Game looks and plays great. I'm playing the spellblade mage, this is the only game that does the mage with a sword like i would imagine it. The game plays more as an adventure game, it's very streamlined and on rails. To me it's a breath of fresh air, honestly i'm getting kinda tired of the big open world rpgs.
The only way to understand precisely why this game is such a drastic departure from the previous entries is to experience them. The stories from the prior games deal with politically complex, morally gray topics in a very adult way. The choices you are faced with in those games potentially have an impact across all three. Having waited, anticipated, this game for ten years, to have it move so far away from pretty much everything that defined the series is a fairly bitter pill to swallow. While I can find elements of the game to praise, (specifically graphics and performance), it's the writing that fails me the most. The previous titles had dialogue that was truly well composed. Even eloquent. Much of the writing in this game seems more appropriate for a CW show as opposed to the Dragon Age world. Tossing in terms and phrases from our era really didn't help. I'm not going to jump on the "it's trash" bandwagon, but I can't deny that I'm disappointed with some of what we got and highly disappointed with what we didn't get.
A CW show! That's actually a good comparison to the writing. I like that. I'm going back to get another feel for them. It almost feels like hyper expectations hurt people's enjoyment as well. Being the 4th entry, this had some crazy high bar to beat from the first 3. I'm okay with the writing being subpar because I do remember the actually gameplay from the last ones, and it was godawful. So if we get good gameplay instead, I'm hear for it.
@@thegamingcaffe I can only speak for myself (though I suspect that many of the Dragon Age community / fans would agree) that our love for that series had nothing to do with the combat mechanics. I don't think I'd ever look to the DA series for especially good combat. I'm not fond of Origins combat in particular. For so many of us, it's the stories, the characters, the world and it's lore. Those are the things that swept us up in what was created. A number of the game play systems implemented in to the game aren't bad. I didn't mind them. Again, because that stuff never mattered much in the first place. It's just that they feel like a hollow substitute for all the stuff that's been lost. I guess many in the DA community feel about Veilguard the same way many Tolkien fans felt about Rings of Power. Not quite the same thing, but pretty close.
@julianvaranel that's what baffles me. I can't imagine playing a game that didn't have fun gameplay. That's my reason for booting the game is to enjoy playing it, not enjoying the story. A good story takes it from a good time to a great experience, but it still needs the enjoyment factor for me. I just struggle to see enjoying a game that wasn't fun to actually play.
@@thegamingcaffe I do get where you're coming from. But, for many of us, the "fun" parts of the game were all those things I mentioned above. I suppose we all define fun differently. Ironically, the very thing you stated about game play is the very reason I loved Hogwarts Legacy. I felt the interaction with the other characters was a little lacking. What was there was good, I just wanted more. But I loved the combat and how it was implemented. And that game is one of may most favorite recent gaming experiences. Another good example is "What Remains of Edith Finch". It offers very little in term of actual game play, but the story is funny and sad, ironic and tragic. It speaks to the human condition in a very emotive way and what it means to be human. A game can be more than a game. It can be more than mere entertainment. Some games can be art.
Had to turn this off when he said he barely played the others. That is literally the core issue of the game. Drastic tonal shift. Drastic dialogue shift. Lack of previous Bioware features. Disregard for previous entries. Cant respect a review thats made in a vaccum of just this game alone. Dragon Age is dark fantasy. To say the tone doesnt matter makes this review a fkn joke
@robertthornton7900 What?? You mean a review about a single game doesn't take into account other games?🤣 It only seems to be an issue with OG players. Perhaps this was more like a reboot. Kinda feels like it.
I landed on 'it's fine' too. Running through to pick up the last 3 achievements second time round, it's fun enough to do. I have things I'd rather they'd done differently, where the tone of the dialogue and the events being portrayed don't really mesh too well and where I prefer things to be a bit grittier on the way to a resolution, but have also got to like a few of the companions (which I genuinely wasn't expecting). Thing I really would praise is the courage to step away from open world, and busy work content, and return to that loop of base to mission to base. Solid 7 out of 10 for me, where ME:A was a 6 and DA:I an 8.
@@zebedee5158 i agree with the transition on environment structure. I love having different zones to drop into rather than a massive world they would need to fill
Don't debase yourself. Even the title "non rage bate review" shows you're already going into this with an ulterior motive. Implying the negative reviews are just rage bait. I played the game start to finish, it's marvel. It's not awful from a gameplay point of view as an action game, the settings are really gorgeous and the music isn't bad. That's where the praise stops. It's not a true rpg, the combat is incredibly shallow and stops being fun by at minimum the halfway point of the game, very few of your decisions carry any real impact, the story has little to no bite, the only good companion is from a previous game, not being able to control your companions and them being immortal removes almost all tactics from the combat etc.... I can keep going. These games have always been atmosphere, character and story driven. It fails on all of those fronts, ESCPECIALLY when considering the series its attached too. I call it Marvel because it's pretty, flashy, and will entertain you for a bit if you don't think hard AT ALL and it will fall out of your memory as soon as you're done playing it. Anyone saying its 1/10 is wrong, but people calling it a masterpiece are doing so only for political reasons.
See and there's nothing wrong with that. If everything needs to be a 10/10, you'll always be disappointed, which is how a lot of people are at this point. I know how different this one is, but from a gameplay standpoint, it makes up for it for me. The previous entries gameplay was terrible. The story could be the story of the century, but if it's no fun to play, it's dead from the start. So I'm okay with this trade off.
Unfortunately the internet has already decided to hate this game and there can't be more than one opion on stuff like this online anymore... Therefore this comment section is full of if you like this game you are dumb and if you haven played the previous games you are not allowed to enjoy this one. I did nit like it very much, but am happy for anyone who did.
Well, it seems like this somehow set off a bunch of people who played the last games. I grew up playing Dragons Age and beat all of them. I beat the Inquisition in high school and have been waiting a long time for this. I actually like how it has a lot of quality-of-life features. But with the bizarre writing, I can't help but feel like they could have made a new IP with these features. All in all, I think this is a fair review, man.
Yeah the writing doesn't assume the player will pick up on context and lacks subtlety which is a letdown. it didn't bug me too much as the moment to moment gameplay is a blast.
I have an answer for you. This is not DA4. This is a spinoff that has merged with DA4. This is why the game is such a different beast compared to the previous entries.
@ir6734, I suppose, but I actually really liked Inquisition. The cast and crew were pretty interesting, and the Solas twist at the end made me sad cause he was actually like my inquisitor's close friend. I wanted something a lot more like an Inquisition part 2, but Veil Guard just kinda forgot about it.
@@CrowningBrowning I quite liked Inquisition too. And Veilguard would be a proper sequel, if it wasn't for the fact that DA4 and DA Online were cancelled and then merged into one game. You can find info on it online and you can see it clearly when playing Veilguard. The game is designed as an online coop experience. Unfortunate, but that's the truth.
I heard some other reviewer say this game would be one of those ”Remember this?” And they’ll replay and find out it’s actually not that bad. I still have gripes with it but I was hooked all the way really, with all but 1 certain companion and I think we all know who.
Yeah i could definitely see people picking it up a year from now, playing it and realizing like wow, this is a lot of fun. It's not what they expected, but it's a good time nonetheless.
@ I also forgive some aspects of the game as it was rebooted almost 3 times over the course of 10 years. First a single-player heist story, then an online multiplayer rpg and then finally this. I never expected the end product would be perfect after all that plus a lot of layoffs from Bioware as a company.
Only played Inquisition, and loved it. So I was excited for this until the reviews and clips. Seems like the serious tone from previous games is lost. The difficulty has been tuned down so far, it is made for a younger, dumbed down, generation. Same for the subtlety and ambiguity, changed into black and white. The party, and protag looks less interesting than the previous games in dialogue and backstory. If all that we had united previously is lost, and replaced with this, Is the story worth coninuing? Should I still buy it? After 3 weeks, still on the fence.
I'd say find a way to rent it. It's a big departure which has really bothered some, but the actually gameplay is leaps and bounds better. So it kinda depends on what you're playing for. Or wait for a black Friday sale
Many HATE this game specially long time Fans. You admitting that you did not enjoy the previous games says it all. This game is a SLAP to the face to us long time fans specially DA Origins. This game is trash compared to BG3. Them alienating their fanbase is a big no. You are the target audience for this game not long time Fans. Dragon Age has always been Dark and Gritty lol.
@@thegamingcaffe so do you think BG3 will be a success if they did the same with veilguard? Yeah that's right. This game deserved all the hate it received.
I thank you for being honest coming up and open about it despite knowing heat it will cause 😅 because I honestly lost faith on longtime channels I follow who grift on "Woke Bad" or "Choice don't matter" 🙏 even people like OG fans outright lie and change their view overnight like jayvee or BigDan as such and being constructive criticism of writing issues isn't top notch or have brighter theme.
@MrApoorvaSingh753 i think there is a sentiment these days of riding the negativity which does get views and engagement, so i can't be mad about that. But I wouldn't feel right knowing that I actually love iresGlad to know I've shown you some positivity🙌🎉
@@thegamingcaffe P.S I wanted to explain reason they lost faith on show don't tell and expectation from audience to be smart because a lot of criticism against 😂 Inquisition is Hinderland where people try to 100% first as level 5 go high level area and get obliterated 😂 and you can miss a lot of potential stories by not visiting War Table or picking other side where people hated Corypheus not involved where Calpernia mission Under Her Skin you can see how he thinks or feel about it or War Table mission Know Your Enemy of who Corypheus was before and people literally complained about so many collectibles or re-doing Requisition mission. 😂 I can add more stuff about it since unlike them I finished DAO + DLCs 11 times,DA2 3 times and DAI 5 times across PC & XBOX360/XBOX ONE so I know what I'm into 😂 and what I'm not.
damn that's devotion. I really like the revamp in world structure, art design, and tone. Humor during bad times kinda makes sense to keep yourself from freaking out
@@thegamingcaffe True! ❤ Haha thanks 😅 I come from OG Bioware era had played since KOTOR and BG2 they switch up flavors over the year has always been progressive which seems new for someone out of it. If you think that franchise is my dedication I wonder how you would feel for my Halo playthough and my comic & novel collections. 😂
It's a passable game, but it's a terrible Dragon Age game. The questionable writing aside, most of the real angst stems from how disappointing this game is for long term fans. "I wasnt looking for a deep RPG to sink 500 hours into" is a funny thing to say about a Dragon Age game, because that is exactly what long time fans want from a Dragon Age game. A deep RPG with consequential decisions that respects the decisions made in prior games. Veilguard fails to do any of that.
Some things in life are ubiquitous. Some people in life are contrarians. The hate for this game is ubiquitous. And as someone who played it for ~20 hours, I’m in agreement with all the criticism. You’re a contrarian. And/or your pov has been distorted bc you didn’t spend as many hours as we have in prior dragon age games. But in that case, it’s arguably an okay rpg. But it is axiomatically a bad dragon age. Also it’s not “rage bait” to not want a game to condescendingly lecture you about how it’s wrong to misgender people.
@Overlyopinionated-wl8jq I appreciate how well constructed this response is. While you have valid points, game lecturing at you only takes up about 5% of the game. I may be in the minority with this game specifically, but I don't see it conducive to let that 5% ruin the other 95%. Also the other Dragon Ages are on Gamepass, so I think I'll go jump back in and see what everyone wants this to be.
I cannot get passed the new combat too much chaos and I am not forced to play as a carry over being able to play the way I would like. I was on my first playthrough as a pacifist support mage making my team do the best they can. And second playthrough being an evil rogue. And way the game is now you're forced to be a hero to be the carry and the companions are now back up dancers its to me boring and I cannot get past the start cause of the combat. Still hope others enjoy it and get out of it what they like. But to me pass I tried not for me anymore sucks but eh that is life.
I'm also enjoying the combat of the game, and just like you im not as sensitive as the other people with the narrative and stuff since the story is still solid, the art style is subjective to individuals and your right the biggest haters are always the DAO hardliners, i mean most of the OG dragon age players hated DA2 and Inquisition as well so regardless of whatever new Dragon Age game comes out the OG fans will always hate it anyway. The only problem I really have with the game is I wish they had a new game plus cos when I optimized my build and party combinations the game got easy pretty quick but then again I played it in underdog difficulty and maybe nightmare will be much better.
Yeah a new game plus would be great! I could see them adding it down the road or a mod coming out for it. I'm glad you're enjoying it. I feel extra lucky I never went back to old ones before now because this has been really refreshing as something easy to jump into and have fun without expectations.
"People want it to be all dark because of Elden Ring". The moment i stopped. The DA franchise was here way before that game (A single game, not a franchise).
@@thegamingcaffe The dude literally explained to you that Dragon Age was already dark and gritty before Dark Souls was even a thing and you still came back with a clueless "Nuh uh, it's coz of Elden Ring!"...
@@verde5738King’s field, Shadow tower and Eternal ring were made by Fromsoft could be you were too young to remember but Fromsoft have been making dark fantasy games before BioWare.
@thegamingcaffe the entire first game was about saving Fereldan. The current game that is supposed to continue this story shows in a Footnote how Fereldan (the entire first game) is destroyed making everything you did in the first game pointless. Not mention destroying all the lore we learned from the previous games. You clearly dont know or care about any of that, but for people like me dragon age was the first game i played where i felt like i could make choices in the world i was playing, not mention the other positive aspects of it.
@@thegamingcaffe yeah thats not a good reason to do this. You cant use a legacy to make a game and expect people who liked those games to be happy with a game that has almost nothing to do with dragon age except for some memberberries. Im not getting a game that continues that legacy either. So this isnt some alternate universe, its a cash grab for another lazy corperation that doesnt care about the IP.
So what I got from this is "I dont care I had fun" which I mean fair enough, good for you man, but you cant say the game was good even in comparison to a game like inquisition that had nuance and well written characters that made you care about them, the game even warned you your companions could die if you didnt go do some busy work with them at what's supposed to be a point of no return, zero stakes at all, tonally all over the place, immersion breaking when the characters in one breath will say "the world is ending we need to act" and then follow it up with "but how does everyone feel first? lets go around the table" its got some cool looking combat for sure, but it doesnt make sense, everyone is suddenly a mage? mages were contentious in every dragon age game, I dont care if the warrior "doesnt use magic" the multiple bouncing shield that can be charged up before being thrown and the magically summoned scythe ARE MAGIC, whats the point of playing a mage if everyone is different flavours of mage? warrior focus abilities used to be badass and had unque effects, now its just, big scythe, temper tantrum with an elbow drop, or bouncy shield go BRRRRR, the most choice ive seen is if you chose to fight the dragon in minrathous or you choose to fight the dragon in treviso, and the differences are non existant, bioware got shit on for mass effect having 3 different colour endings, now we got 5 endings of "solas goes to the fade, angry or sad edition"
@thegamingcaffe and that's fine, I found the combat repetitive and dull and the crpg elements greatly lacking, but if you enjoyed it my opinion cant and shouldnt take that away from you
@jesserebelo3583 true. Luckily for both of us, there are new games every week, including stalker 2 tomorrow. So there's always something to fill the void
@@Donemessedup yeah there's so much more to this game. If everyone stops and focuses on the 2 or 3 instances of cringe or drop-off, we'll never enjoy anything. Just started my 2nd playthrough as a mage!
Bro saw the media drop the game and now wants to become the next shill. Honestly I genuinely hope you get your bag and it works out but if you actually fr believe what you say yikes.
I did say that there are things i like about this game and things i don't like about this game but to say that it is all crap when you haven't even played it is a disservice to gaming industry it self. When you only take someone elses word on things you miss out on that personal view. Why do they still dunk on this game? Well for some it gets those clicks on their videos and it makes them money. Only one that talks about this they them is the Quanari no one else.
@BlondeNordic Yeah it seems like the people with the biggest issue against it are OG fans who got super attached from the previous games and hate to see the departure. I agree, but also I think some people struggle to form their owns opinions when they've been listening to others for so long and using that to make decisions.
@@thegamingcaffe that you dont need a game you can sink 500 hours into, i mean that quite specifically what dragon age is supposed to be. they have books in the game you read
@@thegamingcaffe it varies if you do side quests or go off the beaten path you’ll encounter stronger mobs. It makes the boss fights more interesting and it seems they are handled pretty well. I’m doing a nercotic duelist build.
Game looks and plays great. I'm playing the spellblade mage, this is the only game that does the mage with a sword like i would imagine it. The game plays more as an adventure game, it's very streamlined and on rails. To me it's a breath of fresh air, honestly i'm getting kinda tired of the big open world rpgs.
I agree with you …after 1200 hours of bg3 it’s a nice change of pace
The only way to understand precisely why this game is such a drastic departure from the previous entries is to experience them.
The stories from the prior games deal with politically complex, morally gray topics in a very adult way. The choices you are faced
with in those games potentially have an impact across all three. Having waited, anticipated, this game for ten years, to have it
move so far away from pretty much everything that defined the series is a fairly bitter pill to swallow. While I can find elements of
the game to praise, (specifically graphics and performance), it's the writing that fails me the most. The previous titles had dialogue
that was truly well composed. Even eloquent. Much of the writing in this game seems more appropriate for a CW show as opposed
to the Dragon Age world. Tossing in terms and phrases from our era really didn't help. I'm not going to jump on the "it's trash"
bandwagon, but I can't deny that I'm disappointed with some of what we got and highly disappointed with what we didn't get.
A CW show! That's actually a good comparison to the writing. I like that. I'm going back to get another feel for them. It almost feels like hyper expectations hurt people's enjoyment as well. Being the 4th entry, this had some crazy high bar to beat from the first 3. I'm okay with the writing being subpar because I do remember the actually gameplay from the last ones, and it was godawful. So if we get good gameplay instead, I'm hear for it.
@@thegamingcaffe I can only speak for myself (though I suspect that many of the Dragon Age community / fans would agree) that our love for that
series had nothing to do with the combat mechanics. I don't think I'd ever look to the DA series for especially good combat. I'm not fond of Origins
combat in particular. For so many of us, it's the stories, the characters, the world and it's lore. Those are the things that swept us up in what was
created. A number of the game play systems implemented in to the game aren't bad. I didn't mind them. Again, because that stuff never mattered much
in the first place. It's just that they feel like a hollow substitute for all the stuff that's been lost. I guess many in the DA community feel about Veilguard
the same way many Tolkien fans felt about Rings of Power. Not quite the same thing, but pretty close.
@julianvaranel that's what baffles me. I can't imagine playing a game that didn't have fun gameplay. That's my reason for booting the game is to enjoy playing it, not enjoying the story. A good story takes it from a good time to a great experience, but it still needs the enjoyment factor for me. I just struggle to see enjoying a game that wasn't fun to actually play.
@@julianvaranel nah the combat is a huge part of Dragon age origins. if it wasn’t I would never have touched the game.
@@thegamingcaffe I do get where you're coming from. But, for many of us, the "fun" parts of the game were all those things I mentioned above. I suppose
we all define fun differently. Ironically, the very thing you stated about game play is the very reason I loved Hogwarts Legacy. I felt the interaction with the
other characters was a little lacking. What was there was good, I just wanted more. But I loved the combat and how it was implemented. And that game is
one of may most favorite recent gaming experiences. Another good example is "What Remains of Edith Finch". It offers very little in term of actual
game play, but the story is funny and sad, ironic and tragic. It speaks to the human condition in a very emotive way and what it means to be human. A game
can be more than a game. It can be more than mere entertainment. Some games can be art.
Had to turn this off when he said he barely played the others. That is literally the core issue of the game. Drastic tonal shift. Drastic dialogue shift. Lack of previous Bioware features. Disregard for previous entries.
Cant respect a review thats made in a vaccum of just this game alone.
Dragon Age is dark fantasy. To say the tone doesnt matter makes this review a fkn joke
@robertthornton7900 What?? You mean a review about a single game doesn't take into account other games?🤣 It only seems to be an issue with OG players. Perhaps this was more like a reboot. Kinda feels like it.
@@robertthornton7900 also opinions you know. Don't let them bother you👍
@@thegamingcaffe But you are the one answering to that opinion tho, you can but also... your own words.
@rojczan1399 that's right, engagement is great. But I couldn't imagine being heated about someone's opinion of a game🤣
Yep. It's like saying the new Saints Row is good without having ever played the previous Saints Row games.
I landed on 'it's fine' too. Running through to pick up the last 3 achievements second time round, it's fun enough to do. I have things I'd rather they'd done differently, where the tone of the dialogue and the events being portrayed don't really mesh too well and where I prefer things to be a bit grittier on the way to a resolution, but have also got to like a few of the companions (which I genuinely wasn't expecting). Thing I really would praise is the courage to step away from open world, and busy work content, and return to that loop of base to mission to base. Solid 7 out of 10 for me, where ME:A was a 6 and DA:I an 8.
@@zebedee5158 i agree with the transition on environment structure. I love having different zones to drop into rather than a massive world they would need to fill
Don't debase yourself. Even the title "non rage bate review" shows you're already going into this with an ulterior motive. Implying the negative reviews are just rage bait. I played the game start to finish, it's marvel. It's not awful from a gameplay point of view as an action game, the settings are really gorgeous and the music isn't bad. That's where the praise stops. It's not a true rpg, the combat is incredibly shallow and stops being fun by at minimum the halfway point of the game, very few of your decisions carry any real impact, the story has little to no bite, the only good companion is from a previous game, not being able to control your companions and them being immortal removes almost all tactics from the combat etc.... I can keep going. These games have always been atmosphere, character and story driven. It fails on all of those fronts, ESCPECIALLY when considering the series its attached too. I call it Marvel because it's pretty, flashy, and will entertain you for a bit if you don't think hard AT ALL and it will fall out of your memory as soon as you're done playing it. Anyone saying its 1/10 is wrong, but people calling it a masterpiece are doing so only for political reasons.
See and there's nothing wrong with that. If everything needs to be a 10/10, you'll always be disappointed, which is how a lot of people are at this point. I know how different this one is, but from a gameplay standpoint, it makes up for it for me. The previous entries gameplay was terrible. The story could be the story of the century, but if it's no fun to play, it's dead from the start. So I'm okay with this trade off.
Unfortunately the internet has already decided to hate this game and there can't be more than one opion on stuff like this online anymore...
Therefore this comment section is full of if you like this game you are dumb and if you haven played the previous games you are not allowed to enjoy this one.
I did nit like it very much, but am happy for anyone who did.
@@confuseray1230 exactly. If others are having fun, we should be happy for them.
Well, it seems like this somehow set off a bunch of people who played the last games. I grew up playing Dragons Age and beat all of them. I beat the Inquisition in high school and have been waiting a long time for this. I actually like how it has a lot of quality-of-life features. But with the bizarre writing, I can't help but feel like they could have made a new IP with these features. All in all, I think this is a fair review, man.
Yeah the writing doesn't assume the player will pick up on context and lacks subtlety which is a letdown. it didn't bug me too much as the moment to moment gameplay is a blast.
I have an answer for you. This is not DA4. This is a spinoff that has merged with DA4. This is why the game is such a different beast compared to the previous entries.
@ir6734, I suppose, but I actually really liked Inquisition. The cast and crew were pretty interesting, and the Solas twist at the end made me sad cause he was actually like my inquisitor's close friend. I wanted something a lot more like an Inquisition part 2, but Veil Guard just kinda forgot about it.
@@CrowningBrowning I quite liked Inquisition too. And Veilguard would be a proper sequel, if it wasn't for the fact that DA4 and DA Online were cancelled and then merged into one game. You can find info on it online and you can see it clearly when playing Veilguard. The game is designed as an online coop experience. Unfortunate, but that's the truth.
@@ir6734 ahhhh parallel universe. I like it
I heard some other reviewer say this game would be one of those ”Remember this?” And they’ll replay and find out it’s actually not that bad.
I still have gripes with it but I was hooked all the way really, with all but 1 certain companion and I think we all know who.
Yeah i could definitely see people picking it up a year from now, playing it and realizing like wow, this is a lot of fun. It's not what they expected, but it's a good time nonetheless.
@ I also forgive some aspects of the game as it was rebooted almost 3 times over the course of 10 years. First a single-player heist story, then an online multiplayer rpg and then finally this. I never expected the end product would be perfect after all that plus a lot of layoffs from Bioware as a company.
@BlitzAssault yeah a lot changes in 11 years
No, it won't.
I plan on trying this when the price drops thanks to all the groupthink haters.
Lolol probably black Friday deals then
Only played Inquisition, and loved it. So I was excited for this until the reviews and clips. Seems like the serious tone from previous games is lost. The difficulty has been tuned down so far, it is made for a younger, dumbed down, generation. Same for the subtlety and ambiguity, changed into black and white. The party, and protag looks less interesting than the previous games in dialogue and backstory. If all that we had united previously is lost, and replaced with this, Is the story worth coninuing? Should I still buy it? After 3 weeks, still on the fence.
I'd say find a way to rent it. It's a big departure which has really bothered some, but the actually gameplay is leaps and bounds better. So it kinda depends on what you're playing for. Or wait for a black Friday sale
@@therdj15 worth trying in a deep sale.
Ultra casual? simplified? no choices? hajahaj great review pal, game of the year no cap AAA win
Yeah it's been great🙌
So just like D4 then?
@@mgee9130nah the loot is good and game is fun Unlike D4. The writing? About as the same.
Many HATE this game specially long time Fans. You admitting that you did not enjoy the previous games says it all. This game is a SLAP to the face to us long time fans specially DA Origins. This game is trash compared to BG3. Them alienating their fanbase is a big no. You are the target audience for this game not long time Fans. Dragon Age has always been Dark and Gritty lol.
@bisugzzz i mean, no game compares to BG3🤣 That's the whole thing, this is for a whole new audience. It feels almost like a revamp of the series
@@thegamingcaffe so do you think BG3 will be a success if they did the same with veilguard? Yeah that's right. This game deserved all the hate it received.
No it's not, lol
@@TheNightquaker not what? 🤣
I thank you for being honest coming up and open about it despite knowing heat it will cause 😅 because I honestly lost faith on longtime channels I follow who grift on "Woke Bad" or "Choice don't matter" 🙏 even people like OG fans outright lie and change their view overnight like jayvee or BigDan as such and being constructive criticism of writing issues isn't top notch or have brighter theme.
@MrApoorvaSingh753 i think there is a sentiment these days of riding the negativity which does get views and engagement, so i can't be mad about that. But I wouldn't feel right knowing that I actually love iresGlad to know I've shown you some positivity🙌🎉
@@thegamingcaffe P.S I wanted to explain reason they lost faith on show don't tell and expectation from audience to be smart because a lot of criticism against 😂 Inquisition is Hinderland where people try to 100% first as level 5 go high level area and get obliterated 😂 and you can miss a lot of potential stories by not visiting War Table or picking other side where people hated Corypheus not involved where Calpernia mission Under Her Skin you can see how he thinks or feel about it or War Table mission Know Your Enemy of who Corypheus was before and people literally complained about so many collectibles or re-doing Requisition mission. 😂 I can add more stuff about it since unlike them I finished DAO + DLCs 11 times,DA2 3 times and DAI 5 times across PC & XBOX360/XBOX ONE so I know what I'm into 😂 and what I'm not.
damn that's devotion. I really like the revamp in world structure, art design, and tone. Humor during bad times kinda makes sense to keep yourself from freaking out
@@thegamingcaffe True! ❤ Haha thanks 😅 I come from OG Bioware era had played since KOTOR and BG2 they switch up flavors over the year has always been progressive which seems new for someone out of it. If you think that franchise is my dedication I wonder how you would feel for my Halo playthough and my comic & novel collections. 😂
@MrApoorvaSingh753 oh man I can't wait for the KOTOR remake! It's going to be incredible. I'm actually hopping into Mass Effect Andromeda next.
It is a great action rpg for a non Dragon Age Origins fans. Anyone who started with Inquisition will probably enjoy it more.
@arkeshn729 yeah it's so approachable which I love. I didn't care for the old ones due to the atrocious combat. So this was so refreshing
It's a passable game, but it's a terrible Dragon Age game. The questionable writing aside, most of the real angst stems from how disappointing this game is for long term fans.
"I wasnt looking for a deep RPG to sink 500 hours into" is a funny thing to say about a Dragon Age game, because that is exactly what long time fans want from a Dragon Age game. A deep RPG with consequential decisions that respects the decisions made in prior games. Veilguard fails to do any of that.
So expectations ruined this then?🤣 But I hear what you're saying. A precedent was set with the previous games that they abandoned
Do you think Dragon Age 2 is better than it?
good for another rpg game but horrible for a Dragon age game. its the 4th game not the first of its kind. killed the franchise with this one.
@@RicoMags-j5u that seems to be some of the consensus. It almost feels like a reboot of the series for a new audience.
@@thegamingcaffe exactly
@@RicoMags-j5unah
Dragon Age is not suppose to be super casual generic crap for Fortnite kids like yourself to enjoy. It should be BG type RPG.
Kinda funny cause this comment sounds like it was written by a Fortnite kid.
Go back to fortnite snowflake
How do you recognize a kid on the internet? They will call you a kid as an insult 😆
Says who? The devs get to decide that
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Yup. also had a blast with the game. played every entry beforehand. Probably my second favourite game of the year after Metaphor
Just tried out Metaphor. Those cutscenes are like watching an anime!
Some things in life are ubiquitous. Some people in life are contrarians.
The hate for this game is ubiquitous. And as someone who played it for ~20 hours, I’m in agreement with all the criticism.
You’re a contrarian.
And/or your pov has been distorted bc you didn’t spend as many hours as we have in prior dragon age games.
But in that case, it’s arguably an okay rpg. But it is axiomatically a bad dragon age.
Also it’s not “rage bait” to not want a game to condescendingly lecture you about how it’s wrong to misgender people.
@Overlyopinionated-wl8jq I appreciate how well constructed this response is. While you have valid points, game lecturing at you only takes up about 5% of the game. I may be in the minority with this game specifically, but I don't see it conducive to let that 5% ruin the other 95%.
Also the other Dragon Ages are on Gamepass, so I think I'll go jump back in and see what everyone wants this to be.
@@thegamingcaffe it may have been a good idea to play them before posting this review while dismissing what "OG players" want....Just sayin'
@@OBEYTHEPYRAMIDog players is usually just code for entitled losers who can't embrace change
Maybe, but OG players aren't more important than a new audience
I cannot get passed the new combat too much chaos and I am not forced to play as a carry over being able to play the way I would like. I was on my first playthrough as a pacifist support mage making my team do the best they can. And second playthrough being an evil rogue. And way the game is now you're forced to be a hero to be the carry and the companions are now back up dancers its to me boring and I cannot get past the start cause of the combat.
Still hope others enjoy it and get out of it what they like. But to me pass I tried not for me anymore sucks but eh that is life.
Yeah if its not for you, that's all good. That's the great part about gaming, there's a new game every week and something for everyone.
I guess your wife's boyfriend also loved Veilguard and you don't need to do extra push-ups as compensation
You good my dude?🤣
I'm also enjoying the combat of the game, and just like you im not as sensitive as the other people with the narrative and stuff since the story is still solid, the art style is subjective to individuals and your right the biggest haters are always the DAO hardliners, i mean most of the OG dragon age players hated DA2 and Inquisition as well so regardless of whatever new Dragon Age game comes out the OG fans will always hate it anyway. The only problem I really have with the game is I wish they had a new game plus cos when I optimized my build and party combinations the game got easy pretty quick but then again I played it in underdog difficulty and maybe nightmare will be much better.
Yeah a new game plus would be great! I could see them adding it down the road or a mod coming out for it. I'm glad you're enjoying it. I feel extra lucky I never went back to old ones before now because this has been really refreshing as something easy to jump into and have fun without expectations.
"People want it to be all dark because of Elden Ring". The moment i stopped. The DA franchise was here way before that game (A single game, not a franchise).
Doesn't matter who was here first. Elden Ring became one for the gritty RPG standards
@@thegamingcaffe The dude literally explained to you that Dragon Age was already dark and gritty before Dark Souls was even a thing and you still came back with a clueless "Nuh uh, it's coz of Elden Ring!"...
@@verde5738King’s field, Shadow tower and Eternal ring were made by Fromsoft could be you were too young to remember but Fromsoft have been making dark fantasy games before BioWare.
First non-rage Bait. My goty too , is só much things can dó the game I think finish 100hour. I play nightmare
Yeah i just started my 2nd playthrough. I'm at 82.6 hours total
Maybe if this wasn't called dragon age it would have been a good game
That's a pretty thin reason not to enjoy it for people
@thegamingcaffe the entire first game was about saving Fereldan. The current game that is supposed to continue this story shows in a Footnote how Fereldan (the entire first game) is destroyed making everything you did in the first game pointless.
Not mention destroying all the lore we learned from the previous games.
You clearly dont know or care about any of that, but for people like me dragon age was the first game i played where i felt like i could make choices in the world i was playing, not mention the other positive aspects of it.
@brionwreede9989 so this is an alternate univers3 then. Problem solved. Alternate timeline lol
@@thegamingcaffe yeah thats not a good reason to do this.
You cant use a legacy to make a game and expect people who liked those games to be happy with a game that has almost nothing to do with dragon age except for some memberberries.
Im not getting a game that continues that legacy either. So this isnt some alternate universe, its a cash grab for another lazy corperation that doesnt care about the IP.
@@brionwreede9989 but it's not just for OG fans. It's for new fans too
0:06 Destiny 2 is installed ?...Oof.
Yeah that's called PEAK right there
So what I got from this is "I dont care I had fun" which I mean fair enough, good for you man, but you cant say the game was good even in comparison to a game like inquisition that had nuance and well written characters that made you care about them, the game even warned you your companions could die if you didnt go do some busy work with them at what's supposed to be a point of no return, zero stakes at all, tonally all over the place, immersion breaking when the characters in one breath will say "the world is ending we need to act" and then follow it up with "but how does everyone feel first? lets go around the table" its got some cool looking combat for sure, but it doesnt make sense, everyone is suddenly a mage? mages were contentious in every dragon age game, I dont care if the warrior "doesnt use magic" the multiple bouncing shield that can be charged up before being thrown and the magically summoned scythe ARE MAGIC, whats the point of playing a mage if everyone is different flavours of mage? warrior focus abilities used to be badass and had unque effects, now its just, big scythe, temper tantrum with an elbow drop, or bouncy shield go BRRRRR, the most choice ive seen is if you chose to fight the dragon in minrathous or you choose to fight the dragon in treviso, and the differences are non existant, bioware got shit on for mass effect having 3 different colour endings, now we got 5 endings of "solas goes to the fade, angry or sad edition"
I guess I just want to have fun over anything else
@thegamingcaffe and that's fine, I found the combat repetitive and dull and the crpg elements greatly lacking, but if you enjoyed it my opinion cant and shouldnt take that away from you
@jesserebelo3583 true. Luckily for both of us, there are new games every week, including stalker 2 tomorrow. So there's always something to fill the void
I’m so glad you didn’t go down the “woke so bad” road haha.
Yes there’s some things to critique here but overall I’m having a great time
@@Donemessedup yeah there's so much more to this game. If everyone stops and focuses on the 2 or 3 instances of cringe or drop-off, we'll never enjoy anything.
Just started my 2nd playthrough as a mage!
@@thegamingcaffe I started as a mage and thinking about a second play as a warrior haha
@Donemessedup the warrior is great. I just started as a mage myself. The dropkick for the warrior is so satisfying
Bro saw the media drop the game and now wants to become the next shill. Honestly I genuinely hope you get your bag and it works out but if you actually fr believe what you say yikes.
You sound insane yikes
Whoa people like different things🤣
Bad dragon age game
Sorry you're not enjoying it
@@thegamingcaffe He was stating a fact.
@@verde5738 opinions are not facts kid.
You have some incredibly low standards if you genuinely believe that this game is Game of the Year material.
the over use of purple
That too?
I did say that there are things i like about this game and things i don't like about this game but to say that it is all crap when you haven't even played it is a disservice to gaming industry it self. When you only take someone elses word on things you miss out on that personal view. Why do they still dunk on this game? Well for some it gets those clicks on their videos and it makes them money. Only one that talks about this they them is the Quanari no one else.
@BlondeNordic Yeah it seems like the people with the biggest issue against it are OG fans who got super attached from the previous games and hate to see the departure. I agree, but also I think some people struggle to form their owns opinions when they've been listening to others for so long and using that to make decisions.
i dont agree, with what he is saying
Huh
@@thegamingcaffe that you dont need a game you can sink 500 hours into, i mean that quite specifically what dragon age is supposed to be. they have books in the game you read
No it's not 😂
I think Veilguard is a great Dragon age game and I played DAO and DAI and never played DA2.
@phantombigboss8429 the gameplay is the best part for me.
@phantombigboss8429 what class did you run?
@@thegamingcaffe yea the gameplay is what got me hooked. Im doing a Rogue playthrough on Nightmare difficulty.
How is the nightmare difficultly? Soulslike level of hard?
@@thegamingcaffe it varies if you do side quests or go off the beaten path you’ll encounter stronger mobs. It makes the boss fights more interesting and it seems they are handled pretty well. I’m doing a nercotic duelist build.
this guys just said "chef's kiss".. cringe ... gross... bye.
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