Thanks for the Video! Apologies for butting in, I would appreciate your thoughts. Have you heard the talk about - Haaneely Undetected Approach (Have a quick look on google can't remember the place now)? It is a great one of a kind product for discovering the dirty secrets and mind control games of a spy without the headache. Ive heard some amazing things about it and my buddy finally got excellent results with it.
PI's do the jobs that Police Detectives cant. The dirty work that the dept wouldn't allow an officer to perform without repercussions. The PI is flexible in this way. Lots of advantages over "cops"
Police usually retire and become security or PI for the same reason paramedics usually retire and become registered nurses- they can do half the work with half the risk and get paid twice as much. Security and police is a never ending cycle- security usually becomes police (like Tommy here) and police usually retire and become security.
@@halo091 Even if lots of cops say that P.I experience doesn't count or help they're wrong.P.I experience can be used in police work.As a P.I you learn to tail cars in traffic,conduct surveillance,find missing persons etc. All of these are valuable skills needed in the police force. P.S : I'm sorry if my English is bad.
I am a PI and I do fugitive recovery with a agency. Its a absolute blast. I am also a commissioned(armed) security officer on the side. But I have not done any other PI work besides fugitive recovery. I am told it is pretty fun depending on what you do or what your mission/goal is. Thanks for another great video as always good sir!!!
In oregon, attorney's constantly hire private investigators to work on a criminal case that they are dealing with in hope to show they are innocent. Also I think it's so they can see if they are guilty too for personal reasons. But like I said they do investigate criminal matters often sex crimes and murders.
That's also the case in Oklahoma. There are several agencies in Oklahoma that specifically help try to find missing and runaway children and teens. I'm a state licensed armed private investigator, armed security guard, and process server in Oklahoma.
They are not called private investigators. They are criminal defense investigators.(CDI). Usually they are paid through the court after attorney billing. They are just like the prosecutors use government investigators. Commissioned by the attorney, normally registered through the court to do this.
For crimes without violence, the PI hired must have skills/knowledge/background in certain professional fields ( e.g Business/ Finance/ Law/ IT / Sociology/ the field the suspicious person is in ) ; for crimes with violence , the PI hired have safety concern , so the former LEO/ Cops the best choice ( in the countries where the PI industry is not regulated so rigid as USA, the former gangster good choice as well )
I love how you start by talking about the portrayal of PIs in Hollywood, then inform us on the "normal " jobs of a real private investigator. Great video man.
Thank you so much for your time and service. I really appreciate all your efforts to provide good content and help people how law enforcement works. Thank you again. And God bless you and your family.
I'm a Private Detective, licensed in MD, PA, N.Y., OH and MA. 98% of our business is Workmans Comp cases. The other 2% are Alive & Well checks, interviews and GOTCHA reports.
In my experience the only real cross-over between PI & cop work is when the better & more honest sort of PI investigation starts off as a civil matter but uncovers criminal activity that results in the case being handed over, exactly like you mentioned. To be fair most PI's I've come across have been professional and dedicated. A fair few seem to be retired detectives. Edited to add: most of the handed-over cases I've seen have been fraud or similar matters.
You missed a lot of things that private investigators do. For one we have access to the same database as most police agencies to do background checks and to do research on the claimants. For two at least in Las Vegas I deal with police almost on a weekly basis working cases. However I also work a lot of cases with attorneys and with the courts. I do everything from criminal investigation defense cases, Insurance fraud process serving, accident investigations and many other things. Even when I do accident investigations I’m the one taking charge working directly with Las Vegas metro police trying to reconstruct how the accident happened and who was at fault. I also do SIU work. I’ve conducted interviews even in gels and prisons for cold cases. We also do in fact conduct investigation work for missing person cases where we will go to jobs look at footage conduct interviews and do everything we can to look up someone who went missing.
15:42 Loss prevention / Asset Protection isn't always about catching shoplifters. I work at Walmart and 30% of the time I'm looking for shoplifters on camera or walking the sales floor. About 40% of the time I'm investigating safety & policy issues, time clock theft, and shrink in the store (inventory or financial loss). The other 30 % of the time I am diving deep into data pertaining to register shorts, return fraud, and other internal theft problems. At other stores like CVS drug store their LP only catches shoplifters and has nothing to do with investigating internal theft. Been studying and will be taking the Florida C license in December so I can make some extra money as a PI.
Two additions to this conversation: When I was a kid, in Indiana, back after High School in the 1980s, there was no separate "Security Guard" license. In order to work as a Security Guard, you got a State "Private Investigator" license. The second is that there are companies who hire "Investigators" who conduct background checks on entry level Federal employees.
Free Field Training, I retired as a law enforcement officer from Jersey, back in 2015 after 28 years of service. I remember when I was on the job, officers would speak negatively about security officers now those same officers are retired, working as armed security officers for a security company that has all the contracts for Motor Vehicle, it goes to show you the hypocrisy of some of these guys they talk out of their asses.
I’ve been a private investigator for a number of years and have almost never conducted the “secret shopper” type investigations that you describe. Myself, and the vast majority of PIs that I know, do mostly surveillance, skip tracing, and interviewing. Cases are often insurance related, infidelity, and child custody. It takes a lot of research and patience, but it’s not a boring job by any means. We usually work alone, and also aren’t confined to a jurisdiction. Which means I often begin an investigation in one city or state and end up in another by the end of the day. That said, it has little to do with the police, outside of letting them know we are there so they don’t respond to suspicious vehicle complaints.
Private investigators that investigate criminal cases isn't all together uncommon, but they're typically not out there actively investigating open murder cases and the like as you see on TV. Instead they're a specialized subset of private investigators known as legal investigators that are employed by private attorneys, public defender's offices, etc. during the trial phase in order to gather evidence, review discovery materials, conduct interviews of witnesses, and provide qualified testimony -- typically with the intent of casting reasonable doubt on the prosecution's case or at least mitigating the charges being brought against the client/defendant in question. District Attorneys and State Attorney's Offices also tend to likewise have a staff of dedicated legal investigators (sometimes called Special Investigators or some such) to carry out similar roles in reverse: gathering additional evidence to bolster the prosecution's case, conducting interviews, serving court orders, going over the extant evidence with the detectives who conducted the initial investigation/arrest, and "coaching" the police officers set to take the stand on their testimony. I've heard of some also taking a more active role in initial criminal investigations within their community directly alongside local, state, and federal law enforcement. The primary difference between private legal investigators and state/district attorney investigators is that the latter are certified peace officers with arrest powers and are almost unanimously ex-LEOs to begin with -- oftentimes former detectives/criminal investigators with years of experience. My own area tends to see a lot of retired homicide detectives get called up for the position depending on their connections.
i wanted to become a detective with the police force, but found out you needed 20/20 vision to become a cop. i wear glasses, and i COULD wear contact lenses if needed. i am considering private investigator because my dream career has been shattered :(
Most states require 20/30 corrected or uncorrected. In other words, if your uncorrected vision is worse than 20/30 but can be corrected to 20/30 with glasses or contact lenses, you've met the criteria. If law enforcement is truly something you're interested in pursuing, I suggest you look more closely at your states requirements. Typically, officers start their career in patrol and advance per their experience and performance evaluations. It is unusual for someone to assume the responsibility and/or position of detective without spending at least a few years on the road as a patrol officer. Hope that helps and good luck.
Are you from the UK? In the UK you can become a Police Detective/Detective Constable without prior patrol experience. There is a detective direct entry program. In the USA in order to become a Police Detective you have to stay on patrol a minimum of 4 years before you can even apply for a Detective position.
Not very accurate at all....depends on who the private investigator works for......most cops think PI are idiots...but many PI have far more training and education than cops do....Where I live the County hires me to investigate the police...yep they do....
I've been a Police Officer, Police Detective, and a P.I. .. It is very different. As a P.I. I found myself working for attorney's, locating people, writing reports, and doing surveillance. Typically as a Cop, my life was different.
Well my comment is simply to thank you for the job you do in serving your community and trying to keep law and order I want to thank you most especially now since police officers are under attack by the radical left keep up the good work sir
I think in Texas a P.I. can do some Criminal investigations if higher by family members or company. In Texas a Commission security and P.I. are officers under Texas law. There Commission are privately sponsored. Not like Cops, that their Commissions is sponsor by the city or county that they work in.
The few cases I'm aware of where private investigators worked on criminal investigations were complex insurance fraud cases, where the insurance companies' investigators were actually welcomed by state or local law enforcement agencies. In those cases, the PIs had expertise and access to tools that made it worthwhile to include them. The problem I saw with those cases was that the involvement of unsworn, non-deputized agents sometimes caused concerns in the courts, or issues under LE confidentiality laws.
Lots of insurance companies and banks pay big money to investigate white collar crime. Whether you consider that "serious crime" or not I guess is open to opinion. Great retirement gig though. I have a buddy who went to work for an insurance company and investigates big money car crash cases for fraudulent claims and such. As you could imagine that isn't the type of thing that the cops even care about once the cars are cleared from the road and the accident report is done.
@@freefieldtraining It really is a great retirement gig. Better money than you've ever made, with far less stress and generally a far safer environment.
I am renewing my license as we speak in private Investigation, in my training thier are variety of investigators forensic, accidents reconstruction, arson, FBI,CIA, ect. .. so Depending on your license and certification requirements
In 1972 my sister ran away. I remember my and my mom went to see the local detective branch of PD. They told poor mom she was wasting her time, forget about it. She'll NEVER find her. Can you imagine a public official telling a tax paying citizen that? Well... we had a neighbor who was a state official who gave the case to one of the PIs the state would hire. A year went by when the neighbor called and said the investigator said we would find her at such and such a place. Mom went and there she was. Cops only worry when they can stick a feather one they hat. And get a thumbs ups from the state DA.
Most places I worked with security most of us were also infantry (almost exclusively infantry and medics). Did not have any issues with the cops, some places the bars would pay the local PD to have a cop on standby so we could quickly react to situations, then hand off to the cops as required. Have had the cops back me up when I got into rough situation (one I was sure I was about to have my ass kicked and right before it went down I heard some one say hands up, and the shunk of an asp coming out. I looked back and saw two cops, one with the asp, one with a taser. That situation ended immediately. We had a number of small level racially divided gang fights in some of the bars I worked in (who's great idea it was for the Lebanese, Black, and Asian gangs to hang out at the same place is beyond me, fortunately the white and native gangs avoided that particular place though did show up a lot to anther bar I worked at, though there was a lack of race based divide there).
I’m a sheriffs deputy in Texas and to make extra money i bounty hunt. The way it works in Texas is bounty hunters have to have the police transport the skips to jail. I’m allowed to use my gear that says sheriff to bounty hunt but I’m not sure how I feel about that I just put warrant service patches on my sheriffs vest if you were in my position would you wear your police gear or gear specific for bounty hunting
Personally I wouldn't wear anything that identifies me as a cop in off-duty employment. Seems like it would invite liability and unnecessary attention. I would want patches that clearly identify me as a fugitive recovery agent / bail bondsman, etc.
Barracuda Shoop I have a really, really hard time believing you're a Deputy Sheriff. You seem like either a 12 year old kid or just a weirdo creepy wannabe.
Do you need a law enforcement experience to be PI? Also do I need a license to be a PI? I’m from San Diego California. I like to learn more about PI and thinking about pursuing a PI field. Thank you
To clarify, the LOL was because I found the delivery hilarious and the statement was true. Sure, but then what to do with them? What happens to you if you're in the wrong? That said, in my home State, it is codified that "any person may arrest a felon or thief" and take them to the Magistrate. That is something I'd rather not try. Ever.
Ikea here actually has their loss prevention doing investigative work. Fraud is more common than theft at Ikea, so they spend a lot of time going through transaction records and stuff.
@@freefieldtraining Both. The LPO staff in store will identify and track certain individuals once things like credit card or return fraud is suspected. For individuals repeatedly defrauding the store its handled similar to any other theft, with evidence being gathered and police being contacted. You'd be surprised how many people will come back every couple of days with a different credit card. For larger cases it goes up the chain.
I've seen that with Macy's LP but it always seems to be at the district level and they'll have the specialist come out once they have the person stopped. Macy's and target do really good intelligence gathering on retail theft rings.
@@freefieldtraining The ikea I worked at had a pool of LP staff, mostly doing normal LP anti theft and general security things. But if you had some seniority you could get trained as an investigator and handle a lot of that stuff on site. Ikeas are paired with 'sister stores' that share resources though, so from time to time people would travel between the stores to assist if one store didn't have the resources.
I should mention that this is in canada, so the distance between the nearest sister stores was like 4+ hours highway drive. So having resources in store was a little more necessary
Hey, I used to be a security guard, supervising 3 sites. I recently quit about 2 months ago to become a private investigator. If I stay doing this for 5 years or so. Can I be a detective for the police? Being that I already have experience with patrols from security and surveillance from being a P.I. ? Also is it appropriate for a P.I. like me to also use the title private detective?
You will not be able to go straight to being a police detective. you will still need to attend the police academy, get some field experience and qualify to be a detective. I came close to this when I was thinking about leaving the Air Force years ago. I was offered a "Specialist" position with the Las Vegas PD and would have been investigating child and elderly deaths. I would have had a gun and a specialist police badge and would not have to go to the academy or be a beat cop. But they were basing this off my experience as an Air Force Special Agent. I turned down the job and stayed in 7 more year. www.theintercessorgroup.com/pi-career-course
PIs and cops are BFFs, I must say. We have lots of PI clients that are helping the law enforcement to solve crimes. They are both amazing in different ways, with the same goals of discovering the truth and bring justice.
I am currently working my way towards a PI and Security license in Canada. Most PI jobs, like you said make up investigations on loss prevention and insurance liabilities. Sometimes you’ll get proof of infidelity cases. Although not as action packed as the movies like to portray PI’s as it is still challenging and fun and a great experience towards a career in policing.
I have been a private investigator for 37 years. A P.I. can and do criminal investigations. The law says you can. You can do criminal defense. Bail enforcements. In some states you have to be a P.I. or police in Texas and Arkansas come to mind. All so William dear. Worked on homicide investigations and missing persons. This is what he is famous for. He is in the police officer hall of fame as a private investigfor for helping to solving
A murder investigation that resulted in 11 persons going to prison. He worked with the police they gave him credit for this thats why he is in the hall of fame. I know many P.I. that work rape cases burglary cases murders ext... Every one arrested has a right to a defense. They do the same thing as police detective in reverse.
In my state there are a lot of former law enforcement officers that get into private investigating. Cops have no problem with PI's. We frequently used to get advisals from them when they set up to do surveillances. When it comes to similarities between police work and PI work, surveillance happens in both lines of work. In police work it is usually done by special units such as narcotics and a few others. Not always filming in police work though.
Private Investigators are licensed professionals who can investigate civil or criminal matters. They primarily build cases for litigation with law firms...They investigate wrongful death, auto accidents, medical malpractice food poisoning, fraud, child abuse. They also handle corporate espionage, financial crimes (banks,insurance companies) Pi’s track and apprehend fugitives on behalf of bond agents. All government investigative agencies in this country are based off of and modeled after a private investigate agency called The Pinkerton National Detective Agency.The private sector was the first investigative law enforcement agency in the U.S. (Look it up) More over private investigators also lead in combating human trafficking and cyber security...Just a little additional info to chew on! God Bless!
The way I see it is, you either want to do FBI, PI, COs, Police, Sheriff, Military, Swat, Task Force, homicide detective, child protective service etc.. each are all personality and skill based careers. I'm a low key person and I wouldnt want to have to draw a weapon everyday, also as a PI, I feel that you're still doing "police" work but just in the background. EVERY role is essentially needed. Furthermore every job has something "boring". If I were a PI, I'd be bored following a cheating spouse. If I were a police officer, I'd be bored doing traffic duty. By the year 2021, PI career is expected to grow by 3,041. This means that the PI careers are expanding into other fields. I wish someone would really talk about PI day to day so other people can decide if this is the right career for them. I have yet found a video.
Most annoying call I have heard of was someone calling 911 about the incorrect pizza toppings on their pizza that was just delivered. And they keep calling back till a few officers had to show up to the callers residence to inform them with possible arrest for crank calls and harassing the 911 operators for falsely reporting an emergency that was a non emergency call. Some people are just obsessed with pizza and the toppings they want, lol.
Tommy I understand the annoying security guard issues. I have been in the security field for over 25 years. Up here in Canada we have a college program (police foundations) for people can't take to assist them with getting on a police service. But when we get graduates from this program the first thing I tell them you are working security you are not on a police service, so shelve the book knowledge. It's these people that give security a bad name. They try too much and too hard. As you have said when the police arrive on site give them quick briefing on what happened then stand back and let them do their job.
We’ve had several PIs come to the local area driving blacked out Chrysler 300s or blacked out Honda Accords that bystanders call 911 about. “Suspicious vehicle parked at such and such....”
did he come from the U.S? because chasing and trying to apprehend someone in a different country is illegal. especially just being a simple powerless bounty hunter.
Anyone can "investigate" crimnal cases. As an attorney. I've done it countless times. The method of use of the "data" is different. Frankly, if it is a non-cop investigating such a matter it is because no one cares what the cops think. The data goes to the DA or, in all my cases, DoJ. Your opions here represent the lowest possible level of investigations. How much work have you done on criminal actions wherein billions are at stake? Great work for it's scale, but extremely myopic. Every American has an unrestricted right to investigate crime. Interference with governmental work on the same crime can be a serious problem, unless, for example, it is criminal governmental action. Where on Earth do you think the entire field of journalism fits in? I respect your work greatly. But your legal opinions are based on a career in law enforcement, not law. To the young lady, get a law degree. You can jump right over this little stuff.
Yes, as long as there is no obstruction of an ongoing investigation anyone can investigate anything. But, nobody is hiring private eyes to investigate hot murder cases and those private eyes aren't then getting into car chases and shootouts to catch the bad guys like on TV.
Cops can kind of tell because they speak the same language. The same is true for military veterans. You just kind of know one when you see one. By the way they talk or carry themselves.
So why wouldn't cops investigate stolen property where the man left finger prints on the window? I had that happen, and cops refused to even write a police report cause they said fingerprints takes time and they would have to eliminate all the family members. THE MAN"S HAND PRINT WAS ON THE WINDOW! Keystone cops at their finest imho! BTW--I found out it was a tow truck driver doing NIGHTS and going around and breaking into cars in neighborhoods, but cops didn't believe it.
I’m a private investigator and I get paid $35 an hour which on average a cop gets paid $30 an hour. 100% of my coworkers are ex law enforcement, I’m the only one who’s not And I get paid the least . My coworkers get paid $50 an hour. The company I work for charges $139 an hour.. this guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about I investigate illegal stuff on a daily basis because cops aren’t doing anything about it so I solve it. We have more access to backgrounds and bank searches and getting Intel on an individual than cops do. When a police department is hiring for new police officers they hire my company to do background checks on individuals... my company has been hired from people who have been falsely convicted of murder to prove their innocence and we have done so also I work burglary and assault cases all the time.. And just to let you people know there is a difference between private investigating an executive protection. Executive protection is an private security team that a lot of private investigators do.
@@freefieldtraining you made this whole video in a sense putting down P.I's and when you see how wrong you are in this video you're going to say its good to see people making money. You're full of shit bro lolololol.
PI's rarely even carry. They rarely find themselves in the situation where that would be necessary. So yes of course they are t the ones killing people
Anyone ever tell you that you look like Ben Bailey? Every time I watch one of your videos, I hear cash cab. You really need the lights on the headliner
US CUSTOMS HAS MICROSOFT PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS WORK ON PRIVACY CASES WITH THEM BUY IDENTIFYING WINDOWS OPERATING SYSTEMS , THAT RESULTED IN ARREST OF CHINESE IMMIGRATES FOR COUNTERFEITING, PRIVACY OF MICROSOFT PRODUCTS, THAT WAS SIZED FOR EVIDENCE.
Does Cook Co have a holdover 'Auxiliary' from the Civil Defense days? We do (armed and have Peace Officer status when on a detail), and have generally positive relationships with the patrol officers. There is occasionally an undercurrent of 'wannabe' / 'overtime stealer' attitude, though. Especially from a particular muni. The County suits love us, of course, because we're practically free. Any experience with Aux peeps or suggestions for gaining a semblance of peer-respect? ...ala the "Same Team" mentality you mentioned re: skip-chasers?
We don't really have that much here. There are part timers but no real "voulenteer" cops here. Nearby lake county Indiana though has many auxiliary sheriff's deputies and some of their small towns have reserve or auxiliary police officers that do things like direct traffic and such. They don't generally answer criminal calls for service alone though.
What do cops think about Corrections Officers???
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Thanks for the Video! Apologies for butting in, I would appreciate your thoughts. Have you heard the talk about - Haaneely Undetected Approach (Have a quick look on google can't remember the place now)? It is a great one of a kind product for discovering the dirty secrets and mind control games of a spy without the headache. Ive heard some amazing things about it and my buddy finally got excellent results with it.
what do cops thank of Bounty Hunters
PI's do the jobs that Police Detectives cant. The dirty work that the dept wouldn't allow an officer to perform without repercussions. The PI is flexible in this way. Lots of advantages over "cops"
This explains why cops lay off cases on murdered ppl and abuse
I've known more than a few retired cops that went the PI route and seemed to do well.
Police usually retire and become security or PI for the same reason paramedics usually retire and become registered nurses- they can do half the work with half the risk and get paid twice as much.
Security and police is a never ending cycle- security usually becomes police (like Tommy here) and police usually retire and become security.
What about PIs that became detectives?
@@halo091 Even if lots of cops say that P.I experience doesn't count or help they're wrong.P.I experience can be used in police work.As a P.I you learn to tail cars in traffic,conduct surveillance,find missing persons etc. All of these are valuable skills needed in the police force.
P.S : I'm sorry if my English is bad.
I am a PI and I do fugitive recovery with a agency. Its a absolute blast. I am also a commissioned(armed) security officer on the side. But I have not done any other PI work besides fugitive recovery. I am told it is pretty fun depending on what you do or what your mission/goal is. Thanks for another great video as always good sir!!!
That's sounds exciting
Ah snatch and grab boys we can't do that here in my state hell bounty hunters are illegal here its a vipers nest
@Richard James I've worked in PA I'm licensed in PA but I'm in Kentucky it pays more but go to either Pittsburgh or Philly your gonna find us
HAZMAN THE GREAT I am planning to be a private investigator when I am older, but what Is fugitive recorvery?
@@yakamarezlife I'll straight Jack slap you DOGG
In oregon, attorney's constantly hire private investigators to work on a criminal case that they are dealing with in hope to show they are innocent. Also I think it's so they can see if they are guilty too for personal reasons. But like I said they do investigate criminal matters often sex crimes and murders.
That's also the case in Oklahoma. There are several agencies in Oklahoma that specifically help try to find missing and runaway children and teens.
I'm a state licensed armed private investigator, armed security guard, and process server in Oklahoma.
being from oregon myself why is it so damn hard to become a PI in Oregon
They are not called private investigators. They are criminal defense investigators.(CDI). Usually they are paid through the court after attorney billing. They are just like the prosecutors use government investigators. Commissioned by the attorney, normally registered through the court to do this.
For crimes without violence, the PI hired must have skills/knowledge/background in certain professional fields ( e.g Business/ Finance/ Law/ IT / Sociology/ the field the suspicious person is in ) ;
for crimes with violence , the PI hired have safety concern , so the former LEO/ Cops the best choice ( in the countries where the PI industry is not regulated so rigid as USA, the former gangster good choice as well )
I love how you start by talking about the portrayal of PIs in Hollywood, then inform us on the "normal " jobs of a real private investigator. Great video man.
Thank you so much for your time and service. I really appreciate all your efforts to provide good content and help people how law enforcement works. Thank you again. And God bless you and your family.
I'm a Private Detective, licensed in MD, PA, N.Y., OH and MA. 98% of our business is Workmans Comp cases. The other 2% are Alive & Well checks, interviews and GOTCHA reports.
Is your name Mannix?
In my experience the only real cross-over between PI & cop work is when the better & more honest sort of PI investigation starts off as a civil matter but uncovers criminal activity that results in the case being handed over, exactly like you mentioned. To be fair most PI's I've come across have been professional and dedicated. A fair few seem to be retired detectives. Edited to add: most of the handed-over cases I've seen have been fraud or similar matters.
You missed a lot of things that private investigators do. For one we have access to the same database as most police agencies to do background checks and to do research on the claimants. For two at least in Las Vegas I deal with police almost on a weekly basis working cases. However I also work a lot of cases with attorneys and with the courts.
I do everything from criminal investigation defense cases, Insurance fraud process serving, accident investigations and many other things. Even when I do accident investigations I’m the one taking charge working directly with Las Vegas metro police trying to reconstruct how the accident happened and who was at fault. I also do SIU work. I’ve conducted interviews even in gels and prisons for cold cases.
We also do in fact conduct investigation work for missing person cases where we will go to jobs look at footage conduct interviews and do everything we can to look up someone who went missing.
15:42 Loss prevention / Asset Protection isn't always about catching shoplifters. I work at Walmart and 30% of the time I'm looking for shoplifters on camera or walking the sales floor. About 40% of the time I'm investigating safety & policy issues, time clock theft, and shrink in the store (inventory or financial loss). The other 30 % of the time I am diving deep into data pertaining to register shorts, return fraud, and other internal theft problems. At other stores like CVS drug store their LP only catches shoplifters and has nothing to do with investigating internal theft.
Been studying and will be taking the Florida C license in December so I can make some extra money as a PI.
P.I.'s are involved a lot in reaching out to witnesses in criminal cases too!
Two additions to this conversation: When I was a kid, in Indiana, back after High School in the 1980s, there was no separate "Security Guard" license. In order to work as a Security Guard, you got a State "Private Investigator" license. The second is that there are companies who hire "Investigators" who conduct background checks on entry level Federal employees.
Free Field Training, I retired as a law enforcement officer from Jersey, back in 2015 after 28 years of service. I remember when I was on the job, officers would speak negatively about security officers now those same officers are retired, working as armed security officers for a security company that has all the contracts for Motor Vehicle, it goes to show you the hypocrisy of some of these guys they talk out of their asses.
Thank you for your time and service, I’m trying to lose weight for the academy. I was wandering if you had any exercise or diet tips?
I’ve been a private investigator for a number of years and have almost never conducted the “secret shopper” type investigations that you describe. Myself, and the vast majority of PIs that I know, do mostly surveillance, skip tracing, and interviewing. Cases are often insurance related, infidelity, and child custody. It takes a lot of research and patience, but it’s not a boring job by any means. We usually work alone, and also aren’t confined to a jurisdiction. Which means I often begin an investigation in one city or state and end up in another by the end of the day. That said, it has little to do with the police, outside of letting them know we are there so they don’t respond to suspicious vehicle complaints.
Private investigators that investigate criminal cases isn't all together uncommon, but they're typically not out there actively investigating open murder cases and the like as you see on TV. Instead they're a specialized subset of private investigators known as legal investigators that are employed by private attorneys, public defender's offices, etc. during the trial phase in order to gather evidence, review discovery materials, conduct interviews of witnesses, and provide qualified testimony -- typically with the intent of casting reasonable doubt on the prosecution's case or at least mitigating the charges being brought against the client/defendant in question.
District Attorneys and State Attorney's Offices also tend to likewise have a staff of dedicated legal investigators (sometimes called Special Investigators or some such) to carry out similar roles in reverse: gathering additional evidence to bolster the prosecution's case, conducting interviews, serving court orders, going over the extant evidence with the detectives who conducted the initial investigation/arrest, and "coaching" the police officers set to take the stand on their testimony. I've heard of some also taking a more active role in initial criminal investigations within their community directly alongside local, state, and federal law enforcement. The primary difference between private legal investigators and state/district attorney investigators is that the latter are certified peace officers with arrest powers and are almost unanimously ex-LEOs to begin with -- oftentimes former detectives/criminal investigators with years of experience. My own area tends to see a lot of retired homicide detectives get called up for the position depending on their connections.
My dad was a cop. He used to call P.I.s creep n peeps
i wanted to become a detective with the police force, but found out you needed 20/20 vision to become a cop. i wear glasses, and i COULD wear contact lenses if needed. i am considering private investigator because my dream career has been shattered :(
Where do you live? I’ve never heard of this before?
Most states require 20/30 corrected or uncorrected. In other words, if your uncorrected vision is worse than 20/30 but can be corrected to 20/30 with glasses or contact lenses, you've met the criteria. If law enforcement is truly something you're interested in pursuing, I suggest you look more closely at your states requirements. Typically, officers start their career in patrol and advance per their experience and performance evaluations. It is unusual for someone to assume the responsibility and/or position of detective without spending at least a few years on the road as a patrol officer. Hope that helps and good luck.
Are you from the UK? In the UK you can become a Police Detective/Detective Constable without prior patrol experience. There is a detective direct entry program.
In the USA in order to become a Police Detective you have to stay on patrol a minimum of 4 years before you can even apply for a Detective position.
@@MrRainbowSprinkles depends on the state you live in
Not very accurate at all....depends on who the private investigator works for......most cops think PI are idiots...but many PI have far more training and education than cops do....Where I live the County hires me to investigate the police...yep they do....
How did you go about becoming a P.I?
Well the private investigators aren’t the ones killing people for no reason so🤷🏿♂️
I'm a PI. Most of my work is criminal defense. Hired by lawyers and court appointed. Work very closely with our DA, Sheriff's Dept., And local PDs.
I've been a Police Officer, Police Detective, and a P.I. .. It is very different. As a P.I. I found myself working for attorney's, locating people, writing reports, and doing surveillance. Typically as a Cop, my life was different.
Well my comment is simply to thank you for the job you do in serving your community and trying to keep law and order I want to thank you most especially now since police officers are under attack by the radical left keep up the good work sir
I think in Texas a P.I. can do some Criminal investigations if higher by family members or company. In Texas a Commission security and P.I. are officers under Texas law. There Commission are privately sponsored. Not like Cops, that their Commissions is sponsor by the city or county that they work in.
The few cases I'm aware of where private investigators worked on criminal investigations were complex insurance fraud cases, where the insurance companies' investigators were actually welcomed by state or local law enforcement agencies. In those cases, the PIs had expertise and access to tools that made it worthwhile to include them. The problem I saw with those cases was that the involvement of unsworn, non-deputized agents sometimes caused concerns in the courts, or issues under LE confidentiality laws.
Lots of insurance companies and banks pay big money to investigate white collar crime. Whether you consider that "serious crime" or not I guess is open to opinion. Great retirement gig though. I have a buddy who went to work for an insurance company and investigates big money car crash cases for fraudulent claims and such. As you could imagine that isn't the type of thing that the cops even care about once the cars are cleared from the road and the accident report is done.
@@freefieldtraining It really is a great retirement gig. Better money than you've ever made, with far less stress and generally a far safer environment.
As long as you don't mind driveing all over hell and tarnation.
15:40 - The detective work would probably be more of the internal investigations.
I am renewing my license as we speak in private Investigation, in my training thier are variety of investigators forensic, accidents reconstruction, arson, FBI,CIA, ect. .. so Depending on your license and certification requirements
Damn you a cop in Chicago. I’m sorry 😐
Lmao
In 1972 my sister ran away. I remember my and my mom went to see the local detective branch of PD. They told poor mom she was wasting her time, forget about it. She'll NEVER find her. Can you imagine a public official telling a tax paying citizen that? Well... we had a neighbor who was a state official who gave the case to one of the PIs the state would hire. A year went by when the neighbor called and said the investigator said we would find her at such and such a place. Mom went and there she was. Cops only worry when they can stick a feather one they hat. And get a thumbs ups from the state DA.
It can pay a little better than "decent"
Most places I worked with security most of us were also infantry (almost exclusively infantry and medics). Did not have any issues with the cops, some places the bars would pay the local PD to have a cop on standby so we could quickly react to situations, then hand off to the cops as required. Have had the cops back me up when I got into rough situation (one I was sure I was about to have my ass kicked and right before it went down I heard some one say hands up, and the shunk of an asp coming out. I looked back and saw two cops, one with the asp, one with a taser. That situation ended immediately. We had a number of small level racially divided gang fights in some of the bars I worked in (who's great idea it was for the Lebanese, Black, and Asian gangs to hang out at the same place is beyond me, fortunately the white and native gangs avoided that particular place though did show up a lot to anther bar I worked at, though there was a lack of race based divide there).
Question: If I am looking for a PI, should I go through an attorney or is it safe to find a reputable one with a google search?
I know this was a while back. but I would go with a reputable attorney with experience in whatever field you need a PI for
I’m a sheriffs deputy in Texas and to make extra money i bounty hunt. The way it works in Texas is bounty hunters have to have the police transport the skips to jail. I’m allowed to use my gear that says sheriff to bounty hunt but I’m not sure how I feel about that I just put warrant service patches on my sheriffs vest if you were in my position would you wear your police gear or gear specific for bounty hunting
Personally I wouldn't wear anything that identifies me as a cop in off-duty employment. Seems like it would invite liability and unnecessary attention. I would want patches that clearly identify me as a fugitive recovery agent / bail bondsman, etc.
BarkyLondon ok man thanks
Barracuda Shoop I have a really, really hard time believing you're a Deputy Sheriff. You seem like either a 12 year old kid or just a weirdo creepy wannabe.
xXSgtWolfXx happy you have a opinion and I’m 25 I am a cop and people don’t really need to see my face on RUclips or know my real name
Barracuda Shoop sounds like a conflict of interest issue their.
Do you need a law enforcement experience to be PI? Also do I need a license to be a PI? I’m from San Diego California. I like to learn more about PI and thinking about pursuing a PI field. Thank you
You never know fear until you work surveillance in a gang infested or drug cartel neighborhood.....not fun!
hey, can you make a video on StarChase GPS tracking projectiles? It would be super cool to see a field training video on how those work
Anyone can arrest anybody and it doesn't really matter.
LOL
To clarify, the LOL was because I found the delivery hilarious and the statement was true.
Sure, but then what to do with them? What happens to you if you're in the wrong?
That said, in my home State, it is codified that "any person may arrest a felon or thief" and take them to the Magistrate. That is something I'd rather not try. Ever.
To clarify civilian arresting someone is named kidnapping
Ikea here actually has their loss prevention doing investigative work. Fraud is more common than theft at Ikea, so they spend a lot of time going through transaction records and stuff.
Major credit card companies dot he same. But you are talking only the big money cases there. Does ikea do that at the store level or district level?
@@freefieldtraining Both. The LPO staff in store will identify and track certain individuals once things like credit card or return fraud is suspected. For individuals repeatedly defrauding the store its handled similar to any other theft, with evidence being gathered and police being contacted. You'd be surprised how many people will come back every couple of days with a different credit card.
For larger cases it goes up the chain.
I've seen that with Macy's LP but it always seems to be at the district level and they'll have the specialist come out once they have the person stopped. Macy's and target do really good intelligence gathering on retail theft rings.
@@freefieldtraining The ikea I worked at had a pool of LP staff, mostly doing normal LP anti theft and general security things. But if you had some seniority you could get trained as an investigator and handle a lot of that stuff on site.
Ikeas are paired with 'sister stores' that share resources though, so from time to time people would travel between the stores to assist if one store didn't have the resources.
I should mention that this is in canada, so the distance between the nearest sister stores was like 4+ hours highway drive. So having resources in store was a little more necessary
Hey, I used to be a security guard, supervising 3 sites. I recently quit about 2 months ago to become a private investigator. If I stay doing this for 5 years or so. Can I be a detective for the police? Being that I already have experience with patrols from security and surveillance from being a P.I. ?
Also is it appropriate for a P.I. like me to also use the title private detective?
Yes you can
You will not be able to go straight to being a police detective. you will still need to attend the police academy, get some field experience and qualify to be a detective. I came close to this when I was thinking about leaving the Air Force years ago. I was offered a "Specialist" position with the Las Vegas PD and would have been investigating child and elderly deaths. I would have had a gun and a specialist police badge and would not have to go to the academy or be a beat cop. But they were basing this off my experience as an Air Force Special Agent. I turned down the job and stayed in 7 more year. www.theintercessorgroup.com/pi-career-course
my dad wanted to be a cop but couldn't because of a temper that is like a stick of dynamite lit on both ends from an animal abuse call.
Idk about on behalf of the police department. But it is very common that families of missing persons will hire PIs in conjunction with police.
PIs and cops are BFFs, I must say. We have lots of PI clients that are helping the law enforcement to solve crimes. They are both amazing in different ways, with the same goals of discovering the truth and bring justice.
Private 👀 There watching you! There watching your every move..
I am currently working my way towards a PI and Security license in Canada.
Most PI jobs, like you said make up investigations on loss prevention and insurance liabilities. Sometimes you’ll get proof of infidelity cases. Although not as action packed as the movies like to portray PI’s as it is still challenging and fun and a great experience towards a career in policing.
What cops think about Executive protection agents
Nice video sir! Keep them coming!!! 💯
I would work with police and the family in helping locate missing persons
Cops are the nicest to me when they come to my car after someone calls in my vehicle. I tell them I’m a P.I. And they even help me keep my cover
5:26 in colorado there is no liscence so you can investigate anything you want. I recomend going after missing people and traffickers.
I have been a private investigator for 37 years. A P.I. can and do criminal investigations. The law says you can. You can do criminal defense. Bail enforcements. In some states you have to be a P.I. or police in Texas and Arkansas come to mind. All so William dear. Worked on homicide investigations and missing persons. This is what he is famous for. He is in the police officer hall of fame as a private investigfor for helping to solving
A murder investigation that resulted in 11 persons going to prison. He worked with the police they gave him credit for this thats why he is in the hall of fame. I know many P.I. that work rape cases burglary cases murders ext... Every one arrested has a right to a defense. They do the same thing as police detective in reverse.
In my state there are a lot of former law enforcement officers that get into private investigating. Cops have no problem with PI's. We frequently used to get advisals from them when they set up to do surveillances. When it comes to similarities between police work and PI work, surveillance happens in both lines of work. In police work it is usually done by special units such as narcotics and a few others. Not always filming in police work though.
hi iam john iam just getting into private investigator .do you have any info that will help me?
Private Investigators are licensed professionals who can investigate civil or criminal matters. They primarily build cases for litigation with law firms...They investigate wrongful death, auto accidents, medical malpractice food poisoning, fraud, child abuse. They also handle corporate espionage, financial crimes (banks,insurance companies) Pi’s track and apprehend fugitives on behalf of bond agents.
All government investigative agencies in this country are based off of and modeled after a private investigate agency called The Pinkerton National Detective Agency.The private sector was the first investigative law enforcement agency in the U.S. (Look it up)
More over private investigators also lead in combating human trafficking and cyber security...Just a little additional info to chew on! God Bless!
The way I see it is, you either want to do FBI, PI, COs, Police, Sheriff, Military, Swat, Task Force, homicide detective, child protective service etc.. each are all personality and skill based careers. I'm a low key person and I wouldnt want to have to draw a weapon everyday, also as a PI, I feel that you're still doing "police" work but just in the background. EVERY role is essentially needed.
Furthermore every job has something "boring". If I were a PI, I'd be bored following a cheating spouse. If I were a police officer, I'd be bored doing traffic duty.
By the year 2021, PI career is expected to grow by 3,041. This means that the PI careers are expanding into other fields.
I wish someone would really talk about PI day to day so other people can decide if this is the right career for them. I have yet found a video.
If you are a PI you should make a video about your day to day.
@@freefieldtraining as I stated, I would like to see a day to day so I can make a decision, but I ended up finding some. Thanks.
Most annoying call I have heard of was someone calling 911 about the incorrect pizza toppings on their pizza that was just delivered.
And they keep calling back till a few officers had to show up to the callers residence to inform them with possible arrest for crank calls and harassing the 911 operators for falsely reporting an emergency that was a non emergency call.
Some people are just obsessed with pizza and the toppings they want, lol.
How does someone get involved in being a private investigator
Can you please explain all the levels of security
What type of jobs as a crime scene technician do they have as in the private industries? Please and thank you
Tommy I understand the annoying security guard issues. I have been in the security field for over 25 years. Up here in Canada we have a college program (police foundations) for people can't take to assist them with getting on a police service. But when we get graduates from this program the first thing I tell them you are working security you are not on a police service, so shelve the book knowledge. It's these people that give security a bad name. They try too much and too hard. As you have said when the police arrive on site give them quick briefing on what happened then stand back and let them do their job.
Some private investigators are hired by lawyers to help with their cases
We’ve had several PIs come to the local area driving blacked out Chrysler 300s or blacked out Honda Accords that bystanders call 911 about. “Suspicious vehicle parked at such and such....”
Generally where I'm at they call us and let us know if they will be sitting on a location. I guess they are a bit more professional around here.
free field training Small town Louisiana.... They know what they’re supposed to do.... But think they can get away with not doing it.
Where's your Ferrari, Mustache and floral shirt???
Sounding alot like Archer with his fake mustache
"Police cars" on Nick of Duty
Also Miami Police vlog for police oloce car videos he does both.
I get many, many police officers calling me for a job. We do a lot of criminal, criminal defense, fraud, cyber crime etc cases
The question that I have for you is how do citizens arrest work?
Oh now I get to the end of video and you mention your going to make a vid on citizens arrest... sweet
Do you know any female cops? Would be greatly interested in a woman’s experience/perspective on becoming and life as an officer.
How did I miss the notification, what going on RUclips?
Private detectives are always frowned upon by the Indian cops .
A lot depends on the state your in. Some PI’s In big states make a lot of cash.
Bounty hunting north of the border , in Canada is illegal , the last time a bounty hunter came to Canada ,he ended up in a Canadian jail.
did he come from the U.S? because chasing and trying to apprehend someone in a different country is illegal. especially just being a simple powerless bounty hunter.
Anyone can "investigate" crimnal cases. As an attorney. I've done it countless times. The method of use of the "data" is different. Frankly, if it is a non-cop investigating such a matter it is because no one cares what the cops think. The data goes to the DA or, in all my cases, DoJ. Your opions here represent the lowest possible level of investigations. How much work have you done on criminal actions wherein billions are at stake?
Great work for it's scale, but extremely myopic.
Every American has an unrestricted right to investigate crime. Interference with governmental work on the same crime can be a serious problem, unless, for example, it is criminal governmental action. Where on Earth do you think the entire field of journalism fits in? I respect your work greatly. But your legal opinions are based on a career in law enforcement, not law.
To the young lady, get a law degree. You can jump right over this little stuff.
Yes, as long as there is no obstruction of an ongoing investigation anyone can investigate anything. But, nobody is hiring private eyes to investigate hot murder cases and those private eyes aren't then getting into car chases and shootouts to catch the bad guys like on TV.
@@freefieldtraining My private eye friend does murder cases and crime cases! He used to be a cop.
Cops can kind of tell because they speak the same language. The same is true for military veterans. You just kind of know one when you see one. By the way they talk or carry themselves.
can you be a pi without degree and what other steps can you take?
So why wouldn't cops investigate stolen property where the man left finger prints on the window? I had that happen, and cops refused to even write a police report cause they said fingerprints takes time and they would have to eliminate all the family members. THE MAN"S HAND PRINT WAS ON THE WINDOW! Keystone cops at their finest imho! BTW--I found out it was a tow truck driver doing NIGHTS and going around and breaking into cars in neighborhoods, but cops didn't believe it.
What about probation and parole officers?
What about probation and parole officers?
Our police departments use PIs with certain investigations because they can utilize tools that they may not be able to get warrants for.
I’m a private investigator and I get paid $35 an hour which on average a cop gets paid $30 an hour. 100% of my coworkers are ex law enforcement, I’m the only one who’s not
And I get paid the least . My coworkers get paid $50 an hour. The company I work for charges $139 an hour.. this guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about I investigate illegal stuff on a daily basis because cops aren’t doing anything about it so I solve it. We have more access to backgrounds and bank searches and getting Intel on an individual than cops do. When a police department is hiring for new police officers they hire my company to do background checks on individuals... my company has been hired from people who have been falsely convicted of murder to prove their innocence and we have done so also I work burglary and assault cases all the time.. And just to let you people know there is a difference between private investigating an executive protection. Executive protection is an private security team that a lot of private investigators do.
I always love to hear when dudes are doing well and making money.
Ian how can I contact you to be hired?
@@freefieldtraining you made this whole video in a sense putting down P.I's and when you see how wrong you are in this video you're going to say its good to see people making money. You're full of shit bro lolololol.
PI aren’t the ones killing people though 🤷🏿♂️
many officers go there whole career without shooting anybody...
forbidden not recently
PI's rarely even carry. They rarely find themselves in the situation where that would be necessary. So yes of course they are t the ones killing people
Most PI"s are excellent investigators that want to actually want to investigate rather that be civil police officers.
Anyone ever tell you that you look like Ben Bailey? Every time I watch one of your videos, I hear cash cab. You really need the lights on the headliner
Idk man, I am significantly fatter than that man.
How about what Pi’s think about cops?
Many PIs were cops, like myself.
Boy, he must be a cop with no idea about pi's. lol
Happens on schedule with honey pots for me.
The Name is Mannix .
Those birds behind u are private investigators...jokes on you buddy.
P.i is a job. I would do p.i for insurance fraud. Cheating wife or husband. Theft. Or just watch and observe. Tracking.
What do cops think about 1st amendment audits like from the RUclipsr SGV news
I do things the cops can't you can barely catch anyone ive gone to all 50 states to catch people but I agree it's boring some times
US CUSTOMS HAS MICROSOFT PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS WORK ON PRIVACY CASES WITH THEM BUY IDENTIFYING WINDOWS OPERATING SYSTEMS , THAT RESULTED IN ARREST OF CHINESE IMMIGRATES FOR COUNTERFEITING, PRIVACY OF MICROSOFT PRODUCTS, THAT WAS SIZED FOR EVIDENCE.
all this guys "what do cops think of blank" is always what he thinks about something haha
Competition they Don't like each other
Hi watching this 29minutes after the stream ended
Another great video
It’s good to have a loving family. Ya know? Wife and kids and all.
Does Cook Co have a holdover 'Auxiliary' from the Civil Defense days?
We do (armed and have Peace Officer status when on a detail), and have generally positive relationships with the patrol officers. There is occasionally an undercurrent of 'wannabe' / 'overtime stealer' attitude, though. Especially from a particular muni.
The County suits love us, of course, because we're practically free.
Any experience with Aux peeps or suggestions for gaining a semblance of peer-respect? ...ala the "Same Team" mentality you mentioned re: skip-chasers?
We don't really have that much here. There are part timers but no real "voulenteer" cops here. Nearby lake county Indiana though has many auxiliary sheriff's deputies and some of their small towns have reserve or auxiliary police officers that do things like direct traffic and such. They don't generally answer criminal calls for service alone though.
what do cops think about Loss Prevention
What about Loss & Prevention?
Sound quality is really bad
PI dont care or want to investigate criminal cases.
Some people watched 8mm one to many times.