Punk's hype was not a fluke. Punk left WWE in 2014, the interviewer was still asking Cody about Punk in 2018. That itself indicates how relevant and hyped-up Punk was all this time.
@@tgarriivmea Punk was offered job opportunities by many Wrestling promotions. He declined AEW too in its initial days. Probably because the money was not right enough. At the end of the day, just like Vince once said "Everyone has a price". Tony probably put an extra zero to what the Bucks initially offered him and got Punk. Irrespective of being positive or negative, Punk was always a matter of discussion. Punk probably was not the only guy whom the Bucks approached and declined the offer. But Punk made the news. And that's star power. One can't just deny it. Peace out ✌️
That’s the problem, you should believe your own hype, Austin, Rock and Hunter all did and it got them far. Everyone makes such a big deal about Punk when it’s completely normal for him (at that point in time) to feel that way…10 years he’s still the main attraction
True and it shows too because you have to bet on yourself and let the fans do the talking. LA Knight is a great example of that for modern day WWE. Bet on yourself, let fans believe the hype and mystique of your character, it has worked very well for Punk since his return in AEW a while back and now WWE and I am not talking about backstage, more about sales and overall impact.
Everyone knows he should have main evented. Punk was so hot at the time, nobody was close. When Punk is on and not causing issues like he did in AEW, dude is one of the top entertainers in the world. Hopefully the Punk we see in WWE now will do the things that make him great and not get caught up in politics. As the politics in the back have to be much less than when Vince was there. I think wrestling is better when Punk is in it, but that with the idea he's bought in.
@@uria2001 see I look at the logical side of things, where did he cause any problems, if anything people were causing him problems, in the 7 years he was gone, we heard nothing that would suggest that he was problematic, but as soon as he starts working with someone from a certain group, the narratives start
@@btdaniels9028 I'm like you I look at it logical. Nothing is ever just one person fault. He had his part in the things that happened in AEW. Just like the EVPs, Hangman, Jungle Boy, and even Tony Kahn. The thing about WWE they always had a boss to not let things escalate to the level it did in AEW. So, that's where Tony Kahn fails. The EVPS being a big part of decision-making in the company should have realized to not go into a room with someone whose is that worked up. Lets things calm down and most likely get a mediator. Punk is a grown adult who doesn't have a filter when sometimes you need one. Don't do things like that in front of the media, especially next to the "boss." You put everyone in a compromising position. So, no, not everything was Punks fault, but he has his share of the pie of blame just like the rest do.
The story I remember about Punk declining AEW the first time was that he just got a random text from Tony, whom he'd never given his number. And his thought was "if your way of trying to get me to take this risk (on a brand new IP/company) is to offer me a job through a text, you can't be serious about business". Thats why he waited to see how it went. How prophetic if true. Tony isn't just too nervous to be a boss, he's too nervous to CALL this guy like a man, so he sent him a text.
I’m at the point where I know your thumbnail game and I just click to give you props in the comments. Always perfectly timed to confuse wrestling casuals.
I remember Punk complaining that the interest in him came through text messages sent by Cody. Punk's response was he doesn't do buisness via text message.
I remember Cody shooting down the text thing Punk said and he said they'd met in person or talked properly. At least that's what I remember when it was brought up as if they'd been unprofessional approaching him.
As I recall from Punk's interview with Renee, he was waiting for a solid TV deal to believe AEW wasn't just going to be another TNA, GCW, ECW, etc, and then the pandemic lockdowns came along and he didn't want to just appear in front of televisions in the stands or the boys (they really wasted Matt Hardy's move that way) or some drones circling around. In 2018, AEW didn't exist yet, nor was he interested in going back to ROH. 2018's All In was a proof of concept, but the money really wasn't there to interest folks who still likely had millions banked away. Other than Rey Mysterio, Bully Ray and Cody, there wasn't anyone with solid WWE experience (or money earnings) on the show.
I didn't see WM30, so maybe I don't have the proper context, but Punk's "I don't need you, you need me" comment doesn't come off as him thinking he's a dangerous man, but a big asset in showbiz; kinda like how Marlon Brando knew people benefitted from his name so much that he didn't bother trying on the job towards the end (only Punk never phoned it in)...The fact that Punk tried his hand at MMA might mean he really did think he was dangerous but it doesn't necessarily mean his WM30 comment was anything more than knowing his value as a performer in WWE.
Damn crazy how much we all are since then, this was 5 years ago. 5 years ago feels like 2 sometimes, most times. It's nuts. Compared to 2010-2015, 2018-2023 was like WOOSH
During those years, 2011 to 14, Punk was the hottest thing in WWE! Vince McMahon n Paul Heyman n the audience those times know better n even Cody knows that well whether he admits it or not.
I feel like you need an ego to a certain degree in order to succeed in this business. Obviously can't let it consume you, but nobody has ever become a top star by being humble.
Sad to see him call it play-fighting. This kind of comment is why wrestling isn’t as popular as it used to be. I thought Cody respected “the business” more than this.
If you can step away from the industry and admit how absurd it is, and that it really boils down to…..guys playfighting in their underwear….Vs dork marks.who’s really winning here?
Punk left it too long sadly and that's obvious to see any time he has wrestled since coming back its been terrible For me AJ styles is still the best wrestler walking the planet and has been the last 15/20 years if he was anywhere else now other than wwe he would be on fire wrestling like he used to but since he joined wwe we haven't even seen AJ styles at 50% and I strongly believe it's because nobody there in the company over that period of time is good enough to go with AJ
TK is not experienced in managing, Punk was his big dog , his products always sold out and he deserved to be a champion and work the ways he likes , i don't think Reigns and Rollins didn't that in WWE, not firing Adam page and Jungle boy is big mistake, not suspending The elite from EVps after the rumors and chaos they creaated is a big mistake, let Cody go to WWE was stupied mistake , every body see it, AEW is full of kids managed by a kid too, they are going to earth and they deserve it. i hope this company close very soon and their Evps go to wrestle in schools again where they belong.
You should 100% believe your own shit. Its what separates a Stardust from a CM Punk. Whereas Cody became complacent with his mid, forgettable run in WWE, Punk fought tooth and nail to become better because he knew he could give wayyyyy more. Hopefully within these last 5 years Cody's opinion changed. Maybe AEW taught him that being a company boy doesn't make you remarkable or special.
Ngl punk was right tho in that instant triple h hadn’t wrestled in a minute at that point while punk was white hot wrestling every single night if hunter wins it jus shows that him n Vince can bury anyone no matter their popularity with the fans n it shows no progress to the character of punk because why should a 40+ year old barely part timer should be able to wrestle one time and beat a top white hot superstar n go right back into retirement regardless who wins in the match it should prove that triple h can still wrestle punk should be able to beat triple h at that point in time because he basically retired from in ring action to make the business decisions they tried to pull the same shit with Daniel Bryan at WM 30 but Bryan forced them to put him into that match because he was whiter than white hot and I think punk held a grudge over that specific point at that time but like hunter said they both changed and the it’s a different company now u shouldn’t be the same person 10 years later
@freakinflax they're just sucking off the money. Jericho is a modern day hulk hogan politician backstabbing right wing moron. Notice how jerichos the only one in aew consistently on top and booked?
@@freakinflaxthey both only left wwe in their late 40s/early 50s when it was clear wwe wasn’t going to use them at the top of the card. Just look at how edge was used, he had random smackdown matches the past few months before he left and his presence wasn’t a stand out
There's nothing wrong with buying into your own hype if you actually live up to it. That's the difference between Cody and CM Punk. Punk lives up to his hype, he really is that big of a deal. Cody never was.
@@tgarriivmea How did Cody "revolutionize the industry"? He helped Tony Khan start a wrestling company that's now so ridiculously mismanaged that it's audience is vaporizing before our eyes.
@@christopheraaron8299 if you don't see how AEW changed the landscape, in terms of wrestlers being able to get a good contract elsewhere with TV exposure, then you should remove your horse blinders. You don't need to like AEW to understand it.
@@tgarriivmea The UFC merger with WWE did far more to revolutionize the wrestling industry than the inception of AEW. The entry of Tony Khan to the industry had far less impact than the exit of Vince McMahon. And let's be real here, wrestlers certainly don't get better pay and benefits from or because of AEW. Hell, when it comes to medical, AEW is the most dangerous place to be. They take more risks to get noticed so there's more injuries and far more serious injuries. And Jon Moxley is definitely going to die from hepatitis.
But Punk never drew. His time in WWE he sold a lot of shirts not many tickets. His pipe bomb got the internet talking, TV ratings were flat. Punk joins AEW they never reach the higher audience they had, acts like he is a big deal only raised the ratings 100k to occasionally 200k but that only reach their average audience. A lot of words in dirtsheets and the internet but most people dont care. He only attracts the hardcores, he doesn't bring in new fans. Collision would still do those numbers whether Punk was there or not, other shows have seen it during his time.
AEW is full of people believing their own hype! Ask the Young Bucks, Omega, Page, ask the Hardy’s if anyone thinks they’re a big deal anymore, listen to Jericho talk, it’s just laughable! Cody was in a different place here but like he said he had to fall to understand. When he fell out of AEW and back into the WWE I’m sure he learned a big lesson!
How do you feel about CM Punk’s WWE return? Let us know in the comments below!
It will be punks best run
Punk's hype was not a fluke. Punk left WWE in 2014, the interviewer was still asking Cody about Punk in 2018. That itself indicates how relevant and hyped-up Punk was all this time.
Crowds chanted CM PUNK for years after he left.
@@tgarriivmea Punk was offered job opportunities by many Wrestling promotions. He declined AEW too in its initial days. Probably because the money was not right enough. At the end of the day, just like Vince once said "Everyone has a price". Tony probably put an extra zero to what the Bucks initially offered him and got Punk. Irrespective of being positive or negative, Punk was always a matter of discussion. Punk probably was not the only guy whom the Bucks approached and declined the offer. But Punk made the news. And that's star power. One can't just deny it. Peace out ✌️
@@tgarriivmea In the entertainment business, only the relevant people are offered job opportunities. Rest seek job opportunities
i dont think anyone is doubting that. i remember the first dance
@@nayanjyotikalita7535lol that quote is from the million dollar man Ted DiBiase, not Vince McMahon.
That’s the problem, you should believe your own hype, Austin, Rock and Hunter all did and it got them far. Everyone makes such a big deal about Punk when it’s completely normal for him (at that point in time) to feel that way…10 years he’s still the main attraction
True and it shows too because you have to bet on yourself and let the fans do the talking. LA Knight is a great example of that for modern day WWE. Bet on yourself, let fans believe the hype and mystique of your character, it has worked very well for Punk since his return in AEW a while back and now WWE and I am not talking about backstage, more about sales and overall impact.
Everyone knows he should have main evented. Punk was so hot at the time, nobody was close. When Punk is on and not causing issues like he did in AEW, dude is one of the top entertainers in the world. Hopefully the Punk we see in WWE now will do the things that make him great and not get caught up in politics. As the politics in the back have to be much less than when Vince was there. I think wrestling is better when Punk is in it, but that with the idea he's bought in.
@@uria2001 see I look at the logical side of things, where did he cause any problems, if anything people were causing him problems, in the 7 years he was gone, we heard nothing that would suggest that he was problematic, but as soon as he starts working with someone from a certain group, the narratives start
@@btdaniels9028 I'm like you I look at it logical. Nothing is ever just one person fault. He had his part in the things that happened in AEW. Just like the EVPs, Hangman, Jungle Boy, and even Tony Kahn. The thing about WWE they always had a boss to not let things escalate to the level it did in AEW. So, that's where Tony Kahn fails. The EVPS being a big part of decision-making in the company should have realized to not go into a room with someone whose is that worked up. Lets things calm down and most likely get a mediator. Punk is a grown adult who doesn't have a filter when sometimes you need one. Don't do things like that in front of the media, especially next to the "boss." You put everyone in a compromising position. So, no, not everything was Punks fault, but he has his share of the pie of blame just like the rest do.
Sometimes hype gets over your head. Too much of anything is bad.
The story I remember about Punk declining AEW the first time was that he just got a random text from Tony, whom he'd never given his number. And his thought was "if your way of trying to get me to take this risk (on a brand new IP/company) is to offer me a job through a text, you can't be serious about business". Thats why he waited to see how it went.
How prophetic if true. Tony isn't just too nervous to be a boss, he's too nervous to CALL this guy like a man, so he sent him a text.
Source ?
lmao at Cody's face when the interviewer said Punk's quote about Triple H
Well he's correct, no one has cared to watch Triple H in decades.
I’m at the point where I know your thumbnail game and I just click to give you props in the comments.
Always perfectly timed to confuse wrestling casuals.
it's a skill at this point lol.
Crazy Cody came back on mania and main evented the next.
I remember Punk complaining that the interest in him came through text messages sent by Cody. Punk's response was he doesn't do buisness via text message.
Exactly. You know they went about it in a silly way I bet. Origin story
Wasn't sent by Cody, it was sent by the Bucks. At least that's what I remember from the interview that Punk gave at the time.
I remember Cody shooting down the text thing Punk said and he said they'd met in person or talked properly. At least that's what I remember when it was brought up as if they'd been unprofessional approaching him.
@@tgarriivmea maybe that’s why there’s so many red flags in the business world…you think Vince texted Cody ?
@@tgarriivmea nah he called and flew to go see him
As I recall from Punk's interview with Renee, he was waiting for a solid TV deal to believe AEW wasn't just going to be another TNA, GCW, ECW, etc, and then the pandemic lockdowns came along and he didn't want to just appear in front of televisions in the stands or the boys (they really wasted Matt Hardy's move that way) or some drones circling around. In 2018, AEW didn't exist yet, nor was he interested in going back to ROH. 2018's All In was a proof of concept, but the money really wasn't there to interest folks who still likely had millions banked away. Other than Rey Mysterio, Bully Ray and Cody, there wasn't anyone with solid WWE experience (or money earnings) on the show.
Oh man I love cody
“We’re just a bunch of men play fighting in our underwear” in the 80s & 90s he’d have MAJOR heat for saying that😂
Gave Ray Mysterio his bus? Did i hear that right?
Hogan, The Rock, Austin, The Undertaker, Macho Man, Flair, etc, etc, etc. What do they all have in common? They believe 100% in their own hype
I didn't see WM30, so maybe I don't have the proper context, but Punk's "I don't need you, you need me" comment doesn't come off as him thinking he's a dangerous man, but a big asset in showbiz; kinda like how Marlon Brando knew people benefitted from his name so much that he didn't bother trying on the job towards the end (only Punk never phoned it in)...The fact that Punk tried his hand at MMA might mean he really did think he was dangerous but it doesn't necessarily mean his WM30 comment was anything more than knowing his value as a performer in WWE.
This is old, Cody is in a different time and place mentally now vs then.
Damn crazy how much we all are since then, this was 5 years ago. 5 years ago feels like 2 sometimes, most times. It's nuts. Compared to 2010-2015, 2018-2023 was like WOOSH
“shoots” in 2023 is crazy
During those years, 2011 to 14, Punk was the hottest thing in WWE! Vince McMahon n Paul Heyman n the audience those times know better n even Cody knows that well whether he admits it or not.
I give this a D+
i loved stardust!
"Let him be their problem"
it got UNO reverse!
You got sued for a podcast?! What?
WWE sued Colt Cabana and CM Punk for what they said on Colts podcast.
That's what started the beef between Punk and Colt.
Damn I didn’t know he bought Rey a tour bus that’s actually sick 😂
Probably didn't buy Rey one, but Punk had one his last few years in WWE. Probably gave him that one.
@mirage5566 still an amazing gesture
All In 2018 was before AEW even existed.
Play fighting was a good one 😃👍🏽
“Believe his own hype” lol. I think last night proved the hype is real. Let’s face it Cody and punk are both egomaniacs. Every top wrestler is lol.
I feel like you need an ego to a certain degree in order to succeed in this business. Obviously can't let it consume you, but nobody has ever become a top star by being humble.
Before the neck tattoo
Cody is a better wrestler than CM Punk
Started rewatching WWE after a long time because of Cody
By far
The whine in the comments...
Sad to see him call it play-fighting. This kind of comment is why wrestling isn’t as popular as it used to be. I thought Cody respected “the business” more than this.
Lmao….“ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT”😂😂😂
yea, this is Cody in 2018 when he had THE Elite in his ear 24/7. i'd say he smarted up a lot in the years since
Thought he thought more about wrestling since Dusty was a wrestler not a guy in his underwear
Is he wrong though? Some people take pro-wrestling way too seriously. Its silly.
If you can step away from the industry and admit how absurd it is, and that it really boils down to…..guys playfighting in their underwear….Vs dork marks.who’s really winning here?
Punk left it too long sadly and that's obvious to see any time he has wrestled since coming back its been terrible
For me AJ styles is still the best wrestler walking the planet and has been the last 15/20 years if he was anywhere else now other than wwe he would be on fire wrestling like he used to but since he joined wwe we haven't even seen AJ styles at 50% and I strongly believe it's because nobody there in the company over that period of time is good enough to go with AJ
Weird audience participation idea
6:16 yup cm punk, never been in a fight
This is old
@StarshipMythiclmao and u don't like him coz uv interacted with him?
TK is not experienced in managing, Punk was his big dog , his products always sold out and he deserved to be a champion and work the ways he likes , i don't think Reigns and Rollins didn't that in WWE, not firing Adam page and Jungle boy is big mistake, not suspending The elite from EVps after the rumors and chaos they creaated is a big mistake, let Cody go to WWE was stupied mistake , every body see it, AEW is full of kids managed by a kid too, they are going to earth and they deserve it. i hope this company close very soon and their Evps go to wrestle in schools again where they belong.
"Play fighting" crowd claps then they'll lose their shit when people say wrestling is fake despite clapping at a guy basically calling it fake
You should 100% believe your own shit. Its what separates a Stardust from a CM Punk. Whereas Cody became complacent with his mid, forgettable run in WWE, Punk fought tooth and nail to become better because he knew he could give wayyyyy more.
Hopefully within these last 5 years Cody's opinion changed. Maybe AEW taught him that being a company boy doesn't make you remarkable or special.
Ngl punk was right tho in that instant triple h hadn’t wrestled in a minute at that point while punk was white hot wrestling every single night if hunter wins it jus shows that him n Vince can bury anyone no matter their popularity with the fans n it shows no progress to the character of punk because why should a 40+ year old barely part timer should be able to wrestle one time and beat a top white hot superstar n go right back into retirement regardless who wins in the match it should prove that triple h can still wrestle punk should be able to beat triple h at that point in time because he basically retired from in ring action to make the business decisions they tried to pull the same shit with Daniel Bryan at WM 30 but Bryan forced them to put him into that match because he was whiter than white hot and I think punk held a grudge over that specific point at that time but like hunter said they both changed and the it’s a different company now u shouldn’t be the same person 10 years later
Aew is full of unprofessional people who vince mcmahon tried to make but they had their own faults
Edge? Jericho? 🤔🤔
@freakinflax they're just sucking off the money. Jericho is a modern day hulk hogan politician backstabbing right wing moron. Notice how jerichos the only one in aew consistently on top and booked?
@@freakinflaxthey both only left wwe in their late 40s/early 50s when it was clear wwe wasn’t going to use them at the top of the card. Just look at how edge was used, he had random smackdown matches the past few months before he left and his presence wasn’t a stand out
Safe to say AEW is done for 😂
Not so fast they gotta stay on top of there business
Lame fan
@@HijoDelHongo cope😂
Aew is full of simps in the audience they never criticize aew and their faults.
@@SP2Crazy imagine calling yourself a fan of wrestling and hoping a promotion will fail. Lame fan.
Weird analogy 😂
Wait, CM Punk misrepresented a situation? No way
There's nothing wrong with buying into your own hype if you actually live up to it. That's the difference between Cody and CM Punk. Punk lives up to his hype, he really is that big of a deal. Cody never was.
@@tgarriivmea How did Cody "revolutionize the industry"? He helped Tony Khan start a wrestling company that's now so ridiculously mismanaged that it's audience is vaporizing before our eyes.
@@christopheraaron8299 if you don't see how AEW changed the landscape, in terms of wrestlers being able to get a good contract elsewhere with TV exposure, then you should remove your horse blinders. You don't need to like AEW to understand it.
@@tgarriivmea The UFC merger with WWE did far more to revolutionize the wrestling industry than the inception of AEW. The entry of Tony Khan to the industry had far less impact than the exit of Vince McMahon.
And let's be real here, wrestlers certainly don't get better pay and benefits from or because of AEW. Hell, when it comes to medical, AEW is the most dangerous place to be. They take more risks to get noticed so there's more injuries and far more serious injuries. And Jon Moxley is definitely going to die from hepatitis.
But Punk never drew. His time in WWE he sold a lot of shirts not many tickets. His pipe bomb got the internet talking, TV ratings were flat. Punk joins AEW they never reach the higher audience they had, acts like he is a big deal only raised the ratings 100k to occasionally 200k but that only reach their average audience. A lot of words in dirtsheets and the internet but most people dont care. He only attracts the hardcores, he doesn't bring in new fans. Collision would still do those numbers whether Punk was there or not, other shows have seen it during his time.
@@TheEWFX29 Meh, AEW doesn't really count because Tony is such a crap booker. Nobody is a big enough draw to make AEW look good.
Punk is a prick. Never liked him. He’s been talented at times. Just not for me. Been watching wrestling since 1990
1:17 is a sad comment by Cody Rhodes and should have disqualified him from WWE you would think
Cody is pretentious
Talking about someone who believes his own hype. I called then and i call it now Cody will never be WWE world champ
AEW is full of people believing their own hype! Ask the Young Bucks, Omega, Page, ask the Hardy’s if anyone thinks they’re a big deal anymore, listen to Jericho talk, it’s just laughable! Cody was in a different place here but like he said he had to fall to understand. When he fell out of AEW and back into the WWE I’m sure he learned a big lesson!
Cody will always be midcard at best .
Still better then you