CORRECTION: I clicked the wrong picture when recording the bokeh comparison screencast of the two 56mm lenses. Updated screencast: ruclips.net/video/YoE4YzIJRtc/видео.html
My god these comments. People, the Fuji lenses are just more expensive. Saying things like "oh you should have compared it to the EVEN more expensive new lens" just drives the point home further. These Sigma lenses are an amazing deal and are some of the best optics ever made for APS-C.
Thank you for the systematic comparison of these lenses. It's good to see that Sigma is getting into making X mount models and that they are very good optically. A couple things to note from an avid Fuji shooter who also shoots Nikon: 1) The lack of aperture rings on the Sigma versions would be deal breakers for me. I use the X-T4 and X-T2 cameras and enjoy their dial-based controls, which includes adjusting the aperture ring. There are Fuji cameras more based on control wheel operation, for which it might not be that big a deal, such as a X-S10. 2) I have all three of the Fuji lenses and have been very happy with them. In general use, the 16mm and 56mm, in particular, have seemed quite sharp and pleasing. The 35 mm is beloved amongst Fuji shooters more for its special "character" and rendering than for its sharpness. I recently started using their new 33 mm 1.4, which is much sharper and significantly update in terms of AF motors and speed and overall ruggedness. 3) Although all three of the Fuji lenses in this comparison have long been faves of Fuji shooters, they are older designs now. Their new 18mm and 33mm 1.4's might have been better choices to compare to the new Sigma's. 4) If you can live with the new Sigma's lack of aperture rings, they look like excellent values, especially if their AF speed is acceptable. I hope Tony does tests them further on that front, and includes the newer Fuji's in his comparisons. Thanks again, Tony
Interesting choice of 10+ year old Fuji lenses to compare. Not a single contemporary Fuji lens in the review like the XF18mm and 33mm. That is the real bar of native lenses that Sigma should demonstrate they can get close to at a cheaper price i.e. prove their value for money as a cheaper modern lens against comparable modern technology lenses in the native line-up. It is difficult to believe the price bracket argument for the selection of lenses in this review. As of today the new FUJIFILM XF 18mm f/1.4 R LM WR Lens costs USD999 in the B&H website. Likewise, the FUJIFILM XF 33mm f/1.4 R LM WR Lens is USD799. Well that is the same / pretty close to the Fujifilm 16mm f1.4 ($1,000) and Fujifilm 35mm f1.4 ($600) quoted in this review. No doubts Sigma must be a good budget option for many people, as Viltrox also is. However, by omitting the comparison with modern Fuji lenses, this review seems to only create an urgency of viewers to sell their old Fuji gear and rush to buy Sigma, which is OK for this channel's commercial interests and KEH sponsorship. But it just would be nice the channel starts seeing us as Photographers and not as mindless consumers.
@@nicklennaerts4791 Good to know. Also half a decade+ younger than the lenses chosen in this review. The main point though is that when Sigma releases lenses in 2022 for Fuji-X, they are 2022 products from a Fuji-X user perspective and regardless of what technology Sigma decided to re-use. It then seems sensible to expect that their performance will be compared with 2020-21-22 products already available in the market. Anyway, more online reviews are coming up every day including those comparisons.
@@FernandoG_ you're not making sense, Sigma's lenses are simply better. I don't see the problem, they are less expensive than every Fuji lens they compared to while being optically superior. The newer Fuji lenses you want them tested against are even more expensive, how would that make any sense? Considering these Sigma lenses are some of the best optics made for APS-C I feel like this comparison you want would just embarass Fujifilm.
@@memcrew1 It has been 10 months since I saw one of the early comparisons but since then more comparisons became available like Gordon Laing's "Sigma 30mm f1.4 REVIEW for Fujifilm X vs XF 33mm 1.4. If you do a search there must be more available in You Tube today.
Yeah and I'd also like to see a comparison against the newer Fuji glass, but I chose the closest lenses based on function and price. The Sigma lenses are quite a bit cheaper, so I assumed buyers would only consider them if they had a tight budget. I didn't expect the Sigma lenses to be so much better optically.
I am glad Sigma finally released these lenses. The 56 f1.4 might be the upgrade from my Fuji 50mm f2. Also a (probably) unpopular opinion, but I am more excited for the Sigma 18-35 1.8 than the already announced 18-50 f2.8, as it might have the potential to replace the Fuji 18 f1.4/f2, Fuji 23 f1.4/f2 and the 33 f1.4/35 f2. Of course, this would not match these f1.4 Fujis when it comes to optical performance and maximum aperture, but it would be really convenient and obviously 1/3 stop brighter than the f2 equivalents.
The 18-35 is a DSLR lens. So far, Sigma hasn't shown any interest in updating this lens for mirrorless systems, even for Sony. I hope they change their minds, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
@@Someonecalledluiz My thoughts exactly, I highly doubt Sigma is suddenly going to release the 18-35 on mirrorless now, when they've had how many years to do it for Sony?
Finally, Fuji users have some good and affordable third-party options. Hopefully, a trio of these lenses will be offered for Fuji as well at around $1000, as it's available for other mounts as well. And hopefully, people will no longer have to reach for Viltrox in order to have lower-cost alternative to native glass :) Btw, these lenses should be a wake-up call for Fuji to update the rest of their old primes. Having some serious competition clearly shows how outdated those lenses are in terms of optics.
@@rensaudade Then your only options are Fuji lenses at double the price and with lower image quality, or Viltrox lenses with a similar price and significantly lower image quality.
I’m thinking of purchasing a Fuji as a second camera, depending on what comes out this year. I’d really like to see a comparison to the new Fuji lenses as well. That would be what I would compare myself.
@@djstuc 1- The 18mm f/1.4 is different from the 16mm f/1.4 in that there was already an 18mm f/2 that it replaced, unlike the new 33mm f/1.4 which replaced the 35mm f/1.4. If you wanted to get the newer 16mm lens then it would have to be the 16mm f/2.8, but because of the 2-stop difference it would not make sense to compare them apples to apples. 2- The 16mm is a 24mm FF equiv. and 18mm is a 27-28mm FF equiv., both of which are already established and well known focal lengths. Also, keep in mind that wider focal lengths can dramatically alter your composition by even 1mm, and as such, wider focal lengths differ significantly more than the normal angle of view of the 50ish mm lenses. 3- Sigma only makes a 30mm (45mm FF equiv.), not a 33mm (49.5mm FF equiv.) nor a 35mm (52.5mm FF equiv.) to compare. So no, the 18mm f/1.4 is not a replacement of the 16mm f/1.4 and should not be used in place of the 16mm to compare to Sigma’s 16mm.
@@djstuc Moving the goalposts? What are you yapping about? I carefully explained why the 16mm and 18mm are not lenses competing in the same space, and how the normal angle of view lenses don’t differ as much. Not sure what doesn’t make sense to you, but this ain’t rocket science, and anyone that knows how lenses and photography work would understand the difference.
Definitely surprised at the difference, thank your for the tests. I think the fact that the Fuji lenses are about 10 years old on average was maybe not stressed enough, and perhaps the new Fuji 33mm was a better comparison. I will probably be buried with my 16mm but good to know for the other focal lengths, cheers!
fuji 33 is considerably sharper and has better contrast than 35, in my humble experience! I did not do any comparison tests but it is obvious (at least to me) just by looking at the photos.
@@GoranSlika Would make absolute sense from a financial standpoint. I was just reacting to catvideis' comment where he mentioned the 33's superiority compared to the older 35. Just wanted to point that it was also superior to the Sigma.
Huge fan of Sigma! I shoot Sigma on Sony and their lens are fantastic. Good for Fuji users. I feel they will pay half the price for a better lens even without the aperture ring.
no everyone. and character is old. stuff you can add any character to a lens in post if that what turn you on, go wild make it as blurry as you desire.
The 35 1.4 is tiny for its aperture. It can still be used as a relatively compact package. The Sigma is obviously better technically but for being 5mm shorter and therefore close to the compact 27mm (40mm FF) classic pancake range the Sigma is a bit huge. I cannot wait for the Sigma 18-50mm though, that will be extremely helpful for all size and weight conscious shooters.
@@ivankiefer3886 why waste time in post. If I can get the character in camera that is definitely what I will do. That means I get to spend more time behind the camera and less time in front of the computer.
Great comparison and it’s fabulous to see sigma finally move to Fuji, can’t wait for the new Sigma vs Fuji 150-600. In the meantime, can we see these sigma against the new Fuji lenses please?
I just picked up this lens yesterday. I got rid of my Fuji 56mm 1.2 last year. I have to say that at half the price of the Fuji 56 1.2 the Sigma is a much better lens. The picture quality is sharper with great contrast and a bit warmer. For those saying that you do not need this much sharpness in a portrait lens, yes you do. You can always soften up a sharp photo but trying to sharpen up a soft photo is a greater challenge because it can produce undesirable artifacts. The auto-focus on an XT3 is faster as well. I didn't care for it on the XT-20 but on an XT3 it is awesome. I miss the aperture ring but not a big problem or a deal breaker. It feels high quality it is also much lighter and a little smaller than the Fuji 1.2. It's a keeper for me.
Agreed the exterior build doesn't exude luxury and tactility the way the Fujis do, but having used the Sigma 56mm F1.4 on both MFT and Sony, I can say with confidence it blows the Fuji 56 F1.2 out of the water in terms of actual performance (i.e. sharpness, AF speed/accuracy, lack of CA, etc.). Wish it had the aperture ring and good looks, but I shoot professionally, and at the end of the day the Sigma is the better tool (if a bit soulless by comparison).
I have the Sigma 30mm and 56mm for my OM-1 mark III, but I didn't buy the 16mm because it's way, way too bulky for a 32mm (FF equivalent). The compact and super sharp 56mm (112mm FF) is by far my favourite of the three
Looking forward to getting the 56mm for my EM5-III. My dream lenses are Sigma 35mm f/1.2 and 105mm f/1.4 on a Sony full frame body but way out of my budget atm. So the little 56mm looks like an absolute gem and when used on an MFT camera it should be a like a baby 105mm 1.4! I do also love the look of the Panasonic Lecia 12mm f/1.4 from samples I've seen (read some comments that it may also have been a Sigma design as Sigma is known to have designed some MFT lenses as OEMs) but as the 12mm is quite pricey I've been wondering about the Sigma 16mm to get the shallow depth of field wide angle look but as you say it is quite bulky - maybe best to get the little Olympus 17mm which will fit a lot better with the EM5, and just save up for the PL 12mm in the future.
Rather have a Quality, compact f2 18mm X mount offering than any of these giant behemoths which makes the already oversized 1.4 16mm Fujinon look dainty!
Sadly, it seems like Sigma just ported three lenses from E-Mount to X-Mount, without thinking about why some people shoot Fuji: aperture rings, all manual settings, haptic, look&feel of the camera and lens... These new Sigma lenses might be optically better, and cheaper - but in my opinion Sigma totally missed the point. Maybe Sigma will bring out an "Art"-version, with aperture rings, metal instead of plastic, weather resistant, and maybe F1.2 (or even faster?); then these lenses would be really pieces of "Art". ;) This feels like an unfair (though very thoroughly executed) test: new Sigma vs old Fuji. Then, what about a comparison between these new Sigma lenses, and the NEW Fuji lenses: XF 18mm F1.4 R LM WR, the XF 33mm F1.4 LM WR and the (granted, not so cheap) XF 50mm F1.0 R WR?
Thats pretty much the sigma business model though, make a single lens design that can then be used for a wide variety of camera mounts, thats how they keep prices as competitive as they are because they eseentially manufacture a single lens for the whole market. if they made custom fuji ones with aperture rings and more bells and whistles you'd likely almost reach fuji prices, at which point why not just get fuji. I think it makes a lot of sense for people entering the fuji ecosystem to be able to get a trio of good primes in the standard range for just over 1k total. While the fuji lenses are good and well made it is a lot of money for an APS-C lens.
Why would they design entirely new optics just for Fuji when their existing designs were already better than anything Fuji had? You're suggesting they should be compared to lenses that are 2-4x the price, this comparison is completely fair as Fuji is was still selling those lenses are MORE than the Sigma's cost. Oh, and these lenses ARE weather sealed.
I still really want the sigma zoom 18-35mm f1.8 on fuji. for run and gun video work that lens is amazing (especially if paired with ibis). one of the best lenses ever made (although bad breathing in video)
Nice review Tony. It would be interesting to see this comparison with the newer Fuji lenses like the 33mm f1.4 rather than the older glass. Some of those lenses are quite old by comparison. It will also be interesting to do the same with the imminent new body from Fujifilm. Have a great week.
I do think it would be interesting to compare them to Fuji's top-end glass. When I chose the lenses for comparison I was factoring in price, figuring that if you were considering the Sigma lenses you probably weren't choosing top-end glass... I didn't expect the Sigma's optical quality to be so much better!
@@TonyAndChelsea Yeah, that's what I figured you did. For me, as an amateur, even these are probably too expensive for me. I'm pretty much in the Fuji f2 prime price range. I'm hoping that the new body along with the new glass will increase the number of f2 primes available on the used market as well as making them more affordable. Thanks again for your insight.
The Viltrox 13mm is a superb lens. The Sigma 16mm is a great lens as well. I’ve had the Sigma on my Lumix and the Viltrox on my Nikon. Shame you didn’t test the Viltrox 13mm it gives the Sigma 16mm a run for its money.
Good to see a comparison, especially against lenses I love (like the 16). It will be super interesting to see how the mkii 56 compares to the Sigma, because, as much as I loved the 56mm f1.2 at times, there are other times, whether due to lack of sharpness or the horrific fringing in certain scenes, where it really shows its imperfections. I've recently reverted to shooting solely with the f2s (with the exception of the 27 f2.8 and 35 f1.4) but always good to see 3rd parties joining the mix!
When showing the X-Pro3 viewfinder, it would have been better if the frame lines were showing. I still have no idea how much each of them blocks the frame in the ovf. That being said, I don’t think it’s really that important since these are not lenses that Pro3 users are typically going to buy. My go to X-Pro3 kit contains the 18 f2, the 23 f2, the 35 1.4, the 50 f2, and a Leica tele-elmarit 90mm f2.8. It all fits nicely in a peak design 5L sling along with a small flash, power bank and some small stuff.
Thanks Tony! The lack of aperture rings is a deal killer for me. Can't imagine what Sigma is thinking when Fujifilm is known for their analog/tactile controls. Seems like it should have been a no-brainer, especially when other Sigma lenses have them. Sigma didn't do their homework for their intended market.
These Sigma lenses have been around for years, they were not designed with Fuji users in mind because they were not designed for Fuji in the first place. Sigma's LATER lenses have aperture rings, but not ones that were released around the same time as these. I think I'll take a far lower price with far superior optics over an aperture ring any day.
I know what I'm thinking: the Sigma 56mm is a better portrait lens than the Fuji 56mm. Sharper, better AF, les CA... Agreed it's not as nice to feel/behold, but shooting professionally I don't care. Just had the Fuji 56 out on a job yesterday and was just as annoyed as always at how poorly it focuses in low light, tracking/CAF basically not usable, etc. Between that and the low contrast images anywhere below F2, it's just a letdown, and Fuji should be ashamed that they're **still** selling it for $1000 USD to this day.
For zoom telephoto and the 35mm if I had a Fuji camera I would still choose fujifilm lenses. For the 16mm and the 56mm i think Sigma lenses are equally good for even professional shots.
It's great to have more options for lenses as a Fuji user. I do miss the aperture ring, though not a total deal breaker. But my 85mm for my Sony does have it. Maybe if these sell well and the demand stays, maybe Sigma will release updates in a few years with aperture rings.
Outstanding review! Direct A-B comparisons are the far most revealing way to judge image qualities. Well done. I'm sold on that Sigma lens. No aperture ring, but I finally found a really good purpose for my X-T4's dial for the aperture. I have a Fuji 16-80mm lense that I might want to sell since it's basically the same as my other 18-55mm kit lens.
They announced it today on their website. Would have preferred if they started with that one but at least it is coming. The Fujicrons will suffer a lot from that but for the consumers it is a much needed addition, de 16-55 is far too clunky.
Awesome test Tony! Thank you for the honest review, I am very surprised Sigma lenses performed better than the Fuji. I am very happy Sigma is finally making lenses for Fujifilm I hope they bring all their lenses with aperture rings in the future. The noisy and expensive Fujifilm fast primes have always been a hurdle for me. Upgrading to the XT4 with this trio of Sigma fast prime lenses is now a viable option.
I’ve been shooting for 30 years. Maybe it was my sample but my Fuji 35mm f1.4 was the sharpest lens I’ve ever had, even sharper than my Canon 70-200 F4 which was reputedly one of the sharpest lenses ever made.
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Dear Tony, I ve been watching you with great respect for quite sone time. I myself am a youtuber Based in Turkey reviewing mainly fujifilm gears. This video is simply perfect. I intend to make an announcement video about the these new sigma lenses. We will probably not be able to get our hands on these lenses for a few months in Turkey. So rather to only talk about these lenses on a few pictıres I would like to ask for your permision to mention your names as a reference review video and add very little parts of your footage into my content. I would understand if you say no andrespect your wish. However I would greatly appreciate your aproval and be greateful and God knows maybe host you and Chelsea in Turkey.
Sell my Fujifilm lenses and buy the Sigma? No thanks. The differences are so negligible and I've never used the 56 1.2 or the 16 1.4 and had even one complaint about sharpness and I always shoot wide open. Thanks for the comparison but the Fuji lenses are excellent. What I will buy from Sigma are the f1.8 zooms and maybe a 70mm f1.2 (if they eventually did that)
Probably much cheaper to just switch the mount and flash a different firmware than change the design of the lens to accommodate an aperture ring. They are older lenses that have been available for a while for other mounts after all.
Interesting but I’m not understanding why you chose to compare older technology to newer technology? How would the Sigma lens compare with Fuji’s newer generation of these lens? And will the Sigma lens perform well on the upcoming generation of Fuji cameras (with higher no sensors)?
Damn you really know how to down grade lenses and the Fuji xt4 ! Saying it’s more a hobby camera etc . I love the camera and it’s as good as the canon and Sony. Great to know sigma is sponsoring this video 😉
These lenses are also available for Sony e-moint and I think they compete better there where the Sony native options don't have clicking aperture and focus rings. Either way though, they have great performance for the price and you can often find them heavily discounted around the holidays and at random other times.
Great review! I will likely pick up the 56mm Sigma. Thanks for confirming the skin tones on some Fuji lenses are not great. I shot Canon and Fuji and I just find the Canon skin tones are just more pleasing. Shooting Fuji just makes me appreciate Canon more. Fuji is an fun system to shoot with I just would not use it professionally.
Yeah awesome that Sigma is joining with quality lenses. Those fuji lenses are of course way older than the sigmas. But still very impresses. About the Viltrox. The 85mm 1.8 is still one of my favorite (portrait) lenses. The 23mm is also pretty nice but less contrasty than the fujis. And the fringing full open is a thing for Viltrox.
Hello T&C. Maybe I am mistaken, but did you say there would be a follow-up test showing the autofocus capability of these lenses? I looked but didn't see a follow-up video? You could just tell me, maybe on the X-H2S? :)
Can you answer me a question dear Tony & Chelsea Northrup? Is it true that fujifilm files have certain problems of compatibility when editing in Lightroom and Photoshop? Thanks.
I just watched two other comparisons between the Fuji 56 1.2 and the Sigma 1.4 and both showed the Fuji to be superior. Now, according to your test the Fuji's don't come close to the Sigma. Somethings not right.
Hey thanks for testing! Interesting to see how they stack up. But good to see that the colors look quite similar, so the lenses can be used together. Really hoping on a successor the their famous 18-35 lens. If they could make that weather sealed, with an aperture ring and preferibly a bit wider. 16mm please? And sharp enough for the X-h2. Then I would be really happy. I like the image quality of these three lenses, but the lack of an aperture ring makes them not very practical. It would mean changing the function of the control ring when changing lenses....
Tony, help me here. When you mention Sigma struggling more for auto focus, does that include newer Sigmas for Sony, since Sony opens its engineering and no reverse-engineering is needed anymore? Im planning to buy a couple Sigmas for A7iv and your answer might be decisive for my purchase. Cheers.
It very much depends on the specific lens and camera, but yeah, generally we've had serious problems with various Sigma lenses autofocusing on Sony cameras. Check our channel for reviews of whichever lens you're considering.
@@TonyAndChelsea thanks a lot. My biggest indecision is on 24-70 2.8 GM vs the Sigma Art. Both Chris Niccols and Jared were more direct towards getting a Sigma for half the price. Being a great admirer of your work, what would you recommend me? Im a hobbyist that wants good quality.
Can anyone explain why he videoed the view through the viewfinder? I believe it's a rangefinder and the view would be identical regardless of what lens is mounted. Or am I showing my ignorance?
I like the tactile aperture ring, too, (maybe it's because that's how we grew up shooting..) But, it's totally unnecessary, in practice. I feel like a 1.4 lens is usually shot somewhere around, oh 1.4? Maybe it's sharper at f2, so fine, f2. With one command dial set to adjust A, you set it to f1.4, and carry on... If you want that bokeh, but there's too much light, I would bump the shutter speed anyway. I think the all of the complaints about the PASM dial on the new xH2(s) is along the lines of the moaning about the aperture rings. I get it, my xH2s doesn't L@@K as cool as my X-T3- but I don't have only 3 or 4 stops worth of shutter speed at the command wheel before needing to turn a dial.. I have all of them. Brings me back to my D700 days. Aesthetically less pleasant? Sure. Functionally inadequate? NO.
It will be interesting to see how they compare to fuji prices, colors and auto focus. Especially compared to the viltrox lenses and the new 1.4 remakes by fuji.
Polycamerous… ahh, if only… having one camera is expensive enough… These Sigma lenses are fascinating, on Canon their Art lenses are fabulous. I was hoping for the 18-35mm, it’s several primes in one. I’m disappointed by the no aperture ring part, I guess it means less re-engineering, just chuck on a different mount and put in the right firmware.
I'd also like to see a comparison against the newer Fuji glass, but I chose the closest lenses based on function and price. The Sigma lenses are quite a bit cheaper, so I assumed buyers would only consider them if they had a tight budget. I didn't expect the Sigma lenses to be so much better optically.
Sigma announced that the 18-50mm 2.8 will also get a X mount version. That will be huge. Fuji failed to create more small and light lenses, lenses like the 16-55 2.8 and some of their primes are far too big for a system that's more in the compact niche.
The compact niche is olympus maybe, now fujifilm is trying to get a more professional market, with uncompromised quality glass, as seen with the new 23 and 33mm. I like this route, maybe they’re going to be on par with the others big brands but going all in on the apsc size (translating in more affordable glas in exchange of some blur)
@@Jacopo599 Imo the amateur = small, cheap, bad vs pro = big, heavy, good is a split Fuji should leave to Canon and Nikon. Fujis look inoffensive and unthreatening which imo is big advantage when working with people or in an urban setting, having a canon barrel as a lens completely negates that. I'm also not saying there shouldn't be big lenses, but just don't forget the compact shooter, good but still compact lenses like the early primes f.e. XF 35mm 1.4 or XF 56 1.2 is something not many systems have.
@@Jacopo599 I would say the Fujifilm new lenses higher sharpness is for upcoming higher resolution sensors, regardless of professional use or not. Whether we need more pixels or not, Fujifilm has to maintain competitiveness and relevancy with sensor specs, also including 8k video. (Personally, I don't feel I need 8K video, and I don't print at all, but I do like zooming in when computer viewing, and cropping is of course useful.)
@@murmor6890 I think that fujifilm has dona a good job in the compact market, but they need to be more invested in the pro market and squeeze the benefits of the apsc sensor: faster readout speed and fps and faster equivalent lenses, in particular they need to do some 1.8 pro zoom and it would be fantastic for pros. Think about it, the same amount of zoom and blur of a 24-70, with the same dimension but with a full stop of light aded, that's the unseen pro of an apsc sensor: have the possibility to get the same qualities of a ff sensor with faster lenses. But at the moment only tamron and sigma has thought about it. It's an interchangeable lens sistem, let me choose between super-pro and big or small and light, i want to have a choice!
@@Paul_Rohde fujifilm is obviusly preparing some big sensor (maybe in collaboration with panasonic if you see some rumors...) but I personally need a big processor-autofocus update for the fuji system, it's the only thing left to do, after that it will be a no-brainer for many photographers and videomakers, maybe with a serious tracking function, it would smash the mid price market of canon and sony. Because at the moment fujifilm is the best price-to-performance on the market, you can tell it just by looking at the lens prices, they're good and half the price of an equivalent canon/sony lens
Thank god they came out with something! I've been extremely dissatisfied with my viltrox lens and wanted to go for the native fuji lens...but couldn't justify the price. After seeing this review its an absolute no brainer to go for the Sigma lens! Thanks for saving me money haha!
Tony the viltrox with the gold letters are the older lens.The newer viltrox lenses have white letters with software the update are much sharper.Retrial please.
Hi Tony, would you consider doing a review on the Sony digital filter app? I can't find much useful information on the web and wonder if a digital filter is a good alternative to a graduated ND filter..
Interesting that you like the aperture dial so much. I recently got a cheap new lens from TTArtistian and it had an aperture dial. I found it really cool but I hated using it.
These are the lenses that kept the Sony aps c line alive! And good to see you back on good terms with Sigma. A certain RUclipsr may explode with anger after watching this video 😂.
Didn't Fujifilm just update all of these lenses (18mm 1.4 WR, 33mm 1.4 WR, and 50mm 1.0)? I understand that they continue to sell this set of lenses but it really doesn't come as any surprise that the Sigmas come out ahead of literally the oldest lenses in Fuji's lineup that have already been replaced. Maybe in the follow up include the newer lenses? Or a separate review dedicated to that newer set. I have the 23mm f2 and the 50f2 and have been tempted by those newer lenses which I'm sure will compete better with the Sigma lenses
So the Sigma's are cheaper and better than the old Fuji that are more expensive, so it would only be fair to compare them to the EVEN MORE expensive new Fuji lenses? Please explain the logic.
Tony test with the stars is totally fault, firstly you have too much shift due to too long exposure, secondly the test should have a coma test at the edges of the image.
Wait what? What's the point of those view finders? How does one know what's in the camera's frame, since it's not even over the lens, but worse, offset to the side?
CORRECTION: I clicked the wrong picture when recording the bokeh comparison screencast of the two 56mm lenses. Updated screencast: ruclips.net/video/YoE4YzIJRtc/видео.html
How about the Tokina 56 1.4 for x-mount.
@@matthiasfoitzik6778 afaik its rebranded viltrox
@@Kobrar44 Tokina its Japan,Viltrox China...
I Have Tokina 56mm/F1.4,pictures its sharp and AF its very silent.
My god these comments. People, the Fuji lenses are just more expensive. Saying things like "oh you should have compared it to the EVEN more expensive new lens" just drives the point home further. These Sigma lenses are an amazing deal and are some of the best optics ever made for APS-C.
Your paying for the size, metal body, and the aperture ring. Sure the sigmas might be a better deal, but there are reason why it’s cheaper vs
@@marrowfilms6187 pay for the aperture ring 🤣🤣
@@daveericson8447 do the 3rd partys have an external aperture ring?
@@marrowfilms6187 Google will show you.
@@bigd7696 That was a rhetorical question buds
Thank you for the systematic comparison of these lenses. It's good to see that Sigma is getting into making X mount models and that they are very good optically. A couple things to note from an avid Fuji shooter who also shoots Nikon:
1) The lack of aperture rings on the Sigma versions would be deal breakers for me. I use the X-T4 and X-T2 cameras and enjoy their dial-based controls, which includes adjusting the aperture ring. There are Fuji cameras more based on control wheel operation, for which it might not be that big a deal, such as a X-S10.
2) I have all three of the Fuji lenses and have been very happy with them. In general use, the 16mm and 56mm, in particular, have seemed quite sharp and pleasing. The 35 mm is beloved amongst Fuji shooters more for its special "character" and rendering than for its sharpness. I recently started using their new 33 mm 1.4, which is much sharper and significantly update in terms of AF motors and speed and overall ruggedness.
3) Although all three of the Fuji lenses in this comparison have long been faves of Fuji shooters, they are older designs now. Their new 18mm and 33mm 1.4's might have been better choices to compare to the new Sigma's.
4) If you can live with the new Sigma's lack of aperture rings, they look like excellent values, especially if their AF speed is acceptable. I hope Tony does tests them further on that front, and includes the newer Fuji's in his comparisons.
Thanks again, Tony
Interesting choice of 10+ year old Fuji lenses to compare. Not a single contemporary Fuji lens in the review like the XF18mm and 33mm.
That is the real bar of native lenses that Sigma should demonstrate they can get close to at a cheaper price i.e. prove their value for money as a cheaper modern lens against comparable modern technology lenses in the native line-up.
It is difficult to believe the price bracket argument for the selection of lenses in this review. As of today the new FUJIFILM XF 18mm f/1.4 R LM WR Lens costs USD999 in the B&H website. Likewise, the FUJIFILM XF 33mm f/1.4 R LM WR Lens is USD799. Well that is the same / pretty close to the Fujifilm 16mm f1.4 ($1,000) and Fujifilm 35mm f1.4 ($600) quoted in this review.
No doubts Sigma must be a good budget option for many people, as Viltrox also is. However, by omitting the comparison with modern Fuji lenses, this review seems to only create an urgency of viewers to sell their old Fuji gear and rush to buy Sigma, which is OK for this channel's commercial interests and KEH sponsorship. But it just would be nice the channel starts seeing us as Photographers and not as mindless consumers.
Fair point but the Sigma lenses are also nearly half a decade old with the 30mm the oldest of the bunch.
@@nicklennaerts4791 Good to know. Also half a decade+ younger than the lenses chosen in this review. The main point though is that when Sigma releases lenses in 2022 for Fuji-X, they are 2022 products from a Fuji-X user perspective and regardless of what technology Sigma decided to re-use. It then seems sensible to expect that their performance will be compared with 2020-21-22 products already available in the market. Anyway, more online reviews are coming up every day including those comparisons.
@@FernandoG_ you're not making sense, Sigma's lenses are simply better. I don't see the problem, they are less expensive than every Fuji lens they compared to while being optically superior. The newer Fuji lenses you want them tested against are even more expensive, how would that make any sense?
Considering these Sigma lenses are some of the best optics made for APS-C I feel like this comparison you want would just embarass Fujifilm.
@@FernandoG_ do you have a link for that comparison?
@@memcrew1 It has been 10 months since I saw one of the early comparisons but since then more comparisons became available like Gordon Laing's "Sigma 30mm f1.4 REVIEW for Fujifilm X vs XF 33mm 1.4.
If you do a search there must be more available in You Tube today.
Awesome review / comparison! +1
Am I the only one who likes the colors of the FUJI 56mm more than the SIGMA 56mm?
You should have compared to modern Fuji lenses: to 18/1.4 and 33/1.4. It's not clear why would anybody even compare to decade-old lenses.
Yeah and I'd also like to see a comparison against the newer Fuji glass, but I chose the closest lenses based on function and price. The Sigma lenses are quite a bit cheaper, so I assumed buyers would only consider them if they had a tight budget. I didn't expect the Sigma lenses to be so much better optically.
I am glad Sigma finally released these lenses. The 56 f1.4 might be the upgrade from my Fuji 50mm f2. Also a (probably) unpopular opinion, but I am more excited for the Sigma 18-35 1.8 than the already announced 18-50 f2.8, as it might have the potential to replace the Fuji 18 f1.4/f2, Fuji 23 f1.4/f2 and the 33 f1.4/35 f2. Of course, this would not match these f1.4 Fujis when it comes to optical performance and maximum aperture, but it would be really convenient and obviously 1/3 stop brighter than the f2 equivalents.
The 18-35 is a DSLR lens. So far, Sigma hasn't shown any interest in updating this lens for mirrorless systems, even for Sony. I hope they change their minds, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
@@Someonecalledluiz My thoughts exactly, I highly doubt Sigma is suddenly going to release the 18-35 on mirrorless now, when they've had how many years to do it for Sony?
Finally, Fuji users have some good and affordable third-party options. Hopefully, a trio of these lenses will be offered for Fuji as well at around $1000, as it's available for other mounts as well. And hopefully, people will no longer have to reach for Viltrox in order to have lower-cost alternative to native glass :)
Btw, these lenses should be a wake-up call for Fuji to update the rest of their old primes. Having some serious competition clearly shows how outdated those lenses are in terms of optics.
The lack of aperture ring is a deal breaker. Me being an X-E series Fujifilm user
@@rensaudade Then your only options are Fuji lenses at double the price and with lower image quality, or Viltrox lenses with a similar price and significantly lower image quality.
Good review, but I think the comparison must be done with the new fuji lenses, not the oldest ones.
The only lens he could’ve used in this comparison is the 33mm f/1.4. For the others, there’s no Fuji equivalent.
I’m thinking of purchasing a Fuji as a second camera, depending on what comes out this year. I’d really like to see a comparison to the new Fuji lenses as well. That would be what I would compare myself.
@@djstuc 1- The 18mm f/1.4 is different from the 16mm f/1.4 in that there was already an 18mm f/2 that it replaced, unlike the new 33mm f/1.4 which replaced the 35mm f/1.4. If you wanted to get the newer 16mm lens then it would have to be the 16mm f/2.8, but because of the 2-stop difference it would not make sense to compare them apples to apples.
2- The 16mm is a 24mm FF equiv. and 18mm is a 27-28mm FF equiv., both of which are already established and well known focal lengths. Also, keep in mind that wider focal lengths can dramatically alter your composition by even 1mm, and as such, wider focal lengths differ significantly more than the normal angle of view of the 50ish mm lenses.
3- Sigma only makes a 30mm (45mm FF equiv.), not a 33mm (49.5mm FF equiv.) nor a 35mm (52.5mm FF equiv.) to compare.
So no, the 18mm f/1.4 is not a replacement of the 16mm f/1.4 and should not be used in place of the 16mm to compare to Sigma’s 16mm.
I chose the closest lenses based on function and price. The Fuji 35mm f1.4 is $600 whereas the 33mm f1.4 is $800.
@@djstuc Moving the goalposts? What are you yapping about? I carefully explained why the 16mm and 18mm are not lenses competing in the same space, and how the normal angle of view lenses don’t differ as much. Not sure what doesn’t make sense to you, but this ain’t rocket science, and anyone that knows how lenses and photography work would understand the difference.
Definitely surprised at the difference, thank your for the tests. I think the fact that the Fuji lenses are about 10 years old on average was maybe not stressed enough, and perhaps the new Fuji 33mm was a better comparison. I will probably be buried with my 16mm but good to know for the other focal lengths, cheers!
fuji 33 is considerably sharper and has better contrast than 35, in my humble experience! I did not do any comparison tests but it is obvious (at least to me) just by looking at the photos.
Tests have revealed that the XF33 1.4 is better in every category than the Sigma 30mm.
@@funfor1life I'd imagine so. Also triple the price. I suppose the point of the video was to see if the sigmas beat the old Fuji's not the new ones.
@@GoranSlika Would make absolute sense from a financial standpoint. I was just reacting to catvideis' comment where he mentioned the 33's superiority compared to the older 35. Just wanted to point that it was also superior to the Sigma.
@@funfor1life and it costs twice as much))
Huge fan of Sigma! I shoot Sigma on Sony and their lens are fantastic. Good for Fuji users. I feel they will pay half the price for a better lens even without the aperture ring.
I think everyone know that the 35 1.4 from Fuji is optically not the best and is more loved for its character. The 35 2.0 is very sharp though
no everyone. and character is old. stuff you can add any character to a lens in post if that what turn you on, go wild make it as blurry as you desire.
The 35 1.4 is tiny for its aperture. It can still be used as a relatively compact package. The Sigma is obviously better technically but for being 5mm shorter and therefore close to the compact 27mm (40mm FF) classic pancake range the Sigma is a bit huge.
I cannot wait for the Sigma 18-50mm though, that will be extremely helpful for all size and weight conscious shooters.
I love the 35mm 1.4 but the focus speed is just too slow, especially for kids.
@@ivankiefer3886 why waste time in post. If I can get the character in camera that is definitely what I will do. That means I get to spend more time behind the camera and less time in front of the computer.
@@ivankiefer3886 i take it you are not into vintage glass?
Great comparison and it’s fabulous to see sigma finally move to Fuji, can’t wait for the new Sigma vs Fuji 150-600.
In the meantime, can we see these sigma against the new Fuji lenses please?
I just picked up this lens yesterday. I got rid of my Fuji 56mm 1.2 last year. I have to say that at half the price of the Fuji 56 1.2 the Sigma is a much better lens. The picture quality is sharper with great contrast and a bit warmer. For those saying that you do not need this much sharpness in a portrait lens, yes you do. You can always soften up a sharp photo but trying to sharpen up a soft photo is a greater challenge because it can produce undesirable artifacts. The auto-focus on an XT3 is faster as well. I didn't care for it on the XT-20 but on an XT3 it is awesome. I miss the aperture ring but not a big problem or a deal breaker. It feels high quality it is also much lighter and a little smaller than the Fuji 1.2. It's a keeper for me.
Would love to see how the newer 33mm Fuji stacks up against the Sigma 30mm
Agreed the exterior build doesn't exude luxury and tactility the way the Fujis do, but having used the Sigma 56mm F1.4 on both MFT and Sony, I can say with confidence it blows the Fuji 56 F1.2 out of the water in terms of actual performance (i.e. sharpness, AF speed/accuracy, lack of CA, etc.). Wish it had the aperture ring and good looks, but I shoot professionally, and at the end of the day the Sigma is the better tool (if a bit soulless by comparison).
I have the Sigma 30mm and 56mm for my OM-1 mark III, but I didn't buy the 16mm because it's way, way too bulky for a 32mm (FF equivalent). The compact and super sharp 56mm (112mm FF) is by far my favourite of the three
Looking forward to getting the 56mm for my EM5-III. My dream lenses are Sigma 35mm f/1.2 and 105mm f/1.4 on a Sony full frame body but way out of my budget atm. So the little 56mm looks like an absolute gem and when used on an MFT camera it should be a like a baby 105mm 1.4!
I do also love the look of the Panasonic Lecia 12mm f/1.4 from samples I've seen (read some comments that it may also have been a Sigma design as Sigma is known to have designed some MFT lenses as OEMs) but as the 12mm is quite pricey I've been wondering about the Sigma 16mm to get the shallow depth of field wide angle look but as you say it is quite bulky - maybe best to get the little Olympus 17mm which will fit a lot better with the EM5, and just save up for the PL 12mm in the future.
Rather have a Quality, compact f2 18mm X mount offering than any of these giant behemoths which makes the already oversized 1.4 16mm Fujinon look dainty!
They are waterproof?
Sadly, it seems like Sigma just ported three lenses from E-Mount to X-Mount, without thinking about why some people shoot Fuji: aperture rings, all manual settings, haptic, look&feel of the camera and lens... These new Sigma lenses might be optically better, and cheaper - but in my opinion Sigma totally missed the point.
Maybe Sigma will bring out an "Art"-version, with aperture rings, metal instead of plastic, weather resistant, and maybe F1.2 (or even faster?); then these lenses would be really pieces of "Art". ;)
This feels like an unfair (though very thoroughly executed) test: new Sigma vs old Fuji.
Then, what about a comparison between these new Sigma lenses, and the NEW Fuji lenses: XF 18mm F1.4 R LM WR, the XF 33mm F1.4 LM WR and the (granted, not so cheap) XF 50mm F1.0 R WR?
Thats pretty much the sigma business model though, make a single lens design that can then be used for a wide variety of camera mounts, thats how they keep prices as competitive as they are because they eseentially manufacture a single lens for the whole market.
if they made custom fuji ones with aperture rings and more bells and whistles you'd likely almost reach fuji prices, at which point why not just get fuji.
I think it makes a lot of sense for people entering the fuji ecosystem to be able to get a trio of good primes in the standard range for just over 1k total. While the fuji lenses are good and well made it is a lot of money for an APS-C lens.
Why would they design entirely new optics just for Fuji when their existing designs were already better than anything Fuji had? You're suggesting they should be compared to lenses that are 2-4x the price, this comparison is completely fair as Fuji is was still selling those lenses are MORE than the Sigma's cost.
Oh, and these lenses ARE weather sealed.
I still really want the sigma zoom 18-35mm f1.8 on fuji. for run and gun video work that lens is amazing (especially if paired with ibis). one of the best lenses ever made (although bad breathing in video)
I am excited for Viltrox 13mm. Hope you get to test that when it comes out.
Nice review Tony. It would be interesting to see this comparison with the newer Fuji lenses like the 33mm f1.4 rather than the older glass. Some of those lenses are quite old by comparison. It will also be interesting to do the same with the imminent new body from Fujifilm. Have a great week.
I do think it would be interesting to compare them to Fuji's top-end glass. When I chose the lenses for comparison I was factoring in price, figuring that if you were considering the Sigma lenses you probably weren't choosing top-end glass... I didn't expect the Sigma's optical quality to be so much better!
@@TonyAndChelsea Yeah, that's what I figured you did. For me, as an amateur, even these are probably too expensive for me. I'm pretty much in the Fuji f2 prime price range. I'm hoping that the new body along with the new glass will increase the number of f2 primes available on the used market as well as making them more affordable. Thanks again for your insight.
The Viltrox 13mm is a superb lens. The Sigma 16mm is a great lens as well. I’ve had the Sigma on my Lumix and the Viltrox on my Nikon. Shame you didn’t test the Viltrox 13mm it gives the Sigma 16mm a run for its money.
Good to see a comparison, especially against lenses I love (like the 16). It will be super interesting to see how the mkii 56 compares to the Sigma, because, as much as I loved the 56mm f1.2 at times, there are other times, whether due to lack of sharpness or the horrific fringing in certain scenes, where it really shows its imperfections. I've recently reverted to shooting solely with the f2s (with the exception of the 27 f2.8 and 35 f1.4) but always good to see 3rd parties joining the mix!
Viltrox has a V2 of this lens.
Which is much better than the one you’ve tested.
When showing the X-Pro3 viewfinder, it would have been better if the frame lines were showing. I still have no idea how much each of them blocks the frame in the ovf. That being said, I don’t think it’s really that important since these are not lenses that Pro3 users are typically going to buy. My go to X-Pro3 kit contains the 18 f2, the 23 f2, the 35 1.4, the 50 f2, and a Leica tele-elmarit 90mm f2.8. It all fits nicely in a peak design 5L sling along with a small flash, power bank and some small stuff.
yeah I agree I should have turned on the frame lines.
Thanks Tony! The lack of aperture rings is a deal killer for me. Can't imagine what Sigma is thinking when Fujifilm is known for their analog/tactile controls.
Seems like it should have been a no-brainer, especially when other Sigma lenses have them. Sigma didn't do their homework for their intended market.
Depends, on a H or S line it is less of an issue, more on one of the retro bodies.
These Sigma lenses have been around for years, they were not designed with Fuji users in mind because they were not designed for Fuji in the first place. Sigma's LATER lenses have aperture rings, but not ones that were released around the same time as these. I think I'll take a far lower price with far superior optics over an aperture ring any day.
I know what I'm thinking: the Sigma 56mm is a better portrait lens than the Fuji 56mm. Sharper, better AF, les CA... Agreed it's not as nice to feel/behold, but shooting professionally I don't care. Just had the Fuji 56 out on a job yesterday and was just as annoyed as always at how poorly it focuses in low light, tracking/CAF basically not usable, etc. Between that and the low contrast images anywhere below F2, it's just a letdown, and Fuji should be ashamed that they're **still** selling it for $1000 USD to this day.
For zoom telephoto and the 35mm if I had a Fuji camera I would still choose fujifilm lenses. For the 16mm and the 56mm i think Sigma lenses are equally good for even professional shots.
It's great to have more options for lenses as a Fuji user. I do miss the aperture ring, though not a total deal breaker. But my 85mm for my Sony does have it. Maybe if these sell well and the demand stays, maybe Sigma will release updates in a few years with aperture rings.
Could you compare the F2/2.8 Fuji 16, 35, 50mm with the Sigma when you test the Autofocus?
Outstanding review! Direct A-B comparisons are the far most revealing way to judge image qualities. Well done.
I'm sold on that Sigma lens. No aperture ring, but I finally found a really good purpose for my X-T4's dial for the aperture.
I have a Fuji 16-80mm lense that I might want to sell since it's basically the same as my other 18-55mm kit lens.
Sigma should have included the 18-50mm f2.8. My predictions are Sigma will make 3 lenses and then walk away.
They announced it today on their website. Would have preferred if they started with that one but at least it is coming. The Fujicrons will suffer a lot from that but for the consumers it is a much needed addition, de 16-55 is far too clunky.
if sigma keep them coming can make a big impact in the fuji community. also it may improve the sale of the system.
Awesome test Tony! Thank you for the honest review, I am very surprised Sigma lenses performed better than the Fuji. I am very happy Sigma is finally making lenses for Fujifilm I hope they bring all their lenses with aperture rings in the future. The noisy and expensive Fujifilm fast primes have always been a hurdle for me. Upgrading to the XT4 with this trio of Sigma fast prime lenses is now a viable option.
I’ve been shooting for 30 years. Maybe it was my sample but my Fuji 35mm f1.4 was the sharpest lens I’ve ever had, even sharper than my Canon 70-200 F4 which was reputedly one of the sharpest lenses ever made.
Dear Tony, I ve been watching you with great respect for quite sone time. I myself am a youtuber Based in Turkey reviewing mainly fujifilm gears. This video is simply perfect. I intend to make an announcement video about the these new sigma lenses. We will probably not be able to get our hands on these lenses for a few months in Turkey. So rather to only talk about these lenses on a few pictıres I would like to ask for your permision to mention your names as a reference review video and add very little parts of your footage into my content. I would understand if you say no andrespect your wish. However I would greatly appreciate your aproval and be greateful and God knows maybe host you and Chelsea in Turkey.
Sell my Fujifilm lenses and buy the Sigma? No thanks.
The differences are so negligible and I've never used the 56 1.2 or the 16 1.4 and had even one complaint about sharpness and I always shoot wide open.
Thanks for the comparison but the Fuji lenses are excellent.
What I will buy from Sigma are the f1.8 zooms and maybe a 70mm f1.2 (if they eventually did that)
Really weird that they didn't put an aperture ring on these when the FE mount versions have one.
Probably much cheaper to just switch the mount and flash a different firmware than change the design of the lens to accommodate an aperture ring. They are older lenses that have been available for a while for other mounts after all.
Glad that these are finally available.
Interesting but I’m not understanding why you chose to compare older technology to newer technology? How would the Sigma lens compare with Fuji’s newer generation of these lens? And will the Sigma lens perform well on the upcoming generation of Fuji cameras (with higher no sensors)?
Excellent video 😮!
I'd also like to see the viltrox 13mm f1.4 vs sigma 16mm f1.4 comparison.
especially for selfie and vlogging purposes.
Good presentation! Thank you Tony, I just got a new item in my To buy list 😁
Damn you really know how to down grade lenses and the Fuji xt4 ! Saying it’s more a hobby camera etc . I love the camera and it’s as good as the canon and Sony.
Great to know sigma is sponsoring this video 😉
no cover or lens on cameras is driving me crazy. It is why Tony has so much sensor dust
These lenses are also available for Sony e-moint and I think they compete better there where the Sony native options don't have clicking aperture and focus rings. Either way though, they have great performance for the price and you can often find them heavily discounted around the holidays and at random other times.
How neat! Thanks for the comparisons!
Great review! I will likely pick up the 56mm Sigma. Thanks for confirming the skin tones on some Fuji lenses are not great. I shot Canon and Fuji and I just find the Canon skin tones are just more pleasing. Shooting Fuji just makes me appreciate Canon more. Fuji is an fun system to shoot with I just would not use it professionally.
Yeah awesome that Sigma is joining with quality lenses. Those fuji lenses are of course way older than the sigmas. But still very impresses. About the Viltrox. The 85mm 1.8 is still one of my favorite (portrait) lenses. The 23mm is also pretty nice but less contrasty than the fujis. And the fringing full open is a thing for Viltrox.
Hello T&C. Maybe I am mistaken, but did you say there would be a follow-up test showing the autofocus capability of these lenses? I looked but didn't see a follow-up video? You could just tell me, maybe on the X-H2S? :)
Hi
Did you test the old Fuji 1.4 or the newest WR variant ?
Can you answer me a question dear Tony & Chelsea Northrup? Is it true that fujifilm files have certain problems of compatibility when editing in Lightroom and Photoshop? Thanks.
I would love to see a sigma 56mm Vs viltrox 56mm vs Fuji 56mm
Happy owner of 30mm and 16mm for Sony here. Fantastic lenses
I just watched two other comparisons between the Fuji 56 1.2 and the Sigma 1.4 and both showed the Fuji to be superior. Now, according to your test the Fuji's don't come close to the Sigma. Somethings not right.
"You can give used gear new life"
*in the arms of an angel*
Regarding these lenses. I think lack of an aperture ring is fine for the 30 and 56, because 90% of the time I'll shoot wide open anyway.
For vlogging on the Xs10 which lens would you recommend.
Fuji has the better user experience and good photos and the Sigma has the better photo quality. Darn, no clear winner for me as I want it all.
Depends if you define user experience as only the aperture ring and construction.
Hey thanks for testing! Interesting to see how they stack up. But good to see that the colors look quite similar, so the lenses can be used together. Really hoping on a successor the their famous 18-35 lens. If they could make that weather sealed, with an aperture ring and preferibly a bit wider. 16mm please? And sharp enough for the X-h2. Then I would be really happy.
I like the image quality of these three lenses, but the lack of an aperture ring makes them not very practical. It would mean changing the function of the control ring when changing lenses....
Dang. Impressive Sigma X Mount. It’s gonna kill Viltrox lol
Viltrox, tokina even fujifilm lenses are dead now.
No, Viltrox is good for most photography and will be cheaper in the future.
Tony, help me here. When you mention Sigma struggling more for auto focus, does that include newer Sigmas for Sony, since Sony opens its engineering and no reverse-engineering is needed anymore? Im planning to buy a couple Sigmas for A7iv and your answer might be decisive for my purchase. Cheers.
It very much depends on the specific lens and camera, but yeah, generally we've had serious problems with various Sigma lenses autofocusing on Sony cameras. Check our channel for reviews of whichever lens you're considering.
@@TonyAndChelsea thanks a lot. My biggest indecision is on 24-70 2.8 GM vs the Sigma Art. Both Chris Niccols and Jared were more direct towards getting a Sigma for half the price. Being a great admirer of your work, what would you recommend me? Im a hobbyist that wants good quality.
If image quality is important to you, Sigma is a no brainer.
Can anyone explain why he videoed the view through the viewfinder? I believe it's a rangefinder and the view would be identical regardless of what lens is mounted. Or am I showing my ignorance?
Good com,parison test, i got a lot from this Tony keep them coming
This Sigma lineup is just amazing
I like the tactile aperture ring, too, (maybe it's because that's how we grew up shooting..) But, it's totally unnecessary, in practice. I feel like a 1.4 lens is usually shot somewhere around, oh 1.4? Maybe it's sharper at f2, so fine, f2. With one command dial set to adjust A, you set it to f1.4, and carry on... If you want that bokeh, but there's too much light, I would bump the shutter speed anyway.
I think the all of the complaints about the PASM dial on the new xH2(s) is along the lines of the moaning about the aperture rings. I get it, my xH2s doesn't L@@K as cool as my X-T3- but I don't have only 3 or 4 stops worth of shutter speed at the command wheel before needing to turn a dial.. I have all of them. Brings me back to my D700 days.
Aesthetically less pleasant? Sure. Functionally inadequate? NO.
The sigma 30 should be compared ot the fuji 33 1.4 to my opinion. Of course I expect the new sigma to be better than the older fuji 35mm.
It will be interesting to see how they compare to fuji prices, colors and auto focus. Especially compared to the viltrox lenses and the new 1.4 remakes by fuji.
Polycamerous… ahh, if only… having one camera is expensive enough…
These Sigma lenses are fascinating, on Canon their Art lenses are fabulous. I was hoping for the 18-35mm, it’s several primes in one. I’m disappointed by the no aperture ring part, I guess it means less re-engineering, just chuck on a different mount and put in the right firmware.
It's not fair to compare the sigma 30mm to the old 35mm fuji instead of the new fuji 33mm
What’s not fair? Price wise they are much more similar.
@@mattdebyl8806 comparing all 3 lenses would be the best thing...
I'd also like to see a comparison against the newer Fuji glass, but I chose the closest lenses based on function and price. The Sigma lenses are quite a bit cheaper, so I assumed buyers would only consider them if they had a tight budget. I didn't expect the Sigma lenses to be so much better optically.
Sigma 18-50 f2.8 X series coming in December. At the same time Sigma should have the 50-150 f2.8.
what tripod was that you just clicked your camera into... I need to get one.
Sigma announced that the 18-50mm 2.8 will also get a X mount version. That will be huge. Fuji failed to create more small and light lenses, lenses like the 16-55 2.8 and some of their primes are far too big for a system that's more in the compact niche.
The compact niche is olympus maybe, now fujifilm is trying to get a more professional market, with uncompromised quality glass, as seen with the new 23 and 33mm. I like this route, maybe they’re going to be on par with the others big brands but going all in on the apsc size (translating in more affordable glas in exchange of some blur)
@@Jacopo599 Imo the amateur = small, cheap, bad vs pro = big, heavy, good is a split Fuji should leave to Canon and Nikon.
Fujis look inoffensive and unthreatening which imo is big advantage when working with people or in an urban setting, having a canon barrel as a lens completely negates that. I'm also not saying there shouldn't be big lenses, but just don't forget the compact shooter, good but still compact lenses like the early primes f.e. XF 35mm 1.4 or XF 56 1.2 is something not many systems have.
@@Jacopo599 I would say the Fujifilm new lenses higher sharpness is for upcoming higher resolution sensors, regardless of professional use or not. Whether we need more pixels or not, Fujifilm has to maintain competitiveness and relevancy with sensor specs, also including 8k video. (Personally, I don't feel I need 8K video, and I don't print at all, but I do like zooming in when computer viewing, and cropping is of course useful.)
@@murmor6890 I think that fujifilm has dona a good job in the compact market, but they need to be more invested in the pro market and squeeze the benefits of the apsc sensor: faster readout speed and fps and faster equivalent lenses, in particular they need to do some 1.8 pro zoom and it would be fantastic for pros. Think about it, the same amount of zoom and blur of a 24-70, with the same dimension but with a full stop of light aded, that's the unseen pro of an apsc sensor: have the possibility to get the same qualities of a ff sensor with faster lenses. But at the moment only tamron and sigma has thought about it. It's an interchangeable lens sistem, let me choose between super-pro and big or small and light, i want to have a choice!
@@Paul_Rohde fujifilm is obviusly preparing some big sensor (maybe in collaboration with panasonic if you see some rumors...) but I personally need a big processor-autofocus update for the fuji system, it's the only thing left to do, after that it will be a no-brainer for many photographers and videomakers, maybe with a serious tracking function, it would smash the mid price market of canon and sony. Because at the moment fujifilm is the best price-to-performance on the market, you can tell it just by looking at the lens prices, they're good and half the price of an equivalent canon/sony lens
Dammit! I don't want to have to choose between Fuji clicky feelgoodness and technical performance 😢
Right there with ya
Thank god they came out with something! I've been extremely dissatisfied with my viltrox lens and wanted to go for the native fuji lens...but couldn't justify the price. After seeing this review its an absolute no brainer to go for the Sigma lens! Thanks for saving me money haha!
Im still waiting for viltrox 13mm 1.4.
Few more months :D
Tony the viltrox with the gold letters are the older lens.The newer viltrox lenses have white letters with software the update are much sharper.Retrial please.
thanks for the comparisonm. Id like to know how is the coma of sigma 16mm f1.4, thanks
very good comparison. the Viltrox 56 might be also an option to compare.
Hi Tony, would you consider doing a review on the Sony digital filter app? I can't find much useful information on the web and wonder if a digital filter is a good alternative to a graduated ND filter..
Interesting that you like the aperture dial so much. I recently got a cheap new lens from TTArtistian and it had an aperture dial. I found it really cool but I hated using it.
Viltrox is awful with purple fringing. except the 85mm, which is just acceptable.
So refreshing to hear a review that doesn't go through contortions to avoid calling a spade a spade. 👍
Without aperture ring on xpro do the sigmas just default to auto or is there extra setup?
How do the sigma lenses compare to Fuji 16-55mm?
oh WAY better.
@@TonyAndChelsea Really? Guess the red badge doesn't mean much anymore.
When can we see this lenses fo the Z-mount?
These are the lenses that kept the Sony aps c line alive!
And good to see you back on good terms with Sigma.
A certain RUclipsr may explode with anger after watching this video 😂.
Didn't Fujifilm just update all of these lenses (18mm 1.4 WR, 33mm 1.4 WR, and 50mm 1.0)? I understand that they continue to sell this set of lenses but it really doesn't come as any surprise that the Sigmas come out ahead of literally the oldest lenses in Fuji's lineup that have already been replaced. Maybe in the follow up include the newer lenses? Or a separate review dedicated to that newer set. I have the 23mm f2 and the 50f2 and have been tempted by those newer lenses which I'm sure will compete better with the Sigma lenses
Price
So the Sigma's are cheaper and better than the old Fuji that are more expensive, so it would only be fair to compare them to the EVEN MORE expensive new Fuji lenses? Please explain the logic.
We are waiting for 18-50 f2,8!!!😇😍👍
hi Tony , on the video at 0:36 where did you buy those magnify with light . thx
Just sold me on the sigma. I’m going to miss the aperture dials on the lens though.
It looks less like the sigma is a third stop brighter and more like it captures more shadow detail.
@Tony Northrup, at 13"34"' you are comparing the Fuji to the Fuji (not to the Sigma)...
No aperture ring , no sale for me :(
ihow is the manual focusing for video between the two ? (you did mention the fuji lenses have a focus clutch?)
Tony test with the stars is totally fault, firstly you have too much shift due to too long exposure, secondly the test should have a coma test at the edges of the image.
This part of the vid was tough to watch. 30 seconds and iso 160 are not what I would of used. The Astro community will be up in arms.
"The bokeh on the Viltrox is bad and, should be ashamed of itself." Ha! That made me laugh. Thanks for that!
Wait what? What's the point of those view finders? How does one know what's in the camera's frame, since it's not even over the lens, but worse, offset to the side?
Haha yeah these are valid complaints about the rangefinder design but it has benefits, too. I should make a video.