Powerlifters, Watch Out!!!
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Olympic champion and five-time world champion Kuo Hsing-chun squats up to 190kg/418lbs, more than the world record in the IPF classic -57kg division. Kuo Hsing-chun has extremely strong legs, holding all world records in the -59kg category. Kuo Hsing-chun is arguably the best weightlifter in the world. This training session is from the World Weightlifting Championships 2022.
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You could make a video telling about the difference of the shapes in 109+ division.
Pissarenko x Rezazadeh x Lasha
The Taiwanese Gold Medal Olympic weightlifter to powerlifter has already been done. Chen Wei-ling won a gold in 2008 and won IPF worlds in both equipped and non-equipped lifting. She totaled 500kg single ply and 407kg raw in the 47kg weight class.
Info 😅
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Wei-ling
It's quite common for top level weighlifters to go into powerlifting after they retire, like Oleg Perepetchenov or Mikhail Koklyaev. However Chen Wei Ling is probably the only one in history to be Olympic and IPF champion. And without a doubt the only one to do both just one year apart. She was training and competing at the top level of both sports simultaneously, for years. However she technically didn't win the Olympics on the day, she went from third to first after doping bans. And even then I'm still certain no one else has medalled at the Olympics and been IPF world champion in the span of a year, or perhaps at all.
Chen Wei ling
Someone forgot to tell her that squatting those weights isn't supposed to look that easy.
someone forget that ALL this athletes are on PEDs
@@Ale55andr082 sure but it's still crazy, and I don't think she's on a lot of stuff
@Ale55andr082 no because you don't do it , nobody can't do it . Maybe she's doing clean. And even with that she is strong . 💪🏽
@@Ale55andr082 I wouldn't be able to squat that weight even if I was on ALL the PEDs and I'm a 80kg guy 🤣
@@Ale55andr082 yeah just like most powerlifters and bodybuilders lol
That’s absolutely nuts..
She’s so smooth and casual about the weight. If it was a serious session imagine what lifts she could really make if she was trying to.
Just amazing ❤❤❤
The best make the incredible look easy.
she is trying. it's just that in weightlifting, they don't allow much technical shaking or breakdown so when they hit these "PL WR lifts" it'll look like a walk in the park.
@@ryanreviews8566 yeah. I think what the original commenter is implying, is that to go this heavy right before a competition, Kuo isn't worried about the fatigue and could lift much more if she was trying to.
The biggest adjustment would be having to switch to a 20kg stiff bar that they use in the IPF, which will probably be a big change for her deadlift if shes used to using a thinner, whippier 15kg bar. But with her squat numbers as they are, she'd likely take a squat gold at the IPF worlds but maybe not enough to win on total
Yeah I doubt she'd catch Jade or Joy on total...and certainly not Lya or Carola.
i thought they use 20kg olimpic bar, right?
Stiff bar honestly would probably help the squat once she got used to it.
@@JPMorgannn The women's Olympic bar weighs 15 kg and has a smaller diameter.
@@ΓιώργοςΣκοτεινιώτης as someone that has sometimes used a women's bar to squat heavy, because all the men's bar were already used, 15kg bar is not necessarily an advantage, especially for the squat as there is more pressure per square inch on your back .
I'd actually argue the other way around once she get used to a man's bar.
Ha, even her coach exclaimed “easy!” after that 190kg squat! Great video, love watching her lift.
It would be interesting to see weightlifters take part in powerlifting maybe during their off seasons. Using the stiff bars and steel plates might make a difference but they would get an advantage from using a powerlifting belt, proper knee sleeves and wrist wraps. If she could squat 220kgs, bench 80kgs and deadlift 185kgs she would be very competitive for a total medal but there are some great well rounded athletes right now in the 57kgs class so it would be tough.
Many weightlifters move to powerlifting after retirement as it’s easier. No power lifter has moved to weightlifting post career that I know of. I know a few powerlifters have moved over in their prime though.Shane hamman for one.
Given how optimal her proportions are for weightlifting (i.e. short femurs, long torso, short arms), she'd do well in squat and bench but ultimately would be at a decent disadvantage in deadlifts (which usually contributes the most to one's total + is the last lift so people can pull for the win).
I’m not knowledgeable in powerlifting nor do I care for it as deeply as weightlifting but could she not sumo deadlift instead?
@@thechosenone93 realistically the main advantage of sumo isn't the reduced range of motion, it's that it allows some (but not all) lifters to be in a more mechanically advantageous position
@@barnabaschun9514 Yeah. She might be great sumo puller... Or not. No way to tell before seeing her try it out.
@@Second247 well it is a pretty fair assumption somebody is going to be a sub-par deadlifter (regardless of deadlift stance) if they have a longer torso & shorter arms
Beautiful squat!
Could also casually take out some world records in strongwoman.
Imagine beating people (PL) who train the actual lift competitively with your accessory lift.. Squats are not even the priority of WL as the competition lifts are the snatch and the clean & jerk. You have to train these movements aside from squats vs people who just train the squat, bench and deadlift. To add, WL squats are no question below parallel unlike their PL counterparts that sometimes seemed a gray area if it is below parallel (good lift) or just parallel (no lift). Thick lever belts and tight SBD knee sleeves that PLifters use can easily add kgs which aren't used by WLifters when squatting.
Historically, PL was just an offshoot of WL. It was also started by weightlifters. This is why it is impossible to see two lifting sports in the Olympics. It will be too redundant with Weightlifting (the original) being more fast paced, exciting, and mind blowing.
Weightlifters (not just Kuo) can compete in PL just to break a record as they are breaking PL records on a normal training day. Perhaps the flex or prestige on being a WR powerlifter is not enough or worth it for them so they don't bother to even do it once. Being in the Olympics, even if not finishing in the top 3 seems more important for them than winning or becoming a record holder in PL.
Transitioning from high bar squat ( Olympic lifting)to low bar ( strength lifting) her numbers would increase straight away .
As a national level powerlifter, Olympic Weighlifters would be great competitors in the IPF. There are some minor changes such as different bars, different weights and different commands, etc. I'm sure any weightlifter can make the adjustments to them
Yeah, but after learning olympic weightlifting, why would somebody powerlift? Unless they get too old to weightlift, its like abandoning speed and technique to the game of “lets reduce rom”
@@Shakenbake-in9ux at this point it would just be a flex to let everyone in the powerlifting community know high level weightlifters are superior strength athletes
Awesome to hear you mention the legend Ivan! A true squatting legend.
Came to say the same!
That squat is smooth! This is the reason powerlifting will never make it to the Olympics, weightlifting is simply way harder. Weightlifter can easily train to be powerlifter and most powerlifter will never become weightlifters
She is fantastic and would surely do incredibly well in powerlifting. I will say, though, that one factor that I believe is often overlooked when comparing weightlifters to powerlifters, is the inevitable shift in weightclass that ocurrs between the sports. Powerlifters need significantly more upper body mass than weightlifters, which means that they can carry comparatively less lower body mass at a given weightclass. If a weightlifter wanted to do well in powerlifting they might sometimes have to add 5-10 kg in upper body mass while keeping the same leg size, hence competing at one or two weightclasses above where they are currently at. Said another way, we might have to look one or two weightclasses above to make a fair comparison of squat performance.
5-10kg!!
5-10 kg ? These numbers are pure rubbish just pulled out of your arse sir.
Do you even now what 10kg of pure muscle looks like ? The weightclasses aren't even the same btw.
Kuo would be -63 and have some room for weightgain.
Also women are considerably weaker from upper body than men so it would definitely be easier for a woman to transition successfully to PL, especially since the benchpress nowadays rewards more contorsionnism than strength, especially in the women's division ( even though the rules were "patched" in the good direction this year )
yeah this was seen with toshiki. when he competed he put up an insane squat, a pretty good deadlift, but just average bench. now that he’s training more for bodybuilding, he’s easily repping his max bench from his powerlifting days. but i think a much bigger issue is just how strict their form is. they sacrifice absolute weight for positions that translate better to the clean and snatch. which is perfect for weightlifting, but doesn’t go well in powerlifting. many weightlifters deadlift less than they squat because they keep a strict extended upper back position and utilize more leg drive rather than the posterior chain. many also don’t grind out heavy squats. some do, like the chinese, but i’ve seen a lot of weightlifters bail a squat they could’ve otherwise made because it slowed down.
05:14 Shrugs off a 190kg Squat like it was nothing. Then proceeds to smash out 165kg Squat for reps ... INSANE!
Those snatch pulls are a thing of beauty
Every weightlifter would do well in powerlifting. But next to no powerlifters could transition and complete on a world stage and probably not even on a national
Kuo would do fantastic her overall strength she would figure out the equipment her mental tough ness she is a very smart lifter plus I'm sure her and coach would put there own spin on training anything to do with weights she's a winner great role model she would probably bring some popularity into powerlifting awesome intelligent strong beautiful woman
She's got an awesome squat. Depth certainly wouldn't be a problem. The only thing I could think of that might pose an issue for her would be getting used to the stiffer bar. It probably wouldn't be an issue though as she doesn't dive-bomb her descent and she doesn't bounce out of the whole so I think it's really a moot point.
It's a joy watching her squat and inspirational
I train for general strength and the difficult. I use powerlifting programs but when I want to see a beautiful squat I watch weightlifters. When I want to see a beautiful deadlift I watch strongmen. When I want to watch a beautiful benchpress... bp sucks. I like powerlifting but it is not very beautiful.
The most incredible thing is that she actually squats the weight and doesn't just barely break parallel (if that). Such a strong athlete.
Strong, Gentle and Beautiful. In a word… Taiwanese! Go Kuo! Go!💪🏻💐💪🏻
Watching her work out is a treat. Excellent form in every lift she does. Note how deep she goes; all O lifters squat deep--ass to grass--on the back squat and, of course, the front squat. With powerlifters, they go down just past parallel and tend to use a much wider stance. She doesn't, and that shows just how strong she is. IDK what the PL record is for someone in her class in the squat, but if she decided to specialize, she could easily, IMO, set records.
Powerlifting records are mostly done by amateurs. People wanting to make a living out of strength sports usually do other things.
How does she have NO facial expressions everytime she squats?! Every videos of her, she consistently has a blank look on her face 👁️👄👁️
boyanka kostova casually front squats 190 in training in the old 58 kg class
Kuo’s Quads ❤️
The open world record Squat in 57kg class (Bobbie Butters) it.s 185.5kg and in the 63kg class the WR (Lya Bavoil) its 213kg so if she cuts to 57kg she could grab the record. If she changes to low bar and use a Lever belt she could probably squat even more with a little more depth making it a good lift in IPF
Don't forget the two sizes too small SBD kneepads...
I love how aesthetic weightlifters bodys are they have great posture, small waist, big legs
Her stance for power lifting is rather narrow. Her power out of the hole is great. I'm sure her max squat would be very competitive if she could.
It would be interesting to know what a wider stance and lower bar position would do.
Yeah, I'd imagine her max squat would be quite a bit higher if she transitioned to low bar with a thick powerlifting belt and a wider stance.
There are quite a few women powerlifters moving into narrow stance squats still with the bar set low on their backs though. If they have the hip and ankle flexibility it definitely works well.
@@WeightliftingHouse she would probably still do highbar. Wei Ling Chen still did highbar when she competed.
Look at Prescilla "Lya" Bavoil's squat stance, it's even narrower and she arguably has less advantageous leverages (Squated 213kg @ 62.6kg WR). Kuo Hsing-chun pull I'm guessing would still be really strong (Prescilla Bavoil's is 231kg @ 62.6kg WR). It would be if Kuo Hsing-chun could get her bench to a 110kg + situation at least I would expect.
Impresionante.
Tuve que verlo varias veces para creerlo.
Gracias por compartir.
Un cordial saludo.
Insane 418 at 132 lbs. More than 3 times her body weight. I think 400 lbs is great no matter who you are or what you weigh.
Her form is better than world top female powerlifters
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She is clearly a great squatter. I wouldnt be surprised if she could hit the 57 squat record. I think she would struggle badly with deadlifting on the 29mm Eleiko bar though.
The record in the 57s is 185.5 and 213kg in the 63s, held by French lifter Prescilla Bavoil. I believe Prescilla has done 220 or 225 in local meets or training.
One difference between top powerlifters and weightlifters is the level of governmental support. I know that lifters like Solfrid Koanda doesnt have a massive support system, but in general I think many of the best weightlifters have governmental support through their countrys olympic programme.
Powerlifters however are generally hobbyists, which training wise isnt a huge detractor. But it means that if they want to beat drug tests, they have to do it by themselves - with their own money.
And she goes ass to heels. Most powerlifters you see in competition seem to struggle to get to parallel.
WHAT A POWER-HOUSE! 🔥💯
One thing that isn't talked about, is their ped history, that is usually overlooked by the IPF.
I did the transition from powerlifting to weightlifting. Well i am still in the transition. I think for the rest of my life🤣
淳姐的活動度有夠軟Q的，不愧是我偶像(蹭>///
The high bar squat has so much carryover to every lift.
She is doing atg 190 which is I believe 5 kg higher than ipf world record by a French powerlifter
The 57s is held by a brit, 185.5. The 63 is by the French at 213.
PEDs are probably the answer lol. Powerlifters don't have state sponsored doping programs. Most powerlifters also begin as hobbyists, and not as athletes.
Impeccable form
I believe that the English language should adopt the name that Olympic Weightlifting has in Spanish, Halterofilia.
Haltero means weights, Filia means something you like, so Halterofilia could be a synonym of love for the weights.
That way people could stop arguing about being weightlifters in technicalities.
Did you mean Ray Williams?
She's the pride of Taiwan
World no.1 and do not need mask.
She's got some way to go to match Boyanka's 215 at 58kg bodyweight (nudge nudge, wink wink)
She literally kills all the powerlifter in the same category, even the greatest
My legs are hurting!! 😜 bravo 👏🏾
Powerlifting is more 'grind it out' whereas Weightlifting is far more explosive movement. Powerlifting is bench press, squat and deadlift. We have all seen Kuo squat huge weight with perfect form, going beyond parallel which is rarely done in Powerlifting. There is one of your videos where she easily deadlifted and shrugged at the top (although she didn't take the bar back down under control as they do in Powerlifting) 165kg. If she practiced deadlifting, I think 200kg would be easily within her reach. I've not seen her bench pressing in any video, so that may be the lift which would inhibit her progress in the sport of Powerlifting. That said, she has great upper body strength, so with some practice I think she would put up impressive numbers in the bench press as well.
What would she squat you ask? Well definitely more than me
郭婞淳她是台灣人的驕傲❤
Finally someone natural.
Perfect fooking form omg
Chinese government hasn´t managed to bribe the IPF yet🤣
Just kidding, but it seems weird that the Chinese, the dominant force in Olymipic Lifting, pretty much do not exist in Powerlifting.
The Chinese have special juice and you all know it. They are not that strong normally geneticially but almost all current records are
from Chinese lifters. Ofcourse most of them after they changed weightclasses but still......
It's impossible to know if she'd win without knowing her bench and deadlift, but I am inclined to say no, the 57 girls are pulling near 500 benching low mid 2s, and squatting around 4 at the world level. And Lya Bavoil is in the next weight class up and her squat is 470. It is amazing though, and it's high bar which makes it even crazier, since most powerlifters squat lowbar.
If you could translate this into metric units, 98% of the people would understand your comment right away.
@jeungbou if you can find youtube you can also find google. But the 57kg girls at the top deadlift 227, squat 182, and bench 105.
@@jeungbou 57kg deadlift record is 230kg. Bench 123kg. Squat 185.5kg. The next class up (63) is 213kg squat, bench 143.5kg and Deadlift 231kg.
Lebron did indeed have a football scholarship as a tight end if he wanted to pursue that
I know nothing about powerlifting, but I'm damn sure she would be able to lift my power.
her form is goals . holy crap…
I’m in love😍
What’s her cycle?
Music is better then voice
I wish I was the barbell
i know its you bennett foddy you cant hide you must pay for what you created
Bit unrelated but I think it’s annoying how powerlifters are seen as strong when they move weight a few inches but weightlifting is extremely fast,and vicious and ACTUALLY produces force but it’s less popular than powerlifting(to the point where in the gym people even mock weightlifting but will support certain powerlifters who don’t even care about form)
and all this with a high bar squat.... those quads are made of steel
Tbh you're starting to annoy me with your commentary
It's nice to see weightlifters or any lifters lifting heavy. That said, even in squat, many squat attempts by weightlifters would be deemed invalid. The foley of ass-to-grass or deep squatting is that many people immediately consider it as a valid squat attempt, when it is NOT. These are valid squat, in terms of weight training and other sports.
However, powerlifting rules are stricter and technical. After all, that is the sport itself. And yes, powerlifters aren't really the most appropriate gate keepers of such movement. They themselves have skewed the rules and techniques that it looks weird and absurd to regular lifting audience. It nonetheless rules out that the fact that most weightlifters' squat attempts would be deemed illegal or invalid in powerlifting rules. That should be fine. Weightlifters are weightlifting athletes, their sport is weightlifting.
Now you mention it I really want to see her enters a powerlifting meet 🤣
amazing power
As soon as she puts a 20kg power bar with no whip and metal plates on her back she'll probably squat 5-10% less. That said, with some specific training she'd still be able to take the squat record or at least close to it.
For bench obviously she'd need years of training to catch up to the specialists, if ever, and the deadlift will suffer the most, again because of power bar and plates, no straps and a more convincing lockout required in powerlifting.
If she wants to be a good all around lifter she'll have to bulk up and at the 63s there are freaks like Lya who she's years behind.
So the verdict is: Squat gold and maybe world record
Middling Bench
Middling DL
Maybe 4th or 5th if competition isn't too stiff
if she cuts 2kg from her WL weight class to the IPF 57kg she would go against the likes of bobbie butters squatting 185.5KG at europeans in 2022 as well as maria htee squatting 178.5 at commonwealths in 2019 or meghan scanlon squatting 178 at worlds in 2019 :) this doesnt include two untested athletes in stefanie cohen and marianna gasparyan who both squatted 190 and 220 respectively :) putting quo in quite a commanding position squats wise.
Tuchscherer you pronounce like "Toochsharer"
When it comes to basic lower body strength, I don't think there is a real difference between olympic lifters and powerlifters. They both take the squat very seriously. If you did a squat only competition, I don't think that powerlifters would excel at that, at all. While a powerlifter's technique might be more specific for this event, they would also hold a lot of useless upper body mass, which would only put them in a higher weight class.
Dayum, she's incredible! I'm curious. how long does she rest between sets?
Her face is not even going red, it just seems so easy for her
I can't tell if they are but it seems her coaches aren't cueing her to push her knees out harder, earlier on the concentric, she would be more stable and powerful on the way up. My mcls are cringing😬
Serb, sorry I don't have a guess on her squat, but I love watching Kuo cuz she always seems to be having a good time and is so cute!
She looks like the female equivalent of Lü Xiaojun. The movements and body structure look almost identical in my eyes.
Toshiki yamamoto also tried out powerlifting i believe
well when you do as much drugs as she does it goes a long way. i love the way you make these videos like these athletes are clean. lol i love your content but........pretending she does not do enough gear to melt the testing cup. lol
For sure she's a world class squatter... and would prob' win a world title if it was a squat only comp...
Great episode. Keep up the good work
She could fight a great white and beat it by a bite not losing her femininity! Bellísima!
Obviously an Olympian is highest level of strength, id be way more interested to listen to the Olympians gear stack, used by the real pros
🔥🔥🔥
Strongest woman in the world.
No super suit, wrist wraps , mega sleeves , super duper shoes to squat?!?!? Powerlifters should be embarrassed
And she was not at her best during Bogota'22. I've been told she was recovering.
chinese are great people at everything
As a former weightlifter and now powerlifter. I just will say that even though they don't compete at it, the squat can't really be called "just an accessory lift" for weightlifters. I don't know all the different methods, but the coaches I've talked to insist that the most important lift on WL apart from the competition lifts of course it's the atg squat
She doesn't even bend over when squatting, her upper body stays vertical :o Incredible
usapl 60kg squat record is currently 178kg // ipf 57kg world record is 185.5KG // then the 63kg ipf world record is 213kg and thats by Lya of france whose considered one of the best pound for pound female lifters in the world. The squat would def translates because she hits depth so she would be fine and in contention for a WR if she pushed squat forsure. The lack of bench press would really hurt her total, id imagine her pull could be very good too with some consistent training given her strength base already.
What happen to power lifters' knees long after they retired? That is so impressive.
That's an insane amount of warmups. Sick liftin'
We Powerlifters welcome all comers!
Too bad the opposite isn't true.