in case anyone missed it In the cutscene battle where the "You are challenged by AI Sada" becomes "You are challenged by the Paradise Protection Protocol" In the glitch effects between, where the gibberish is, there is like 1 frame, a split second, where it says "AI Sada has no intention to battle" Really nice touch
@@kaiservonpanzer213 You can think whatever you want of gamefreak but credit where it’s due, it’s un fair to credit other people for the work and effort other people made
@@Didaggwell it’s not necessarily clear cut, if they hired him they probably like his work. Game Freak has been trying to please fans more in Arceus and the rest of ScarVio by incorporating more inspiration from other successful franchises. To me the final parts of the game definitely have some Undertale, some Nier, some Persona, and some old-school RPG influences. It’s not like the rest of the staff didn’t play all that
Especially knowing its the actual professor who is doing it, the last memories of the real professor seeping through even beyond the grave IT HITS HARD KNOWING JUST HOW FAR THE REAL PROFESSOR WOULD GO
This is one of the darkest Pokemon bosses ever. A long dead professor so engrossed in their work that it leads them to neglect their child. Their child finds them again only to see a robot wearing their parent's face. Make no mention that the very robot is trying to kill him and his friends to fulfill the goal that it's creator, the professor themself, programed the robot to achieve, condemning even the very ecosystem so their dreams would be met. And the robot wants nothing to do with it but is being forced to carry it out. I genuinely wonder if Toby Fox didn't just work on the music but Sada/Turo's character, because this seems like his ballpark.
Just learned this, and have to share it. Ok, so Arven mentions right before jumping into the Great Crater that the professor is 'railroading' them. The group consists of four people. All the way back in Red and Blue, if you check the TV in your room, the description mentions a film about four friends travelling down railroad tracks. This is a reference to the film Stand By Me. And what is it that the characters are searching for in that movie? A dead body.
I *love* how they had an interface screw.. also enjoy "initiated the battle" instead of just "challenged you to a battle" like.. just.. the small things go a long way..
@@a.x.x8184 did you miss the part where they wanted to bring the past/future Paradox mons to the present and destroy the ecosystems of the region? To quote the AI Turo but it's effectively the same for Scarlet: 'The original professor had a dream...of a world in which future Pokémon might live alongside present-day Pokémon in harmony. But these Pokémon have gained a strange power due to their adaptations in the distant future...and this power has proved too terrible. Their very existence brings destruction to the ecological balance of this current age. The original professor would say that such destruction is a natural part of life.'
@@a.x.x8184I mean I think child neglect makes you a villain already but they were also perfectly comfortable with letting the paradox mons loose and absolutely destroying the ecosystem (and likely posing an extreme danger to human lives as well, given what happened to the original prof and how hostile the paradox mons are in general), so like. Very villain, you know?
it's a huge overstatement to call them villains, especially when they literally wanted the paradoxes to live in harmony with ppl 💀 they didn't even get out of area zero by the time we get there. their intentions weren't evil, dgmw they let their work consume them so badly they neglected arven which is terrible as all hell but they are not in the same category as pokemon villains
Wolfey’s reaction is the most relatable for me. Fighting through Sada’s team, seeing the name “Roaring Moon”, not knowing what that is, and watching her toss the Master Ball to reveal a freaking SALAMENCE has got to be one of the scariest experiences. Iron Valiant is cool, but a past version of a pseudo-legendary just hits different.
I had no problems with the violet version boss fight, then again I did actually have the Ice Dark legendary that lowers the opponent's defense on my team. I honestly had a harder time fighting the electric gym in the game which I also have to honestly say that I respect their choice of pokemon that they Terastallize because they turn a pokemon with the ability levitate into a pure electric type eliminating the ground weakness which is something that I would do.
@Macdonald Cyclizard is not a Psuedo-Legend. Psuedo-Legendary Pokemon are late game, 3 Stage Pokemon (typically dragon), with a Base Stat Total of 600. Cyclizar is 501. They are as follows Dragonite, Tyranitar, Metagross and Salamence (the only region with two Psuedo Legends is Hoenn), Garchomp, Hydreigon, Goodra(Hisuian included), Kommo-o, Dragapult, and the actual Gen 9 Psuedo, Baxcalibur. Cyclizar is just the Present day variant to "Winged King" (Koraidon) and "Iron Serpent" (Miraidon). Cyclizar is a relatively common Pokemon, unlike its time warped relatives.
So many of us rush through the games to get into the competitive grind… But this game was different in that it had such an innocent and wholesome story with some truly deep and dark undertones. The adult me who still enjoys competitive Pokémon got to experience the feeling I got playing Pokémon red at the age of 6 all over again. I did not expect to be so happy with this game and I’m looking forward to the DLC for more than just new mons. I need to know what happens next, the lore component and environmental story telling is getting better with each new Pokémon game.
@@TS-uu4hp Yea. I'm looking forward to DLC because there's so much story and questions left unanswered. We solved the current problem, but we still don't know much about how it because possible with the crystals and how the 3rd legendary is connected. This DLC is gonna be so different from SWSH with actual story continuation. (I hope) So I'm excited.
@@thiccqiyanaenjoyer1099 Wolfey is a professional Pokémon player and a World Champion. His channel is largely devoted to competitive advice and using the interplay between types, abilities, held items, terrain, weather, and Pokémon. He's also incredibly cynical about the story of the games, because it's really been formulaic lately.
These are gold and I can relate. Seriously the ending blew me away. Not only were they willing to admit, very plainly, that the professor died, but the fight that came after, the music, the cutscenes, all of it was so cool!!!!!! Ahg, this is def up there with Volo/giratina for my fav pokemon moment.
I love how everyone collectively goes silent once they hear that the professor is dead because its SO UNEXPECTED. Also, "Please. Defeat me." Is one of the hardest lines ive ever heard in a video game, its so hype
Before the DLC Scarlet/Violet is probably the only story where every rival and antagonist genuinely wanted you to defeat them, instead of them prevailing against you Cassiopeia (Penny) wanted you to end Team Star, while the principal is more than happy to see your journey come to fruition; Nemona is happy she is no longer lonely at the top now that there's someone better than her; Arven wanted a companion that could help him through the trip. Hell, the very AI who is the final boss eagerly wished you to defeat them and put an end to the professor's twisted dream.
I was totally sure Turo went to the future and that's why the communication was so glitchy. I was shocked and devastated when I found out he's dead! The fact we find out the truth before Arven as well... Never thought a Pokemon game could make me cry at the end, this was a wild game!
I have a strange realization: AI Sada is neutral to you, the protection protocol is not. Knowing how AI learn overtime, that means the professor- way back from the start, was very aggressive about completing her research- since the Protection Protocol is an old build. Which also explains why Arven is a bit annoyed whenever someone addresses that his mother's the professor. *Dude. That's actually great storytelling.*
@Laura Berdugo Whenever anyone mentions to Arven that Sada/Turo is the Professor (aka their occupation), he gets annoyed because they're so head deep in their research that they've neglected their son's needs.
It's a really refreshing twist on usual AI tropes. Usually, you have the AI going to any means to achieve the goal it was programmed for, with the creator trying to stop it, here you have the long-dead creator being obsessed with their goal in spite of knowing perfectly well that it won't work out and will just destroy the ecosystem, while the AI fails to see the logic behind it and instead decides to defy their creator's wishes. Ironically, it works so much better than usual AI tropes: AIs, even sentient ones, are inherently beings of logic, so logically concluding that there was literally nothing good that could come of the original's goals makes sense, while obsession causing you to do bad things is a very human trait, so Sada/Turo downplaying and rationalizing the bad things that would come of their actions as just being part of life makes sense. It also doesn't completely throw the original Sada/Turo under the bus, because the AI acknowledges that they did genuinely love Arven and the fact that they decide to work against the original professor despite being programmed to think like them shows that the professor was a good person who was just too obsessed with their goal. It's likely that if they had survived their injuries, they would have realized how f*cked up what they were doing was and shut it down.
@@Missingno_Mineri dunno. The way the one book describes that their spouse left them seems so...bitter and annoyed. I think ai turo/sada just said that they truly loved him because the alternative would hurt him even more than this whole situation already did. "That boy" gives the impression they got saddled with unwanted baggage in the form of arven and seemed outright _indignant_ that their spouse left, like how _dare_ they had the audacity to leave. The spouse didn't even take arven with them either... it just sounds like neither of them were good people. They were smart people left with unchecked obsession in their field of interest--leaving someone like that presumably alone in area zero eventually made them go mad. Humans by nature are not logical, but the fact the ai still couldn't understand the professor despite what they knew, it just always felt like they really went off the deep end and the ai was the one who was "sane".
@@ShadowSkyX The professor's books scattered throughout Area Zero talk about their goals. Their motivation is, at least in part, to create an environment where "we three"(most likely referring to themself, Arven, and the first bike lizard) could thrive. At least in part, their motivation was to provide for Arven, but naturally their obsession blinded them to the harm their absence was doing.
honestly, this is one of the few games i would put under the cateogry of "games i want to experience for the first time again"...the story and especially the finale is just...perfect.
My favorite part of this game was watching my younger brother try and figure out that he needed to use his Koridon. He tried battling and running, and then said "Oh yeah" and tried to use a pokedoll. Professor Clavell's words echoed in his mind saying "This isn't the time for that." and we both burst out laughing.
Facing AI Turo for the first time, while knowing nothing about the game's ending is a memory I will cherish for quite some time. I don't care how unfinished the game was, not only did I have a lot of fun, everything that happened after you finish the 3 main storylines, aka the endgame is peak videogame experience.
ABSOLUTELY. i fought hard to not get spoiled. ai turos fight is my favourite fight to ever participate in, sent proper chills down my spine when it happened
@@RachelXKnight666 I mean, the whole robot thing was heavily foreshadowed Spoilers The big reveal was the reasoning behind everything, who was the real culprit and was the AI motivation for doing what it did, it was very clever to turn the formula upside down like that and the battle felt very epic
I always found it so chilling that the Master Ball from the portal was still shaking. That Pokemon just got kidnapped out of its time and is still fighting against it. With that tragic music over it. Damn.
My reaction: "I am an AI created by the professor with her memories and thoughts." Yeah, cool twist, but I kinda figured "The real professor passed away." OK BUT NOT THAT!
Please don’t hesitate to make another one of these! Like many people, I thought Turo had gone to the future (I played Violet), and had not seen this coming AT ALL. I’d been warned about the ending, but to have an actual confirmed death in Pokémon was shocking. No matter what people may say about this game, the music, atmosphere, and story for this part of the game was incredible. Kudos to Game Freak for actually having a legit plot twist and not being afraid to go dark with it.
I'm glad someone is actually sane. I have seen so many people just shitting on the game obsessively, when it's a fucking phenomenal game that has a couple issues that are getting patched out
@@bradleybarnett1469 Ok, the performance of the game is inexcusable. You can't even defend how much the game lags at times or the numerous bugs it had. But yes, those hating on the story and/or gameplay is just a brainless shitter. This gen has arguably the best story in any pokemon game, and the gameplay is just so damn fun. I will defend the story and the gameplay, but I won't defend the performance. But these are still amazing games and I will replay them over and over.
@@vgmaster02 I love it when visual glitches happen honestly. It’s hilarious that when Pokémon evolve they can be out of bounds or you can just fall through the floor.
The biggest twist was that the real "villain" is just dead before the game and we have to stop what they made. Everyone pausing when they realize the professor is just straight up dead (and thus leaving Arven an orphan) is heartbreaking Also between legends and SV, pokemon has been killing it with the final showdowns
It worse cause canonical his dad and mom are still the same so his other parent was just so fed up that they straight up abandoned him. While the other went crazy
something fun to note about these two: Sada is right-handed, and Turo is left-handed. Sada’s eyes flash red during the robot reveal, and Turo’s flash blue. and of course, they are both of Arven’s parents. they mirror one another pretty well.
Also the background when the Paradise Protection Protocol is activated changes color depending on the version! I thought that was a fun touch when I watched a Scarlet playthrough for the first time
this last story was absolutely amazing! it wasnt until we reached Crater Zero that i began suspecting that something was very wrong, but i thought it was some secret villain that was trying to masquerade as the professor...when i read AI Sada/Turo claiming that the real professor died a long time ago when one of the research stations collapsed, i just sat in shock and my heart broke for Arven
When I got to area zero I'd originally thought the professor was either being possessed, or was a fake within the area zero lab that wanted to escape as they acted very weird the entire time; But this was a twist I never expected. And not only that, but even the AI finds the original professor's plans abhorrent and wants you to stop them from effectively ruining the world.
I love how everyone was collectively upset by the reveal of the Professor having passed away; it really felt like we were all going through the stages of grief in a matter of minutes. Gamefreak blew this one out of the water in terms of storytelling, like, I know myself and many others are never going to recover from the shock of the big twist! I'm excited to see what we'll get in the future because even if this company never truly catches up with graphical expectations they sure as hell *do* care about their IP and it really showed with S/V + Legends Arceus especially. Not only in the writing, but in the way they've put so much care into every Pokemon included within the game. They all have their own dex-accurate quirks and I just think it's all extremely charming. I've been playing Pokemon since Blue/Red, now as a person in my 30s I'm truly grateful by how long we've got to be on this journey with Pokemon and that it just continues to get better. I'll never forget the first time I saw the animations and colors in Pokemon Crystal thinking it was so cool and immersive. That's the moment I became truly attached to the games and it's going to stay that way until I no longer exist physically on this planet. Well done and thank you, Gamefreak.
This ending was just.....wow say what you want about the rest of this game but the story is quite possibly one of the best in the series up there with the greatness of the black and white saga. I remember being completely caught off guard with a confirmed human death in the pokemon series. Poor Arven too, this ending was just a masterpiece.
TTar's playthroughs are amazing. The combination of him always beeing so invested in the lore/story (trying to explore everything, taking his time to look at ingame bookshelfs to read the books, trying to read in between the lines of anything a character says, sharing his thoughts and theories of what happened or could happen) + his reactions and things like 6:39. It's just so fun to watch him - love this guy
Yeah, you can tell he's having fun and loves exploring. The investment is great. Plus, he's the madman who would rush into a lvl 80 fight with 1 lvl 70 and a team of lvl 60s, so I respect him a lot
I'm genuinely shocked. I figured the professors went to the past/future respectfully and we're stuck, BUT THIS, MY GOD POKEMON REALLY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND HERE.
Dude… this is such a power move for the franchise to make the PROFESSOR of all people the real antagonist. The story writers deserve a raise cause I was absolutely not expecting this ever. Definitely one of the darkest Pokémon stories.
Been hoping you would do this. I loved this twist. Went in expecting the professor to be the villian, never expected them to be dead. Such a cool final battle though.
This story's great and all, but can the DLC not revolve around giving Arven endless trauma 💀 I love his story but gahd dayum did they give him a rough time, I feel bad for him
I want to know why Cyclizar of the past, and future, are Legendary but the present time are not. And why there isn't a mechanic for making a Cyclizar you catch your ride-on.
@@ghosty4 simple, pokemon back then and in the future are just way stronger than in the present. Koraidon and Miraidon are just the strongest ones that got pulled through. And having a cyclizar as a ridable is kinda redundant. If you met the legendaries later, I could see it. But with how the story is, there really isn't a reason to ride a downgrade.
I think its gonna be about the third legendary But i kinda would like a sequel game that tells the Story about it and also we could have the other characters get Focus too
i was kinda bullying turo during the story since i thought he just left his son due to super passionate research so you guess how much this dropped my jaw and one thing i like is that arven actually looks like a child of two professors. something that bugged me is that lillie's family has the same genes for some reason. arven sorta looks like he's a mix of both professors like how actual children work
Look at the books in the research stations, it kinda hints that Sada/Turo is Arven's other deadbeat parent who walked out of his life when he was born.
My theory was very odd. I neither saw the old journal pages nor made any theories before the fourth outpost. I thought, based on what AI Turo said about humans being unable to live through time travel, and the glitchy voice he had at the fourth outpost, that Turo had turned himself into a cybernetically-augmented being to easily travel through time and survive.
When he said humans could survive the trip one way but not returning, I fully thought he had jumped to the future in a bout of selfishness (which seems to be a semi-common theory). I like yours a lot better lol
I love small details like how the AIs’ faces look when challenged. AI sada keeps her face still, which sorta is like a wild predator preparing to pounce. AI Turo outwardly has an aggressive face which sort of gives of an aggressive robot with no remorse.
7:06 I'm wondering what he's talking about. Arven is in his late teens, he has no memories of his parent playing with him as a child, the event that killed his parent happened 4 years prior. He was still neglected.
comparing these two professors, I would say I prefer Turo more. Sada has the best design but after seeing her in action she needed more to make it feel better. Turo on the other hand has mannerisms and design changes that make you feel that he is out of control, his hair flaring up and his outfit actually fitting in with the background. Though I love both of these professors AI, I felt like Scarlet's professor was poorly implemented.
AI Sada is not as concerned with her appearance, much less as she lost the will to keep on doing the professor's work... but Sada has great fashion sense for being cavewoman-y.
I agree but I prefer Sada. Since she gives up the maternal role for her research, it feels like the story hits A LOT harder in scarlet. Honestly having a mad scientist that also happens to be a single mother is crazy as hell and outweighs Turo by a longshot for me, even though he looks so much more intent and menacing overall in the ending. (Then again it could also be because I was spoiler-free watching TyranitarTube play Scarlet lol)
They have different approaches, and I like both. AI Sada is calm, and moves smoother than AI Turo; she also doesn't let her eyes blink to show she's an AI. It only really becomes apparent that she really is a robot when the defense system kicks in and she moves twitchily. But her smooth, calm movements and soft, subtle expressions feel more like a woman; so when that warm expression as she asks you to stop her is replaced by the cold, arrogant disdain and detachment of the defense system, it's jarring. I shuddered when I saw it; it was really effective. At the same time, AI Turo is a bit more open physically about his status as a robot. He moves a bit more mechanically; his mouth and jaw movements are exaggerated, his broader shoulders seem boxier as he turns, and the lights blinking in his eyes are a "woah" moment. He's right in your face that he's a robot from the start, and is more expressive. And when the defense system takes over, the cruel, sinister smirk on his face was unnerving. His expressions of antagonism are more inherently masculine and overt than Sada's, making it feel more aggressive and evokes more stark fear than the dread of Sada's coldness. They're incredibly different approaches, using nearly the same dialogue; it's genius story telling.
You know a fight is gonna rule when the first thing an opponent brings out is one of Volcarona's paradox forms. Considering how terrifyingly powerful Volcarona is as well as champions long ago used it as their ace, along with the fact these variants are even stronger, it is intimidating as hell. Slither Wing and Iron Moth are my fav gen 9 mons hands down.
I love Slither Wing's shiny too, if I'm being completely honest I've never been the biggest fan of Volcarona's shiny but I feel like that color palette works so well on Slither wing, I'm kind of jealous as a Violet player, we just got stuck with chrome everything
I myself actually adore the chrome future Paradoxes lol, I have them all except for Hands, Thorns, and Moth. Odd thing about Scarlet, there was a big with Flutter Mane where if you used a Ghost shiny sandwich, you would have no Pokemon spawn in the bottom of AZ except for shiny Flutters. They patched it lmao. If possible, I would shiny hunt another Slither for you for one of the 3 I'm missing xd
This is probably one of the best boss fights with banger music since B2W2. The ending of the game is soooooo good. This excludes Legends as that game is different but still has banger music and an amazing boss
Scarlet and Violet could have been better in some ways, but they absolutely nailed it on the story. I went in having looked at the new mons but staying unspoiled on the story and I'm glad I did that because _damn._ I remember going down through Area Zero, I was thinking there was an AI, but like, one that was imprisoning Sada in the Zero Lab, like it had gone rogue or something, and that that's why her transmission in the third research station glitched out like that, and that we'd have to rescue her. Learning she was dead, I didn't see it coming at all. Absolutely insane. And I still get into it with the final battle even now that I know it's basically a big interactive cutscene- it's still damn awesome! Most attachment I ever felt to boxart legendaries in my life. Even if the games themselves have more than a few technical hiccups, the handling of the story alone I think cements them a place among the greats of this franchise.
It's interesting that when Sada and Turo have their eyes blinking, at the part explaining who and what they are, the lights are of different colors. Sada is red and Turo is blue, just an interesting attention to detail I saw
It has begun! Been waiting for you to do reaction compliations on Scarlet/Violet. I can think of no better way to start than with one of the biggest plot twists in pokemon history followed by the start to an amazing final battle on par with Cynthia, N/Ghetsis, and Volo. Say what you want about the game, but you have to admit that going through Area Zero for the first time is jaw-dropping. Can't wait to see more.
The ending felt like the a movie. So many parts of it were awesome it actually gave me chills. Worst part is this game deserved to be voice acted. Let's hope for the next one!..
It's not the exact same but I think Juno Songs' lyrics version of the battle theme scratches that itch pretty well for me since some lines are voice acted in between the singing, the voice they chose for the "An obstacle is preventing the time machine from working as intended. Activating Paradise Protection Protocol to remove the offending obstacle... Locking all Poke Balls not registered to [Turo/Sada]'s ID. Program initializing... Gathering Terastal energy..." part is SO good
See here many are lamenting to what happened to the professors and the effect it has on poor Arven.... then look upon the immediate reactions of an overwehmlingly awesome bop as they battle. Such is the vibes you get from one of the greatest Pokemon scenes I've seen in a long while!
going into this fight blind was an experience i wish i could relive a second time, i was playing violet so my shock in seeing the future paradoxes and being confused on their type combinations was by far the greatest experience i had playing a pokemon game ever
I didn’t expect this level of depth in these games, but the ending was a roller coaster of emotions. The battle theme, the ai forewarning you of the battle and hoping you beat them, the Arven closure cutscene, all kinds of shit. This was legit one of the best games of 2022.
i love how the game makes you think that he went into the past/future by seemingly foreshadowing it with the ai professor talking about how someone cant return, then they hit you with that CURVEBALL
i think it says something about how impactful that final battle is when i still got chills every time the music started up with the "please defeat me," even while watching it happen multiple times in a row
Volo's betrayal and the eventual battle with Arceus: *best plot twist and toughest Legendary hit harder than a fucking truck* AI Sada and AI Turo: *we're both dead, are the only known evil Professors in the series, and would probably make Volo seem like a fucking peasant.*
Love how you can feel every person just STOP at the "the real professor passed away" line. Literally everyone is just thinking "death? Canonical death?! _In a Pokemon game?!"_
ikr? I was speechless and stunned after discovering the professor that stand before me/you was an AI and the real one was dead long time ago. And the music and scenery just got a serious vibe going on. S&V rules! 😎
I think my favorite part of the final boss is you genuinely cannot rely on type advantages as you have absolutely zero idea what these guys are and you have to guess on the fly what types they have
I went Into this game mostly blind, I saw all the leaked pokemon and planned out my team, and I eventully got impatiant and watched some playthroughs of it, But no further that right after we get our bike. I went with violet, because I thought Miraidon looked cooler. Going in I expected to do stupid side quests for people who didn't want to do it themselves. And I expected the story to be okay, I guess. Didn't really follow SWSH's story very well, And PLA's was good but not breath taking, I expected nothing too crazy. Everything I just wrote was disproven a few hours in the game. After one shoting Bombirdier with a Pawmot that only knew thunder shock, and seeing Arvens true intentions were, I almost f*cking cried, no joke, this is almost making me cry again writing this, it hurt THAT much. Then starfall was starfall street was next, it didn't make me as emotional, it did make me feel soft inside. Team star is just one big friend group that got out of hand and their founder is willing to declar war on our behalf just to protect her friends. Also, I, like many others figured Cassiopiea was the big boss, and after penny mentioned she was a good hacker, put the peices together. Also of topic a bit, I GENUINLY didn't see through Clavell's disquise untill the option "Director Clavell?" came up, which was so funny I went with it the entire game. Anyways, Victory Road... I found out Nemona is a combantion of Goku and Monkia. Thats it. The Gym leaders were funny I guess. Larry gave a good suprise in the E4. Okay, now for the reason I decided to write this comment, I figured The professors would be evil, that was a given, they were revealed early on with no additional info given on them, which is exactly how chairman rose was reavelead, and look what happened there. What I did NOT expect at all is was the fact that they BUILT A TIME MACHINE, BUILT AN AI OF THEMSLEVES, AND GOT MURDERED BY A F*CKING DRAGON. Nor did I expect the fully sentient and aware AI to be the one in the right, as media has left quite the steriotype. And seeing Arven's issues with his parents at the end of the final titan (Which I forgot to metion earlier whoops) him wittnessing what looks and sounds like his parents (which he dosen't know are dead at this point btw) vanish into thin air never to be seen again, was heartbreaking, but at the end of they day, he still has his greatest treasure... friendship. and after that whole emotianal rollercoster of bulled kids, Mommy/Daddy issues, and what could be called pokemons first yandere, one thought came to my mind... ... .... ...... "The angst writers are going to have fun with this."
I figured out the "Cassiopiea is the leader of Team Star" twist on my own, but ended up getting the "Penny is Cassiopiea" twist spoiled to me by a Tumblr roleplay blog of all things
I finished the game yesterday and I am SO grateful, that I didn't get spoiled before. Wow, what an amazing story and now I can't stop binging reactions
I finished this game at like 1 in the morning I’ve never been in such utter disbelief during a video game ever. I LITERALLY SCREAMED AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS. Whoever thought of this twist deserves a promotion because this can’t be topped.
That's because it was a legit 6 v 8. Wish the prof. just kept bringing in pokemon, no limit, until a certain amount of moves, after which your friends would join you for a multi battle and one of them(probably Penny, being the worst battler in the group and the hacker) sneaks around to disable/block/disrupt stuff. The main objective to win could've just been surviving a set no. of turns
@@TechnoArpan that's exactly what I thought as well by using the time machine the professor could of kept sending out more and more Pokémon to battle you would of win cause we only have 6 Pokémon but in reality the AI has infinite amount.
This ending hit me so hard. I would give anything to be able to play it blind again, because I'm so thankful that I played the entire thing blind initially. The music was amazing (thank you Toby Fox) and the twist was so well done. Arven's story made me cry, so going in to Area Zero and getting more of that story there... Oh it hit hard
“What the heck is Roaring Moon? Possibility of winning zero? I have a full team still, what could you have that could possibly- OH SHIT it’s a Salamance, I’m in danger!”
Worst part though is that they're implied to have died shortly before the game starts, since the box dragon is fleeing from. *something*. They were ignoring his messages for a long time before they died.
Love Sada/Turo's villain story. They were horrible parents and what they planned to do was bad, but there are hints that they aren't fully irredeemable. The biggest hint is that the AI that they imbued with their own memories and experiences is actually against the whole idea of flooding the region with paradox pokemon. In a more stable envoronment where they aren't isolated and neglected, I'm sure that people can easily convince the Professor that drastically changing the ecosystem is the farthest form of "paradise" that they envisioned. They already prooved that they can catch and bring to the present these ancient past and futuristic pokemons. That is already a monumental scientific discovry. They don't have to go so far aa to bring in thousands and possibly millions just to achieve their dreams. They really do be hardcore shiny hunting with what they were doing at that point.
I got to that part today. My exact reaction was my jaw LITERALLY dropped!!! I was left with my mouth open speechless for about 2 minutes straight. I felt SO BAD for poor Arven!!
The fact that AI Sada is basically a perfect robotic copy of professor Sada with all her memories and even emotions makes the final moment she has with Arden so touching. Even though it’s not his real mom, it may as well be, and she gets to tell him how proud both the real and AI version of her were of him.
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Ttube also reacted to violet stuff in a seperate video. After completing scarlet he replayed the last few bits in violet just to see the differences
Arven's Mabosstiff getting better. Ain't gonna be a dry eye in house.
I made two videos on me fighting Professor Turo, if you wanna use it in a video
Maybe AustinJohn and AbdallahSmash? But I didn't watch those.
Can you do the reactions to the second part of the battle? With the Paradise Protection Protocol?
in case anyone missed it
In the cutscene battle where the "You are challenged by AI Sada" becomes "You are challenged by the Paradise Protection Protocol"
In the glitch effects between, where the gibberish is, there is like 1 frame, a split second, where it says "AI Sada has no intention to battle"
Really nice touch
Considering Toby helped out with the music for this part, I wouldn’t be surprised if he also helped out for some the character and emotion beats too
@@kaiservonpanzer213Toby fans not trying to say everything good in SV is made by toby:
@@Didagg considering Game freak’s recent track record, I’d believe lmao
@@kaiservonpanzer213 You can think whatever you want of gamefreak but credit where it’s due, it’s un fair to credit other people for the work and effort other people made
@@Didaggwell it’s not necessarily clear cut, if they hired him they probably like his work. Game Freak has been trying to please fans more in Arceus and the rest of ScarVio by incorporating more inspiration from other successful franchises. To me the final parts of the game definitely have some Undertale, some Nier, some Persona, and some old-school RPG influences. It’s not like the rest of the staff didn’t play all that
"AI Sada has no intention of fighting anymore!" is just the most gut wrenching thing hidden in the glitching textbox
Especially knowing its the actual professor who is doing it, the last memories of the real professor seeping through even beyond the grave IT HITS HARD KNOWING JUST HOW FAR THE REAL PROFESSOR WOULD GO
Then when the text is replaced with "Paradise Protection Protocol has Initiated battle!" ohhhhhhhh THE CHILLLLLLLLLLLS oof
I didn't notice that.
Toby touched that line.
Go frame by frame at 6:24 for those curious.
I love the ones who were like “I just though sada was stuck in the past” like she’s not in the past, she has passed
Good one 🤣
She's stuck in the Passed
I mean… she IS in the past… technically
She's part of the past permanently.
She's stuck in the washing machine
This is one of the darkest Pokemon bosses ever. A long dead professor so engrossed in their work that it leads them to neglect their child. Their child finds them again only to see a robot wearing their parent's face. Make no mention that the very robot is trying to kill him and his friends to fulfill the goal that it's creator, the professor themself, programed the robot to achieve, condemning even the very ecosystem so their dreams would be met. And the robot wants nothing to do with it but is being forced to carry it out. I genuinely wonder if Toby Fox didn't just work on the music but Sada/Turo's character, because this seems like his ballpark.
Over a thousand languages and you chose to write facts 😮💨
@@Neon_Umbreon Uhhh... Thanks? I'm not sure if that was a complement or a dig or both...
@@tedscheett9420 I agreed with you haha
@@tedscheett9420 how did you take that as an insult lmao
They're not long dead though? They die right before the start of the game
I love how everyone freezes before saying "passed away"
God this is one of the best finales in any pokemon game
One thing I also loved is most of the players are concerned about Arven. The game made you genuinely care about his character
@@siphy9335 I am one of those people. I legit had my mind on Arven the whole time when I was battling against Turo.
To be fair it rarely happens that Pokémon flat out says someone died.
Even less so during the main campaign
Though PurpleCliff stopped after he said the line with "passed away". I love how he realized what he just said.
@@AkemiHikari i walked out of the lab to go look for him once i was told to put the violet book on the time machine. i didn't want to do it sjkhdfg
Just learned this, and have to share it.
Ok, so Arven mentions right before jumping into the Great Crater that the professor is 'railroading' them. The group consists of four people. All the way back in Red and Blue, if you check the TV in your room, the description mentions a film about four friends travelling down railroad tracks. This is a reference to the film Stand By Me. And what is it that the characters are searching for in that movie?
A dead body.
................duuuuuuuuude
the real treasure was the realization that the Arven's parents were dead all along
…..That’s actually awesome.
Pokemon be foreshadowing games years in advance
NAAAAHHHHH THIS IS CRAZY
I *love* how they had an interface screw.. also enjoy "initiated the battle" instead of just "challenged you to a battle" like.. just.. the small things go a long way..
The brief flash of 'AI Sada/Turo has no intention of battling anymore' lives in my head rent free
@@-memoria-2136 in mine too :')
Can’t forget the “If you run, you’ll put everyone else in danger!”
I know right?
I never noticed that Turo catches the masterball with his left hand while Sada catches it with her right hand
Not only that, but when they are walking with their hands in the pocket, it’s the same rule. Nice little details.
@@livinginsaturn wow i never noticed that either 😯
Turo is also more expressive than Sada
@@iring6572 Nope sada solos 💪🏯
Honestly, of all the version differences I would not have expected the version exclusive professor's handedness to be one of them.
“Stop catching these things!” Thamill insisted, leading with his Great Tusk.
Don't worry, he didn't abduct it from the past, he caught the former titan lol
@@callmesilver2683 And where did the titan come from? The ancient past.
@@callmesilver2683 Gocha there dude.
When your so evil, even your A.I copy couldn't find the logic of your actions...
Truly one of the most well written villains i seen...
A well written villain you don't even get to truly fight, just see the ramifications of their actions and fight the defenses of
Professor isn’t a villain just an asshole parent who neglected their child for work. Happens a lot in real life.
@@a.x.x8184 did you miss the part where they wanted to bring the past/future Paradox mons to the present and destroy the ecosystems of the region? To quote the AI Turo but it's effectively the same for Scarlet: 'The original professor had a dream...of a world in which future Pokémon might live alongside present-day Pokémon in harmony. But these Pokémon have gained a strange power due to their adaptations in the distant future...and this power has proved too terrible. Their very existence brings destruction to the ecological balance of this current age. The original professor would say that such destruction is a natural part of life.'
@@a.x.x8184I mean I think child neglect makes you a villain already but they were also perfectly comfortable with letting the paradox mons loose and absolutely destroying the ecosystem (and likely posing an extreme danger to human lives as well, given what happened to the original prof and how hostile the paradox mons are in general), so like. Very villain, you know?
it's a huge overstatement to call them villains, especially when they literally wanted the paradoxes to live in harmony with ppl 💀 they didn't even get out of area zero by the time we get there. their intentions weren't evil, dgmw they let their work consume them so badly they neglected arven which is terrible as all hell but they are not in the same category as pokemon villains
Ah yes. Sada/Turo just casually pulling up with 7 master balls.
Professors keep the pokeballs so who will tell them to have a limit
They got some of those hacked Mon trades
They do what RR did but more secretlly
Well funded bastards 😂
If you examine the lighthouse lab there's a bunch of deconstructed balls over against the far wall. They were making their own.
This and the Volo battle... they've been on point with these endgame scenarios lately. Great stuff
Also Ultra Necrozma
@@Vyomesh839fr
I would give anything to experience that ending again…i will literally go and play through the whole game again to just see that ending over and over
Undertale fans be like:
Chrono Trigger fans be like:
omori fans be like:
Nier:Automata fans be like:
Same I didn’t save when I got here. And wanted to close the game just to redo this part
Wolfey’s reaction is the most relatable for me. Fighting through Sada’s team, seeing the name “Roaring Moon”, not knowing what that is, and watching her toss the Master Ball to reveal a freaking SALAMENCE has got to be one of the scariest experiences. Iron Valiant is cool, but a past version of a pseudo-legendary just hits different.
Tyranitar is a pseudo legend as well...
@@MegaShepardsPie Yet its not the strongest of its peers
I spoiled myself on all the Paradoxes but I shat my pants when I saw the Booster Energy.
That was when I thought I was fucked. And then I two shot it.
I had no problems with the violet version boss fight, then again I did actually have the Ice Dark legendary that lowers the opponent's defense on my team. I honestly had a harder time fighting the electric gym in the game which I also have to honestly say that I respect their choice of pokemon that they Terastallize because they turn a pokemon with the ability levitate into a pure electric type eliminating the ground weakness which is something that I would do.
@Macdonald Cyclizard is not a Psuedo-Legend.
Psuedo-Legendary Pokemon are late game, 3 Stage Pokemon (typically dragon), with a Base Stat Total of 600. Cyclizar is 501. They are as follows
Dragonite, Tyranitar, Metagross and Salamence (the only region with two Psuedo Legends is Hoenn), Garchomp, Hydreigon, Goodra(Hisuian included), Kommo-o, Dragapult, and the actual Gen 9 Psuedo, Baxcalibur.
Cyclizar is just the Present day variant to "Winged King" (Koraidon) and "Iron Serpent" (Miraidon). Cyclizar is a relatively common Pokemon, unlike its time warped relatives.
The fact that they straight up were saying that the meaner Koraidon/Miraidon was the one who killed the professor, I was like 🤯🤯🤯🤯
I was like 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
And then they're forced to use that same monster against you
There's something really heartwarming seeing WolfeyVGC actually invested in the story.
Because he’s always disliked how boring Pokémon storylines are so seeing him enjoy it was so refreshing and wholesome lol
So many of us rush through the games to get into the competitive grind…
But this game was different in that it had such an innocent and wholesome story with some truly deep and dark undertones. The adult me who still enjoys competitive Pokémon got to experience the feeling I got playing Pokémon red at the age of 6 all over again. I did not expect to be so happy with this game and I’m looking forward to the DLC for more than just new mons. I need to know what happens next, the lore component and environmental story telling is getting better with each new Pokémon game.
Whos that
@@TS-uu4hp Yea. I'm looking forward to DLC because there's so much story and questions left unanswered. We solved the current problem, but we still don't know much about how it because possible with the crystals and how the 3rd legendary is connected. This DLC is gonna be so different from SWSH with actual story continuation. (I hope) So I'm excited.
@@thiccqiyanaenjoyer1099 Wolfey is a professional Pokémon player and a World Champion. His channel is largely devoted to competitive advice and using the interplay between types, abilities, held items, terrain, weather, and Pokémon.
He's also incredibly cynical about the story of the games, because it's really been formulaic lately.
These are gold and I can relate. Seriously the ending blew me away. Not only were they willing to admit, very plainly, that the professor died, but the fight that came after, the music, the cutscenes, all of it was so cool!!!!!! Ahg, this is def up there with Volo/giratina for my fav pokemon moment.
Thanks for the comment!!
@@Neon_Umbreon thanks for the reply lol. And the video of course. You are a global treasure!
@@allycat5609 you’re too kind!! 😭
I love how everyone collectively goes silent once they hear that the professor is dead because its SO UNEXPECTED.
Also, "Please. Defeat me." Is one of the hardest lines ive ever heard in a video game, its so hype
Before the DLC Scarlet/Violet is probably the only story where every rival and antagonist genuinely wanted you to defeat them, instead of them prevailing against you
Cassiopeia (Penny) wanted you to end Team Star, while the principal is more than happy to see your journey come to fruition; Nemona is happy she is no longer lonely at the top now that there's someone better than her; Arven wanted a companion that could help him through the trip. Hell, the very AI who is the final boss eagerly wished you to defeat them and put an end to the professor's twisted dream.
@@周生生-f1f WAIT YOU'RE RIGHT HOW DID I NOT REALIZE THAT, THAT'S SICK AS HELL I LOVE IT
gosh I'm getting goose-bumbs just watching this sections again. One of the best Final Boss fights in Pokemon ever!
I got goosebumps too while finding the reactions haha, so good!
Not only in Pokemon game, this is one of my favorite moments in any game!
I was totally sure Turo went to the future and that's why the communication was so glitchy. I was shocked and devastated when I found out he's dead! The fact we find out the truth before Arven as well... Never thought a Pokemon game could make me cry at the end, this was a wild game!
I have a strange realization:
AI Sada is neutral to you, the protection protocol is not.
Knowing how AI learn overtime, that means the professor- way back from the start, was very aggressive about completing her research- since the Protection Protocol is an old build.
Which also explains why Arven is a bit annoyed whenever someone addresses that his mother's the professor.
*Dude. That's actually great storytelling.*
@Laura Berdugo Whenever anyone mentions to Arven that Sada/Turo is the Professor (aka their occupation), he gets annoyed because they're so head deep in their research that they've neglected their son's needs.
It's a really refreshing twist on usual AI tropes.
Usually, you have the AI going to any means to achieve the goal it was programmed for, with the creator trying to stop it, here you have the long-dead creator being obsessed with their goal in spite of knowing perfectly well that it won't work out and will just destroy the ecosystem, while the AI fails to see the logic behind it and instead decides to defy their creator's wishes.
Ironically, it works so much better than usual AI tropes: AIs, even sentient ones, are inherently beings of logic, so logically concluding that there was literally nothing good that could come of the original's goals makes sense, while obsession causing you to do bad things is a very human trait, so Sada/Turo downplaying and rationalizing the bad things that would come of their actions as just being part of life makes sense.
It also doesn't completely throw the original Sada/Turo under the bus, because the AI acknowledges that they did genuinely love Arven and the fact that they decide to work against the original professor despite being programmed to think like them shows that the professor was a good person who was just too obsessed with their goal. It's likely that if they had survived their injuries, they would have realized how f*cked up what they were doing was and shut it down.
@@Missingno_Mineri dunno. The way the one book describes that their spouse left them seems so...bitter and annoyed. I think ai turo/sada just said that they truly loved him because the alternative would hurt him even more than this whole situation already did. "That boy" gives the impression they got saddled with unwanted baggage in the form of arven and seemed outright _indignant_ that their spouse left, like how _dare_ they had the audacity to leave. The spouse didn't even take arven with them either... it just sounds like neither of them were good people. They were smart people left with unchecked obsession in their field of interest--leaving someone like that presumably alone in area zero eventually made them go mad. Humans by nature are not logical, but the fact the ai still couldn't understand the professor despite what they knew, it just always felt like they really went off the deep end and the ai was the one who was "sane".
@@ShadowSkyX The professor's books scattered throughout Area Zero talk about their goals. Their motivation is, at least in part, to create an environment where "we three"(most likely referring to themself, Arven, and the first bike lizard) could thrive. At least in part, their motivation was to provide for Arven, but naturally their obsession blinded them to the harm their absence was doing.
honestly, this is one of the few games i would put under the cateogry of "games i want to experience for the first time again"...the story and especially the finale is just...perfect.
My favorite part of this game was watching my younger brother try and figure out that he needed to use his Koridon. He tried battling and running, and then said "Oh yeah" and tried to use a pokedoll. Professor Clavell's words echoed in his mind saying "This isn't the time for that." and we both burst out laughing.
That kids going places
Bro you might actually die here nows not the time for that
Facing AI Turo for the first time, while knowing nothing about the game's ending is a memory I will cherish for quite some time.
I don't care how unfinished the game was, not only did I have a lot of fun, everything that happened after you finish the 3 main storylines, aka the endgame is peak videogame experience.
It quite easily breaks my Top 3 list of mainline Pokémon gens / games. A highly underrated Gen thus far. And much better than that of SwSh
I know!!! I fought so hard not to be spoiled. I didn't perfectly shield myself, but it was worth it to be truly surprised by Pokemon
ABSOLUTELY. i fought hard to not get spoiled. ai turos fight is my favourite fight to ever participate in, sent proper chills down my spine when it happened
I unfortunately saw an asshole posting turo as a robot in response to Pokémon’s tweets on Twitter. Some people are fucking assholes
@@RachelXKnight666 I mean, the whole robot thing was heavily foreshadowed
Spoilers
The big reveal was the reasoning behind everything, who was the real culprit and was the AI motivation for doing what it did, it was very clever to turn the formula upside down like that and the battle felt very epic
I always found it so chilling that the Master Ball from the portal was still shaking. That Pokemon just got kidnapped out of its time and is still fighting against it. With that tragic music over it. Damn.
My reaction:
"I am an AI created by the professor with her memories and thoughts."
Yeah, cool twist, but I kinda figured
"The real professor passed away."
OK BUT NOT THAT!
One of my favorite things in stories is when an obvious twist distracts you from figuring out the real twist ahead of time.
@@Toksyuryel indeed
@@Toksyuryelkinda like in Pokémon Masters when it’s revealed that Lear is in fact NOT the leader of Team Break, but is actively at odds against them.
@@paperluigi6132I really liked his character arc in the story btw
"AI Sada/Turo has no intention of fighting any more!"
shoutout to anyone who noticed this really tiny detail when the text box was glitching
I noticed it had changed in a split second, clipped that right away to go frame by frame.
I hope this becomes a meme template.
**AI Zuckerberg has no intention of fighting any more!**
Damn you’ve got the eyes of a hawk haha
The way that every one of them stopped cold, or freaked out, at reading, "passed away".
Please don’t hesitate to make another one of these! Like many people, I thought Turo had gone to the future (I played Violet), and had not seen this coming AT ALL. I’d been warned about the ending, but to have an actual confirmed death in Pokémon was shocking. No matter what people may say about this game, the music, atmosphere, and story for this part of the game was incredible. Kudos to Game Freak for actually having a legit plot twist and not being afraid to go dark with it.
Thanks for your thoughts!
I'm glad someone is actually sane. I have seen so many people just shitting on the game obsessively, when it's a fucking phenomenal game that has a couple issues that are getting patched out
@@bradleybarnett1469 Ok, the performance of the game is inexcusable. You can't even defend how much the game lags at times or the numerous bugs it had. But yes, those hating on the story and/or gameplay is just a brainless shitter. This gen has arguably the best story in any pokemon game, and the gameplay is just so damn fun. I will defend the story and the gameplay, but I won't defend the performance. But these are still amazing games and I will replay them over and over.
@@vgmaster02 you had performance issues?
@@vgmaster02 I love it when visual glitches happen honestly. It’s hilarious that when Pokémon evolve they can be out of bounds or you can just fall through the floor.
The biggest twist was that the real "villain" is just dead before the game and we have to stop what they made. Everyone pausing when they realize the professor is just straight up dead (and thus leaving Arven an orphan) is heartbreaking
Also between legends and SV, pokemon has been killing it with the final showdowns
It worse cause canonical his dad and mom are still the same so his other parent was just so fed up that they straight up abandoned him. While the other went crazy
Sada: I’m a robot
Everyone: i sleep
Sada: the original Sada was fuckin murdered
Everyone: AAAAAAAAAAAA
something fun to note about these two: Sada is right-handed, and Turo is left-handed. Sada’s eyes flash red during the robot reveal, and Turo’s flash blue. and of course, they are both of Arven’s parents. they mirror one another pretty well.
Also the background when the Paradise Protection Protocol is activated changes color depending on the version! I thought that was a fun touch when I watched a Scarlet playthrough for the first time
this last story was absolutely amazing! it wasnt until we reached Crater Zero that i began suspecting that something was very wrong, but i thought it was some secret villain that was trying to masquerade as the professor...when i read AI Sada/Turo claiming that the real professor died a long time ago when one of the research stations collapsed, i just sat in shock and my heart broke for Arven
When I got to area zero I'd originally thought the professor was either being possessed, or was a fake within the area zero lab that wanted to escape as they acted very weird the entire time; But this was a twist I never expected. And not only that, but even the AI finds the original professor's plans abhorrent and wants you to stop them from effectively ruining the world.
I love how everyone was collectively upset by the reveal of the Professor having passed away; it really felt like we were all going through the stages of grief in a matter of minutes. Gamefreak blew this one out of the water in terms of storytelling, like, I know myself and many others are never going to recover from the shock of the big twist!
I'm excited to see what we'll get in the future because even if this company never truly catches up with graphical expectations they sure as hell *do* care about their IP and it really showed with S/V + Legends Arceus especially. Not only in the writing, but in the way they've put so much care into every Pokemon included within the game. They all have their own dex-accurate quirks and I just think it's all extremely charming.
I've been playing Pokemon since Blue/Red, now as a person in my 30s I'm truly grateful by how long we've got to be on this journey with Pokemon and that it just continues to get better. I'll never forget the first time I saw the animations and colors in Pokemon Crystal thinking it was so cool and immersive. That's the moment I became truly attached to the games and it's going to stay that way until I no longer exist physically on this planet. Well done and thank you, Gamefreak.
Pokemon fans: *pog at the concept of death*
Digimon fans: First time?
because its the 1st concept of death in a pokemon game so far which i can get why ppl reacted in a certain way but correct me if im wrong
@@hisaceinthehole3426 in which parts of the game? I don't recall exactly where is it mentioned
@@joseleonardopelox8902 When Clavell gave his condolosences to Arven, Arven straight up said his father/mother died instead of using other terms
This ending was just.....wow say what you want about the rest of this game but the story is quite possibly one of the best in the series up there with the greatness of the black and white saga. I remember being completely caught off guard with a confirmed human death in the pokemon series. Poor Arven too, this ending was just a masterpiece.
TTar's playthroughs are amazing.
The combination of him always beeing so invested in the lore/story (trying to explore everything, taking his time to look at ingame bookshelfs to read the books, trying to read in between the lines of anything a character says, sharing his thoughts and theories of what happened or could happen) + his reactions and things like 6:39.
It's just so fun to watch him - love this guy
Yeah, you can tell he's having fun and loves exploring. The investment is great. Plus, he's the madman who would rush into a lvl 80 fight with 1 lvl 70 and a team of lvl 60s, so I respect him a lot
And his vids have a certain vibe that is just nice
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME!
I'm genuinely shocked. I figured the professors went to the past/future respectfully and we're stuck, BUT THIS, MY GOD POKEMON REALLY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND HERE.
One of the coolest moments in the entire franchise, I was waiting for this
H hitman reborn.
I miss that show.
Dude… this is such a power move for the franchise to make the PROFESSOR of all people the real antagonist. The story writers deserve a raise cause I was absolutely not expecting this ever. Definitely one of the darkest Pokémon stories.
Been hoping you would do this. I loved this twist. Went in expecting the professor to be the villian, never expected them to be dead. Such a cool final battle though.
Big facts 💯
This story's great and all, but can the DLC not revolve around giving Arven endless trauma 💀
I love his story but gahd dayum did they give him a rough time, I feel bad for him
I want to know why Cyclizar of the past, and future, are Legendary but the present time are not. And why there isn't a mechanic for making a Cyclizar you catch your ride-on.
Arven dies on the DLC /j
@@callmesilver2683 :(
@@ghosty4 simple, pokemon back then and in the future are just way stronger than in the present. Koraidon and Miraidon are just the strongest ones that got pulled through.
And having a cyclizar as a ridable is kinda redundant. If you met the legendaries later, I could see it. But with how the story is, there really isn't a reason to ride a downgrade.
I think its gonna be about the third legendary
But i kinda would like a sequel game that tells the Story about it and also we could have the other characters get Focus too
i was kinda bullying turo during the story since i thought he just left his son due to super passionate research so you guess how much this dropped my jaw
and one thing i like is that arven actually looks like a child of two professors. something that bugged me is that lillie's family has the same genes for some reason. arven sorta looks like he's a mix of both professors like how actual children work
Look at the books in the research stations, it kinda hints that Sada/Turo is Arven's other deadbeat parent who walked out of his life when he was born.
@@spacetofu5306 also the wording is bitter and indignant, like "how dare they left us! _and_ they saddled us with a kid?"
Love how the robot doesn't appear to be evil but it seems the Professor themselves is. We saw a glimpse of how they were during the fight.
I love how if you pause at 13:42 it says “AI Sada has no intention of fighting anymore” nice little detail of the devs
My theory was very odd. I neither saw the old journal pages nor made any theories before the fourth outpost. I thought, based on what AI Turo said about humans being unable to live through time travel, and the glitchy voice he had at the fourth outpost, that Turo had turned himself into a cybernetically-augmented being to easily travel through time and survive.
When he said humans could survive the trip one way but not returning, I fully thought he had jumped to the future in a bout of selfishness (which seems to be a semi-common theory). I like yours a lot better lol
I love small details like how the AIs’ faces look when challenged.
AI sada keeps her face still, which sorta is like a wild predator preparing to pounce.
AI Turo outwardly has an aggressive face which sort of gives of an aggressive robot with no remorse.
7:06 I'm wondering what he's talking about. Arven is in his late teens, he has no memories of his parent playing with him as a child, the event that killed his parent happened 4 years prior. He was still neglected.
Wh3re are you getting these 4 years from? Turo/Sada died at the very start of the game when Miraidon/Koraidon fled from Area 0.
comparing these two professors, I would say I prefer Turo more. Sada has the best design but after seeing her in action she needed more to make it feel better. Turo on the other hand has mannerisms and design changes that make you feel that he is out of control, his hair flaring up and his outfit actually fitting in with the background. Though I love both of these professors AI, I felt like Scarlet's professor was poorly implemented.
And he is gigachad
Also it makes it even sader that arvens mother just left him after his birth in violet
AI Sada is not as concerned with her appearance, much less as she lost the will to keep on doing the professor's work... but Sada has great fashion sense for being cavewoman-y.
I agree but I prefer Sada. Since she gives up the maternal role for her research, it feels like the story hits A LOT harder in scarlet. Honestly having a mad scientist that also happens to be a single mother is crazy as hell and outweighs Turo by a longshot for me, even though he looks so much more intent and menacing overall in the ending. (Then again it could also be because I was spoiler-free watching TyranitarTube play Scarlet lol)
They have different approaches, and I like both. AI Sada is calm, and moves smoother than AI Turo; she also doesn't let her eyes blink to show she's an AI. It only really becomes apparent that she really is a robot when the defense system kicks in and she moves twitchily. But her smooth, calm movements and soft, subtle expressions feel more like a woman; so when that warm expression as she asks you to stop her is replaced by the cold, arrogant disdain and detachment of the defense system, it's jarring. I shuddered when I saw it; it was really effective.
At the same time, AI Turo is a bit more open physically about his status as a robot. He moves a bit more mechanically; his mouth and jaw movements are exaggerated, his broader shoulders seem boxier as he turns, and the lights blinking in his eyes are a "woah" moment. He's right in your face that he's a robot from the start, and is more expressive. And when the defense system takes over, the cruel, sinister smirk on his face was unnerving. His expressions of antagonism are more inherently masculine and overt than Sada's, making it feel more aggressive and evokes more stark fear than the dread of Sada's coldness.
They're incredibly different approaches, using nearly the same dialogue; it's genius story telling.
I agree. Personally, I do also feel that Turo(And violet in general)'s future theme fits better with the tech in the game.
You know a fight is gonna rule when the first thing an opponent brings out is one of Volcarona's paradox forms. Considering how terrifyingly powerful Volcarona is as well as champions long ago used it as their ace, along with the fact these variants are even stronger, it is intimidating as hell. Slither Wing and Iron Moth are my fav gen 9 mons hands down.
I love Slither Wing's shiny too, if I'm being completely honest I've never been the biggest fan of Volcarona's shiny but I feel like that color palette works so well on Slither wing, I'm kind of jealous as a Violet player, we just got stuck with chrome everything
I myself actually adore the chrome future Paradoxes lol, I have them all except for Hands, Thorns, and Moth. Odd thing about Scarlet, there was a big with Flutter Mane where if you used a Ghost shiny sandwich, you would have no Pokemon spawn in the bottom of AZ except for shiny Flutters. They patched it lmao.
If possible, I would shiny hunt another Slither for you for one of the 3 I'm missing xd
This is probably one of the best boss fights with banger music since B2W2. The ending of the game is soooooo good. This excludes Legends as that game is different but still has banger music and an amazing boss
Listen to the theme of Ai battle there's a part where ya can hear a sample from Black & White 2 & ya Aldo had to battle a professor as well
Funnily enough, when I first got to this fight, my first Pokémon was a volcarona, it made seeing Turo’s iron moth even more climactic
Scarlet and Violet could have been better in some ways, but they absolutely nailed it on the story. I went in having looked at the new mons but staying unspoiled on the story and I'm glad I did that because _damn._ I remember going down through Area Zero, I was thinking there was an AI, but like, one that was imprisoning Sada in the Zero Lab, like it had gone rogue or something, and that that's why her transmission in the third research station glitched out like that, and that we'd have to rescue her. Learning she was dead, I didn't see it coming at all. Absolutely insane. And I still get into it with the final battle even now that I know it's basically a big interactive cutscene- it's still damn awesome! Most attachment I ever felt to boxart legendaries in my life. Even if the games themselves have more than a few technical hiccups, the handling of the story alone I think cements them a place among the greats of this franchise.
It's interesting that when Sada and Turo have their eyes blinking, at the part explaining who and what they are, the lights are of different colors. Sada is red and Turo is blue, just an interesting attention to detail I saw
It has begun!
Been waiting for you to do reaction compliations on Scarlet/Violet. I can think of no better way to start than with one of the biggest plot twists in pokemon history followed by the start to an amazing final battle on par with Cynthia, N/Ghetsis, and Volo. Say what you want about the game, but you have to admit that going through Area Zero for the first time is jaw-dropping. Can't wait to see more.
The ending felt like the a movie. So many parts of it were awesome it actually gave me chills. Worst part is this game deserved to be voice acted. Let's hope for the next one!..
Nooooo
I was thinking the same about the voice acting too!
Weird how no one complain about lack of voice acting in black and white
It's not the exact same but I think Juno Songs' lyrics version of the battle theme scratches that itch pretty well for me since some lines are voice acted in between the singing, the voice they chose for the "An obstacle is preventing the time machine from working as intended. Activating Paradise Protection Protocol to remove the offending obstacle... Locking all Poke Balls not registered to [Turo/Sada]'s ID. Program initializing... Gathering Terastal energy..." part is SO good
I had a lot of fun doing the voices myself when I played and MY GOD this scene got to me
This moment is the best plot twist in any Pokémon game and I love it!
i love how wolfey's first reaction to finding out that sada is dead is to go "oh no i gotta tell arven!". not sure why lol
My reaction was to run the hell out of the lab and try to find him
See here many are lamenting to what happened to the professors and the effect it has on poor Arven....
then look upon the immediate reactions of an overwehmlingly awesome bop as they battle. Such is the vibes you get from one of the greatest Pokemon scenes I've seen in a long while!
They don't know whether to start crying or jamming
Absolutely loved this story. It’s sad, but very intriguing
going into this fight blind was an experience i wish i could relive a second time, i was playing violet so my shock in seeing the future paradoxes and being confused on their type combinations was by far the greatest experience i had playing a pokemon game ever
I didn’t expect this level of depth in these games, but the ending was a roller coaster of emotions. The battle theme, the ai forewarning you of the battle and hoping you beat them, the Arven closure cutscene, all kinds of shit. This was legit one of the best games of 2022.
i love how the game makes you think that he went into the past/future by seemingly foreshadowing it with the ai professor talking about how someone cant return, then they hit you with that CURVEBALL
i think it says something about how impactful that final battle is when i still got chills every time the music started up with the "please defeat me," even while watching it happen multiple times in a row
It was really great seeing Wolfey enjoy the game through his playthrough, considering his comments on the pokemon games usually
Volo's betrayal and the eventual battle with Arceus: *best plot twist and toughest Legendary hit harder than a fucking truck*
AI Sada and AI Turo: *we're both dead, are the only known evil Professors in the series, and would probably make Volo seem like a fucking peasant.*
I like how most of them paused at “The real professor passed-“ just like I did playing Violet
最初の人めっちゃ撮るw本人とキャラ似てるの好感。
旅中にサーフゴー進化させたのもすごいしニックネームで笑った😂
"Please. Defeat me" is such a raw line
9:23 His reaction was definitely the most hilarious XD
So I wasn't the only who got hit hard by the fact that the professors were dead… and that during the trailers… we were only seeing dead people. O_O
Love how you can feel every person just STOP at the "the real professor passed away" line.
Literally everyone is just thinking "death? Canonical death?! _In a Pokemon game?!"_
Wolfey's slow realization at whats about to happen is gold
ikr? I was speechless and stunned after discovering the professor that stand before me/you was an AI and the real one was dead long time ago. And the music and scenery just got a serious vibe going on. S&V rules! 😎
My favorite final boss in a Pokemon game no doubt, and watching others react to this madness is always amazing.
I think my favorite part of the final boss is you genuinely cannot rely on type advantages as you have absolutely zero idea what these guys are and you have to guess on the fly what types they have
I went Into this game mostly blind, I saw all the leaked pokemon and planned out my team, and I eventully got impatiant and watched some playthroughs of it, But no further that right after we get our bike. I went with violet, because I thought Miraidon looked cooler. Going in I expected to do stupid side quests for people who didn't want to do it themselves. And I expected the story to be okay, I guess. Didn't really follow SWSH's story very well, And PLA's was good but not breath taking, I expected nothing too crazy.
Everything I just wrote was disproven a few hours in the game.
After one shoting Bombirdier with a Pawmot that only knew thunder shock, and seeing Arvens true intentions were, I almost f*cking cried, no joke, this is almost making me cry again writing this, it hurt THAT much. Then starfall was starfall street was next, it didn't make me as emotional, it did make me feel soft inside. Team star is just one big friend group that got out of hand and their founder is willing to declar war on our behalf just to protect her friends. Also, I, like many others figured Cassiopiea was the big boss, and after penny mentioned she was a good hacker, put the peices together. Also of topic a bit, I GENUINLY didn't see through Clavell's disquise untill the option "Director Clavell?" came up, which was so funny I went with it the entire game. Anyways, Victory Road...
I found out Nemona is a combantion of Goku and Monkia.
Thats it.
The Gym leaders were funny I guess.
Larry gave a good suprise in the E4.
Okay, now for the reason I decided to write this comment, I figured The professors would be evil, that was a given, they were revealed early on with no additional info given on them, which is exactly how chairman rose was reavelead, and look what happened there.
What I did NOT expect at all is was the fact that they BUILT A TIME MACHINE, BUILT AN AI OF THEMSLEVES, AND GOT MURDERED BY A F*CKING DRAGON. Nor did I expect the fully sentient and aware AI to be the one in the right, as media has left quite the steriotype. And seeing Arven's issues with his parents at the end of the final titan (Which I forgot to metion earlier whoops) him wittnessing what looks and sounds like his parents (which he dosen't know are dead at this point btw) vanish into thin air never to be seen again, was heartbreaking, but at the end of they day, he still has his greatest treasure... friendship.
and after that whole emotianal rollercoster of bulled kids, Mommy/Daddy issues, and what could be called pokemons first yandere, one thought came to my mind...
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"The angst writers are going to have fun with this."
Thank you for the thoughtful comment! The writers sure had fun, they got one thing right for sure!
@@pete5516 plenty of other similar thumbnails are out there, and I waited a month to release this. Games the game, sorry!
I figured out the "Cassiopiea is the leader of Team Star" twist on my own, but ended up getting the "Penny is Cassiopiea" twist spoiled to me by a Tumblr roleplay blog of all things
I have very much had fun with this. Lots of very cathartic crying as I write.
its crazy seeing apollo in one of these videos
For real man going places
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I finished the game yesterday and I am SO grateful, that I didn't get spoiled before. Wow, what an amazing story and now I can't stop binging reactions
I sadly got spoiled on the fact the AI Professor was the final boss but thankfully nothing else, it was still so freaking cool to see for myself.
The moment when the first two RUclipsrs paused in distraught before they could finish reading the dialogue about the real Sada deceased. Just… wow
Can we all agree that the Ai battle theme IS A DAMN BANGER 🎼🎵🎶🔊
I finished this game at like 1 in the morning I’ve never been in such utter disbelief during a video game ever. I LITERALLY SCREAMED AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS. Whoever thought of this twist deserves a promotion because this can’t be topped.
9:22 Naw this guy is wilddd ☠☠
This makes me tear up every time I see it. Pokemon has never gotten this deep and it’s magnificent
Possibly the second greatest boss battle Supreme Noodle Giratina is still number 1
Agreed 💯
That's because it was a legit 6 v 8. Wish the prof. just kept bringing in pokemon, no limit, until a certain amount of moves, after which your friends would join you for a multi battle and one of them(probably Penny, being the worst battler in the group and the hacker) sneaks around to disable/block/disrupt stuff. The main objective to win could've just been surviving a set no. of turns
@@TechnoArpan that's exactly what I thought as well by using the time machine the professor could of kept sending out more and more Pokémon to battle you would of win cause we only have 6 Pokémon but in reality the AI has infinite amount.
This ending hit me so hard. I would give anything to be able to play it blind again, because I'm so thankful that I played the entire thing blind initially. The music was amazing (thank you Toby Fox) and the twist was so well done. Arven's story made me cry, so going in to Area Zero and getting more of that story there... Oh it hit hard
“What the heck is Roaring Moon? Possibility of winning zero? I have a full team still, what could you have that could possibly- OH SHIT it’s a Salamance, I’m in danger!”
Poor Arven, both his parents are long gone. I can't imagine the loss he must feel. ;w;
Yeah the second Arven said "the emails stopped coming" I was like "oh no."
Worst part though is that they're implied to have died shortly before the game starts, since the box dragon is fleeing from. *something*. They were ignoring his messages for a long time before they died.
Love Sada/Turo's villain story. They were horrible parents and what they planned to do was bad, but there are hints that they aren't fully irredeemable. The biggest hint is that the AI that they imbued with their own memories and experiences is actually against the whole idea of flooding the region with paradox pokemon. In a more stable envoronment where they aren't isolated and neglected, I'm sure that people can easily convince the Professor that drastically changing the ecosystem is the farthest form of "paradise" that they envisioned. They already prooved that they can catch and bring to the present these ancient past and futuristic pokemons. That is already a monumental scientific discovry. They don't have to go so far aa to bring in thousands and possibly millions just to achieve their dreams. They really do be hardcore shiny hunting with what they were doing at that point.
I got to that part today. My exact reaction was my jaw LITERALLY dropped!!! I was left with my mouth open speechless for about 2 minutes straight. I felt SO BAD for poor Arven!!
6:38 THE WAY HIS FACE CONTORTS INTO SURPRISE
God the soundtrack for this battle is absolute FIRE
The fact that AI Sada is basically a perfect robotic copy of professor Sada with all her memories and even emotions makes the final moment she has with Arden so touching. Even though it’s not his real mom, it may as well be, and she gets to tell him how proud both the real and AI version of her were of him.
I totally believe that the AIs loved Arven as if he was their own son.
@BJGvideos yeah it essentially has the programming to feel the same love she did
@@spiderdude2099 God I love this game
This moment is one of the best in a pokemon game lmao, hoping to see more reactions
1:50 SLITHER WING!!!
HUBBLE PUFF!!!
CORVID CLAW!!!
GRIFFIN’ DOOR!!!
6:35 I died seeing his reaction to his ball being locked. XD
The last 2 hours of this game are an absolut fucking trip. Seriously, its so good. They DO know how to make a game. Fuckin hell.