Top 5 Best Formula 1 Drivers in 2023
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Even Alonso himself said that this season was one of the best he has ever driven up there with 2012 and both his championships wins and I agree with him he was amazing and to get p4 to in the way he did in that inconsistent car at times was the icing on the cake
Im an Alonso fan and the mf says it every season since 2012.
@@dave7573 thats cuz every season he has its amazing :P
He drove better in 2010, 2011 and 2013 too.
@@The_ZeroLinegiven the car he has this year this performance this year has definitely been up there with those seasons to
Damn.. Gordon Ramsay is getting younger and younger.. and he's talking about F1.. great!
Man of many talents what can I say
@@Aldas001also that weekend 2x wrc championship kalle is abu dhabi with his co driver. Kalle Rovenpera the youngest fia/wrc champion in the age of 22 along the youngest 2x fia/wrc champion in just 23 years old
I usually can’t unsee these things, but this time I didn’t see it at all
wheres the damn sauce????
WHOLY SHIT UR RIGHT WTF I NEVER NOTICED
the fact that Lewis finished third by sheer consistency, the fact that Lando had so many second places, and Alonso being in-form at his age - PLEASE can we have a 5 way fight between the top 5 teams next year; this could have been another 2012-esque season 🥲
You won’t because FIA has made sure RB gets no consequence for breaking the rules
@@lars3712They have consequences that affected them, but their advantage in performance is so big that they can stop the development of the car earlier in the season to put all the budget they have to the next year’s car, if their advantage over the rest was not so big it would have affected them much more because they would have reduced time to build the car of the next car by still improving this year’s car to not lose the 2 championships, the problem is not the fia but the other teams who they can’t build a car on the level of the Redbull and they like to change a lot their concepts and that’s in the majority of the cases not good.
@@flazone4486 Its not just the other teams. The punishment was clearly not severe enough at all since it has had zero impact to fulfill the intended goal
I'd settle for a proper 2-way fight.
piastri had a great season as a rookie almost 100 points
I agree. There will be much more from him come next yr, I'm quickly becoming a big fan of his
Ok
Got dogged by Lando
But the car as well helped so much to reach that big number of points, he did a good season rookie but a little bit overrated because of the gain of McLaren’s performance in mid season, many talented drivers would have hoped to debute with a car like the McLaren.
Great season but outperformed by his teammate
I think booth Ferrari Drivers deserve more respect
Carlos made a huge step forward in terms of pace and fighting - he was incredible hard to overtake this season - and of course his masterclass in Singapur
Charles incredible pace again - second most poles behind Max, his tire management, the overtakes he pulled (Vegas, Japan) - just the best overtaker - so strong under breaking and positioning his car - and the leader he became in the last couple of races
Charles is so fucking underrated. His mistakes only come from overdriving the car because the car is nowhere near the top. Would put him p2 behind Max. And Sainz win would have never happened if he hadn't helped. Sainz has NEVER helped Charles, not even once.
@@RealViPdudeyeah the disrespect he’s been getting this year is pathetic
Best overtaker? Not by a long shot
@@jasppponii2030ain't nobody matching his overtakes other than Alonso this year.
I really think Charles deserved the spot over Lando. His form in the last 8 races (after the Japan upgrade) was incredible, and more consistent than Lando after the McLaren received its own upgrades.
So good to see Albon getting some much-deserved love.
Agree. He is my DotY.
@@mikaelbiilmann6826 He's made a huge difference to Williams. The team is coming back to life, and I like to think that his attitude and dedication (as well as his skill as a driver) has played a part in that.
After he left the grid, I was afraid we'd seen the last of him. I'm so glad he's returned, has a team that supports and believes in him, and has a secure seat (and is driving the wheels off that car). His ability to extract performance and defend reminds me of Alonso.
You can also tell, by the number of deleted times from him, that he really really tries hard to squeeze the last hundreds of seconds out of his lap times.@@RexytheRexy
Alex Albon could always finish ahead of Logan Sargeant
Verstappen, Alonso, Norris, Hamilton, Albon.
Oh nice, you put Albion in, too!
Best Rookie Oscar!
leclerc>albon
Hamilton out, Piastri in.
@@akshatbetala2813 Albon > Norris >Leclerc
@@rensvanderploeg1945Terrible opinion,bet you just started watching f1
We agree. Max Firstappen, Lord of the eyebrows, Lando Nowins, Sir Lulu & Al Bono
Albon absolutely smashed it this year, great to see him turning his career around
You should've put Leclerc in the top 5. You said he had a good end to the season, but he had a good season throughout. He lost a lot of points. I've said it before. 3 podiums lost. 37 points lost. That would've been third for Leclerc, ahead of Hamilton, despite Ferrari having a really inconsistent car in the first 13 races.
You could counts Sainz as well , dns in one of the races , Vegas gp penalty
@@formulagaming7049Sainz didnt lose many points to dnf only 18 while leclerc lost 57-60.Sainz was lapping 9 tenths slower than leclerc in vegas and wouldnt have gotten past alonso at Qatar.Leclerc wouldve finished above hamilton if not for many strategy issues and dnfs,couldve maybe finished even p2
@@greenfj1466Exactly
@@formulagaming7049 Yeah but in Qatar he would've finished sixth at best and in Las Vegas without the penalty he would've been fourth. 12 points lost.
Yea but these points combined with Leclerc would make Ferrari clear of merc
1st Verstappen
2nd Alonso
3rd Hamilton
4th Leclerc
5th Norris
i disagree with Leclerc ...last few races were decent but then overall sainz was way more consistent and also leclerc had really bad luck this season
@@samyakkapse1660then why Leclerc beat him with much more mechanical dnf, dns, dsq
@@samyakkapse1660 I had Norris ahead of Leclerc in my driver rankings until Norris' Las Vegas crash and his botched Q3 lap in Abu Dhabi.
@@samyakkapse1660 Ahahahah all those people who are saying Sainz was more consistent than Charles are either blind or they didn't watched the races
@@samyakkapse1660sainz was not way more consistent, every race Leclerc has been classified in the second half of the season he’s in the top 5 and the last 5 races he’s qualified on the front row every time
The Alonso masterclass vs Perez 🔥
I feel like Leclerc should be in this section also of "S tier" driver.
Piastri looking to be a shoo-in for it in a few years also.
I think we also have to mention these drivers for the work done in 2023
1. Charles Leclerc
2. Carlos Sainz
3. Pierre Gasly
4. Yuki Tsunoda
5. Oscar Piastri
6. Liam Lawson
These drivers have also done some pretty decent jobs at their respective teams as well
Gasly, Tsunoda, Lawson?? Over Alex ?? Alex, who carried Williams as a one-man team??? So, you don’t watch F1 then?
@@maxallen7979 hes adding to aldas's list not replacing them
Oh wow, Leclerc and Sainz in the top 2
Max's 2023 season stats would be a good career for anyone else.
I have been following you for a long time and more and more youre beciming my favourite f1 commentator and I find myself having to agree with you almost all the time.
I’ve got Lewis ahead of Fernando this season. The first 7 races Fernando def had an edge but after that Lewis was better the rest of the season. Both still had great seasons overall for their age and where their car was compared to Max’s
no Mercerdes was most of the time top 3 ..whereas AMR got the development wrong ,,,,and Lewis made some blunders ....
@@sumitblogs15You wouldn't call Fernando's crash in Spa sprint, pit entry penalty in Singapore, spinning in Qatar, and spinning again in Vegas blunders as well?
I gotta say... I like how there's a few people in the comments giving honourable mentions to Yuki. I think he's had a very good season. He's had an unpredictable season too with all the team changes. A lot of people like to talk shit about him but he was the only one scoring any points up until Liam Lawson came into the picture! He also got a lot of near misses at P11 several times. I think he's definitely shown development as a driver but unfortunately the AT car just doesn't have the pace most of the time to last til the end!
My top 5 best of this season:
1. Max, for simply being Super Max.
2. Lewis, for driving a black tractor to 3rd in the standings.
3. Fernando, for proving that age is just numbers.
4. Lando, for MMGA (Making McLaren Good Again).
5. Carlos, for what else, the only one who can win outside RB drivers.
Honorable mentions:
Oscar, Albono, Yuuki. 🤝🏼
Finally someone recognizing Yuki.
Leclerc hater definitely
@@greenfj1466 Not at all, mate. 🤝🏼
@@jiraiya.13 ok,but how is yuki better than leclerc
@@greenfj1466 Yuuki has shown what he's capable of on board a machinery not worthy of any points. Charles drove a car that clearly capable of winning, which Carlos did, and Charles failed to have a single victory. It's an easy comparison, mate, no hate here, just simple statistics and a bit of facts.
Mayby it would also be a nice to show the percentage of pointe scored for the team just a nice little addition in the stats label
Flawed stat, ferrari drivers always have mishaps,strat and dnf. Max Lando and alonso and albon have no where near a tougher teammate as Charles and lewis
This list is bang on
If you don't have Albon in the top 5, you don't understand what makes a great driver.
I agree with every placement of your rankings.
overrated he is top 8 but not top 5
Oh that is why all the top teams are bending over backwards to get him into their team?
Of course not, he is good but no one would take him over Leclerc. Except you and Alda’s that is.
@@Axumm96 How many mistakes did he make all year? How many times did he finish higher than was expected? Ask that of your top seven drivers.
australia showed me that he chockes in big moments@@AndyFromBeaverton
@@rulifaller8474 none of the top teams are bending over backwards to sign Hamilton, or verstappen or Norris. Your point doesn’t really make sense.
You are the english version of Victor Abad in Spain. Same age, same love and knowledge abput F1 amd also opinions and way of thinking
I agree with your top 5 but I think Tsunoda and hulkenberg deserve shout outs
Oscar Piastri would get 5th in the top 5 because it's his rookie season.
You could be right there. Lando P2, then Oscar P5 because Lando is faster than him
Commenting this before watching the video.
My top 5 in order is max, fernando, lewis, charles, and Alex.
My worst 5 in order is nyck, Logan, Kevin, Zhou, and valterri.
How come Zhou and Valterri are bottom? They did pretty good in certain races, Sargeant didn’t do anything special all season and crashed more often
@@theracingguy4739 That’s why I put Logan below them.
And all others had pretty ok seasons
@@danbruh33 oh soz thought u we’re going other way
Max, Alonso, Norris, Albon and Piastri/Norris. ( know I mentioned six but Piastri had a fantastic debut season and did quite well vs Norris).
U mentioned Norris 2x but Piastri dont belong in here just yet
Good choices, I agree 🇨🇦
Max,Lewis,Alonso,Leclerc,Norris
My rating:
1. Max Verstappen
2. Lando Norris
3. Charles Leclerc
4. Fernando Alonso
5. Carlos Sainz
6. Alex Albon
7. Lewis Hamilton
8. Pierre Gasly
9. Yuki Tsunoda
10. Oscar Piastri
For me, Hamilton was terrible in qualifying. Im not saying that quali are more important than races, but he hasnt got this pace anymore. Qualifying P12 and finish P4 is less impressive than quali P1 and finish P4 for me. From another stuff, Pierre has an underrated season for me. He had measure of Ocon for 90% of the time. Sainz was good, but the win doesnt make him better than Charles right away. Alonso struggled a bit when the car wasnt great That’s why ive got him at P4 (i have to admit tho that he was really solid, just lacked something) and the brazil weekend was perfection.
Top 4 are obvious picks this year, Max, Fernando, Lewis and Lando were a big step ahead of their teammates on raw pace and consistency all season. 5th could be argued to go to Albon, Leclerc, Piastri, Sainz, Gasly, or Hulkenberg.
I'll give it to Gasly partly because he made very few mistakes and beat Ocon, who I rank higher than other people would and consider to be a top-tier driver, and partly because he showed the maturity off track (which he lacked at RB) to work well with a new team (and Esteban). Albon has been really impressive at Williams, but I need to see him alongside a real teammate to know if its all him or partly the car. Piastri was really promising for a rookie, but whenever tyre deg was a factor he couldn't keep up with Lando. Sainz got a win, and Leclerc got 5 poles, but both made a lot of mistakes and never really challenged Max as they could've. Hulkenberg was incredible in what he drew from easily the worst car of the year, after a significant break, but the Haas was too dreadful on Sundays to know how good he really was this year.
I can't get over how Gasly destroyed both Alpines in Australia and skipped a slam dunk penalty which would have made him get a race ban
1. Max Verstappen
2. Lewis Hamilton
3. Lando Norris
4. Fernando Alonso
5. Carlos Sainz
But special shoutout to Charles Leclerc, he really turned up in the last few races (lets just forget Brazil though...) and be brought entertainment to the race in Vegas!
1. Max Verstappen
2. Lewis Hamilton
3. George Russell
4. Charles Leclerc
5. Lando Norris
This is such a tough task because it depends (for me) on what I expected.
Top 5 best:
1. Verstappen
2. Alonso (This is vintage Alonso, and just very impressive)
3. Hamilton (I was kind of shocked that he could have finished P2 in the standing, because there hasn't been much talk about him this year. I think he had delivered many very solid races, but always been overshadowed by somebody else.
4. Piastri (This is because I rate Norris as a potential championship contender, and while Piastri was very good, he has massively exceeded expectations. He even got a sprint win. I cannot wait to see what Piastri will do next year)
5. Albon (single-handedly beat Haas, Alpha Tauri and Alfa Romeo, massive drives like in Canada. And just super solid performances)
Runner ups: Norris and Lawson
5 worst (1 being the worst)
1. De Vries (much hype and just never seemed to get comfortable. And this was made much worse when Lawson came in and showed how it is done)
2. Sergeant (Very tough first year, but I didn't think he showed enough to earn a seat for next year. He was so so impressive in quali sometimes, think Jeddah. But he made track limit vialations that ruined everything. And I don't think he improved enough during the season. I expect he will have a tough next season as well)
3. Magnussen (out qualified by Hulkenberg, the car was just shit and I expected more from Kevin)
4. Stroll (Very clear to see the difference between an excellent driver in Verstappen and an average or even below average driver. But he finished on a positive note and also had a very impressive race in Bahrain. So there were some positives, but a stronger 2nd driver would have made a world of difference for AM)
5. Perez (he still finished P2 in the drivers, but he made the most dominant car look average)
My honorable mention would be Yuki
100% agree
I would put Sains in my top 10 for 2023. Apart from being the only other winner this season, he also stepped up as a team leader. Yes, Charles is the faster of the two but this season Carlos proofed he is not just a number 2.
Top 10: Max, Lewis, Alonso, Alex, Sains, Lando, Charles, Gasley, Russell and Piastry.
Fred will always prioritise Charles first.
Top 10 yes but never ahead of Charles
@@shiro3598 Maybe the money spent on Charles needs to be justified? Honestly, I hope Charles can battle for and win a championship.
I can't wait for a Championship battle between Max, Charles, Lando and Russell.
Piastri might be the spanner in the works. He seems like the real deal. On it from day one. He's also been able to do recovery drive. All promising signs.
Everyone gasped when Sains got the seat instead of Riccardo. But, the results speaks for themselves. Clearly the guys making the decision holds more information then what we've got.
@@PetruStefan25 Carlos has a strong case to be argued, especially this year. Carlos had been very assertive and placed himself in good point scoring situations. He got that win by a very intelligent drive. Charles showed some of that in the last races.
Last race showed who is the real team leader. Everyone knows Sainz will always choose himself over team thats why he will never be number 1
I think the way Lewis beat Russell is more impressive than Nando beating Stroll.
For sure Lewis had a much tougher teammate, but Fernando made a few less mistakes. Like I said were it not for Qatar Lewis would've been 2nd for me
Hamilton only scored 54 % of Mercedes' points so it was pretty close (while Alonso scored 74 % of AM's points)
Lewis got 57% (234/409), but Alonso beat Stroll more convincingly for sure. But George is way better than Stroll, Stroll was anonymous some races
Give me a standout Hamilton drive this season. Alonso has got Zandvoort, Brazil, Bahrain.
@@kakmaster6945please explain how Bahrain and zandvoort was stand out drives😂
Albon is a grate pick but mine would have been Yuki Tsunoda.
Can you make a video about logan sargeants williams seat, and who is in contetion to take it:)
For me my top 5 is
1- Max
2- Lewis
3- Lando
4- Alonso
5- Sainz
No.
@@oussamabendakir1453 why no?
Let me see your top 5
@@nba_valentino147Sainz doesn't belong in that list. Sainz couldn't beat leclerc even with the car suiting him more. Albon or Leclerc should be in that list.
@@darrenjohn8524 wooow Sainz is the only non redbull driver to win a race. And he would have ended up in P4 in the drivers championship if not for the Abu Dhabi incidence during practice.
@@nba_valentino147 Leclerc sacrificed his race for Sainz in Singapore. Leclerc gave sainz a 5 second lead during the pitstop phase which gave him an easy time during the safety car restart . Abu Dhabi was Sainz's own fault 😂.
Depends on what you mean. Five best drivers on the 2023 grid OR the five best drivers this year.
Weirdly I feel like both Ferrari drivers could be in here and also don't deserve to be in here. Sainz was quietly very consistent after the summer break and was 4th in the standings before Abu Dhabi, only non Red Bull to win, very strategic in races. Leclerc's qualifying performance in his unstable car is almost as good as Verstappen's pace but crashed too much.
Agreed. They had their moments but other drivers were just better. Personally Sainz got the better Season in my opinion.
4. SAI
8. LEC
I think you calculated the quality gap for max wrong, I just checked myself and its -0.527
Top 3 on point, but surprised to see lando that high, he made so many mistakes in quali I think being compared to piastri is what make he's perception a bit better thant what he really is worth. I would have put Leclerc somewhere. Outperformed his car and teammate pretty consistently if you remove things not in his control (strategy, mechanical DNFs). He was not perfect as he qualified poorly in a couple of GPs first half of the season but other than that he was on point. I think the fact that Sainz won at Singapore, one of the rare weekends where he was in front (and by a thin margin only) weighs on Leclerc's perception by the public.
1. VER
2. NOR
3. PIA
Lewis's consistency is also one of the reasons the guy has won -eight- Seven WDC
Verstappen, Alonso, Leclerc, Hamilton, Norris
FEW mistakes by Lando? he's bottled a lot of Quali sessions.
Beside Max and Fernando, the others did too.
Charles, Lewis, Carlos... they all had bad Qualis with mistakes or track limits. Or crashes. Alex had a lot of track limit delations. And sometimes they were just slower than their teammates, not even by a little. The few times Oscar was faster it was by very little.
None of them were perfect. Esp if you count the races too. Fernando had quite a few things going on.
Then teams, bad luck and other things are playing their role.
Imo, there wasn't much between Alonso, Hamilton, Norris, Leclerc, Sainz, Albon. All with ups and downs. They are human after all.
Piastri was very good too, Hulkenberg, Lawson, Tsunoda. But all of those too with mistakes and bad weekends.
1) max
2) alonso
3) lewis
4) lando
5) charles
6) alex
7) oscar
8) carlos
9) gasly
10) yuki
11) george
12) ocon
13) daniel
14) liam
15) checo
16) hulk
17) bottas
18) stroll
19) zhou
20) kmag
21) logan
22) nyck (deserved more time)
Yeah i think later into the season we had extremely competitive cars, damn near equal performance as F1 goes. It was literally just Max. Put the whole grid into Indycars, Max would still win.
Red bull was clearly still far superior in race pace. Otherwise max wouldn't be destroying alonso and Lewis, and checo would be nowhere to be seen
@@gorillachamp5271lol sure 😂
I just wanna hear ur guys opinions, where would you rate Charles Leclerc in 2023?
One of his worst seasons (without the last 2 races I would say the worst by far), but its more on ferrari
Leclerc HAS be on here imo. Insanely unlucky year with DNS,DNFs, DSQs etc and still managed to finish above him teammate who won a race.
With a bit more luck to start the year he genuinely could’ve finished P3 in the WDC.
My top 5 drivers would be: Verstappen , Leclerc, Hamilton, Alonso & Norris.
He said Leclerc as honourable mention, decided to put Albon, because he wanted to put someone from the middle or from the back of the pack. Otherwise Leclerc would be top 5
Top 3 drivers on the future podium.
Verstappen
Hamilton
Russell
I have actually rated the top 5 teams since the start of the season and these are the final averages:
-Verstappen
100 (perfection)
-Alonso
100 (he actually has 103 on my rating list😅)
-Lando
83
-Leclerc
79 (superb performance on the final races)
-Lewis
77 (very strange end to the season)
-Carlos
65
-Piastri
62 (as a rookie, quite good if u ask me)
-Russell
60
-Pérez
49
-Stroll
37
What I considered is how much points each car could have achieved vs how many points the driver managed to do. Of course it's impossible to put a perfect score but I did my best. Also the average potential car performance per weekend:
-RedBull 26.5 pts/race
-Mclaren 16.7 pts from Silverstone onwards
-Ferrari 14.7 pts
-Mercedes 14.3 pts
-Aston Martin 10pts (chadlonso with p4 in the driver standings idk how)
did you just give max a 10 every race,and alonso when spain,la and Mexico are comparable of the mistakes made by lando(Mexico and qatar) and lewis (qatar and abu)
@@Allblue1 It actually works like this:
Points obtained by X driver / Possible points based on car performance
Let's put Red bull as an example. They had the best car in all races (except Singapore), which means 25 points in a normal weekend. Let's say Max got 26 points and Sergio got 12. That's a performance of 104% for Max and a 48% performance for Sergio.
That's basically what I did with every driver, and I didn't include results which were affected by a technical failure or something similar.
@@alanquezada8283 Well if alonso and max scored max points capable by the car that is not the case for (la,Mexico). Also can tend to be a lot bias if max and alonso have 100+. Not to mention having a trash drivers helps so not surprising that those two at the top also would mean you just assume that there drive was the best result possible
@@Allblue1 yeah I agree that you look better when you have a teammate who makes a lot of mistakes and lacks pace, but in the case of Alonso and Max, we know they are two of the fastest and most consistent drivers throughout a full season.
And about the mistakes from Alonso, in Mexico he DNF'd (and the lack of pace wasn't his fault I think, Aston Martin didn't understand what they were doing mid-season). In Las Vegas and Spain yes he underperformed, but in the other races he was really good. (which results in a high average).
Lewis on the other hand, didn't have any scoreless weekend but rather lacked a bit of pace or racecraft in some ocassions. (Miami bad qualy, Austria track limits, Netherlands bad qualy, Qatar big points lost and Abu Dhabi). And it's not necessarily about big blunders but also about these little mistakes that end up losing you some important points.
@@alanquezada8283 But your points score is based on maximum points available so his mishaps would of brought the average down, not possible to get over or equal to 100 rating even for max, because techniqually every race he should get fastest lap but didn't. Alonso has had performances its just you cant tell cause his teammate isn't good. If lewis had stroll as a teammate and had bad quali in Miami stroll would of qualified even lower
Ngl Albon might have best of the rest, what he did with that dog of a car, 23-0 head to head quali, 27x more points than Logan.
Also Lando's resurgence after the car became good half way through the season and fighting back to get 1 or 2 points off the p4 position in half a season is also exeptional.
My list would be:
Max-Albon-Lando-Fernando-Lewis (I guess, but he wasn't as great this year as we're used to, but picked up consistent points to get that P3)
Mate the Williams I'd far clear of the Alpha Romeo and the Haas.
Alex P9, then Logan P12 because previously Russell has most of the time beaten Latifi hasn’t he
that's right
my top 5:- Lance stroll, nick de vries,logan sargeant,sergio perez and zhou
Two wins, 1 sprint, 2 poles, and second in drivers championship in the season and you disrespect your dad that way
My top 5:
Max
Lewis
Lando
Alex
Fernando
Honourable mentions:
Piastri
Leclerc
Sainz
Alex above Sainz, Leclerc and maybe piastri is ridiculous.
Alonso is still truly awesome 👌👌
Goatifi number 1 ❤️
Honestly think Charles deserves a top 5 more than Lando...might be controversial but there I said it.
Reasons?
Lando looking like a prime kai havertz, mr 007
Even in Singapore, Max had a pretty decent drive.
My top five are
1: Nicholas Goatifi
2:Nikita Mazespin
3:Lance Stolling in the Park
4:Roman Growes slower every day
5:Al Please go sit down.
Top 5 has to be(Excluding Verstappen):
Alonso
Hamilton
Albon
Piastri
Norris
Max, Alonso, leclerc, piastri, norris
Max
Checo
Carlos
Lando
Oscar
Alonsooooo!
I'd put Lewis and Fernando in 2nd spot interchangibly, although Aston's both highs and lows were more in the extreme, having Stroll as a team mate and having a car capable of podiums after a decade definitely hyped Alonso up. The bad thing with having a bad teammate is that you can't really rank the car and the driver accurately because you never know if a driver extracted the most out of the car in the race or in the qualifying. Lewis has made a few more mistakes than Alonso, but I'd say his pace and racecraft enabled him to minimize his mistakes.
I still accept putting Lewis in the 3rd position, only for the qualifying tho. Lewis himself admitted that he was not up to par with his own standards, and there were quite a few races where qualifying below George caused him trouble. It's incredibly obvious that he has one of the best race pace in the field, imo only second to Max for this season, but he hinders his own results through qualifying. Biggest proof for this was Singapore, which was the lowest he has been since Jeddah this year, because he was aware that he probably missed the only chance for a win that year, and this was proven in the race day when he had a 0.6 difference in race pace to George with the same type and age of wheels(this still haunts me to this day. Watching George hunt down Charles through clear air was exhilarating, realizing that Lewis was closing the gap between him and George was terrifying.)
I think it's partly Lewis' age. Age take it's biggest toll at all out qualifying, or maybe it's just the W14 being crazy. I agree with Fernando being overhyped by having Lance as a teammate though, I mean this is the same guy that got matched by rookie Lewis. However, I think Fernando has more "magic" moments this season compared to Lewis.
1.max 2.alonso 3.hamilton 4.norris 5.piastri
id switch hamilton and alonso but i can see both arguments
The disrespect for Sainz lol
I hate to say it. But I honestly think Lando should be in 3rd. The fact he could catch up to Alonso and be only 20+ points away from Lewis despite having a car that (at best) was capable of taking home 2 points a weekend for the first 9 rounds of the season. Yeah Alonso's car was inconsistant throughout the middle of the season, but he was still picking up p7-8 every weekend which is over 3× what Lando's car was taking home every weekend fir the first half of the year. The fact he could catch so much says a lot. And while people may claim he bottled pole or a race win, thats the same as what Alonso and Hamilton did too.
Except Lando had a car and was in a position that he was consistently capable of P2 at two thirds of the races.
@@gameofender4463 No, he was in a car that was equally capable of getting p3/p2 along with Ferrari and Mercedes. Anyone who says that McLaren was inherently quicker has been watching a different sport to me, bcs Merc and McLaren were so close in the second leg of 2023, and Ferrari were MILES clear of both going into the final 3 rounds. And don't forget, that Aston was the secind best car along with Merc and Ferrari for the start and in segments throughout the middle. Regardless of car performance, you cannot deny that Lando absolutely smashed it. Being 100+ points behind with 14 rounds to go and ending just 1 point behind is an INSANE effort regardless of pace.
Edit: Also, tbf that McLaren was dog at Netherlands, Monza, Vegas and was slower than the Merc in Abu Dhabi.
The fact that were it not for a bad pit stop, Lando probably would've been p4 in the WDC bcs he and Russell were the exact same pace (the only thing that built the gap was that Russell got through one car of traffic a lap before Lando did bcs Lando was too far back to get it done having had his bad pit stop).
While the McLaren was definetly at the top of the field at some races, it was dog at some as well. So really we're talking a 100+ point recovery at around 10-11 rounds, which is remarkable...
@@bill4665 finally someone understands that the redbull is just too fast and nobody was ever in a winning position when max was racing.
We should give Fernando a chance in Red Bull. He's simply a force of nature
Alonso had a STINKER in Las Vegas tbh.
I’d put Lando in 2nd personally. Six 2nd places while only having a competitive car for about 10 races is insane
He could have more but bottled quali
max,lewis,Alonso,Norris,Albon HM i have 2 Leclerc and Piastri
Max
Lewis
Carlos
Lando
Fernando
George
Oscar
My Top 5:
P1: Max Verstappen
P2: Fernando Alonso
P3: Lewis Hamilton
P4: Carlos Sainz
P5: Alex Albon
To have Sainz P4 and the Albon above Leclerc is crazy.
🐐Alonso, Verstappen, Hamilton, Albon, Norris
💩De Vries, Perez, Sargeant, Stroll
ohhhh fernando alonsooooooooooooooo
1. Max Verstappen
2. Frenando Alonso
3. Lewis Hamilton
4. Lando Norris
5. Charles Leclerc
Damn Gordon Ramsay not cooking then?
focus
1.max
2.alonso
3.lando
4.lewis
5.oscar
Max is awesome I just don't like it when he wins. Lol good season. Great driver.
my top 5 is Max Lewis Lando Fernando and Charles
Another top 5 for me:
Max
Lewis
George
Lando
Oscar
We never refer to a certain champion driver from Brazil as "Dr Aryton Senna."
You know he's in pain not putting Leclerc on this list
Max, Alonso, Sainz, Yuki, Albon are probably my top five
Max should be obvious why
Alonso just how consistent he was throughout the season
Sainz only none Red Bull win and that win was a master class
Yuki I feel like finished in 11th almost every race in the beginning of the season with that tractor of the car
Albon same reason as you pretty much
again sainz yuki and albon cannot be over lewis or leclerc or lando
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1.Verstappen
2.Alonso
3.Hamilton
4.Norris
5.Albon
1. Max
2. Fernando
3. Lewis
4. Lando
5. Oscar
Oscar? Gasly did better
Crazy how much times my guy says “could have had, but Max Verstappen”. Just to consistent
My top 5 (skillwise, excluding machinery):
1- Max
2- Fernando
3- Lewis
4- Lando
5- Alex
Also:
1. Max
2. Lewis
3. Oscar
4. Charles
5. Lando
I’d put yuki in, tbh
Verstappen, Alonso, Leclerc, Hamilton, Albon
You did Checo Perez dirty.
What’s this arguably the greatest season,,, It was the greatest season for any driver in the history of F1 and it’s not even close,,,
My top 5 F1 drivers in 2023 are: Verstappen in first place, Checo Perez in second, Hamilton in third, Alonso in fourth, and Leclerc in fifth place!!!
My top 5 drivers are:
Verstappen P1
Hamilton P2
Russell P3
Sainz P4
Leclerc P5
for me, the top 5 of the 2023 season are
1. max verstappen
2. fernando alonso
3. lewis hamilton
4. lando norris
5. carlos sainz
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replace carlos with charles even in a car carlos was more comfortable with he got beaten in final points
Thanks to AjaySharma for writing a complete list to view and ponder. My problem is that 10 or so of the drivers will never ever in a million years get into the top 10 let alone top 5. Why are they still in F1? I’m sure there are better drivers out there. It is a Members Club about making money. The Championship standings give the definitive answer of the result For This Season apart from Checo who has “lucked into” a fabulous car. Swap Checo out for Lando and that’s about right. I cannot believe you had Charles in sixth? He and Verstappen are top of the pile on talent.
I think Sainz should be here somewhere, he's the only man in a non Redbull to win a race this season and the sole reason we didn't get a clean swipe from Redbull this year
True! Sainz had a good season. He mostly have really good weekends but some mediocre weekends here and there. A bit better consistency and he becomes a world class driver. I could see him drive with Max once again in red bull if ferrari can't offer him a championship-winning car by the end of his contract after next season.
Leclerc is a better driver imo
my top 5 (in no order)... Norris, Albon, Alonso, Sainz and (sadly) Max... Albon has completely outperformed that Williams, Lando has been brilliant except for a few mistakes but he'll get that win and maybe even that champion eventually, Alsonso has had an amazing season in a car that got worse, and Sainz as the only non-redbull race winner...
Wins: 0, 0, 0, 0
Max verstappen: 19