Havik betraying you, telling you it was just training, and you buying it without any questioning is peak storytelling. Havik could approach Shujinko in some dark alley, hit him in the back of the head with a big rock, and then Shujinko would go "Havik is such an excellent tutor"
Shujinko literally walking around hell and then not really caring about the fact that everyone tells him he's evil only for him to instantly just go along with Nightwolf telling him he should cleanse his soul to be good (which takes 10 fucking years!) and then getting scolded by Damashi for doing that and instantly infecting his soul again is peak storytelling.
I really don't know why people forget that at the time nobody knew or aware onaga is alive and if wether or not obtaining the kamidogu is right or even does anything.
Well, when he initially gets down to Hell, in the very first cutscene he actually does question how is it possible for him to exist down there. Damashi says that it's because working for the Lin Kuei has left a small taint of corruption on his soul, but I'll leave it up to you to press (X) on this one. Personally, I always explained it away as Damashi staining Shujinko's soul with darkness when he imbued upon him the power to STUDY ALL YOUR MOVES.
@@NucleaRaptor I feel like the taint being the Lin Kuei(In Addition to Shujinko working for Damashi) could fit, I always felt the side quest for the Lin Kuei where you fight the Shirai-Ryu members posing as Raiden Worshippers would make sense to be canon, since it'd likely be one of, if not the first recorded encounter between the Lin Kuei and the Shirai-Ryu(Hell the Lin Kuei doesn't even seem to know their name yet, only calling them "A Rival clan of NInja") Plus it gives a somewhat decent explanation as to why Shujinko is loyal to the Lin Kuei to have seemingly forgotten his quest and even almost questions Damashi. The only argument I could see is Shujinko supposedly killing almost all the Shirai-Ryu members there however he would have been a trained assassin(and likely undergone some form of indoctrination too) so him killing the Shirai-Ryu makes sense. Granted this is honestly nothing more then Headcanon but I feel like it works to a degree.
Instead the crap story we got , mk12 could been the perfect remake of mk6. But they couldn't risk alternative focused roaster with 3d era character as souless skinwalker
The best part about the exchange with Havik you actually cut out. Havik goes on to say 'No, I was absolutely trying to kill you, I just didn't manage to. Congratulations.'
Fun fact: even after you finish the Konquest mode, you still have a lot of things to do in it, you can access places you couldn't before, get more side quests, more characters to train with and you can unlock Raiden, Liu Kang and Shujinko's entire moveset.
Yes, you can - but some places you can enter only after complenting some parts of the story or NOT! Yes, NOT! Bcs - then, you can lost this quests. Basically like with GTA 3 and Asuka's brother missions.
I think Shujinko is a good example of what would realistically happen when you have an innocent, but incredibly naive protagonist who is willing to help EVERYONE out of the kindness of his heart but never once considers the consequences of his actions. Also I just now realized Shujinko probably never told anybody what he had done after he fled. Just lived the rest of his life up until Armageddon filled with guilt, shame, and regret.
Pretty sure he canonically beat Onaga. In Armageddon Shujinko let himself be imprisoned so that he can kill Onaga, Shao Kahn, Shang Tsung and Quan Chi in a single stroke. Although idk how he was going to escape without Taven freeing him… and he never managed to fight any of those people before they fled the palace. Shujinko probably bumped into Kronika who happened to be wandering around Kahn’s palace when she lost her hat or something so Shujinko ditched his plan and helped her immediately ofc.
@@RandallTheShotoWilliams15 yep that's actually the canon ending After that shujinko and the mostly the roasters made a plan most of them did their part to hinder onaga After that shujinko faced onaga and killed him so basically (shujinko killed onaga purely by skill nothing more he got no god power no magic except for the copy thing and killed onaga one of the most powerful being in mk) and after he killed onaga Raiden (dark Raiden) faced shujinko and kills him and justifying it by saying shujinko endangered the earth realm (which is of course right because of his innocent and naive he endangered the earth realm) so yep in the original time line shujinko endangered earth realm and also saved it and gets killed by Raiden which is a sad
Considering the fact that he's probably lived for thousands of years then 47 years would fly by. Like Edinians have lived for thousands of years and Humans age so quickly that an 60 year old man would be like a literal child to them.
I always just supposed that Onaga couldn't do more than the ball of light until way later. In Deadly Alliance, the game, we are shown Reptile turn Onaga on his arcade ending. Raiden mentions that the Deadly Alliance in The Deception Conquest after the Nightwolf time skip. The only time skip remaining was the prison one, so Onaga might have been unavailable until very late on the story. At that point, why not wait a little longer?
Hey y'all, this is a re-edited version of my last video with a new section added in. The previous version had some editing issues and I got some story things wrong, so I felt like it wasn't up to the quality that it should be and wanted to make it right. Thank you all for watching my videos. 🙇
If I'm not mistaken, "Monster" was originally meant to be Scorpion, who is the actual champion of the Elder Gods. You can even see some of his desing elements in Monster, like his shoulder pads and loin cloth, and his move set is of course just Scorpion's. Edit: As pointed out by a reply, Monster is actually a re-use of an abandoned costume for Scorpion, basically using something that was meant for the cutting room floor. I was mixing up my knowledge and was remembering him as the actual original Scorpion, thanks to my jumbled memories.
You are mistaken, because Elder God Champion Scorpion is the final boss of this entire mode. Monster is supposed to be the OG Champion before scorpion, using his moves as a gameplay conceit, and a costume they decided against for scorpion but had already made. He's the guy who getting his ass whooped opened the job up for scorpion
As other user said, "Monster" was the then true champion of the Elder Gods. The dialogue heavily implies this, leading the player to start pondering that, maybe, Shujinko has been lied to believe otherwise and that Damashi is not actually who he claims to be.
My favorite part about Hotaru jailing Shujinko is he's so hurt about the jailbreak. After decades in prison he's like "You're crazy for this, I would have put in a good word in for you smh" That's right boys I fished my comment from the older version of the video and pasted it here. Eat Engagement!
I'm pretty sure a 12 year old would be more gullible, hence why he was easily swayed by Damashi.The4thSnake explains this well in his video about Shujinko.
Shujinko really is a pretty dumb dude, but it is endearing how he helps everyone. Too bad all of that was for naught, cause he pretty much started Armageddon.
I'd call him perhaps more naive then dumb, But it's understandable considering he does start his quest at only age 13, Damashi like would have been one of the few non-Earthrealmers he's ever come across at that age(Bo'Rai"Cho being Outworlder but still Humanoid compared to Damashi), It makes sense he'd likely become loyal and trust Damashi intently since he'd likely be his only true Companion through his quest. slight edit: How'd he start Armageddon?
@@missionofsin3360 I was mistaken, I thought Onaga was more involved in Armageddon. He was a part of it, but it would have happened anyway without him.
PS2 era Mortal Kombat Games were the best MK because of the perfect blend between edge and cheese plus genuinely brimming with creativity from the stages to the costumes and the extra game modes.
Comment for the algorithm, already watched the first version but I'll watch this too. Crazy how that arcade Onaga fight perfectly plays off of the story mode's set-up, but because Midway seemingly couldn't let Shujinko canonically do *anything* except bring Onaga back, they couldn't let him have a proper ending in a mode that already goes far out of its way to make him look bad. Wild stuff.
What I remember most about this game is that in the Netherrealm there is a large shrine-like looking building that is mysteriously inaccessible and has a path around to the back with a bunch of spikes blocking what looks like a usable door. For a long time, it was hypothesized there was some kind of secret or something back there, that this was a very well buried 'big secret'. I scoured the game and tried to look for clues on how to get back there, like maybe there was a certain time of day or week or even if it had something to do with the date. Anyway, I never found anything but it was fun to dream and experiment. I'm sure now someone has scraped over the game or used a no-clip effect to get through the spikes in order to prove there is nothing there. The single player campaign isn't exactly high art but if you can go easy on passing judgement on it I think it winds up being a fun little romp for someone who likes classic martial arts films.
Oh man, I remember all those wild rumors about Kochal and the Super-unlockables.That's the real beauty of Konquest - there's so many secrets, kameos and missable interactions packed in there that it makes you easily believe that's even more stuff waiting to be discovered.
Mortal Kombat Deception is my all time favorite Mk game. I absolutely loved the Konquest mode for this game to this day. I genuinely love that MK Deception's Konquest is getting the love it deserves for being ahead of its time and being super fun to play through. Loved the video GuileWinQuote.
So the Original video was "Best MK Story Mode", now you made this updated version "Best MK Story Mode: Champion Edition". I can't wait for the definitive version of the video: "Super Best MK Story Mode Turbo"
Shujinko is maybe the most impressively untalented person ever written. He gets given instant mastery of any marital art he sees, then still spends years at a time to learn anything in the story.
Nah. There's far worse. At least he had to train with Bo Rai Cho and many others before mastering their skills. As for the story, Shujinko is a naive young adult who is mentally far behind his physical age. Doesn't help that being asked to serve the Elder Gods is a legit reason to drop everything in the MK universe.
It hurts a bit to see a re-upload since it'll absolutely kill the momentum that you were getting, but I have nothing but respect for a creator who cares more about the integrity of their content than they do about successful algorithm metrics. Anyway, one thing I find funny about Shujinko's story is that he basically saved the world by accident since if he didn't resurrect Onaga, Quan-Chi probably would've just used his army to take over the world since the deadly alliance killed everyone else that could've stopped this. No one was gonna take him down by breaking six rocks. So in a weird roundabout way Shujinko did the right thing after all.
I don't know if Shunjinko resurrected Onaga, I was led to believe that technically Reptile "revived" Onaga and therefore also relieving Blaze of his duty to protect Onaga's Dragon Egg (which Shunjinko does help him with his "memory problem". frick fracking thanks Shunjinko for bringing about Armageddon--)
Shujinko never resurrected Onaga. Blaze was brainwashed by Onaga's holy men and fought Reptile, using him as Onaga's vessel. All Shujinko did was bring Onaga power while he was dead.
I had the PSP version as a kid and I adored this mode. The environments had a great atmosphere and it was fun to run around and interact with all the random NPCs
Exploring all the realms when I was younger was such a cool experience, something about the fog, the music, the ambiance, just gave an incredible vibe, made the areas feel so much bigger to me than they probably were.
I think Shujinko is awesome, and he outsmarted Onaga in the end with his own power. Also, i don't think Armageddon should be used as a legit way to drag down a character since they brought back everyone, most without any logic. And even so, throughout MK's history they keep resurrecting every villain every time, Shujinko is not that stupid when you look at the whole picture.
I thought RUclips was bugging out recommending me this video again until I saw your comment, GWQ! Glad Shujinko got some closure at the end of arcade mode though. I mentioned it last time, but this whole mode reeks of grand narrative adventure that had to get cut and cut and cut until it became what it is now. I'm sure it made more sense in the original writer's minds but gameplay demands and budget/time had to rearrange stuff until it became the current goofy adventure. Still pretty impressive what they were able to put together. Can't believe they made an entire open world adventure game together with a fighter at the same time, just wild to imagine on the production side.
Deception(and even moreso, It's Konquest) is actually an unfinished game, Multiple side quests dead end with some items having no purpose in the game, Notably it was originally meant to include some form of time travel element to it, before it got scrapped.
I wouldn’t call him an idiot. Onaga chose him because he he was a kid and kids are easily impressionable and easily manipulated. And Shujinko’s belief in his mission where he thought he was doing good and in the service of the Elder Gods was further heightened and reinforced due to him obtaining the ability to copy move sets as well as the victories he’s had throughout the life. When Damashi revealed himself as Onaga, his belief in his mission was crushed. But I wonder how bad it must’ve felt realizing that his life was a lie. Currently, in MK1 (2023), Onaga got reduced to and is implied to have become some wild beast chained somewhere underneath a mountain that General Shao and Reiko must tame in order to conquer Outworld. Rather than the manipulative and deceptive former Kahn of Outworld he was meant to be but I guess through Liu Kang’s meddling, had nerfed him as he considered him a malefactor that was a threat to his vision for the new timeline.
I do love that this 1 story mode implies that shujinko is at fault for everything bad that happens in the 3 3D era mortal kombats, and now he is apparently about to come back in the new era too
Agreed. This is the greatest story mode in MKs history. It’s saddening that NRS haven’t brought this mode back in any of their subsequent games considering the evolution of technology they’ve have access to compared to 20 years ago.
Props for the update. What I don´t get is why didn´t Nightwolf just throw a tomahawk at Shujinko to cleanse his soul the fast way? Or does that only work for Animalities? Also, the human Nightwolf didn´t age a day during the whole process.
Regarding the last point, Konquest really mucks up the timeline if it were to be taken at face value due to the timeskips. It's generally hard to believe that the whole series up to then took place over 46~ years, but as an example of the most egregious point: Konquest indicates that there are 20 years in-between Deadly Alliance and Deception (the final timeskip happens right as DA is happening), but Deception's intro is basically immediately after DA, and the fighter bios IIRC don't give us any reason to believe the events of Deception are more than a couple months afterward. I think it's best to assume Konquest's something of a dramatization; that Shujinko _did_ go on a quest for Damashi to find the Kamidogu, and Onaga revealed himself after all of them were gathered, but the details beyond that are hazy.
I'm so happy someone covered this. I think about this game all the time, the atmosphere was unlike any game I'd played. I probably played through the first hour 100 times before getting stuck and restarting.
Year 01 is the first year of Shujinko's journey. 5 years pass, and we're in year 06. If he was 12, he'd be 17 now. Next time skip puts him at 27 in year 16. Then Nightwolf's spiritual quest happens, leading to year 27, adding 9 years on him, dropping Shujinko at 36. That is a very elderly looking 36 year old. Then we get the final time skip, in jail for 20 years, leaving our "hero" at 56 years old.
MK deception was my first introduction to the franchise i remember playing it on my play station portable. I remembered i was fond AF with the game i didn't really understand the story when i was a kid all i remember is an old man that goes to different worlds and cool deaths. i really blanked out the actually storyline in my mind till i watched this video. nostalgia hitting hard
It's mortal Monday!! Konquest looks really fun. I love how fast you can run and the feedback of punching strangers looks very satisfying. Midway games definitely made art in the same way a lot of b movies are art.
I remember my cousins and I were playing a game where we describe videogame plots as bad as possible and guess what game it is my favorites were " man with mommy issues penetrates brother for his inheritance" "guy gets lightning powers but in trade can't wash his ass" "mail man gets shot in the head gone postal " and finally the way my cousin describe mk deceptions conquest "dragon grooms child into finding his Funko pops"
Although the story was so stupid, voice acting was dumb and cliche, and the fact that so many decision Shujinko made didn't make any sense, but it was a great mode which gave us access to all the realms each with its unique atmosphere and so much to do and find, I wish they can do the same mode again in future Mortal Kombat games with today's technology, for me it's super nostalgic to watch, thanks for this great video it brought back memories!
It's still the best Single Player/ Story Mode ever made... and the only time something similar has been attempted was "World Tour" ... 19 YEARS latter... I'm fed up of the "Cinematic Story Modes" we've been having since MK vs DC.
Uhhmmm... I think I need to point out that the reason why he trained with the lin kuei is because they would need people that they can trust and someone that is capable to defend the artifact so they give him some training. Its not shujink who insist to learning, it was them.
I personally prefer Armageddon's Konquest a little more, but I can't deny that outside of the amazingly huge levels of stupidity Deception's Konquest mode has, it's still a lot of fun, especially for the average MK fan to expand stuff on the lore, exploring stuff that otherwise gets mention-only, or just overall a different point of view in the universe. I swear MK has NEVER been a good fighting game, and I mean it as a competitive player (MK4 rules, and I will keep mentioning it), but Midway devs seriously showcased they are amazing putting together some good beat'em ups, the previously mentioned Konquests and especially Shaolin Monks, to this day I'm so sad the Scorpion/Sub-Zero sequel was cancelled, and I wish that project comes someday... What a nostalgia trip this video was, I remember doing this as a 6-year-old who barely had any real English knowledge, and twisting the lore even more with what I could understand, fun times.
MK actually had a really good mythology and lore. Sure it was goofy but there were so many interesting concepts there. I don't really care for the multiverse comic book stuff in MK12, and I hope they settle down and try to create a fun single world again in 13
I still, to this day, wish for MK to go back to what it was back in the Midway days; not only because of the content (because MKD Konquest mode is easily the best story mode of MK) but the whole vibe of a more creepy and satanic MK will always be better than whatever multiverse super hero bs NRS/WB Games are trying now
Glad to see someone talking about this. The konquest mode is amazing and silly as hell. But I had more fun with it than any of the modern story modes that started with MK Vs. DC. I love how the story hinges on him being naive. If he wasn’t a naive kid when the plot started then the world would’ve been screwed. Hahaha Shujinko is finally starting to get some respect again in MK1. Even if he’s basically an NPC.
THIS story mode is what made me a huge fan of MK to this day. It was awesome seeing this big behind-the-scenes adventure that tied the games I played in the past together, which is why I believe there were so many time skips, because Shujinko's story started even before the first game but they had to get the player up to the story point of that current game without him interfering with the cannon up to that point. It would be awesome if they made a Shaolin Monks 2 with a story similar to this. Imagine how awesome it would be to go through the Realms as two customizable characters learning the ways of various characters throughout the series. With multiple timelines now being a thing, there are all kinds of interesting places throughout the MK history that could be used as set pieces. They could even get away with having both players being a Shujinko from a different timeline working together. As an aside, for some reason one of my most favorite moments in this mode was returning Ashrah's sword to her after seeing her drop it in her ending. It guess it just made me feel even more connected to the story when I could influence the very endings themselves for other characters.
The idea of the story mode encompassing a life long journey that turns out to be all a plot by an immortal being is actually really cool, just the excecution doesn't make much sense.
You know how Deception Scorpion kameo-ed in Drawn Together? If you didn't, well it happened but point is, I would've loved to see an episode of Xavier Renegade Angel where Xavier met Shujinko and Damashi.
These games are fantastic, easily my three favorite fighters of all time, and proof that focusing only on the competitive side of fighting game fandom causes greats to be overlooked. This is one of my favorite video game stories I've ever experienced, an the Konquest mode itself is fantastic. I love this game, and Shujinko is one of my favorite protagonists of all time. This is the respect this game deserves.
The image of Xavier slowly aperring during the havik dialogue freaking killed me, not gonna lie, I cannot play this game anymore without seeing sujinko as a alternate universe Xavier
Havik betraying you, telling you it was just training, and you buying it without any questioning is peak storytelling. Havik could approach Shujinko in some dark alley, hit him in the back of the head with a big rock, and then Shujinko would go "Havik is such an excellent tutor"
Havik should open up a school on Earthrealm.
He is the "Masterful gambit, sir" meme
If it doesn't make perfect sense to you, you're just not chaotic enough.
Okay kids, today lesson is : how to outsmart your enemies and make them fully trust you.
Shujinko is so naive
Shujinko literally walking around hell and then not really caring about the fact that everyone tells him he's evil only for him to instantly just go along with Nightwolf telling him he should cleanse his soul to be good (which takes 10 fucking years!) and then getting scolded by Damashi for doing that and instantly infecting his soul again is peak storytelling.
I really don't know why people forget that at the time nobody knew or aware onaga is alive and if wether or not obtaining the kamidogu is right or even does anything.
Well, when he initially gets down to Hell, in the very first cutscene he actually does question how is it possible for him to exist down there. Damashi says that it's because working for the Lin Kuei has left a small taint of corruption on his soul, but I'll leave it up to you to press (X) on this one. Personally, I always explained it away as Damashi staining Shujinko's soul with darkness when he imbued upon him the power to STUDY ALL YOUR MOVES.
@@NucleaRaptor I feel like the taint being the Lin Kuei(In Addition to Shujinko working for Damashi) could fit, I always felt the side quest for the Lin Kuei where you fight the Shirai-Ryu members posing as Raiden Worshippers would make sense to be canon, since it'd likely be one of, if not the first recorded encounter between the Lin Kuei and the Shirai-Ryu(Hell the Lin Kuei doesn't even seem to know their name yet, only calling them "A Rival clan of NInja")
Plus it gives a somewhat decent explanation as to why Shujinko is loyal to the Lin Kuei to have seemingly forgotten his quest and even almost questions Damashi.
The only argument I could see is Shujinko supposedly killing almost all the Shirai-Ryu members there however he would have been a trained assassin(and likely undergone some form of indoctrination too) so him killing the Shirai-Ryu makes sense.
Granted this is honestly nothing more then Headcanon but I feel like it works to a degree.
Instead the crap story we got , mk12 could been the perfect remake of mk6.
But they couldn't risk alternative focused roaster with 3d era character as souless skinwalker
@nebi3457Gaining Onaga's powers in MK Deception probably made Shujinko more evil too.
The best part about the exchange with Havik you actually cut out.
Havik goes on to say 'No, I was absolutely trying to kill you, I just didn't manage to. Congratulations.'
Yeah lol, I honestly do love Shunjinko tho, it’s nice to have pure characters for once
@@TailsGaming1999 syzoth says what
@@CoralCopperHead im playing mk1 story for the first time right now. Ive always loved Reptile and i heard he was characterized great here. Cant wait
@@ReverendLeRoux Did you realize that Havik is the ONLY character you train with that you DON'T turn into until you train with someone else ?
Fun fact: even after you finish the Konquest mode, you still have a lot of things to do in it, you can access places you couldn't before, get more side quests, more characters to train with and you can unlock Raiden, Liu Kang and Shujinko's entire moveset.
Yes, you can - but some places you can enter only after complenting some parts of the story or NOT! Yes, NOT! Bcs - then, you can lost this quests.
Basically like with GTA 3 and Asuka's brother missions.
@@ДаниилСтепанов-р1иCould never find Blaze after meeting him for the first time in Outworld.
raiden tried to kill me for my role in bringing onaga back
I think Shujinko is a good example of what would realistically happen when you have an innocent, but incredibly naive protagonist who is willing to help EVERYONE out of the kindness of his heart but never once considers the consequences of his actions.
Also I just now realized Shujinko probably never told anybody what he had done after he fled. Just lived the rest of his life up until Armageddon filled with guilt, shame, and regret.
Pretty sure he canonically beat Onaga. In Armageddon Shujinko let himself be imprisoned so that he can kill Onaga, Shao Kahn, Shang Tsung and Quan Chi in a single stroke. Although idk how he was going to escape without Taven freeing him… and he never managed to fight any of those people before they fled the palace. Shujinko probably bumped into Kronika who happened to be wandering around Kahn’s palace when she lost her hat or something so Shujinko ditched his plan and helped her immediately ofc.
In Raiden's ending, he kills Shujinko for endangering Earthrealm. Although, it's after Shujinko defeats Onaga. Not sure if it's canon tho
@@RandallTheShotoWilliams15 yep that's actually the canon ending
After that shujinko and the mostly the roasters made a plan most of them did their part to hinder onaga
After that shujinko faced onaga and killed him so basically (shujinko killed onaga purely by skill nothing more he got no god power no magic except for the copy thing and killed onaga one of the most powerful being in mk) and after he killed onaga Raiden (dark Raiden) faced shujinko and kills him and justifying it by saying shujinko endangered the earth realm (which is of course right because of his innocent and naive he endangered the earth realm) so yep in the original time line shujinko endangered earth realm and also saved it and gets killed by Raiden which is a sad
@@yungjeezy5232bro would honestly help her find the Hour Glass.
@@RandallTheShotoWilliams15if raiden is been a dick than it's cannon .
Farm boy mk1 isn't
I need a "contemplating my orb" meme but the wizard is Onaga and the orb is Damashi.
I love how patient Onaga is, choosing shujinko only to wait nearly 47 nears for shujinko and his shenanigans to complete the quest
Considering the fact that he's probably lived for thousands of years then 47 years would fly by. Like Edinians have lived for thousands of years and Humans age so quickly that an 60 year old man would be like a literal child to them.
I always just supposed that Onaga couldn't do more than the ball of light until way later. In Deadly Alliance, the game, we are shown Reptile turn Onaga on his arcade ending. Raiden mentions that the Deadly Alliance in The Deception Conquest after the Nightwolf time skip. The only time skip remaining was the prison one, so Onaga might have been unavailable until very late on the story. At that point, why not wait a little longer?
@@ricardoj376 The Reptile ending isn't canon.
Onaga was more or less out of the picture until Shujinko collected the Kamidogu.
Senjinko is like the unemployed friends who goes on wild adventures
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Hey y'all, this is a re-edited version of my last video with a new section added in. The previous version had some editing issues and I got some story things wrong, so I felt like it wasn't up to the quality that it should be and wanted to make it right. Thank you all for watching my videos. 🙇
Thank you for taking into account Shujinko's ending!! It's never bad to fix stuff that isn't up to snuff :)
You mean we gotta watch the video AGAIN?!
dope B)
wow, you made a very good decision! we are here to see it again!!
Excuse to watch it again
Well, time to watch a 30 minute video just to see "bonus content" and corrections
If I'm not mistaken, "Monster" was originally meant to be Scorpion, who is the actual champion of the Elder Gods. You can even see some of his desing elements in Monster, like his shoulder pads and loin cloth, and his move set is of course just Scorpion's.
Edit: As pointed out by a reply, Monster is actually a re-use of an abandoned costume for Scorpion, basically using something that was meant for the cutting room floor. I was mixing up my knowledge and was remembering him as the actual original Scorpion, thanks to my jumbled memories.
Exactly, it's supposed to be EG Champion Scorpion. Those zig-zaggy "eyebrow" things are a dead giveaway.
Monster was a way of them to use a concept art that had been designed for Scorpion. A similar situation that netted us Havik.
You are mistaken, because Elder God Champion Scorpion is the final boss of this entire mode.
Monster is supposed to be the OG Champion before scorpion, using his moves as a gameplay conceit, and a costume they decided against for scorpion but had already made. He's the guy who getting his ass whooped opened the job up for scorpion
@@arcturus1231Oh, he was a dropped costume. That's what I'm mixed up about, thanks for clearing that up.
As other user said, "Monster" was the then true champion of the Elder Gods. The dialogue heavily implies this, leading the player to start pondering that, maybe, Shujinko has been lied to believe otherwise and that Damashi is not actually who he claims to be.
My favorite part about Hotaru jailing Shujinko is he's so hurt about the jailbreak. After decades in prison he's like "You're crazy for this, I would have put in a good word in for you smh"
That's right boys I fished my comment from the older version of the video and pasted it here. Eat Engagement!
I'm pretty sure a 12 year old would be more gullible, hence why he was easily swayed by Damashi.The4thSnake explains this well in his video about Shujinko.
Yup
And the whole Chaos Realm thing happened where he was basically in a coma until he was a young adult
Exactly.
People ignore the fact that Shujinko is mentally far, far behind his physical age.
Onaga also has the benefit of being immortal.
It may take ages for Shujinko to finish his quest, but what are ages to an unaging being? He can wait.
Shujinko really is a pretty dumb dude, but it is endearing how he helps everyone. Too bad all of that was for naught, cause he pretty much started Armageddon.
I'd call him perhaps more naive then dumb, But it's understandable considering he does start his quest at only age 13, Damashi like would have been one of the few non-Earthrealmers he's ever come across at that age(Bo'Rai"Cho being Outworlder but still Humanoid compared to Damashi), It makes sense he'd likely become loyal and trust Damashi intently since he'd likely be his only true Companion through his quest.
slight edit: How'd he start Armageddon?
@@missionofsin3360 I was mistaken, I thought Onaga was more involved in Armageddon. He was a part of it, but it would have happened anyway without him.
@@amosdeguzman9980well, if the side quest involving Blaze is canon then he indeed started Armaggedon
@@SpiderMan-gf1lc what side quest was it?
@@amosdeguzman9980 the one where he helps Blaze regain his memory
Thanks for talking about Shujinko's arcade ladder, it bugged me in the original upload when you didn't mention that.
Thank you for giving me another chance 🫡
PS2 era Mortal Kombat Games were the best MK because of the perfect blend between edge and cheese plus genuinely brimming with creativity from the stages to the costumes and the extra game modes.
Chess kombat was a blast!
Comment for the algorithm, already watched the first version but I'll watch this too.
Crazy how that arcade Onaga fight perfectly plays off of the story mode's set-up, but because Midway seemingly couldn't let Shujinko canonically do *anything* except bring Onaga back, they couldn't let him have a proper ending in a mode that already goes far out of its way to make him look bad. Wild stuff.
At least his Arcade mode ending is canonical IIRC.
What I remember most about this game is that in the Netherrealm there is a large shrine-like looking building that is mysteriously inaccessible and has a path around to the back with a bunch of spikes blocking what looks like a usable door. For a long time, it was hypothesized there was some kind of secret or something back there, that this was a very well buried 'big secret'. I scoured the game and tried to look for clues on how to get back there, like maybe there was a certain time of day or week or even if it had something to do with the date.
Anyway, I never found anything but it was fun to dream and experiment. I'm sure now someone has scraped over the game or used a no-clip effect to get through the spikes in order to prove there is nothing there. The single player campaign isn't exactly high art but if you can go easy on passing judgement on it I think it winds up being a fun little romp for someone who likes classic martial arts films.
Oh man, I remember all those wild rumors about Kochal and the Super-unlockables.That's the real beauty of Konquest - there's so many secrets, kameos and missable interactions packed in there that it makes you easily believe that's even more stuff waiting to be discovered.
Deja Vu, i have been in this place before
Must've been a timeskip
Got stuck in the orange water
Mortal Kombat Deception is my all time favorite Mk game. I absolutely loved the Konquest mode for this game to this day. I genuinely love that MK Deception's Konquest is getting the love it deserves for being ahead of its time and being super fun to play through.
Loved the video GuileWinQuote.
Thank you for watching 🙇🏼
So the Original video was "Best MK Story Mode", now you made this updated version "Best MK Story Mode: Champion Edition". I can't wait for the definitive version of the video: "Super Best MK Story Mode Turbo"
Konquest mode is basically what a 2000s mortal kombat shonen anime would look like
Shujinko is maybe the most impressively untalented person ever written. He gets given instant mastery of any marital art he sees, then still spends years at a time to learn anything in the story.
Bad luck with spouses I guess
Nah. There's far worse.
At least he had to train with Bo Rai Cho and many others before mastering their skills.
As for the story, Shujinko is a naive young adult who is mentally far behind his physical age.
Doesn't help that being asked to serve the Elder Gods is a legit reason to drop everything in the MK universe.
ill gladly watch this again, i eat my delicious 3d era slop with a grin
It hurts a bit to see a re-upload since it'll absolutely kill the momentum that you were getting, but I have nothing but respect for a creator who cares more about the integrity of their content than they do about successful algorithm metrics.
Anyway, one thing I find funny about Shujinko's story is that he basically saved the world by accident since if he didn't resurrect Onaga, Quan-Chi probably would've just used his army to take over the world since the deadly alliance killed everyone else that could've stopped this. No one was gonna take him down by breaking six rocks. So in a weird roundabout way Shujinko did the right thing after all.
I didn't think about it like that, but you're probably right 🤔
Even though Blaze comes in and messes up everything anyways lol
I don't know if Shunjinko resurrected Onaga, I was led to believe that technically Reptile "revived" Onaga and therefore also relieving Blaze of his duty to protect Onaga's Dragon Egg (which Shunjinko does help him with his "memory problem". frick fracking thanks Shunjinko for bringing about Armageddon--)
Shujinko never resurrected Onaga. Blaze was brainwashed by Onaga's holy men and fought Reptile, using him as Onaga's vessel. All Shujinko did was bring Onaga power while he was dead.
Deception’s Konquest was lightning in a bottle I don’t think we’ll ever see anything as immersive again in Mortal Kombat
I had the PSP version as a kid and I adored this mode. The environments had a great atmosphere and it was fun to run around and interact with all the random NPCs
Exploring all the realms when I was younger was such a cool experience, something about the fog, the music, the ambiance, just gave an incredible vibe, made the areas feel so much bigger to me than they probably were.
I think Shujinko is awesome, and he outsmarted Onaga in the end with his own power. Also, i don't think Armageddon should be used as a legit way to drag down a character since they brought back everyone, most without any logic. And even so, throughout MK's history they keep resurrecting every villain every time, Shujinko is not that stupid when you look at the whole picture.
I genuinely believe that the only way you hate Shujinko is if you've never played Deception
I thought RUclips was bugging out recommending me this video again until I saw your comment, GWQ! Glad Shujinko got some closure at the end of arcade mode though.
I mentioned it last time, but this whole mode reeks of grand narrative adventure that had to get cut and cut and cut until it became what it is now. I'm sure it made more sense in the original writer's minds but gameplay demands and budget/time had to rearrange stuff until it became the current goofy adventure. Still pretty impressive what they were able to put together. Can't believe they made an entire open world adventure game together with a fighter at the same time, just wild to imagine on the production side.
Deception(and even moreso, It's Konquest) is actually an unfinished game, Multiple side quests dead end with some items having no purpose in the game, Notably it was originally meant to include some form of time travel element to it, before it got scrapped.
I wouldn’t call him an idiot. Onaga chose him because he he was a kid and kids are easily impressionable and easily manipulated. And Shujinko’s belief in his mission where he thought he was doing good and in the service of the Elder Gods was further heightened and reinforced due to him obtaining the ability to copy move sets as well as the victories he’s had throughout the life. When Damashi revealed himself as Onaga, his belief in his mission was crushed. But I wonder how bad it must’ve felt realizing that his life was a lie. Currently, in MK1 (2023), Onaga got reduced to and is implied to have become some wild beast chained somewhere underneath a mountain that General Shao and Reiko must tame in order to conquer Outworld. Rather than the manipulative and deceptive former Kahn of Outworld he was meant to be but I guess through Liu Kang’s meddling, had nerfed him as he considered him a malefactor that was a threat to his vision for the new timeline.
Mom says it's my turn to walk in the orange timey wimey water.
>eating yellow snow
>drinking chaos OJ
ngmi
I do love that this 1 story mode implies that shujinko is at fault for everything bad that happens in the 3 3D era mortal kombats, and now he is apparently about to come back in the new era too
13:10 the dialogue and the crude 3d animation really does feel like a joke from xavier renegade angel 😂😂
Agreed. This is the greatest story mode in MKs history. It’s saddening that NRS haven’t brought this mode back in any of their subsequent games considering the evolution of technology they’ve have access to compared to 20 years ago.
As one of the biggest Shujinko fans out there, I'm glad you made a video on him.
I just wanna say i really enjoy the thumbnail you made for this video
Props for the update.
What I don´t get is why didn´t Nightwolf just throw a tomahawk at Shujinko to cleanse his soul the fast way? Or does that only work for Animalities? Also, the human Nightwolf didn´t age a day during the whole process.
Regarding the last point, Konquest really mucks up the timeline if it were to be taken at face value due to the timeskips.
It's generally hard to believe that the whole series up to then took place over 46~ years, but as an example of the most egregious point: Konquest indicates that there are 20 years in-between Deadly Alliance and Deception (the final timeskip happens right as DA is happening), but Deception's intro is basically immediately after DA, and the fighter bios IIRC don't give us any reason to believe the events of Deception are more than a couple months afterward.
I think it's best to assume Konquest's something of a dramatization; that Shujinko _did_ go on a quest for Damashi to find the Kamidogu, and Onaga revealed himself after all of them were gathered, but the details beyond that are hazy.
I'm so happy someone covered this. I think about this game all the time, the atmosphere was unlike any game I'd played. I probably played through the first hour 100 times before getting stuck and restarting.
Year 01 is the first year of Shujinko's journey. 5 years pass, and we're in year 06. If he was 12, he'd be 17 now.
Next time skip puts him at 27 in year 16. Then Nightwolf's spiritual quest happens, leading to year 27, adding 9 years on him, dropping Shujinko at 36. That is a very elderly looking 36 year old.
Then we get the final time skip, in jail for 20 years, leaving our "hero" at 56 years old.
To add something to this
Raiden's arcade ending shows that all of the Konquest events happened and after that Raiden kills Shujinko
Gonna watch it again and give it another thumbs up, thanks for the edits Guile
I have seen call-backs to the Renegade Angel two times more this week than I'd've expected, and that is fine.
I retroactively love the 3d games now. I'd love a remaster compilation on current gen
5:26 take notes, Bethesda lol
MrGSTAR321 has an amazing decade old longplay of Konquest, well worth the watch
And his vitriolic grudge towards Bo Rai Cho, which he has yet to to explain in full detail.
Gotta respect someone who'll take the algorithm hit to get things right
Shunjinko is a Forrest Gump of Mortal Kombat
MK deception was my first introduction to the franchise i remember playing it on my play station portable. I remembered i was fond AF with the game i didn't really understand the story when i was a kid all i remember is an old man that goes to different worlds and cool deaths. i really blanked out the actually storyline in my mind till i watched this video. nostalgia hitting hard
It's mortal Monday!!
Konquest looks really fun. I love how fast you can run and the feedback of punching strangers looks very satisfying. Midway games definitely made art in the same way a lot of b movies are art.
Except Midway games are unironically high art
Oh cool he can actually do it. Yeah I don’t blame you for missing that and then feeling like you need to edit and reup. Good as always GWQ.
I remember my cousins and I were playing a game where we describe videogame plots as bad as possible and guess what game it is my favorites were " man with mommy issues penetrates brother for his inheritance" "guy gets lightning powers but in trade can't wash his ass" "mail man gets shot in the head gone postal " and finally the way my cousin describe mk deceptions conquest "dragon grooms child into finding his Funko pops"
This is a great overview of this mode and story. I love how enthusiastic you are about the stupidity.
Although the story was so stupid, voice acting was dumb and cliche, and the fact that so many decision Shujinko made didn't make any sense, but it was a great mode which gave us access to all the realms each with its unique atmosphere and so much to do and find, I wish they can do the same mode again in future Mortal Kombat games with today's technology, for me it's super nostalgic to watch, thanks for this great video it brought back memories!
It's still the best Single Player/ Story Mode ever made... and the only time something similar has been attempted was "World Tour" ... 19 YEARS latter...
I'm fed up of the "Cinematic Story Modes" we've been having since MK vs DC.
Nah MK Shaolin Monks is the greatest Mk story mode game
My favorite thing about 13:18 is Havik basically responds by saying “oh no, I totally was also trying to kill you”
that Monster guy was supposed to be an alt skin for Scorpion but they made him his own character for some reason
Uhhmmm... I think I need to point out that the reason why he trained with the lin kuei is because they would need people that they can trust and someone that is capable to defend the artifact so they give him some training. Its not shujink who insist to learning, it was them.
Shujinko is the Forrest Gump of the Mortal Kombat universe.
I personally prefer Armageddon's Konquest a little more, but I can't deny that outside of the amazingly huge levels of stupidity Deception's Konquest mode has, it's still a lot of fun, especially for the average MK fan to expand stuff on the lore, exploring stuff that otherwise gets mention-only, or just overall a different point of view in the universe.
I swear MK has NEVER been a good fighting game, and I mean it as a competitive player (MK4 rules, and I will keep mentioning it), but Midway devs seriously showcased they are amazing putting together some good beat'em ups, the previously mentioned Konquests and especially Shaolin Monks, to this day I'm so sad the Scorpion/Sub-Zero sequel was cancelled, and I wish that project comes someday...
What a nostalgia trip this video was, I remember doing this as a 6-year-old who barely had any real English knowledge, and twisting the lore even more with what I could understand, fun times.
I've actually never been thru Armageddon's Konquest mode fully...will need to change that soon!
13:17 xavier made me spill my tea
Shujinko's Bizarre Adventure
all native americans do tae kwon do
MK actually had a really good mythology and lore. Sure it was goofy but there were so many interesting concepts there. I don't really care for the multiverse comic book stuff in MK12, and I hope they settle down and try to create a fun single world again in 13
I'm a big fan of deception's konquest i was shocked that they didn't bring it back in MK1 i hope it returns sometime
I still, to this day, wish for MK to go back to what it was back in the Midway days; not only because of the content (because MKD Konquest mode is easily the best story mode of MK) but the whole vibe of a more creepy and satanic MK will always be better than whatever multiverse super hero bs NRS/WB Games are trying now
Again MK Deception is one the best PS2 games ever. Playing Konquest mode is very memorable to me. Just how goofy it is.
the 3d era was so fucking amazing
This is one of the best videos I’ve seen on Konquest story mode and have watched this a couple times.
This means a lot, thanks!!!
Glad to see someone talking about this. The konquest mode is amazing and silly as hell. But I had more fun with it than any of the modern story modes that started with MK Vs. DC.
I love how the story hinges on him being naive. If he wasn’t a naive kid when the plot started then the world would’ve been screwed. Hahaha
Shujinko is finally starting to get some respect again in MK1. Even if he’s basically an NPC.
This is basically PS2 World Tour, way ahead of it’s time
Better than the sf6 world tour.
and somehow we avoided mentioning that this game has the best alternate game modes in fighting game history. Who up for some fuckin CHESS KOMBAT
seeing this now, in the new timeline where both Shujinko and Hanzo are just boys... their journeys may still cross each other's paths 💀
THIS story mode is what made me a huge fan of MK to this day. It was awesome seeing this big behind-the-scenes adventure that tied the games I played in the past together, which is why I believe there were so many time skips, because Shujinko's story started even before the first game but they had to get the player up to the story point of that current game without him interfering with the cannon up to that point.
It would be awesome if they made a Shaolin Monks 2 with a story similar to this. Imagine how awesome it would be to go through the Realms as two customizable characters learning the ways of various characters throughout the series. With multiple timelines now being a thing, there are all kinds of interesting places throughout the MK history that could be used as set pieces. They could even get away with having both players being a Shujinko from a different timeline working together.
As an aside, for some reason one of my most favorite moments in this mode was returning Ashrah's sword to her after seeing her drop it in her ending. It guess it just made me feel even more connected to the story when I could influence the very endings themselves for other characters.
This channel always have amazing content
This means a lot, thank you!
13:10 I see you're a man of fine culture.
Shujinko should not be allowed near big red buttons.
Great video fella. Great commentary
Enjoyed every minute.
game is art indeed
Its wild that Raiden orders Cassie Cage to kill Shujinko in MK X. He doesnt even tell her his name, just says he *might* be Shang Tsung reborn ☠
I'm actually glad I watched this video and I now know who shujinko is and honestly in my opinion he's a very underrated character in all honesty.
Glad you fixed it, for your own sanity's sake lol
Hope the algorithm doesnt punish you too hard, good video imo
First mista ggs video on this story and now yours in the same week. Im living large boys
when we were kids this game and halo were everything to me lol
The idea of the story mode encompassing a life long journey that turns out to be all a plot by an immortal being is actually really cool, just the excecution doesn't make much sense.
You know how Deception Scorpion kameo-ed in Drawn Together? If you didn't, well it happened but point is, I would've loved to see an episode of Xavier Renegade Angel where Xavier met Shujinko and Damashi.
3:08 this is where Chris Nolan took idea for Tenet and from Kunteynir - Privet pider
hadnt seen this the first time but yt alg hath blessed me for the re upload i guess
good video. more alg push !
Y'know inspite of his jobbing and how stupid he is I've always really liked shujinko. Really glad he's in MK1 even if he's just a kameo.
Ive never seen this much love for such an arguably ass era this shit is so fire
This is one of those things Soul Calibur lacked. While it did have its own story modes or conquest variants it was never on a level like this.
Wow my brain just unlocked the memory of the Soul Calibur beat em up I never ended up playing.
I love the Xavier renegade angel cameo
I always loved Shujinko man he's just so funny the guy doesn't know anything and doesn't ask questions he just is on a quest literally any quest😂
These games are fantastic, easily my three favorite fighters of all time, and proof that focusing only on the competitive side of fighting game fandom causes greats to be overlooked.
This is one of my favorite video game stories I've ever experienced, an the Konquest mode itself is fantastic. I love this game, and Shujinko is one of my favorite protagonists of all time. This is the respect this game deserves.
It looks like he's coming back soo, the entire Kung Lao ending was based on Shujinko!
The image of Xavier slowly aperring during the havik dialogue freaking killed me, not gonna lie, I cannot play this game anymore without seeing sujinko as a alternate universe Xavier
Man I need shujinko playable in mk1, his gimmick has so much potential
Hope you're willing to talk about Armadeggon next, I already liked the first version so, once again, good video.
I'm no MK fan but I'll watch this vid again because it was really good
Thank you for watching 🙇🏼🙇🏼🙇🏼
Damashi is just a god of gaslighting