There are very few of your videos I haven't watched, and a common theme is the filler gauge at the end of the cylinder in-line with the barrel. Quite a while ago, it occurred to me that a simple idea to nullify this possible danger point is a spirit bottle top or similar that would fit over the moderator with a penny glued to the inside of the top. Two holes drilled through the sides of the top to house strong elastic or cord retained on any appropriate site, i.e.scope mount. Just an idea, Michael.
@@DiegoRomer0 I seriously doubt if I hit you in the face with 20 gold flights you'll try to pull your gun! No you will be in severe pain and will be trying to get somewhere. You're going to need those gold flights surgically removed from your face!
@@DiegoRomer0 lmfao if you can see or move after those rounds enter your body. You think just bc you have a real gun that it’ll help but if those pellets get stuck in your forearm how you finna shoot🤡and I’m talking .177 not no petty bbs
I own a busy pest control company. For indoor use we use the 1377 as it can be controlled to not destroy the fixtures and fittings within an expensive hotel. We also use the SMK pp700 pistols for small pests outside in yards and sometimes in cellars with lasers attached. We use crosman 2240s for roofspaces where we find pigeons and rats. We use the Alecto for inside premises due to its power differences. So lower power for rats inside a kitchen where pellets can rebound. We use rifles such as the Kral np02 or FX verminators for rats around farms. We have many other set ups as well. My advice is that one pistol will never do all, choose the best pistol or rifle for the job and Always, plan your jobs beforehand for any pest controlling. Good luck Thanks AAR great reviews again, let me know if you want any more comments from a pest control perspective Vital group
With CO2, the bigger the calibre, the greater the efficiency. This is because CO2 has a fixed pressure at a given temperature, so the only way to extract more force from it is to increase the bore diameter ( force equals pressure times surface area). I have no idea why replica pistols, especially revolvers, aren't available in .22, since the larger calibre would produce 50% more power with no other changes to the gun. I made a .22 barrel insert for my old S&W 586 CO2 revolver and gained about 40% extra muzzle energy with no other changes to the gun.
@@3dtom Hi, it was fairly simple but does require a lathe. First remove the original barrel liner which is "stretched" between the frame and the outer barrel at the muzzle. I cut a 7/32 (0.21875") ID tube to the same length as the 4.5 mm barrel insert and threaded both ends on the outside diameter to match the original barrel liner. I believe the pitch is M10 fine (i.e. 10 mm x 1 mm pitch). Mine was just a smoothbore tube but a length of old .22 airgun barrel would have been much better. The OD has to be machined down to 10 mm. The velocity drops slightly compared to the 4.5 mm barrel but the 5.5 mm pellet is almost twice as heavy, and energy goes up at least 40%.
Steyr M9 A1 4.5mm steel BB is a beast tbh at 3.3 joules and 450 fps it dispatches snakes easily. Great channel Andy, watch it religiously. All the best from Portugal
Take a look at the Umarex T4E CO2 pistols. A fair bit more punch than what you had on the table, and a much wider range of ammo can be used, from paintballs, hard rubber balls, & even up to steel ball bearings for close range. Available in .43, .50, & .68 cal Available in the UK, even delivered to your door as classed as paintball markers, but not allowed at most paintball places as way too powerful! These are marketed as “less than lethal” home protection in many countries!
Brilliant job Andy! Loved the 'Towel' analogy!!!!!!!!!! We are really fortunate to have such a fantastic range of CO2 pistols to choose from - especially as their low power levels allow them to be used in relatively small spaces in these restrictive times. Their true value and purpose is pure shooting enjoyment. Shooting CO2 pistols at any living thing, is nothing short of reckless and irresponsible. Great that you expressed this, but it would be ideal if all of the manufacturers printed this fact clearly on the packaging. Roll on next Friday matey!
In the States a Daisy 415 puts out steel .177 bb's at 470 fps as measured on my chronograph. $ 30.00 US . Not legal in Canada or the UK. Bummer for you guys.
I had a 22 caliber CO2 pistol. It was a Berretta look-alike. I don't recall if it was Daisey or Crossman. .it had a six round magazine. I caught a big rat on a glue board in a warehouse. I shot the rat with a Crossman domed pellet. The pellet went through the rat, through the glue board, hit the concrete floor, bounced up and through one side of a cardboard box and down the other end of the warehouse. I was highly impressed with the power and penetration I got with a fresh CO2 cartridge and the 22 caliber pellet. Unfortunately the gun didn't hold up well and leaked gas after a few months.
Long Range accuracy doesn’t matter in self defense situations. Self defense situations are pretty much always close quarter situations happening within a range of 1 to 2 meters. A airgun that blasts completely through a can within 5 to 6 meters does make the needed damage and penetrates skin and flesh. A airgun revolver like a single action army has even more power. Diabolos can do severe damage. Especially hollow point ones.
Anybody who buy's Co2 replica for power are clearly deluded, the replica is about the overall experience, history & realism & collectability, power should not even enter the equation as far as i'm concerned, great review as ever
I have known several people Who have saved their lives in situations by using or merely brandishing a Co2 pistol. Shot placement. Energy . And shot capacity . I have found that the Daisy 426 , 415, and 5170 are best for this sort of thing ; the Crosman Vigilante , Crosman SNR , and GAMO P25 also have worked wonders . I am from Texas ( Where Fire Arms are extensions of Our Cultural Freedom) but Air Guns are still respected. and used for self defense by people of all walks of life due to personal restrictions or restricted areas where fire arms are not allowed ; then there are those Who simply do not like fire arms but want “ Something” for protection . Many of My friends and relatives keep a GAMO Swarm .22 caliber for home defense and a Co2 pistol upon their person when taking a walk in the park.
This!!! He doesn't mention in the video how harmful pointed pellets can be and they also have limits in the UK on how strong a C02 gun can be so the models we get here in the US are usually a lot more powerful.
@@elnyoutube123 : INDEED! Just look up the number of people that have been killed with Airguns in the US ; or the number of deer that have been poached by them
I hope you read these. I did something that may have made my pellet pistol possibly deadly. That i would like to see you test and experiment with. I took gamo fast flight penetrator pellets the red ones and drilled a small hole through the back of them in order to push out the metal point inside of the plastic sleeve. Then took a dremmel and grinded down the back of the metal point in order to make it shorter and then put the metal point back inside the plastic sleeve by simply pressing them in with pliers. This makes the pellets able to fit in my pellet pistol without any jamming and i am able to shoot throught multiple layers of cloth from a few yards away and straight through ply wood
In my personal experience a co2 pistol actually works great for small garden snakes. They're usually lighter than the real thing so you can easily carry your replica as well as your self defense pistol and yeah when you're right on top of them you can get pretty easy headshots.
Nice review as usual. I would have mentioned the Artemis CP2 (co2 powered, pellets) which you reviewed in the past since it achieves 7.5 Joules of energy and it has good accuracy for a co2 pistol.
Very professional and TV quality reviews. Great presentation skills and presence in videos. I’ve been watching for a few months now. You could have your own TV show, something like How 2 that aired in the 90s. If I were a TV producer, I’d want you to present my shows. You also remind me of a few cool famous people. A bit of Bricktop from Snatch, Clint Eastwood and when you talk Maths, like FPS, joules, foot pounds, you remind me a little of Carole Vorderman. The way in which you construct and enunciate your sentences. Even if I wasn’t interested in Air Guns, I’d find your reviews very entertaining, educational and interesting. Thank you for your reviews. Do you have Twitter?
when ur life is seriously at risk and you can only buy a c02 pistol in ur country, who cares about the law. they won't even care to show up for my funeral.
Excellent comparisons, and it really does show you need to experiment to find the sweet spot for each replica. I'd be interested in an accuracy test, especially for the plastic blaster BBs, as the only thing putting me off buying BB replicas is the ricochet risk, so blasters or dust devils would be my choice _if_ they are accurate enough. I imagine those plastic BBs could go a bit squirly at higher fps, so would love to see some target work.
@@monterodelgado2577 sorry for the late reply. I haven’t got one yet - I sort of forgot about it. I think that powerful co2 pistols aren’t really a thing. I was gonna go for a glock 17 gen 4 as they look really fun and are relatively powerful (for a co2 blowback). Good luck with whatever you decide and I’m sorry that I can’t be of more use.
Way more important are the questions about: 1. The best trajectory in the available range (5-10 meters for an appartment and a bit more for a house) 2. Resistance to the wind and other factors (for shooting outside). 3. Noise level for shooting inside. 4. Ricochet and ability to damage walls and stuff inside.
Andy's correct about power. Might be best to think of it as applied energy (in ft/lbs or joules, pick your unit). As a retired Earth science teacher, if you need proof, consider this: in classical mechanics, kinetic energy (KE) is equal to half of an object's mass (1/2*m) multiplied by the velocity squared. For example, if a an object with a mass of 10 kg (m = 10 kg) is moving at a velocity of 5 meters per second (v = 5 m/s), the kinetic energy is equal to 125 Joules, or (1/2 * 10 kg) * 5 m/s2. Isn't math beautiful?
Great informative video again there Andy As we are talking about power, the Crosman 2240 is a powerhouse for a co2 pistol, at around 5.5ftlbs and a good close quarters (10metre) vermin gun and cheap at £80 as well and built like a tank. I would recommend the crosman 1377 and 1322 multipumps over the Strikepoint but i may be biased as i own both but they are both more powerful than the Strikepoint and they are unbelievably customisable and modifiable to the shooters tastes. The Strikepoint has a bit too much plastic or ballistic polymer as they like to refer to it these days but then again i own the Webley Alecto MK3 and the nearly the whole of the frame is ballistic polymer and is powerful at 5.7ftlbs. I own the Hatsan Supercharger. 177 and it runs at 5.6ftlbs which is more powerful than the Weirauch HW45, and the HW45 is more than double the price of the Hatsan Supercharger as well. All the best from lancashire.
The whip analogy I think falls off a bit when you consider that the piece of fabric cracking at the speed of sound will not only sting but cut you like a razor
Does ANYONE know why air rifles are usually just under the 12ft lb legal limit, but practically all air pistols are no where near the legal limit of 6ft lb? Thanks.
I have several air pistols, even at 5.5 ft lb none are particularly powerful. The nice looking replicas, at around 3ft lb couldn’t blow the skin off a rice pudding, as such don’t really serve any practical purpose.... in a home defence situation, of all the air or CO2 pistols I own, the Umarex HDR50 7.5 joules that fires 50 cal steel balls would be my first choice for a close quarters encounter. Whilst not strictly a pellet gun, or BB gun it has more punch than a weedy .177 replica. How about a review of the HDR 50 and the rest of the T4E range from Umarex?
Indeed, I think this is what the people sending messages to Andy were referring to. Any home invader would think twice about continuing an attack if they were hit by one of these co2 guns using the various hard projectiles you can use. Especially good in the UK as you can be pretty sure an attacker won’t have a real firearm, and if they do then what have you got to lose? Ask the attacker to wait an hour or two for the cops to show up? UK homes aren’t very big so being hit 6/8 metres away will make them more than say “ouch”! They have quick release co2 systems so you can have it ready in seconds with a fresh co2 cartridge for maximum impact. As they are sold as paint ball markers you can even order online and have delivered through the post, no going down the RFD shop to collect. Surprising really considering they are not allowed at most paintball places as they are far too powerful to be allowed in the games!
@@andywing8330 Makes me laugh all the UK laws for guns, specifically airguns. So if you want something with a little more kick, don't look for air pistol, look for paint ball markers. 😂😂😂. Got the Umarex HDR 50 cal Revolver. Waiting for the HDS 68 Shotgun to be back in stock. 👍😊👍
i have a .177 Ruger Blackhawk that is "lethal" up to 1800 feet, ive shot threw thin steel and killed small game with it, i think this is also a great non gun for self defense option even though its break barrel.. i cant own a gun tho lol im 16
Thank you, Sir. I enjoyed the tour of guns most in this video. The stream of numbers was a little hard to deal with because, after a few guns and projectiles, the numbers roll over faster than I can retain. You made your point about the inverse relationship of speed and power, but the point will be more intuitive if you show graphs. The graphics would ease the work on my brain for buffering numbers and making comparisons. Your channel is very helpful to me and I'm very glad for your contributions.
.68 cal 12grams plastic and steel ball 30joul co2 Paintball pistol( home defense job done) Maybe you should do some videos on these they are air powered. Just to add thank you for all your videos they are fun and informative.
That Beretta has a nice long barrel, hence the better power and accuracy....I love my umarex 92 and the colt 1911. They are the two most accurate co2s I own.
Spot on review of these amazing pistols, Length of barrel and weight of pellets along with non blowback contributes significantly to the overall performance of the pistol. I have the Barra Schofield and the Colt Peacemaker along with the Remington 1875 which are all Co2 and fire pellets from the rear of the pistol. Having a rifled barrel can also increase the accuracy of the pistol.
Daisy Powerline Model 008 - I recently purchased a Model 008, CO2 Pistol. It is leaking when I place a CO2 in the pistol handle. I can not find any information on the pistol. Like a O-Ring kit or how to fix the leak. Thoughts?
ASG Steyr M9-A1 The fun of something that is powerful is being able to hit targets that are far away with force and to shoot straight through things and to see sparks and smoke when shooting at rocks. Steyr M9-A1 handle this, in addition, it is ergonomically superior, stylish to look at, small and extremely well made. I rejected and dismissed all of them on the table when I bought two M9-A1.
I looked around for the ultimate CO2 pistol, all things considered: PX4 Storm (pellet) is the best. ~2.5ft-lbs / 3 joules / 420+fps, 8+8 dualmag with blowback and double/single action trigger. With a fresh cartridge (that can be housed before loading with just a simple twist of the pistol butt clasp) it has a lovely powerful stinging kick to it. Definately recommended. Here in the UK if you want power without a FAC, get a crossbow, good ones are very cheap and >90ft-lbs!
Look for paint ball markers mate. Got more kick, lots of ammo types. And best of all they can be delivered straight to your house. Example the Umarex HDR 50 cal Revolver or the HDR 50 cal pistol.
You mention blowback twice. I can't find any BB mechanism is any of the pistols that I have disassembled. How does BB work? Is there any way to modify a blowback pistol to disable the BB and thus save CO2?
If the SHTF, you can't even hunt with them..? So, what is the most portable rifle might be the question...? Why are these Pistols even a thing? If they are so innaccurate are they any use for target shooting?
Thanks for the TECHNICAL explanation of speed versus power. One thing that should be addressed for those concerned about the PRACTICAL aspect is the ability of specific cloth/fur to prevent/reflect the objects [pellets/steel-BBs/plastic-BBs] at specified jouled guns.
Hello, I live in Europe and in rural areas we often have stray dogs that might pose a threat to a hiker. I am looking to purchase an airgun pistol for defense, in case of such a threat, but not to kill the animal! Preferably to make it go away by the pain of the pellets. Would that be a good choice?
hi i plan on buying a airgun for me and my brother do you recommend one with bbs or pellets . i read that bbs can damage the barrel or gun easier then pellets
01:46 I have to disagree. I own a kwc 24/7 (120 m/s = 390 FPS at 2,5 joules) Co2 replica which shots 4,5mm steel BBs. I had done domestic hunting with that pistol, that is to say, killed a few birds with it, at a distance of 2 meters and 5 meters. I've made some tests pre warming the magazine (do it at your own risk, it can explode) and the increse of power is noticeable. The sound is more explosive, you can't see the BB traveling and it can harm at more distance. I've tested on pork meat covered on piece of jeans pants and it goes through. it may not kill but on a human it would cause pain, and bleeding giving you the time to run away or do another maneuver.
I think he is trying to get people not to use these on other people, but he's making people think that these are harmless. These are all capable of killing people, and they often do. Like you said with the flesh medium, I have seen an Airsoft go through a tin of corned beef at close range. It is totally true that people do not understand the numbers.
hi andy do you think you can bring a hatsan sorty uk leagal 6ftlb if it exists in the uk i will also buy one and dress it up to look like an mp5k just for fun what do you think
What about the 80 to almost 90 FPE they are getting from the Huben GK1, would you consider that enough for a self defense situation? While it isn't gonna be the optimal choice I think it would work for someone if need be.
a big figure is the length of the barrel. @ 100 psi a bb will travel faster out of a 9'' barrel than a 1'' barrel, but then decreases speed with friction as length continue correct?
It's strange that your saying you cannot use the Glock 17 gen 4 for pest control as I shot through and shattered a jam jar and also a kitchen tile which completely split in half. Mind you once it reaches the 3rd magazine the gas runs out.
Yes CO2 guns can put out decent amount of power to dispatch pests. Two important factors are barrel volume and air (or CO2) pressure. Since CO2 pressure is fixed at 800 psi, you need to make barrel volume large (which means caliber is large). That way CO2 guns can certainly put out 20, 30 or even 40 FPE, enough to kill small pests and be menacing enough to deter someone.
Grain wt. Is what give you fpe , the 1911 45 only travel at 980 gps but has a lot of knock down power . So a fat heavy bullet is the power you need and a heavy bullet is better in high wind
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There are very few of your videos I haven't watched, and a common theme is the filler gauge at the end of the cylinder in-line with the barrel. Quite a while ago, it occurred to me that a simple idea to nullify this possible danger point is a spirit bottle top or similar that would fit over the moderator with a penny glued to the inside of the top. Two holes drilled through the sides of the top to house strong elastic or cord retained on any appropriate site, i.e.scope mount. Just an idea, Michael.
I would say that anyone getting hit in the face with any of those close range is going to have a bad day.
Your gonna have a worse day if you pull that little boy stunt on someone with a real gun
@@DiegoRomer0 I seriously doubt if I hit you in the face with 20 gold flights you'll try to pull your gun! No you will be in severe pain and will be trying to get somewhere. You're going to need those gold flights surgically removed from your face!
@@DiegoRomer0 lmfao if you can see or move after those rounds enter your body. You think just bc you have a real gun that it’ll help but if those pellets get stuck in your forearm how you finna shoot🤡and I’m talking .177 not no petty bbs
@@toxicity6629 yeah, these pellets can really mess you up if used correctly.
Exactly!!
I get 90’s tv vibes from your videos, your presenting style is awesome.
I own a busy pest control company. For indoor use we use the 1377 as it can be controlled to not destroy the fixtures and fittings within an expensive hotel.
We also use the SMK pp700 pistols for small pests outside in yards and sometimes in cellars with lasers attached.
We use crosman 2240s for roofspaces where we find pigeons and rats.
We use the Alecto for inside premises due to its power differences. So lower power for rats inside a kitchen where pellets can rebound.
We use rifles such as the Kral np02 or FX verminators for rats around farms.
We have many other set ups as well. My advice is that one pistol will never do all, choose the best pistol or rifle for the job and Always, plan your jobs beforehand for any pest controlling. Good luck
Thanks AAR great reviews again, let me know if you want any more comments from a pest control perspective
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You need to iron your back ground.
Haha I didn't notice that lol, what a trip! :D
Great observation/comment. Who da thought! 😂
With CO2, the bigger the calibre, the greater the efficiency. This is because CO2 has a fixed pressure at a given temperature, so the only way to extract more force from it is to increase the bore diameter ( force equals pressure times surface area). I have no idea why replica pistols, especially revolvers, aren't available in .22, since the larger calibre would produce 50% more power with no other changes to the gun. I made a .22 barrel insert for my old S&W 586 CO2 revolver and gained about 40% extra muzzle energy with no other changes to the gun.
>I made a .22 barrel insert for my old S&W 586 CO2 revolver
How did you go about doing that? I might be interested in replicating what you've done.
@@3dtom Hi, it was fairly simple but does require a lathe. First remove the original barrel liner which is "stretched" between the frame and the outer barrel at the muzzle. I cut a 7/32 (0.21875") ID tube to the same length as the 4.5 mm barrel insert and threaded both ends on the outside diameter to match the original barrel liner. I believe the pitch is M10 fine (i.e. 10 mm x 1 mm pitch). Mine was just a smoothbore tube but a length of old .22 airgun barrel would have been much better. The OD has to be machined down to 10 mm. The velocity drops slightly compared to the 4.5 mm barrel but the 5.5 mm pellet is almost twice as heavy, and energy goes up at least 40%.
@@3dtom Of course you will also have to bore out the magazines with a 7/32 drill!
@@Ijusthopeitsquick Thanks for all the helpful info! I'm definitely going to try this out.
How did you measure the extra muzzle energy?
You can get the Umarex HDR 50 cal Revolver in the UK,
7.5 joules.
Runs on co2 capsules.
yes, but it is not a pellet or bb loaded, it's T4E model, caliber .50
@@martins.7021 Then the title should be changed to Co2 BB and pellet pistol power.
The T4E is a pistol and it runs on Co2.
Steyr M9 A1 4.5mm steel BB is a beast tbh at 3.3 joules and 450 fps it dispatches snakes easily.
Great channel Andy, watch it religiously.
All the best from Portugal
Your pistol reviews are always enjoyable! Thanks again Professor Andy!
Take a look at the Umarex T4E CO2 pistols. A fair bit more punch than what you had on the table, and a much wider range of ammo can be used, from paintballs, hard rubber balls, & even up to steel ball bearings for close range. Available in .43, .50, & .68 cal
Available in the UK, even delivered to your door as classed as paintball markers, but not allowed at most paintball places as way too powerful!
These are marketed as “less than lethal” home protection in many countries!
I’d like to see a video on the t4e too, I think the TPM1 would go with his collection quite nicely
@@alex-yy9tk there is a few videos on RUclips.
Also videos on how to tune up their power. 👍
Brilliant job Andy!
Loved the 'Towel' analogy!!!!!!!!!!
We are really fortunate to have such a fantastic range of CO2 pistols to choose from - especially as their low power levels allow them to be used in relatively small spaces in these restrictive times.
Their true value and purpose is pure shooting enjoyment.
Shooting CO2 pistols at any living thing, is nothing short of reckless and irresponsible. Great that you expressed this, but it would be ideal if all of the manufacturers printed this fact clearly on the packaging.
Roll on next Friday matey!
In the States a Daisy 415 puts out steel .177 bb's at 470 fps as measured on my chronograph. $ 30.00 US . Not legal in Canada or the UK. Bummer for you guys.
I had a 22 caliber CO2 pistol.
It was a Berretta look-alike.
I don't recall if it was Daisey or Crossman. .it had a six round magazine.
I caught a big rat on a glue board in a warehouse. I shot the rat with a Crossman domed pellet.
The pellet went through the rat, through the glue board, hit the concrete floor, bounced up and through one side of a cardboard box and down the other end of the warehouse.
I was highly impressed with the power and penetration I got with a fresh CO2 cartridge and the 22 caliber pellet. Unfortunately the gun didn't hold up well and leaked gas after a few months.
wich pistol?
@@juan180p Sorry, i don't recall the maker. It was a berretta 92 look-alike.
Yea you can't leave them charged breaks the seal after a while
Thats why CO2 sucks
Sound more like a 22rimfire if it t went through the a rat and a wooden board 😂@@johnndavis7647
Although revolvers don't lose air in a blow back you have to factor in the CO2 which will be lost in the cylinder/barrel gap.
Seeing as the gas is already out of the cartridge the losses from poor sealage would only affect projectile nrg.
Long Range accuracy doesn’t matter in self defense situations. Self defense situations are pretty much always close quarter situations happening within a range of 1 to 2 meters.
A airgun that blasts completely through a can within 5 to 6 meters does make the needed damage and penetrates skin and flesh.
A airgun revolver like a single action army has even more power. Diabolos can do severe damage. Especially hollow point ones.
Correct
Co2 that give out more than 2 joules have be licensed in N.IRELAND,I can't even buy a pump old daisy .177
Anybody who buy's Co2 replica for power are clearly deluded, the replica is about the overall experience, history & realism & collectability, power should not even enter the equation as far as i'm concerned, great review as ever
I have known several people Who have saved their lives in situations by using or merely brandishing a Co2 pistol. Shot placement. Energy . And shot capacity . I have found that the Daisy 426 , 415, and 5170 are best for this sort of thing ; the Crosman Vigilante , Crosman SNR , and GAMO P25 also have worked wonders . I am from Texas ( Where Fire Arms are extensions of Our Cultural Freedom) but Air Guns are still respected. and used for self defense by people of all walks of life due to personal restrictions or restricted areas where fire arms are not allowed ; then there are those Who simply do not like fire arms but want “ Something” for protection . Many of My friends and relatives keep a GAMO Swarm .22 caliber for home defense and a Co2 pistol upon their person when taking a walk in the park.
This!!! He doesn't mention in the video how harmful pointed pellets can be and they also have limits in the UK on how strong a C02 gun can be so the models we get here in the US are usually a lot more powerful.
@@elnyoutube123 : INDEED! Just look up the number of people that have been killed with Airguns in the US ; or the number of deer that have been poached by them
I hope you read these. I did something that may have made my pellet pistol possibly deadly. That i would like to see you test and experiment with. I took gamo fast flight penetrator pellets the red ones and drilled a small hole through the back of them in order to push out the metal point inside of the plastic sleeve. Then took a dremmel and grinded down the back of the metal point in order to make it shorter and then put the metal point back inside the plastic sleeve by simply pressing them in with pliers. This makes the pellets able to fit in my pellet pistol without any jamming and i am able to shoot throught multiple layers of cloth from a few yards away and straight through ply wood
That ammo is amazing and works on small pests quite well..
In my personal experience a co2 pistol actually works great for small garden snakes. They're usually lighter than the real thing so you can easily carry your replica as well as your self defense pistol and yeah when you're right on top of them you can get pretty easy headshots.
Why would you shoot garden snakes? They’re not pests
Nobody wants snakes especially with pets around. Kill those damn things!
So glad I live in the USA… even our air guns have more freedom.. for now at least..
Exactly 😆 these numbers hes doing are WAY less..
Nice review as usual. I would have mentioned the Artemis CP2 (co2 powered, pellets) which you reviewed in the past since it achieves 7.5 Joules of energy and it has good accuracy for a co2 pistol.
It's a lovely gun for the price. And it comes with a silencer and a carbine conversion kit in the box.
Very professional and TV quality reviews. Great presentation skills and presence in videos. I’ve been watching for a few months now. You could have your own TV show, something like How 2 that aired in the 90s. If I were a TV producer, I’d want you to present my shows. You also remind me of a few cool famous people. A bit of Bricktop from Snatch, Clint Eastwood and when you talk Maths, like FPS, joules, foot pounds, you remind me a little of Carole Vorderman. The way in which you construct and enunciate your sentences. Even if I wasn’t interested in Air Guns, I’d find your reviews very entertaining, educational and interesting. Thank you for your reviews. Do you have Twitter?
This is an "It".
Got know clue what he is babbling about.
when ur life is seriously at risk and you can only buy a c02 pistol in ur country, who cares about the law. they won't even care to show up for my funeral.
You could have tried the SMK CP1 co2 pistol, 9 shot magazine , over 5ftlb of power and accurate. It’s also available for £110.
The next time I tune in.. I fully expect you to explain the meaning of life. You are rather thorough! Love it!
Excellent comparisons, and it really does show you need to experiment to find the sweet spot for each replica. I'd be interested in an accuracy test, especially for the plastic blaster BBs, as the only thing putting me off buying BB replicas is the ricochet risk, so blasters or dust devils would be my choice _if_ they are accurate enough. I imagine those plastic BBs could go a bit squirly at higher fps, so would love to see some target work.
I want to buy my first blowback co2 pistol but am not sure what to go for. The most important thing is for it to be powerful. Any recommendations?
Same here.
Have you purchased one yet?
I'm looking at the gamo p25
@@monterodelgado2577 sorry for the late reply. I haven’t got one yet - I sort of forgot about it. I think that powerful co2 pistols aren’t really a thing. I was gonna go for a glock 17 gen 4 as they look really fun and are relatively powerful (for a co2 blowback). Good luck with whatever you decide and I’m sorry that I can’t be of more use.
Way more important are the questions about:
1. The best trajectory in the available range (5-10 meters for an appartment and a bit more for a house)
2. Resistance to the wind and other factors (for shooting outside).
3. Noise level for shooting inside.
4. Ricochet and ability to damage walls and stuff inside.
Andy's correct about power. Might be best to think of it as applied energy (in ft/lbs or joules, pick your unit). As a retired Earth science teacher, if you need proof, consider this: in classical mechanics, kinetic energy (KE) is equal to half of an object's mass (1/2*m) multiplied by the velocity squared. For example, if a an object with a mass of 10 kg (m = 10 kg) is moving at a velocity of 5 meters per second (v = 5 m/s), the kinetic energy is equal to 125 Joules, or (1/2 * 10 kg) * 5 m/s2. Isn't math beautiful?
Did I hear right .UK law restrict us to 6 ,4 1bs. What gun is that ?
This made me reflect on my choices. Awesome video
Great informative video again there Andy As we are talking about power, the Crosman 2240 is a powerhouse for a co2 pistol, at around 5.5ftlbs and a good close quarters (10metre) vermin gun and cheap at £80 as well and built like a tank. I would recommend the crosman 1377 and 1322 multipumps over the Strikepoint but i may be biased as i own both but they are both more powerful than the Strikepoint and they are unbelievably customisable and modifiable to the shooters tastes. The Strikepoint has a bit too much plastic or ballistic polymer as they like to refer to it these days but then again i own the Webley Alecto MK3 and the nearly the whole of the frame is ballistic polymer and is powerful at 5.7ftlbs. I own the Hatsan Supercharger. 177 and it runs at 5.6ftlbs which is more powerful than the Weirauch HW45, and the HW45 is more than double the price of the Hatsan Supercharger as well. All the best from lancashire.
I didn't know those were legal in the UK. Do they make you get some kind of license or something?
The whip analogy I think falls off a bit when you consider that the piece of fabric cracking at the speed of sound will not only sting but cut you like a razor
Greetings from across the pond in Tennessee. Another good one Andy I always enjoy your reviews. Hope all is well there keep them coming.
Does ANYONE know why air rifles are usually just under the 12ft lb legal limit, but practically all air pistols are no where near the legal limit of 6ft lb?
Thanks.
I have several air pistols, even at 5.5 ft lb none are particularly powerful. The nice looking replicas, at around 3ft lb couldn’t blow the skin off a rice pudding, as such don’t really serve any practical purpose.... in a home defence situation, of all the air or CO2 pistols I own, the Umarex HDR50 7.5 joules that fires 50 cal steel balls would be my first choice for a close quarters encounter. Whilst not strictly a pellet gun, or BB gun it has more punch than a weedy .177 replica. How about a review of the HDR 50 and the rest of the T4E range from Umarex?
Indeed, I think this is what the people sending messages to Andy were referring to. Any home invader would think twice about continuing an attack if they were hit by one of these co2 guns using the various hard projectiles you can use. Especially good in the UK as you can be pretty sure an attacker won’t have a real firearm, and if they do then what have you got to lose? Ask the attacker to wait an hour or two for the cops to show up?
UK homes aren’t very big so being hit 6/8 metres away will make them more than say “ouch”! They have quick release co2 systems so you can have it ready in seconds with a fresh co2 cartridge for maximum impact. As they are sold as paint ball markers you can even order online and have delivered through the post, no going down the RFD shop to collect. Surprising really considering they are not allowed at most paintball places as they are far too powerful to be allowed in the games!
@@andywing8330 Makes me laugh all the UK laws for guns, specifically airguns. So if you want something with a little more kick, don't look for air pistol, look for paint ball markers. 😂😂😂.
Got the Umarex HDR 50 cal Revolver.
Waiting for the HDS 68 Shotgun to be back in stock. 👍😊👍
Umarex hdr50
i have a .177 Ruger Blackhawk that is "lethal" up to 1800 feet, ive shot threw thin steel and killed small game with it, i think this is also a great non gun for self defense option even though its break barrel.. i cant own a gun tho lol im 16
I would use a pellet air rifle for self defense.
Hi how long co2 can stay inside of the pistol some people say no more than 24 hours thanks Mr Alves
You could have tried out the Gamo P-430 BB/pellet CO2 pistol. It has a 495 FPS velocity with alloy pellets.
Thank you, Sir. I enjoyed the tour of guns most in this video. The stream of numbers was a little hard to deal with because, after a few guns and projectiles, the numbers roll over faster than I can retain. You made your point about the inverse relationship of speed and power, but the point will be more intuitive if you show graphs. The graphics would ease the work on my brain for buffering numbers and making comparisons.
Your channel is very helpful to me and I'm very glad for your contributions.
What are they used for ?
.68 cal 12grams plastic and steel ball 30joul co2 Paintball pistol( home defense job done) Maybe you should do some videos on these they are air powered. Just to add thank you for all your videos they are fun and informative.
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If aimed in the neck area, it should certainly stun the aggressor enough to take control of the situation.
That Beretta has a nice long barrel, hence the better power and accuracy....I love my umarex 92 and the colt 1911. They are the two most accurate co2s I own.
This guy has the best analogies
Crosman 1322. Try it with the 16.7 grain fast flight penetrators.
Never heard of that Strike Point gun before. Looks interesting (and cheap!). Great video as always Andy!
I love your British manner of speaking!
Spot on review of these amazing pistols,
Length of barrel and weight of pellets along with non blowback contributes significantly to the overall performance of the pistol.
I have the Barra Schofield and the Colt Peacemaker along with the Remington 1875 which are all Co2 and fire pellets from the rear of the pistol.
Having a rifled barrel can also increase the accuracy of the pistol.
Best reviews on you tube👍
Easy.before shootin carry co2 canisters in your pocket.leave time gap intervals while shooting.you will get serious speed enhance ment for sure.
Where is the airguns for self defense video? I had seen it and loved the tests but I can't find it now. I love the videos Andy puts out.
Love how you deliver. Feel like I'm watching the discovery channel!
Daisy Powerline Model 008 - I recently purchased a Model 008, CO2 Pistol. It is leaking when I place a CO2 in the pistol handle. I can not find any information on the pistol. Like a O-Ring kit or how to fix the leak. Thoughts?
You have a good voice for children's TV..
ASG Steyr M9-A1 The fun of something that is powerful is being able to hit targets that are far away with force and to shoot straight through things and to see sparks and smoke when shooting at rocks.
Steyr M9-A1 handle this, in addition, it is ergonomically superior, stylish to look at, small and extremely well made.
I rejected and dismissed all of them on the table when I bought two M9-A1.
I looked around for the ultimate CO2 pistol, all things considered: PX4 Storm (pellet) is the best. ~2.5ft-lbs / 3 joules / 420+fps, 8+8 dualmag with blowback and double/single action trigger.
With a fresh cartridge (that can be housed before loading with just a simple twist of the pistol butt clasp) it has a lovely powerful stinging kick to it.
Definately recommended.
Here in the UK if you want power without a FAC, get a crossbow, good ones are very cheap and >90ft-lbs!
Look for paint ball markers mate.
Got more kick, lots of ammo types.
And best of all they can be delivered straight to your house.
Example the Umarex HDR 50 cal Revolver or the HDR 50 cal pistol.
@@AkiraHDR50 is this a good self defence pistol? Looking at getting something for the house incase of robbery etc
@@AS-rw5gz Get a big dog lol.
You mention blowback twice.
I can't find any BB mechanism is any of the pistols that I have disassembled. How does BB work?
Is there any way to modify a blowback pistol to disable the BB and thus save CO2?
1875 is really truth because you load pellets from the back and no “exotic “ pellets just cheap Crosman or Flat Daisy,gum itself is incredible ❤❤❤❤❤
A wee question perps do Webley still make aur rifles?? Webley falcon and the falcon mark2
Well done from across the pond! Great review.
Where can I get that pouch that holds the revolver shells u had on the table please andy
What about the daisy 415 power line
If the SHTF, you can't even hunt with them..?
So, what is the most portable rifle might be the question...?
Why are these Pistols even a thing? If they are so innaccurate are they any use for target shooting?
Love the tea towel analogy
what do you think about the Umarex HDR .50 11J version, can do some dmg to "someone"?
Got the 7.5 j version.
Wouldn't want to get hit by them hard rubber balls. 😵
The crosman vigilante puts out better numbers than any of those guns you reviewed.
Defending yourself is a "law breaking situation" which is just terrible
Thanks for the TECHNICAL explanation of speed versus power.
One thing that should be addressed for those concerned about the PRACTICAL aspect is the ability of specific cloth/fur to prevent/reflect the objects [pellets/steel-BBs/plastic-BBs] at specified jouled guns.
Oh my word...I loved them all! Big fan of these guns! You lucky boy!
Hello, I live in Europe and in rural areas we often have stray dogs that might pose a threat to a hiker. I am looking to purchase an airgun pistol for defense, in case of such a threat, but not to kill the animal! Preferably to make it go away by the pain of the pellets. Would that be a good choice?
hi i plan on buying a airgun for me and my brother do you recommend one with bbs or pellets . i read that bbs can damage the barrel or gun easier then pellets
What's the best and powerful. 22 air pistol in the uk ?
can i leave my co2 in my pistol when i am not useing it for say a month?
01:46 I have to disagree. I own a kwc 24/7 (120 m/s = 390 FPS at 2,5 joules) Co2 replica which shots 4,5mm steel BBs. I had done domestic hunting with that pistol, that is to say, killed a few birds with it, at a distance of 2 meters and 5 meters. I've made some tests pre warming the magazine (do it at your own risk, it can explode) and the increse of power is noticeable. The sound is more explosive, you can't see the BB traveling and it can harm at more distance. I've tested on pork meat covered on piece of jeans pants and it goes through. it may not kill but on a human it would cause pain, and bleeding giving you the time to run away or do another maneuver.
I think he is trying to get people not to use these on other people, but he's making people think that these are harmless. These are all capable of killing people, and they often do. Like you said with the flesh medium, I have seen an Airsoft go through a tin of corned beef at close range. It is totally true that people do not understand the numbers.
Victory CP2 ?? I thought from your own review of the CP2 it would have been worth a mention as a CO2 with more power?
@@FlyboyHelosim or is it that vector don't sell the CP2 ?? 😮
hi andy do you think you can bring a hatsan sorty uk leagal 6ftlb if it exists in the uk i will also buy one and dress it up to look like an mp5k just for fun what do you think
You have a lovely accent. I love your content.
Andy love you to review the umerex hdr 50 with rubber balls, great co2 review
Get Mrs AAR to test one out on him. Might stop him from saying they don't work. 😂😂😂
Great video im a big fan or air pistols.
What about the 80 to almost 90 FPE they are getting from the Huben GK1, would you consider that enough for a self defense situation? While it isn't gonna be the optimal choice I think it would work for someone if need be.
Hi, both the Huben GK1 and a weapon for self defence are both illegal here in the U.K. No second amendment here I’m afraid. Stay safe. Andy
@@AAROnair womp womp
KE = M X V squared. Take your pick which you choose to bump up or down.
If my life was genuinely in danger, whether I was breaking the law would be the last thing on my mind.
Yes M92
What ammo
Can use
My webley mk6 is a good little gun. Bought from guys at vector air.
Hi andy please can you show us the pistol target shooting and how good with accuracy please thank you
Are pepperball guns legal in the UK? Byrna makes a pepperball gun which also shoots a hard plastic ball that seriously hurt!
a big figure is the length of the barrel. @ 100 psi a bb will travel faster out of a 9'' barrel than a 1'' barrel, but then decreases speed with friction as length continue correct?
Do you have a review with the Crosman 2240? I got a squirrel with mine. The 5.5 mm...
Which CO2 pistol has a blowback action and adjustable sights.
Great physics lesson !!!
WinGun 733 (Co2 Revolver Replica) can be upgraded to a maximum of 750 fps
Would any of the projectiles perforate the skin on a persons face ?
It's strange that your saying you cannot use the Glock 17 gen 4 for pest control as I shot through and shattered a jam jar and also a kitchen tile which completely split in half. Mind you once it reaches the 3rd magazine the gas runs out.
Yes CO2 guns can put out decent amount of power to dispatch pests. Two important factors are barrel volume and air (or CO2) pressure. Since CO2 pressure is fixed at 800 psi, you need to make barrel volume large (which means caliber is large). That way CO2 guns can certainly put out 20, 30 or even 40 FPE, enough to kill small pests and be menacing enough to deter someone.
Can you still get a Webley tempest
Yet another no nonsense review. And yes please to a review of CO2 pistol accuracy
Grain wt. Is what give you fpe , the 1911 45 only travel at 980 gps but has a lot of knock down power . So a fat heavy bullet is the power you need and a heavy bullet is better in high wind
Andy...would you do a review of the HDR 68 PLEASE? 😊
I have done one it’s on the channel