Suggested format: 1) ride the bike and give some feedback on handling / road feel etc 2) have a comparison shootout video with various other bikes like this (tarmac sl7 / foil 2021 / system six / aero road etc) - maybe TT section at a set power/ climb / general rider feedback on stiffness etc
@@matteocristini6221 I think not. Bikes that cost so much should have the best parts, that is carbon wheels, disc brakes... Bikes for around 2000 eur? Cheap carbon wheels and cheap carbon frame with disc brakes will not going to help you ride faster...
I just love Ollie's Italian pronounciation, he sounds so much like Super Mario.... I can also confirm that whatever you say in Italian, you have to say it while gesturing (a lot) :) Greetings from Varese!!
Lovely looking machine, and a wonderful paint scheme, as you'd expect from Wilier. However, the bespoke bearings thing is a bit of a concern. That'll be an expensive and slow fix.
7.09kg, very nice! Wilier's design and paint look so sweet these days. They're on a good run. Interestingly, no price was mentioned. I'm thinking at least $12k Australian. Ouch!
'their own fine headset bearing', as opposed to 'stock oem bearings' = Very expensive, limited to bike manucturer, bearings. Oh dear, 'must have a word with a morgage lender..
@@grimp53 the probably are just a different standard so yeah, they will be more expensive, but not ridiculously overprices if you don't source them at willier
Same reason Chris King sucks, but you can't tell an idiot any different. When you have to go a shop and order the part you need you know you won't be riding your bike again for two weeks.
Unmistakably, a very nice bike, but definitely for the wish-list only! As I just checked, it's: Complete bikes start at £7,470 & top out at £11,160 for a build with Campagnolo Super Record EPS and Bora WTO 33 Disc wheels. A frameset will set you back £4,500.
I'm happy it has hydraulic disc brakes. Carrying that battery, compressor and tank in my camelback was very tiring. And... proprietary bearings in the head tube. Built in obsolescence at its finest. Now to find a Willier dealer in Canuckistan.
I'm still trying to figure out how the forks lining up with the rear triangle has any effect at all with those pesky legs in the way. Maybe if you put it on top of an F1 car and send it down the straight at 200 MPH into a perfect headwind... Otherwise there's some serious shark jumping going on here.
It's really beautiful. But how about the price? 😳 And I guess proprietary parts all over make a repair difficult, takes longer to order the parts and is costly.
Grand Tour winning bikes this season: TdF - Colnago, rim brakes Giro - Pinarello, rim brakes Vuelta - Bianchi, rim brakes Putting the aero cliches aside, I think Wilier "make" (the frames come from China) beautiful bikes but it annoys me that rim brakes are only becoming an option on low-end bikes. Yes, i'm biased as my Italian bikes run Campy mechanical rim brake group sets and I wouldn't change them but I do think the consumer should have the choice.
Rim brakes dont mean everything....look at the World Championship, it was won on a disc brake bike....look at all the Liège-Bastonne-Liège, Gent wevelgem and La Flèche Brabançonne....It's not because you have rim brakes that you are faster on a race. You can put a shitty rider on a super expensive rim brake bike and have im fcked by a good rider on a 2000€ disc brake bike... The bike doesn't make you faster if you dont have the legs to do it. And as a pro rider once said "In a race you rarely need you brakes", and I'll had, "but when you do need'em, you better have the best available to you."
@@theobuzat9091 Agreed, it's always the engine that makes the difference. My main point is that as customers we should retain the choice particularly at the top-end where "off the peg" bikes are now costing 10k.
@@paulhawkins6771 Now that I agree with, but I'm not really mad at things shifting towards disc brakes....It's not going to stop and rim brakes are going to be really hard to find execpted on really low-end bikes or really high-end bikes (Colnago, Pinarello like you said).
Women world champion : SL7 disk brakes Men World Champion : SL7 disk brakes I ride a rim brakes ;) i like it because its light... the only default i find in rim brakes is that im not totaly confident in carbon rim for wet braking... so i have light aluminium wheels edit : sorry i answer without read others comments ;) i agree, i want a choice : rim or disk. Brand push disk, so wheels manufacturers focus on disk wheels... and it became difficult to find new rim brake wheels with a good braking surface. Look at the new Zipp 303 (or 302 i don't know) they are disk brakes only :(
Started with pedals...then it was missing them....then they came back...then it was weighed without them (hence why you carried it to the office I presume), .... then they returned for the end shot.... who nicked them and kept giving them back?
Bikes going the way of disposable electronics. With higher integration and more custom parts, a few years down the road, toss your bikes in the recycle bin or trade them in and spend money for a new one. Repairs? Forget about it. It's inevitable -- most consumers don't give a damn and will flock to these beautiful machines like they did with the slick consumer electronics; they complain that the Giant TCR 2021, which is also aero and comparatively lightweight if not lighter, looks outdated.
How do I go about bike fitting a bike with an integrated cockpit. DoI leave the steerer long? Does Willier limit the proprietary spacers that fit under the stem/bar? How do you fit a bike were the bar/stem is one find piece???? There's nothing to do but buy a whole new cockpit. Try explaining that in #GCN Tech
hey guys i'm new to the sport, with the sucess of João Almeida in the giro, i would love to buy a bike. What is the best bike to buy for arrond 1k, new or used, and what are the best secound hand bikes sites? (portugal, EU)
Great looking bike unfortunately it comes with a press fit BB. Based on my bad experience with the Trek press fit BB, it's a NO GO for me. My Madone BB had to glued in just after the 1st BB change, after only 1 year the frame was done around the BB! No I think about a Specialized bike with a threaded BB now.
I'll be honest - I like the look and love that velvet red paint job. But 5 grand for the frame kit alone is a very hefty price tag. There seems to be no limit to prices these days....
The white swatches and their angles look like adaptations from the previous designs of the Ciöcc Morpho which I have. Do a Ciöcc ISB video. It gets its tubes from Taiwan but, hey, most do, sorry to say.
Shimano on Italian bikes is just fine. It’s nonsense that Italian bikes should have Campy components. One more thing - did I hear the dirty P word? Proprietary headset bearings? That is going to be a nightmare to track down a few years from now. 😕
They've dropped the Cento 10 Pro after two years and dropped the Cento 10 after 3 years and before that the Cento Air, imagine how fast this versions going to last. I had to warranty my Cento 1 (2015) this past year and they didn't have a frame set to give me so I had to buy a discount a Cento10 Pro instead. It's ben sitting in my bike room for the past 5 months and I'm thinking of selling it so I'm not stuck with proprietary fittings are hard to source when the time comes. I wish they'd stick with one model and not make it hard to own a bike for more than 3 years. Can't handle the cost and the depreciation
@@juancamilorodriguez8134 I pulled the bottom bracket shell out from the frame. There is a metal sleeve that is bonded to the frame and the bonding released and the entire bb shifted toward the drive side. Willier gave me a frame at a discount since the Cento 1 isn't available anymore. Now I'm thinking of selling the new frame and Alabarda bars so I can buy something I can afford to build out.
The correct answer is, Chinese labour is getting more and more expensive. if you want a carbon Italian in-house frame, better go to Ticiti or Basso. since all the big ones produce in china and Taiwan.
@@GC_420 Yes that is what you get. For the same price of the wilier you could also get a Basso Diamante with Dura Ace Di2 which was handmade and assembled in Italy.
price levels of new bikes are equal to big motorcycles these days...... what happened, and do we just accept this ridiculous situation? For me it is very simple: I don’t feel I need a new bike. My bike is 5 years old and it rides fantastic. I think I do not need a new bike for at least the upcoming 5 years.
Seat stays in the aero shadow of the forks? Only if the bike is moving by itself without a rider. With a rider on, those seat stays are in the turbulent flow coming off the churning legs of the rider.
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What did you think of this brand new bike from Wilier? Let us know in the comments 👇
Can't afford it.
Nice. Definitely would go Ramato for the color.
Awesome!
Wilier is like Ferrari, both look great in red.
whats the size that ollie was presenting
Missed the part where this was a giveaway
We too.. :D
@@WilierTriestina :D Full send 😂
Suggested format:
1) ride the bike and give some feedback on handling / road feel etc
2) have a comparison shootout video with various other bikes like this (tarmac sl7 / foil 2021 / system six / aero road etc) - maybe TT section at a set power/ climb / general rider feedback on stiffness etc
Maybe you're new to GCN? These first looks are sponcon -- they're promotional content, not reviews.
@@erich8258 yeah. It’s all long lingering looks at tubes. Borderline leering.
It's an advert, the equivalent of QVC for bikes
And all this within hours of release!
@@JPLTF373 the check cleared.
So dazzled was Ollie by its beauty, he couldn’t tell right from left
or right from front! (8:04 - "the right fork leg looks to be almost twice the size of the front one"). He was clearly totally disorient(at)ed.
my right!
Definitely one of the most beautiful bikes I have seen lately. If Ollie only had the version with Campagnolo... 👍👍
Useful fact: Italian bikes won all 3 grand tours this year, but they were all rim brake
But but but....FAKE NEWS!
Useful fact: I don't race and I personally prefer disc brakes. I agree we should be given the choice though
Yes, true, and all 3 of them quite obsolete models (quite heavy and not so aero)... So bikes don't make such a difference in bike racing 🤣
@@matteocristini6221 I think not. Bikes that cost so much should have the best parts, that is carbon wheels, disc brakes... Bikes for around 2000 eur? Cheap carbon wheels and cheap carbon frame with disc brakes will not going to help you ride faster...
@@TeoSluga obsolete! Hahahahaha
I just love Ollie's Italian pronounciation, he sounds so much like Super Mario.... I can also confirm that whatever you say in Italian, you have to say it while gesturing (a lot) :) Greetings from Varese!!
Amazing, reduces the frontal area to reduce drag.. then I sit up..
Lovely looking machine, and a wonderful paint scheme, as you'd expect from Wilier. However, the bespoke bearings thing is a bit of a concern. That'll be an expensive and slow fix.
Wilier Triestina best logo and brand name in cycling
One of the most beautiful bikes I have ever seen!
Italian bikes are always just so beautiful. Even their motorcycles like ducati and mv augusta..... so so so atheistically pleasing
Thanks
yes but their electrics were crap ! and over priced
Atheistically pleasing? Best not give one to the Pope then!
Wilier is making awesome bikes lately, bravo.
8:13, 8:25
ollie forgot to distinguish basic directions because of this such beautiful bike.
7.09kg, very nice! Wilier's design and paint look so sweet these days. They're on a good run. Interestingly, no price was mentioned. I'm thinking at least $12k Australian. Ouch!
Best looking bike on the market hands down
Will it have a Dustin klein edition?
So incredibly proud that I actually own a Wilier Filante SLR in red 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
I am having a Wilier Zero SLR built up now...should be riding, HOPEFULLY, this weekend.
This is my dream bike. Love Willier bikes
Another bike that I can't afford 😂😂😂
That's impressively light for an aero/disc combo. Never thought I'd say that sentence.
'their own fine headset bearing', as opposed to 'stock oem bearings' = Very expensive, limited to bike manucturer, bearings. Oh dear, 'must have a word with a morgage lender..
Non standard bearings would make me back away. Replacements will be a pain in the ...
@@grimp53 the probably are just a different standard so yeah, they will be more expensive, but not ridiculously overprices if you don't source them at willier
Run A Mile!
Same reason Chris King sucks, but you can't tell an idiot any different. When you have to go a shop and order the part you need you know you won't be riding your bike again for two weeks.
Maybe I speak for everyone here or not but either way, I want to know if this bicycle can fit 32mm tires?
@7:50 dont those leg things protect the seat stays from wind !?
Unmistakably, a very nice bike, but definitely for the wish-list only! As I just checked, it's: Complete bikes start at £7,470 & top out at £11,160 for a build with Campagnolo Super Record EPS and Bora WTO 33 Disc wheels. A frameset will set you back £4,500.
I'm happy it has hydraulic disc brakes. Carrying that battery, compressor and tank in my camelback was very tiring.
And... proprietary bearings in the head tube. Built in obsolescence at its finest.
Now to find a Willier dealer in Canuckistan.
Imagine how much poutine you can buy for that money.
best bike out there...complete, has everything tat you need.
Glad to see it is only 11,300 Euros. I am going to buy 2. I will get a black one to use as my winter hack.
I REALLY LOVE THESE KIND OF VIDEOS. REALLY FUN TO WATCH.
They are out here playing lo-fi beats. It got me into study mode and I felt like taking notes
I'm still trying to figure out how the forks lining up with the rear triangle has any effect at all with those pesky legs in the way. Maybe if you put it on top of an F1 car and send it down the straight at 200 MPH into a perfect headwind... Otherwise there's some serious shark jumping going on here.
It's really beautiful. But how about the price? 😳 And I guess proprietary parts all over make a repair difficult, takes longer to order the parts and is costly.
I like wilier 🔥
Grand Tour winning bikes this season:
TdF - Colnago, rim brakes
Giro - Pinarello, rim brakes
Vuelta - Bianchi, rim brakes
Putting the aero cliches aside, I think Wilier "make" (the frames come from China) beautiful bikes but it annoys me that rim brakes are only becoming an option on low-end bikes. Yes, i'm biased as my Italian bikes run Campy mechanical rim brake group sets and I wouldn't change them but I do think the consumer should have the choice.
Vuelta - Bianchi, rim brakes
Rim brakes dont mean everything....look at the World Championship, it was won on a disc brake bike....look at all the Liège-Bastonne-Liège, Gent wevelgem and La Flèche Brabançonne....It's not because you have rim brakes that you are faster on a race. You can put a shitty rider on a super expensive rim brake bike and have im fcked by a good rider on a 2000€ disc brake bike... The bike doesn't make you faster if you dont have the legs to do it. And as a pro rider once said "In a race you rarely need you brakes", and I'll had, "but when you do need'em, you better have the best available to you."
@@theobuzat9091 Agreed, it's always the engine that makes the difference. My main point is that as customers we should retain the choice particularly at the top-end where "off the peg" bikes are now costing 10k.
@@paulhawkins6771 Now that I agree with, but I'm not really mad at things shifting towards disc brakes....It's not going to stop and rim brakes are going to be really hard to find execpted on really low-end bikes or really high-end bikes (Colnago, Pinarello like you said).
Women world champion : SL7 disk brakes
Men World Champion : SL7 disk brakes
I ride a rim brakes ;) i like it because its light... the only default i find in rim brakes is that im not totaly confident in carbon rim for wet braking... so i have light aluminium wheels
edit : sorry i answer without read others comments ;) i agree, i want a choice : rim or disk. Brand push disk, so wheels manufacturers focus on disk wheels... and it became difficult to find new rim brake wheels with a good braking surface. Look at the new Zipp 303 (or 302 i don't know) they are disk brakes only :(
Look at that wilier elite bottle cage 👌🏻
Yeah, proprietary stuff is really cool, especially bearings...
Complete bikes start at £7,470
that's exactly the weight of the bike in grams if you put pedals on it.
@@80robs92 oh, then I won't spend the extra on the heavier SRAM groups
@@Mike0 Well if its the SRAM Red 22 without etap and axs stuff, then you'll actually get a pretty decent and lightweight bike 😁
Colnago won 2020 TDF, Pinarello won 2020 Giro, Bianchi won 2020 Vuelta (all rim brakes). Now will Willier take one (with disc)?
how about the bb area? tolerances?
Beautiful bike - out of my league - will stick to canyon
What size frame is this, am curious about the specs for the 114 mm stem.
Love that bike! What a color!
Bella macchina!❤️⚜️
Gorgeous bike
Started with pedals...then it was missing them....then they came back...then it was weighed without them (hence why you carried it to the office I presume), .... then they returned for the end shot.... who nicked them and kept giving them back?
Wauw, and the weight, just wauw
you meant to say the left fork is beefed up correct?
2:49 already scratches. How long will the paint last?
Filante of course. When are going to do a side by side comparaison between the Filante, the Ostro Vam and SL7 and maybe the Emonda? :)
"Engineering their own components" might mean you're screwed a few years down the line.
I was hoping someone had the intelligence to point that out. A very important point made.
Bikes going the way of disposable electronics. With higher integration and more custom parts, a few years down the road, toss your bikes in the recycle bin or trade them in and spend money for a new one. Repairs? Forget about it. It's inevitable -- most consumers don't give a damn and will flock to these beautiful machines like they did with the slick consumer electronics; they complain that the Giant TCR 2021, which is also aero and comparatively lightweight if not lighter, looks outdated.
Round tubes! who would have thought?
I pondered about an aero bike that'll flicks air away from the draggy fleshy bits of the rider. Will that improve Cd?
How do I go about bike fitting a bike with an integrated cockpit. DoI leave the steerer long? Does Willier limit the proprietary spacers that fit under the stem/bar? How do you fit a bike were the bar/stem is one find piece???? There's nothing to do but buy a whole new cockpit. Try explaining that in #GCN Tech
Not that I can afford a 5 figure bike, but is there stock available inside 12 months?
How do you manage to sound Russian when you're doing an Italian accent Ollie?! XD
I want to know where we can buy the GCN coats?
Love the colour!!!!
Love the music 😊👌🏻
A beautiful bike!
Will stick with my rim brake Willier, probably the last one
Dont worry a few more years down the road, when everyone is on disk brake, rim brake will suddenly be better than disk brake again...
With rim brakes, that would be one of the lightest bikes on the market.
Wilier 🔝🔝🔝👍
What's the largest size tire it can fit? did I miss that?
No tire clearance mentioned.
I was specifically looking for this :(
The Filante SLR has 28mm tires but you have up to 30mm
"Shut up! And take my money!" Oh God Ollie trys extra hard to sell - nothin spezial - here. :)
This new trend of lightweight aero is quite interesting
predictable*
@@craigelliott1989 In terms of tech advancement, it's cutting edge. The price however....
Beautiful bike! 😍
very nice. i will take two.
Wilier Zero SLR for me
Thoughts on Van Rysel bikes?
The moment Van Rysel pays GCN to do so
Is that the new specialisima from bianchi? Looks very similar but still jaw dropping beautiful!
Ollie, go out and join Franny Cade on his Filante so you two can compare notes! (as lockdown allows, of course...)
hey guys i'm new to the sport, with the sucess of João Almeida in the giro, i would love to buy a bike. What is the best bike to buy for arrond 1k, new or used, and what are the best secound hand bikes sites? (portugal, EU)
Buy a Giant Contend SL1
This or specialissima 2021?
this
LENGTH: 114 mm, WIDTH: 420 mm, REACH: 72 mm, DROP: 130 mm. @4:38 I'm not sure what those numbers mean.
Great video!
Can you test the new De Rosa Merak at GCN by any chance?
Stunning looking bike...how many people can afford it???
Great looking bike unfortunately it comes with a press fit BB. Based on my bad experience with the Trek press fit BB, it's a NO GO for me. My Madone BB had to glued in just after the 1st BB change, after only 1 year the frame was done around the BB! No I think about a Specialized bike with a threaded BB now.
I'll be honest - I like the look and love that velvet red paint job. But 5 grand for the frame kit alone is a very hefty price tag. There seems to be no limit to prices these days....
Finally Hub soundcheck at 9:36 !
nice, odd that I saw a Filante vs Superleggera from GNC. I can´t find anymore. Today
what size is the bike in this video?
the size is : too expensive :( i prefer not torture myself thinking this bike may be the right size for me !
The white swatches and their angles look like adaptations from the previous designs of the Ciöcc Morpho which I have. Do a Ciöcc ISB video. It gets its tubes from Taiwan but, hey, most do, sorry to say.
What's the stand? Svelte.
Wilier; we heve a new bike!!!
Me; hold my ouzo!!!
Shimano on Italian bikes is just fine. It’s nonsense that Italian bikes should have Campy components. One more thing - did I hear the dirty P word? Proprietary headset bearings? That is going to be a nightmare to track down a few years from now. 😕
They've dropped the Cento 10 Pro after two years and dropped the Cento 10 after 3 years and before that the Cento Air, imagine how fast this versions going to last. I had to warranty my Cento 1 (2015) this past year and they didn't have a frame set to give me so I had to buy a discount a Cento10 Pro instead. It's ben sitting in my bike room for the past 5 months and I'm thinking of selling it so I'm not stuck with proprietary fittings are hard to source when the time comes. I wish they'd stick with one model and not make it hard to own a bike for more than 3 years. Can't handle the cost and the depreciation
@@westvanman1 what happened to your Cento 1? WHy dud you warranty it?
@@juancamilorodriguez8134 I pulled the bottom bracket shell out from the frame. There is a metal sleeve that is bonded to the frame and the bonding released and the entire bb shifted toward the drive side. Willier gave me a frame at a discount since the Cento 1 isn't available anymore. Now I'm thinking of selling the new frame and Alabarda bars so I can buy something I can afford to build out.
Ahh right after Francis Cade's review on his ...isnit purple or green Filante?
Does Willier manufacture their carbon frames in-house, in Italy?
No
The correct answer is, Chinese labour is getting more and more expensive. if you want a carbon Italian in-house frame, better go to Ticiti or Basso. since all the big ones produce in china and Taiwan.
@@80robs92 Kinda what i figured. So Italian 'made' becomes 'Assembled' (and price boosted) in Italy.
@@GC_420 Yes that is what you get. For the same price of the wilier you could also get a Basso Diamante with Dura Ace Di2 which was handmade and assembled in Italy.
price levels of new bikes are equal to big motorcycles these days...... what happened, and do we just accept this ridiculous situation?
For me it is very simple: I don’t feel I need a new bike. My bike is 5 years old and it rides fantastic. I think I do not need a new bike for at least the upcoming 5 years.
Same situatoon over here for me
Seat stays in the aero shadow of the forks? Only if the bike is moving by itself without a rider. With a rider on, those seat stays are in the turbulent flow coming off the churning legs of the rider.
Lost interest as soon as you said about special bearings. Special = expensive
YES. Italian-american bike companies think all their customers are brain dead millionaires....
pagani makes steer tubes?
At that price don't think you will be seeing many on the club Sunday ride or any.
wish i had a road bike
2nd look 😂 straight after Francis Cades video.
Link to enter the giveaway for it? Awesome bikes from Wilier as usual
I like it but that front axle lever sticks out a bit
Love it ... would be better with campag ... Shimano is all marketing...
Custom head tube bearings = Replacement problems. Beautiful bike.......I'm out