YOU ARE NOT KLOKOV
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- Опубликовано: 23 окт 2017
- Idiosyncrasies in Elite Weightlifters - Why you shouldn't use elites as reasoning for your bad technique.
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i always tell myself im klokov before my 110kg squat :(
LOL
How's your squat now? 3 plates?
Now?
Now?
Still better than mine sadly
I am Clarence Kennedy
where is your pink tight suite, man?
@@user-ec2jr6pv1s ITS TIME TO STOP
Now that crossed the line
Bay Zercher you are not Kennedy
lolpussy
What if Klokov watches this video? Mind blown..
Well if he is. He is eating a ass end of a polar bear that he killed with his bare hands!
well that is the joke right at the beginning of this video?
@K G
Wtf? 🤣
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You know I woke up today thinking “You know what I think I’m Klokov” glad this video set me straight
i’m lu
ummlol then I’m maligov. I’ve got an obsession with his technique.
Zack Telander revisiting this conment after your most revent video ;(
YOU ARE NOT LU
You are not lu. Oh wait that’s a different video
I’m SHI
that Chinese technique is amazing
They have it down so perfectly
*Sees title*
As if I needed my self esteem any lower. Thanks alot man.
This applies to Powerlifting too. To every sport/practice also, I'd imagine. Beethoven probably isn't a perfect musician to emulate.
Think a good comparison would be trying be a pianist like Rachmaninov . Those possible stubby digits aint gonna help.
Beethoven is a curious choice - we have only contemporary accounts (not footage or recordings for obvious reasons) to go on for his aptitude as a performer, and he is predominantly known for his compositions which are widely emulated for being perfect examples of their kind.
As for Rachmaninoff, I can sort of see where you're coming from - he had long fingers with exceptional joint flexibility, which you simply can't emulate unless you have those genetics.
I think, if you're looking for a music example, I'd go with the pianist Vladimir Horowitz. He played in a manner that pretty much all teachers would forbid, yet attained exceptional results.
Haha, I like weightlifting but am a pianist for a living. Not often I see someone mention Beethoven & Rachmaninoff in the comments .Might have gotten a bit carried away though
Even if you aren't world-class, it's important to lean on your strengths for peak performance, but also to press towards the mean for peak improvement. Your weird advantage is where today's wins are; your weird deficiency is where tomorrow's improvements are.
The best example is maybe Horowitz. His hand and wrist positioning would be seen by any piano instructor as wrong. But Horowitz is Horowitz
Thank you for this video. I almost completely screwed my technique. When my coach finally told me the same: "You are not Klokov". He also explained that unlike Klokov my legs stronger than my back, i have a different proportions(slightly more balanced) so i must do it other way. P.s. my coach old school soviet champion. All this videos about elite athletes doing teaching their technique can really mess you up. Always listen to your coach guys. Thanks again for your video.
This is the most beautiful lifting channel on YT
damn you here!!
👌true
Har jagah Sirf Yash hi Yash hai LoL!!!
agreed for sure💯🍻
Anywhere lifting is, yash will be there. Either teaching or learning. He is so passionate bout lifting.
So damn well put tbh. I'm tired of professionnal youtube commentators claiming deadlifting with a round back, squating with hands touching the plates is the super sekrit key to elite totals just because some athletes get away with it
Love your vids Zack, keep em coming
+Mr FZ I follow many of the prominent youtubers and I've never heard any of them say either of those things. I've only heard them say the opposite. Who are the culprits you're referring to?
And what exactly is a "professional youtube commentator"?
*Learn to spell.
You rude thing. :)
@@matthewtube7 Yep. Hafthors 501 deadlift was with straight back and no hitching, it would be white lighted even in IPF, some do pull ugly, but it doesn't make it right.
Deadlifting with a rounded back is dangerous for a majority of the population. That's why most advise against it. However there are some that can get away with pulling like that
I’m not even a weightlifter, yet I have been binging your contender since I found your channel yesterday. Great voice and content
Klokov's narrow stance with toes out so the hips can be opened up isn't a mistake; that's a very good way of doing it.
David I agree. However if I saw a newer athlete setting up the same way I would question the efficacy of it. This is essentially the argument I’m making.
IF you have the mobility/body type klokov has.
I recall a video where (if I remember correctly) it's because of an imbalance. If you notice, his left foot is substantially more rotated than the right foot.
Potentially unrelated, Klokov rotates to his right when locked out overhead when he's using a relatively heavy weight.
William, that rotation is due to a shoulder injury. According the Klokov, he hurt it during a maximum jerk attempt and then the spinning started.
the feet slightly apart is definitly not a technical error the opposite is the case..... he even states that clearly himself he does it because that is the CORRECT way and all the american athletes do it wrong.... feet slightly apart is the natural stance... just watch his 1,5 hour video on weightlifting for beginners he specifically points out that american weightlifters specifically have a WRONG technique because they dont have their feet apart....
the style of ur videos are awesome... not to mention the content, good stuff man
So glad I found this channel. Great content man!
You know I stumbled onto this channel browsing the net today, and i have to say i approve with the realistic things you are saying and how to think when training. This video definitely gets a like from me :)
Always enjoy your video and commentary Zack, super informative.
Track choice, one of my favs on rotation.
Automatic subscription after finishing the video. Great content here. Thank you sir.
Great video man, really enjoying your video essays.
This video was soo well put together I love it
Just got into weightlifting some months ago. Found your channel last week. Dude your channel's the shit!
Good video, Zack. In Klokov's 15 part series on RUclips he repeatedly teaches the novice to lift with toes open. I think he is convinced it is the best. Even for novices.
Love ur vids, this chanel definitely deserves more subs!
This is a great video. Really put a new spin on how I watch things.
Great video. I think those are the most important and yet often neglected factors among athletes.
Thank you for this video. Very insightful!
Love the vids man! Keep it up!
Very good video. This is also extremely applicable to combat sports, where this is actually even more commonplace due to the variety of techniques and radical difference in styles. "GSP never really moved his head why should I?"; "Roy Jones hopped into his punches all the time, that means so can I!" Well, you're not either of them.
Who else thought they were Klokov until they watched this video 😱
Let's take a moment to appreciate the beautiful production quality of this video
good video, gotta remember to WORK WITH WHAT YOU GOT
Keep making videos. They're brilliant.
Thank you for watching!
this is a good video zack thanks!
Klokov is a monster. Really strong, really powerful and really flexible. I have been practising snatches for the past few months, and have watched Klokov's videos for help. His feet pointed out and closer together stance is perfect. It gives the maximum amount of power. His advice on hip contact has also really helped me. I'm not obviously not him. But the knowledge he has to offer is invaluable.
Congratulations for this video !!!
This is becoming the hard2hurt of weightlifting and I love it
2:39 makes the entire video genuinely worth it/useful.
Great point of view !
Great message!
Great video man.
Great video. I think something else that could be mentioned is that these elite lifters in the Olympics or Worlds are trying to win, so they will try to complete lifts as best they can regardless of how good their technique is (because their careers depend on it). Some technique flaws during competition lifts can be attributed to the sheer weight they're lifting.
I have always seen Dmitri's narrow pulling stance as a tribute to the man who taught him the lifts: Slava Klokov, a man who was a great champion in his own right.
A rule of thumb I try to use when learning from my favorite lifter is to see them hit 80% attempts to gauge what they consistently do. Suharevs, Max lang, Sohrab Moradi and Adam Maligov all have some amazing techniques to learn from to me. Especially Maligov.
maligov is bae
Gabriel Sincraian also has great technique
Love your videos
Just to be clear on this one: Form > Weight. Always.
If you have the chance to lift 100kg with good form or 120kg with bad form, ALWAYS stick with the good form variant.
These athletes are going to their absolute limits to achieve the maximum amount of weight they can possibly handle. In this their technical flaws become EXTREMELY apparent. If you do squats without weight as a regular person you won't see any problems, but add weight and you'll see things like buttwink, knees caving in or your hips shooting up occur. It's natural that these mistakes become clear at high loads as they reveal the weakest links in the entire movement chain which doesn't make them good, but they just show an athlete is giving it all he's got. Their deficits in form are absolutely no standard to be compared with. Look at their lifts at about 40-60kg below their PRs, THAT'S how you wanna do it. A weight they can easily handle but with clean technique.
Olympia is nothing a regular human can compare himself to.
Gym Squad Really? You don't understand why?? It's pretty basic... the body is trying to handle a load it's not used to or strong enough for yet, to complete with good form. The more it's worked on, the body adapts and becomes stronger, the load gets easier and form improves. For some people it is fear of going beyond a point they've never been before but that's a mental issue more than a physical one.
You're right, but if by any chance your name is Lu Xiaojun or Tian Tao that doesn't apply.
I swear to god I have seen you comment in so many places Mr Finkel Funk
Finkel - Funk shut up idiot, you try lifting it
if you're only ever lifting weights that do not cause errors to show up in your form you'll never make it past an intermediate level of strength
Oh man i am so proud you mentioned Pyrros Dimas
Thanks for letting me know. If you did not made this video I will be living in delusion and think I was this guy.
the other day i was in a four hour lecture with Dmitry and he stated that these athletes should not be role models exactly for even though they look good their technique is not always perfect they have minor issues and he said when your a professional these minor issues are always compensated for something else. basically saying that do the best technique you can do and keep on that because that’s the best you can do, don’t follow these top professionals exactly because they’ve trained for so long they have already compensated in a different way for their technique flaws
I read the title and I told myself "I wish"
Nicely done.
awesome video man, thanks
(:
Wow. This was a great video.
Dmitry's form is how I learned not cause of him but because his form is very similar to the old American style. If you use see vidoes of Tommy Kono he had a very similar technique however Klokov has made it to where it benefits him. Starting my pull with a narrow stance and feet pointed out helps me feel the weight midfoot/balls of my feet and makes extension easier.
Rene Molina well said. I like zachs videos but he is bluffing in this one. Tommy Konos videos are the best on RUclips. Most of the other "American" coaches on it don't know what they are talking about and seem to only go by RUclips videos of top lifters and guessing what they are doing. My favourite term from America is the "double knee bend" 😂😂😂😂
Zack, would you be willing to make a video all about pulls? It would be an interesting topic. Many lifters tend to either over look them and do a 3x 5 at whatever %, similar to the hypertrophy work that you already addressed in a previous video. Perhaps cover all different types of pulls and thier uses and optimal percentage range. Drive pulls to develop strength, panda pulls for technique etc.
Thanks! Keep up the great work
Ryan O'Connell Absolutely. This is a great idea.
I find technique to be a general guideline for the lifter to find what's best for their individual bodies. Because we are all different, we move different and we have different "best technique".
Great video well said
Awesome video
thanks for reminding me man! i just checked the mirror just to be 100 per cent sure!!
I must say, what a title to remind us mere mortals.
I've noticed and been seen to have a rotational issue in my hips so I squat and deadlift now with a slight staggered stance to balance myself out. Better weights and no pain.
This video makes a lot of good points, not what I was expecting but it does bring a little clarity as I've been working on snatches the last two years via crossfit and I couldn't help but notice people start to teach the small points differently. Then being the Kinesiology major I am I started to analyze why, and It's definitely build dependent, but the problem I'm seeing is that coaches do not adjust to their lifter, they make their lifter adjust to the coaches style. I think this is where American's (especially crossfit) runs into trouble. Like you said, always be objectifying and asking questions of why are you doing it this way? Is this the best way for me? or the best way for you?
When it comes to form, there is a general stance that you should know, but I don't know of trainers that say you have to stick to it religiously since they are all aware about the anatomical differences everyone has. At least trainers that I saw, they would stress out that some people have wider legs, narrower hips, larger torsos etc. So obviously you have to adjust accordingly when you get to heavier weights to avoid torque. I mean weight lifting is at the most basic form just physics and mechanics when you think about it.
Excellent use of the word 'titular'
Not really on topic but that clip at 2:40 of Klokov pulling up his pants is a fucking genius analogy
This is the same in martial arts. A person's footwork may work for them but not for you. Sometimes, deviating from the "perfect" method is not always bad.
I’m slightly bow legged like Klokov and I’ve found that when I get to my start position since my legs go outward more than normal it’s better for me to have a closer stance
"This boy does everything wrong, but it comes out right!" Muhammad Ali's coach Angelo Dundee.
Now I probably get these words!
Rewatched 3.5 years later - shit still holds up despite how much more we've all learned as the sport has kept changing and developing. Unliked dat bish just so I could relike it; thank you Telamander
Nice research work Bro let me know if I can add some with u
That first joke was brilliant 👌 very nice 10/10
thanks for the reminder, i almost forgot.
This is so entertaining. 😄
great video
I'm not Lu and I'm not Klokov, after years of trying to find my identity, I am at a lost.
(Deep voice)
THIS FALL
(Fade)
Who really am I?
(Fade)
(Deep voice)
A MAN WHO THOUGHT HE WAS LU, A MAN WHO THOUGHT HE WAS KLOKOV, IS NOW TRYING TO FIND HIS REAL IDENTITY. HE WAS LIED TO, AND NOW IT'S TIME FOR HIM TO KNOW
COMING NOW ON THEATERS
PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT
Well said bro
Perfect opening joke❤️😂love it
Fantastic
Dimas, the King.
Is the outro music saying " i've got bleeding gums"?
Yeah thanks for reminding me
I need a link to the song all the links in the bio are dead, this song is too fire
"WhooooOOOOOOP" - Klokov
When I'm on my last set I crank up the Bach and tell myself "I'm James fucking May."
Came for the Klokov, stayed for the awesome video.
any link to the scene near the end with klokov giving the seminar and pulling his pants down as exaggeration? which vid is that from
iamsupercaonapdakpfk Just RUclips klokov pants
Klokov: *Reads title*
Klokov: Shakes head
Imo best 77kg athlete is Mohammed Ehab. The speed at which he drops under the bar is amazing 👌🏼
Well said
Nice video. I wanna ask you something, any tips for working on the head whip? :P
Alexandre Porto Alegre pick a spot on the wall across from where your lifting and try to look at it the whole lift.
Gonna give it a try, I remember trying this on the C&J, or something similar, and it messed up my balance while extending and receiving the bar, probably lack of practice tho.
I've found that stretching my lips before lifting, like Suleimanoglu, helps me concentrate!
The problem with extremely close stance is that the hips must shift posteriorly instead of shifting the knees anteriorly as all weightlifters should. As a result of hips moving back, the moment arm between the bar and the hips increase, and more stress is placed on the back.
The other problem with close stance is that the centre of mass will increase if you want the torso to stay upright, making snatch, clean, squat more unstable. And it doesn't allow you to go as low without torso leaning forward.
what is your outro song? its super dope?
Can anyone tell me the name of the Weightlifter in the blue suit that cleans really late in the lift?
Same . His technique is interesting
Kirill Pavlov
So pursue perfect technique but don’t be ashamed of your genetic/ mechanical flaws. Otherwise...if it works and doesn’t injure you, it’s good enough.
Thanks for telling me
Very astute
What if, because everyone's body is different these are the most efficient ways to move the weight for your specific examples?
This video said the most without saying literally anything.
My son (14) is showing interest in olympic lifting and I think that is awesome. I’m trying to figure out how to get him coaching but still let him own it.
research weightlifting gyms in your area. Get him in an intro class then let him take his skills to the gym on his own!
very true! good vid :tup