THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY! SUZUKI OUTBOARDS (#1 MOST RELIABLE)
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY! SUZUKI OUTBOARDS (#1 MOST RELIABLE)
We've been getting question after question on what outboard brand is the most reliable....Our answer is Suzuki every time for every horsepower. Good, Bad & Ugly Suzuki is happening now! Comment below on if you're running a Suzuki Outboard and let us know your experience with it. Also, Comment below if we've swayed you at all to either purchase or research Suzuki. We want to send all of these comments to Suzuki Corporate. Thanks as always everyone for your support!
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20hp Suzuki on my 14 Starcraft. Gets my family out fishing and learned about it here. No regrets love the time with my kids and wife
Comment below on it you're running a Suzuki Outboard and let us know if our videos either persuaded you to buy one or at least go check them out. Thanks everyone.
90 or 90SS I'm looking for a great motor for my tin rig
I repoword my 1990 wellcraft v20 with a new suzuki df225 in 2015. I know its not a bass boat. But I absolutely love the motor. Could not be happier with it. It will push my heavy boat in the lowe 50s.
I’ve had a 2020 Suzuki 200SS on my 2002 Ranger 520 DX for 2 years. Lost speed from 62 down to 49 from my old evinrude ficht 225 Rude Ram. Love the Suzuki but hate I lost that much.
what about the props for the bad or is it only applying to motors
Love them Suzuki outboards! Thanks for all the help with getting mine propped correctly! Made my entire boat perform better. Solas Amita4 4 blade is the best thing that ever happened to the tin boat platform. Got my first one from Andy and it lasted 6 years (thank you river gods) before I “found” some rocks with it last weekend. New one came in two days ago 😂
I own the white Gatortrax 21' Strike, with 300 Suzuki they posted in March. Sea level, I rip the 27p Scorpion 6200+rpm, and mid 70mph. 4800' elevation, and I run 5600, and mid 60's. Not shabby for a 3k+ pound aluminum battleship!!
Great channel ,you convince me on Suzuki but I'm a small tin boat owner ,The 30 hp and below are made in Thailand not Japan , your opinion ?
Awesome machines i have dt30 ❤
What about Honda?
Love the reliability.. Reliability is at the top of my list of must haves. But will say when spending that kind of money I shouldn't have to spend more to figure out how to get it to perform
"I don't have any brand....except for Evinrude" 😂 Truth!
1st
Where are all you Suzuki fans at out there?
People just don’t know……… YET! You’re helping change that for the better
I put a 200 on my 1999 champion 202 only after following your channel. Tell Suzuki that. I didn’t want the extra weight on my older transom, and at 66, speed is not my top priority, dependability is. It is absolutely the best motor I have ever owned. It is wonderful.
I have no idea what this video is about.
Is the ex girlfriend subscription tshirt still available
Haha always!
great video andy , telling the truth in a world full of lies, you are the "scotty kilmer " of the outboard world and i absolutely love your coverage of that SUZUKI 250SS BEAST !
The bad... fuel efficiency.
Motors are so damn quiet you end up leaving them running and after a week of running they're out of gas.
🤣🤣🤣
Rather work on a force...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'm ☠
I wish Suzuki looked as nice as the Yamaha. Their styling just looks cheap and not as appealing as Yamaha and Mercury.
Thoughts on the new 250 SS styling
I used to run a 2007 Suzuki DF40 and I only have good things to say about it. It had some issues, but they could have easily been avoided with proper maintenance. The issues that even the repair shops couldn't solve(but happily took my money) made me take matters into my own hands and fix it, and it was very easy to work on. When it ran as it should, it had astonishing fuel economy, extremely low noise level at cruising speed and an amazing amount of torque for a 4 stroke of that size, due to bigger displacement than the competitors even to this day. I used to load up my 14ft inflatable with up to 9 people, and it would pull us up on plane with the standard prop and it still operated within recommended WOT rpm range. It made a nice growl too, being a 3 cylinder. Even though I ran Hondas, Yamahas and Mercs, there was something about Suzuki that spoke to me on a different level, and it may be subjective but if I was buying another outboard, it would most probably be Suzuki.
what size propeller did you use?
No man the most reliable outboard is Yamaha Maybe Honda engine wise but not Suzuki
Question….Do you have a Yamaha?
Yamaha. Period.
Great video Andy!
Thanks!
This videos helps me to get my fist suzuki dt30 😅 awesome machine
This is a say nothing video. They ramble about odd stuff and go into no specifics. Don't waste your time.
Can’t wait to see ya in the comments of our next video! 🤣
@@TeamMarineService Ill watch your next video. If its repetitive rambling Ill call you out on it too. Write a script and be prepared.
You nailed that. Got a 2018 Ocqueteau Ostrea 800 with a Suzuki 200HP 2.9L 4 cylinder and I cant find a dealer who will set it up properly. I wanted a better top speed and higher cruising speed so wanted to change the prop.... Can't get any help so now Suzuki sucks....PS went through 3 dealers trying to get a service done.
Just can’t do a video without that Evinrude punch eh! Lol!
Suzuki #1
True dat!
Decals are not level
I have a 175 on a 22’ bay boat and i have the wrong prop. My RPM goes to 7k. I obviously never run it that hard,the one I have now is a 3x16x21.5 any clue which I need? My goal is top end speed
You videos are the reason I went with a Suzuki outboard for my bass boat!
If the dreaded twin spark plug 1999/2000 225 hp motor just all the sudden dies while running and doesn't restart. Compression check shows 120 in all cylinders...what is known about this engine to look toward replacing. I am thinking the ECU could be the culprit? Since it has the fuel injection system I haven't checked anything on it but no other indicator other than shutting off. Thanks I saw how you referenced the twin spark plug cylinder engine...so thinking you are not big fans of it...what have you found goes wrong with it! Thanks!
Anyone have experience with the 115 vs 140 suzuki in slow speed trolling applications. I have 19 ft deep v tin boat.
YAMAHA and Mercury Best!! Suzuki good product but not the better of the bunch.
I need help my Suzuki 250 DF starboard side overheating only 60 hours on it. Everything was changed, including impeller, water, pressure valve, spark plugs, thermostats everything I could think of somebody help.😢
Suzuki is #1 for sure! Mercury has fallen off
#Truth
I given up on mercury! Right now my boat is at the shop getting a 140hp Suzuki on her
My uncles slowzuki just broke down on em 175 suzie i had even blown em away with merc 150. I also even pull.log rafts home with my 150 merc just put on a 23 pitch fury 4 blade on it.
Trade my mercury 150 in for a slowzuki 150?
I notice Mercs and yammies in the same horsepower move my exact boat better through the water with less cavitation going up the back of waves.
25ft x 8ft Lafitte Skiff very slight V
Anyone have an idea of what Suzuki would be right im thinking 300 because it needs to be fast so i can cruise at a good clip for efficiency on long runs
Looking to put eather Suzuki or Yamaha 250 on my2007 skeeter 21i heavy boat have u ever riged a Suzuki 250ss on one thanks.
I've been running a 2021 DF300B on a custom 28' Aluminum boat offshore on the coast of Oregon. We are at 470 hours and I am blown away by the performance of this motor. The boat weighs about 7500 most days and we run it hard chasing TUNA! and most anything else we want to fish for. We burn 87 octane street gas and have not had any problems.
DF140 is best engine I’ve ever had. I sold the boat and motor years ago. Motor outlasted the boat!
Mostly Suzuki on cape cod, Yamaha is second but not even close
When my Optimax blew up, I repowered my 2013 Triton 21HP with a 250ss. My local Mercury dealer started selling Suzuki. I chose to go with Suzuki due to reliability. There is not a lot of setup info for my combo and no one in my area running a Suzuki on a bass boat. It took time and a lot of props to get it right. Thanks to your channel, I ended up with a Scorpion prop and swapped out the inlet screens. I lost 3 mph but I have seen 72 with the Suzuki. If I had it to do over again I would go Suzuki again and again. Thanks Team Marine for your informative videos.
From what I read on the Spec sheets Suzuki usually gears the lower units with more gear reduction so finding a prop they like is much different that a Merc, tohatsu, or other
I have a 05 Johnson which is a Suzuki engine and it still runs great with one turn of the key at 1700 plus hours on both engines.
LOL, I have a 2003 DT150 (2 stroke) and still running strong(ish) Looking to repower in a Zuki 150-200hp with drive by wire (throttle and gear selection only) The fact that this 20 year old 2S is still running is a testament IMHO, its just that critical parts are getting impossible to find and I have killed all the mosquitos in 1 square mile with startup insect fogging LOL.
ive got air pressure behind my oil dip stick and no one has an answer for my 50 hp suzuki.
I'm looking at a Suzuki 50 tiller for a Lund fury.
Just repowered with a 115 Suzuki,have not water tested yet
How is the power of a Suzuki vs a Yamaha or Mercury?
Specifically a 200 or 250 horse on a tritoon?
They all have 200 and 250 hp across the board. It’s all about propping when it comes to speed. We will say that in the 250 world the Suzuki is out favorite with Yamaha a close 2nd but in the 200 world Suzuki is our least favorite of the bunch.
Ive seen suzuki 115 on pontoons. Couldnt believe how quiet. Couldnt tell it was running. Have a crestliner 19ft. Deep v. 25" johnson 115. Thinking to go with the suzuki 115. U think it will out perform the omc.
My family purchased two different 115 suzukis about 3 months apart. One ran 43 from the dealer with a 20p. Put a 24 on it and raised the motor 1 3/4 and its now running 54 on the limiter. We told the dealer we wanted to try a 26 and they told me I was crazy. They had never heard of a 115 with a 24p wanting more prop. For a 115 there pretty damn impressive to say the least.
Typical that dealers never fail to fail when rigging a boat.
I’m going to pick up a Gator Trax center console 21 foot with a Suzuki 250SS on Wednesday.
Really excited about it!!
Your videos were the main reason I chose Suzuki.
I’ll let you know how it does after I’ve ran it for a while.
I just wished they used anodes inside the powerheads like Yamaha
Suport from Croatia for you Video,, but too mach talking go faster to the point of the Story..
Suzuki needs a better dealer network. Id consider them if they had partnered with any boat brands around here or even had a dealer that sold them/serviced them
The good the bad the ugly! I wouldn't ever own no damn honda outboard motor!
Argentina el país más atrasado del planeta , Suzuki entro en 1975 y en 1976 ya habíamos entendido que Suzuki era el mejor motor del mundo
Jordan, my ex subscribed. Shirt please. 👍🏻
I bought a new 25 hp Suzuki 4 stroke FI. 5 years ago. Love it!!! Replaced a 40 hp johnson. (My boat is rated for 30hp) got it on a 15 foot Express john boat. My wife and I fish a lot here in Alabama. Flawless motor, gets great fuel economy.
I watched a couple die in a boat that was 10HP overpowered like yours. They put those ratings on the boats for a reason. Admittedly this couple did something stupid (hard over giving full throttle - boat flipped over) but we do stupid things sometimes. The 2 young children on board lived because they had PFD's on but now they have no parents.
90 tiller here. Had a remote 90 before. Love that motor. So quiet and civilized running motor.
The old Exante....12 NGKs and DT 150 Bass. Late 90's early 2000s we had a ton of Commercial guys on the DT V6s and we rebuilt a ton of them. Would love to find a Cherry DT30 3 cylinder- best tiller jon boat engine I ever had.
I thought it was funny he had ZERO actual complaints about the DT v6 motors. he literally made no sense. I suspect he personally has no idea how they work , thus the outcome of what he said. the reality is those motors had a STELLER service record. so good, in fact, Suzuki doubled the warranty to an unheard of 3 years in 1987, just one year after introduction. ask yourself this: the same basic design remained virtually unchanged up to stop of production. thats a testament to the design, and is obviously the motor that allowed them to pursue 4 strokes. if they had been a failure, Suzuki would not be in the outboard business today. fact. 99% of issues were with the idiot owners. i bet your commercial guys got over 2500 hrs out of them easily.
Next time you hang a new motor, you should weight it to see how accurate the actual is vs the advertised weight.
Great idea
100% agree! I just purchased the 200 HP.
2 people test gets 5800 rpm. Then 4 people test only 5200 rpm? Not even try 6 people and contacted the dealer. I want my engine at 6000 to 6100 rpm loaded. Ends removing the propeller 3x16x23R and requesting 3x16x18.5R , I still waiting on the mail to arrive. I feel sorry for the customer without the knowledge and experience when the dealers are doing repower living the customer with a new engine and poor engine performance.
Team marine TV checking in!
If it doesn't come out of the whole shop what is wrong with it
Suzuki people doesnt need to talk with anybody, because Suzuki Is best outboard ever , here in Argentina we already know this
The bad : charging output is weak
We still run a 2006 DF150. ~2K hours currently. It’s bulletproof. Quiet, efficient, reliable. Liked it so much I bought a 2009 2.5 for our dinghy. 😊
I want to put a 175 on my bass boat so bad
What's up Andy What's up Neil What's up Speed, Money, No Brakes!! 💥🤙
What's up Buddy! Hello from all of us
absolutely love my suzuki 250. thanks for the info.
If you two farmers are going to carry on a conversation the guy off-camera needs to have a mic. so we can follow.😉
Nice info. I hung a DF140BT on my boat this week and have the rigging tube/gromet to deal with tomorrow. Going on an old 354V Ranger should be interesting what it runs. Had an XR6/150 and would run right about 60 on a cool morn. I am thinking 53-55. We will see.
How did it turn out for top speed ? I am looking at this 140hp
That rigging tube is communist.
@@sha6mm I am late with this, lol, but it ended up @53mph. Propping these is very diff. The gear case ratio is very diff. I expected to us a 23p based on Yamaha and Merc experience. Man was that wrong, I am running a 26p and hitting 6100rrpm WOT. I am very pleased, the hole shot is great and the fuel economy is outstanding. I did the Engine Interface cable to bring the engine data to my Garmins. Shows everything from hours, fuel consumption water temp, motor trim position... and a krap load more.
I'm putting a new 30 HP on my rebuilt 16' SS StarCraft. It's been on back order for 3 months. I think they don't need more dealers. They have their hands full getting motors to Coastal Asia and Africa.
Suzuki df150 or yamaha f150 ?
the Super-Six DT150 had the dual plug heads . Not talking EFI, but the early ones had I.C. Ignition then the floating-timing curve MicroLink system. Both were very easy to work on once you understood how they functioned and extremely reliable in my opinion. The sensors were all so easy to test, and as long as the ICU had power, it just worked. Ok there were a few failures early on, but again super advanced for their day. As far as carbs and CD ignitions go, even to this day I havent seen a more advanced system being fully digital. The 2.7 liter blocks were easy to make a 150 into a 200, and made huge torque.
What are your thoughts on the 350?
I moved from a Merc pro xs 2 stroke to a 250 SS because of Andy!
Smart man!
Thank You for all You do, especially the information you share across America.
I appreciate that J Mac! I do it for y'all!!!
140 Suzuki, 2022 definitely wanted a Suzuki from watching you guys Yamaha was second pick, very happy with my Suzuki turn the key and it goes.
I have a 89 pro Yamaha and TM fix it !
I love my DF60. I compete in a 16' alumacraft and the guys that I fish against, who have fiberglass boats ain't got shit on me. I can get WHEREVER I want to on the river and burn about 1/100th of the fuel that they do. And my fish weigh more -- lol
You're doing it right Gary!
250 SS on a Manitou pontoon 2022 best engine I have ever owned, starts every time quiet and powerful
Awesome James!
You did push me the Suzuki direction as a result of you comparison reviews
Hi I am a Suzuki Dealer in the UK. I see you don't like the rigging grommet and I agree it is a pain. I have an answer for you which I hope will make your life easier. Check out 67300-90J00 for DF70A to DF140A and 67300-93J00 for DF150 to DF350 Thru Hull Hose Attachment. They just leave a big hole which is what you wanted. They are shown on Page 33 of the current Suzuki P&A Catalogue. Always like to check out what you guys are doing over the pond. Keep up the good work.
Hello from the US Gordon! You understand the pain. Thanks for the tip buddy
After being an Evinrude dealer for 42yrs and then Mercury before selling out. I truely have seen the good the bad and definitely the ugly. There is a reason why Suzuki is concentrating on the re-power market . Smart business move beings everyone else is Concentrating on boat packages. Price wize Suzuki has the bang for the buck. Power wize the Merc will tear the ass out Suzuki and yamaha. The worst thing about Suzuki that should be considered is they hands down have the worst warranty in the industry
Worst warranty???? How so Michael?
I have a 2006 Df140..I'm pleased with it. Very quiet and reliable. I have it in a 2006 Key west Bay Rrrf 196. I get up to 40 to 45 mph with trim tabs and correct trim level. Hopefully motor will last. I use amsoil products with gear oil and power head oil changes.
I noticed a lot of the fishermen in Alaska mostly use Suzuki. Any reason why that might be?
Reliability, Reliability, Reliability!!!!
I tried to listen to this guy , the babbling went on and on..couldn’t do it ,, too cool for me
Maybe next year Ron
Hey, great video. Very informative. I bought a 2022 Suzuki 200 APX fly by wire. The only issue I have so far is some proper chatter. Other than that, the motor seems great. What is your opinion on this motor and is there any issues I should keep an eye out for? Thanks.
They are solid overall. Not the best 200 hp option for bass boats but we are working on that issue. Offshore guys are liking them
Gawd amighty get to the point.
Nobody ever mentions another manufacture to Mazzu outboard motors for Navy SEALs use nothing about them. I don’t ever hear anybody talk about them they’ll most reliable motor out there if the Navy SEALs use them, right
That’s Tomatsu outboard motors
Tohatsu? They are very reliable outboards!
Buddy is running a 250ss on a 1999 tr-21 triton, just swapped to the new atlas hydraulic jack plate, it bent the old one rated for 300hp, loaded with poles, 36 altex runs 78-80 depending on conditions
WoW!! I have a 2001 TR-21 with original 250 XB….. May have me leaning to a Suzuki….
Can we get an over/under on an Xpress X19 Pro?
Why would you run anything other than a merc!
Simple…. We want to make it back to the landing
Thank you! Great vid! Can you address their parts availability situation? Seems all are having this issue nowadays, but the word on the street, even before Brandon's abysmal admin, that parts were hard to get.
We didn't see any parts issues before COVID but yes they are all struggling now. Suzuki has been affected the least we'd say but still affected
Finding comparable boats to prop against is the bad in my opinion. A merc 175 runs 25p prop and due to the gear ratio the suzuki needs much more. I currently bounce off the Rev limiter with a 27p. When I got the money I'll try to run bigger props.
What about tohatsu/ Honda?
I would like a video on them also, but probably not enough interest in them. What I think is valuable to us boaters is again Japanese engineering and the reliability factor in these brands.
We are getting ready to sling a 115 SS On a pontoon! Will let you know how it performs! Lmao
Heck yeah! Would love to know how y’all like it
@TeamMarineService Our customer went from 21mph on his old opti to 28mph for a 115 to 115 swap! Customer was THRILLED!
Ugly is the corrosion issue
Just had that 12 spark plug suzuki roll into our shop this week ! 😂
great motors those DTV6's. l love that nobody actually has any solid evidence to back up why they think they are bad.
Xwife count?
What changed in the last 2 years? They you rated it 2nd under Yamaha then. Did Suzuki change anything since then to make you rate them higher now?
They are both neck and neck. It's all dependent on horsepower. The 250SS is the most reliable 250 in our opinion but the yamaha 115 and 150 are more reliable. Small hp Suzuki's get the nod too
@@TeamMarineService I got the DF115. So far so good. Still good to hear overall Suzukis are a safe bet. Thing is insanely quiet. Honestly forget its on at low rpms
I have a 2021 9.9 Suzuki 4 stroke..no issues with it at all, very quiet, great on gas, fresh water only. The ugly..it's heavy 105lbs with electric start I purchased it for my dinghy but it's too heavy to man handle off the swim platform onto the dinghy. I have it on a 15' aluminum fishing boat..
Well… I’m about to do some testing of a new Suzuki 50hp on a 17’ duck hunting boat this fall.
Should I install a jack/ kick plate?
Semi-v, step transom 17’ 56” across the floor with a 68” beam, tiller drive. What should I expect speed wise? Mid 30’s is what I’m thinking
For the experts & Suzuki lovers please help!!
I have a 2005 DT150 Suzuki outboard my lower is seized and shot! I refuse to let it go, we love this boat & motor! Problem is the parts are obsolete…. The gears are a manufacturing defect & well the one thing that seizes up in the lower! So we know what it is but can’t find crap for replacement parts!
We will fix it on our own however need any advice to find parts for it… google leads to nothing helpful. TIA
I will be honest i have been on hundreds and hundreds of boats with all different brand outboards and out of them all Suzuki's have always preformed above the rest in reliability. warranties and is up there in performance and efficiency next i would say is Yamaha's only had one not preform well and all it was is going intonlimp mode because of a defective chip then I wound say mercury comes in third have been on a few where webhad parts fail starting issue ls feul issues and parts wearing out anything thats not those three i wound never buy one
Love my old 04 Suzuki DF115! Bullet proof, easy to work on, was designed to be easily serviced, and it’s been so bullet proof!