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The ArcSys DBZ vs One Piece Tag Fighter
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- Опубликовано: 28 фев 2023
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Thank you to GriffyBones for all the help:
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Shoutouts to Plaugeborn for the Oda style Guile wanted art:
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Check out these channels for some good matches:
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@traweezie
@ShoRose
Dedicated to the OPxDBZ3DS community and Traweezie/Jape
Hey, personal friend of Traweezie/Jape here
he passed away very recently, so his videos online are the last archives of his activity and will be kept up as such to keep this game’s legacy alive.
I didn’t know anyone who was personally more into the game than he was. I would legit just log in the game and get my ass beat just so he can have the opportunity to try out whacky stuff on a random Sunday.
I would appreciate if this post gets pinned so that people can be aware of how important his channel is going to be especially today.
he was involved in many game communities such as Smash Flash 2, Smash Crusade, DBZEB, Capcom Universe, etc. so i saw many people were sad to hear of his passing.
we met online during covid but were planning to meet up and play at a local cause we were in the same city :(
@@gpbear4 He was the King of Kusoge games for me and always will be. I do not know anyone else besides Griffybones who went all in on games that would never get looked at otherwise. Really spearheaded alot of communities.
RIP to the king
WAIT is this the same Jape/Traweezie who was involved with the Super Smash Bros. Crusade team?!
God, I talked to him so many times over the Crusade discord, what happened?
@@xemlyrics yes. Traweezie (Travon) passed away last June. It was very sudden and his impact in many small game communities can be felt today. He was a dear friend who I knew for nearly a decade.
The crazy thing is that Extreme Butoden was like the 3rd ArcSys DBZ game, and all of them to that point were handheld fighters. DBFZ was a culmination, and the One Piece game was basically a byproduct of that history.
3rd? What was the first?
GoldGlove is right, they made the Super Sonic Warriors games on the GBA and DS!
SSW2 has one of my favorite what-if modes in all of the DBZ games, I spent so much time on it as a kid.
@@GuileWinQuote WAIT THE SUPERSONIC WARRIORS SERIES WAS BY ARCSYS?!
@@Tr0lliPopyee, fun games too. So they've actually had a game on every generation of Nintendo hardware since the GBA at this point
Thanks to everyone for checking out the OPDBZ 3ds games. It means so much to read so many nice and supportive comments about the game. There were many days I felt no one would ultimately care or play about the game, but I loved it so much I just kept playing it. Seeing this now makes it all feel worth it. Thanks so much to GuileWinQuote for doing this, and most of all thanks to Traweezie/Jape. I wouldn't be nearly as passionate about this game without him, and it means the world to me to see so many people in the comments mention nice things about Traweezie.
Can't believe Raditz made it into the 3DS game but didn't get added to fighterz lmao
Yeah, because he's even more pathetic than Yamcha.
@@otaking3582 Yet Yamcha is the one known for getting killed.
@@Magnet_Chaos That's only because unlike Raditz, Yamcha still had a presence before and after his death (even if it did involve Bulma dumping him for the violent murderer..... Toriyama isn't exactly a good writer).
Yeah, didn't feel right not having the entire Saiyan Saga trio.
They added Nappa but not Raditz. What an outrage.
GriffyBones is one of the greatest obscure game connoisseurs I have ever met online. This collaboration is a match made in heaven.
Indeed they are
Fancy seeing you here, then again, you're not that different from Griffybones yourself.
I can say the same for many of the people in these comments 🫡
I'm just surprised it took this long for us to collab 😅
I agree! Griffy is a master at this, took a lot from him myself to get into these, especially since I'm all in for tech preservation too, without him, things would have been different.
@@GuileWinQuote i play the Dragon Ball fighting games on Citra Emulator on my Android.
seeing all the dbz assists made me so happy, the roster in fighterz is fun but you do miss out on those early DB characters like tao and launch. i cant tell you how excited i was when i saw puar as an assist, of all characters
Dragonball is a really dumb and goofy series, and I love when anything celebrates that!!
Puar is also a really good assist in the game lol. Comes out quickly and works very well on offense and defense. Gave me many headaches when I play against good DBZEB players.
DBFZ does assists in the MvC2 style. This game apparently does assists in the MvC1 style: not the playable characters. Overall a good approach for games based on licensed franchises to give room for a wider range of fanservice, with characters that don't fit in the fighting or don't fit the roster because of the size limit.
Since a long time i think these kind of fgs should better use the MvC1 assist style instead, or leave the option to use a playable or non playable assist. And on this part there is already a technology set by KOF 00, so I'm not talking about a wacky idea never tried before, and besides you can see it's not new either. If there's a new traditional anime fg i believe it's going to benefit a lot from having npc assists, having the chance to use more characters from the franchise.
That send off to Traw/ Jape means everything to this video. Man was great to be around and great to talk with. Thanks for this wonderful video encompassing both games and glad to participate in it somehow.
So THAT where all the db fusion generator sprites came from
dude; imagine if Arcsys did this kinda thing with these two franchises again? And in the FighterZ engine? The amount of hype would be astronomical.
Or perhaps even a third franchise? Maybe go full “Cross Tag Battle”?
The stiff combo structure is extremely similar to how Pokken came off and what put me off to it as well... after leaving and coming back after some time though, I see now that the game has an in depth system for most of the characters that intertwine well with the systems, like this game! Thanks for shedding light on another relatively slept on fighter.
Its really cool to see how many of these sprites and animations were re-used and polished for dragon ball FighterZ
I always mention Extreme Butoden whenever the topic of arcsys games or DBZ comes up, because it's such a forgotten gem in their library despite getting pretty heavy promotion on the e-shop and in the press at the time. Not Sengoku Basara X levels of obscure (obligatory reminder to do your part and nag Capcom to release ANY OTHER Sengoku Basara game in the west besides 3), but people still tend to gloss over it.
Also I, honestly feel like the DS and 3DS were a fine platform for fighting games along side the PSP. Especially with how clicky and precise the D-pad was on the 3DS. The only real weakness of 7th gen handhelds to me is the 4 face buttons rather than 6 or bumpers, but that's a very minor issue compared to the concessions the GBA and GBC had to make. and the fighting game library for both of them is surprisingly rich.
Shoutouts to DOA Dimensions for being possibly the best portable fighter ever.
DOA Dimensions is legitimately insane. The 3DS surprisingly has a super strong list of fighting games for absolutely no reason lol
The d-pad on the original 3DS sucked for fighting games. I still have blisters from SSFIV3D.....
Still, I wish that it and the DS had more fighting games than just a bunch of ports and Windy x Windam
I'll throw Bleach DS as my pick for best portable fighter.
The real ArcSys obscure fighting game is "Nurarihyon no Mago: Hyakki Ryouran Taisen" 👀
I met Griffybones and Traweezie through these games. I helped out with getting the final updates to allow crossplay using a modded 3DS and also helped hunt for the store exclusive assists that we thought were lost to time. I also helped put up translations for the menus and some guides to help newcomers get started. Griffy and Jape really put the effort in and I commend them, I wish life hadn't gotten in the way making me leave for a couple years. I was super sad to hear that Jape passed away, he was a super sweet dude and I'll never forget him.
I'm glad these games are getting the attention they deserve. Thank you for making this wonderful video dude.
Nooo, Jape passed away? May he rest in peace.
I knew the guy from the SSBC Discord server, sometimes watched his streams, but then I kinda forgot about him and I also became inactive in that community. That was shocking to hear.
I appreciate the shoutout to Traw. Man was an absolute legend.
These two anime are actually awesome, they share some similarities so I think their aura works super well together.
Both scream for adventure, specially original DB, and both have a cast based on charisma and quirkiness in their own way.
Is it weird that I actually enjoyed Extreme Boutoden( or whatever) a lot more than DBFZ? Something about the way pacing and the limitations of the 3DS just made everything about the game feel so appropriate and rewarding. Great video. I never would have known about the cross over capabilities.
DBFZ isnt for everyone
I always wanted Arc Sys to rerelease these 2 games as 1 on console with the ability to choose from either side of the cast.
Having these games remastered with some tweaks on newer consoles could be great.
And make the crossover fight being playable on versus mode without pain a lot to get it work possible for a 2 3DS.
I've been waiting for them do to a console One Piece game after DBFZ, though at this point I feel like maybe they should just wait for the series to end at this point even if it is 5+ years away. But man, I'd gladly take these games getting a fused console port as a hold over for now. Would be such a great idea.
@@TheNamekianClownending of one piece lol nice joke
Every time I see someone mention a One Piece Fighting Game I always say ArcSys exclusively because of this game
So Fighterz got some animations from this game, I'm honestly pretty impressed and shocked that this wasn't introduced in the west.
I love your videos being a sort of celebration to fighting games, it's really cool to see more casual oriented fighting game vids after getting into Rev 2 and 3rd Strike a few months ago, DBZ is something I got into long ago but not really into anymore and I haven't gotten into One Piece but I assure you that I love seeing crazy shit being done in fighting games and the list of stuff you can do here is no exception.
Thank you!
One of my issues with fighting game RUclips is that it's all geared towards people who are already invested in the genre, so I try to make stuff that anyone of any skill level can appreciate! Thanks for watching
I was excited to watch this video and learn about this crossover, especially knowing that there are so many underrated DBZ games for handheld consoles. Hearing about Traweezie was super unexpected and made me emotional. I knew him for almost ten years. I'm so glad that he was able to leave an imprint in so many different communities and shed light on so many games. Thanks for the very informative video, hopefully it brings more attention to this game :)
Man I desperately want ArcSys to work on a fighterZ styled One Piece game. They've already made this game so there's still hope that someday they might make it again.
Personally I'm just wanting a Shonen Jump crossover game that isn't an arena fighter. And features Rosario+Vampire characters.
@@otaking3582 your a one piece hater and want that trash lmao
nice work covering these games as always.
RIP Jape/Traweezie
It nearly made me tear up seeing someone cover this game. I was SUPER invested in this back when I got it around a month or so after the US release. I remember seeing the crossover update to Extreme Butouden and Great Pirate Colosseum and thought it was absolutely insane and I wished for it to come over and get localized, but unfortunately it never happened. Eventually this game just became a memory in the back of my head, nobody to play with, couldn't emulate it, and even when I was able to, there was no local multiplayer, so it was a useless endeavor in the end. But it was still a really cool game, and I was always wishing they'd make a One Piece FighterZ equivalent and do it all over again lmao
What made this more amazing than the crossover itself is that it was two different games combined to make one
Imagine if somehow FighterZ and Strive did that (Like the Goku mod in Strive)
Not a good idea, they have little to do with each other, much less than DB vs OP. Better leave Arcsys create another new anime fg and then let it crossover with DBFZ. Or else just bring an actual anime crossover. Like Capcom started with X-Men only and the turned it into a crossover in the next game.
@@carlosaugusto9821 and what does x men have to do with street fighter?
Thank you Guile so much for breathing even more life into these absolutely wonderful games. Really, I'm so happy the server is getting so many new (and returning) faces. One of my favorite games ever and I'm so glad it's starting to get the attention it deserves :)
Thank you for watchin!!!! 🙇🏼🙇🏼🙇🏼
One day there will be a decent Saint Seiya fighter and it'll be dope. Mark my words
The PS2 games are OK imo.
I've been waiting for a SS fighter like that for so many years... Ps2 and UC are fine tho.
Soldier's Soul isn't that deep, but I enjoyed it despite not knowing much about the franchise beforehand. Besides, there's always M.U.G.E.N.
when that happens I'll preorder that shit day one and it better come with all five mains, the two silver gals, a handful of golds, and voices in four different languages (JP, H-Town EN, LatAm SP, Brazil PT)
Thanks Guile, as a fighting game fan, dbz and one piece as you, you light me up my heart with a tremendous flame with this game i didn't even know about (I did know that extreme butoden existed but not like THIS). Thanks for everything I'm gonna play like a monkey all day.
5:30 Don't forget that grown man dressed as a baby doing a suplex is also one of the best assists in the game, and near unseeable during action
You mean, that thing he said later in the video?
@@ggbhtgYeah, that, may have jumped the gun a bit
He's so hard boiled...
As always great video, I just love it when these niche games just get picked up by a passionate community and get labbed, played and shown love
I always like seeing games that separate assist characters from the playable cast, it's such a good way to include characters that would never get a chance at being in this type of game otherwise. It's a shame it's probably less economical to do that now that 3d graphics are the standard.
I wish Konami decided to do a Yugioh Fighting Game based on the monsters and lore, I want to play as Summoned Skull throwing lightning and punching stuff.
Okay now that's an amazing idea I hadn't seen before!!! I'd kill for that
@@GuileWinQuote there are people doing Fan Theories and Lists of what monsters they would like to see. Some of them even brought the idea of giant Fighters like Tatsunoko vs Capcom for monsters like Gate Guardian or Ancient Gear Golem.
Traweezie being mentioned really made my day, Thank you for this amazing video.
so glad people are talking about these games. i cant even explain how many hours ive played these games without anoyone to playwith except for my brother sometimes. i theory crafted combos made tier lists and all that stuff. i thought i was the only one who cared about these games. thanks for making this video and for the discord link new sub
Thanks for watching!!
@@GuileWinQuote no prob was a great watch
Dude, first off, amazing intro!
Thank you!!! I hope it brought a smile to all the One Piece diehards!!!!
Hold on babe, new guilewinquote video just dropped.
Everyday, I'm finding more fighting games that I had no idea existed and I freaking LOVE IT!!
Same
Rip traweezie
Traweezie was a guy that played just about everything, RIP
God, I would LOVE to play a One Piece game developed by ArcSys again in the same engine as FighterZ.
Amazing video as always. I definitely played Dragon Ball Z Extreme Butoden alot back when it first came out. Was kind of hard to play on the original 2DS but I made it work LOL. Loved playing as Adult Gohan and Super Saiyan God Goku. Also loved the fact that its apart of the Butoden Series. One day you should cover the Dragon Ball Kai Ultimate Butoden game for the 3DS. I wonder how deep those game mechanics go??💥
Actually DBK:UB was a DS game, which is insanely impressive and ambitious, albeit probably not the best decision.
Ultimate Butoden wasn't really a "real fighter", although i'm all in for more people decovering and covering that game.
I played the hell out of Ultimate Butoden when it first came out, and honestly when I first played Extreme I was disappointed it wasn't more like Ultimate! I need to go back to it and check it out again
"I saw a grown man dressed as a baby doing a suplex to someone from the sky"
That's a rare sentence, but a very One-piece to say.
Had no idea either of these existed... I gotta play them for the sprite work alone! But mechanically Im impressed with how fun both look.
Ah yes, Fighterz before Fighterz. Glad I got a 2DS XL when I had the chance.
I’m so glad someone finally did a deep dive on this after years of just scouring for matches of these two games together! Arcsys has to do it one more time!!! ‼️❗️❕
One piece fighterz
I know it's not the topic, but this game reminded me of another awesome Fighter on the DS called Jump Super Stars and Jump Ultimate Stars. Released only in Japan, It plays like Smash brothers with HP and Assists, but with all of Jump's big manga characters. To be honest I think in terms of systems and mechanics, it's one of the more unique fighters. You build your team by filling up squares of a manga panel for instance, and the arenas boundaries are within the pages of a manga comic book that you can break open. For the DS it was one of my most treasured games after MKDS. I say you check that one out next.
Stick around for my next video then 🤫
Shoutouts to Griffy
When're we doing a Merfight vid? Indie fighters in general?
I remember being hyped for EB as a Dragon Ball fan and also because it was the first traditional 3DS fighter in like 4 years, and I originally played a lot of Street Fighter 4 or DOA Dimensions on it so I was dissapointed to see the console not getting anything after that and all the fighters being on the Vita instead, but in the end I didn't pick it up because of the middling reviews. Now your comments makes me think I maybe should have picked it up regardless of that.
1:54 Goku EXPLICITELY aimed that 1 inch punch to his opponent balls
1:12 I’m glad you giving OJ2 some respect and credit, even if it’s small it’s appreciated in this community.
It's fun as hell and feels good!!!!!
DOOOOD!! Awesome video!!
That wild OP fan fighter would be a fun video
I have to support that community!! They are VERY wholesome and know what they’re doing!
Seeing videos like these make me wish I was older back then
One Piece Fighting Adventure mentioned, lets gooooo. Great video! I might try Great Pirate Colosseum one day because I saw that Chopper is top 2 lol.
It's so fun to just sit in the lab on Fighting Adventure, even characters I didn't think I'd care for like Mr. 3 are so fun.
And yeah...chopper is a nightmare in this games lol
You briefly touched on this, but Isn't there also a CvS1-esc ratio system, where all the characters have a set ratio? I haven't played it myself, but the idea of balancing a character's tools based on their ratio seems pretty interesting, rather than just scaling their damage/health like CvS2. Like an intentional version of the fan-made ratio rules for MvC2, having characters being intentionally over/undertuned depending on their cost
Not sure how much I'd actually like a system like that, cause I like when everyone is on roughly equal footing, but it seems like an interesting idea at the very least. Like what if you could get an anime-esc airdasher in a relatively grounded game for a slightly higher cost than normal? Or picking a shitty joke character to give yourself more room for better characters, or just spamming like 4-5 low-cost characters like CvS1? Or maybe even spending all of your points to play as a super OP final boss?
Yeah I originally had a whole section of the script explaining the ratio system, But when you play crossover matches the ratio system is removed, and if you play the standard team size it's never a hindrance so I decided not to explain it.
It more so affects single player stuff and matches before everything is unlocked and doesn't really affect actual games against other people.
All in all though I hate the idea haha, I don't think it's ever been done in a good way
Thank god someone made a video breaking down these two games i've been a fan of them for years thank you for this video my good sir!
Thank you for making this video! I love this game to bits and thought I was the only person to play it
The wildest thing is, I was looking around for any good gameplay found online. And here I am seeing someone go over the cross feature
This video was simply amazing, the wait was worth it 👌
Dragon Ball itself can also get pretty ridiculous, but respect for reading One Piece before getting into the game fully. Earned a like and sub.
I had Extreme Butoden, never realized it was an Arc Sys game. As a kid I really loved it, certainly not a very in depth fighter but it was always super fun.
i imagine the exclusive rosters in each game chosing which game for what charecters and assist its in own meta even tho having and one with all package would prolly be more comfturble
Man this game is so crazy and fun i really love things like ssj goku teleport loops,base vegeta being able to delete almost all of your hp in the corner,cell deleting your HP with his kick loops and his version of big bang attack from full screen,ssj 2 kid gohan being able to spam his kicks on the air,vegeta dance assist giving you like 125% ki for free
thank you for this amazing video and thanks for eternally dabbing on dsp
First great video. Next, I like that you can see the skeleton that will become dbz fighterz as some of the animations and the game mechanics are in that game as well. That being said I hope they make a shonen jump fighting game as the sequel as opposed to a new dbz however with that making the money it did I'm not all that surprised.
Found this video through someone linking it on twitter. Great stuff, man! If SF6 wasn't coming out this week, I'd be jumping on this right away!
lmfao seeing Senor Pink without context must've been a trip
So many of the moves from this game are just lifted right into DBFZ its crazy
I fell like showing a picture of Senior Pink is a test by itself to tell who read one piece and how far they read it.
Also the different assist between the games is as accurate you can think off with the Dragonball character as only having simple but powerful skills while One Piece characters have unique but less damaging skill (damaging by itself, can't say the same after some of those combos)
Best channel on RUclips
Thank you for the support 🙇🏼
1:55 AYO GOKU WHAT YOU DOIN BRO?!
Beautiful work as always GWQ. 😭
I’ve always wanted to play a one piece 2d fighter and this looks super rad honestly I’m super interested in seeing how many silly assists there are(hoping for the goat gaimon), as a long time one piece fan I’m looking forward into jumping into this game great video as always!!!
This is kinda like Ultimate Muscle GCN, a basic and plain 3D fighter, but once you get the assist/support meta you can unlock the craziest stuff in the game
I need to spend some time on that game, it's one of the only ones I haven't touched at ALL
@@GuileWinQuote On this channel I have labbed it and played online for quite a while, is an action-reaction type of fg, kinda like Toy Fighter, but with A LOT of footsies and oki
Crazy how the some of the same animations carried over to DBFZ
It's honestly really cool to see a video game being able to be played with another completely separate but similar video game.
I played SO MUCH of the demo as a kid (which had Goku, Vegeta, Teen Gohan and Buu I believe)
It was one of those demos that had limited uses so I lefts it open constantly to get the most possible out of it
I checked and I still have like 7/20 uses left from how much I left it on 😂
XD
Exact same lmao
I have had two ideas for anime fighting games that I would love to see Arc System Works do: Sailor Moon (like the one did on SNES) and a crossover with Rumiko Takahashi series (Urusei Yatsura, Ranma, Inuyasha).
I'm amazed at the ammount of characters i'm seeing on the One Piece game, i saw characters i wouldn't even think to add to a one piece fighting game even as an assist.
god I love Gild Tesoro's blinged-out Aegis Reflector in this game lmao
I wish some day they make a port/remaster where we can freely choose characters from both games.
4:22 I feel like this is how ANY forgotten/underrated fighting game experiences a resurgence in interest and/or popularity; someone actually takes time out of their day to mess around with the game and thus they discover all the nutty shit you can do in it X33
It would be awesome if they ported these games already combined with more balancing and maybe even more characters for the switch
Both games look like fun games and big loveletters to their respective franchises!
Might try out the One Piece one someday... whenever I'm up to date with the Dressrosa arc
I remember having a lot of fun with Extreme Butoden's story mode when it came out, and of course thinking the sprite work was beautiful. Like you, by the time online play dropped I had already kinda moved on to other games plus the idea of playing online over wifi as bad as the 3DS's wifi speeds were wasn't exactly exciting. I do remember seeing combo videos posted back in 2015 and thinking what could be done in the game was cool, and then later seeing the announcement that it would work with the One Piece game and just wondering who that was for. It's cool to see that it's actually still played today. Some sort of combo pack remaster allowing full crossover gameplay on modern consoles would be awesome.
I discovered this game with GriffyBones clips as well and was dying to se a video of it here, didn't dissapoint in the slightest, as a One Piece and not Dragon Ball fan I only checked out Pirate Colosseum and had a lot of fun, kinda want to jump online but don't know if being in Brazil you affect the connection.
Another thing that made me really happy was looking at pretty much every tier list and seeing Chopper, my favorite One Piece character pretty high up, way to go doctor! One last thing, Vivi is an assist and I'll play/watch/read anything that she's in, I don't care if she's good or not, she's fixed on any team I play
i hope someone makes a romhack that contains all of the characters from both games
So glad more people are learning about this little game.
Man, with modern DLC type content, and fighters that come out and then have 1-2 years of DLC character addons, it'd be so cool to see them drop a One Piece game that is engine compatible with FighterZ, and if you own FighterZ then you can import characters over no problem. They would probably want to have separate online brackets for "mixed" and "One Piece only" though.
another great video, love your content man.
This means a lot! Thank you for watching 🙇🏼🙇🏼🙇🏼🙇🏼
These games are some of the coolest fighting games I've ever seen the idea of a crossover is nuts only arcsys could snap like this
I love the Guile wanted poster! Hilarious 😂
Awesome video as always! Really enjoyed this one
You mentioned arena fighters and that got me thinking, did you ever play any of the Virtual-On games or the Gundam Extreme VS. games? I really love both, they're a lot of fun
reads one piece to play a region locked 3ds game. Guile is a chad above the rest.
Goku riding a tractor.
'nuff said. I'm gonna get all my friends to emulate this.
damn i didnt even know this was real :0
great vid man
All you had to do was tell me Goku and his tractor appear as an assist in this game :O
Somehow this is in-between the 3d arena fighter (with the command being the same for every characters, but the results of theses command being character specifics) and the "serious" 2d fighters.
The team building system was already done somehow in KOF 01, by Eolith (Korean dev) when SNK was dead. But a little more limited: it's a 4v4 game and you can choose 1 to 4 chars to play, and the rest will be assist only.
So this game's system is a kind of progression of KOF 01's system mixed with CvS2's flexibility of choosing less characters if desired.
It blows my mind that something like this even exists and I didn’t know for so long! I’ve always wanted One Piece to get the FighrerZ treatment. Hopefully talk about it will prompt Arc Systems to do it! I’m getting into this ASAP!