I read in magazines etc!
I could say the same about Top Gear Overdrive and the Rush series, both of which were just as elusive as BAR in my area, so I might have been REALLY bad at finding those sort of games as a 12-year-old and I'll happily be corrected when there are others who have more knowledge and/or better memories than me.
It's also clear that the writer went for safe and objective options, which rules out some of the more controversial yet perfectly viable candidates like Buck Bumble, Chameleon Twist, Cruis'n USA and Wetrix that might have more subjective and limited appeal. And it could be argued that some of the more credible hidden games (I'm thinking of stuff like Virtual Pool 64, NBA Courtside, Fighters Destiny, Extreme-G etc) are a tad generic for this sort of list, so I totally get those sort of omissions, too.
Virtual pool 64 is 🔥, such an under rated game
@@n64glennplant I'm an absolute sucker for a pool game (arcade racers and footie games are still my favourite genres, mind!), so I'm in complete agreement! :)
What? No Telocation Gemini?!?
This list is quite controversial and debatable.
I thought so too which is why it makes a good video topic for discussion.
@@n64glennplant It happens that the title of the article is tricky because, by definition, if it is a classic it is not forgettable, and if it is forgettable it is not a classic. That's why I find it difficult to think of "classics" that have been forgotten, at least for true fans of the N64.
There is any app or anything to play PlayStation 3 in a Android
You may have better luck asking on a ps3 channel fella ?
@@n64glennplant sorry
Love me so ogre battle 64. Bought it years ago complete in box in like new condition for around $130. Seeing the huge inflation on every game that is considered “retro” I couldn’t believe how it’s in the mid to high 300’s now
And that would still be considered a good price! Prices have gone nuts lately
Ogre Battle 64 was one of the titles that finally convinced me to invest in Everdrives for my consoles. The prices of these old carts has gotten ridiculous.
@@nobel11 everdrives are really the way to go these days. It’s nice to play worms Armageddon on real hardware without being robbed blind
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Ogre Battle 64 is the best 64 games hands down
Are you looking forward to the new tactics ogre ?
@@n64glennplant I actually have never tried those games. They look different in style compared to the SNES and 64 port games
@@n64glennplant Ok....I just saw the trailer and change my mind completely. When I heard the music it hit me like a ton of bricks. I cant wait for that game.
Diakatana lol
I've never been keen on the terms "Hidden Gem", "Obscure", or "Forgotten" used for video games, because much of it largely depends between groups of people and everything usually falls its own niche now. It can be somewhat irritating when people seem to place more value on things only or specifically because it's something that others don't know about, and then those same people get mad when that "obscure" game becomes popular and isn't considered obscure anymore.
That being said, I appreciate all the work you do on these videos to help raise awareness of some great games for others to find. The N64 really does have more to offer than some realize.
Forgotten classic Mario 64
Blast Corps?? Great game but lmao
One of the reasons Body Harvest wasn't a success is that it's a butt ugly game with terrible art direction. It really is ugly, which probably turned a lot of people off.
But after playing it to death i can really say i wouldn't want it any other way. It's weird looks add to the 50's alien movie vibe and the overall uglyness add to the depressing atmosphere which is elevated even more by the AMAZING music.
Or maybe it's the nostalgia talking, i don't know.
This whole list reaks of someone having googled "n64 hidden gems" and then cobbling together an article based on Wikipedia articles.
I'm not a fan of the combative tone you've taken in this episode, Glenn. Benj is a respected writer and regular contributor to Retronauts. I'm surprised you're not familiar with his work, and I'm shocked you think it's okay to refer to him as "Benji" throughout the video. You know how hard this stuff is to get right. Please consider taking a different approach the next time you decide to review another content creator's work. You're better than this.
Benj E not benjie was what I was saying 👍
Cancel culture has no place here. Everyone has the right to feel offended