Here’s all the rot I found in my 1980s timber catamaran
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- Опубликовано: 18 мар 2024
- This video briefly summarises the job of removing the catamaran from the water, getting the tarp on and stripping it down. I then do a detailed walkthrough and compare what the catamaran looked like when I first got it to what it looks like now.
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Nothing more expensive than a free boat.
Fix it, Rebuild it and sail it around the World!! You got this!!
That damaged are too scary for me who know nothing about fixing stuff. But, I love your spirit, and I know you can do it brother!!!
you will find an oscillating saw a very handy tool to use in this project, where you start to cut out rot , chamfer the hole edges so a new piece will fit with a maximum glue surface, scarf all joints for max strength
I remember seeing this boat online (and local to me) a few years ago. You’re pretty gutsy taking it on. I went on to buy an epoxy/glass & ply tri that had it’s own share of rot. Nothing on the scale of this cat though. I’ve only just finished the refurb & refit and I’ve learnt a lot, spent a ton of money and time. I reckon since you’ve got the space to build, it could be worth building a new cat from kit or taking over someone elses kit build. At least then at the end of all your effort and outlay you’ll have something safe to sail, of considerable value and sellable.
This is a massive project, but nearly everything can be fixed with time & dollareedoos. I have plans of buying a fixer upper & look forward to it with excitement. Don’t burn out, take time away from the project to recharge from time to time (really important) Tally Ho has just been launched after a 4ish year rebuild & that was 4/5 times the size of this project.
I’ll be subbing to watch the progress.
Good luck & holding fast.
_SEVEN!_
this should be fun! great to see you take this on. I had a Hortsman tri, was a great boat.. had some rot, nothing like yours.. But do love wood boats, epoxy coated that is....Epoxy coat everything! and start with a thin batch to let is soak in before thickened for an hour or two first. Cheers!
I would cut out all the rot. Then evaluate whether it is a bonfire job.
The solid parts all need to be tested with a moisture meter. Even if the wood feels solid, you must not seal in moisture.
Make sure there are no area that are sealed and inaccessible. Every area needs two vents.
My 1958 designed Rudy Choy 36 Cat, the former "Mehitabel" is finally succumbing to the ravages of Formosan termites, picked up in Florida. Rot, and termites never sleep. Good luck with your project, may you be successful.
i mean if you cannot maintain your boat properly- yes, buying a wooden cat would be a bad idea, but this guy is young and resourceful, he is able to keep it in tip top condition once restored, especialli if done right it wont as for a lot
@@pironiero What do you think "Good luck with your project,may you be successful" means?
Very inspired from Kenya,Africa
B.O.A.T = Bring On Another Thousand .....she's diagonal planked, epoxy primes then painted. Here's a practical piece of advice....start in one area,finish it.,then move on. Do it in bight size pieces n don't let the imensity of the job cloud your judgement. I admire the couple restoring Sarinda (on line) as this is also their aproach..mine also. If you watch them you will find that they offer essentially a tutorial about epoxy use,problem solving and tool use in their wooden vessel's reconstruction. Cheers and best wishes
ayyy. this going to be the coolest build
Thanks yo, keen to keep sharing!
Good to see you again Man.
Very cool mate. I’ve refitted four boats now - the most recent one being a cold moulded cedar tri - and just take your time with it / don’t get burnt out…. I think you probably realise that wasn’t great with the mast, but hopefully a rigger can tell you if it’s salvageable. Anyway, rot is fixable - scarf in new wood and glass it with epoxy, and you’ll be good.
Thanks for your comment I really appreciate the encouragement!
You need to maximise the airflow through the interior to promote drying out. Make an air scoop at the bow / stern.
I did a similar project with a 40' cat back in 1979. What I lacked in skill I made up for with enthusiasm.
Legend.
I don't know how to say this, but your inexperience may have brought you something no normal people should be faced with. You have bought what seems to me to be a Tennant Great Barrier Express that has been heavily modified - and not modified in a good way. The bridgdeck addition has very low clearance and has compromised the ability to do simple things - like pull up the daggerboards. The additions make the boat much less able to sail, even when you get her all fixed up - she will not be a good cruiser. GBEs were designed as racers and have very little volume and subsequently cruising payload. The bridgdeck addition means this boat is now heavier than she was designed to be - reducing the payload for cruising further.
Do some simple maths - work out the waterplane area - you do this by taking beam measurements say every metre at the waterline and then working out the area of the waterplane. Or you can multiply the length x the waterline beam and a coefficient - about .55 (prismatic). So we get 8.5 x say 0.8 x 0.55 = 3.7 metres squared. So every 37kg will sink the hull 1cm. This means when you load the boat up with about half a tonne of gear she will sink 250/37 = 66cm. The bridgedeck will be lapping the water then. It gets even worse - when you go out sailing most of the weight is transferred to the leeward hull, so this sinks much more - we used to have a cat with this problem on the lake - it seemed as if the leeward hull just sank when sailing as it got loaded up - causing the bridgedeck to slap on even small chop as it got very close to the water.
Also before you start fixing her up - get stuck into the rot with a jigsaw - rot moves along the interior plies of plywood much further than you think - you just have to start cutting out and stopping when the INTERIOR plies are dry and solid - this can often be 30-50 cm further than tapping suggests. The crowbar can lie. Also as she is double diagonal, fixing the rot requires scarfing in veneers laid at 90 degrees to each other, it won't be simple where there sections are rounded. Maybe you could use foam/glass or cedar/glass but it will be tricky.
I have been around cats and tris for over 40 years and built 4 myself. I would recommend you stop and find another project - a multi that has higher volume hulls, is made of foam/glass or is WEST?timber with no rot and will maybe give you some ability to sell the boat after you have put lots of time and money into it. A proper cruising cat and not a converted racer. I was given a trailer sailer in similar condition or better to your project - after I cut out the rot there was about half a boat left and it went to the tip. Be harsh on yourself and your dreams - sometimes they lead one astray. There are many abandoned projects in boatyards, now huge worries for the owners, and everyone started with a dream and a positive outlook.
Thanks for your comment Philip. Can you please confirm that you think it’s a Tennent GBE, I’m not too sure? This has been an ongoing identification issue as originally thought it was a Crawford Windspeed but many don’t believe so. What I do know for sure is it was a home build each hull built by two seperate gentlemen (friends). There was originally a tiller.
Yes the bridge deck mods are somethin’ else - have a lot of thoughts on how to tackle this but will decide later. Please make sure to subscribe as I will be posting a video in a couple weeks of the plywood replacements, keen for your opinion.
Where in Australia are you?
Gday - I can't confirm anything as the pics don't focus on the hulls and foredecks. You would need to get someone close who knows a lot about cats. It certainly is NOT a Crowther Windpseed - they are always foam and glass and the hull sections are more U shaped with Windpseeds. I think it used to be a GBE because of the hull sections - the rounded vee - and the daggerboard position and cant. Just do one thing before you start fixing her - cut ALL of the rot out - don't do sections - get a jigsaw and cut back the rot until you get good wood - do this BEFORE you start fixing her up. You may find she has so much cut out you will save money by walking away and getting a different cat. Remember that sometimes we humans do really dumb things (Like buying a boat on a vibe) so make sure you think smart from now on. My best friend killed himself over a boat project, I knew a bloke who NEVER finished his boat project - it stayed in the yard for 30 years and he died before it got in the water. Building boats can ruin lives and yours is screaming at me that it will suck your time and be a bad cruising boat when complete - get someone in who has built many cats, has been in the scene for decades and is straight up to give you advice - you need it.
I have some quiestions, comments and suggestions. First, do you have an idea of how much you think or willing to invest in your project boat. If not, then do you have a bail number before you're in to deep ($). When you bought, assumed ownership of the did you have any experience with boat repair. Last but not least, have you thought of juist running away from this nightmare. I know it's not any of business making such comments but you're in youtube land. If you decide to continue in your journey good luck and may the gods of broken down boats look mercifully on you. You're not the first nor last that has tanken on such a monumental task.
Often think about running away when I get frustrated with it! Spending a bit every month not too much - a small fee to pay for a hobby I do really enjoy ☺️
Doing up old boats often doesn't make sense on pure financial basis, but the materials on a wooden hull are relatively inexpensive so if you have the time and motivation the structural shell can be made-good reasonably cheaply. Where the money comes in is when you start to add the equipment such as rig, sails, engines, deck fittings, instruments etc . If you are resourceful some if not most can be sourced and adapted from the second hand market, it all depends on time and motivation but at the end you will know your vessel inside out and can have trust in its integrity.
The big killer on long term projects is relationships, if your current or future partner does not share the dream then confronting choices are right around the corner. I married a girl from a sailing family as a conscious decision having recently exited a relationship where the significant other did not share a love of the sea, we are still together and still sailing after 40 years :-)
Mate,as a professional boat builder,i can see no positives with this cat,you could build yourself a new one cheaper,shes too far gone sorry to say.
But if he's prepared to spend $150k on it, he could have a $75k cat 😂
Also a boatbuilder, I would agree 100% with you, I would look to find a new design he could reuse the rig and other stuff on, may be Mike Waller or one of the Roger Simpson cat, be worth more when he is done and much much less time__ this one is a lost cause.
Not a boat builder but all I can see is a funeral boat for viking twins that died on the same day...
The toilet looks great ....... the rest will be a lot of work ....... make it a rustic look ....
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I believe that this is doable and that you can do it. A Mate is a cool thing to have….
Thanks!! I find it peaceful working on it alone, just need to find the right mate to help ahahah
This,is,going to be a huge project. Was the boat build with proper Marine grade plywood and solid materials? proper Marine,grade plywood should not rot. Be very careful to keep fresh water out as,that rots,poor wood much faster than salt water.
Good luck . cheers warren
It sure was! Just 45 years old, cheers Warren!
All wood rots eventually.
Why did you dropped the mast like that? are you going to put the new one in? this could seriously bend it
Why didnt you went around and poked the keels? go poke the parts that were actually under the water, especially the parts which had rainwater puddles,those are most important
No more wooden boats for me, too old for the never ending fight against decay, weather, and rot!
@@SharifSalukis stop trying to discourage this guy)
Find a the bits that aren't rotten.
NOT a _cat_ ~ it is a _DOG!_
You would have been better off just starting from scratch.
Sorry dude... That thing is done. BIP...burn in place
I would never own a catamaran. They don't have much living space and are too cramped. not liveaboard friendly. But they are cool boats.
Depends on the size of the boat, a bridge deck catamaran has close to twice the usable space of an equivalent length monohull, they are relatively stable, have a shallow draft and can be quick so making them attractive for liveaboards. They do handle differently than a monohull and the initial capital outlay can prohibitive, berthage and maintenance costs are also higher.
@number1genoa yea just like anything they have advantages and disadvantages. Trade offs to everything.
It's the work on the boats that we want to see, not your RUclipsr face