Excellent video thank you, just in the process of purchasing a Suzuki DF250AP for our 7.6m RIB down here in the BVI, looking forward to taking it out for a spin
I would actually advise against what you were doing. You don't want to run a new engine at the same rpm for too long, you should vary the revs. Even if you don't want to go over 3,000, you should cycle between 1000-3000 during that time.
So you would advise him to go against the owners manual and the team of engineers that spent 1000’s off hours designing and testing the engines before they hit the market voiding his warranty when he goes for his first oil change and they hook it up and see the read out on the engine rpm vs hours?
Nomis The manual doesn’t state run it at the same rpm for the entire time like he did. It’s saying don’t exceed a certain rpm. It’s basic engine knowledge that you always want to vary the rpms on a new motor
@@thebigmann25 I’ve just checked the latest Suzuki manuals for the 200 and 300hp. According to the manuals, neither of you, (or the guy who did the video) are correct. The manuals state that for the remainder of the first two hours, you run the engine at UP TO half throttle (3000rpm). For the third hour, you run the engine AT 4000rpm. (My capitals). Not sure if this is Suzuki’s intention however. There are a number of errors in the manuals, most likely because the engines are made in Japan and the person that wrote them is probably Japanese.
I’ve just checked your video again. Your manual says the same as mine, (2:49 and 4:55). “Less than 3000 r/min” and “at 4000 r/min” is what it says. It does not say, “at 3000”. As I suggested earlier, this subtle difference may not be what Suzuki intended. Something may have been lost in the translation. If I had to guess, I would say the “at 4000 r/min” should also say “less than 4000 r/min”.
What about the first oil change? Do you do a break in oil change? I know some engines the first oil change is early. How many hours does Suzuki want you to go on the first oil change? Thank you 👍
I was told to not run it at wot long for break in. Nothing so specific. Im now experiencing cavitation and its taking slower to plane out. Dont know whats wrong.
I just saw this video. Hopefully you're problem is sorted out. I saw a RUclips on a new boat they put on the water and they mentioned that the motor needed to be lowered because they were getting cavitation. See link at about 4:18 ruclips.net/video/Omw26boouE8/видео.html
I was only able to get into the 1.45 hours at 3K R/PM and had to pack up for the day. Can I finish my last stage of 4K R/PM in the morning like I had planned? for the most part I stayed at 3K for 1.45 hrs with maybe 10-15 minutes of reduced idle all together in that whole time, is this also ok? Thanks!
you are way too gentle with the motor! they dont like this gentle approach. after 10 gallons of gas, if you varied the throttle a whole lot and plenty of full throttle runs, the rings are seated. DO NOT give it any more extended idle. this is why these motors burn oil after 500hrs: cylinder walls glaze up and wont seal the rings properly.
@@fastwin493 I love older OMC for reliability/serviceability, but suzuki is the better motor. Although they did get a lot of tech from OMC/Johnson. In their current state they are the most fuel efficent engines.
i highly disagree with this gentle/extended idle approach. First 5 minutes idle, then full throttle to plane the boat off, and back down to half throttle - 3/4 throttle varying the speed every 30 seconds or so for about 10 minutes. back to idle. shut motor down. let it cool off. then start it up and go full throttle for 1 solid minute, then back off varying the throttle a bunch. thats basically all it takes to seat those rings, and thats all you are doing. nothing more. too much idling will cause the cylinder walls to get more of a glaze than is optimal, and it will start to burn more oil after 500 hrs.
Appreciate the simplicity of your presentation. Well done. Thank You. Smooth sailing, tight lines.
I just love your accent and your English is simply fantastic. Great video with great patients taken on the motor so you can enjoy it for years to come
Thank you Dina
Just picked up a 2020 SeaPro 248 DLX. Suzuki DF-300ap. Getting ready to take it out and break it in. Great Video. Thank you.
Excellent video thank you, just in the process of purchasing a Suzuki DF250AP for our 7.6m RIB down here in the BVI, looking forward to taking it out for a spin
Got 2 new df200 on 26 world 🐈
Getting ready to do this
me too on a stratos WA
The best break in video, thanks
Thank you man
Great video! Thanks for some good info. One question. During the last stage of break in how long between 5 minute intervals at full throttle?
Thank you motor Boat
I have new suzuki coming in May and found your video very helpful thank you. Off topic question for you, who makes that hat you are wearing ??
What size boat do you have, who is the manufacturer? Great video btw, thanks for making it since I'm looking to buy the same motor.
Sorry for late answer, this is 2016 Sailfish 240CC
just out of curiosity, why did you not replace with another Yamaha?
I would actually advise against what you were doing. You don't want to run a new engine at the same rpm for too long, you should vary the revs. Even if you don't want to go over 3,000, you should cycle between 1000-3000 during that time.
So you would advise him to go against the owners manual and the team of engineers that spent 1000’s off hours designing and testing the engines before they hit the market voiding his warranty when he goes for his first oil change and they hook it up and see the read out on the engine rpm vs hours?
Nomis The manual doesn’t state run it at the same rpm for the entire time like he did. It’s saying don’t exceed a certain rpm. It’s basic engine knowledge that you always want to vary the rpms on a new motor
@@thebigmann25 I’ve just checked the latest Suzuki manuals for the 200 and 300hp. According to the manuals, neither of you, (or the guy who did the video) are correct. The manuals state that for the remainder of the first two hours, you run the engine at UP TO half throttle (3000rpm). For the third hour, you run the engine AT 4000rpm. (My capitals). Not sure if this is Suzuki’s intention however. There are a number of errors in the manuals, most likely because the engines are made in Japan and the person that wrote them is probably Japanese.
I’ve done exactly how Suzuki suggested in the Owners Manual
I’ve just checked your video again. Your manual says the same as mine, (2:49 and 4:55). “Less than 3000 r/min” and “at 4000 r/min” is what it says. It does not say, “at 3000”. As I suggested earlier, this subtle difference may not be what Suzuki intended. Something may have been lost in the translation. If I had to guess, I would say the “at 4000 r/min” should also say “less than 4000 r/min”.
Hey great video. Where can I buy that hat?
Какая максимальная Василий)) у твоего комплекта?
What about the first oil change? Do you do a break in oil change? I know some engines the first oil change is early. How many hours does Suzuki want you to go on the first oil change? Thank you 👍
20 hrs
I was told to not run it at wot long for break in. Nothing so specific. Im now experiencing cavitation and its taking slower to plane out. Dont know whats wrong.
Nod and smile at sales staff. Then, read the manual and do EXACTLY what it says. Every time.
Try different prop one pitch lower
I just saw this video. Hopefully you're problem is sorted out.
I saw a RUclips on a new boat they put on the water and they mentioned that the motor needed to be lowered because they were getting cavitation. See link at about 4:18
ruclips.net/video/Omw26boouE8/видео.html
Any update on how you like it so far compared to the F300?
Now is about 150 hours on it, the motor is pretty strong, better on MPG than Yamaha F300, as well on cruising and top speed.
I was only able to get into the 1.45 hours at 3K R/PM and had to pack up for the day. Can I finish my last stage of 4K R/PM in the morning like I had planned?
for the most part I stayed at 3K for 1.45 hrs with maybe 10-15 minutes of reduced idle all together in that whole time, is this also ok? Thanks!
you are way too gentle with the motor! they dont like this gentle approach. after 10 gallons of gas, if you varied the throttle a whole lot and plenty of full throttle runs, the rings are seated. DO NOT give it any more extended idle. this is why these motors burn oil after 500hrs: cylinder walls glaze up and wont seal the rings properly.
how does it compare with the yamaha 300?
You can get your Yamaha in all years from this guy I got entangled with and he’s stuffs are awesome
@Andersonera
He’s on telegram
Whats propellers ?
👍
Did you say 7hrs at full throttle
"Up to full throttle for no more than 5 minutes for the last 7 hours"
With 50hp honda 4 stroke, carburation, i race that motor eazy
I have a 18ft palm beach whitecap..do you think a 90hp 2020 Suzuki would perform ok?
In my opinion please talk to your Suzuki dealer, I’m not familiar with this boat
Smoke it if you got it!
Эх Вася, Вася!
My dealer told me to run it
Можно по русски?
nonsense....Evinrude all engnes no break in period...
havent you heard? evinrude is dead. no more. gone.
@@fastwin493 I love older OMC for reliability/serviceability, but suzuki is the better motor. Although they did get a lot of tech from OMC/Johnson. In their current state they are the most fuel efficent engines.
No engine needs breaking in.
It is all bullshit.
i highly disagree with this gentle/extended idle approach. First 5 minutes idle, then full throttle to plane the boat off, and back down to half throttle - 3/4 throttle varying the speed every 30 seconds or so for about 10 minutes. back to idle. shut motor down. let it cool off. then start it up and go full throttle for 1 solid minute, then back off varying the throttle a bunch. thats basically all it takes to seat those rings, and thats all you are doing. nothing more. too much idling will cause the cylinder walls to get more of a glaze than is optimal, and it will start to burn more oil after 500 hrs.
теперь бы на русском ещё
How to break into the motor? Just open the cover…???
Хз. Я бы на всю котлету сразу навалил.
A motor is electric,
Outboards are engines,
Nope