I did this to my 14060M with a service clasp as well. Another option if you don't want to do any cutting/riveting is just reverse the clasp and wear it upside down. It feels wierd at first but you get used to it.
Amazing video, thanks a lot of sharing! I have bought a submariner 16610 myself and have the exact same problem. I am however wondering what exactly you told your AD to get that clasp, as many AD's tend to be very weary selling such parts in general.
Hi I need help picking up my Rolex my grandfather has three rolexes he has three grandchildren I'm away in a different state and he's going to ship one off to me he said I get to pick first I'm looking at a 24mm Rolex oyster my wrist is a just passing a little bit of 6 do you think the 24mm would fit I have been looking for the reference number and it all says size 6 to 7 the 36 mm is 6.25 wrist size the numbers don't make any sense to me the reference number on this Rolex reference number is 76193 please get back to me and let me know if it would work thanks
Are you sure it is safe just to attach the clasp directly to that hollow center link on the fourth link. I've seen posts where that hollow center link gets worn out because of the friction. I think you need some sort of sleeve around the rivet of the clasp which you have on that end link. What is your take on this?
Good point, I trusted my watchmaker on this (whether to use a sleeve or not, honestly I don’t know what he did). However so far I had no issues and I had it like that for a couple of years now.
@@watchyouare Thanks for your reply. I've had my 14060M for quite some years now and the skewed clasp drives me crazy. Still trying to figure out the best possible solution. Keep posting videos - You've got an interesting channel to follow :)
Is there a more detailed description in the internet i can use to explain my watch maker what exactly he is required to do? Also, any experience with the ad that says the clasp is replacement only, i.e. they want to keep the original?
I dont think so, maybe you‘ll find something in the rolexforums, otherwise I would just show him the video. For the AD, it might be worth trying a different one or in a different country
Nice video. I have a 7inch wrist. 4 links on 6 hr side and 7 on the 12 with micro adjust the way up on u 214270. I don’t like 5 links on the 6hr side cause it makes the clasp end look weird on wrist.
Thanks for the informative video as always. I wanted to ask: where can I get presentation gloves (to prevent scratches and so on) in Switzerland? Thanks and Best Regards
Hello, I have a Submariner 16610, and my wrist size is small. Can you help me? How can I make the bracelet smaller, or how to remove the small link? Regards
@@hammadalajmi6164 it‘s the same procedure for the 16610, you have an independent watchmaker remove the „middle link“ and attach/rivet the clasp directly to the bracelet
My wrist is 15.5cm. Thats really hard to say, I would say 16.5-17cm but that‘s just a guess. Sometimes flipping the bracelet (attaching the 6 o‘clock side at 12 and vice versa) can also help.
I’m sorry, but before you start destroying permalinks, just try reversing your bracelet. It centers the inner clasp just fine on my 14060M and 16710 SEL just fine. You’ll forget about it after a day, and nobody really scrutinizes a clasp direction anyhow. BONUS: It’s smoother when reversed and less likely to snag or show wear
@@watchyouare@5:30 you slide the bottom clasp to center on your wrist and it STILL pushes the watch head to the top edge away from your wrist - and that’s with your four links. I literally own both of these watches and the only solution was to reverse the clasp so that it sits flush and in the middle of your wrist while the watch head is centered on your wrist as well. I destroyed an EXP II Polar by removing a permalink and it still didn’t sit in the middle and swore off Rolex ever again. Ten years later I bought a 14060 M at a good price and reversed the clasp and voila! It solved the issue without removing permalinks. Also, I disagree that a six-digit is better for smaller wrists since the watch head is much heavier as is the bracelet. It’s very top-heavy for a smaller wrist and much more likely to porpoise. The “micro adjustment” is equal to an entire link so you’ll either have a very loose and heavy watch or one that is cinched down so tight as to be intolerable. Very nice collection tho!
@@watchyouare mine is 15cm. I was offered a Batman and am debating on if I can pull it off or not. The GMT looks fine on yours and yours is very slightly larger so maybe I'll be ok
@@shihabmalek3780 The 126710 wears very different from the 16710, so I would not take that as a reference. Also it‘s about the shape of your wrist, not just the absolute circumference. Definitely try it on if you haven‘t already. Hope it works out
@@watchyouare why so different? Only difference in size I see is the thicker lugs of the current watch. From my understanding, besides that, the proportions are the same. But yes, I will try it on
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Great info! Thank you from a small wrist dude with these watches.
Great video. I wish all watch dealers knew this. ⭐️
Love your attention to detail! Very, very helpful
I did this to my 14060M with a service clasp as well. Another option if you don't want to do any cutting/riveting is just reverse the clasp and wear it upside down. It feels wierd at first but you get used to it.
Great video. Seems like taking one link out at the 6 o’clock is the way.
Amazing video, thanks a lot of sharing! I have bought a submariner 16610 myself and have the exact same problem. I am however wondering what exactly you told your AD to get that clasp, as many AD's tend to be very weary selling such parts in general.
Brilliant video, my dad has gifted me that exact submariner but i cant seem to find someone in the UK to do this :(
I always enjoy the minutiae of your channel.
Hi I need help picking up my Rolex my grandfather has three rolexes he has three grandchildren I'm away in a different state and he's going to ship one off to me he said I get to pick first I'm looking at a 24mm Rolex oyster my wrist is a just passing a little bit of 6 do you think the 24mm would fit I have been looking for the reference number and it all says size 6 to 7 the 36 mm is 6.25 wrist size the numbers don't make any sense to me the reference number on this Rolex reference number is 76193 please get back to me and let me know if it would work thanks
What’s the clasp code for that replacement?
This is comparing apples to oranges. Why not have all equal links on both watches for comparison?
I’m interested in doing this to my 14060m. I assume your watchmaker said they can put the original clasp back on if you want in the future?
You can definitely have the rivet removed again and put on a replacement clasp
Are you sure it is safe just to attach the clasp directly to that hollow center link on the fourth link. I've seen posts where that hollow center link gets worn out because of the friction. I think you need some sort of sleeve around the rivet of the clasp which you have on that end link. What is your take on this?
Good point, I trusted my watchmaker on this (whether to use a sleeve or not, honestly I don’t know what he did). However so far I had no issues and I had it like that for a couple of years now.
@@watchyouare Thanks for your reply. I've had my 14060M for quite some years now and the skewed clasp drives me crazy. Still trying to figure out the best possible solution.
Keep posting videos - You've got an interesting channel to follow :)
@@MrStenum Thanks :) I know the feeling, had mine for 12 years now and went for this I think 3 years or so ago, did the job for me :)
@@watchyouare I'm impressed you lasted 9 years with a bracelet like that ;)
I suppose you went for the same solution on your 16710?
@@MrStenum #metoo 😄 yes indeed, I‘m completely convinced of this „solution“.
Is there a more detailed description in the internet i can use to explain my watch maker what exactly he is required to do? Also, any experience with the ad that says the clasp is replacement only, i.e. they want to keep the original?
I dont think so, maybe you‘ll find something in the rolexforums, otherwise I would just show him the video. For the AD, it might be worth trying a different one or in a different country
@@watchyouare thanks a lot. What rivets has the watch maker used for your watch? OEM Rolex or is this some standard rivets that fit for this?
@@RobertA-h9g Sure hope it helps. I believe some standard rivets as he does not have any Rolex parts
Great video, thanks for sharing this idea! 💡👍
How much did this new replacement claps for a 16610 cost?
Glad you found it useful. The clasp should cost around CHF/EUR 400 when bought at the AD/RSC
Nice video. I have a 7inch wrist. 4 links on 6 hr side and 7 on the 12 with micro adjust the way up on u 214270. I don’t like 5 links on the 6hr side cause it makes the clasp end look weird on wrist.
Did you change out the GMT clasp yet? Curious how it came out since I'm considering it for mine
Ehm yea, that‘s what the video is about
@@watchyouare I know it was done on the sub. Just wanted to see the final result of the gmt. Loved the video!
Thanks for the informative video as always. I wanted to ask: where can I get presentation gloves (to prevent scratches and so on) in Switzerland? Thanks and Best Regards
Hello, I have a Submariner 16610, and my wrist size is small. Can you help me? How can I make the bracelet smaller, or how to remove the small link? Regards
Hi there, it is all explained in the video
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@@watchyouare I know, but for the submarine, did you change the clips, or just remove the small connection and put the clips back on?
@@hammadalajmi6164 it‘s the same procedure for the 16610, you have an independent watchmaker remove the „middle link“ and attach/rivet the clasp directly to the bracelet
@@watchyouare I will try and inform you
What size is your wrist? What is the minimum wrist size a pre-ceramic Rolex can be sized down to without destroying links?
My wrist is 15.5cm. Thats really hard to say, I would say 16.5-17cm but that‘s just a guess. Sometimes flipping the bracelet (attaching the 6 o‘clock side at 12 and vice versa) can also help.
@@watchyouare Thank you! That’s very helpful. I suppose the mid-size models are a safer bet.
I have 16 cm wrists. Do you think the 41mm submariner would be too big for me? I heard that the lug to lug is actually the same as the older models
Difficult to say but I would guess it is too big, not because of the lug to lug but the huge clasp, definitely try it on first
I’m sorry, but before you start destroying permalinks, just try reversing your bracelet. It centers the inner clasp just fine on my 14060M and 16710 SEL just fine.
You’ll forget about it after a day, and nobody really scrutinizes a clasp direction anyhow.
BONUS: It’s smoother when reversed and less likely to snag or show wear
If you need 4 links on each side you can flip it all day but it won’t work
@@watchyouare@5:30 you slide the bottom clasp to center on your wrist and it STILL pushes the watch head to the top edge away from your wrist - and that’s with your four links.
I literally own both of these watches and the only solution was to reverse the clasp so that it sits flush and in the middle of your wrist while the watch head is centered on your wrist as well.
I destroyed an EXP II Polar by removing a permalink and it still didn’t sit in the middle and swore off Rolex ever again.
Ten years later I bought a 14060 M at a good price and reversed the clasp and voila! It solved the issue without removing permalinks.
Also, I disagree that a six-digit is better for smaller wrists since the watch head is much heavier as is the bracelet. It’s very top-heavy for a smaller wrist and much more likely to porpoise. The “micro adjustment” is equal to an entire link so you’ll either have a very loose and heavy watch or one that is cinched down so tight as to be intolerable.
Very nice collection tho!
Female here, tiny wrists. Just got an Explorer II 16570 yesterday and had to flip the bracelet. Totally works without destroying any links.
@@PSSub-uk5ly OMG CONGRATULATIONS!!! That Explorer definitely looks smart and sexy on a female. Which dial?
@@Hilighted Thank you. I got the Polar
and how to open rivet?
An independent watchmaker can do that no problem
@@watchyouare how about a watch fix shop in hood? 🧐
@@Trollyoo only if you carry your AR-15. Jk, that‘s what I meant
@@watchyouare 😭😭😭thanks I won’t forget
What is your wrist size?
My wrist is 15.5cm
@@watchyouare mine is 15cm. I was offered a Batman and am debating on if I can pull it off or not. The GMT looks fine on yours and yours is very slightly larger so maybe I'll be ok
@@shihabmalek3780 The 126710 wears very different from the 16710, so I would not take that as a reference. Also it‘s about the shape of your wrist, not just the absolute circumference. Definitely try it on if you haven‘t already. Hope it works out
@@watchyouare why so different? Only difference in size I see is the thicker lugs of the current watch. From my understanding, besides that, the proportions are the same. But yes, I will try it on
@@shihabmalek3780 The case and bezel are completely different and have different proportions. You should find plenty comparisons online
What is your wrist size for reference?
I think ca 15.5cm (still talking about my wrist here)
@@watchyouare lmaoo
Because you have nice wrists