As an owner of both I tell you that on the video side I always choose the Sigma, for lightness and quality it is perfect. in my case the viltrox is the perfect lens for night sports photography. They are two excellent products but the lightness of Sigma has its reason in APSC bodies. the viltrox has a more full frame weight
Really appreciate you doing this. Was immensely in deciding between these two. Ended up going with 56 because the 75 just wasn't practical to get that far away from my purposes, but it looks like a great lens. Now I'm super excited for when Viltrox releases their 27 for Sony E
Thank you Arthur, your pictures are beautiful. I have trio sigma for my a6600/6400 and i bought the viltrox too for weddings, portraits and night street photography (to be more far away) I recieve it tomorrow ! Let's see the beast. But for me, it's a very good value for this lens. Thank you for your APSC videos, because thanks to you I'm paid to do PRO work with APSC cam, because i have GOOD lens. little talent too 😋) and no all the time necessary to have full frame to success ☺
omg, i was this moment trying to decide between this two. actually i found a discount and the vitrolx is the same price here in brazil than the sigma. and i was thinking, hopefully arthur will do a review today, and now you did! thanks a lot
This is wild timing. I was just trying to decide which of these two lenses to pick up. Your videos always help tip me one way or another. Thanks for sharing!
@@raraconstantino I went with the Sigma due to the size. I find that the smaller my camera setup is the more I actually bring it out with me. If I was doing paid gigs I think I would have went with the Viltrox. No regrets at all on the Sigma. It’s amazingly sharp and a fun focal length.
@@vex3174 I think the 56mm is better for most wedding venues since it gives you a more versatile focal length. If you shoot a lot of outdoor venues though then the Viltrox would be a better choice.
❤ I would to see that but I doubt they wont do it. They already have great line up. I would love to see them to revise their 50 100 f1.8 zoom. Make it smaller and lighter, lower the focus breathing. That would be my dream lens.
Viltrox are bringing out an f1.2 lens that sits between the 27mm f1.2 and the 75mm f1.2 (google their roadmap), so that will likely be around the 56mm focal length. Bye bye Sigma f1.4.
Viltrox 75mm is really tempting, but sigma 56mm portability is so cool, this lens is so tiny and sharp, probably will stay with sigma. Wonder how much smaller viltrox could be if it was 1.4 instead of 1.2
Great review! I didn't think anything could measure up to the sigma, it's my gold standard, so this review is really helpful and the results surprising :)
I agree with all you had to say . The longer the telephoto the bigger the separation. Price and size are also points that will favour the Sigma. For my money I would choose the Sigma and get it in MFT Mount to achieve a similar look to the 75mm. You do fantastic videos and I would just like to say thanks once again on a fantastic review .
The sigma 56mm f1.4 on MFT is equivalent to 112mm f2.8 on Full Frame. While the Viltrox 75mm f1.2 on APS-C is equivalent to 112mm f1.8. The angle of view will be similar but the Bokeh difference will be Night and Day.
Well, most of the photos was taken from the same distance, so difference in bokeh is more visible. I compared both lenses as well. If you get closer with 56mm (to achieve the same composition as with Viltrox) the smootheness of the background looks more similar. The main difference is that on 75mm background is a bit larger (so we see less background details and can focus more on model). Viltrox + for portraits that you care about the model and you want to have plain/less distracting background it is a bit nicer (Especially for closeup views) + autofocus works pretty fast to my no problem with it - It is pretty sharp but in my case side by side comparison sigma was sharper on every photo I took - focus distance is around 80-100cm which is not great if you wanna do photos of a product etc. Sigma + Very sharp, each photo I zoom in is razor sharp +/- Background appears a bit smaller (because of the wider angle), bokeh rings were maybe 15% smaller but there were more of them which can be even more interesting in some cases - for the street photography, but if you shoot face, closed up portrait it might be a bit more distracting. + Size and weight is very compact and match well with APSC + 0.5m focus distance Viltrox gives a bit more washed/less contrast background that makes the model stands out a bit more, which I really like. Probably by using 100mm this effect would be even stronger, bokeh rings bigger but actually hard to tell is it mean better. For portraits its amazing, but its not enough to call it better overall. I find Sigma alot more versatile. You can shot amazing portraits as well, Its easier to shoot inside the building. You can put it to the pocket of your jacket and shoot with it everyday. Its warks better if you want to do a photos of a product. I will keep shooting with both lenses and decide which one to sell (based more on is it convenient to shoot with 56mm or 75mm) but it will be Viltrox probably.
After a while I think both are worth keeping, both are amazing. I think I will shoot with Viltrox for planned sessions and use Sigma when wanna go light.
I think at this point it's really nitpicking as both are superb lenses. I prefer the sigma for the following reasons: 1) Shorter minimum focusing distance. 2) Better autofocus performance 3) A fraction of the size of the Viltrox For me, the slightly "better bokeh", which of course is subjective, and better colour rendition aren't worth compromising on the above 3 factors. Great review btw Arthur, have been a fan since 2016. Keep 'em coming!
these lenses are so cooooool:] Thanks for the video! But what are the top lenses you would recommend now? Maybe you could have an updated top 10 lenses in your collection:]
As someone that frequently practices street and documentary style photography, compact sized gear and a small bag is high on my list of priorities. I usually only run with the Fuji 23mm f1.4 (35 equiv) and a speed boosted Nikon 85 f1.8 G, and sometimes I bring the Nikon 24 mm just in case I need something a little wider. I've been looking at the sigma 56 for its small size and excellent image quality, but this Viltrox although quite a bit larger is looking very tempting for the portrait lens.
Thanks Arthur for this comparison. I recently switched from Sony 7-IV to the Fuji X-H2 and picked only non-Fuji-lenses for the initial start. I will recieve my Fuji-mount copy this week and I already own the 56 and will definitely do my own comparison, especially because I also have the all new 27/1.2 coming in the same package 😅 - holy trinity. Keep you posted
@@PatrickWithCamera actually not - I ended up with more glass than before. The journey continued and now I own the new X-100VI and a Lumix S5-II with just 4 lenses and this actually is very powerful.
The Viltrox is very impressive. I'm wondering if the new AI chip on the A6700 would cure the missed focus on the 75mm, or if it's just a slight weakness in that lens. Doesn't look like it's anything major that can't be corrected in post.
The 56mm f/1.4 is probably the best lens made the last 10 yrs as it performs extremely well on all systems. Viltrox 75mm looks great but is also higher priced. I guess it depends which Focal length you prefer. Btw is there no fringing on the viltrox? The viltrox 56mm suffered from it badly
$550 is a great value. I have this lens with a X-H2, I also shoot a R6/Sigma 105. I use the R6 for “traditional” portraits and the X-H2 for more vintage/artistic look. I shoot both on my HS Sr shoots and so far my clients are picking more Fuji shots. The XH2/75 combo is amazing. I will be getting the 27mm, I spoke to a rep at Viltrox and begged for a 50mm 1.2 PRO as well for a nice trio.
They both seem to have advantages, for me it would be to use the Voltrox primarily, with the Sigma as a backup when I want more of the background in the shot.
Great comparison Arthur (thanks)! I have the Sigma 56mm 1.4 right now and have been eyeing the Viltrox 75mm 1.2 but... I'd be curious to see how an 85mm 1.4 or 1.8 performs against these two in an ultimate portrait lens test on APSC. Hope you and the family have a good up coming week. Cheers from Canada 🍁 Brett
I’ve used several 85mm lenses on my aps-c camera. The Sony FE 85mm f1.8 is not that different compared to the Sigma 56mm (slightly shallower DOF but not as sharp) The FE also doesn’t resolve as good on a 24mp aps-c body (CA, LoCA, and flaring is more prominent compared to a FF body) The Sigma 85mm f1.4 however, is an absolute beast on aps-c (if you can live with the bulk & heft)
@@saifaldin_ But all the 85ers are for FF, so naturally bigger in size. Maybe Sigma could add a 85mm specifically for APS-C to their contemporary line-up that's smaller¿ One can hope :)
I'm not fully understanding the appeal of a 75mm in the crop sensor world.. I always thought 85mm was the undisputed best focal length in Full Frame? I had a 85mm on my Full Frame DSLR and even then I was struggling to back up with enough space to take portraits especially indoors. Wouldn't 75mm push it out to more like 115mm? That means you would have to back up even further from your subject to get the frame
Yes, it would be 112,5mm and it will be difficult indoors to use, even 56m is difficult, for in doors I would pick simga 23mm or sigma 30mm, much easier. 75mm Viltrox would be great for weddings where you can't be too close most of the time and also outdoor sessions.
Both are sharp but I still choose to use the Sony 90 f2.8 for portraits but if needed for some reason I still love the Sony e 50 1.8. But both lens looks great
I found that the FE 90mm macro too sharp for portraits (you can see every pore and hair on the skin) The E 50mm f1.8 renders good. Only problem was that it was slow to focus in low light conditions - but that might not be an issue on newer bodies (I used it on an A6000)
@@saifaldin_ Being honest I haven't noticed the slow autofocus on the 50 f/1.8 oss. But it could just been because I've been using it for so long. User of a 6400 & 6700. But I know the 90 is so sharp I love it lol
@@HagaishiSama I shot with the 50mm f1.8 for about 2 years on my A6000; and i used to use it a lot back then as it was my only prime lens. Like I said, the slow focusing might have to do more with the camera instead of the lens (since the focus is very reliable in good light)
@@saifaldin_ i got sony 90mm and sigma 56mm, didn't see much difference in sharpness, on both u can see every pore and hair on the skin, at F/2.8 I would say sigma is even sharper than sony, sony peak resolution is at F/5.6
Cannot still decide whether the size, tighter focal range & bulk of viltrox is worth it over the reliable, compact & regular 85mm focal range of sigma. Any thoughts?
@@erik6678 if viltrox could make a non pro 75mm f1.4 lens which is much more compact then that would be wonderful. Atleast the size and compactness would be on par with sigma.
Love it! Thanks for this! Although, I’m struggling to justify the size to performance gain on this one vs full frame. I’d be interested to see how your A7c sits in the comparison with the Samyang 85 1.4 especially framing somewhat equally like you did. Cause that FF rig would be lighter than your 75 1.2 set up and not far off of price difference.
Thank you for the video. Have to ask which firmware version did you have on the Viltrox? I just checked and looks like there is a 1.0.1 or even a 1.0.2 version now available or will be soon looking at the Fujifilm XF version. Can you tell us what version of firmware you had please. I currently have both and will be comparing them on the new A6700. By the way what firmware version are you using on your copy?
Samyang 75 1.8 seems to be missing from this fight. Oh, it will also cover full frame. I'd love to see Sigma through down a 70 1.4. It'd be smaller lighter than the Viltrox & we'd finally have a proper 105 equivalent
Indeed, sigma trio makes sony aps-c so attractive, especially sigma 56mm, for its size and weight is surprisingly great optically. Without sigma sony aps-c probably would be a lot less popular, for sure I wouldn't be in sony e system.
Be aware that on a bright sunny day F1.2 and F1.4 simply let in too much light even for the maximum mechanical shutter speed of 1/4000 with ISO 100 on Sony APS-C. The a6700 electronic shutter can go up to 1/8000 or you can use a (variable) ND filter to mitigate this.
Good comparison! Wanted to know if there are any updates on af performance after firmware update 1.0.4 in Nov 23 as people say that it was not reliable for fast moving subjects like birds, running pets, children, etc in the very first firmware? I am in the market for buying one. I currently have sigma 18-50 f2.8 for my a6700, looking to have a prime now-- confused between sigma 56 f1.4 and the this viltrox 75. Performance wise 56 seems to be reliable. Wether sealing, image quality wise viltrox seems better. Also this will add a bigger focal length for my use.
I was gonna originally get the 56 1.4 because I wasn't interested in paying $1k or so for the new 56 1.2. But then I stumbled across the 75 1.2 by chance and it's been a gem in my bag. For portraits I want the best look to compliment the person I am photographing. And in that department the 56mm focal length in general doesn't compete in that regard.
Hahaha yeah the humidity in Florida really sucks for photography. If the lenses are just a little bit cooler than the outside air they will fog up. I end up using the heater in my car to warm them up. It is very frustrating. It really makes getting quick shots on the side of the road impossible.
The Viltrox is sounding great buuuuuuuut it's worrying it's missing focus so often.. it would be really annoying to find out afterwards like 1 in 5 of my shots are ok but not great just because it didn't focus quite right :/
wow, i was actually debating between the two of this.. i was leaning toward sigma because of the portability and quality at the same time but Viltrox compression and quality is pulling me over... im so confused.
I had both and recently sold Viltrox, don't get confused Viltrox is more sharp lens but Sigma has better autofocus , portability also in sharpness Sigma is 90 % as good as Viltrox. Not just that 85 mm ( 56 ) Focal length will be used mostly in day to day photography.
On an xt5, I find viltrox to be quite a lot sharper than the sigma. When it nails the focus that is. I don't think I have seen a sharper lens personally than the viltrox
I'm still undecided on which to get for my Nikon Z6. The Viltrox 75mm f1.2 or the upcoming Viltrox 16mm f1.8 I already own the Viltrox 85mm f1.8 and Viltrox 13mm f1.4 for Nikon Z. Both the 75mm (APSC) and 16mm (FF) are priced almost the same.
Impressive Viltrox! Personally speaking, this has no chance against the package the Sigma 56mm delivers. But I hope Sigma takes on the "long and bright" challenge and brings a 90mm f1.4 DC DN 😃
I would've loved to see a 90mm f2, or a 105mm f2. Its missing and would really help round off the f2 i-series. I have the 105mm f1.4 and its huge, I love it but hate the bulk. I love the 65mm f2 though,its my favourite and the 35mm f1.2 and the 35mm f2, so I know what bulky and compact is like. Compact is always more fun to work or play with. As nice as f1.4 is, it becomes less fun.
@@simonfuller76 I'm with you regarding the compact size. That's why the Sigma 56mm f1.4 is my favourite lens. TBH I have no Idea how big a 90mm f1.4 for APS-C would actually be.
It's much better but the problem still persists. There's not as much focus breathing if any, but the autofocus, although improved, still doesn't perform perfectly. Many of my shots taken with that lens has been out of focus, or focused on a weird spot.
can you give me some original photos taken with viltro 75mm f1.2 lens with sony e-mount? I'm planning to buy this lens for sony a6400 but don't know how sharp its original image is
Awesome, thanks for this! May be a dumb question, but- these lenses that are "made for APSC," does that mean they are true to the mm measure? or is this 75mm on an APSC still going to show up as 112mm? Do we still have to do that math adjustment?
i have 2 friend own the 75mmm on fuji. both of them mention that at f1.2 the AF hunting is serious and terrible. only at f1.4 the af is almost perfect. however the 56mm has been great since beginning on sony and on fuji it has no issue at all.
The scenarios were fairly simple on the missed focus shots. Did the screen show u eye AF is correct but the actual shot had missed focus? Then viltrox is unrwliable 😢
The size is negligible for me, once the camera/lens is in your hand, who really cares? Otherwise it will go in a bag. Get the best image quality lens, and its the Viltrox between these two. Plus the bokeh is more buttery on the Viltrox. The Sigma will always be legendary though but objectively the Viltrox is better.
Hi from the Philippines, kamusta? What can you say about Sigma 18-50mm to A6700? I will use it for cinematic videos and a little photography, thanks in advance. =)
I love how compact sigma is, it will be an amazing travel and street lens, but i also have a sigma zoom which is so good that i dont find a reason to buy it.
Hi new to your channel. Was wondering for portraits if i would notice a difference in sharpness between the sigma 56 vs the 18-50 2.8 ? I am aware of the aperture difference but my main concern would be center sharpness. I am really happy with the 18-50 but just wondering if the sigma prime would be worth purchasing. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much ✌️
As an owner of both I tell you that on the video side I always choose the Sigma, for lightness and quality it is perfect. in my case the viltrox is the perfect lens for night sports photography. They are two excellent products but the lightness of Sigma has its reason in APSC bodies. the viltrox has a more full frame weight
Thank you for not forgetting about the APSC and making very interesting comparisons!
The comparison we've been waiting for! Thanks Arthur.
Thank you for doing this comparison. Keep up the great work
Really appreciate you doing this. Was immensely in deciding between these two. Ended up going with 56 because the 75 just wasn't practical to get that far away from my purposes, but it looks like a great lens.
Now I'm super excited for when Viltrox releases their 27 for Sony E
Thank you Arthur, your pictures are beautiful.
I have trio sigma for my a6600/6400 and i bought the viltrox too for weddings, portraits and night street photography (to be more far away) I recieve it tomorrow ! Let's see the beast.
But for me, it's a very good value for this lens. Thank you for your APSC videos, because thanks to you I'm paid to do PRO work with APSC cam, because i have GOOD lens. little talent too 😋) and no all the time necessary to have full frame to success ☺
omg, i was this moment trying to decide between this two. actually i found a discount and the vitrolx is the same price here in brazil than the sigma. and i was thinking, hopefully arthur will do a review today, and now you did! thanks a lot
Hey man, qual pegou brother?
@@samuelmercadante 75
@@WillyMouna To querendo pegar as duas, mas ainda não achei nenhum lugar daora vendendo aqui no Brasil
The benefits of size cannot be overlooked.
This is wild timing. I was just trying to decide which of these two lenses to pick up. Your videos always help tip me one way or another. Thanks for sharing!
What did you end up getting? I have the same problem now. 😅
@@raraconstantino I went with the Sigma due to the size. I find that the smaller my camera setup is the more I actually bring it out with me. If I was doing paid gigs I think I would have went with the Viltrox. No regrets at all on the Sigma. It’s amazingly sharp and a fun focal length.
@@raraconstantino I'm going with viltrox 75
@@JoshSherrill I plan to photograph weddings, which one should I take?
@@vex3174 I think the 56mm is better for most wedding venues since it gives you a more versatile focal length. If you shoot a lot of outdoor venues though then the Viltrox would be a better choice.
As a video focused shopter I just got the 56mm f1.4. I think I made the right choice.
Hello Arthur! Could you please give an update about any focusing improvement of viltrox 75 after latest software update??
I love my sigma 56mm, but the viltrox came in so close on this one. keep it up man 🙌🔥
Thank you and thank Janessa! A useful comparison.
If sigma makes a 75mm oh man..
I’d argue they should make a 90mm to match the 135mm field of view on a full frame camera.
I mean this would be ultimate ❤️😍
@@DanPandrea or buy the Sony fe 85mm 1.8 ;) its great on the aps c body - much lighter than the viltrox and has a very fast autofocus
❤ I would to see that but I doubt they wont do it. They already have great line up.
I would love to see them to revise their 50 100 f1.8 zoom. Make it smaller and lighter, lower the focus breathing. That would be my dream lens.
Viltrox are bringing out an f1.2 lens that sits between the 27mm f1.2 and the 75mm f1.2 (google their roadmap), so that will likely be around the 56mm focal length. Bye bye Sigma f1.4.
Viltrox 75mm is really tempting, but sigma 56mm portability is so cool, this lens is so tiny and sharp, probably will stay with sigma.
Wonder how much smaller viltrox could be if it was 1.4 instead of 1.2
I have the three sigma apsc lens for some time now due to your videos, best lens for my budget.
Amazing comparison
Love this type of no bullshit no useless rants review
Pure optics
Subscribed!
Favorite Reviewer So Far
You always have good compare content 👍
Great review! I didn't think anything could measure up to the sigma, it's my gold standard, so this review is really helpful and the results surprising :)
Firssstt! Been waiting for this, thank you Arthur! 👊
I agree with all you had to say . The longer the telephoto the bigger the separation. Price and size are also points that will favour the Sigma. For my money I would choose the Sigma and get it in MFT Mount to achieve a similar look to the 75mm.
You do fantastic videos and I would just like to say thanks once again on a fantastic review .
The sigma 56mm f1.4 on MFT is equivalent to 112mm f2.8 on Full Frame. While the Viltrox 75mm f1.2 on APS-C is equivalent to 112mm f1.8. The angle of view will be similar but the Bokeh difference will be Night and Day.
@@Dylon1981 exactly
Well, most of the photos was taken from the same distance, so difference in bokeh is more visible. I compared both lenses as well. If you get closer with 56mm (to achieve the same composition as with Viltrox) the smootheness of the background looks more similar. The main difference is that on 75mm background is a bit larger (so we see less background details and can focus more on model).
Viltrox
+ for portraits that you care about the model and you want to have plain/less distracting background it is a bit nicer (Especially for closeup views)
+ autofocus works pretty fast to my no problem with it
- It is pretty sharp but in my case side by side comparison sigma was sharper on every photo I took
- focus distance is around 80-100cm which is not great if you wanna do photos of a product etc.
Sigma
+ Very sharp, each photo I zoom in is razor sharp
+/- Background appears a bit smaller (because of the wider angle), bokeh rings were maybe 15% smaller but there were more of them which can be even more interesting in some cases - for the street photography, but if you shoot face, closed up portrait it might be a bit more distracting.
+ Size and weight is very compact and match well with APSC
+ 0.5m focus distance
Viltrox gives a bit more washed/less contrast background that makes the model stands out a bit more, which I really like. Probably by using 100mm this effect would be even stronger, bokeh rings bigger but actually hard to tell is it mean better. For portraits its amazing, but its not enough to call it better overall. I find Sigma alot more versatile.
You can shot amazing portraits as well, Its easier to shoot inside the building. You can put it to the pocket of your jacket and shoot with it everyday. Its warks better if you want to do a photos of a product.
I will keep shooting with both lenses and decide which one to sell (based more on is it convenient to shoot with 56mm or 75mm) but it will be Viltrox probably.
After a while I think both are worth keeping, both are amazing. I think I will shoot with Viltrox for planned sessions and use Sigma when wanna go light.
es un video que esperaba bastante. excelente.
I liked your video before I watch it. I know this will be an awesome comparison.
56mm 1.4 🔥
Great review! Please do video performance comparison next. thx
I think at this point it's really nitpicking as both are superb lenses.
I prefer the sigma for the following reasons:
1) Shorter minimum focusing distance.
2) Better autofocus performance
3) A fraction of the size of the Viltrox
For me, the slightly "better bokeh", which of course is subjective, and better colour rendition aren't worth compromising on the above 3 factors.
Great review btw Arthur, have been a fan since 2016. Keep 'em coming!
i have the both lens , portrait used for viltrox 75mm , sigma 56 use in travel
😊 that's the best
these lenses are so cooooool:] Thanks for the video! But what are the top lenses you would recommend now? Maybe you could have an updated top 10 lenses in your collection:]
As someone that frequently practices street and documentary style photography, compact sized gear and a small bag is high on my list of priorities. I usually only run with the Fuji 23mm f1.4 (35 equiv) and a speed boosted Nikon 85 f1.8 G, and sometimes I bring the Nikon 24 mm just in case I need something a little wider. I've been looking at the sigma 56 for its small size and excellent image quality, but this Viltrox although quite a bit larger is looking very tempting for the portrait lens.
Thanks Arthur for this comparison. I recently switched from Sony 7-IV to the Fuji X-H2 and picked only non-Fuji-lenses for the initial start.
I will recieve my Fuji-mount copy this week and I already own the 56 and will definitely do my own comparison, especially because I also have the all new 27/1.2 coming in the same package 😅 - holy trinity. Keep you posted
Why the switch please?
Are you happy with that switch?
@@PatrickWithCamera actually not - I ended up with more glass than before. The journey continued and now I own the new X-100VI and a Lumix S5-II with just 4 lenses and this actually is very powerful.
The Viltrox is very impressive. I'm wondering if the new AI chip on the A6700 would cure the missed focus on the 75mm, or if it's just a slight weakness in that lens. Doesn't look like it's anything major that can't be corrected in post.
These were shot on the A6700, so the answer is no, unfortunately.
Thank you. Always love your reviews, really top-notch and on-point for anyone looking to purchase photo equipment!
Probably, could be address through a new firmware update on the 75mm?
The 56mm f/1.4 is probably the best lens made the last 10 yrs as it performs extremely well on all systems.
Viltrox 75mm looks great but is also higher priced.
I guess it depends which Focal length you prefer.
Btw is there no fringing on the viltrox? The viltrox 56mm suffered from it badly
$550 is a great value. I have this lens with a X-H2, I also shoot a R6/Sigma 105. I use the R6 for “traditional” portraits and the X-H2 for more vintage/artistic look. I shoot both on my HS Sr shoots and so far my clients are picking more Fuji shots. The XH2/75 combo is amazing. I will be getting the 27mm, I spoke to a rep at Viltrox and begged for a 50mm 1.2 PRO as well for a nice trio.
@@MichaelFrederickPhoto Please do Viltrox have 50 1.2 Pro for Fuji
No there is literally no CA. I have both and I prefer the look of Viltrox over 56mm.
They both seem to have advantages, for me it would be to use the Voltrox primarily, with the Sigma as a backup when I want more of the background in the shot.
Great comparison Arthur (thanks)! I have the Sigma 56mm 1.4 right now and have been eyeing the Viltrox 75mm 1.2 but... I'd be curious to see how an 85mm 1.4 or 1.8 performs against these two in an ultimate portrait lens test on APSC. Hope you and the family have a good up coming week. Cheers from Canada 🍁 Brett
I’ve used several 85mm lenses on my aps-c camera. The Sony FE 85mm f1.8 is not that different compared to the Sigma 56mm (slightly shallower DOF but not as sharp) The FE also doesn’t resolve as good on a 24mp aps-c body (CA, LoCA, and flaring is more prominent compared to a FF body)
The Sigma 85mm f1.4 however, is an absolute beast on aps-c (if you can live with the bulk & heft)
@@saifaldin_ But all the 85ers are for FF, so naturally bigger in size. Maybe Sigma could add a 85mm specifically for APS-C to their contemporary line-up that's smaller¿ One can hope :)
@@angelsjoker8190 Yes, they are.. I wouldn’t mind a sigma 85mm f1.4 specifically designed for aps-c.
The Viltrox has some special kind of magic going on. Shockingly good lens.
Hey great content as always 🤩Which one is good for video ? Autofocus? I own a xs20 !!! Upload more contents abt fuji cameras..cheers !
I'm not fully understanding the appeal of a 75mm in the crop sensor world.. I always thought 85mm was the undisputed best focal length in Full Frame? I had a 85mm on my Full Frame DSLR and even then I was struggling to back up with enough space to take portraits especially indoors. Wouldn't 75mm push it out to more like 115mm? That means you would have to back up even further from your subject to get the frame
Yes, it would be 112,5mm and it will be difficult indoors to use, even 56m is difficult, for in doors I would pick simga 23mm or sigma 30mm, much easier.
75mm Viltrox would be great for weddings where you can't be too close most of the time and also outdoor sessions.
Both are sharp but I still choose to use the Sony 90 f2.8 for portraits but if needed for some reason I still love the Sony e 50 1.8. But both lens looks great
I found that the FE 90mm macro too sharp for portraits (you can see every pore and hair on the skin)
The E 50mm f1.8 renders good. Only problem was that it was slow to focus in low light conditions - but that might not be an issue on newer bodies (I used it on an A6000)
@@saifaldin_ Being honest I haven't noticed the slow autofocus on the 50 f/1.8 oss. But it could just been because I've been using it for so long. User of a 6400 & 6700. But I know the 90 is so sharp I love it lol
@@HagaishiSama I shot with the 50mm f1.8 for about 2 years on my A6000; and i used to use it a lot back then as it was my only prime lens.
Like I said, the slow focusing might have to do more with the camera instead of the lens (since the focus is very reliable in good light)
@@saifaldin_ i got sony 90mm and sigma 56mm, didn't see much difference in sharpness, on both u can see every pore and hair on the skin, at F/2.8 I would say sigma is even sharper than sony, sony peak resolution is at F/5.6
Sony is a macro. Slow focusing
Cannot still decide whether the size, tighter focal range & bulk of viltrox is worth it over the reliable, compact & regular 85mm focal range of sigma. Any thoughts?
Same question here... still pending between these 2 Options
@@erik6678 if viltrox could make a non pro 75mm f1.4 lens which is much more compact then that would be wonderful. Atleast the size and compactness would be on par with sigma.
It's the real deal! I have it on my A6700 and it continues to astound me.
Love it! Thanks for this! Although, I’m struggling to justify the size to performance gain on this one vs full frame. I’d be interested to see how your A7c sits in the comparison with the Samyang 85 1.4 especially framing somewhat equally like you did. Cause that FF rig would be lighter than your 75 1.2 set up and not far off of price difference.
Awesome review ! How about sigma 105mm f1.4 full frame vs viltrox 75mm f1.2 apsc ( 112.5mm)
Thank you for the video. Have to ask which firmware version did you have on the Viltrox? I just checked and looks like there is a 1.0.1 or even a 1.0.2 version now available or will be soon looking at the Fujifilm XF version. Can you tell us what version of firmware you had please. I currently have both and will be comparing them on the new A6700. By the way what firmware version are you using on your copy?
I'll stick with the Sigma - Focus matters, and hopefully they will update the firmware to fix the focus issues on the Viltrox
After few updates from viltrox , hopefully misfocus might lower significantly, Thank you viltrox for this glass
apsc viltrox 75mm f1.2 vs full frame 85mm f1.4 or 135mm f1.8 please
I have both, sigma for traveling around, viltrox for more special moments
Samyang 75 1.8 seems to be missing from this fight. Oh, it will also cover full frame. I'd love to see Sigma through down a 70 1.4. It'd be smaller lighter than the Viltrox & we'd finally have a proper 105 equivalent
Yes!!!!!
I blindly go for Sigma just for those dimensions and weight without even watching this video.
Indeed, sigma trio makes sony aps-c so attractive, especially sigma 56mm, for its size and weight is surprisingly great optically.
Without sigma sony aps-c probably would be a lot less popular, for sure I wouldn't be in sony e system.
Be aware that on a bright sunny day F1.2 and F1.4 simply let in too much light even for the maximum mechanical shutter speed of 1/4000 with ISO 100 on Sony APS-C. The a6700 electronic shutter can go up to 1/8000 or you can use a (variable) ND filter to mitigate this.
Hi Arthur, did you update the Viltrox prior to test?
Not sure if I missed it, but which body did you use for this comparison? I’m curious
A6700!
@@ArthurR Good to know, thanks for all the great content!
Good comparison!
Wanted to know if there are any updates on af performance after firmware update 1.0.4 in Nov 23 as people say that it was not reliable for fast moving subjects like birds, running pets, children, etc in the very first firmware?
I am in the market for buying one.
I currently have sigma 18-50 f2.8 for my a6700, looking to have a prime now-- confused between sigma 56 f1.4 and the this viltrox 75.
Performance wise 56 seems to be reliable.
Wether sealing, image quality wise viltrox seems better. Also this will add a bigger focal length for my use.
I was gonna originally get the 56 1.4 because I wasn't interested in paying $1k or so for the new 56 1.2. But then I stumbled across the 75 1.2 by chance and it's been a gem in my bag. For portraits I want the best look to compliment the person I am photographing. And in that department the 56mm focal length in general doesn't compete in that regard.
I wonder if software update & the new hardware version (1.1) has changed the autofocus performance on Viltrox.
Did you edit the photos in this video or was it straight out of camera ?
Great review. The Viltrox is fantastic for the price.
Hahaha yeah the humidity in Florida really sucks for photography. If the lenses are just a little bit cooler than the outside air they will fog up. I end up using the heater in my car to warm them up. It is very frustrating. It really makes getting quick shots on the side of the road impossible.
The Viltrox is sounding great buuuuuuuut it's worrying it's missing focus so often.. it would be really annoying to find out afterwards like 1 in 5 of my shots are ok but not great just because it didn't focus quite right :/
wow, i was actually debating between the two of this.. i was leaning toward sigma because of the portability and quality at the same time but Viltrox compression and quality is pulling me over... im so confused.
I had both and recently sold Viltrox, don't get confused Viltrox is more sharp lens but Sigma has better autofocus , portability also in sharpness Sigma is 90 % as good as Viltrox. Not just that 85 mm ( 56 ) Focal length will be used mostly in day to day photography.
i ended up ordering the sigma instead. portability is just a major factor. @@neethuandthomasphotography
better colours on the viltrox. I've noticed the same difference when using Zeiss Batis vs other lenses on my a6400
Sigma, Viltrox or the Sony 85mm 1.8 for portraits? I shoot with an a6500 😊
Which camera do you use for these photos?
What are you thoughts on the Sony a6700? Such a awesome little camera 😊
He has a video
Which one would you make as an EDC?
On an xt5, I find viltrox to be quite a lot sharper than the sigma. When it nails the focus that is. I don't think I have seen a sharper lens personally than the viltrox
75mm does have nice focal length, but I like a bit more character in bokeh of Sigma, even flaring. Both are amazing.
Arthur R hi nice video I was looking for a portrait lens for APS-C but what camera did you use for the Viltrox 75mm 1.4 ??
Which camera body was used for this?
I'm still undecided on which to get for my Nikon Z6. The Viltrox 75mm f1.2 or the upcoming Viltrox 16mm f1.8
I already own the Viltrox 85mm f1.8 and Viltrox 13mm f1.4 for Nikon Z.
Both the 75mm (APSC) and 16mm (FF) are priced almost the same.
What would you say about taking video on the viltrox with a fuji x-t4? Not necessarily handheld, and not necessarily using autofocus.
I am curious what you think about the Viltrox 75mm vs Sony FE 85mm 1.8 on a crop camera.
Since this review has been published a year ago - has there been published at firmware-update for the viltrox which addresses the autofocus-issue?
I read from another review that 1.04 firmware corrected autofocus.
Have you had any AF-C issues with the Sigma and the a6700? My SY 45 1.8 hunts ASF and I've read that the Sigma behaves the same on it
What camera were you using?
Cheers! Compared to Samyang 75 1.8 could be interesting ...?😉
Now vs the Sony 85 1.8!
I just bought a sigma 56mm 1.4 because of your good reviews about this lens. Now here comes viltrox. 😢
How about the comparison to Sigma 105mm f/1.4
The difference is about 1,000$. You're welcome.
which camera u used? 6000?
i love the viltrox but has problems with auto focus a bit
Is the miss focus annoying?
Vs Native 85mm 1.8 E Mount which is better than Viltrox Pro?
Impressive Viltrox! Personally speaking, this has no chance against the package the Sigma 56mm delivers. But I hope Sigma takes on the "long and bright" challenge and brings a 90mm f1.4 DC DN 😃
I would've loved to see a 90mm f2, or a 105mm f2. Its missing and would really help round off the f2 i-series. I have the 105mm f1.4 and its huge, I love it but hate the bulk. I love the 65mm f2 though,its my favourite and the 35mm f1.2 and the 35mm f2, so I know what bulky and compact is like. Compact is always more fun to work or play with. As nice as f1.4 is, it becomes less fun.
@@simonfuller76 I'm with you regarding the compact size. That's why the Sigma 56mm f1.4 is my favourite lens. TBH I have no Idea how big a 90mm f1.4 for APS-C would actually be.
How is autofocus perfomance after the 1.04 software update in the December?
Anyone knows?
Is is on par with the sigma's 56 1.4?
viltrox is bad autofocus
It's much better but the problem still persists. There's not as much focus breathing if any, but the autofocus, although improved, still doesn't perform perfectly. Many of my shots taken with that lens has been out of focus, or focused on a weird spot.
@@ethanadams9135 Would manual focus be a solution?
Hello. Do you still use the viltrox 75? How is the focus with the 1.0.6 update? @@ethanadams9135
@@ethanadams9135 How is the autofocus after 1.0.6 update?
great lens but would postpone getting it till the AF issue gets resolved (maybe in a firmware update)
can you give me some original photos taken with viltro 75mm f1.2 lens with sony e-mount? I'm planning to buy this lens for sony a6400 but don't know how sharp its original image is
Wonder how the Samyang / Rokinon 75/1.8 would stand up in this group. Probably with some misfocusing, but otherwise I believe it’s very sharp.
Can I please ask where would you place the Fujifilm 50mmf2 in comparison to the sigma and the Viltrox?
Don’t forget why we use APS-C. cost & portability. Just go for Sigma 56mm
Awesome, thanks for this! May be a dumb question, but- these lenses that are "made for APSC," does that mean they are true to the mm measure? or is this 75mm on an APSC still going to show up as 112mm? Do we still have to do that math adjustment?
you still need to multiply by 1.5ish
@@ptrcksln Thank you!
Is the 85mm 1.4 not even better in bokeh? For example from Samyang?
i have 2 friend own the 75mmm on fuji. both of them mention that at f1.2 the AF hunting is serious and terrible. only at f1.4 the af is almost perfect.
however the 56mm has been great since beginning on sony and on fuji it has no issue at all.
The scenarios were fairly simple on the missed focus shots. Did the screen show u eye AF is correct but the actual shot had missed focus? Then viltrox is unrwliable 😢
The size is negligible for me, once the camera/lens is in your hand, who really cares? Otherwise it will go in a bag. Get the best image quality lens, and its the Viltrox between these two. Plus the bokeh is more buttery on the Viltrox. The Sigma will always be legendary though but objectively the Viltrox is better.
Hi from the Philippines, kamusta? What can you say about Sigma 18-50mm to A6700? I will use it for cinematic videos and a little photography, thanks in advance. =)
I don't travel with a portrait prime anymore, so I switched out my 56 for the 75.
I love how compact sigma is, it will be an amazing travel and street lens, but i also have a sigma zoom which is so good that i dont find a reason to buy it.
Hi new to your channel. Was wondering for portraits if i would notice a difference in sharpness between the sigma 56 vs the 18-50 2.8 ? I am aware of the aperture difference but my main concern would be center sharpness. I am really happy with the 18-50 but just wondering if the sigma prime would be worth purchasing. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much ✌️
I can't say I've used the 56 1.4 yet. But the 75 1.2 is definitely way sharper than my Sigma 18-50 2.8