15 Common Exercises You Should NEVER Do.
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- "Famous" Physical Therapists Bob Schrupp and Brad Heineck present 15 Common Exercises You Should NEVER Do.
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Long ago my physical therapist drummed into me "You can bend, and you can twist, but NEVER bend and twist at the same time." So I changed how I moved when I was building things or doing heavy gardening. It was awkward at first to avoid bending and twisting at the same time, and to do some things in two steps instead of one, but that has saved me a lot of pain as I've aged - I can feel how keeping those two movements separate keeps my spine stable.
Thanks. Extremly important information!!
Thank you for the advice! I'm 17 and I will never bend and twist at the same time again. But I'm a dancer, so let's see how that goes.
🤣he says, "if you want to Hutt your back, this is what you should do."
You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but don't pick your friend's nose.
@@donf4227 😅🤣
I knew the gym teachers were trying to kill me back in my school days.
lol
No kidding! We used to do some of these in gym class back in the 1970's
@@kelleychilton2524 Girl do what you mean I did 11 of these last school year for school it's been over 50 years and they still don't know these are bad?
@@Hestaka Most PE teachers just don't care and stick to textbook exercise...
And kids are less likely to get hurt (and heal fast) from those exercises.
Now we know, why PE teachers can't give a proper example for those exercises 😒
@@kelleychilton2524 ah the good old days
I think a table of contents will be very helpful. All times and descriptions are approximate:
0:55: windmills / bend, twist, and touch toes with fingers
1:45: full sit-ups, supported sit-ups, sit-ups with weights on chests
2:55: V-sits, and V-sits with twists
3:30: tricep dips off the end of a bench
4:10: running on same side of an inclined road all the time
5:32: upright rows
6:35: standing chest rows with dumbbells
7:25: standing side bends with dumbbells
8:12: behind the neck press-ups and military press
9:24: wide based push ups
10:18: jumping exercises on concrete and landing position of knees
10:48: quad extension machines
11:51: twisting motion with weights for core
Thank you!!!
You really need more likes
We laud heroes
Thanks
very useful, thanks
Finally!! My whole life I’ve had trouble with sit-ups; I can literally hear my lower back POP each time, but nobody ever believed me! They acted like I was being lazy & I was like no, it really hurts my back 😭
SAME!! even at a young age, and eventually i /did/ injure a disc trying to ignore those pops as "normal"like i was told
idk situps was never a thing in my place, was always crunches.
You have to disengage the lower back while doing them. But yeah there are better exercises
I've done ALL of these for years and now I'm paying for it. Listen to these guys!
I was going to say, I think many of us have! Over the years most of us were either taught these exercises either in school, sports, or the military.
Yep...I now know why I have chronic tendonitis and joint pain in my knees and elbows in my early thirties...
@@111Phoenix777 i have started working out at home about 20 days back and I'm doing triceps bench dips... I myself knew that something is wrong maybe I'm hurting my shoulder then i saw this video and it got confirmed... Can you suggest me few alternatives..!?
@@null2639shw I don't know if I know anymore about it than you. I'm still learning myself. I never liked doing tricep bench dips ever. They always hurt my shoulders, even when I was a young man. Last year with all the gyms being closed I broke down and bought a pull-up/dip station for home and was glad I did. And I've been using exercise bands with that to decrease the weight, since I can no longer lift my own body weight. With the few exercises I do these days, I avoid the extremely wide grips which I always started with and emphasized when I was a young man. Also I'm taking MSM and Glucosamin Chondroitin every day to save what's left of my joints. I would recommend either using a dip station, or two tables or chairs on either side of you, about shoulder width apart, so you can start with your hands directly under your shoulders or slightly in front of you, so you're avoiding the extreme angle rotation on your shoulders
One of the books that Zahabit recommended was Dr. Kelly Starrett's and Glen Cordoza's "Becoming a Supple Leopard" (2015). I bought the book a few months ago, but have yet had a chance to read it cover to cover. On pages 216 to 217 though, it talks about dips, and the importance of keeping your forearms vertical throughout the exercise. I'm not sure that I've been doing that, so I'm learning here too. Also, it recommends that you use a dip station that's high enough off the ground that you don't have to bend your legs during the exercise. I haven't been doing that either, but not sure what my alternatives are. All the gyms are still closed, and it's impractical for me where I live to buy a set of parallel bars. I think we're all just doing the best we can with what we have. I'm not in pain when I do my limited exercise routine, yet, so I'm lucky. But I guess I could use some work on my form.
I knew I wasn't crazy when my back hurt at age 16 doing sit-ups
Ikr I’m 14 with a lot of knee, ankle, WRIST, foot and upper back pain 😞. My wrists hurt so bad and are sore that I don’t want to pick up anything. Doing similar workouts and I have ran 5 miles two days in a row before. I have to be careful what I do and make sure I rest.
you should never come up that much .....it does not work your core. only slight upward motion then the tension goes away from your core
@@lowestoflows2 me too! I feel like I am too weak
No pain, no gain.
@@subs4794 that saying refers to the muscles, not the BONES
Notes taken from the video:
1)Be aware of when your joints are working excessively in order to compensate for the motion unnatural for a human, and change the direction or amplitude of exercise to preserve them;
2)Do not twist and bend your spine simultaneously, work on different muscle groups along the spine, but keep it fixed in one way or another to not stress it too much;
3)Negative effects of irrational exercising take time to build up, and you will realize them when you have already done much more bad than good to your skeletal structure;
4)You always can find another exercise for the desired group of muscles if you understand that the previous ones did you wrong;
5)Bob & Brad are the most famous physical therapists on the net (in their opinion, of course)
all that for 9 likes
@@noggadock6150 It was 0 back when I started so I consider this a good investment
@@noggadock6150100 now :)
I always walked my dog along the same slope at the park. I ended up tilting my pelvis, and with bursitis in one hip. The physical therapist fixed me up like magic. But five years later, I developed arthritis in the injured hip and had to get a total hip replacement. Bob, you know what you are talking about. BTW, the surgery went perfectly, and I am doing great.
It probably throw your dogs body off too.
@@dianeyoung8068 facts
How's your dog 🐶?
You must have sit a lot im general
Bad blood and nerve supply
You dont need a hip replacememt from just that
@@backbone93 Please use correct English when giving out medical advice.
So pretty much all the exercises you do during school and in the military
Literally my entire military career in one video.
@@jodimcdonald4356 I know right New PRT
They force you to do all of these in gym class
Jodi McDonald I think this is why physical therapists should be teaching exercise rather than personal trainers.
Ash_OutcastsOfSuburbia when they shouldn’t be.
Please do a "15 Alternatives" video.
Marlelar Marlelar yes!!!
Totally! I thought they would
Absolutely. It's so annoying saying we have healthy alternatives but not giving them! Maybe it's a way of making us watch their 2000 videos trying to find them...
I agree would've been better to do less that were wrong & do alternatives. 🤣🤣👌
Better than alternatives, learn how to improve your body so you *can* do these things safely. There are thousands of good RUclips videos showing good progressions. The body is made to move in all kinds of ways and if you pay attention not to force things, your body will adapt.
I was very heavy and started swimming, walking, running and exercising in the pool (to avoid back problems and joint wear)... I've lost more than 30 kilos from June until now in December!
Congratulations, keep it up!
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Yeah, props to you! I hate to say it, but the hard part is just starting (if you had that weight on for a long time.) I put on about 15 pounds after a Soccer injury 30 years ago, and it stayed on for quite a while. I have lost it a couple of times, but it always came back, until this last time. This time I lost it as you did- just by staying active for a long period of time (not really even thinking about the weight issue.). (Pickleball.) Now my weight is 2 pounds more than when I played College Soccer, and has been for almost a year. I think if you enjoy the exercise you're getting, you'll probably successfully keep it off, but it you're eating and /or exercising in an unpleasant way just to lose weight, probably not going to work long term.
Good job!
Just keep on adjusting the routines to your changing weight. Really fat people are basically a walking gym. If they could strip away the fat there'd be quite a set of muscles underneath, at least below the waist. But while you lose weight, you are basically working out with decreasing weight....
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that intro.... i’ve stumbled upon gold
IKR! :-)
That has to go be bill wurtz
Can you guys create a workout video made up of safe exercises that work the entire body, pleaseeeeeee😁
I agree with that man!
same
@@padaleczwyczajny9185 they have done on one it’s old but gold
@@3zek0 do you have the link?
@@khakishark ruclips.net/video/qWQsMOAa08c/видео.html
I am retired and I need exercises. After viewing many fitness/physiotherapists on RUclips, I have decided to watch your videos only. Your explanations and honesty give you credability, and you are fun to watch.
Hi, I'm a Physical Medicine & Rehab/Pain doc in LA and I love your videos (and your theme song!) . I wish there was more content on the internet like what you're creating: good, basic, universally entertaining physical and medical knowledge. I'd love to collaborate on a "15 Alternatives" video and have you guys fact check some of the exercises I prescribe to pretty much all of my patients. Also I would love any advice you have about starting a channel about function from a medical perspective. I hope you reach out to me, and keep up the great work!
I hope they saw this comment! Can I ask, did you end up making a video about the alternative exercises?
@@AJames-xs2xr if you need a theme song let me know
You should make a "Required to watch before getting a gym membership" video!
I think every trainer at a gym should watch their videos, especially this one.
that video would be soooo long haha
I avoid gym memberships. I'm 67 years old. I cannot afford physically nor financially the "no pain, no gain" philosophy. That lands people in the Hospital and a lot of pain. I'll pass.
As we wait for that video, you might want to check out
"Weight training without injury: Over 350 step-by-step pictures including what not to do" book
Why do i work out so hard in the gym for years just to break my back after a sneeze in my 50s?
Km Trn you’re 50?!?! You look like you’re in your 20s!
Oh nooo! I hope your doctor ordered a bone densitometry for you/ check for osteoporosis!
@Reaper5.56 Xx lol 9 months later and someone still replies
Reaper5.56 Xx good observation
😁
It's 2020, let's get that 15 alternatives and if it's already made, put it in the description of this video. You guys rock! Keep up the good work!
Yes pleeeease
I found it ruclips.net/video/e8dyPfXk42M/видео.html
The alternatives video is at
ruclips.net/video/e8dyPfXk42M/видео.html
or search for
Alternatives For 15 Common Exercises You Should NEVER DO! (By Popular Demand)
if these guys lived in ancient rome i suspect they’d have such an impact on history we’d all be learning about them to this day.
You two are VERY consistent! I have seen some of these warnings in your other videos, and the reasoning and warnings have been consistently the same. That makes me, as a researcher and analyst, very happy.
Consistency is key! Glad that we could make you happy :)
Don't forget heavy schoolbooks..on the hip or backpack back in the 60s. my back is a crash.
All of us to survive the 1960s PE classes now have bad backs. Thank a lot, Coach Lyles.
Not wholly true sir. I survived 60's PE, have no military time and ABSOLUTELY have no back pain or problems whatsoever. I also did not do sports in school.
Guess I'm just lucky,.... though I personally, I call it "being blessed" ! Hope you can find a remedy of some sort for your back.
Thank you for your service !
I stopped the forward bend and windmills and the lower back pain just stopped ! Thank you very much ! Please do keep sharing information like this. The "don't's" are actually so very important.
Probably the most honest video on exercise on YT. I always felt something was off with these exercises, but i continued doing them as literally everyone is doing them too... Never again.
My whole life is a lie
right?! same here
Basically. YEAH mine too
take the blue pill. and wake up.
😆😅
Just go for long walks then ?
thanks ! but I wish you guys showed an alternative
Jeff Cavalier gives alternative to some of these exercises
Randolf you may want to check their other videos, they have given alternatives in other videos
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My suggested videos right now shows one of their videos with the title "7 exercises you should do every day". That sounds like a good place to start!
6:00 ho half way?
I would love if they made reaction videos to other RUclipsrs’ or fitness studio’s videos! Their thoughts on the exercises, advice, alternatives, etc!
im 23 and so glad i stumbled upon this at my age. luckily a lot of the exercises to never do are ones i hate anyway because they hurt--bob and brad are on point! there are too many people my parents' age with bad backs because they did stuff like this :(
These 'don'ts' are right in line with Athlean-X's channel. He preaches the same exercises are bad to do. I stopped doing all of these exercises, and my shoulders, back, and knees haven't been stronger.
Bumble Bee what do you do to strengthen shoulders? I guess I'm gonna stop doing military presses.
Tyler T I've seen Athlean-X recommended dumbbell shoulder presses with your arms around 30-40 degrees in front of the body
those are traps...try "bat wings" exercises or anything to strengthen the trap muscles. they are essential for me I have scoliosis and really help
thanks for the tip, checked it out and really like the channel!!
The only thing they would probably disagree on is Russian twists. I've seen Jeff do those in a V-sit position, and his rotation core movements often include spine flexion. A few years ago Jeff did say spine flexion combined with rotation caused hernia, but he still does that in his videos. I don't know about Jeff's experience with patients/athletes with herniated lower back (and that seems to be one area he hasn't had an injury), but that seems to be the weak spot of his channel. Even on the video about sciatica he went on to talk about fake sciatica and offered solution for that, though his recommendation of daily spine decompression is in line with the hernia treatment shown in this channel. Still, most of Jeff's 1 million ab exercises are really problematic for people with herniated disks, but he would just tell you to strengthen your hips instead of coming up with lower back friendly movements as he does with knees, shoulders, wrists and elbows. Even for flat feet he has incredible exercise tweaks, but not much on lower back problems.
Mind blown
50% of my Gym routine obliterated in one vid 😳
😂😂😂
Thank you, because I hated the last exercise the most. Cowbell sit twist things. Not doing them any more
Then why do you even bother going to a gym?
Barry Wainwright exactly my thoughts. None of that really has much to do with the gym. Most moderate workout moms have more equipment then they mentioned in this video. Dude full of it or he’s been throwing money out the window.
@@ferngully3481 why judge the person. they may have a gym buddy or are more consistent when going to a physical gym. why judge what they do at a gym. they also said only 50%. the other 50% is likely them using equipment that the gym provides.
Georga Seebalack Ikr they are being dumb
Absolutely
“Brad, which way does gravity go?” 🤔
I did those v-sits and Russian twists in my 20-ies and ended up with pinched sciatica nerve and now in my 40 's if I am not extremely careful It comes back. So true!
Don'ts or be cautious:
- Sit-ups
- Russian twists
- Tricep dips
- Running - don't run the same side of the road / same track direction
- upright rows
- bench press but standing upright!
- Loaded side bends
- (military) press behind the neck
- wide based (elbows out) press-up
- jumping exercises. Not on concrete. Be careful knees don't collapse inwards.
- quad extension weight machine
- v-sits / weighted Russian twists
Dips are great-just not bench dips-which force your shoulder to the end of the range of motion.
I would say the the critique is on the position of the hand/arm on the Tricep Dip.
Thanks
Thanks
Gary Thompson there’s only one way to run on a track
Back in 2016, my personal trainer had me doing most of these exercises, until I was in so much agony after a year, I had to quit. Thank you for explaining why that likely happened to me. I have been following a few of your videos for a while now, and they're very enlightening and helpful in my current workout.
I've been a member of the YMCA for over 20 years and have done every single one of those exercises. Now I know where my spinal stenosis came from. Thanks for sharing!!!!
Thanks, guys! I’m 59 and have always been active. I had rotator cuff surgery a couple of months ago, and am going thru PT now. Your videos are entertaining and helpful. God bless!
Could you please make a follow up video with the exercises that you DO recommend instead?
Erosenkohl athlean x is your answer
@Jon Beck RUclips channel
@Jon Beck he's targeting athletes and people who want to build functional strength. Also check out some of his older videos, there aren't as many gimmicks but still full of great information. You dont need to look any farther than his professional athlete clients or absolutely shredded physique to see he knows what he is talking about. In addition, just because he promotes strength training doesnt mean you'll turn into a mass monster if you follow his workout regime.
Jon Beck literally anything you need you can find on his channel. hes the best. he even has videos about an uncommon bone deformity which i have and helped me. he trains athletes for a living
@@shravanpoloju8311 He recommends the tricep dips these guys say are bad...
I was not doing any of them anyway. I'm gonna live forever
Hey guys! Greetings from Panama! I am an English Professor for an PT and Nursing university. The best from you is to help my students with your short videos for them to look for the background information of each of the topics you present everytime. Thank you! Because you are part of my class. The sky is the limit. Mr. Ortega
great!
It is so surprising that most physical therapist agree with all your recommendations. Yet if you go to any gym one sees these exercises being done often with a personal trainer! Too bad your videos can’t be played on a constant loop on TVs at all gyms. You guys are great. Simple but comprehensive instructions!
Most personal trainers are just enthusiastic about training.
Edit: they don't have any formal education on exercise safety; they just LOVE the field.
That's because physical therapy and weight training are wildly different. Done with proper form, most of the exercises mentioned are safe...
@@wilfreddv are you sure I have read plenty of comments and all of them says they got problems ... Later everyone blames the form ... Nobody actually is considerate about the problem someone is going through
I hired a trainer at the gym and within a few months it messed up my back and knees and now I’m 37 and I go for chiropractor care for adjustments. Eventually all this bad exercises we do at the gym will take a toll on your body. I’m glad I came across this channel.
After 10 years of constant chiropractic treatments, I came to the conclusion that it’s quackery. I finally improved when I quit getting adjustments, changed jobs, and began exercising again.
@@MrTeff999 Yup. It's not medically sound.
@@9UaYXxB Wisdom is known of her children. What would you say of those people who got significant improvement after visiting a chiropractor? Modern is as scientific as it is political.
@@omusaatsawatuukha2513 What would you say to those people that have experienced paralysis or other medical emergencies after visiting a chiropractor? Remember it is not technically medical treatment or necessary, and therefore not worth the risk of death or grave injury. Popping your knuckles feels good until you develop severe arthritis.
@@Chunkable999 People who have suffered back pains for years will disagree with you on whether it is "technically medical treatment or necessary." There are people who have experienced medical emergencies after taking drugs recommended to them by doctors.
would love to see a program where you say 'don't do this' but do do this. SAme time, so we don't have to look back and forth for alternatives.
This.
Great learning from you guys. Just turned 80 and I got to keep the blood flowing. You're doing a good job of teaching and motivating me.
This video is a must for everyone working out. I only wish that this was out 25 years ago! Great job guys.
I've had lower back problems since I was a teenager. Thanks so much for bringing this to my attention. You two are a wealth of knowledge.
This is AMAZING! Thank you guys for being such a forefront for the Physical Therapist profession and taking this to the most used social media platform. We KNOW what we are talking about! Trust me, we didn’t go through 19 years of schooling to provide inaccurate information. These guys are extremely brilliant, and they are doing this to benefit everyone else. They care! So please keep creating videos, because you’re inspirational, motivating, and amazing advocates. Thank you!
A lot of these claims have actually been dunked by further research..movements aren't bad. It's improper loading that generally gets people hurt
Many times in classes I would sit out certain exercises or modify them & be viewed as uncooperative. Thank you for sharing this info - I hope more teachers see it and I hope everyone always does what's right for them vs. what's expected of them in a class! There are good and bad teachers out there. Find the good ones!
I think the important thing is to listen carefully to your body when doing an exercise. Limit the range or lower the weight, or abstain altogether if a certain exercise stresses a joint or muscle. Many, many people have been able to do sit-ups, standing press, etc. without issue. But a lot of this info is certainly good to keep in mind.
Most importantly, focus on your form more than the numbers of weight or reps that you do. At least at first. A good exercise with bad form is no better than a bad exercise with good form
4:50 - A darn good reason all towns need wide walking/biking lanes, created for that purpose, with this in mind.
I agree.
Definitely, never take away walking from citizens.
joggers need to ante up for those wide shoulders then. Roads are for vehicles not your fitness routine. Bikers are not pedestrians they are considered a vehicle, as such they have to follow the rules of the road just as a car. If a town wants to use taxpayer/ public funds on bike paths fine , but otherwise ..... With the traffic bicyclists! Against the traffic pedestrians.
I think that's the first time I've ever actually clicked "subscribe" when someone told me to, lol. This is my 10 th video of yours in a row tonight. I hope you know you're helping me avoid chores. Sadly, my cats will still need their litter boxes scooped when I'm done watching this.
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I do ALL of them and my back is always hurting. Now I think I know why
I do some but my back pains are gone, maybe I do it a more moderate way?
Even before I learned this from you I knew somehow that those exercises were uncomfortable and felt wrong. I didn’t stay at a gym for long and now I’m glad about it.
Most of these exercises were in the army's pft program! No wonder why I have a bulging disc!
Zechariah Pena You should go see a physical therapist. Take advantage of your insurance!!!
@@bremenfan29 take advantage of the disability too
No wonder my back always hurts!! Years of doing the wrong thing. Thank you.
I have been working out with a trainer and my neck and back are hurting and we did the sit-ups and the behind the head with weights and until I saw your video I didn’t realize that is what is causing my pain. Thank you for this
This is so funny, most of these are exercises I had to do in the Army. Every morning we did windmills as part of our warm up. Our fitness test required both full sit ups with someone supporting your feet and push ups that I definitely kept my arms outward for so I could do as many as possible. Must be why my back hurts so much now hahahaha
Yep. I did all of these exercises in the USMC and once I hit my 40s I needed back surgery. Looking back, I have to wonder if all that stress put on my lumbar spine with 70+ pound rucks and these sort of exercises contributed to my back issues. Actually, I don't have to wonder, I'm pretty sure what I did in the Marines absolutely led to the back surgery.
15 years in the British Army (Infantry) We did the same ,now we're mostly in our 50's all broken and in constant pain with back knee and hip injuries .🤔
@@stevebelam2378 I can only imagine how much it is costing our governments in veteran's benefits. But I'm sure it really isn't an issue for them as they have billions to send to Ukraine...
I have noticed that the US military has significantly improved the boots and ergonomics of gear over the 30 years since I served. I'm sure all the back, hip, knee, and foot injuries of veterans had something to do with it.
I feel like most personal trainers will tell you to do these workouts.
this may be the beast youtube video i have EVER seen. thank you for your time and your life’s work dedicated to improving people’s fitness and mobility.
This makes a lot of sense...I been doing most of those exercises my whole life, and I always wondered why my shoulders hurt. I wished I'd known this earlier!!!
Well looks like I have been doing things wrong, thanks for putting me right. I have chronic back pain so will look for better exercises to do to help me with pain and improve what I have. Thanks so much 👋
Oh no, I'll need the alternatives, because I did most of these exercises.
I suffer so much from lower back pain, you guys have really helped more than the couple dozens of doctors, physical therapists, etc ive been seeing.
Thanks for the support. How can i get an appointment.
wtf i just stumbled onto this channel and after hearing your intro song I was HOOKED you two are def my favorite physical therapists on the internet xD
This channel is so good, you should set-up a patreon so people can donate. You're handing out golden information that even "experts" get wrong routinely, please keep doing what you're doing, the service you provide is completely invaluable to the public.
As a coach im glad I have agreed with all of these and haven't had anyone do any. Thanks guys!
Wow, what an eye-opener!! I am guilty as charged on most of those. And, not surprisingly, I do have back problems. Now my mantra is, if it doesn't feel good, don't do it! It would be great to have a "counter video" of healthy exercise alternatives to work the areas you covered in this video. Thanks for all the wonderful info. Love you guys!
Thanks, guys, for setting the record straight and apprising people of this. I think many or most of these exercises have been done by many or most of us since we were in grammar school. All the best to you guys.
Thanks Bob and Brad this video was really enlightening as I just realized most of those were the ones I would do. I really needed this video to show me how to save my back and it all makes perfect sense after watching this. To think that in middle and high school PE coaches would actually make everyone do several of these. No wonder people have back pains when they are older. Thanks for the great information to open our eyes to this. Love the videos!
Thanks every PE class, Marine Corps PT, and college gym.
Thanks for your amazing stuff you're uploading for free ! Thanks for all the injuries prevented ! You're amazing guys :)
Pretty good. I happen to like normal military press but I your explanation is sound. Completely agree on leg extensions and upright rows.
This is eye opening!! No wonder I’ve had so many injuries as I’ve gotten older! I did all of these for years!
oh my I do some of these, stopping and finding healthier options. Thank you so much guys!
Forty some years ago a trainer at my gym gave me the same advice on most of these excercises. On the quad extensions he recommended light weight of fifteen pounds or less and, perhaps more importantly, to lower the leg only about 15° from horizontal. That mainly turns this excercise into one that benefits the knees, and may be why I have healthy knees at age 70.
Yes exactly this and to do Time under Tension when coming down from extension light weight. Count to 4.
Mmmhhh,,, your healthy knees could be because of your genetics, you didn't ride wild horses, work on a ranch, or raced motocross??
@@luisfelix7989 Nope, I didn't do any of those, so what you say may be a factor. But, I was a postal worker for thirty-five years. I watched a lot of co-workers limp out of here into retirement. So, maybe a little genetics, a little excercise, and a little luck.
I am happy to say that I had rotated almost all of these out of my gym routine, months ago. However, this did teach me to alter my position and style for push-ups, so I'll be making that change and pressing forward.
wow... im binge watching your videos and im learning so much. I just started a program that requires me to do shoulder press with the barbell and now im reconsidering it
Wow, so many of these I've been taught in fitness and Yoga trainings! Thanks for pointing these again and even though they may not hurt me, may be really bad for some people. Going to look for your alternative core strengtheners as so many of my students are weak in this area.
Thanks for this video. I could have used it earlier in life when I was being taught to do everything that you just said NOT to do. One suggestion, if I may, a couple years ago I went to the gym to try to build up my back muscles. I had plenty of stenosis so I figured build the muscle spare the pain. My mistake was doing the back extension machine, That was the worst mistake I made. Had to have surgery. So now I follow your videos for BETTER ways to exercise.
Really great information in this video, guys! As someone with a dance and 'bodywork' (mostly massage and alignment therapies) background, you are spot on. Congrats on sharing important information for people to have.
I’ve done most of those years back except for the behind the neck military press and lat pull downs! You’re exactly right, it’s not worth the pain in the back or knees. Thanks gentlemen!
OMG!! I wish I had seen this a month ago! I was working out with a personal trainer and he had me doing most of those exercises. Dead bugs, Russian twists, and twisting to lift a medicine ball from one side and dropping it on the other, then doing it on the other side (kind of like the windmills only with the medicine ball). Now I am recovering from severe back pain. My L5 shifted left and my S1 shifted right. I have been to my chiropractor 5 times in the last 2 weeks to get adjusted and it is finally getting better. Ugh! I thought I was doing something to improve my health, not make it worse!!!
Deborah Coleman There are safe ways to perform all the movements that you mentioned. I always make sure I have my clients rotate their upper back and avoid rotating from the lower back/hips on Russian twists or Medicine Ball Chops. Dead bugs require almost flattening of the lower back, where you actively pull your belly button down towards the ground. Otherwise they all become unsafe for the lower back. They aren’t appropriate for people who already have imbalances or lower back pain, but for many others they work just fine. If your personal trainer isn’t giving you specific cues on core movements to help you protect your lower back, ditch them. But don’t be scared of isolation/ab work in general.
Everyone thinks they're a personal trainer these days as you need little to no qualifications to class yourself as 1.. Be very careful on who you ask for advice and always do your research when someone gives you new information, don't just take their word for it!!
If I were you I'd go back and tell him so he doesn't hurt other people!
My trainer had me doing majority of these as well. Most of these exercises never felt comfortable when doing them anyway, plus I already have back issues and I’d leave feeling horrible after a workout. There was probably a reason why I felt uncomfortable doing these because they’re not meant to be doing lol
You should go see a physical therapist so they can tell you what exercises you should do to keep your back healthy and to prevent from getting hurt.
I trust your guys more than those "fitness gurus" on other RUclips channels !
As a physiotherapist who received my bachelors and 1 year training in this century: this is bullshit! These guys are so outdated.
I agree with adi here, don't trust these guys. They are just spreading baloney
+ Jorgen how so? or are you just trolling
Crazy I read your comment at the same time I heard these guys in the video say this
adijump they received their PhD on physiotherapy... so I find your statement confusing.
Thank you! Just started working out at home. I didn't know what I do is making my body suffer more. I'll check out your other videos as well. Keep it up!
SUMMARY:
Windmills
Full sit-ups
Dips
Horizontal bar lifts
Loaded side bends
Wide push-ups
Behind-the-neck press ups
Weighted quad extensions
Weighted V sets
Jumping on concrete
Landing with knees bent in
Walking/jogging/running on the same side of the street
I understand now why 12 of the 15 exercises have caused more harm than good on my body. Great video and commentary.
I live a fairly active life and out of all my friends, I'm the only one who still goes to the gym 3 times a week. Being going since I was 18. I am 40 now. I don't use heavy weights. My lower back starts deteriorating over the years and it always hurt more the next day after gym. Now I know why!
Spent a lot of money on sports therapy massage and even laser treatment with only temporary relieve. Watched a few of your videos to diagnose my issue (S.I). Tried your 4 stretches and instantly relieve! I can seat down for more than half hour without pain. However, I'm still very stiff in the morning. Hopefully I'll find an answer in one of these videos.
Big thanks guys. Love your videos.
RUclips says 1 year ago... Kor, how have you been doing? Having neck and lower back pain myself (when sitting down) and wondering if you've had any big improvement...:)
Chop Carry how is ur back now? Updates?
Thank you, Bob and Brad! Thank you so much!
So appreciate you both, clever, funny, and so right on the money.
I am a male massage therapist and went to school for this profession for 5 years and because of this I developed a lot of common seance around exercising and stretching. I watch your videos just to verify that what i am doing is correct. i have not had back pain for the last 20 years because I stretch psoas , periformis and hamstring muscles
a male massage therapist? like a massage therapist for men or a massage therapist who is a man?
Great video guys! I watch peeps doing these at the gym and just can’t believe my eyes! (Some times it’s trainers who don’t know and that’s dangerous... just as Bob said)! Knowledge is power! You can’t workout if you’re injured I remind my clients. Every trainer should have a PT as a bestie!
Show me one exercise in this video that is "dangerous" . Guess what ? there are none. Dangerous is crossing the road without looking, not body weight exercises. I can do these exercises in the video all day, and no pain. A lot of them are beneficial, like Upright rows and dips. They are only bad if done with such bad form, or in a way that might aggravate an existing injury.
I'm guessing from your picture that you're a young guy (under 40), so of course you can do anything. Sooner or later your joints will wear out and you'll understand the wisdom of playing it safe, as Bob and Brad recommend.You'll be able to lift for many more years if you follow their advice!
So I think yoga has ended up ruining my lower back after years of forward folds, toe touching, planks oh dear. Cross fit gone too. It’s walking on a flat surface for me from now on.
Au contraire-- good instruction emphasizes protecting the lower spine. Now an RYT, I found many yoga postures were great for strengthening the area to protect a slipped disk. When I teach spinal twists, I first explain the anatomy with illustrations and the move (need to engage and lift first) before we try it. Plank...?? Maybe a collapsed side plank?
I went back to the yoga studio last month after a year of only going a handful of times. I've been going 3x a week and have more aches and pains now, especially my lower back! It's so frustrating because I love it so much.
Brilliant video guys. You should add a few more to this list including "Seated toe touch" and "deep glute stretch" I pulled my back muscles from these 2.
@2:00, that's probably why after 20 + years of the military, that I have bulging discs, neuropathy , and arthritis in my lower back. I never do military style sit-ups any more ;-(
I feel you buddy I used to train abs 2-3 times a day for 7 years when I used to box and now my back is FUCKED!!
Lol not according to the VA, apparently damaged shoulders, knees and ankles are not service related.
Edgar Valdez
So sorry, Edgar. That's terrible. What did you do for the military?
God Bless you for your service. 🇺🇸
I feel like an alternate title for this video could be “PT Leader’s favorite exercises”
Yeah but they never have you doing back extensions right?
You just saved my spine from traumas! Thank you very much, Bob and Brad! New subscriber here :)
You guys are so entertaining. Thanks for these recommendations of exercises to avoid. I used to do some of them myself.
I'm so thankful for coming across this video and this channel.
so basically everyone over 40 needs to re learn how to work out correctly
discolissa666 you can say that again!
Basically... Yeah because you don't want to keep that up till you're 65.
damage is already done during younger age by doing bad excercises, its just that after 40 body starts to show the damage done
Everyone needs to! I'm 22 and I was taught all these exercises
Yes please help us understand right way to work out without hurting ur joints.
Gosh this is pretty eye opening
I really enjoy you guys. You get right to it and you are easy to understand. Keep posting thank you! 😊
Wow, I really needed to see this video today. I have a connective tissue disorder and always struggled with exercise but bore through the pain. This explains so much. Every exercise they've listed so far have been the most painful for me. That quad machine on the patella hurts like hell. I felt like my knee was gonna pop off.
Until I was in a wheelchair a few years ago (out and feeling much better now) I just thought everyone felt like this. I'm ready to start on a new, more reasonable exercise journey and hopefully, I can make one that is PT-approved and hurts less.