109. Dirt Cheap ABANDONED Project Catamaran - Should We Buy? [Full Tour] Learning the Lines
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- Опубликовано: 3 ноя 2019
- As far as I know this is the first Outremer model ever built. She is a very simple, fast, ocean going catamaran. Although she's in ROUGH shape and she'll never be as nice as a new catamaran, she does have potential to be a great racer/cruiser if someone is willing to put the time, money, and effort into restoring her. It's unfortunate that this project was abandoned by the previous owner, but it could be the perfect opportunity for someone to pick this boat up dirt cheap.
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When I saw the video I thought "Re-build the cabin to make it wider and give direct access to the hulls from upstairs" and if you had the space and time might be worth doing....but then I saw the price!!!! Probably worth $15k depending on transport costs and having somewhere to put it
There's a good reason why the price keeps dropping........the layout is completely dis functional. Unfortunately this boat is worth more parted out.
Yeah, but that's how Outremer got started and look where they are today...
@@elektrischunterwegscom i lived on a boat somewhat similar for 6 months and it was not very comfortable. I was happy when someone stole it and sank it....and as a bonus the insurance paid market.
@@johnbolongo9978 did you know the person who stole it and sank it? lol
This boat comes with a complimentary divorce.
Funniest comment ever....
Wild thing, I think I love you.
Hahahahhaha so true!
IF SHE DONT AGREE UOU HAVE TO CHOOSE
Easy choice
I see the best possible future of this boat as insurance fraud.
Bingo
I agree , but consider a viking funeral.
Run away!
Then you have no imagination! 😎🏖🌴☀️🇦🇺
Even if it's free leave it alone
Free it's doable but not if you pay money for that first generation cat
winston smith Words of wisdom sir ,words of wisdom.
yea unless you can sell an engine..... but RUN
This boat is true to the adage : A boat is a hole in the water, into which the owner pours MONEY!
I would consider taking it if the owner gave me $200,000...maybe.
Sorry I have worked on boat for 35 years and that boat is nowhere near 40 grand it's not a diamond in the rough it's a turd in the dirt run away and don't step in it
That's the funniest comment I've read in a long time!!
It advertise in the description for 90K. What???? With the 40-foot cruisers that folks are giving away (figuratively AND literally) today?
Tell the owner , my advice would be to sell the engines mast rigging and sails separately .....and hopefully after the sale have enough money to pay someone to come along and take it to the SKIP ....as a bluewater boat it is the worst one I have ever seen .and iam 124 years old ..😳😳
You would need to buy TWO of them. That one to remove engines and rigging from, and a better one to put the engines and rigging INTO. Wow - a lot of good spare parts, and from the look of it, you would not have to work very hard to cut out the good parts.
I'm currently on assignment in Romania and watching this... I could literally smell the mold and mildew from here!! Listen to your wife!!
LOL RUNNNNNNNN OR SHOULD I SAY FLY
A spot on assessment!
That mold is nothing. Spray or wipe with bleach, cleans up much quicker than most things.
Thank you Howie Do, I read your comment and literally burst out laughing. Thanks amigo.
Is it true that Romanian woman are really hot?
RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO NOT BUY THIS BOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that was my first reaction upon seeing it..... now that I have seen the whole video..... thank goodness for your woman's insight... this boat is not a cruisers boat.... engine and mast is good, but the boat is a piece of crap...
Don't buy for the love of God don't buy
Agreed. that boat is trashed. Rotten decks, beat up, dirty, and totally outdated design. That thing is ready to be stripped for parts and scrapped.
Arrgh! the sky is falling the sky is falling says Mr internet expert.
@@MegaDirtyberty Doesn't take an "Internet Expert" to see that this boat is wreck. Do you have anything to add to the coversation beyond trolling?
Also why the HELL has someone put two new engines, a new rig and instruments on this thing?!?
Hope (delusion?) springs eternal?
The current owner called the wrong guy to repair the boat lol
@@djkillachris Most likely he called Himself. Himself will get you every time.
You see crazy stuff like that all the time looking at junk boats.
To try and sell it.
That boat has some nice parts on it... every time I've done glass work the damage has been 3 to 4 times larger than what was originally seen
Yep, the decks will have to be ripped off and redone from scratch, the cabin too. You get the rig and engines is about it.
Agree with everyone else, especially the part about the complimentary divorce. Run now.
The one positive of this catamaran is that it is probably fast sailing. The owner added the 3' sugar scoop extensions to reduce stern squatting and water turbulence to make it sail better/faster. The diesel tanks are midshp for balance purposes as anything further aft would cause stern squatting. The only other possible location for the diesel tanks would be in the aft section of those forward lockers. If this boat is in affluent Barrington RI, the owner had the bucks to add all the new stuff- this was probably a whim toy like a go fast car and now he/she just wants to get rid of it. Agree that the rigging and engines are the valuable parts of this cat.
The negatives are many and have been pointed out. Tulas Endless Summer youtubers bought a similar cat and fixed it up, but theirs had a much better layout in the hulls. But even they, in a recent post, liked the space in a more modern catamaran they visited. Adding a robust autopilot would be difficult given the design, only a tiller autopilot would work easily and they are less robust. This cat does not have most of the advantages of modern cats such as lots of living space, storage space, big galley, multiple heads, large cockpit, protected steering helm, protected easy entrance to hulls, engines in separate compartment or a sound insulated area.
Cat models I personally like and may be in your budget are Privilege 37 and Privilege 39 from the late 80's early 90's. A 37 sold for $75K a few years back in Mid Altlantic on Yachtworld. A 39 sold for $59K in S Fl 2 years ago on Craigslist and another in Tx for $85K on Ebay. They meet the rule of thumb of at least 35' LOA for offshore sailing and have a beam width that is at least 50% of LOA for stability, and have adequate bridgedeck clearance. So affordable well designed cats do come up for sale. See youtube Taking the Chance for couple sailing Priv 39 in Caribbean.
It still would have been an easier job then building one by themselves as they would like to.
So to get another knot, knot-and-a-half of smooth-water speed they added quick-rotting pieces to the stern, screwed with the usability by putting diesel tanks where something else should go, and generally turned a turd into piece of shi--tte. Hmm, what's the diff between a turd and a piece of shi--tte? Answer - turds are all dried up, you can pick them up with a paper towel and throw them in a waste can; but shi--tte is a runny, smelly mess that you can't even try to clean up without getting it all over you and your clothes and everything you touch.
Approach no closer! Danger! Will Robinson! Danger!
Looks good for a single-hander circumnavigation, a quick sprint through the Southern Ocean, and the rounding of the Horn in winter.
Suggestions: 1. Consider relocating the diesel tanks to the centermost portions of the awthoroughtship voids which exist in each hull, then fit out heads where the tanks are now. Fit out your galley on one side and your stateroom on the other. Fit out a watermaker and companion FW tank on the galley side. Clean all interior areas with hi pressure washer with a trash pump to scavenge the bilge water buildup - like your dentist does when he is grinding on your tooth - no big deal. Repaint after full cleaning, drying and repairing as needed.. 2. cover the dagger board voids with a hinged plug - no biggie. 3. First do the exterior work which is required to launch. Second, reposition boat to a highly protected cheap shore birth with power, all of which is very near your residence - then conduct your interior and topside repairs while floating. Take your time - do things right - find an experienced and good natured mentor. The more you do yourselves, the better qualified you will become to operate and maintain your boat. Don't make anyone responsible for anything except yourselves. If you don't know something, learn it . . . You'll be just fine.
I like a lot of this. Seems like a lot of solid advice. But it also sounds like there is going to be a lot of old paint dust and plastic dust going into the water at that highly protected cheap shore birth with power. That seems like it would be much easier to avoid if the work was done on land instead.
I guess rose colored glasses work in the rain! I can't believe you wasted time discussing this "boat" after wasting a trip to RI. Look up 'SV Basik'. Teal and Lyhn bought a somewhat similar project, needing a full rebuild, but the hulls and cabin were structually sound, they knew what they were getting into, they had a good enough income duuring the project to never have to skimp on quality, Teal is a very talented and meticulous craftsman, they are now sailing on a beautiful cat-but the project took MANY, MANY YEARS!
This owner needs to drop the asking to 20k, and if it doesn't sell in six months sell the rigging, sails and motors, cut up and haul off the boat, and get out from under the yard fees. That should have been the plan years ago.
strip and crush before some fool trys sails it
The best part of this boat was when you watched it get smaller in the mirror as you fled the scene
That's hilarious
lol
Agreed, run away!
spot on
Really your special Sailboats presentations, just great thanks a bunch, Has
Ewww... run for the hills! 89k seems like a crazy amount for a boat in such rough shape. Aside from that, the layout is ridiculous!
Randy learn about distilled vinegar and baking soda used together in the proper manner there is no need , your labor of scrubbing , if you let vinegar and baking soda do all the work !!!
Truly all that is needed for detoxing the mold and cleaning going in with vinegar 100% spraying it everywhere would clean the mold out in seconds !!! Then neutralize with baking soda with a quick wipe down is all that is needed if you give the vinegar and baking soda the time to work not jump on top of it expecting it to work in an instant give it the time it needs a day or two if need be shouldn't take much longer than that less time and days of scrubbing .
Wet stains baking soda first let dry then clean up with vinegar .
mold and dry stains I always use 100% distilled vinegar let stand for at least 24 Hours come back in moisten and again with vinegar and then Dust with baking soda let stand at least 12 hours Come Back Inn wipe off clean up with clean water and always 100% cotton cleaning rags do the best job no need for the endless irresponsible use of paper towels.
I do not use the disposable rubber or plastic gloves I have some good rubber gloves a couple of pairs for handling chemical and oily messes they are around $10 a pair and they have lasted me well over 25 years over buying rubber disposable nonsense. all I've done to maintain them is wash them in distilled vinegar after every use and they just as new today as they were 25 years ago .
I'd take it. Plywood bulkheads are easily removed and be ones made and glassed in. Noticed the wiring system seems very tidy. Getting down from deck to cockpit... Few grp steps can be made. If the decks are double core it's easy to pump epoxy resin inside. Other than that just some cleaning repainting and minor building work. Definitely could negotiate on the price if your good at pointing out all the negatives...
Just watching this filled me with despair.
Dang, somebody pissed away a lot of money on this boat.
Then turns to the wife and says look at all the work i did hunny.. wife says your a twat and i want a divorce
I nearley choked on my cup of tea when I saw the price hahaha
Ran sailing just sold their 40ft alu monohull for about that price, and it had just sailed across the Pacific to Hawaii, up to Alaska and down the US coast to Mexico. With Johan and Malin taking meticulous care of it the whole time.
The owner of this boat should think himself very lucky to get half the cost of the mast and engines and winches back for it. All the rest needs to go to the skip.
@@paul42592
He likely will not get half
He says the owner is motivated, the price says otherwise, it says he has a fun sense of humor.
In our area we see abandoneds like this sell for $20K. Engines might add $1500 each.
We have sailing plans, and we watch and enjoy all your reviews of all the difference boats
We also looked at building a new catamaran from scratch, we have even looked at plans available online
From what we saw, we would rather be in a Monohull then in this cat
From what we have learned so far, it will be more work to fix this one then build a new one
Yeah, gotta say given the $89k price and condition, might be better off doing from scratch and getting an actual brand new boat. It it was $29k maybe.
In aviation we deal with lots of laminates. To check for delam, we use the coin tap method. Which is exactly what it sounds like. Tapping around the laminate, you will here the difference between good and bad laminates. Very quick and fairly accurate way to check for delam. Just an fyi for future inspections.
This was fun to watch . New subbie
Run like hell from this boat. Or, offer $10K I’d sell the engines, winches, mast and hardware and anything else of value. Cut the hull up and trash it.
They're asking $90k😬
@@working2bselfsufficient724 That is incredibly expensive for something like this. I just purchased a 43 foot shuttleworth for 35k
60 to 70 for a refit and Ill have a great boat for long term cruising
At least no worries about a viewer buying this out from under you :)
Nope you helped pay for it most likely as I'm taking a educated guess it's a insurance job.
I haven had a belly laugh in a long time.. the advice here is classic.. especially the one about despair 😩 🤪🤣🤪🤣
Wow, that is a lot of work! I would have to pass on that one.
This the perfect cat for RUclips series but not for sailing.
Imagine raising the Titanic, putting new boilers and engines in it and then try to sell it.
:D
Well fwiw, given the amount of reworking needed, the Irwin 52 you dismissed yonks ago would be a better long term home/ life time boat. But it's your life guys 😉
Good luck 2 u both on your journey.keep the dream alive
the fact the owner or broker couldnt even make it presentable is all you need to know. that boat is worth no more than 10k if that. More like 5k since the engines and mast etc are basically devalued now
Exactly what I had thought
It will cost more to fix it than buy it! What this boat needs is some lighter fluid and a match.
"Symmetrical evidence of damage" What I think it means is the foam inside is saturated, the water has found, or is still finding the lowest point, hence all the rot in those areas. I could just see an enormous amount of work required to fix this thing. It's weird they fitted new gear to it to try and sell it rather than fix the basics first.
It's a shame so many people buy boats then neglect their maintenance, but people do the same with cars too.
Engines are worth $3,562.00 each or so, so $7124 in engines there, and rigging, maybe $8000, so value sitting there is $15124, the rest of the boat is liability. Better off buying a boat in good shape with no engines and needs rigging.
All I can figure is they started out and ran out of money before finishing the hull or found out how bad the water intrusion was. It takes hundreds of hours just to redo the roof and the stern additions. Fiberglass is not fun and it is a real pain in the ass to replace it. The fiberglass may be easier than getting it ready to fiberglass. If not for the engines I would not take it if free. lol
Junk.
You and your responders are so right. I don't need a phenolic hammer to tell you this mess is delaminating and filling with water. Nice to hear comments from people who know their stuff.
The big ticket stuff is all done, it is a pity they didn’t put the fuel tanks above the engines and left the heads in place. These boats are like a rocket ship, I did an oceans crossing on a 55 and we had the boat airborne on a number of occasions. You guys have the skill set to finish this one off.
It’s crapola. Run away! Love you guys.
run run. Dont go loosing your charming lady for that Outremer.
89k, the owner is dreaming, he'd get more money for the engines and mast separately I've seen boats in far better shape for half that price.
I for one think you should really consider purchasing this fine vessel. You could change the name of your channel to "Sailing La Dumpster Fire" Just Imagine the possibilities.
You can often find "cheap" cruising boats in Hawaii, at the Ala Wai or Sand Island Marinas.
These are often fully outfitted, and fresh in from their passage from the Mainland, during which the owners had their dream of islands in the sun dissolve under the repeated onslaughts of seasickness, trying to cook sailing dead downwind and constantly rolling the gunwales under in 8-10 foot tradewind swells, exhausting watch-on watch-off living (most of these are couples, many don't get additional crew to handle the watches or work), and generally the shock to their systems from finding out that cruising is not the same as a weekend out to Catalina Island and back.
Depending on how desperate they are, how badly the marriage broke up after the voyage, and how long the boat has sat unsold, you can often pick up a name yacht that would have cost you $350,000 from a brokerage in Southern Cali for under $100,000. Sad but true; I've been an island resident since '76 when I singlehanded in to Hawaii from the Marquesas on a 37-footer I built myself.
With Warm Aloha, Tim
I recon it was an open boat, that has had a hard top put on it... I imagine it would be quite fast... Don't buy it, carry on looking, you have shown us much better boats..
You don't have the time or money to work on a boat that is in the water!! How much work could you have done in the three days it took you to fly up there and back? Not to mention the editing time.
thank you I'm planning to retire and live aboard a sailboat hopefully a cat at least 41' this video is giving me great information to look for when I start looking this October
Have a look at a Gemini 105M or 105MC. A fixer upper can be picked up for a pretty good price and they are a great small catamaran. I have a 1997 that I converted to an outboard and it is a perfect size for my small family. At 34' long by 14' wide it fits in regular slips and so we don't pay the high docking fees of most other catamarans.
Run, not walk, away. What a mess. So many hidden dangers
@ Joel Clappe, I didn't really see any hidden dangers, they were all in plain sight.
That boat reminds me of a Rat Rod, more rat than rod. The design is pure sailing, bare minimum living accommodations, not really a live aboard. I love Randi's response.
Looks like it needs a lot of work, but you at least have yourself a blank canvas to make it how you want! Congratulations on your find!
If the decision to do a refit of an existing boat has been decided(which I would highly recommend over building your own), might you look at hurricane damaged boats? Although the expense over time would be closer to that of good condition ready to cruise boat, the cost is diffused over the course of the refit and thus easier to manage. I have seen many boats(both cat and mono) which are within the 10 year age range that would be ideal for a DIY refit. I have been considering this myself as I search for a cruising boat in the 38'-48' range. Old boats will always be old boats no matter how much work you do to them. A newer hull has the benefit of advanced construction methods that are tried and true, something you cannot replicate without extensive time and commitment over the course of 3-5 years. Whereas, you could finish the refit of a hurricane damaged boat in a year if you spent all your spare time working on it. The knowledge amassed over the course of that time is invaluable and at the end have a boat which is designed exactly to your needs and will hold its value and integrity for years to come.
89k?....when you said the price dropped and before i saw the price i figured it was at 20..25k....run very fast back to the airport and don't look back....or buy it for 10k....(edit make that 5k)....salvage the mast , engines and rigging ....then some cement and sink it for a reef
Good choice not to buy I can’t even imagine what to do with that boat no room good job guys
Lotta work with this project, but hey, for the right folks, have at it. Would be fun to see it done up. I'm a trimaran lover myself, so the cats don't do it for me. Lookin forward to seeing what you two eventually end up with.
Well - it sold! Be curious to see if it lives to see the light of day.
with the amount of work needed in this thing...it would be years till you would enjoy this..doubt if Randi would like this one...shes pretty open on how she likes things..I would not say to her "honey look what followed me home"...think you spent money on flight etc ...would been used on your own boat..
That's a GREAT boat.
(for free)
Sell off the rigging, engines and put the funds to another boat. Perfect!
(or build a new hull and put rigging and engine on it.)
You know its amazing to me when people live their dreams...dont worry about the haters...just beating on folks who make it work....and your girl is beautiful...just saying...more power to you
I just hope someone took that boat and put the components back to work and that it's not continuing to rot.
Watched a few of your boat tours but they stated to all look the same except for this one! Nice job, way to change it up, I felt your excitement, and I get it, but that thing is a day sailer or weekender at best.Thanks for throwing it in the mix. Got my interest.Thanks for flying up to Rhode island so I don't have to.
Interesting, I can see the potential of this fine craft. With the new engines, mast and standing rigging I do not think you would have over $125,000 in refurbishing this vessel. Man-hours would not exceed 8500. When all is said and done you would have a cat that is unsuitable for extending sailing and living aboard. A great project because you are both young. If you plan on your sailing adventure to start sometime in your 50s go for it. Another great vid!
If you like sailing, don't buy it. If you like fixing and spending, buy it really cheap. On second thought DON'T buy it.
I was thinking buy it cut it up save the engines and rigging, but then i saw 89,000 and I would run!
Great rigging, engines... maybe the hulls (I have my doubt), but you'd have to replace almost all of the fiberglass over the waterline.
Oh, and that main cabin cover would have to go, so you're talking about major rebuilding.
If it's dirt cheap, buy it, and scuttle the hulls, then use the engines and rigging on an entirely different sailboat.
If the hulls are good take the main salon off completely and redesign. Big project but has some potential. Or better yet buy a storm damage boat and use this for the parts.
I would leave this boat alone. She has a lot of issues that would need to be resolved, not to mention the poor space circulation.
No, I can't see why someone sent all that money on this boat, to begin with,( new engines).
I’d much rather see videos of boats you are considering buying vs. the other boats you have visited. Even though this one looks like a loser, it’s interesting to hear your thoughts and comments as you tour the boat. I always enjoy your videos and look forward to seeing continued work on Freebie or your next project.
G’day from Australia.... I Have built and sailed cats for over 45 years... launched over 42 ocean going ones.... imho starting with a basically sound HDB is easier than building from scratch... and like Randi says... the extras included in this are worth the money at half the price... or less... she would become a fast basic couples cruiser... but at the end of the day you would have to calculate any roi.... I’ll probably get shot down but this is my opinion... you guys are passionate and that’s more than most couples have... $40k is too much.... go half of that maybe
Wow, that's a disaster. I'm glad you had a chance to see it, and even in your wildest fantasy could see you need to leave this alone.
This is the worst catamaran project I've ever seen.
WHAT ABOUT FINDING SIMON??? i still don't see that thing surviving an ocean passage! but i will be a nice coastal cruiser?? house boat??
@@pornstarlivesmatter3319 Finding Simon's is huge turd. An expensive money draining turd
You guys should shut up Simons boat is gonna be awesome when it’s down because he built it how he wanted it
@@FeelItRising Says Mr internet expert.
@@MegaDirtyberty why do you keep saying the same thing? that boat is a pos and would be an endless moneypit
That thing needs a LOT of work. If I had a spare $45k or so burning a hole in my pocket, I would:
1) Hire a pro inspector to find everything wrong with it and determine that it's actually possible to salvage into something safe to use
2) Move those diesel tanks into the storage bins above the engines (which are far too small for my liking but no point upgrading until it's confirmed usable) and put heads where they're supposed to go
3) Gut that entire center room and rebuild properly into living(ish)room, including an enclosed wheelhouse. Redo the roof in the process with all fiberglass
4) at least cover that entire rear walk, if not totally enclose. Double tillers would get replaced for getting in the way of main walkway, with more protection when desired at the main steering position
5) Tear off those 3' extensions, there are less makeshift ways to get good easy water access for swimming/etc.
6) Scrub out the front lockers, and convert one or both into small offices, kid's rooms, or similar. Or even just spare pantries for more durable goods. Probably one of each
7) Improve the side railings significantly, and add some flavor of cover over the daggerboards that keeps you from twisting an ankle when they're in the down position. Also rubberized stick-on mats everywhere.
8) Upgrade the berths with some $100 memory foam full size mattresses or similar, with wall TVs and those bed-cushions so they can be used as a hangout area. Add privacy curtains, and upgrade the space around them to actually provide bedroom amenities. Possibly make hatches into the hulls seal if still able to get water to them after whatever walkway upgrades
9) Upgrade rigging to be remotely operated, because sometimes one person has to sail solo because injury/illness, and also because sometimes it's just crappy outside, but that's more a nicety than a necessity.
It's kind of a meh layout and needs a lot of work, but if you had a space to put it while you did so you could make a pretty decent house out of it (if you could get it cheap enough). I've heard more than a few stories of people buying a big cheap old ship that's barely fit to leave the harbor but otherwise sound and just using it as a house for college because local marina fees were a fraction of what any rent would be. This looks pretty seaworthy, so even beyond that usage you could get a real nice thing out of it, once it was all said and done
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For the amount of time and money the new owner will have to spend on this refit job, might as well buy a decent 1990s Gemini catamaran...
Leave it alone guys, just dont go there you would be buying a nightmare.
Owner of that ship needs to give it some love and care if they want someone to buy it.. Start scrubbing!
Former Rhode Islander, Go Bruins! Seriously though, this boat needs to be parted out. Outremer have come a LONG way (La Vagabonde), yet they have always been very efficient and fast boat designs. What I wish for you two, as a young couple hooked on sailing, beyond winning the lottery, is that you find yourself in a position where you can either finance a decent used catamaran (because I think that's what you want) or a situation where you could build a Wharram or Woods design, et. al, to your specs. It's the traditional time vs. money thing... I suggest you keep this business model you now have (because stranger on the Internet), if it offers any surplus of time or money, to work to that goal. Maybe you need two channels, a DIY and broker/rep type?
As you probably already know, the Wharrams don't have a meaningful bridgedeck enclosure, they are really twin canoes (channel Lucky Fish), like this boat, but the Woods cats do. Speaking to this boat specifically, the cost to cut away the pilothouse and replace the deck gelcoat or underlayment is absurd, especially because you'd have to relocate to do it, or just as bad, motor the beast to your preferred location and haul it out. Appended sugarscoops are never a good idea. There's a lot of up force on a fast cat's aft end. Outremer's engineers are not stupid, there is a reason they didn't add skinny extensions to the aft of their design. It costs speed and adds weight; their engineers are famous for their quote: to take the toothbrush and cut it in half!
There I hope all you cheapskates who were asking for tours for "everyman" boats instead of beautiful models are happy now.
I agree. But finding some boats with some unique refits and complete change in layout would be interesting.
lol
lmao
Way out of your league on knowledge to purchase this. Have a professional survey before you waste yours and our time. This station has no direction and not enough good feel sorry guys. Find a direction. Good luck
@@ronniehdable Dude They are young! If you're watching this for direction from a couple of Millennials 'YOU' need some direction, they are both young, fresh, sexy, energetic, spontaneous, and fearless of the future, everything 'WE' used to be and no longer are, hence why I'm watching, you go kiddo's I love your channel.
This is a day sailor at best! And watching the video, I’d say run, run fast, run far, and don’t look back, that boat will cost 20,000 grand plus! Sugar scoops are rotten, not faired properly, roof is rotten, and it’s just way to much work.
35 to 40k at most, great project where the results would be worthwhile . Remodelling would be all part of the repair. the comments you make re living space is fixed with a different cabin top design . For me a beauty
Just had another thought. I think you guys enjoy showing boats more than sailing which is fine. You need to go ahead and make it legal and get boat brokers licenses if required for your state. Then have a standard contract to give featured boats owners or brokers that they will pay you a marketing fee if it sells after your video. Brokers typically share fees with other brokers so do it. Also, always use the go pro. You need Tue really wide angle to seethe baits. Sometimes you focus on your wife while she talks about the boat and don't show what she is talking about.
Good job! I like seeing the boats.
Nope, I love a good project. But no thank you.
This project can easily take you two years to get all that core work done. And that’s not my experience. It’s in any refit channel you can watch.
But! This seems more like a racing boat then a cruising boat.
Screams race boat.
And one made for Lake's not the Ocean
@@jeremygenslinger4874 How do you think a french cat build in the 80es got to the US back then? Bet it sailed...;)
@@elektrischunterwegscom they are shipped on cargo ships not sailed across the Ocean to dealers freshwater daysailing boats are completely different from Blue water Ocean sailboats outfitted completely different and the price usually reflects that but not in this case
@@jeremygenslinger4874 This is everything, but a freshwater daysailer. Please look the brand up. Outremer is building performance cruising cats. This is one of their first models and I am pretty sure it did not come by cargo ship to the US east coast...
No way in Hell. I knew she would say that !
Great boat shopping thinking and reviews. I wonder how this one would sail, how fast it would cruise...? I wonder what the thinking with the layout and design was for the originators? Thanks for the video.
Made for day racing and nights tied up at the dock (minimal accomodations - top put on to socialize out of the rain). NOT for safe, live aboard, crusing! Please listen to the comments others have made!!!!
A little history is in order. This type of boat was an outgrowth of the rage for racing catamarans from the late 1970s and well into the 1980s. It was built for racing, not cruising and was built for a very limited life. A multihull builder once told me that if it does not break occasionally you made it too heavy. If I owned it and you offered me 40,000 you would have a deal and I would be dancing in the streets.
you'd have to go full blown Mads on this thing!
This boat will sink your dreams of sailing for the drudgery of repair. And once done? A great inadequate make-do disappointment.
Well said mate
Not sure if they really wanna sail, Jordan seems more like the DIY guy to me, then the cruising type.
I couldn't run away fast enough!
You could buy it for peanuts, strip the hull and tip it, then look for a similar length bare hull and put all the parts on, with a little adjustment.
Look at the Gemini 105, same price range but mu h nicer for cruising.
Interesting video. It caught my eye because we have recently bought a 40ft Gerard Danson catamaran, of a later design, which we are refitting. I can see a few similarities,
This boat would be hard (but not impossible) to rework as regards the accommodation layout for cruising and living. The forward lockers (once cleaned ) would be suitable for fenders and sails, but potentially, you could store too much forward, while there is not much storage aft, leading to a poorly balanced boat with a risk of tipping forward.
Here's an idea for you. Buy the boat in the LOW 5 figures then modify the two hulls so that they can be attached to Freebee (which will lie in the middle). Then you've got a trimaran!
It could be a nice day sail. The boat needs, as you know, a tremendous amount of work. The hulls seemed to narrow and as you pointed out space waisted. If you have kids at some point those exposed engines are terrifying
Where to begin. First, thank you for reviewing the boat. It is a valuable lesson even though you spent money to go up and look at it. Clearly it is worthless. Bet there is an outstanding yard bill and It goes up for a sheriff's sale. Clearly a stripper. You noted the hull were solid fiberglass...but what kind of glass is it? Again probably worthless. And the boat would probably blow up a moisture meter. The only thing I know about catamarans is what I learned on RUclips. I am a power boat guy(did own a sailboat for five years).... but is having those fuel tanks in the very front of the twin hulls a good design? Why would someone install new engines, rigging and sails before assessing what it would cost to fix up the boat if possible? From a design perspective it looks like a poorly designed kit boat. The cockpit and hull access are awful. I did find the comments below very entertaining. A boat you will love is out there waiting to be found. Wishing you all the best of luck.
How come you guys are always looking at boats instead of sailing your own?
Not trying to criticize, just genuinely curious.
Makes great youtube content. I enjoy it. This is a speed boat.
IT gets views
Yes please tell us...enough boat tours...I guess we can call this channel learning boat tours
It could pay off as a work boat. Maybe harbor tours, a party boat for Spring Breakers, or schlepping snorkelers. No one is sleepng on it, no one is going on long trips in it, and the extra storage has a use. You would need a construction crew that is fast and cheap and have a buddy in the salvage business. The new engines are a big plus as they will be pounded into paste.
that man is in love!!
This makes the saying bust out another thousand a whole new meaning
LOL FUNNY I THOUGHT THIS EPISODE WAS A JOKE REALLY HAVE THEY LOST THEIR MINDS?????
That looks more like a racing cat than something for passage.
New Outremer's have fuel and water on the bridge deck adjacent to the main beam, fuel tanks where they are is a bit of a waste of space, forward lockers simply cut out the main bulkheads and ring frame in solid glass and extend the living space, usually heads forward, would recommend fire rated or rigid SS fuel lines. Coach house roof and hull extensions are cut off and start again, would also recommend a light composite compression post from the forebeam to the bridge deck and move the windlass to the centre of the boat on the main beam, so lots of work but all doable, probably 12 months worth of weekends, flowcoat all the internals but would make a most excellent project at the right price. new Yanmar 15s are about 3.5K USD each, new rig maybe about 20K USD including new sails, boat as it stands maybe about 10K USD, so fair offer around 40K USD which is probably way less than the broker is asking for.
Run don’t look back and make us happy!!