Suggested format: 1) ride the bike and give some feedback on handling / road feel etc 2) have a comparison shootout video with various other bikes like this (tarmac sl7 / foil 2021 / system six / aero road etc) - maybe TT section at a set power/ climb / general rider feedback on stiffness etc
I just love Ollie's Italian pronounciation, he sounds so much like Super Mario.... I can also confirm that whatever you say in Italian, you have to say it while gesturing (a lot) :) Greetings from Varese!!
Lovely looking machine, and a wonderful paint scheme, as you'd expect from Wilier. However, the bespoke bearings thing is a bit of a concern. That'll be an expensive and slow fix.
7.09kg, very nice! Wilier's design and paint look so sweet these days. They're on a good run. Interestingly, no price was mentioned. I'm thinking at least $12k Australian. Ouch!
@@matteocristini6221 I think not. Bikes that cost so much should have the best parts, that is carbon wheels, disc brakes... Bikes for around 2000 eur? Cheap carbon wheels and cheap carbon frame with disc brakes will not going to help you ride faster...
'their own fine headset bearing', as opposed to 'stock oem bearings' = Very expensive, limited to bike manucturer, bearings. Oh dear, 'must have a word with a morgage lender..
@@grimp53 the probably are just a different standard so yeah, they will be more expensive, but not ridiculously overprices if you don't source them at willier
Same reason Chris King sucks, but you can't tell an idiot any different. When you have to go a shop and order the part you need you know you won't be riding your bike again for two weeks.
Unmistakably, a very nice bike, but definitely for the wish-list only! As I just checked, it's: Complete bikes start at £7,470 & top out at £11,160 for a build with Campagnolo Super Record EPS and Bora WTO 33 Disc wheels. A frameset will set you back £4,500.
I'm happy it has hydraulic disc brakes. Carrying that battery, compressor and tank in my camelback was very tiring. And... proprietary bearings in the head tube. Built in obsolescence at its finest. Now to find a Willier dealer in Canuckistan.
It's really beautiful. But how about the price? 😳 And I guess proprietary parts all over make a repair difficult, takes longer to order the parts and is costly.
I'm still trying to figure out how the forks lining up with the rear triangle has any effect at all with those pesky legs in the way. Maybe if you put it on top of an F1 car and send it down the straight at 200 MPH into a perfect headwind... Otherwise there's some serious shark jumping going on here.
Grand Tour winning bikes this season: TdF - Colnago, rim brakes Giro - Pinarello, rim brakes Vuelta - Bianchi, rim brakes Putting the aero cliches aside, I think Wilier "make" (the frames come from China) beautiful bikes but it annoys me that rim brakes are only becoming an option on low-end bikes. Yes, i'm biased as my Italian bikes run Campy mechanical rim brake group sets and I wouldn't change them but I do think the consumer should have the choice.
Rim brakes dont mean everything....look at the World Championship, it was won on a disc brake bike....look at all the Liège-Bastonne-Liège, Gent wevelgem and La Flèche Brabançonne....It's not because you have rim brakes that you are faster on a race. You can put a shitty rider on a super expensive rim brake bike and have im fcked by a good rider on a 2000€ disc brake bike... The bike doesn't make you faster if you dont have the legs to do it. And as a pro rider once said "In a race you rarely need you brakes", and I'll had, "but when you do need'em, you better have the best available to you."
@@theobuzat9091 Agreed, it's always the engine that makes the difference. My main point is that as customers we should retain the choice particularly at the top-end where "off the peg" bikes are now costing 10k.
@@paulhawkins6771 Now that I agree with, but I'm not really mad at things shifting towards disc brakes....It's not going to stop and rim brakes are going to be really hard to find execpted on really low-end bikes or really high-end bikes (Colnago, Pinarello like you said).
Women world champion : SL7 disk brakes Men World Champion : SL7 disk brakes I ride a rim brakes ;) i like it because its light... the only default i find in rim brakes is that im not totaly confident in carbon rim for wet braking... so i have light aluminium wheels edit : sorry i answer without read others comments ;) i agree, i want a choice : rim or disk. Brand push disk, so wheels manufacturers focus on disk wheels... and it became difficult to find new rim brake wheels with a good braking surface. Look at the new Zipp 303 (or 302 i don't know) they are disk brakes only :(
Bikes going the way of disposable electronics. With higher integration and more custom parts, a few years down the road, toss your bikes in the recycle bin or trade them in and spend money for a new one. Repairs? Forget about it. It's inevitable -- most consumers don't give a damn and will flock to these beautiful machines like they did with the slick consumer electronics; they complain that the Giant TCR 2021, which is also aero and comparatively lightweight if not lighter, looks outdated.
price levels of new bikes are equal to big motorcycles these days...... what happened, and do we just accept this ridiculous situation? For me it is very simple: I don’t feel I need a new bike. My bike is 5 years old and it rides fantastic. I think I do not need a new bike for at least the upcoming 5 years.
I'll be honest - I like the look and love that velvet red paint job. But 5 grand for the frame kit alone is a very hefty price tag. There seems to be no limit to prices these days....
and without the cyclist on the bike... Wind tunnel is a commercial things... its only a good point for the duo cyclist+bike. Even if we take 2 cyclists and the same bike, the results will be different because the most aero drag is from the cyclist, not the bike.
How do I go about bike fitting a bike with an integrated cockpit. DoI leave the steerer long? Does Willier limit the proprietary spacers that fit under the stem/bar? How do you fit a bike were the bar/stem is one find piece???? There's nothing to do but buy a whole new cockpit. Try explaining that in #GCN Tech
Shimano on Italian bikes is just fine. It’s nonsense that Italian bikes should have Campy components. One more thing - did I hear the dirty P word? Proprietary headset bearings? That is going to be a nightmare to track down a few years from now. 😕
They've dropped the Cento 10 Pro after two years and dropped the Cento 10 after 3 years and before that the Cento Air, imagine how fast this versions going to last. I had to warranty my Cento 1 (2015) this past year and they didn't have a frame set to give me so I had to buy a discount a Cento10 Pro instead. It's ben sitting in my bike room for the past 5 months and I'm thinking of selling it so I'm not stuck with proprietary fittings are hard to source when the time comes. I wish they'd stick with one model and not make it hard to own a bike for more than 3 years. Can't handle the cost and the depreciation
@@juancamilorodriguez8134 I pulled the bottom bracket shell out from the frame. There is a metal sleeve that is bonded to the frame and the bonding released and the entire bb shifted toward the drive side. Willier gave me a frame at a discount since the Cento 1 isn't available anymore. Now I'm thinking of selling the new frame and Alabarda bars so I can buy something I can afford to build out.
The white swatches and their angles look like adaptations from the previous designs of the Ciöcc Morpho which I have. Do a Ciöcc ISB video. It gets its tubes from Taiwan but, hey, most do, sorry to say.
Great looking bike unfortunately it comes with a press fit BB. Based on my bad experience with the Trek press fit BB, it's a NO GO for me. My Madone BB had to glued in just after the 1st BB change, after only 1 year the frame was done around the BB! No I think about a Specialized bike with a threaded BB now.
Started with pedals...then it was missing them....then they came back...then it was weighed without them (hence why you carried it to the office I presume), .... then they returned for the end shot.... who nicked them and kept giving them back?
@@jauxed yeah. It says paid right on the content (may be a US based widget as it’s the law here.). Their thumbnails usually do have AD in them visibly.
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What did you think of this brand new bike from Wilier? Let us know in the comments 👇
Can't afford it.
Nice. Definitely would go Ramato for the color.
Awesome!
Wilier is like Ferrari, both look great in red.
whats the size that ollie was presenting
Missed the part where this was a giveaway
We too.. :D
@@WilierTriestina :D Full send 😂
Suggested format:
1) ride the bike and give some feedback on handling / road feel etc
2) have a comparison shootout video with various other bikes like this (tarmac sl7 / foil 2021 / system six / aero road etc) - maybe TT section at a set power/ climb / general rider feedback on stiffness etc
Maybe you're new to GCN? These first looks are sponcon -- they're promotional content, not reviews.
@@erich8258 yeah. It’s all long lingering looks at tubes. Borderline leering.
It's an advert, the equivalent of QVC for bikes
And all this within hours of release!
@@JPLTF373 the check cleared.
So dazzled was Ollie by its beauty, he couldn’t tell right from left
or right from front! (8:04 - "the right fork leg looks to be almost twice the size of the front one"). He was clearly totally disorient(at)ed.
my right!
Definitely one of the most beautiful bikes I have seen lately. If Ollie only had the version with Campagnolo... 👍👍
I just love Ollie's Italian pronounciation, he sounds so much like Super Mario.... I can also confirm that whatever you say in Italian, you have to say it while gesturing (a lot) :) Greetings from Varese!!
Lovely looking machine, and a wonderful paint scheme, as you'd expect from Wilier. However, the bespoke bearings thing is a bit of a concern. That'll be an expensive and slow fix.
One of the most beautiful bikes I have ever seen!
7.09kg, very nice! Wilier's design and paint look so sweet these days. They're on a good run. Interestingly, no price was mentioned. I'm thinking at least $12k Australian. Ouch!
Wilier is making awesome bikes lately, bravo.
Amazing, reduces the frontal area to reduce drag.. then I sit up..
Useful fact: Italian bikes won all 3 grand tours this year, but they were all rim brake
But but but....FAKE NEWS!
Useful fact: I don't race and I personally prefer disc brakes. I agree we should be given the choice though
Yes, true, and all 3 of them quite obsolete models (quite heavy and not so aero)... So bikes don't make such a difference in bike racing 🤣
@@matteocristini6221 I think not. Bikes that cost so much should have the best parts, that is carbon wheels, disc brakes... Bikes for around 2000 eur? Cheap carbon wheels and cheap carbon frame with disc brakes will not going to help you ride faster...
@@TeoSluga obsolete! Hahahahaha
Best looking bike on the market hands down
I am having a Wilier Zero SLR built up now...should be riding, HOPEFULLY, this weekend.
8:13, 8:25
ollie forgot to distinguish basic directions because of this such beautiful bike.
This is my dream bike. Love Willier bikes
Another bike that I can't afford 😂😂😂
Wilier Triestina best logo and brand name in cycling
So incredibly proud that I actually own a Wilier Filante SLR in red 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
'their own fine headset bearing', as opposed to 'stock oem bearings' = Very expensive, limited to bike manucturer, bearings. Oh dear, 'must have a word with a morgage lender..
Non standard bearings would make me back away. Replacements will be a pain in the ...
@@grimp53 the probably are just a different standard so yeah, they will be more expensive, but not ridiculously overprices if you don't source them at willier
Run A Mile!
Same reason Chris King sucks, but you can't tell an idiot any different. When you have to go a shop and order the part you need you know you won't be riding your bike again for two weeks.
Italian bikes are always just so beautiful. Even their motorcycles like ducati and mv augusta..... so so so atheistically pleasing
Thanks
yes but their electrics were crap ! and over priced
Atheistically pleasing? Best not give one to the Pope then!
That's impressively light for an aero/disc combo. Never thought I'd say that sentence.
Unmistakably, a very nice bike, but definitely for the wish-list only! As I just checked, it's: Complete bikes start at £7,470 & top out at £11,160 for a build with Campagnolo Super Record EPS and Bora WTO 33 Disc wheels. A frameset will set you back £4,500.
I REALLY LOVE THESE KIND OF VIDEOS. REALLY FUN TO WATCH.
Will it have a Dustin klein edition?
I'm happy it has hydraulic disc brakes. Carrying that battery, compressor and tank in my camelback was very tiring.
And... proprietary bearings in the head tube. Built in obsolescence at its finest.
Now to find a Willier dealer in Canuckistan.
Imagine how much poutine you can buy for that money.
@7:50 dont those leg things protect the seat stays from wind !?
It's really beautiful. But how about the price? 😳 And I guess proprietary parts all over make a repair difficult, takes longer to order the parts and is costly.
best bike out there...complete, has everything tat you need.
Look at that wilier elite bottle cage 👌🏻
Glad to see it is only 11,300 Euros. I am going to buy 2. I will get a black one to use as my winter hack.
Love that bike! What a color!
I'm still trying to figure out how the forks lining up with the rear triangle has any effect at all with those pesky legs in the way. Maybe if you put it on top of an F1 car and send it down the straight at 200 MPH into a perfect headwind... Otherwise there's some serious shark jumping going on here.
Grand Tour winning bikes this season:
TdF - Colnago, rim brakes
Giro - Pinarello, rim brakes
Vuelta - Bianchi, rim brakes
Putting the aero cliches aside, I think Wilier "make" (the frames come from China) beautiful bikes but it annoys me that rim brakes are only becoming an option on low-end bikes. Yes, i'm biased as my Italian bikes run Campy mechanical rim brake group sets and I wouldn't change them but I do think the consumer should have the choice.
Vuelta - Bianchi, rim brakes
Rim brakes dont mean everything....look at the World Championship, it was won on a disc brake bike....look at all the Liège-Bastonne-Liège, Gent wevelgem and La Flèche Brabançonne....It's not because you have rim brakes that you are faster on a race. You can put a shitty rider on a super expensive rim brake bike and have im fcked by a good rider on a 2000€ disc brake bike... The bike doesn't make you faster if you dont have the legs to do it. And as a pro rider once said "In a race you rarely need you brakes", and I'll had, "but when you do need'em, you better have the best available to you."
@@theobuzat9091 Agreed, it's always the engine that makes the difference. My main point is that as customers we should retain the choice particularly at the top-end where "off the peg" bikes are now costing 10k.
@@paulhawkins6771 Now that I agree with, but I'm not really mad at things shifting towards disc brakes....It's not going to stop and rim brakes are going to be really hard to find execpted on really low-end bikes or really high-end bikes (Colnago, Pinarello like you said).
Women world champion : SL7 disk brakes
Men World Champion : SL7 disk brakes
I ride a rim brakes ;) i like it because its light... the only default i find in rim brakes is that im not totaly confident in carbon rim for wet braking... so i have light aluminium wheels
edit : sorry i answer without read others comments ;) i agree, i want a choice : rim or disk. Brand push disk, so wheels manufacturers focus on disk wheels... and it became difficult to find new rim brake wheels with a good braking surface. Look at the new Zipp 303 (or 302 i don't know) they are disk brakes only :(
They are out here playing lo-fi beats. It got me into study mode and I felt like taking notes
Yeah, proprietary stuff is really cool, especially bearings...
Gorgeous bike
How do you manage to sound Russian when you're doing an Italian accent Ollie?! XD
I like wilier 🔥
Complete bikes start at £7,470
that's exactly the weight of the bike in grams if you put pedals on it.
@@80robs92 oh, then I won't spend the extra on the heavier SRAM groups
@@Mike0 Well if its the SRAM Red 22 without etap and axs stuff, then you'll actually get a pretty decent and lightweight bike 😁
Beautiful bike - out of my league - will stick to canyon
Maybe I speak for everyone here or not but either way, I want to know if this bicycle can fit 32mm tires?
Love the colour!!!!
Love the music 😊👌🏻
Filante of course. When are going to do a side by side comparaison between the Filante, the Ostro Vam and SL7 and maybe the Emonda? :)
"Engineering their own components" might mean you're screwed a few years down the line.
I was hoping someone had the intelligence to point that out. A very important point made.
Bikes going the way of disposable electronics. With higher integration and more custom parts, a few years down the road, toss your bikes in the recycle bin or trade them in and spend money for a new one. Repairs? Forget about it. It's inevitable -- most consumers don't give a damn and will flock to these beautiful machines like they did with the slick consumer electronics; they complain that the Giant TCR 2021, which is also aero and comparatively lightweight if not lighter, looks outdated.
A beautiful bike!
Bella macchina!❤️⚜️
"Shut up! And take my money!" Oh God Ollie trys extra hard to sell - nothin spezial - here. :)
Lost interest as soon as you said about special bearings. Special = expensive
YES. Italian-american bike companies think all their customers are brain dead millionaires....
Wauw, and the weight, just wauw
Beautiful bike! 😍
Round tubes! who would have thought?
Wilier 🔝🔝🔝👍
LENGTH: 114 mm, WIDTH: 420 mm, REACH: 72 mm, DROP: 130 mm. @4:38 I'm not sure what those numbers mean.
Colnago won 2020 TDF, Pinarello won 2020 Giro, Bianchi won 2020 Vuelta (all rim brakes). Now will Willier take one (with disc)?
price levels of new bikes are equal to big motorcycles these days...... what happened, and do we just accept this ridiculous situation?
For me it is very simple: I don’t feel I need a new bike. My bike is 5 years old and it rides fantastic. I think I do not need a new bike for at least the upcoming 5 years.
Same situatoon over here for me
very nice. i will take two.
Great video!
I'll be honest - I like the look and love that velvet red paint job. But 5 grand for the frame kit alone is a very hefty price tag. There seems to be no limit to prices these days....
how about the bb area? tolerances?
No tire clearance mentioned.
I was specifically looking for this :(
The Filante SLR has 28mm tires but you have up to 30mm
Will stick with my rim brake Willier, probably the last one
Dont worry a few more years down the road, when everyone is on disk brake, rim brake will suddenly be better than disk brake again...
With rim brakes, that would be one of the lightest bikes on the market.
Is that the new specialisima from bianchi? Looks very similar but still jaw dropping beautiful!
What size frame is this, am curious about the specs for the 114 mm stem.
you meant to say the left fork is beefed up correct?
2:49 already scratches. How long will the paint last?
It's a nice bike and all that but the explanation of its advantagous design suggests we all only cycle in wind tunnels 😐
and without the cyclist on the bike...
Wind tunnel is a commercial things... its only a good point for the duo cyclist+bike. Even if we take 2 cyclists and the same bike, the results will be different because the most aero drag is from the cyclist, not the bike.
Ollie, go out and join Franny Cade on his Filante so you two can compare notes! (as lockdown allows, of course...)
Stunning looking bike...how many people can afford it???
Custom head tube bearings = Replacement problems. Beautiful bike.......I'm out
nice, odd that I saw a Filante vs Superleggera from GNC. I can´t find anymore. Today
Wilier Zero SLR for me
This new trend of lightweight aero is quite interesting
predictable*
@@craigelliott1989 In terms of tech advancement, it's cutting edge. The price however....
Can you test the new De Rosa Merak at GCN by any chance?
I pondered about an aero bike that'll flicks air away from the draggy fleshy bits of the rider. Will that improve Cd?
At that price don't think you will be seeing many on the club Sunday ride or any.
I want to know where we can buy the GCN coats?
Finally Hub soundcheck at 9:36 !
Not that I can afford a 5 figure bike, but is there stock available inside 12 months?
How do I go about bike fitting a bike with an integrated cockpit. DoI leave the steerer long? Does Willier limit the proprietary spacers that fit under the stem/bar? How do you fit a bike were the bar/stem is one find piece???? There's nothing to do but buy a whole new cockpit. Try explaining that in #GCN Tech
Shimano on Italian bikes is just fine. It’s nonsense that Italian bikes should have Campy components. One more thing - did I hear the dirty P word? Proprietary headset bearings? That is going to be a nightmare to track down a few years from now. 😕
They've dropped the Cento 10 Pro after two years and dropped the Cento 10 after 3 years and before that the Cento Air, imagine how fast this versions going to last. I had to warranty my Cento 1 (2015) this past year and they didn't have a frame set to give me so I had to buy a discount a Cento10 Pro instead. It's ben sitting in my bike room for the past 5 months and I'm thinking of selling it so I'm not stuck with proprietary fittings are hard to source when the time comes. I wish they'd stick with one model and not make it hard to own a bike for more than 3 years. Can't handle the cost and the depreciation
@@westvanman1 what happened to your Cento 1? WHy dud you warranty it?
@@juancamilorodriguez8134 I pulled the bottom bracket shell out from the frame. There is a metal sleeve that is bonded to the frame and the bonding released and the entire bb shifted toward the drive side. Willier gave me a frame at a discount since the Cento 1 isn't available anymore. Now I'm thinking of selling the new frame and Alabarda bars so I can buy something I can afford to build out.
The white swatches and their angles look like adaptations from the previous designs of the Ciöcc Morpho which I have. Do a Ciöcc ISB video. It gets its tubes from Taiwan but, hey, most do, sorry to say.
Great looking bike unfortunately it comes with a press fit BB. Based on my bad experience with the Trek press fit BB, it's a NO GO for me. My Madone BB had to glued in just after the 1st BB change, after only 1 year the frame was done around the BB! No I think about a Specialized bike with a threaded BB now.
Thoughts on Van Rysel bikes?
The moment Van Rysel pays GCN to do so
Started with pedals...then it was missing them....then they came back...then it was weighed without them (hence why you carried it to the office I presume), .... then they returned for the end shot.... who nicked them and kept giving them back?
I like it but that front axle lever sticks out a bit
wish i had a road bike
Ahh right after Francis Cade's review on his ...isnit purple or green Filante?
2nd look 😂 straight after Francis Cades video.
this isn't even a review nor 'first look', its just a regurgitation of marketing script BS
What else would you chat about on a first look? (GCN don't do reviews, BTW)
So u mean Willier paid GCN to 'first look' this?
@@jauxed yeah. It says paid right on the content (may be a US based widget as it’s the law here.). Their thumbnails usually do have AD in them visibly.
@@jauxed Yes, quite likely. Most of GCN product placements are paid partnerships
I didn't know that, thank you guys.
Wilier; we heve a new bike!!!
Me; hold my ouzo!!!
Ollie is selling so hard, he probably gets a commission. It's ok Ollie, we want it, it's pretty, even though none of what you said was really true
Link to enter the giveaway for it? Awesome bikes from Wilier as usual
Willier founded on 1906 lol, that's old? Why is no one talking about Brazilian brand Caloi then, 1898?
Looks like a Scott Addict RC
Love it ... would be better with campag ... Shimano is all marketing...
8:03 Funny looking Carabeneri car...oh wait your in the UK. My bad.
and then there's me... just waiting around for 'trickle down technology'............
One day us normal folk will get integrated bar and stem too 🤣
Ditto for me as well. It is a beautiful bike, For that kind of money, I will wait.
pagani makes steer tubes?