Psychotherapist Reacts To Ren & Chinchilla - Chalk Outlines
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
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Join me, Jim Morris, a licensed psychotherapist, as I react to and analyze the song "Chalk Outlines." I dive into the lyrics, music, and emotional impact of the song, providing insights into themes of mental health, psychotropics, and personal struggles. This is a great song to explore how music can reflect and influence our emotional well-being.
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Medicating Ren in the throws of Lyme disease was like pouring gasoline on a fire. That he is still alive is a miracle.
Great analogy
I always felt that Chinchilla represents someone that walked before him, not with him and she didn't make it through. Hence, the flickering lights and her sudden appearance. As if Ren and his music and what he was expressing called her forward. Then, the sudden black out as she sings the last line, being left to wonder if Ren followed her into the abyss.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts! 🎵❤️🙏
I never thought about it like this, but wow does this theory fit the video!
The terror of degenerative diseases, that one day out of a thousand, when you feel okay, afraid to move because being perfectly still causes no pain. To lay there and absorb what it feels like to not hurt...for just a little while.
Going to sleep because in dreams I can walk around, run, climb, jump...dream.
Knowing that today is the best day of the rest of my life, and today is pain.
The struggle of this song reaches my core.
Thank you for watching and sharing. ❤️🎵🤟
Wow, you have a way with words my friend. You just beautifully encapsulated the struggle of chronic pain. I wish you more days without pain 😢❤
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The best musical “siblings”. Ren has called her his sister from another mister and a female version of himself due to their similar approach to music. For me I think it shows in the fact that they both have that something special that draws you in and demands attention. To see it fully for Chinchilla, check out her live version of Fingers.
This song always reminds that one of the (many) things that makes Ren so great is his ability to know exactly when to be complex, keep it simple, or even use silence to get his message across. He isn’t flexing his guitar skills in this, just playing exactly what is needed with that beautiful guitar tone. And my favourite line in this is so simple, totally devoid of all the clever metaphors that he is so good at using, but it hits soooo hard: “I’m scared of being okay cause all things change”. I think anyone who has been through any struggles can relate to that feeling of not trusting that anything good will last. You can’t just enjoy it because you’re busy worrying about how long it will last and the feeling that will come when it’s gone. And then good days just make the darkness feel so much worse because you remember the light that’s gone… Ren is so special. He keeps being so relatable that it reminds us that we’re not alone. And we will always make room for more RENegades down the Ren rabbit hole cause we all need his light in the darkness 🐰🕳️
If you want more emotional singing from Ren, please check out one of my personal favourites: Crutch feat. Bibi. It’s an older song from before he was finally correctly diagnosed with Lyme disease and was written after a breakdown following multiple emergency trips to the hospital. It is heart wrenching and beautiful. And very different from everything else in his catalogue.
Thanks! 🙏 🎵❤️😎
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**ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED** congratulations! You have discovered new ren friend chinchilla! Yet another rabbit hole to fall down!😂 she has a beautiful voice and a few other collabs with ren 💜💜
🤣🤣🤣 That’s awesome! Thanks! 👍
Yessss! I highly recommend starting with Chinchilla- Fingers(live for hunger tv)❤❤
Said this on a few reactions. Rabbit holes for me imply darker and darker places, bunkering one to reality.
For me Ren is the opposite - he’s opening minds to new clearer vistas, while inspiring free questioning thinking.
If it’s got be a hole - so be I.
I am 62 years old in 2017-2018 I lost ten close family members (all for different health or age reasons), at the same time I also had health issues with my heart and I became depressed and had anxiety. I then had an auto accident where someone crashed into the side of me rolling my vehicle, they were uninsured. I aggravated an old back injury and am now still struggle with my back as a result. Until then I had always been active and fit and enjoyed life, but coupled with the physical health issues and now I have the start of vascular dementia, I struggle to lift out of my low mood. I have tried 6 different anti-depressants over a period of three and half years, slowly increasing dosages as per the doctor's prescriptions after checking my progress, and couldn't get in with any of them. They all made me feel disconnected from my emotions, I didn't feel happiness or sadness, I wasn't passionate about anything, I didn't look forward to anything, just an 'in limbo' sort of feeling. I can also totally relate to the not trusting the good days because you know how fragile they are. Your comments gave me a lot to think about, thank you.
Thanks for sharing this. I’m glad you’re part of this community! ❤️🎵🙏
I can so relate to your story 😢 thank you for sharing. All I can say is that I just needed to hold on to anything positive I could. I'm in a much better place now. I credit my persistence in training myself to always look to the things in my life that I was grateful for. Sounds corny but over time it really does have a positive effect. Best wishes on your path 🎉
Hopefully even sharing that passage will help - that’s how care always worked in small supportive communities. ❤️
I have honestly lost track of how many people, from all around the world and from all walks of life, that have found solace and , for lack of a better word, companionship, in listening to Ren. His rawness and unabashed honesty, though difficult and painful, has opened up a community of people who felt unseen and unheard. , I’ve read the words of so many men who have spent their lives shoving their traumas and emotions down as deeply as they could and then…listening to Hi Ren - they were cracked open and flooded by tears.
Ren is so intricate in the way he thinks. I didn't realize there was a reason for the loud chair, but of course, with Ren there is...Cherophobia, (the fear of happiness, involves a fear of happiness so deep that it affects the activities of your daily life). The amount of knowledge he has is unreal.
😮 I'm a long time Renegade and I hadn't figured that one out! 🫶🤘Thx❤
What I love about Ren is that he’s so relatable. And not afraid to talk about real life problems that people go through every day, like this genius collab. He’s a real gem. And I really liked how you broke down this song from your professional prospective! Noticed the Ren artwork in the back too! Right on 🙌
Thanks for your thoughtful words! Glad you enjoyed it! ❤️😎🙏
Agree. I find a common ground even with the religious being Atheist that is amazing!!
I’ve watched many reactions of this song and it speaks to me. This is the first one that actually gets it. Even other reactors that are professionally in the mental health industry.
This song is so beautifully written, simplistic and impactful. The guitar sounds fantastic and Ren's voice is so emotionally expressive. Great reaction, thank you
It certainly is a beautiful song. Thank you for watching and sharing your kind words.
Always love your reactions 😊 You should check out "How To Be Me" live by Ren and Chinchilla. They are so so good together and of course the content is deep. And if you haven't checked out Chinchilla alone, she just released a brand new song called "1:5" (pronounced ratio of 1 to 5). Her live version is simply a stunning, jaw dropping ballad. ❤️🔥
Fun facts about Chinchilla, (fans are called chillybeans) she wears those long nails and usually makes hats and her own outfits to help beat down her stage fright. She said the nails 💅 in particular make her feel powerful. She also went on The Voice UK 2023 where she shares a snippet of her back story before she Raps (yep she can rap 😆) so that's a good watch and Ren took her busking a few times to also help her stage fright as she had never done anything like that. So there are those videos too 😊 most of the busking are covers but it's amazing to watch them feel n feed off each other, so powerful knowing she is learning and experiencing from him. As always, looking forward to more content 🤗
P.S. she is currently an independent artists, and her live versions are usually one takes as well.
Good to know! Thanks for sharing this! Glad you’re here! ❤️🎵😁
What good timing! I was just watching your reaction to Hi Ren, refreshed my RUclips page and had a new video from you. If you haven't reacted to Ren and Chinchilla's "How to Be Me" yet, that should be next. My father was a psychotherapist before his passing, and I wish I could share this music with him.
Thanks for being here. Shine on!
Yes “How To Be Me” is even better than this, it’s how he felt after losing his friend Joe
Only 6 Minutes into your reaction and SO MANY of your words resonate with me. I hear a Psychotherapist who *understands* his patients. That´s GOLD !
"Zombie, crawl in my bed and NOT want to wake up anymore, emotionally dead, numb, side effects, clouded mind, empty, going through all of this *alone* ... "
You can´t even imagine how *often* i have these thoughts and feelings. That´s what decades with severe chronic depression and loneliness can do to a human being.
Thank you Jim ! I feel heard and understood.
So glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you for sharing and shining light my way! ❤️🎵🙏😁🤟
I imagine both Ren and Chinchilla as ghosts, all in white, haunting their way around the places they died. Somehow they run into each other and whale out their sorrow and pain in hauntingly beautiful song. Then I imagine after they sing they go on with being ghost ...I wonder how many times they have ran into each other and sing this song. Ghosts lost in the pain and fear thats still gripping them even in death ...but thats just the story I made to go along with this. Its one of my favorite Ren songs. I have cried to it so many times.
I love your reaction videos.
Peace
The other part of being OK is that you then have to tackle all the responsibilities and expectations of a fully functioning human in society. That can often feel like a very daunting prospect.
The part about “take it just in case” “I’m scared of feeling okay” (not that you’re wrong) are specific with certain medications. For example, adderall, I might wake up and feel okay but the self talk/my thoughts/voice in my head always convinces me that I should “take it just in case”
I'm so glad I caught this right after you posted it! I haven't even watched your reaction yet, but from what I've seen from your other Ren and NF reactions, I know it is going to be phenomenal.
Please, please, PLEASE, react to Ren and Chinchillas' live performance of "How to be me" next. Trust me, it will completely blow you away.
absolutely hauntingly beautiful performance!
Great to hear. Thanks! 🙏
Love the "sick boi" album hanging on the wall. 😊
Yes! It just arrived from the UK and I quickly put it up on the wall. RENegades unite!
I've watched this video many times and many reactions to it. I have a take on it that many may not think of. I see this as a video of inside his head. The books are his knowledge and the song is his mind talking to him. Just my interpretation.
Ren really makes a good duo with Chinchilla; good lyrics, good music and, as we are used to, a single camera shot. Everything is very credible: The place, the rawness and the interpretation of both.
Although it is difficult to psychologically analyze those that he does not narrate, without losing sight of the musical part. I think Ren and Chinchilla have good chemistry; they will show it to you in other songs together. Whenever someone performs with Ren... he makes it shine, demonstrating his empathy and humility.
Great job and great reaction!! As usual.
Congratulations!
Thanks for being part of this awesome community! Shine on!
I think he looks less like he's thinking as Chinchilla has became a personification of his internal thoughts. They've externalised it by putting her into the frame.
As a bipolar person I never heard anybody describing the feeling of being on certain medications so exactly.
Next Ren and Chinchilla collab is "How to be Me". Please react to that one next! Thanks.
I’ll check it out. Thank you for watching! ❤️🎵🙏
Great job with this reaction! Thus is one of Ren's top 5 songs so far. It is a beauty.
It really is! 🤟🎵
From someone who's been there to someone who is there right now, though it might not seem possible at the time, things will be better. One more breath, one more step. You will get there
Another great review/reaction. Ren is amazing and has a beautiful way of communicating through his music.
Thank you! I think Ren’s music is great too!
Can I just say that you are my therapy session with each reaction. You really don’t realize how much your words during the reactions are so good. I’ve been through 4 local trauma therapists; however, for whatever reason, I actually had an “Ah ha” moment watching your “Chalk Outlines” analysis and something you said. That is the first time in 53 years that I had that realization. Ren is very open about mental health and his music is so relatable. Then you add in your personal feelings of empathy and your words just really resonate with me. Thank you for your reactions. And, yes, music really does heal ❤😊
So great to hear from you! 🙏🤟😎
❤ #ren #chinchilla ❤
Both absolutely outstanding
Great reaction & breakdown 🖤🤍
Glad you liked it! ❤️🙏
I believe just as in ‘hi Ren” the flickering of the lights indicated another part of himself. Even although chinchilla is another artist singing - I believe she’s an extended part of his personality/ psyche. They never look at each other or touch her voice reduces he singing about being okay and she fades down underneath the shot of the camera and then she’s gone. And then he’s singing alone.
Thanks for watching sharing your thoughts! ❤️🎵🙏
As he always likes to reference other songs I think so too
I see their outfits as hospital clothes, but also as they ARE the "Chalk figures".
Great reaction 😊
I like that! Thanks for watching and sharing. 🤟🎵🙏
I love how you interpret REN’s masterpieces! I’ve watched a lot of reactions, but your perspective is really spot on and it gives me even new interpretations. Really great and well done!
Glad you enjoyed!
One thing about chronic lyme diseases. The pain is unbearable at times. To lose the ability to walk or stand for more than a few minutes. You loose the ability to think or remember. Then you get better and have hope thinking your past the bad stages for it to hit again usually worse than before. At some point you come to terms with the fact that we all die and that’s the way it works but why do we have to suffer. Is it suffering or a gift? You truly enjoy the good days and have to be ok with the bad ones. Like a halo that floating chalk out line is with you until you lay it down.
The desire to live is a powerful thing.
Also. Scared of being OK. Is so true. My identity is worst-case scenario, what am I if that goes away. Been that for 55 yrs
Your reactions to Ren are fantastic. Thank you so much.
Killing Me Softly With His Songs...
12:37 you can see him really feeling the lyrics … remembering his own experiences. That’s really the point, at least for me, where you can tell he’s REALLY been through it and is speaking from a place of “I’ve been HERE before”.
Well said! 😁🎵🤟
I am a true Renegade… I think your reaction and analysis of this song is so spot on!
You have a beautiful mind ❤ Thank you for the great insights ❤
Wow, thank you! 🤟🎵🙏
Another good listen in the psychotherapy vein is "Suic*de". First half is his struggles and his experience as a contemplator. The second half is how another's affected him.
They are sharing the same path in the sense that she is his echo.
6:41 - As someone who usually takes the quickest route to negativity, I actually interpreted this as hopeful. Similar to what you say, she appears out of nowhere, but I see it as (And try to convince myself of) human connection can come from almost nowhere.
Everything I've heard of Ren is so impactful, and seems to have so many different interpretations. This is why I love watching reactions to his music. Thanks for sharing your perspective!
I am a 43 yr old retired military man who struggles with BPD.
Diagnosed in the military with possible schizotypal comorbitity. I say possible because I didn't stick around to find out. Then, they lumpped it into my records as Eccentric Personality Disorder.
However, this song punches me in a place I didn't know existed. I was treated for a while with moderate to high dose zoloft. That combined with my four pain medications for my back injury, I was what they described here.
Off the head meds cause from what I know you really can't treat BPD that way. But the residue still feels like it's there.
What i hear in this is also the criticism of the medical community that misdiagnosed Ren for YEARS, and therefore spent years treating psychological symptoms as though they were the the primary illness. The years and years of misdiagnosis and mistreatment set back the treatment he needed for the lyme disease that he actually was suffering from, and made it that much harder to treat.
All these doctors were so sure they were RIGHT they didn't ask why the treatments didn't last - why symptom relief was only temporary, at best.
Anyone who struggles with chronic illness(es) knows this cycle intimately. How many of us have been dismissed, condescended to, had pills tossed at us to treat some "psychological illness," only to finally find a medical provider who takes us seriously and discovers that there has indeed been an underlying physical medical problem all along, which, had it been diagnosed and treated when first presented, could have been a relatively minor inconvenience, only to have it become a lifelong ailment because now it's chronic.
I identify so deeply with Ren's lyrics because, while my specific diagnoses are different, I've experienced similar struggles with having actual physical medical ailments passed off and "treated" as psychological problems.
Would love to hear you react to Suicide by Ren and Dollhouse by Melanie Martinez .❤
Only just found you from Ren Rabbit Hole fans and binge watcing your Ren Reactions! For Joe next please
As a person with General anxiety disorder, social anxiety, general depressive disorder, p.t.s.d , codependent behavior, addiction... I can totally relate to not feeling myself anymore, all the meds I'm on and I still feel like I'll never feel happy again, all I know is numbness.. If I didnt have to leave my bed I would stay here forever.. making my youtube videos is one thing that I look forward to and hoping to inspire others in recovery and/or with mental health issues, thats what keeps me going at this point
❤❤❤ Lovely reaction to a great song, thank you
Glad you enjoyed it! ❤️🎵🙏
Just the raw emotions in both their voices is insane
Fantastic reaction sharing to the rabbit hole
I’m grateful for your positive feedback! 😎❤️🎵
Cuckoos nest and Ren, my 2 favourites in one ❤❤
These 2 together are amazing I can't get enough
Insightful breakdown. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
The song & performance are both great.... And your feedback was exactly what I needed to hear tonight. Thank you for doing what you do with for channel. Much love to you & again, thank you thank you thank you!!!!
So glad to hear you’re enjoying the channel. Thanks for being here. Shine on! ❤️🙏
The lights at the beginning reminded me of "brain zaps." MY story is similar to Ren's in that I was treated for psychosis, depression, etc.. but have neuro Lupus (I also had Lyme). It's amazing what can happen with good help and great Drs.. I'm so much better, and working on a Psychology degree.
Awesome to hear about your progress! You’ve got this! 🤟❤️🙏
I dont know that he has any music videos, but could you do some reactions to "Functional Poetry" or "Joy Joy Joooy!" By Narcissist Cookbook? I think his writing is just as poetic as Ren but is disguised with a more jovial tone to it
Honorable mentions; "Ghost Stories" by Narcissist Cookbook
REN x Chinchilla. REN multiplied by Chinchilla?
Hi, new to your channel thanx to Ren, would love to see your reaction on NF, and an Australian singer Kasey Chambers doing a cover of Eminem Lose Yourself
Also CFS/Lyme disease makes you feel like you're not quite alive. We're just existing in a useless body. This makes me feel like a walking chalk outline on a daily basis.
The pills can also referring to all the kinds of medications you're given to try to help with the pain and other physical problems. I rattle when I walk with the amount of medications I take.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. Glad you’re part of this awesome community. 🤟🎵🙏
Thank you for explaining the feelings I better understand what my brother is going through ❤
Happy to help! Thanks for watching! ❤️🙏
I live in a world of pain. I am depressed from always being in pain. When I get out of my bed every morning I know I have about 5 minutes before it feels like I’ve been punched in the body by pain. I could stay in bed forever but I can’t do that due to my spinal stenosis. I’ve also been like a zombie while Doctor’s try to find the one that keeps my head clear. The fear of being okay is real because pain is all I’ve known for 15 years. Thank you for your reaction and explanation of this beautifully sad song.
So glad this video spoke to you! Stay in the light and feed your soul with love. It gives strength! Don’t quit! 🤟❤️🎵🙏
You’ve nailed it. ❣️
Oh my god I absolutely love your interpretation of Ren’s music. The beauty of Ren is although the music is about himself it can apply to anyone for any reason.
Glad you enjoyed it! More to come!
I have never experience an artist or musician who could bring out such emotion in me.
Great insights, thank you for this one. ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
Loved your reaction, thank you, you pointed out some things that I'd never thought of before, new sub ❤
Awesome! Thanks for subbing! ❤️🙏😎🎵
Thank you for a great reaction.
Glad you enjoyed it! More to come! 🤟😎
I just love this song but How To Be Me LIVE VERSION ft Chinchilla tops this IMO. Have you done his chapters or new song Trouble yet? So painful but beautiful.
Thanks for watching. I do have a REN playlist where you can see which songs I’ve reacted to so far. 🙏
You've got to do how to be me by them ❤
I was thinking that all the ledgers and books that he sees at the beginning are abandoned
Like abandoned people
I like that idea. Thanks for sharing it!
Always watch How to be me (live) where their voices blend together hauntingly beautiful.
You’re the pro bro, but I get a revisit of Lou Reed (perfect day) and Grace Slick (white rabbit) but the street experience of the hippy days, being replaced with a grimmer prescribed drug, making the user scared to go without.
That said, I’m 57, was prescribed citalopram a couple of months ago. Lifted me out of a dark place.
Alive long enough to know I’m in a slightly artificial place, it I’m not worrying about the things can’t control - wild digression.
Ren is a fantastic artist, thinker, writer, but he’s not the answer, and nor would he want to be.
Your wise reaction led to this essay ❤️🎹👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@MusicHealsHQ Hello. I liked the way you parse the texts and visual images in the clip, you subtly notice every detail, I was pleased. For you personally, since you are an expert, just for the sake of your personal horizons in the music field (decide for yourself whether you will publish the analysis on RUclips) I suggest you watch the video from the official website of the No. 1 vocalist in my country. In addition to the beautiful vocals, you will be able to appreciate the lyrics and visual images, he writes the songs, lyrics, music and scripts for the clips himself.There are subtitles in English. SHAMAN , Dancing on Glass" (live performance, 70 million views)ruclips.net/video/sXBmlh6tmVw/видео.htmlsi=-ExXgRZq-Y9wHF0l ,, Confession " ruclips.net/video/nLh9WlHp13U/видео.htmlsi=P0wdd-XaPLD8QJ14 , Mom " ruclips.net/video/TXgQJ5Y9tWM/видео.htmlsi=yRqOzYhPitbqsOdL
Great reaction to this amazing song! 💜💜
Thanks for shining light my way. ❤️🎵🙏
Definitely check out Chinchilla’s Fingers (live for hunger TV), Little Girl Gone (Live Requiem version), and 1:5 (live). She’s stunning.
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Thank you for your reaction. Please do their song how to be me next
You rock ❤
Appreciate you! 🙌❤️😎
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Thank you for your perspective. I thoroughly enjoyed it 🎉
I'm so glad! 🎵🙏❤️
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loved this RXN- subbing!
Awesome! Thanks for subbing! 🙏🤟
❤ "How To Be Me", its just beautiful!
It’s on the way! ❤️🎵😁
Thank you!
Thanks
good insight
Glad you enjoyed it!
Subbing and 👍🏻
Welcome! Thank you! 🙏
As someone who at times felt like a guinea pig when we tried to find the right medication for me, I really love this song. I must say I really liked listening to your thoughts/reaction to this song.
Many thanks for your kind words!
Jim, have you worked at a prison?
I have extensive past experience working with people on parole and probation. (Not inside prison).
@@MusicHealsHQ Thanks Jim, I thought so. That adds enough perspective to help me better understand some of your comments.
I'm pretty sure Ren wrote this in a bed while suffering from psychosis and physical pain. RENegades? @RenMakesMusic