Since some people here seem to have a 4" thick skull, I had no dealings with Ubisoft for this video. The sponsor was NZXT who also has no connection with Ubisoft. I felt I made that pretty clear but then again I didn't write it in crayon so maybe it missed the mark.
People are just upset you didn’t bury the game 6 feet deep like other channels have. How dare you not align with the sheep Jay!! Great video as always. Hope I run into you at the Tustin store sometime.
if you add "-unlockmaxsettings" as a start parameter in the Ubisoft launcher you get a HIDDEN GRAPHICS PRESET CALLED "OUTLAW" that (obviously) max'es out the graphics settings...... too bad I only have a 6650XT and not a 4090 because I would LOVE to see this!!! So being that you HAVE a 4090 I hope you read thi8s, and TRY IT OUT!!! :D
Han not only shot first, he was the only one to shoot. George Lucas changed it like 3 times every time he released a new version. But in the 1977 theatrical release...he just plain murdered him and Greedo never even pulled the trigger.
Thank you for using your brain. They deserve no dollars for that debauchery, it should be free-to-play. Then it would be funny and it wouldn't of been an issue.
So as an OG Star Wars fan myself, I'm super triggered by all the "Wukong" comments lol.... In all seriousness I really couldn't care less what games people are in to, we showed the performance between 6 different GPUs and y'all can do with that info whatever you want. As for Wukong, I haven't tested the game "yet" but that doesn't mean it won't happen. Serious question.... why are gamers so whiny?
I've been playing it since the 27th and I'm absolutely loving it. I'm using a Ryzen 5800X and an RX7600, it's running at medium settings due to a crash that would happen consistently when run at high, but I've had little or no artifacting and have FSR on.
I honestly can imagine a promo for this game on your channel Phil popping it head around the door jam saying "Jay... Jay... Jaaaaaaayyyyy..." and then cutting to the scene where Darth Vader's chamber opens and a distorted, crackly and heavily breathed Jay replying with "Whhhhaaat?!" before Phil says "We go work to do" followed by Nick adding "Yeah"
Start of the video "this game requires RT and will suck on older hardware, may be one of the first titles to force a hardware upgrade" End of the video "this game does very well on low end hardware, not one of those titles that will make people run out and upgrade"
It was a sponsored video but not by Ubisoft. And he was fairly critical of all the artifacting he was getting in game even on high-end cards, you usually don't see that in sponsored content. I was just confused by the change in perspective. Perhaps it's just cause I know many people that still have 10 series cards that I still consider them part of the low end, but it is 3 gens old, maybe that's just too outdated of me and "low end" now is at least 20 series with RT cores, and the 10 series are now whatever below "low end" is.
@@Jayztwocents I don't get those artifacts. First time seeing it. I run msi 4090, 7950x3d, 64gb ram and have secret settings at max in 4k. dlss performance with frame gen on. path tracing to max as well. Frames can jump up to around 80 or 90 indoors but outside in the world hovers around 60, lowest I've seen was 50.
@@theMedicatedCitizen I still play Rebellion. It's such a good game. And X-Wing Alliance has a huge graphical overhaul mod that makes it look fantastic.
Dark Forces 2 had the best gunplay in the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series for sure. Jedi Academy had the best saber combat (although Jedi Outcast was the one who massively innovated with it). You'd think it'd have the best gunplay too, but for some reason, when Raven made the transition to the idTech3 engine, they did a shit job with most of the guns.
About the artefacts and visual bugs, could really be because this game is meant to be played with the cinematic aspect ratio, saw a Daniel Owen video just few days ago, where he explains it and shows show just switching from the meant cinematic ratio to the "commom" one drops your fps like crazy, also shows you a lot less of the environment on the screen, give it a try to see if it makes any difference at all
I have over 20 hours so far in this game, and I don’t have any of those artifacting issues at all. I have a 12700k, 7900xtx, 32gb 5200mhz ddr5, 4tb sata ssd and I play at 4k.
I’m a Star Wars fan “dork” as well, I’m into 1/24 scale plastic model kits, I built Millennium Falcon, Snow Speeder and Luke’s X-Wing as well. I’m also trying to complete the Deagostini Millennium Falcon complete with lightning. So I know how you are passionate about Star Wars.
Wukong comes out, breaks every record known to man: Skips Terrible Ubisoft copy & paste game comes out: HOW MUCH GPU DO YOU NEED for this 2014 lookin ahh game
Ironic you say that considering the game structure of Wukong screams 2010. Not necessarily a bad thing buit its semi linear layout withinvisible walls every way is PS3/X360 Gen.
Last game i've played from ubisoft was AC Black Flag when this company was actually good but i believe all Ubisoft games nowadays is "Clear the Outpost and capture the communication tower", please say if i am right.
It's good that more games have path tracing as an option since that will eventually lead to better implementation and hardware improvements but it's hardly worth the performance hit these days, even with the best hardware. For game settings in general, personally i have never cared too much about really high shadow quality. It has always benn one of the graphics settings i always turned down or off entirely in favor of higher framerates. Shadows have always cost a lot of performance in games
I saw it was free with a 14900k on newegg but I waited a day too late to buy and didn't get the game. Now I'm sitting here like.... did I really miss out on anything?
Ok so I run the 6950xt and the 5800x3d right and I get a lot of the consistency as the 6750xt and 4060, higher fps but way more steady, honestly preferred. I do run the 1440 on high, same preset. I really want to upgrade GPU's being a PC guy but, in all honesty, the 6950xt has never let me down in a title yet. AND the 5800x3d people complain and say oh that chip is old and blah blah blah, which if they knew what they were talking about they wouldn't say that, but it has 0 problems with current titles. This is a great example of how good the "older" GPUs are. Awesome video. Drew.
Honestly one of the worst things about the internet is games releasing with bugs & most larger developers are just "oh yeah we didn't have time to sort before release, we'll patch it soon"
Worse than that are the apologists who crop up and insult you for noticing something's broken and gaslighting you into believing you're the issue. Hi Jay!!!
Thank you so much! My 4080 super was only getting 80-90 fps in 1440p. After changing the settings its up in the 120-150 range. I feel much better now!!!
I played about an hour of it (did NOT buy the game, just got ubisoft+ and swiftly canceled it) until it kept crashing when i went to a certain area. It did it twice, and i uninstalled it, and the ubisoft app. Not dealing with that shit
i7-14700k, 4070S, artifacts didn't appear on the first planet nor the snow town, but they started on Tatooine. They continued when I got to the forest planet and I'm starting to crash on the forest planet too, mostly when quick traveling. Got 38 hours before I had any problems. I am enjoying it though. Thanks for not making me panic, I've been worried my 3 month old card was faulty.
I'm running an MSI Raider GE78HX 13VH-070US 17" Gaming Laptop Computer, Intel Core i9 13950HX (1.6GHz) Processor, 32GB DDR5-4800 RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Graphics Card, came with a 2tb SSD that I swapped out for a WD Black SN850X 4TB 112L 3D TLC NAND Flash PCIe Gen 4 x4 NVMe M.2 for OS and main drive, then added for fun, the Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus SSD 8TB NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 as my secondary/game storage drive. With Ubisoft and Massive going in on Star Wars Outlaws I took the chance on a day one purchase, and so far have not regretted buying the game day one. Runs perfectly on my laptop, happy with the game so far. Soo glad to finally see a Star Wars game NOT screwed up by EA/Dice, because they had nothing to do with Star Wars Outlaws.
Greedo never used his weapon. han killed him BEFORE it could happen because han distracted him by talking to hum : - Han : "Yeah... i bet you have" BANG!
the rtx requirement is one of the dumbest things ive heard being required for a game. like i dont really care about the game but it sets a horrible president for future games if someone cant afford hardware that can play it, like the last time i got angry about a hardware limitation was when 3.5 mm headphone jacks were removed from phones.
I kinda makes sense though. RT has been a feature on cards for years, so cards that are completely incapable of doing it are kinda dying out slowly but surely. It also makes development easier, saves time and thus money for the studios while (mostly) looking better IF the hardware can support it. Hate it all you want, it's the future of gaming at this point.
@@Kr0noZ my question then is mobile chips like zen 4 chips for AMD and Intel xe chips, will those be supported? I don't think they have rt on them and those are being used for mobile gaming, if rt is required it's going to really affect the mobile market
I just ran across your video on SW outlaws, I have been playing since it dropped. My PC specs are ASUS x670E-E MB, AMD 7800X3D, Sapphire Nirto + RX 7900 XTX, 64 GB ram (just because I can), BeQuiet! 360 cooler with the GPU air cooled. I will say before I used the settings that you showed in the video I did get some artifacting at times. Since I used the settings I have not seen any of that and it is running very smooth. There was an update today when I logged on as well but I have not checked the notes to see what was updated in that patch. Awesome video thank you for showing us how to get better results when playing this title, awesome work and video as always. HaHa, so update the longer I played the more artificating I saw; however it did depend on the location I was in and the activity I was doing at the time. It was much like what you saw when running around in the settlements or towns.
It reminds me of a discussion about cars: a ferrari with 800hp can drive on the road but if it's limited at 130km/h it doesn't run better os as well as an average car, seems the same thing for GFX card, game is the type off road (not finished here? lol) and the GFX cards are the cars. A bit funny analogy here =) Good video as always.
I have a 7900X3D with a Zotac 4080 Super and 64GB of 6000MT/s DDR5. I have noticed the artifacting and some funny bugs from time to time. But otherwise it runs really well.
There's a very good reason why Han killed greedo... it's about his character at that point... and over the course of the movie/trilogy... it shows how he grows, changes and becomes a better person.
DigitalFoundry found that on 4K max settings with DLSS performance enabled (1080p rendering) a 4090 can't push 60 fps. A 4090 can't handle 1080p max settings. Bravo, Ubisoft.
@@BobBobson the game scales and offers a huge variety of settings options; just because a game CAN overwhelm current HW does not make it badly optimized! Seriously, how are we ever going to get better looking games if everyone cries whenever something is released that pushes for graphical realism/dynamism! You want a game that looks ray traced but runs quickly then say hello to baked lighting and worlds that are static AF. I’m going to play this game now and push the realism to max in 4 years when I replay with a new GPU, that is pretty awesome!
Anyone else experience some flickering when out exploring? Inside cities it doesn't happen but I even noticed it in the pause screen out in the open world. Also under vram in the settings the max vram was flickering from like 14.8 and 14.9. 4080 super, 7800x3d 1440p high settings
Raytracing is required..... Kind of wonder how much did Nvidia pay the developers for that. Not touching this game at all until is less than 10$ on steam lol
...you do realize all of the current gen consoles have hardware RT support, right? Listen, I loved my 1070, but sometimes ya gotta know when to move on.
I have a 7900 GRE on a 7800X3D. The GRE is a great card for the money and with a simple OC it runs even closer to a 4070 Ti/S. I got the X3D for $350 and the GRE for $550 in 3/24. I highly recommend the GRE.
The reality is yes, you can afford a 1440p high refresh monitor as the prices have dropped. Now see if you can afford the GPU/CPU upgrades to play the same games you were playing at 1080p.
@@oswaldjh I've been playing games on a 1440p monitor with high refresh using a 2060, 3060, 4060 and a 6600x with no issues. They're each being used on Ryzen 5 x600x CPUs and no bottleneck. 4k on the other hand made them feel like they were using an Intel IGPU to play on a potato.
@@fatmanchew909 I have the cards you mention and consider them as 1080p, because that's what I put in family builds for that resolution. The 1440p users get a RX 6700 XT, a true 1440p card of which I have 4 models on the shelf.
it wasnt long ago 1080p as 95%, and almost all of the % lost in 1080 has gone to 1440p, so its tracking a trend. but yea, it would be cool to see specs specifically for each title on steam too at some point in the future.
Using a RTX 4070 Super and so fae so good. Saw a reddit saying to change the value of "streamer dedicated" option on the game config file and that helps with artifacting. Default value is 64 and recommended value is 4096. You can go higher or lower depending on vram utilization.
Nice to know my 3060 isn't a realistic gpu anymore. You know some of us would rather have oh you know utilities at our homes, food on our table, gas in the tank instead of the latest 40 series cards. And here I was excited last week to finally get a 5000 series cpu upgrade....saved for a long time. I feel so inadequate sometimes. Can barely afford my own hobby. Bit disappointing I got to say. I'm guessing my 3060 might do 45 to 50 fps....or maybe I'm dreaming even then?? Either way, I couldn't enjoy playing it like that, won't even try. Reality Bites... edit: next day. I apologize for my sarcasism, I could have said that much better and sounded less, well dumb. Despite that I got some pretty solid advice and I got a "game" plan (pun intended) and I'm going to stop being such a whiney be-ach in the future and make my points better. Sorry Jay, didn't mean to be disrespectful, I'm pretty striaght now. Geesh, the nerd in me gets so angry!
My 6950xt already feels dated. It struggles a lot in some titles. But it does not bother me anymore, since I have been playing indie and retro stuff for a long time now. Got a gamepad for my phone and replaying my favorite stuff from 3DS and PSone
@@fyrentinnimar Ok, I admit I was a bit whiney, yet I did have a point. Alot of us simply don't have the latest gpu's. I know mine will play it, but how bad would it be?? Or maybe it might surprise me and do ok, yet how would I know? How would you? We're left guessing, that sucks. I can't afford any of those cards he showed either. I got lucky getting this card. btw, I also had a 2070 super, I sold it to help get the 3060....not so sure it was actually worth it overall, there was some gains, but not as much as I had hoped, so ya....likely a stuttery mess as well here. Won't be downloading it not knowing either. My internet stinks..at least a 12 hr download and then I'd get charged for going over my 200 gb data cap, yay for me. Got screwed with Redfall, and got an extra 25-30 bucks on my internet bill. Ya, won't be making that mistake again. ouch!
I am so sick and tired of people talking trash about Star Wars and Ubisoft. Feels like when those two come together all the cave trolls meet up and lick their butts while moaning stuff like "dIsneY aM i riGHt" or "kAy veSs nOt HoT enOugH to jeRk my sMaLL pP wTf ubISoFt tRasH". Thank you for the analysis Jay and thank you for not being one of those guys. I'm having an awesome time playing this game and I can finally say that I am excited about the story which I wasn't for a long time. I always liked the worlds Ubisoft built but I wasn't invested in the characters. Thank god that has changed with Outlaws. I really hope they'll fix the artifacts and the wonky camera movement when using the landspeeder though. Oh and maaaybe they'll even add FSR 3.1 (please). Otherwise I have 0 complaints. PS: You gotta see the jungles of Akiva! Breathtaking.
It was 1978, my buddy's dad in gradeschool worked at Philips R&D on VCR's. First videotape I ever watched in my life was Star Wars: A New Hope. So, also a huge SW fan here... (year of birth is in my name). My SW toys were pre-built. None of that LEGO stuff. Also a huge fan of videogames (Atari 2600 and Philips G7000 were the first consoles I played games on). From the Amiga 500 and on, I have been building/modding my own systems. Never bought a pre-built PC. (Yes, ...I am that old). 7800X3D + RX6600 (yup, the nub card) + 32GB 6000MHz memory + Winblows 10 (on M.2 drives). Running @ LOW settings. Getting 73fps average according to AMD's metrics on a 1080P freesync panel. No artifacts or weirdness (which was there in your video) P.S. I'm in the "Han shot at the right moment" group of people. Or in the "Who cares when Han shot" group.
There is ABSOLUTELY no reason for any game, new, old or otherwise to be artefacting that badly. We shouldn't have to wait for a day 1 patch (or worse a patch months after release), to fix the most obvious bugs that should have been detected prior to launch.
Thank you Jay. I will be playing it during my weekend off of work until I go back to work this Saturday. Haven't had time to play due to working for Walmart. :)
I think there is a "universal truth" that all channels should take to heart. If you engage in polarizing topic, be prepared for a certain amount of backlash. Right now, we have tons of people that actively hate AAA scene, hate Ubisoft, hate Star Wars. No matter how great of a job will Jay do, there will be substantial amount of negativity around this video. If I received a proposition to benchmark some hardware against a specific title, or to have a look at said title and record a material on it, I'd look up first if this is not a title making fuss around the internet. IMHO, no need to expose yourself to negativity cause of one title that people may actively hate on at the time.
I have tons of fun with this game, but there's a VRAM leak that needs to be fixed. After an hour or two, VRAM usage surpasses the 24GB available on my 4090. Textures get blurry and meshes look lowpoly. Turning down the settings doesn't have any effect at all.
I’ve been a Star Wars fan ever since I saw the movies and read the Darth Bane novels, and I’m really excited to try this game when I finally get some free time. I generally don’t game that much, one of the last games I’ve played in its entirety was far cry 5. But the gameplay I’ve seen so far for Outlaws seems pretty cool. Glad to see my 6750xt should be able to handle the game.
Thank to you Jay for putting the effort in making this video, I'm watching it for you, however to answer the question in the title, I'm going to say no GPU will be needed to play this game since no one is going to play it. This is a game to be made fun of by everyone.
Ja this graph is WAY BETTER to visualize GPU performance than just the average, maybe an option to be used in future comparison in GPU releases? I know is way harder to plot and takes longer to test.
I`m on a Ryzen 5 5600X, RX 6800, 32GB RAM @ 3600 mt/s Playing on 1440p high preset, frame gen & FSR 3 on, raytracing on high @ around 100- ish fps I also noticed a few artifacts, but not as severe as in your video. Also this game is friggin" awesome!
"i dont own ubisoft games"---raging golden eagle Also raging golden eagle "moans about assassins creed / star wars game franchise" ( pssst in case you havent noticed, they are also ubisoft) Stop it with the fake outrage and listen to ACG. Most games that stupid youtubers comment on negatively arent bad. except if it comes from bethesda.
I'm comfortable with not owning any Ubisoft games because technically they won't let me buy them. Only license them. I want a copy that doesn't break when they can't be arsed to stop killing games.
6:02 With FSR 3.0 in Cod, frame generation gives me double the frames, without loss of quality, and no input lag added. In Star Ship Troopers : Extermination , when i had the nvidia software frame rate limiter on at 120 fps, the frame gen caused heavy input lag. As soon as i turned the frame rate limiter off, that input lag was gone. What i mean is, frame gen is not causing input lag. There might be something else it doesn't like, something it is confronted with, you know.
Yes you can use FSR 3.0 frame generation with Nvidia cards, from 20 series on. Try that for no additional input lag at all. 10:13 The DLSS didn't learn enough yet 🤣 .
Remember, Greedo had his blaster pointed at Han. Han shot Greedo first. Greedo’s blaster then went off after he got shot. Hence blaster mark on the wall.
My man ACG deemed it a "Wait for a sale" so I'm gonna wait for a sale. It seems like a good game but for $70 right at launch, I need great or excellent. Thanks for the video Jay! Appreciate your hard work!
Six and a half minutes in… It SOUNDS like English, and I understood most of the words, but somehow it was still mostly Greek in the end. When it comes to an in-depth working knowledge of computer performance, the universe of hardware and software settings that affect it, and the impact on gaming of all kinds…. this man is the OG computer nerd encyclopedia. He has forgotten more than most of us will ever know.
Lower settings might have more baked in lighting and the LOD texture swapping might not kick in until your camera gets much closer to the subject. It also could be the dynamic lighting effects as characters move around you should be comparing.
Since some people here seem to have a 4" thick skull, I had no dealings with Ubisoft for this video. The sponsor was NZXT who also has no connection with Ubisoft.
I felt I made that pretty clear but then again I didn't write it in crayon so maybe it missed the mark.
People are just upset you didn’t bury the game 6 feet deep like other channels have. How dare you not align with the sheep Jay!! Great video as always. Hope I run into you at the Tustin store sometime.
😂😂😂
I find anything hard to understand that isn’t in neon purple from Crayola.
if you add "-unlockmaxsettings" as a start parameter in the Ubisoft launcher you get a HIDDEN GRAPHICS PRESET CALLED "OUTLAW" that (obviously) max'es out the graphics settings......
too bad I only have a 6650XT and not a 4090 because I would LOVE to see this!!! So being that you HAVE a 4090 I hope you read thi8s, and TRY IT OUT!!! :D
Jay you know I can't read come on bro
Han not only shot first, he was the only one to shoot. George Lucas changed it like 3 times every time he released a new version. But in the 1977 theatrical release...he just plain murdered him and Greedo never even pulled the trigger.
How can you murder someone that's holding you at gunpoint? They're threatening you with lethal force. Han was perfectly justified in shooting him.
Han... shot.... first !
@@gregnapier1181 greedos blaster went off once han shot him so yes greedo also fired a shot
Greedo was a criminal. He would have shot and killed Han if Han didn't shoot first. He got wat he deserved, nothing more nothing less. Period.
@@thedutchfisherman7078 Greedo was supposedly to be a bounty hunter.
I saw it in the theatre at the age of 12 in 1977. Han shot. Greedo died. There was no 'first'. There was only one shot.
Exactly! (I was 6, in '78, when I saw it)
Who cares
@@Mark_Rai who?
@@marsMayflower😂😂😂
@@marsMayflower i see 4 people so far
watching this entire video with 0 intentions of touching this game
Same. I imagine I'd have no problem running this in ultrawide with a 12700k/3080.
Thank you for using your brain. They deserve no dollars for that debauchery, it should be free-to-play. Then it would be funny and it wouldn't of been an issue.
I came here for the comments. So much hate for Ubisoft.
@@Jdmorris143As it should be.
@@Jdmorris143deserved tbh
Hey Jay ... there are still a lot of us out there that are using 30 series and will be for quite some time
That's nice, you got any Grapes?
Well, i still run a 1070 ti :D
@@jackwiedemannsame xD
2070 here and not a ton of artifacting but also 30fps 3440x1440
Still having my trusty old 970 strix here😅 a 30 series whould be luxurious indeed
Han didn't shoot "first" - he was the only one to shoot.
who... cares
@@marsMayflower Obviously you do since you keep posting that.
@@ThisSteveGuy who. cares.
@@marsMayflower Are you done?
@@ThisSteveGuy maybe. maybe not.
So as an OG Star Wars fan myself, I'm super triggered by all the "Wukong" comments lol....
In all seriousness I really couldn't care less what games people are in to, we showed the performance between 6 different GPUs and y'all can do with that info whatever you want.
As for Wukong, I haven't tested the game "yet" but that doesn't mean it won't happen.
Serious question.... why are gamers so whiny?
Because they have nothing else going on in their lives
I think people are tired of these companies putting out mediocre and unfinished games that are anti consumer
because they are sick of being served slop that costs more and gives less while expected to smile for the "experience"
Gamers are a terminally online bunch. I don't give a toss about Black Myth Wukong.
I feel like gamers have alway been whiny and vocal.
Han didn't shoot first. Han was the only one who shot
None because the game isnt worth it
Was gonna comment the exact same thing until i saw your comment🔥
It's alright. TO ME
Clicked on video just for comments about ubiwoke
@@MrCiulpedra 🤡
Does it suck? Like is the gameplay garbage?
I've been playing it since the 27th and I'm absolutely loving it. I'm using a Ryzen 5800X and an RX7600, it's running at medium settings due to a crash that would happen consistently when run at high, but I've had little or no artifacting and have FSR on.
I honestly can imagine a promo for this game on your channel Phil popping it head around the door jam saying "Jay... Jay... Jaaaaaaayyyyy..." and then cutting to the scene where Darth Vader's chamber opens and a distorted, crackly and heavily breathed Jay replying with "Whhhhaaat?!" before Phil says "We go work to do" followed by Nick adding "Yeah"
Yes, with Jay As Darth Helmet. 🤣
Start of the video "this game requires RT and will suck on older hardware, may be one of the first titles to force a hardware upgrade"
End of the video "this game does very well on low end hardware, not one of those titles that will make people run out and upgrade"
Yeah, because it actually surprised us... but about that artifacting....
Sad to see, even on the best benchmark components you had
Lol the sponsorship money is hard at work here...
It was a sponsored video but not by Ubisoft. And he was fairly critical of all the artifacting he was getting in game even on high-end cards, you usually don't see that in sponsored content. I was just confused by the change in perspective. Perhaps it's just cause I know many people that still have 10 series cards that I still consider them part of the low end, but it is 3 gens old, maybe that's just too outdated of me and "low end" now is at least 20 series with RT cores, and the 10 series are now whatever below "low end" is.
@@Jayztwocents I don't get those artifacts. First time seeing it. I run msi 4090, 7950x3d, 64gb ram and have secret settings at max in 4k. dlss performance with frame gen on. path tracing to max as well. Frames can jump up to around 80 or 90 indoors but outside in the world hovers around 60, lowest I've seen was 50.
u remember Jedi Knight Dark Forces 2? From the late 90s. Had full online like deathmatch games. best star wars game ever
@@theMedicatedCitizen I still play Rebellion. It's such a good game. And X-Wing Alliance has a huge graphical overhaul mod that makes it look fantastic.
Dark Forces 2 had the best gunplay in the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series for sure.
Jedi Academy had the best saber combat (although Jedi Outcast was the one who massively innovated with it). You'd think it'd have the best gunplay too, but for some reason, when Raven made the transition to the idTech3 engine, they did a shit job with most of the guns.
@@arnox4554 I loooooved the deathmatch games. It's where I first started modding, so I could get cool lightsaber blades.
About the artefacts and visual bugs, could really be because this game is meant to be played with the cinematic aspect ratio, saw a Daniel Owen video just few days ago, where he explains it and shows show just switching from the meant cinematic ratio to the "commom" one drops your fps like crazy, also shows you a lot less of the environment on the screen, give it a try to see if it makes any difference at all
I have over 20 hours so far in this game, and I don’t have any of those artifacting issues at all. I have a 12700k, 7900xtx, 32gb 5200mhz ddr5, 4tb sata ssd and I play at 4k.
I have watched you for years and i appreciate all you have done for the pc community
0 this trash is no worth the energy
I really love the graph showing all the GPS together with your voice over. Nickelback approved!
Is Concord up next? 😂
Concord has uninstalled itself
LOL
Yo, not like this lol
Concord has been pulled and those who bought it were to be issued refunds.
Never knew you were a big Star Wars fan, Jay.. Respect.
I’m a Star Wars fan “dork” as well, I’m into 1/24 scale plastic model kits, I built Millennium Falcon, Snow Speeder and Luke’s X-Wing as well. I’m also trying to complete the Deagostini Millennium Falcon complete with lightning. So I know how you are passionate about Star Wars.
Clever single shadow from a planet with two suns….
That's what it looks like in the films, my dude
Wukong comes out, breaks every record known to man: Skips
Terrible Ubisoft copy & paste game comes out: HOW MUCH GPU DO YOU NEED for this 2014 lookin ahh game
Sponsor moment
Ironic you say that considering the game structure of Wukong screams 2010. Not necessarily a bad thing buit its semi linear layout withinvisible walls every way is PS3/X360 Gen.
@@TheCocomunges Open world games are overrated. It's rarely well done, often just too much empty space. Skyrim, witch 3 and Elden Ring.
Doesn't that game need a 4090 to play it without upscaling at a comfortable framerate? That doesnt exactly scream optimization.
Last game i've played from ubisoft was AC Black Flag when this company was actually good but i believe all Ubisoft games nowadays is "Clear the Outpost and capture the communication tower", please say if i am right.
It's good that more games have path tracing as an option since that will eventually lead to better implementation and hardware improvements but it's hardly worth the performance hit these days, even with the best hardware. For game settings in general, personally i have never cared too much about really high shadow quality. It has always benn one of the graphics settings i always turned down or off entirely in favor of higher framerates. Shadows have always cost a lot of performance in games
I need to be paid to waste my time on that trash.
So you’re making an opinion without playing it. So your opinion doesn’t matter. Noted.
@@samlevi4744 Yea braghhh just becuase no one is buying it allready discounted and ubisofts stock hasent fallen shakabraghhh.
@@samlevi4744 the old "if you dont give us money your opinion doesnt matter" argument its as if the marketing failed to garner customers
I saw it was free with a 14900k on newegg but I waited a day too late to buy and didn't get the game. Now I'm sitting here like.... did I really miss out on anything?
@@samlevi4744< Here comes the Ubisoft fangirls 🤡🤣
Ok so I run the 6950xt and the 5800x3d right and I get a lot of the consistency as the 6750xt and 4060, higher fps but way more steady, honestly preferred. I do run the 1440 on high, same preset. I really want to upgrade GPU's being a PC guy but, in all honesty, the 6950xt has never let me down in a title yet. AND the 5800x3d people complain and say oh that chip is old and blah blah blah, which if they knew what they were talking about they wouldn't say that, but it has 0 problems with current titles. This is a great example of how good the "older" GPUs are. Awesome video. Drew.
Honestly one of the worst things about the internet is games releasing with bugs & most larger developers are just "oh yeah we didn't have time to sort before release, we'll patch it soon"
Worse than that are the apologists who crop up and insult you for noticing something's broken and gaslighting you into believing you're the issue.
Hi Jay!!!
Your issue is with the publishers, not the devs
@@krisiscove you’re right was half asleep when I commented so had brain fog
Thank you so much! My 4080 super was only getting 80-90 fps in 1440p. After changing the settings its up in the 120-150 range. I feel much better now!!!
Han was the only one who shot!!!
I played about an hour of it (did NOT buy the game, just got ubisoft+ and swiftly canceled it) until it kept crashing when i went to a certain area. It did it twice, and i uninstalled it, and the ubisoft app. Not dealing with that shit
sounds like a issue on your end, not had a single crash
@TheBuildBench I'm o. A 7800x3d and a 4090 so it better not be lol
@@TheDethsight the artifacting is clearly a ubisoft issue, ive had that, but i had i think 1 crash when climbing and thats only using a RX6800
-10 for using Ubisoft+
Have the same problem on 2 different pcs... Game crashes not stop. So frustrating.
i7-14700k, 4070S, artifacts didn't appear on the first planet nor the snow town, but they started on Tatooine. They continued when I got to the forest planet and I'm starting to crash on the forest planet too, mostly when quick traveling. Got 38 hours before I had any problems. I am enjoying it though. Thanks for not making me panic, I've been worried my 3 month old card was faulty.
Hans is the only one who shot.
I'm running an MSI Raider GE78HX 13VH-070US 17" Gaming Laptop Computer, Intel Core i9 13950HX (1.6GHz) Processor,
32GB DDR5-4800 RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Graphics Card, came with a 2tb SSD that I swapped out for a WD Black SN850X 4TB 112L 3D TLC NAND Flash PCIe Gen 4 x4 NVMe M.2 for OS and main drive, then added for fun, the Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus SSD 8TB NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 as my secondary/game storage drive. With Ubisoft and Massive going in on Star Wars Outlaws I took the chance on a day one purchase, and so far have not regretted buying the game day one. Runs perfectly on my laptop, happy with the game so far. Soo glad to finally see a Star Wars game NOT screwed up by EA/Dice, because they had nothing to do with Star Wars Outlaws.
😂😂😂😂😂 Stop the cap!! 😂
Greedo never used his weapon. han killed him BEFORE it could happen because han distracted him by talking to hum :
- Han : "Yeah... i bet you have"
BANG!
It says a lot when I'm more interested in the stats than the game itself.
But it's pretty cool
the rtx requirement is one of the dumbest things ive heard being required for a game. like i dont really care about the game but it sets a horrible president for future games if someone cant afford hardware that can play it, like the last time i got angry about a hardware limitation was when 3.5 mm headphone jacks were removed from phones.
I kinda makes sense though. RT has been a feature on cards for years, so cards that are completely incapable of doing it are kinda dying out slowly but surely.
It also makes development easier, saves time and thus money for the studios while (mostly) looking better IF the hardware can support it.
Hate it all you want, it's the future of gaming at this point.
@@Kr0noZ my question then is mobile chips like zen 4 chips for AMD and Intel xe chips, will those be supported? I don't think they have rt on them and those are being used for mobile gaming, if rt is required it's going to really affect the mobile market
I'm still amazed just how close RDNA 3 and Ada are
How much GPU do we need? EASY
NON
Because you shouldn't play it
Save your money for other games
If you like it. play it. simple.
@@Erc294we're not IGN. Game sucks.
At least save your money to speculate the requirements to a big future title like GTA 6 or even Half Life 3 (If it is real).
Based gamers will rather play Wukong at 25 fps than Ubislop product at 144 fps
I just ran across your video on SW outlaws, I have been playing since it dropped. My PC specs are ASUS x670E-E MB, AMD 7800X3D, Sapphire Nirto + RX 7900 XTX, 64 GB ram (just because I can), BeQuiet! 360 cooler with the GPU air cooled. I will say before I used the settings that you showed in the video I did get some artifacting at times. Since I used the settings I have not seen any of that and it is running very smooth. There was an update today when I logged on as well but I have not checked the notes to see what was updated in that patch. Awesome video thank you for showing us how to get better results when playing this title, awesome work and video as always.
HaHa, so update the longer I played the more artificating I saw; however it did depend on the location I was in and the activity I was doing at the time. It was much like what you saw when running around in the settlements or towns.
Devs no longer believe in QA testing nor Optimization
Not when they can just use Everyones favor upsacler D.L.S.S.
I recently watched the 4k77 version of a new hope, only Han shoots.
So the meme should be "Only Han Shot"
we need better companies making star wars games Ubisoft is a horrible company and EA isn't much better
I liked the testing done for this video. I'm shocked by many of the results as you were. Also, that NXZT Flex thing is neat.
I think that games should be tested mainly without upscaling. I hate when it is used at a default.
It reminds me of a discussion about cars: a ferrari with 800hp can drive on the road but if it's limited at 130km/h it doesn't run better os as well as an average car, seems the same thing for GFX card, game is the type off road (not finished here? lol) and the GFX cards are the cars. A bit funny analogy here =) Good video as always.
This video is more interesting then the game, which is why I'm not touching it. Tired of being ubishafted.
Not true
Would love to see what those lower end cards would do in lower resolution. 1080p is still the most popular resolution on Steam these days.
Damn ppl really hate this game
I think it's a split between this game being trash, Ubisoft being trash, and Sweet Baby, Inc being a subversive piece of trash.
Its basically just hogwarts legacy with a star wars skin. Dont get why hogwarts legacy did so well when the game play are basically the same.
if you played it you will know why.
Because they need to cry about something.
Because its a bad game
" im a little bit of a dork..." Jay... we knew this, that's why were here and like the passion you have
I have a 7900X3D with a Zotac 4080 Super and 64GB of 6000MT/s DDR5.
I have noticed the artifacting and some funny bugs from time to time. But otherwise it runs really well.
There's a very good reason why Han killed greedo... it's about his character at that point... and over the course of the movie/trilogy... it shows how he grows, changes and becomes a better person.
Ouch, the comments section is a roast show!
People know that saying bad things about a game they haven’t even played gets them free likes
@@TheShape78-dl8qg Exactly! The negativity is crazy. Lol.
@TheShape78-dl8qg you dont need to touch garbage to see garbage
I'm sure everyone complaining about the games will also be first in line to buy the game.
Yea people have to hate on everything it seems unfortunately
I applaud the new graphs!
The Death Star must be completed on time.
But the Emperor asks too much, Jay needs more men.
Or maybe he should double his efforts.
this is soooo helpful, thanks Jay!
DigitalFoundry found that on 4K max settings with DLSS performance enabled (1080p rendering) a 4090 can't push 60 fps.
A 4090 can't handle 1080p max settings. Bravo, Ubisoft.
That's pretty wild.
**Shivers in 7900xt**
If the top card can’t do that then it’s the developers fault 🤷🏻♂️
Ubisoft is terrible at PC optimization.
Mean while black myth on unreal 5
@@BobBobson the game scales and offers a huge variety of settings options; just because a game CAN overwhelm current HW does not make it badly optimized! Seriously, how are we ever going to get better looking games if everyone cries whenever something is released that pushes for graphical realism/dynamism! You want a game that looks ray traced but runs quickly then say hello to baked lighting and worlds that are static AF. I’m going to play this game now and push the realism to max in 4 years when I replay with a new GPU, that is pretty awesome!
Anyone else experience some flickering when out exploring? Inside cities it doesn't happen but I even noticed it in the pause screen out in the open world. Also under vram in the settings the max vram was flickering from like 14.8 and 14.9. 4080 super, 7800x3d 1440p high settings
Raytracing is required..... Kind of wonder how much did Nvidia pay the developers for that. Not touching this game at all until is less than 10$ on steam lol
Should guarantee you have an RT capable card by then aswell so win win.
...you do realize all of the current gen consoles have hardware RT support, right?
Listen, I loved my 1070, but sometimes ya gotta know when to move on.
Ray tracing is required because that's how the lighting is done and its how all games will be done going forward.
That's why I bought the infamous nvidia cards... ya move with the tech, not the other way around.
Raytracing is not Nvidia only.
I have a 7900 GRE on a 7800X3D. The GRE is a great card for the money and with a simple OC it runs even closer to a 4070 Ti/S. I got the X3D for $350 and the GRE for $550 in 3/24. I highly recommend the GRE.
Chromatic and film grain first things to be turned off
Coffee and funny Jay stuff first thing in the morning, It's a good day!
1440 is only 19% on steam hardware survey where 1080 is 56%.
The reality is yes, you can afford a 1440p high refresh monitor as the prices have dropped.
Now see if you can afford the GPU/CPU upgrades to play the same games you were playing at 1080p.
@@oswaldjh I've been playing games on a 1440p monitor with high refresh using a 2060, 3060, 4060 and a 6600x with no issues. They're each being used on Ryzen 5 x600x CPUs and no bottleneck. 4k on the other hand made them feel like they were using an Intel IGPU to play on a potato.
@@fatmanchew909 I have the cards you mention and consider them as 1080p, because that's what I put in family builds for that resolution. The 1440p users get a RX 6700 XT, a true 1440p card of which I have 4 models on the shelf.
He also said 1080p is 1/4th of 1440p. He probably meant 4K, but saying that in the video is misleading as hell.
it wasnt long ago 1080p as 95%, and almost all of the % lost in 1080 has gone to 1440p, so its tracking a trend. but yea, it would be cool to see specs specifically for each title on steam too at some point in the future.
Using a RTX 4070 Super and so fae so good. Saw a reddit saying to change the value of "streamer dedicated" option on the game config file and that helps with artifacting. Default value is 64 and recommended value is 4096. You can go higher or lower depending on vram utilization.
Nice to know my 3060 isn't a realistic gpu anymore. You know some of us would rather have oh you know utilities at our homes, food on our table, gas in the tank instead of the latest 40 series cards. And here I was excited last week to finally get a 5000 series cpu upgrade....saved for a long time. I feel so inadequate sometimes. Can barely afford my own hobby. Bit disappointing I got to say. I'm guessing my 3060 might do 45 to 50 fps....or maybe I'm dreaming even then?? Either way, I couldn't enjoy playing it like that, won't even try. Reality Bites... edit: next day. I apologize for my sarcasism, I could have said that much better and sounded less, well dumb. Despite that I got some pretty solid advice and I got a "game" plan (pun intended) and I'm going to stop being such a whiney be-ach in the future and make my points better. Sorry Jay, didn't mean to be disrespectful, I'm pretty striaght now. Geesh, the nerd in me gets so angry!
This. So much this.
And i was wondering what it was going to be like on my 2070 Super. seems like a stuttering mess.
You will realize sooner or later that chasing AAA titles is a dead end.
My 6950xt already feels dated. It struggles a lot in some titles. But it does not bother me anymore, since I have been playing indie and retro stuff for a long time now. Got a gamepad for my phone and replaying my favorite stuff from 3DS and PSone
@@fyrentinnimar Ok, I admit I was a bit whiney, yet I did have a point. Alot of us simply don't have the latest gpu's. I know mine will play it, but how bad would it be?? Or maybe it might surprise me and do ok, yet how would I know? How would you? We're left guessing, that sucks. I can't afford any of those cards he showed either. I got lucky getting this card. btw, I also had a 2070 super, I sold it to help get the 3060....not so sure it was actually worth it overall, there was some gains, but not as much as I had hoped, so ya....likely a stuttery mess as well here. Won't be downloading it not knowing either. My internet stinks..at least a 12 hr download and then I'd get charged for going over my 200 gb data cap, yay for me. Got screwed with Redfall, and got an extra 25-30 bucks on my internet bill. Ya, won't be making that mistake again. ouch!
Nice to see another Star Wars fan, i have an amazing collection of Star Wars Merchandise
How much GPU do i need for SW Outlaws?
Easy answer: ZERO, cuz i ain't touching this crap.
I am so sick and tired of people talking trash about Star Wars and Ubisoft. Feels like when those two come together all the cave trolls meet up and lick their butts while moaning stuff like "dIsneY aM i riGHt" or "kAy veSs nOt HoT enOugH to jeRk my sMaLL pP wTf ubISoFt tRasH".
Thank you for the analysis Jay and thank you for not being one of those guys. I'm having an awesome time playing this game and I can finally say that I am excited about the story which I wasn't for a long time. I always liked the worlds Ubisoft built but I wasn't invested in the characters. Thank god that has changed with Outlaws.
I really hope they'll fix the artifacts and the wonky camera movement when using the landspeeder though. Oh and maaaybe they'll even add FSR 3.1 (please). Otherwise I have 0 complaints.
PS: You gotta see the jungles of Akiva! Breathtaking.
Lol I just read through the comments 😂 I love it.
It was 1978, my buddy's dad in gradeschool worked at Philips R&D on VCR's. First videotape I ever watched in my life was Star Wars: A New Hope. So, also a huge SW fan here... (year of birth is in my name). My SW toys were pre-built. None of that LEGO stuff.
Also a huge fan of videogames (Atari 2600 and Philips G7000 were the first consoles I played games on). From the Amiga 500 and on, I have been building/modding my own systems. Never bought a pre-built PC. (Yes, ...I am that old).
7800X3D + RX6600 (yup, the nub card) + 32GB 6000MHz memory + Winblows 10 (on M.2 drives). Running @ LOW settings. Getting 73fps average according to AMD's metrics on a 1080P freesync panel. No artifacts or weirdness (which was there in your video)
P.S. I'm in the "Han shot at the right moment" group of people. Or in the "Who cares when Han shot" group.
Have some respect for your GPU and don't benchmark this trash.
There is ABSOLUTELY no reason for any game, new, old or otherwise to be artefacting that badly. We shouldn't have to wait for a day 1 patch (or worse a patch months after release), to fix the most obvious bugs that should have been detected prior to launch.
I found this video has informative value, even if I don't play Star Wars: Outlaws. Thanks Jay
Thank you Jay. I will be playing it during my weekend off of work until I go back to work this Saturday. Haven't had time to play due to working for Walmart. :)
Why benchmark digital poop? Did Ubisoft sponsor this video?
What's next? Benchmarking Dustborn?
Minesweeper
Or Concord…
@@mccellenlol4163won't be anything to benchmark in about two days.
I was really looking forward to the Concord benchmarks dang..
@@thecman26 Don't you dare insult minesweeper, it is a fun game and it is free.
I think there is a "universal truth" that all channels should take to heart. If you engage in polarizing topic, be prepared for a certain amount of backlash. Right now, we have tons of people that actively hate AAA scene, hate Ubisoft, hate Star Wars. No matter how great of a job will Jay do, there will be substantial amount of negativity around this video.
If I received a proposition to benchmark some hardware against a specific title, or to have a look at said title and record a material on it, I'd look up first if this is not a title making fuss around the internet. IMHO, no need to expose yourself to negativity cause of one title that people may actively hate on at the time.
I have tons of fun with this game, but there's a VRAM leak that needs to be fixed. After an hour or two, VRAM usage surpasses the 24GB available on my 4090. Textures get blurry and meshes look lowpoly. Turning down the settings doesn't have any effect at all.
Same!
The only thing that I notice is certain things get ghosty. This is on a 7900 XTX.
I’ve been a Star Wars fan ever since I saw the movies and read the Darth Bane novels, and I’m really excited to try this game when I finally get some free time. I generally don’t game that much, one of the last games I’ve played in its entirety was far cry 5. But the gameplay I’ve seen so far for Outlaws seems pretty cool. Glad to see my 6750xt should be able to handle the game.
Hahahahah
Thank to you Jay for putting the effort in making this video, I'm watching it for you, however to answer the question in the title, I'm going to say no GPU will be needed to play this game since no one is going to play it.
This is a game to be made fun of by everyone.
Ja this graph is WAY BETTER to visualize GPU performance than just the average, maybe an option to be used in future comparison in GPU releases? I know is way harder to plot and takes longer to test.
0 GPU. not worth it!
This was really interesting breakdown on this game. Might play it later on when it's on sale and the bugs are fixed.
90 dollars for bace edition is fucking wild for any game let alone a quarter baked peace of shit😂
Watch out DF, Jay is doing some serious in-depth visual quality test.
Watching the video just because its you but the game is meh
That be cool to see a couple tricks to make older games play better on PC
I`m on a Ryzen 5 5600X, RX 6800, 32GB RAM @ 3600 mt/s
Playing on 1440p high preset, frame gen & FSR 3 on, raytracing on high @ around 100- ish fps
I also noticed a few artifacts, but not as severe as in your video. Also this game is friggin" awesome!
I'm pretty comfortable not owning any Ubisoft games.
Good to see you here, RGE
Yep! Not interesting at buying anything from Ubishit
"i dont own ubisoft games"---raging golden eagle
Also raging golden eagle "moans about assassins creed / star wars game franchise" ( pssst in case you havent noticed, they are also ubisoft)
Stop it with the fake outrage and listen to ACG. Most games that stupid youtubers comment on negatively arent bad. except if it comes from bethesda.
Well said
@@AndreasScout Get lost, Ubishit fan girl 🤡🤣
I'm comfortable with not owning any Ubisoft games because technically they won't let me buy them. Only license them. I want a copy that doesn't break when they can't be arsed to stop killing games.
6:02 With FSR 3.0 in Cod, frame generation gives me double the frames, without loss of quality, and no input lag added.
In Star Ship Troopers : Extermination , when i had the nvidia software frame rate limiter on at 120 fps, the frame gen caused heavy input lag.
As soon as i turned the frame rate limiter off, that input lag was gone.
What i mean is, frame gen is not causing input lag. There might be something else it doesn't like, something it is confronted with, you know.
Yes you can use FSR 3.0 frame generation with Nvidia cards, from 20 series on.
Try that for no additional input lag at all.
10:13 The DLSS didn't learn enough yet 🤣 .
Remember, Greedo had his blaster pointed at Han.
Han shot Greedo first.
Greedo’s blaster then went off after he got shot.
Hence blaster mark on the wall.
in this game you'd have to shoot Greedo five times in the head
Not in the original 😊
My man ACG deemed it a "Wait for a sale" so I'm gonna wait for a sale. It seems like a good game but for $70 right at launch, I need great or excellent.
Thanks for the video Jay! Appreciate your hard work!
So it's not only a terrible game it also gaslights you into thinking your GPU is kicking the bucket. Good job Massive/Ubisoft.
Not getting this game for a while yet, but I will, can't resist a Star Wars game!
13:55
"I don't give a $#!+ who shot first."
- Harrison Ford
😂
😂😂😂 apparently he isn’t paying attention
nice to see a game review with real hardware case usages we dont get too much of that normally...
Buy Ryzen 4070, don't buy Outlaws. Wait for Space Marine 2
Agreed, I just bought a Radeon 7900XT and AMD gave me a free copy Space Maine2.
@@txDDS nice :)
@@txDDS That's awesome!
That game does look sweet!!
Six and a half minutes in… It SOUNDS like English, and I understood most of the words, but somehow it was still mostly Greek in the end. When it comes to an in-depth working knowledge of computer performance, the universe of hardware and software settings that affect it, and the impact on gaming of all kinds…. this man is the OG computer nerd encyclopedia. He has forgotten more than most of us will ever know.
Im just glad to have the content to watch while I do some chores. Thank you for the vid! ……Regardless of Disney/star wars sucking hard.
:(
Lower settings might have more baked in lighting and the LOD texture swapping might not kick in until your camera gets much closer to the subject. It also could be the dynamic lighting effects as characters move around you should be comparing.
I'd rather use the electricity and GPU for something else
I love star wars too!
My specs are i9-9900k 4090 64gb 1000w 16tb+
4k 144hz outlaw settings dlss quality, fg. 100-120 fps
Imagine buying a GPU based on it's performance in Star Wars Outlaws.. That's a bad financial decision if I ever seen one.