The natural progression of a Camaro Owner. Pull the fuse...still not happy. Upgrade exhaust...it goes quiet too soon thanks to AFM. Buy Range Device to disable AFM....NOW YOU ARE HAPPY! Now we are left wondering if we had bought the Range device from day one....if we needed to upgrade the exhaust. Well...I am glad i did!
Thank you for this video! I've been debating about whether to pull the fuse or not. However, after watching this video, I went for it. I checked the value after a few mins, and it remained opened. I did not see any error codes on the dash. I can't wait to get out driving to test the sound.
In my 2021 RS there’s a setting where you can disable automatic selection on the exhaust sounds based on mode select and I just select to have it on sport sound on every mode (my RS only has sport, tour, and snow/ice)
It’s in the infotainment center, under vehicle, the engine sound management. You can also set your steering to be in one mode all the time. But if you don’t pull the fuse, the AFM, will close the valves still, when it switches to V4.
You should just do an AFM delete and get rid of that AFM module/valve. That AFM is terrible for your engine and causes premature lifter and engine failure. Not to mention, that AFM is only good for about 1-2 MPG. You bought a V8, not for the fuel economy, so whoever thought it was a good idea to put the AFM on the SS and ZL1 models, had to be higher than a kite. If you want a Camaro, and good gas mileage, go by a 4 cylinder smh🤦♂️
@@jasonagosto5127 Usually when you do a full AFM/DOD delete, you have to take the top half of the motor apart and replace the lifters, lifter trays, camshaft, etc and then you have the vehicle tuned, to disable the AFM from the ECM and this ensures no CEL light. Then you can unhook the valve and sell it or save it and zip tie the wire to the harness. Or you can buy a range AFM disabler that plugs into your obd2 connector ($200 on Amazon) and leave it plugged in. AWE also makes a valve simulator that hooks to the original wiring, if you want to put aftermarket exhaust on there, that doesn’t have AFM and you don’t want to do an AFM total delete. It cost me 6k to do a total delete but that included a BTR 225 cam that added 100 horses and the tune, that was 1k by itself.
In the settings there is a "Engine sound" selection, and you can use 5 different settings. 1.Auto 2.stealth 3.Tour 4.Sport 5.track. I have a 2021 SS1-1LE, and when the setting is selected, regardless of what I select to drive in, my exhaust remains the same. I really don't get why you would want to completely disable that function. I do like my exhaust loud, and I plan on doing some big time replacement of stock components from headers on back, but regardless of what I install, I intend on retaining the NPP function. You never know if you might need to stealth out on down the road and I'd hate to have it disabled and not be able to find the fuse, etc etc etc. I just don't get it at all TBH, it's just a button push in the cockpit? To each their own though I always say. I've heard folks say that they think the stock exhaust is plenty loud enough for them too, but we all know that's not true 🤣🤣🤣.
Okay I read some of the comments and it appears that this only applies to the Auto... Active fuel management.. it seems. Thankfully I bought the 6 speed... I have heard great things about the current Auto trans, but I just can't purchase the Auto, when I have the chance to get a stick shift. I'm pretty certain one day they are not going to be available and that stick is a huge reason that this car is so awesome imo. Thanks
Even in track mode the valves close some under certain speed and rpm, this eliminates that and the need to consistently go into settings and change the mode on every startup
Hey Josh! Been a long time sub. Had the '19 V6 and did the Borla Atak per your recommendation. Whats the difference between pulling the fuse and just selecting Track mode in the Engine Sound Management screen? I've since upgraded to a '16 2SS.
Hey man, I remember! So even after swapping to track mode, the valves do still move a little depending on engine load. Pulling the fuse ensures they are wide open at all times
@@chadpugh1490 you’re welcome. Make sure to leave your car in track mode when you turn it off so the valves are left open before pulling the fuse. You as well!
U really don’t need to fuse pull when you can simply just go into the vehicle settings and have the valves always open so when you’re in tour mode etc it’ll always be open. But good video !
@@shaadow1le523 even if you set it to sport or track exhaust mode in settings the valve will still close when in a higher gear or at low rpm’s, or when you start up your car the valves will close a couple seconds after startup. That’s why sometimes if you press on the gas slightly you’ll hear the exhaust get louder then quiet down again because the valves close.
This was a great video and I can say I knew it wouldn’t do a lot but I was still exited to try it. But YIUR better off putting your car in track. It doesn’t have all the crackles it would if it was in track. It’s got some but nothing like as of it’s really in track. I think this is pointless to do. But I did like the video thank you
I just bought my 2022 Camaro a few days ago but i noticed you can go into your settings on the infotainment screen and change the exhaust sound there... Is this the same thing?
Nice! So what that does is change the valve position based on the mode selected, track mode meaning valves are fully open. When the car starts, it always starts fully open then closes to tour. By pulling the fuse mentioned in the video, your car will always sound like track mode regardless of what mode you are in because it can’t relay back to the valves to close. This will not throw a code👍🏼
I’m confused bro I have the 2022 ss 1le And for the exhaust like I usually keep car in sports mode. When I start the car, it stays in sports mode, Are you saying the valve works more throttle based? I’m not sure. Maybe it’s different for manual? I just don’t get it because when I start my car it gets quieter but I thought because it warms up etc not because of valves I only thought valves changed based off changing to your / track / snow / sport etc But ur saying even if I’m in sport and start it will go to your mode style till I get on throttle?
What this fuse pull will do is make it to where you never have to swap modes again to have the full exhaust note. After pull, you can leave car in tour but it will sound like track
Hey Josh, great content, question, so I removed the NPP and after I started it, the exhaust still got quiet after a few seconds of it running, is that normal? Or do you only experience the open sound of the exhaust when driving? #2021camaross
Hey, thanks! So it’s natural for the car to quiet a little after start up, that’s normal. Just like after a cold start it’s super loud then quiets up some; however, it’s not going to get as quiet as it once would under tour mode. You can always get down and look to make sure your valves are still open after it quiets some
Hi. Is you drive mode menu in the infotainment still available after the fuse pull? In my 2020, the menu disappears completely after the fuse pull, so not even able to adjust suspension and steering. This was not the case when pulling the fuse in my older pre facelift 2017 model.
Not hating on this at all, because I'm a fan of these cars and the louder the better in my opinion. Just wondering why pull the fuse as opposed to just putting it in track mode when you want it loud? From a driver's perspective, is track mode a big difference from touring or sport?
The natural progression of a Camaro Owner. Pull the fuse...still not happy. Upgrade exhaust...it goes quiet too soon thanks to AFM. Buy Range Device to disable AFM....NOW YOU ARE HAPPY!
Now we are left wondering if we had bought the Range device from day one....if we needed to upgrade the exhaust. Well...I am glad i did!
Thank you for this video! I've been debating about whether to pull the fuse or not. However, after watching this video, I went for it. I checked the value after a few mins, and it remained opened. I did not see any error codes on the dash. I can't wait to get out driving to test the sound.
Nice! No problem at all. Glad I could help
Oh that’s sick I never thought of the fuse pull idea 😃😃🔥🔥
It’s a pretty cool trick man🔥
I did it definitely made a difference. Not struggling against the auto valve close pull the fuse the exhaust is open and stays open
Great video man!!! Well said!!! I’m gonna do this mod tomorrow on my 2017 SS!!!! Thanks again bro!!!
No problem!
In my 2021 RS there’s a setting where you can disable automatic selection on the exhaust sounds based on mode select and I just select to have it on sport sound on every mode (my RS only has sport, tour, and snow/ice)
Where is that?? I would love to do it too
@@bandit_2ss it's in the settings
It’s in the infotainment center, under vehicle, the engine sound management. You can also set your steering to be in one mode all the time. But if you don’t pull the fuse, the AFM, will close the valves still, when it switches to V4.
The valves still close at cruising speeds...
My Camaro has the valve rattle to and it’s an EU Modell where the valves are closed in every mode until you get over 60 km/h, so thanks for that
You should just do an AFM delete and get rid of that AFM module/valve. That AFM is terrible for your engine and causes premature lifter and engine failure. Not to mention, that AFM is only good for about 1-2 MPG. You bought a V8, not for the fuel economy, so whoever thought it was a good idea to put the AFM on the SS and ZL1 models, had to be higher than a kite. If you want a Camaro, and good gas mileage, go by a 4 cylinder smh🤦♂️
When deleting the AFM what do you do that the actual AFM module and wiring it self?
@@jasonagosto5127 Usually when you do a full AFM/DOD delete, you have to take the top half of the motor apart and replace the lifters, lifter trays, camshaft, etc and then you have the vehicle tuned, to disable the AFM from the ECM and this ensures no CEL light. Then you can unhook the valve and sell it or save it and zip tie the wire to the harness. Or you can buy a range AFM disabler that plugs into your obd2 connector ($200 on Amazon) and leave it plugged in. AWE also makes a valve simulator that hooks to the original wiring, if you want to put aftermarket exhaust on there, that doesn’t have AFM and you don’t want to do an AFM total delete. It cost me 6k to do a total delete but that included a BTR 225 cam that added 100 horses and the tune, that was 1k by itself.
In the settings there is a "Engine sound" selection, and you can use 5 different settings. 1.Auto 2.stealth 3.Tour 4.Sport 5.track. I have a 2021 SS1-1LE, and when the setting is selected, regardless of what I select to drive in, my exhaust remains the same. I really don't get why you would want to completely disable that function. I do like my exhaust loud, and I plan on doing some big time replacement of stock components from headers on back, but regardless of what I install, I intend on retaining the NPP function. You never know if you might need to stealth out on down the road and I'd hate to have it disabled and not be able to find the fuse, etc etc etc. I just don't get it at all TBH, it's just a button push in the cockpit? To each their own though I always say. I've heard folks say that they think the stock exhaust is plenty loud enough for them too, but we all know that's not true 🤣🤣🤣.
Okay I read some of the comments and it appears that this only applies to the Auto... Active fuel management.. it seems. Thankfully I bought the 6 speed... I have heard great things about the current Auto trans, but I just can't purchase the Auto, when I have the chance to get a stick shift. I'm pretty certain one day they are not going to be available and that stick is a huge reason that this car is so awesome imo. Thanks
CNt you just go in the settings and change exhaust to your mode so it’s open all the time
Even in track mode the valves close some under certain speed and rpm, this eliminates that and the need to consistently go into settings and change the mode on every startup
My afm actuator is broken and rattling, can you replace just the one actuator without a cel coming on ??
I do like this one better. Nicely done.
Thanks!🔥
Can’t wait to get my SS 1 more month of waiting
Nice! You’ll love it!
Thx 4 the reminder
You’re welcome
Nice thumbnail!
Thanks man!
Great info. I will be doing that for sure( just to piss my neighbor 😤 off.
Haha go for it!
@@JCSCUSTOMS btw where did you buy the paint for the add on under your hood? Thanks
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Hey Josh! Been a long time sub. Had the '19 V6 and did the Borla Atak per your recommendation. Whats the difference between pulling the fuse and just selecting Track mode in the Engine Sound Management screen? I've since upgraded to a '16 2SS.
Hey man, I remember! So even after swapping to track mode, the valves do still move a little depending on engine load. Pulling the fuse ensures they are wide open at all times
@JCSCUSTOMS I see. I have no use for anything other than track. So I'll be pulling it. Thx Josh take care.
@@chadpugh1490 you’re welcome. Make sure to leave your car in track mode when you turn it off so the valves are left open before pulling the fuse. You as well!
U really don’t need to fuse pull when you can simply just go into the vehicle settings and have the valves always open so when you’re in tour mode etc it’ll always be open. But good video !
I have a 6speed 2020 1le so unsure if it’s an auto thing lol
My settings have options for mode and steering. When selecting the mode it’s still going to change the valve position. Appreciate it!
@@shaadow1le523 even if you set it to sport or track exhaust mode in settings the valve will still close when in a higher gear or at low rpm’s, or when you start up your car the valves will close a couple seconds after startup. That’s why sometimes if you press on the gas slightly you’ll hear the exhaust get louder then quiet down again because the valves close.
Will it work on a 2010 2SS
@JCSCUSTOMS Isn't this the same as changing the engine sound menu to track mode? While in tour?
Is this the same as going into the settings and putting the exhaust in track mode or is it louder ?
how much down force is that wing giving you? working out for your track, or? Using a front splitter?
This was a great video and I can say I knew it wouldn’t do a lot but I was still exited to try it. But YIUR better off putting your car in track. It doesn’t have all the crackles it would if it was in track. It’s got some but nothing like as of it’s really in track. I think this is pointless to do. But I did like the video thank you
I just bought my 2022 Camaro a few days ago but i noticed you can go into your settings on the infotainment screen and change the exhaust sound there... Is this the same thing?
Nice! So what that does is change the valve position based on the mode selected, track mode meaning valves are fully open. When the car starts, it always starts fully open then closes to tour. By pulling the fuse mentioned in the video, your car will always sound like track mode regardless of what mode you are in because it can’t relay back to the valves to close. This will not throw a code👍🏼
Yes that is the same thing. I do it on my 22.
I have also the squeak on my 21 camaro ss it is annoying man lol
Very! Lol
@@JCSCUSTOMS so no engine light whatsoever for pulling the fuse?
@@213mdodgers9 none at all!
@@JCSCUSTOMS Going to pull it out now lol
@@213mdodgers9 cool!
Hey man long does it usually take for an order from your website to come? I’m planning to buy the third break vinyl that’s why!!
Hey! I typically have orders out within 2 to 3 days then it takes about 3 days to ship
anybody know which fuse it is for 5th gen camaro l99
I’m confused bro I have the 2022 ss 1le
And for the exhaust like I usually keep car in sports mode. When I start the car, it stays in sports mode,
Are you saying the valve works more throttle based? I’m not sure. Maybe it’s different for manual?
I just don’t get it because when I start my car it gets quieter but I thought because it warms up etc not because of valves I only thought valves changed based off changing to your / track / snow / sport etc
But ur saying even if I’m in sport and start it will go to your mode style till I get on throttle?
What this fuse pull will do is make it to where you never have to swap modes again to have the full exhaust note. After pull, you can leave car in tour but it will sound like track
So I did a muffler delete on my 1le and they removed the valves and it threw a code , I disconnected the fuse and when I started the car it was gon
Good!
Change in vehicle settings.
Hey Josh, great content, question, so I removed the NPP and after I started it, the exhaust still got quiet after a few seconds of it running, is that normal? Or do you only experience the open sound of the exhaust when driving? #2021camaross
Hey, thanks! So it’s natural for the car to quiet a little after start up, that’s normal. Just like after a cold start it’s super loud then quiets up some; however, it’s not going to get as quiet as it once would under tour mode. You can always get down and look to make sure your valves are still open after it quiets some
Hi. Is you drive mode menu in the infotainment still available after the fuse pull? In my 2020, the menu disappears completely after the fuse pull, so not even able to adjust suspension and steering. This was not the case when pulling the fuse in my older pre facelift 2017 model.
Hey, so the options are still on mine after fuse pull
Hey, I was wondering if you got a check engine light or anything after pulling the fuse, thanks.
Do you pull the fuse with the car on or off?
Off
What do you have connected to the auxiliary power outlet
It’s a button for a custom third brake light pattern
I have a video for it on the channel
Not hating on this at all, because I'm a fan of these cars and the louder the better in my opinion. Just wondering why pull the fuse as opposed to just putting it in track mode when you want it loud? From a driver's perspective, is track mode a big difference from touring or sport?
The valves also close in track mode under a certain speed and rpm.
@@Mac7504-OG Makes sense to pull fuse then. Thanks 👊
@@Mac7504-OG thanks for the reply, been super busy lately!
@@JCSCUSTOMS no problem at all, glad I could help out.
Do not do this! It creates a check engine light! Does not work
Pulled the wrong fuse