@@Crazyklips886 yeah, the list doesn't look great when you put it like that. But it's a significant culture shift if you observe how Merett responded to the club's decision. It seems to me that it was a boys club for a long time and Dodoro was a bit sentimental in his decisions.
To quote a good show in shoresy "it's not that they don't love to win.. it's that they don't hate to lose." i can think of like 2 players on our team that genuinely hate losing in Calders and Zerrett the rest just like winning. We need more of the former
If this is correct, what the club is saying, especially to Jake, is get your body right over pre season then come back and have a blinder next year. I'm sure if this happens then he is sure to get another chance to go around again. Its absolutely the correct approach from the club.
To be honest, I was thinking a month ago, we would 100% re-sign Stringer and co to a 2-3 year extension, Dodoro would've in a heart beat. This is exactly what we need. STOP overpaying average players to long deals. It seems players for the longest time have held the club to ransom, and I for one, are stoked the club is getting some balls. Funny how as soon as Dodoro is gone, the unnecessary, and ridiculous length of contracts has halted, almost immediately. Also, with the draft being as strong and deep as it's meant to be, and we apparently have 2 picks, we really should be trading a lot of players to build the list before Tassie comes in.
We'll see how ruthless Matt Rosa really is, Parish needs to be sent packing while he's still worth something. All he does is interfere with what Durham and Caldwell WERE DOING when he was out injured. I'd stand every single Essendon player who's on a ridiculous long term contract in the same room as Darcy Parish when he's suddenly told he's surplus to requirements (which he is.) THEN you'd see some effort from all those boys (including Mackay, what a waste of bloody good money) instead of them wondering round like nothing matters. Do I hate Darcy Parish? Not at all, I don't care about him... I live in Queensland and will likely never meet the bloke. Though the undeniable truth is now that Durham and Caldwell HAVE worked out where the goal posts are, our boy Darcy suddenly IS surplus to requirements. As I said, trade him immediately while he's still worth something.
Essendon has been a boys club for too long. They all want to sign big deals and play with their mates. No winning culture at all. It's just a laugh and a pay packet for most of them. Clean out the place, and show the list we expect more.
If this is indeed Matt Rosa setting new standards - l am all in. Sweet Jesus it is overdue and the previous generosity of our recruiting department is a huge part of where we find ourselves today and an insight into our last 20 years
100% behind the club on this. Don't care if Contract Stringer kicked 40 goals - the way he has approached things over the last few years is culture-destroying. He will not be in our next premiership team, so either turn up next year ready to crack in as a leader and earn another deal, or move tf on to your better option. I would consider an extension for Lav as a depth player, and also the fact he bleeds for this team. Regardless of his brain fades, at least he puts his head over it and will have your back in a blue.
@@everythingessendon548 absolutely mate. Anyone with a leadership background will tell you that most people are a product of their environment. I would hate to see another generation of our youth come up under the recent Bombers culture. Need to save em while they are still young enough to be saved.
Stand firm Essendon. If you think they deserve single year contracts, then offer single year contracts. This club has to start putting winning first, we have placated players since the saga, now the club administration needs to lead by example and show that winning is the priority.
I’m glad the club is appearing to make a statement with this ‘take it or leave it’ approach, players like stringer have been calling the shots for too long.
Similar thing happened at the end of the 2001 season. Due to Essendon's tight salary cap situation, Essendon could only offer Damien Hardwick a one year renewal. Instead Hardwick accepted a three year deal with Port Adelaide where he went on to be a season 2004 premiership player.
@@everythingessendon548 He would be the perfect opportunistic forward for a club like Collingwood or Hawthorn. There are not many clubs that wouldn't be interested in a half forward who has just finished equal 10th in the Coleman medal with 42 gaols (one gaol behind Langford). After Jake, the next best Essendon goal kicker managed only 19 goals. One question for those who want to ditch him: Who can replace him and kick 42 goals next year?
@@JMKeynes8491No top team will want Stringer regardless of his 42 goals. At best Carlton would probably take him. Otherwise he ends up at another middling road team like St Kilda or Melbourne. We have Issac Kako coming in who is very highly rated and could easily have a 2018 Jaidyn Stephenson or 2022 Jack Ginnivan borderline star level debut year. Nic Martin will more than likely move to a high half forward/wing role with Archie Roberts now in the team and Saad El Hawli likely coming through. He possesses a lot of natural small forward craft anyway. Even though he hasn't exactly developed much, Archie Perkins is naturally a Stringer type of player with very similar traits to him. So maybe and I may be stretching a bit here with him gone Perkins may be unleashed. But like I said that could be quite a stretch. Either way the forward line will have a lot more pace next season which hopefully comes with a much better, much improved fast ball movement style of gameplan to match it. So it really shouldn't be that difficult make it work without Stringer. Many teams have been able losing players similar to him over the years.
Stringer must be kept. He is one of few players we have who can be a match winner. We know the history of letting players go...four of them are likely to play finals this year: Daniher, Saad, Fantasia and D'Ambrosio. Inexplicably, D'Ambrosio was let go last year for virtually nothing. Now he is starring for the Hawks.
Yes keep for his contract of 2025 then let him walk, enough of these players thinking they are bigger than the club and he thinks he bigger than the club the right time to reset and set an example and if players are going to get their noses out of joint then that’s the problem time to make it a winning culture.
We don’t need a flaky match winner, we need to build a team winning culture. We can’t rely on any one player or we’ll continue to be a bottom half of the ladder club. He has a one year deal. Take it or go somewhere else.
I was worried that mckay would get injured too. Currently if that happened and if laverde was gone, i guess hayes replaces mckay and lual replaces laverde. I guess we could hang onto to weideman instead of laverde. Like we have to replace heppell weideman and baldwin and get one more defender, i guess if we are looking for 4 ready made defenders, why not try to get 5.
With Stringer I dont think they will give him a new deal, the club will look to trade him and get better draft picks. Given the bombers were in the top 5 teams for inside 50 entries, with that much opportunity I would expect a greater return from the one who calls himself "the package". I like Laverde, if he is playing great footy at the end of next season he can get a deal, there is still time for him to prove himself, but again the club might be looking to get draft capital. Im heartened to see the list management being ruthless, it actually indicates how soft Dodoro was and how much he was influencing these decisions.
Scott needs to also explain WHY D’Ambrosio was virtually given away and is now an All-Australian! Ridiculous decision while giving multi year deals to show ponies. The Club needs a Hawthorn style clean out.
This has been an issue on Essendon for awhile they’re more interested in playing with the boys and going on holiday with the boys then playing finals it’s time to take it seriously no more BS it’s time to get to work!
Stringer will go to Hawthorn next year and kick 50 goals and play finals. He may not have been the most professional and got the most out of his career, but he kicked 42 goals and did offer forward pressure. Playing hardball over giving him another year seems futile and will just push him out.
@@everythingessendon548 He was 1 goal behind your goal kicking leader and 10th for goal kicking in the broader competition. If he doesn't deserve it now, he knows he never will get anything beyond a 1 year contract. He should just move to whoever is willing to pay him the most.
They shouldn't give any contract extensions for Lavarde. If they can load him off somewhere, like you mentioned, I have been hearing there are suitors circling him..I hope they are serious. Its the best news for me and win-win for Essendon. We should get rid of Lavarde and get someone decent if we could.
Keep both, when Reid gets back put him in, Laverde can be the bench backline. Our backline I would choose: Ried, McKay and Ridley : Martin, McGrath, Redman
Maybe, though Zac Reid is looking more and more like Scotty Gumbleton every day. By the way, Martin is wasted behind the ball... He needs to be forward of centre, for the entire game... every game. I'll never know what you're doing CHOOSING McGrath at all.
Lewis Hayes should be in that backline. The kid has been solid it in the VFL all season just like Archie Roberts, Nick Bryan and Nate Caddy who are firmly in the team. Unlike Zach Reid his body isn't made of carbon fibre cruel as that may be to say.
@@everythingessendon548 it may mean we go backwards for a year or two , but it’s a risk worth taking, something this club hasn’t shown in some time . The list has proven where it’s really at, add to that a fairly healthy year we’ve just seen and it equals doing the same thing over and over again . Looks to be a deep draft so why not roll the dice and being in some pics in the 20’s-30’s and beyond to go with hopefully Kako and another key forward early
Don't get rid of stringer until we have the talent pushing him out of the side. Parish to Melbourne for Trac and have Stringer and Trac as the 2nd 3rd options with 2MP.
We have Issac Kako coming in who with proper game time could easily have a 2018 Jaidyn Stephenson or 2022 Jack Ginnivan borderline star level debut year. There is also Nic Martin who will than likely more to a high half forward/wing role and he possesses a lot of natural small forward craft anyway. As well as Nate Caddy continuing to grow and grow. Gotta think about the future (especially given we are suppose to rebuilding) and quite simply Stringer and various others are not the future of the club going forward.
I have watched him very closely in the VFL and am excited for what he has to offer in the future, but have been thrown to the wolves if he played regularly in 2024, I can see why the club were hesitant to hand him his debut.
@@everythingessendon548 fortunately he’s bought in a resigned but he needs a debut next year at some stage to avoid any thoughts of walking out the door
Laverde is very under-rated. One of the few guys in the side that shows a bit of toughness and remember he is forced to play on big forwards week in week out while he is NOT a big back. Yes, he fumbles and makes a few mistakes but who wouldn't when you don't have a midfield that places pressure on up the field. EFC in an attempt to appear to do the right thing (post drug saga) always bow to the most recent criticisms and dominant narratives from outside the club. They are unduly over-influenced by others and go either too hard or too soft. To much attention is paid to outside noise. This is why they remain a nothing club that has gone nowhere in almost a quarter of a century.
110% been saying this all year. Imagine where we would have been without him over the last few years (before we got McKay). The guy puts his head over it and has a crack when he has been playing on guys twice his size. Has a few brain fades and looks a bit of a goose some times, but can't question his heart and commitment. I think he will be an invaluable depth player in the coming years, and hope to see him even improve his game with more support and bigger guys around him.
It's my understanding that Eddie Betts played the last four years of his career on One year contracts, it didn't seem to bother him that much. If it's good enough for Eddie Betts, then it's definitely good enough for this pair. It could be argued that Stringer won games for us this year, though surely this must not be taken as a positive... given that we missed the 8 again. If Stringer Had really been consistent for the entire year and Had been accurate in front of goal, then surely we Would be in the 8... but we're not. (and he wasn't.) If you'd like a positive out of all this, just imagine the pandemonium if Petracca had nominated Essendon as a destination... so be thankful that this is Only about Jake and Jayden Laverde. By the way, who said Lewis Hayes was underdone? Kevin Sheedy played the 17 year Dustin Fletcher as a Key defender when he was still at school... it didn't seem to bother him either. One thing that Essendon need to STOP doing, is coming up with excuses as to why not... they need to start coming up with reasons why they WILL, not why they Won't. What possible damage would it have done, if they'd given Lewis Hayes a run at ANY time during the HnA? He's been on the list for the past two years, has completed every training session and played every game... I'm at a loss as to why Essendon continue to hold players back. What are they afraid of? Surely it's not losing?
I would happily trade both Laverde and Stringer. We've gone as far as we can go with these players and we may be able to get second round picks for them.
What about David Barham. If he had a contract, it wouldn't be renewed. He should resign from the board. If anyone has under achieved it's him! 2 years- NO finals. Ben Rutten 2 years 1 final. Time to judge yourself, with the same sword that was used to knife Ben in the back!
I believe Stringer kicked 9 goals from his last 10 games & to me looked spent or unfit. Laverde tries hard and is undersized to play on key forwards but he simply turns the ball over way too much.
Can we get Nick Hayes please? And I think we need Jake 42 is something we need. Nate is to young and Peter Wright can’t get a game, we need Matt for the blues as will
Get rid of Parish, McGrath and Zac Reid Parish need to learn how to kick, Reid is permanently injured and Mc Grath is 2 meters too slow. Instead let's get rid of Mr 42 goals and Mr backline interception. But Common sense is not very common anymore. Instead Social commentators keep talking rubbish and influencing self serving administrators and a football department.That is apparently untouchable
Thanks for the vid. Sorry mate, but I could not disagree with you more. If a player is not good enough to be on an AFL list, that's where the story ends. I'm so sick of the B.S around "depth". Well if another AFL club is in the market for a slow "defender" with poor defensive skills, poor decision making, poor disposal and is consistently beaten by average players then Laverde is your man....Hell, have Kelly as well. We let players waste away in the 2's cause they "are not ready". Look what happens when you give them a chance...Bryan, Roberts Caddy. Sheedy played Fletch, when he was a schoolboy, on Kernahan in a GF for christ sake! We have been a nice club for way too long, especially since the supps debacle, keeping players when they should be moved on. As it is we may lose Hobbs and Tsatas because of this approach. We have a solid core of good players, but we need to cut deep. The next 2 drafts - which supposedly run deep - may be our last chance to get talent in before tassie. Otherwise, we stay the nice club and watch as north, West coast, Richmond and even Tassie go right past us. The choice may be go back a few years and build a competetive talented list, or stay middle of the road for a few decades.
I don’t think Laverde is part of our future, but we have a key defensive zone full of injury prone players, Laverde is the only one regularly available, we can’t just hope that McKay, Ridley, Reid and Cox will have seasons without interruptions, our depth will be in a far worse position if Laverde was to leave.
@@everythingessendon548 We will have to agree to disagree. We could have done no worse playing Hayes over Laverde...Get games into him and learn on the job. We are not in contention next year so why stuff around plodding on with sub-standard players. Every club has injurys...It's part of the game.. Carlton had a truck load and still made the finals, good clubs adapt.
Ricky Olerenshaw was still at school too mate. He had to ask his Father if it was ok if he got a premiership tattoo! Joe Misiti was only a kid. What you're saying about the kids being wasted away in the 2nds is exactly right. Everyone's pissing and moaning about D'Ambrossio moving on, (and rightly so) what about Patrick Voss? He could have been inline to replace Stringer IF they'd given him a run. There he was a year ago klunkin em from everywhere every bloody week in the 2nds, then they cut him without ever running him. He must have had a photo of someone @ EFC fucking a pig. Then because Voss is gone, there's still no one to replace Stringer on the current list, whether you like it or not... Stringer (unbelievably) is still filling a hole. Offer him a year, though they MUST blood some kid from somewhere with the idea of replacing Stringer. It's tragic that Baldwin couldn't get on the park, he's still only a kid would could play forward... but he's gone and that's that.
Stringer has earned a two year deal. Genuine match winner and leading goal kicker. Don’t think Leverde has. 1 year deal. He’s not Ridley. We should be doing a deal with Melbourne for Petracca (if he passes a medical) let Shiel and Wright go in exchange plus a future draft pick and go and draft Kako and Armstrong in the first two rounds.
Stringer is a genuine part timer, who occasionally shines. When he does shine his best is very good, but it's not often enough. Anyway, he needs to be kept on a tight leash, and a one year contract will do that, otherwise he will sit on his lounge and stuff himself and do nothing else.
Petracca is too much of a spoilt brat, mate. Apart from that he's banged up big time, there's no guarantee he'll ever come back. He won't leave the Dees because no other club could fit him, thank fuck he's not our problem. He needs to stick to making toasted sandwiches, or whatever it is he cooks. Chicken Pesto, so fucking what?!!!?
Stringer may be a genuine match winner and actually second leading goal kicker behind Langford. That's all well and good but its the other mitigating factors you have to look at. Such as the fact he is still isn't professional enough after all these years both with us and the Bulldogs for the first half of his career. He is now at an age (30) where he really should be one of the leaders of the club but isn't nor can ever be trusted be.
All the comments I've read are all referring to remove some and replacing I say whats the point when 95 % can't even play properly anyway . focus on learning how to play , coach
Neither are really halting the development of anyone, Laverde was set to play behind Reid before his injury, and we don't have any young power forwards behind Stringer.
@@everythingessendon548 I would argue the forward line is sometimes a bit of a mess with Stringer in the line up. Team success is paramount, not selfish behaviour in pursuit of personal contracts.
@@everythingessendon548 Sam plays a very attacking role - but when he needs to defend, he is well capable. Parish is still incapable of sticking a tackle in a leser role. Capabilities are exactly that. Parish Shiel and Tsatas would all do us a favour by going elsewhere imo. Defensive liability also takes turnover tendencies into account in my mind.
Stringer is a part time player and a full time in the trough type guy, Stringer may eat himself to death. He is a one year contract player only, each and every year. It will do him no harm, all this job security nonsense is ridiculous when we're talking about sportsmen and women. If he left the Dons, you wouldn't miss him, he only plays a few of the matches he's actually in lol.
We need to be ruthless...enough of the bullshit
@@ryanjames6831 yes. No more boys club.
Seems like that is what the club is doing thankfully
we need good players because our players are very bad
Signing Cox, Guelfi, stuck with 2m Archie and a defensive boring coach. No light in sight
@@Crazyklips886 yeah, the list doesn't look great when you put it like that. But it's a significant culture shift if you observe how Merett responded to the club's decision. It seems to me that it was a boys club for a long time and Dodoro was a bit sentimental in his decisions.
They both have contracts for next year! If they are worth 2 they’ll prove it in 2025.
I love that the club is (supposedly) standing firm….About time!
Love that attitude
To quote a good show in shoresy "it's not that they don't love to win.. it's that they don't hate to lose." i can think of like 2 players on our team that genuinely hate losing in Calders and Zerrett the rest just like winning. We need more of the former
Only Merrett Durham and Caldwell “set the tone” the rest play like fish the lippy c#%t
I’d add Laverde to that list, although his talent lets him down
If this is correct, what the club is saying, especially to Jake, is get your body right over pre season then come back and have a blinder next year. I'm sure if this happens then he is sure to get another chance to go around again.
Its absolutely the correct approach from the club.
Yep, give the players the contracts they deserve.
As soon as you said Sam McClure my eyes rolled.
This whole club makes my eyes roll.
Exactly the reason I am not 100% sold on this news yet
To be honest, I was thinking a month ago, we would 100% re-sign Stringer and co to a 2-3 year extension, Dodoro would've in a heart beat. This is exactly what we need. STOP overpaying average players to long deals. It seems players for the longest time have held the club to ransom, and I for one, are stoked the club is getting some balls. Funny how as soon as Dodoro is gone, the unnecessary, and ridiculous length of contracts has halted, almost immediately.
Also, with the draft being as strong and deep as it's meant to be, and we apparently have 2 picks, we really should be trading a lot of players to build the list before Tassie comes in.
We got no depth, that’s how bad it is.
Yep! It’s probably the reason the players are upset, they are used to getting what they want
Thank fuck we have been asking for this for ages
Shame this wasnt done with Redman McGrath or Parish these guys should not be on 6 year deals
Add Peter Wright to that list
@@everythingessendon548 and Nic Cox
@@everythingessendon548 one good year for a 6 year deal is crazy
We'll see how ruthless Matt Rosa really is, Parish needs to be sent packing while he's still worth something. All he does is interfere with what Durham and Caldwell WERE DOING when he was out injured.
I'd stand every single Essendon player who's on a ridiculous long term contract in the same room as Darcy Parish when he's suddenly told he's surplus to requirements (which he is.) THEN you'd see some effort from all those boys (including Mackay, what a waste of bloody good money) instead of them wondering round like nothing matters.
Do I hate Darcy Parish? Not at all, I don't care about him... I live in Queensland and will likely never meet the bloke. Though the undeniable truth is now that Durham and Caldwell HAVE worked out where the goal posts are, our boy Darcy suddenly IS surplus to requirements. As I said, trade him immediately while he's still worth something.
@@liushuai2993ship him to Melbourne for Petracca
Essendon has been a boys club for too long. They all want to sign big deals and play with their mates. No winning culture at all. It's just a laugh and a pay packet for most of them. Clean out the place, and show the list we expect more.
Agreed, this is a good culture shift
Need to be ruthless, good bye stringer, enjoy retirement, your pace are 5 yards off it… Big clean out, put every1 on notice..
If this is indeed Matt Rosa setting new standards - l am all in. Sweet Jesus it is overdue and the previous generosity of our recruiting department is a huge part of where we find ourselves today and an insight into our last 20 years
Exactly, good signs so far
100% behind the club on this. Don't care if Contract Stringer kicked 40 goals - the way he has approached things over the last few years is culture-destroying. He will not be in our next premiership team, so either turn up next year ready to crack in as a leader and earn another deal, or move tf on to your better option. I would consider an extension for Lav as a depth player, and also the fact he bleeds for this team. Regardless of his brain fades, at least he puts his head over it and will have your back in a blue.
Fix the cultural issues now so the young up and coming players learn how to be professional.
@@everythingessendon548 absolutely mate. Anyone with a leadership background will tell you that most people are a product of their environment. I would hate to see another generation of our youth come up under the recent Bombers culture. Need to save em while they are still young enough to be saved.
Stringer is such a frustrating player!
Agreed, had a good year, but not really when it mattered
Stand firm Essendon. If you think they deserve single year contracts, then offer single year contracts.
This club has to start putting winning first, we have placated players since the saga, now the club administration needs to lead by example and show that winning is the priority.
I’d hate to see them both extend their contracts in a week
I’m glad the club is appearing to make a statement with this ‘take it or leave it’ approach, players like stringer have been calling the shots for too long.
Agreed, hopefully it lasts
Similar thing happened at the end of the 2001 season. Due to Essendon's tight salary cap situation, Essendon could only offer Damien Hardwick a one year renewal. Instead Hardwick accepted a three year deal with Port Adelaide where he went on to be a season 2004 premiership player.
This is not due to salary cap restraints at least, it’s just the club taking a firm stance
Thank god. About time the club grows some balls!
Agreed!
Why wouldn't Stringer want to go for another flag? A 42 Goal non KPF wanting out and potentially on the cheap would be a no brainer for a few teams.
Agreed, plenty would offer him 2 years.
@@everythingessendon548 He would be the perfect opportunistic forward for a club like Collingwood or Hawthorn. There are not many clubs that wouldn't be interested in a half forward who has just finished equal 10th in the Coleman medal with 42 gaols (one gaol behind Langford). After Jake, the next best Essendon goal kicker managed only 19 goals. One question for those who want to ditch him: Who can replace him and kick 42 goals next year?
@@JMKeynes8491No top team will want Stringer regardless of his 42 goals. At best Carlton would probably take him. Otherwise he ends up at another middling road team like St Kilda or Melbourne.
We have Issac Kako coming in who is very highly rated and could easily have a 2018 Jaidyn Stephenson or 2022 Jack Ginnivan borderline star level debut year. Nic Martin will more than likely move to a high half forward/wing role with Archie Roberts now in the team and Saad El Hawli likely coming through. He possesses a lot of natural small forward craft anyway. Even though he hasn't exactly developed much, Archie Perkins is naturally a Stringer type of player with very similar traits to him. So maybe and I may be stretching a bit here with him gone Perkins may be unleashed. But like I said that could be quite a stretch. Either way the forward line will have a lot more pace next season which hopefully comes with a much better, much improved fast ball movement style of gameplan to match it. So it really shouldn't be that difficult make it work without Stringer. Many teams have been able losing players similar to him over the years.
Stringer must be kept. He is one of few players we have who can be a match winner. We know the history of letting players go...four of them are likely to play finals this year: Daniher, Saad, Fantasia and D'Ambrosio. Inexplicably, D'Ambrosio was let go last year for virtually nothing. Now he is starring for the Hawks.
Yes keep for his contract of 2025 then let him walk, enough of these players thinking they are bigger than the club and he thinks he bigger than the club the right time to reset and set an example and if players are going to get their noses out of joint then that’s the problem time to make it a winning culture.
@@jayscott5439you realize it’s an extension clause. It means he has the option of extending it. He can choose not to.
@@InsafFouz well he can either extend it for the yr or leave this season then pretty easy choice for him to make
Dude is shite. Don't extend him. He is lazy and unprofessional and only performs in contract years. Let him go.
We don’t need a flaky match winner, we need to build a team winning culture. We can’t rely on any one player or we’ll continue to be a bottom half of the ladder club. He has a one year deal. Take it or go somewhere else.
You can’t trust anything Sam Mclure says.
The fact that other reporters have come out with similar narratives is intriguing though
If Sam mcclure said the sun was coming up tomorrow I’d get a second opinion.
And rightfully so
I was worried that mckay would get injured too. Currently if that happened and if laverde was gone, i guess hayes replaces mckay and lual replaces laverde. I guess we could hang onto to weideman instead of laverde. Like we have to replace heppell weideman and baldwin and get one more defender, i guess if we are looking for 4 ready made defenders, why not try to get 5.
Exactly why we need Laverde on the list, he isn’t great but he is at least regularly available
With Stringer I dont think they will give him a new deal, the club will look to trade him and get better draft picks. Given the bombers were in the top 5 teams for inside 50 entries, with that much opportunity I would expect a greater return from the one who calls himself "the package". I like Laverde, if he is playing great footy at the end of next season he can get a deal, there is still time for him to prove himself, but again the club might be looking to get draft capital.
Im heartened to see the list management being ruthless, it actually indicates how soft Dodoro was and how much he was influencing these decisions.
To be fair to Stringer he warrants the oppositions best defenders and still kicks almost 2 goals a game
@@everythingessendon548 true, he did have some shocking misses. But the forward line needs a separate overhaul
Scott needs to also explain WHY D’Ambrosio was virtually given away and is now an All-Australian! Ridiculous decision while giving multi year deals to show ponies. The Club needs a Hawthorn style clean out.
Not sure it was Scott’s decision, but agreed
Matt Rosa met up with Harley Reid yesterday in Port Melbourne make of that what you will
Not sure if there is any substance to that rumour
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@Matthew_Scan
Hope we can get him. I know he's contracted. We can only hope
@@everythingessendon548there was a photo
love stringer as a fringe player but i can see why the club is hesitant on extension as both stringer and laverde are doing enough
Yep, I think one year deals are faid
This has been an issue on Essendon for awhile they’re more interested in playing with the boys and going on holiday with the boys then playing finals it’s time to take it seriously no more BS it’s time to get to work!
Stringer will go to Hawthorn next year and kick 50 goals and play finals.
He may not have been the most professional and got the most out of his career, but he kicked 42 goals and did offer forward pressure.
Playing hardball over giving him another year seems futile and will just push him out.
It at least teaches younger players that you are only rewarded when you deserve it
@@everythingessendon548 He was 1 goal behind your goal kicking leader and 10th for goal kicking in the broader competition. If he doesn't deserve it now, he knows he never will get anything beyond a 1 year contract. He should just move to whoever is willing to pay him the most.
They shouldn't give any contract extensions for Lavarde. If they can load him off somewhere, like you mentioned, I have been hearing there are suitors circling him..I hope they are serious. Its the best news for me and win-win for Essendon. We should get rid of Lavarde and get someone decent if we could.
I’d only get rid of Laverde if we knew we could replace him, without Laverde this year you would have seen much more of Sam Weideman
Who really cares if stringer stays or goes? he won't be around when we challenge anyway
We’ll look a lot worse without him next year
What does it matter when you got Ben McKay getting 1.3m a year and he’s the most scored on key defender in the league
1.3 mil for his first season, top loaded deal that gets smaller every year
Keep both, when Reid gets back put him in, Laverde can be the bench backline.
Our backline I would choose: Ried, McKay and Ridley
: Martin, McGrath, Redman
Maybe, though Zac Reid is looking more and more like Scotty Gumbleton every day. By the way, Martin is wasted behind the ball... He needs to be forward of centre, for the entire game... every game. I'll never know what you're doing CHOOSING McGrath at all.
Lewis Hayes should be in that backline. The kid has been solid it in the VFL all season just like Archie Roberts, Nick Bryan and Nate Caddy who are firmly in the team. Unlike Zach Reid his body isn't made of carbon fibre cruel as that may be to say.
Hopefully Hayes builds muscle and plays in that backline next year
If both sign one year deals, we’ll be going over the same ground in 12 months time.
And that is much better than allowing the players to play without risk of a delisting for an extra season.
@@everythingessendon548 it may mean we go backwards for a year or two , but it’s a risk worth taking, something this club hasn’t shown in some time . The list has proven where it’s really at, add to that a fairly healthy year we’ve just seen and it equals doing the same thing over and over again . Looks to be a deep draft so why not roll the dice and being in some pics in the 20’s-30’s and beyond to go with hopefully Kako and another key forward early
Don't get rid of stringer until we have the talent pushing him out of the side.
Parish to Melbourne for Trac and have Stringer and Trac as the 2nd 3rd options with 2MP.
We have Issac Kako coming in who with proper game time could easily have a 2018 Jaidyn Stephenson or 2022 Jack Ginnivan borderline star level debut year. There is also Nic Martin who will than likely more to a high half forward/wing role and he possesses a lot of natural small forward craft anyway. As well as Nate Caddy continuing to grow and grow. Gotta think about the future (especially given we are suppose to rebuilding) and quite simply Stringer and various others are not the future of the club going forward.
Petracca staying at Melbourne
Hayes was the runner up in the VFL best and fairest, I’d argue he’s ready
I have watched him very closely in the VFL and am excited for what he has to offer in the future, but have been thrown to the wolves if he played regularly in 2024, I can see why the club were hesitant to hand him his debut.
@@everythingessendon548 fortunately he’s bought in a resigned but he needs a debut next year at some stage to avoid any thoughts of walking out the door
You’d be happy to know McCrap is getting a long term deal
He has already gotten that deal
Think his getting a 6 extension on the 6
Laverde is very under-rated. One of the few guys in the side that shows a bit of toughness and remember he is forced to play on big forwards week in week out while he is NOT a big back. Yes, he fumbles and makes a few mistakes but who wouldn't when you don't have a midfield that places pressure on up the field. EFC in an attempt to appear to do the right thing (post drug saga) always bow to the most recent criticisms and dominant narratives from outside the club. They are unduly over-influenced by others and go either too hard or too soft. To much attention is paid to outside noise. This is why they remain a nothing club that has gone nowhere in almost a quarter of a century.
Not a great player, but a tough, hard at it depth option, it’s why I want him to stay
@@everythingessendon548 Yep, he has heart - something that the majority of his team mates lack.
110% been saying this all year. Imagine where we would have been without him over the last few years (before we got McKay). The guy puts his head over it and has a crack when he has been playing on guys twice his size. Has a few brain fades and looks a bit of a goose some times, but can't question his heart and commitment. I think he will be an invaluable depth player in the coming years, and hope to see him even improve his game with more support and bigger guys around him.
Laverde can't even keep track of his player. Always 10 metres from opponent when the ball comes into defensive 50.
@@thomes7318 he aint the best, but he aint the only one. Lack of upfield pressure really doesn't help. At least he doesn't mind contact.
It's my understanding that Eddie Betts played the last four years of his career on One year contracts, it didn't seem to bother him that much. If it's good enough for Eddie Betts, then it's definitely good enough for this pair.
It could be argued that Stringer won games for us this year, though surely this must not be taken as a positive... given that we missed the 8 again. If Stringer Had really been consistent for the entire year and Had been accurate in front of goal, then surely we Would be in the 8... but we're not. (and he wasn't.)
If you'd like a positive out of all this, just imagine the pandemonium if Petracca had nominated Essendon as a destination... so be thankful that this is Only about Jake and Jayden Laverde.
By the way, who said Lewis Hayes was underdone? Kevin Sheedy played the 17 year Dustin Fletcher as a Key defender when he was still at school... it didn't seem to bother him either. One thing that Essendon need to STOP doing, is coming up with excuses as to why not... they need to start coming up with reasons why they WILL, not why they Won't.
What possible damage would it have done, if they'd given Lewis Hayes a run at ANY time during the HnA? He's been on the list for the past two years, has completed every training session and played every game... I'm at a loss as to why Essendon continue to hold players back. What are they afraid of? Surely it's not losing?
If only we had prime Eddie on our list
I would happily trade both Laverde and Stringer. We've gone as far as we can go with these players and we may be able to get second round picks for them.
If worst comes to worst and they ask to be traded, we at least get draft capital to safely match a Kako bid.
McClure? The seer that said Carlton was a shoe in for the Premiership this year?
Yep, hard to trust him
What about David Barham. If he had a contract, it wouldn't be renewed. He should resign from the board. If anyone has under achieved it's him! 2 years- NO finals. Ben Rutten 2 years 1 final. Time to judge yourself, with the same sword that was used to knife Ben in the back!
I assume he’ll be under fire next year if results don’t go our way
Stringer has signed a long term contract with Jenny Craig.
I believe Stringer kicked 9 goals from his last 10 games & to me looked spent or unfit. Laverde tries hard and is undersized to play on key forwards but he simply turns the ball over way too much.
He kicked 18 from his last 10, most against poor opponents though.
Fair enough, 1 year only though.
If Merrett is unhappy about his mates contracts, then move him on as well.
Don’t know how the club will look without Merrett
Can we get Nick Hayes please? And I think we need Jake 42 is something we need. Nate is to young and Peter Wright can’t get a game, we need Matt for the blues as will
Haynes is 32 and not playing much footy, wouldn’t want him
@@everythingessendon548 yes
Keeping signing in talent like Jye Menzie 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Extend his contract, keep him here till 2030
Get rid of Parish, McGrath and Zac Reid Parish need to learn how to kick, Reid is permanently injured and Mc Grath is 2 meters too slow. Instead let's get rid of Mr 42 goals and Mr backline interception. But Common sense is not very common anymore. Instead Social commentators keep talking rubbish and influencing self serving administrators and a football department.That is apparently untouchable
Parish and McGrath are both good players who are victims of their high draft position unfortunately
Imagine talking smack about Sam when 90% of the time he’s spot on. Lost all your credibility…
His credibility was lost when he claimed West Coast would never draft Harley Reid
I hope that I give stringer a contract he's not that good, we all know he's not consistent
Exactly why the club are hesitant to extend
Keep Stringer & Laverede.
Sell Wright.
Wright is contracted for quite a while unfortunately
Thanks for the vid. Sorry mate, but I could not disagree with you more. If a player is not good enough to be on an AFL list, that's where the story ends. I'm so sick of the B.S around "depth". Well if another AFL club is in the market for a slow "defender" with poor defensive skills, poor decision making, poor disposal and is consistently beaten by average players then Laverde is your man....Hell, have Kelly as well.
We let players waste away in the 2's cause they "are not ready". Look what happens when you give them a chance...Bryan, Roberts Caddy. Sheedy played Fletch, when he was a schoolboy, on Kernahan in a GF for christ sake! We have been a nice club for way too long, especially since the supps debacle, keeping players when they should be moved on. As it is we may lose Hobbs and Tsatas because of this approach.
We have a solid core of good players, but we need to cut deep. The next 2 drafts - which supposedly run deep - may be our last chance to get talent in before tassie. Otherwise, we stay the nice club and watch as north, West coast, Richmond and even Tassie go right past us. The choice may be go back a few years and build a competetive talented list, or stay middle of the road for a few decades.
I don’t think Laverde is part of our future, but we have a key defensive zone full of injury prone players, Laverde is the only one regularly available, we can’t just hope that McKay, Ridley, Reid and Cox will have seasons without interruptions, our depth will be in a far worse position if Laverde was to leave.
@@everythingessendon548 We will have to agree to disagree. We could have done no worse playing Hayes over Laverde...Get games into him and learn on the job. We are not in contention next year so why stuff around plodding on with sub-standard players. Every club has injurys...It's part of the game.. Carlton had a truck load and still made the finals, good clubs adapt.
Ricky Olerenshaw was still at school too mate. He had to ask his Father if it was ok if he got a premiership tattoo! Joe Misiti was only a kid. What you're saying about the kids being wasted away in the 2nds is exactly right.
Everyone's pissing and moaning about D'Ambrossio moving on, (and rightly so) what about Patrick Voss? He could have been inline to replace Stringer IF they'd given him a run. There he was a year ago klunkin em from everywhere every bloody week in the 2nds, then they cut him without ever running him. He must have had a photo of someone @ EFC fucking a pig.
Then because Voss is gone, there's still no one to replace Stringer on the current list, whether you like it or not... Stringer (unbelievably) is still filling a hole. Offer him a year, though they MUST blood some kid from somewhere with the idea of replacing Stringer. It's tragic that Baldwin couldn't get on the park, he's still only a kid would could play forward... but he's gone and that's that.
@@everythingessendon548 Right.
Stringer has earned a two year deal. Genuine match winner and leading goal kicker. Don’t think Leverde has. 1 year deal. He’s not Ridley. We should be doing a deal with Melbourne for Petracca (if he passes a medical) let Shiel and Wright go in exchange plus a future draft pick and go and draft Kako and Armstrong in the first two rounds.
Stringer is a genuine part timer, who occasionally shines. When he does shine his best is very good, but it's not often enough. Anyway, he needs to be kept on a tight leash, and a one year contract will do that, otherwise he will sit on his lounge and stuff himself and do nothing else.
I am happy with the 1 year extension, needed him in that 2nd half of the year and he was nowhere,m
Petracca is too much of a spoilt brat, mate. Apart from that he's banged up big time, there's no guarantee he'll ever come back. He won't leave the Dees because no other club could fit him, thank fuck he's not our problem. He needs to stick to making toasted sandwiches, or whatever it is he cooks. Chicken Pesto, so fucking what?!!!?
Stringer may be a genuine match winner and actually second leading goal kicker behind Langford. That's all well and good but its the other mitigating factors you have to look at. Such as the fact he is still isn't professional enough after all these years both with us and the Bulldogs for the first half of his career. He is now at an age (30) where he really should be one of the leaders of the club but isn't nor can ever be trusted be.
All the comments I've read are all referring to remove some and replacing
I say whats the point when 95 % can't even play properly anyway .
focus on learning how to play , coach
Stringer knows how to play against bottom 4 teams
Laverde wouldn’t get a game in 17 other Clubs.
Carlton and St Kilda seem to think he could
I hope we get rid of both Stringer and Laverde. Make some opportunities for some kids.
Neither are really halting the development of anyone, Laverde was set to play behind Reid before his injury, and we don't have any young power forwards behind Stringer.
@@everythingessendon548 I would argue the forward line is sometimes a bit of a mess with Stringer in the line up. Team success is paramount, not selfish behaviour in pursuit of personal contracts.
Speaking of being ruthless, are we going to force defensive liabilities like Parish out?
Averages 0.1 less tackles per game than Sam Durham who we all praise for his defensive capabilities, Parish is far from a liability.
@@everythingessendon548 Sam plays a very attacking role - but when he needs to defend, he is well capable. Parish is still incapable of sticking a tackle in a leser role. Capabilities are exactly that. Parish Shiel and Tsatas would all do us a favour by going elsewhere imo. Defensive liability also takes turnover tendencies into account in my mind.
Move on stringer
You might get your wish
Stringer deserves a year a least Laverde can go
Stringer is a part time player and a full time in the trough type guy, Stringer may eat himself to death. He is a one year contract player only, each and every year. It will do him no harm, all this job security nonsense is ridiculous when we're talking about sportsmen and women. If he left the Dons, you wouldn't miss him, he only plays a few of the matches he's actually in lol.
I'd like them both to stay, but no one is bigger than the club.
All a bunch second hand losers , can't see any success in 3025,..... congratulations d Ambrosio for leaving and now playing in finals .
3026 is our year
Get rid of Laverde. If Esava is worth a second round pick surely we can get something decent for Jayden
Hell no
We wouldn’t get close to a 2nd round pick for Laverde
Pick 123 would be his worth
Stringer and Laverde are not in our future
What future?