A Hunt for MGS1 Secrets Lost to the West

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    24 (!) years ago, Hideo Kojima's KCE Japan reinvented the modern video game with the legendary METAL GEAR SOLID. But what were some of the game's deeper, more local secrets and allusions we in the English-speaking West by and large simply failed to catch?
    In this, part one in a new series by Futurasound Productions, we delve into the many major (yet subtle) ways MGS1 evoked or referenced Kojima games that remained as of 1998, playable only in Japan.
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Комментарии • 94

  • @ProjectTony
    @ProjectTony 2 года назад +57

    "We'll keep you in the stockade until you're a very old man!"
    Snake: "That won't be long."

    • @evanabbott2737
      @evanabbott2737 Год назад

      “Jesus, how many times do I have to save the world for you guys??”

  • @SnakeHiggins
    @SnakeHiggins 2 года назад +44

    MGS1 is just packed to the brim with Easter eggs and little subtle details. I've played all the way through it at least 50 times and countless unfinished runs and if you factor in Twin Snakes were talking closer to 100 times, and I still to the day discover things I never knew or picked up on. Great Video as always Boss! 👍

  • @heartbeatsdrum
    @heartbeatsdrum 2 года назад +6

    I hope you're happy dude. Because of your channel, I bought MGS: Ground Zeroes on Steam (already owned V), another PS2, MGS, MGS 2, and MGS 3:Subsistence. Really though, the way you paint the series' brilliance is why i just had to own them again.

  • @benenwren4110
    @benenwren4110 2 года назад +18

    It blows my mind how much of this beloved series remains untranslated.
    Have you considered going over the Snake Eater commentary?

  • @chrisbutler1668
    @chrisbutler1668 2 года назад +2

    I will never forget opening up a brand new PS1, and putting in the demo disc that came in the box with a variety of demos you could play and some trailers you could watch that were promotional tools for upcoming games. The first game I selected to play was Metal Gear Solid. That was the day where life as I knew was changed forever.

  • @DjDolHaus86
    @DjDolHaus86 Год назад +1

    I loved the context specific codec calls because for whatever reason I didn't particularly like progressing in games and having a bunch of people to call was a great distraction, being rewarded with more information or lore while I was procrastinating was a joy

  • @PosthumanHeresy
    @PosthumanHeresy 8 месяцев назад +1

    I like to think the "Evil Campbell" scene is one of Snake's PTSD nightmares. Like, "what if I tried to refuse harder?" I could see Kojima including something like that in that way, though it's also metacommentary on player behavior. Skipping cutscenes, "I just wanna play" behavior, being equated to Snake being just like Big Boss in this way. It's just, it has that extreme meta nature while feeling weirdly foreshadowing despite that not being planned.

  • @BrianM_3rd
    @BrianM_3rd 2 года назад +5

    Always love discovering new rare codecs, never heard those funny cold calls before. I noticed MGS1 even uses the same font as Policenauts. That's a serious commitment to artistic continuity.

  • @kingkeefage
    @kingkeefage 2 года назад +2

    "You're a natural born soldier. You're not the 'grow old gracefully' type." - Psycho Campbell(?)

  • @Martin-jk2ng
    @Martin-jk2ng 2 года назад +10

    Fantastic content, Jorin. The codec in MGS1 still amazes me. I had many playthroughs where it took forever just because I wanted to hear all the codec convos. This is a great reminder of those days

  • @abdulqudz89
    @abdulqudz89 2 года назад +3

    for a console that could only hold so much memory, i'm impressed that konami managed to fit in all the easter eggs and conversations in an excellent, classic masterpiece.

  • @mrmalcolm
    @mrmalcolm 2 года назад +2

    Lol Snakes cold voice is hilarious

  • @knightshousegames
    @knightshousegames 2 года назад +2

    The Policenauts song in the beginning made me go on a wild goose chase for that theme, because that was one of my favorite tracks to play in MGO2

  • @davi55x
    @davi55x 2 года назад +5

    Gray Fox's helmet reads "TOKUGAWA HEAVY INDUSTRY"

  • @PlebNC
    @PlebNC 2 года назад +3

    The balls on the guy from Policenauts for smoking a cigarette inside a spacesuit.

  • @nivlacyevips
    @nivlacyevips 2 года назад +5

    I really enjoy this format - when I am looking for a hideo to kill time it’s often important for the elapsed time to coincide with my free time. I also like the raw content to stir up the memories.

  • @jamesbrincefield9879
    @jamesbrincefield9879 2 года назад +3

    It’s amazing how much I still regularly learn about this series despite the hundreds of hours I’ve spent playing it and reading/watching videos about it over the past 25 years.

  • @modder15
    @modder15 2 года назад +2

    Having all these optional recordings, messages and info is just an indication of a well designed game.

  • @knightshousegames
    @knightshousegames 2 года назад +5

    One of the facts I heard about recently: Apparently for the Japanese Exclusive PocketStation mini console (which was an accessory that was SUPPOSED to come to the US, to the point that the American version of FFVIII had instructions for a chocobo minigame on PocketStation that American players could never play) there was some sort of way to "infect" your PocketStation with FoxDie. Not sure what that entailed, but apparently it was a thing
    Also, Otacon's office has a PS1 in it. In Twin Snakes the PS1 becomes a Gamecube.
    Also, you know that parachute you see in MGS4 slung over the tree next to where you find the crashed Hind? Yeah, that parachute is visible in MGS1. Along one of the walls if you look with Binoculars, you can see the tree with the parachute. No hind wreckage though. Theres a Codec call if you find it.

  • @SammEater
    @SammEater Год назад +1

    I've replayed it so many times and there is always something else that I never knew, some dialogue that I never heard before or something hidden in a corner. That's why I will always like MGS1, it has such a unique vibe to it that even the later games couldn't exactly replicate it.

  • @MerryOlSoulGigglesmith
    @MerryOlSoulGigglesmith 2 года назад +5

    What a treat on this bitter winters day 👍

  • @sivolcconti83
    @sivolcconti83 2 года назад +13

    I would love more videos on this series.

  • @Wilson_Kelly
    @Wilson_Kelly 2 года назад +3

    The music in this vid is damn good

  • @oneupdawg
    @oneupdawg 2 года назад +1

    I think I speak from everyone when I say this but we really appreciate these videos. Your love for all things Metal Gear is palatable and its fantastic for huge fans like us. Keep going, Boss!

  • @GAMNGgeek
    @GAMNGgeek 2 года назад +2

    @1:06 I would have thought the docs starting to MGS1 is a reference to the original 1987 metal gear, as solid snake first emerges from the water to infiltrate Outer Heaven

  • @ogpimpwildin6897
    @ogpimpwildin6897 Год назад

    I love the ost for policenauts and snatcher so much. Love how you implement them into your videos

  • @deadspacho3064
    @deadspacho3064 2 года назад +3

    Pretty casual overall, greatly enjoyed it. Hope to see more in the future!

  • @etaoinshrdlu927
    @etaoinshrdlu927 2 года назад +14

    I'd also be interested in what the original MG games lost in translation; I know character limits for Japanese vs English meant a lot of dialogue and plot had to be cut to fit.

  • @samuelmitchell6230
    @samuelmitchell6230 2 года назад +1

    love the idea for a new series! It is hard to believe that there is still so much to uncover in these games.

  • @spencermoore1457
    @spencermoore1457 2 года назад +1

    I always wondered what it would be like to be Japanese or to have played his previous games to catch all the information that Kojima was trying to convey. Thank you so much for making something that I never thought would happen into a reality. Really enjoying this series so far 👍🏻

  • @AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
    @AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL 2 года назад +6

    I always thought it was weird Naomi talks about antibiotics when you catch a cold. I always wondered if it was a side effect of foxdie and the cold medicine was just placebo.

    • @bloodgulchpatrick
      @bloodgulchpatrick 9 месяцев назад

      Thing is, antibiotics don't work on viruses, they kill bacteria.
      Cold medicine doesn't really "cure" a cold, it helps your body, while your immune system fights the infection.

  • @rommielee5888
    @rommielee5888 2 года назад +1

    Wow I never knew about the cold codec calls, and I used to play MGS1 all the time growing up. Snake sounds so funny congested xD

  • @Meandmyshadowclones
    @Meandmyshadowclones 2 года назад +25

    Love the presentation, but a lot of these are tenuous parallels AT BEST. A steaming grate being used in the Heliport is a reference to the opening of Policenauts? Seriously?

    • @jonnyedge7094
      @jonnyedge7094 2 года назад +10

      I have to agree, there’s a lot of “links” here that are really weak. No doubt there’s plenty of references between works published by Kojima and his team, but the searching in this video is getting a bit desperate.
      We’ve also no way of knowing if reusing certain things was just a simple matter of saving time or effort in building the works.
      I enjoy these videos a lot, but would appreciate more substance and less speculation, I think if this was an article in a publication the editor would send it back for more work and edits.

  • @FishRepair
    @FishRepair 2 года назад +1

    Was waiting for a video like this for mgs

  • @guilhermecaiado5384
    @guilhermecaiado5384 2 года назад +1

    I consider MGS the best game ever made.
    Im proud to own a phisical copy.

  • @itspak7960
    @itspak7960 2 года назад +1

    Yes! Love the MGS content great video!

  • @cameron.offline
    @cameron.offline 2 года назад +1

    keep these coming!

  • @bricktimelapsebuilds
    @bricktimelapsebuilds Год назад +1

    So Tokugawa Heavy industries like on the helmet of grey fox is a nod to policenauts? nice

  • @StegDarkhorse
    @StegDarkhorse 2 года назад

    I'm down for more of this series.

  • @ThomasBrankin
    @ThomasBrankin 2 года назад +1

    The history of colonel Campbell would really interest me. Is it possible that he knows more about the truth but he can't say it because zero's ai is always aware??

  • @MCENTRAL8G
    @MCENTRAL8G 2 года назад

    This is gold man

  • @kbrocks1
    @kbrocks1 2 года назад +1

    Good job boss.

  • @janx7104
    @janx7104 2 года назад +1

    Thanks jorin

  • @__tengu__
    @__tengu__ 2 года назад

    The chaff grenade floaties is a call to Snow-9 from Snatcher. Both of which jams radar.

  • @smith6752
    @smith6752 2 года назад +1

    oh nice, a video on metal gear solid, for a change

    • @smith6752
      @smith6752 2 года назад

      in b4 orwell reference

  • @FloridaManFrank
    @FloridaManFrank 11 месяцев назад

    Not many people know this but the Japanese version of metal gear had an ez gun just like snake eater and it was the mp5sd which was finally made available for mgs4

  • @danfish88
    @danfish88 Год назад +1

    If you go to Japan buying second had retro games can be super cheap. In Japan they don’t really have a retro gaming/collecting scene like they do in the west. In part I would imagine this is why Nintendo aren’t super keen to revisit past titles. It’s a difference of mindset?

  • @tomhoward4905
    @tomhoward4905 2 года назад

    Policenauts really is a masterpiece in atmosphere and storytelling

  • @chilldude30
    @chilldude30 2 года назад +8

    Instant click

  • @greenhowie
    @greenhowie 2 года назад

    A forklift truck is a poor substitute for EMPS

  • @MessiahProphylaxis
    @MessiahProphylaxis 2 года назад +3

    I feel as though there is some potential for a conspiratorial MGS 'Petscop'-esque creepy pasta. We have the technology.

  • @greenhowie
    @greenhowie 2 года назад

    Wow that Tokugawa bit made me do a double take - sounds almost exactly like a track from Front Mission 3. Was it the same composer?

  • @MCHH-ml2qq
    @MCHH-ml2qq 2 года назад +6

    Heres a secret thats been lost to the west, go play Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake best game in the series that nobody ever plays.
    No seriously, just play it.

    • @SnakeHiggins
      @SnakeHiggins 2 года назад +4

      No doubt man. I think MG2 has the best soundtrack ever in an 8 bit title. We need a full on remake badly.

    • @MCHH-ml2qq
      @MCHH-ml2qq 2 года назад +2

      @@SnakeHiggins MG2 is such a badass game it dont even need a remake, just a re-release unless you have a PS2/PS3 like myself or willing to emulate it on PC kind of screwed. They released the original MG on GOG but the original MG2 on MSX never had an official English release its been Japan only for over 30 years. The more modern release on PS2/PS3 is still basically the same game but made several changes to fit in more with the Solid games.

    • @SnakeHiggins
      @SnakeHiggins 2 года назад +1

      @@MCHH-ml2qq Yeah I remember buying MGS3 Subsistence just for the MG2 English version, but personally a large part of me prefers the translated Japanse version for the original character designs. Mel Gibson Solid Snake and Sean Connery Big Boss was just too damn cool. Hell I remember bidding on a complete Japanese version of the game just to have it about a decade ago and getting outbid at the very last second.

    • @MCHH-ml2qq
      @MCHH-ml2qq 2 года назад +1

      @@SnakeHiggins yeah the only way to play the translated Japanese original is on an MSX emulator, thats how I first played it over 10 years ago and immediately became my favorite in the series even after playing through the newer MGS games several times over. I still have an original MSX copy of MG2 I picked up on ebay years ago but cost me over $500 and now they've gone up to over $1000 in price now. The real life character portraits were the best part Mel Gibson and Sean Connery in a Metal Gear game will never get old 😂.

    • @thats_not_glue
      @thats_not_glue 2 года назад

      I played it on the legacy collection on PS3 last year, replaying it on subsistence ps2, 2nd favorite mgs behind sons of liberty.

  • @__tengu__
    @__tengu__ 2 года назад

    12:54 whats is this song called? It slaps.

  • @__tengu__
    @__tengu__ 2 года назад

    Snake referring to grenades as pineapples is a call back to MG2:SS on MSX when the children in Zanzibar land would refer to grenades as pineapples.

    • @knightshousegames
      @knightshousegames 2 года назад +2

      I mean, "pineapple" is just a colloquial term for fragmentation grenades outside of MGS, due to the scoring on the case

    • @__tengu__
      @__tengu__ 2 года назад

      @@knightshousegames ruclips.net/video/awUmGQYWs54/видео.html 1:26:25 i was referring to this.

    • @knightshousegames
      @knightshousegames 2 года назад

      @@__tengu__ And I in turn was referencing this:
      upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/MkII_07.JPG
      The MK2 hand grenade from World War 2 had that characteristic scoring on it's case so that when it exploded, it maximized the amount of fragments it would break into, and that look combined with it's elongated shape makes it look like a pineapple, which is what guys started calling them. Then the term just got used to refer to all frag grenades, even though these days they do the scoring inside the case with strips of wire.
      I know it was used in MG2, I'm just saying the colloquialism predates the franchise in general.

    • @__tengu__
      @__tengu__ 2 года назад

      @@knightshousegames lmao

  • @nono-nt8je
    @nono-nt8je 2 года назад +2

    Does anybody find the briefing videos sort of creepy?

  • @AGuyeightyONE
    @AGuyeightyONE 2 года назад

    Nice

  • @freesheep0
    @freesheep0 2 года назад

    Yay!

  • @user-yu4sv9ff9w
    @user-yu4sv9ff9w 2 года назад

    snatchers appear in mgsv raiden mission

  • @kevinmc3252
    @kevinmc3252 2 года назад +1

    pls finish gta vice city 1984 video essays they were great, love mgs content too tho

  • @PhilosophersLegacy83
    @PhilosophersLegacy83 Год назад

    👍👍

  • @reaperiwk7555
    @reaperiwk7555 2 года назад +1

    Why's snake blonde in the interrogation/ incarceration cutscene

  • @eggyolkeo6422
    @eggyolkeo6422 2 года назад

    Why don't you do a video on Mgo 1,2,3?

  • @AJZulu
    @AJZulu 2 года назад

    For the algorithm

  • @Nat3_H1gg3rs
    @Nat3_H1gg3rs 2 года назад

    Me rikey

  • @SYLRMHA
    @SYLRMHA 2 года назад +1

    First for the algo

  • @lankey6969
    @lankey6969 Год назад +1

    steam grate? Really? C'mon

    • @LiquidSevens
      @LiquidSevens Год назад

      practically every video this guy makes is full of grabbing similarities out of thin air, i just come watch these vids when i need a good hearty laugh

  • @papabaer6069
    @papabaer6069 2 года назад +1

    Instant like

  • @cyxceven
    @cyxceven 2 года назад +1

    oh man
    get to the point

  • @Ragucci25
    @Ragucci25 2 года назад +1

    Wasn't a fan of this format need some more commentary far too much letting clips play.

  • @cjfox7674
    @cjfox7674 2 года назад

    A video essay brought to you by reddit

  • @fb1179
    @fb1179 2 года назад +5

    Secrets Lost to the West? I thought this would be secrets that were buried by translation or something. Very clickbaity.
    The vid is mostly codec calls and extended footage use... This is your tablescraps smashed together into a minimum viable video.
    This channel used to be good, good luck.

  • @yourmomshouse6984
    @yourmomshouse6984 2 года назад

    This channel moves further left with every video. Thanks for politicizing my favorite series 😐