THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY! SUZUKI OUTBOARDS (#1 MOST RELIABLE)
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- Опубликовано: 22 сен 2022
- THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY! SUZUKI OUTBOARDS (#1 MOST RELIABLE)
We've been getting question after question on what outboard brand is the most reliable....Our answer is Suzuki every time for every horsepower. Good, Bad & Ugly Suzuki is happening now! Comment below on if you're running a Suzuki Outboard and let us know your experience with it. Also, Comment below if we've swayed you at all to either purchase or research Suzuki. We want to send all of these comments to Suzuki Corporate. Thanks as always everyone for your support!
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Comment below on it you're running a Suzuki Outboard and let us know if our videos either persuaded you to buy one or at least go check them out. Thanks everyone.
90 or 90SS I'm looking for a great motor for my tin rig
I repoword my 1990 wellcraft v20 with a new suzuki df225 in 2015. I know its not a bass boat. But I absolutely love the motor. Could not be happier with it. It will push my heavy boat in the lowe 50s.
I’ve had a 2020 Suzuki 200SS on my 2002 Ranger 520 DX for 2 years. Lost speed from 62 down to 49 from my old evinrude ficht 225 Rude Ram. Love the Suzuki but hate I lost that much.
what about the props for the bad or is it only applying to motors
Where are all you Suzuki fans at out there?
You videos are the reason I went with a Suzuki outboard for my bass boat!
I put a 200 on my 1999 champion 202 only after following your channel. Tell Suzuki that. I didn’t want the extra weight on my older transom, and at 66, speed is not my top priority, dependability is. It is absolutely the best motor I have ever owned. It is wonderful.
absolutely love my suzuki 250. thanks for the info.
Thank You for all You do, especially the information you share across America.
I appreciate that J Mac! I do it for y'all!!!
We still run a 2006 DF150. ~2K hours currently. It’s bulletproof. Quiet, efficient, reliable. Liked it so much I bought a 2009 2.5 for our dinghy. 😊
90 tiller here. Had a remote 90 before. Love that motor. So quiet and civilized running motor.
I used to run a 2007 Suzuki DF40 and I only have good things to say about it. It had some issues, but they could have easily been avoided with proper maintenance. The issues that even the repair shops couldn't solve(but happily took my money) made me take matters into my own hands and fix it, and it was very easy to work on. When it ran as it should, it had astonishing fuel economy, extremely low noise level at cruising speed and an amazing amount of torque for a 4 stroke of that size, due to bigger displacement than the competitors even to this day. I used to load up my 14ft inflatable with up to 9 people, and it would pull us up on plane with the standard prop and it still operated within recommended WOT rpm range. It made a nice growl too, being a 3 cylinder. Even though I ran Hondas, Yamahas and Mercs, there was something about Suzuki that spoke to me on a different level, and it may be subjective but if I was buying another outboard, it would most probably be Suzuki.
what size propeller did you use?
When my Optimax blew up, I repowered my 2013 Triton 21HP with a 250ss. My local Mercury dealer started selling Suzuki. I chose to go with Suzuki due to reliability. There is not a lot of setup info for my combo and no one in my area running a Suzuki on a bass boat. It took time and a lot of props to get it right. Thanks to your channel, I ended up with a Scorpion prop and swapped out the inlet screens. I lost 3 mph but I have seen 72 with the Suzuki. If I had it to do over again I would go Suzuki again and again. Thanks Team Marine for your informative videos.
I've been running a 2021 DF300B on a custom 28' Aluminum boat offshore on the coast of Oregon. We are at 470 hours and I am blown away by the performance of this motor. The boat weighs about 7500 most days and we run it hard chasing TUNA! and most anything else we want to fish for. We burn 87 octane street gas and have not had any problems.
I’m going to pick up a Gator Trax center console 21 foot with a Suzuki 250SS on Wednesday.
Really excited about it!!
Your videos were the main reason I chose Suzuki.
I’ll let you know how it does after I’ve ran it for a while.
Hey Team, I have a Suzuki DF90A on my Stingray 182sc. The package is a 2020 year model. I only have around less than 25 hours on it. I’ve had it in the water one time this year and 14 hours on it in 2020. I got hurt in March of 2021 and was unable to take it out that year and most of this year. But so far I have to say that I really like it!
great video andy , telling the truth in a world full of lies, you are the "scotty kilmer " of the outboard world and i absolutely love your coverage of that SUZUKI 250SS BEAST !
140 Suzuki, 2022 definitely wanted a Suzuki from watching you guys Yamaha was second pick, very happy with my Suzuki turn the key and it goes.
Great video Andy!
Thanks!
Watching y’all’s videos is a main reason I bought the new 2500ss. Installed on a unicorn for set up 01 x21.
Love the channel!! Have a 21 Alumacrap 175 competitor sport with a Suzuki 115SS. Came with a Merc prop ?? Any ideas for a good prop option?
I have a 2020 175 on a ranger 692. 50mph@6000. Absolutely love the motor. I have factory 3 blade prop. It struggles a little bit to get on pad with 2 guys fully loaded. Would really like to play with some different propping
I have a 05 Johnson which is a Suzuki engine and it still runs great with one turn of the key at 1700 plus hours on both engines.
I bought a new 25 hp Suzuki 4 stroke FI. 5 years ago. Love it!!! Replaced a 40 hp johnson. (My boat is rated for 30hp) got it on a 15 foot Express john boat. My wife and I fish a lot here in Alabama. Flawless motor, gets great fuel economy.
I watched a couple die in a boat that was 10HP overpowered like yours. They put those ratings on the boats for a reason. Admittedly this couple did something stupid (hard over giving full throttle - boat flipped over) but we do stupid things sometimes. The 2 young children on board lived because they had PFD's on but now they have no parents.
Team marine TV checking in!
Great video, now what you think about 2004 SUZUKI 225HP FOUR STROKE OUTBOARD, is a good or bad?
I looked for my new 2020 boat with a Suzuki on it because of you. Love it but I'm thinking I need to tweak with the prop. I have a 175hp on my 219 Sea pro and only getting 5400 RPM trimmed about 30%.
I have a 2006 Df140..I'm pleased with it. Very quiet and reliable. I have it in a 2006 Key west Bay Rrrf 196. I get up to 40 to 45 mph with trim tabs and correct trim level. Hopefully motor will last. I use amsoil products with gear oil and power head oil changes.
Bought a new suzi 115 feb 2020. Through 300 hours it has been great in every respect.
Speed money no brakes !I love it, best saying In the industry !
I have a 1989 seaswirl 17' Tempo out here in the PNW with a mint 120 johnson. If I had to get new motor I would really like that 140. Glad to hear it is a beast of a motor.
the Super-Six DT150 had the dual plug heads . Not talking EFI, but the early ones had I.C. Ignition then the floating-timing curve MicroLink system. Both were very easy to work on once you understood how they functioned and extremely reliable in my opinion. The sensors were all so easy to test, and as long as the ICU had power, it just worked. Ok there were a few failures early on, but again super advanced for their day. As far as carbs and CD ignitions go, even to this day I havent seen a more advanced system being fully digital. The 2.7 liter blocks were easy to make a 150 into a 200, and made huge torque.
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I went with a 200 Suzuki after my SHO died at 500hrs. I credit your channel with my decision.
I’m looking to a 2005 115. What do you think about that motor? Thank you for any of your input
I’ve always Ran Yamaha’s, but I’m currently looking at a new 2022 boat,comes with a Suzuki 150 and a 9.9 kicker what are your thoughts on that model?
Really like you reviews.
Great info! what's the life expectancy on a 250? serviced and well taken care off
200 on GT 20 ft. 1 year only 0 issue with motor. Limited service support in California. Chose it because of you and Tom.
Hey, great video. Very informative. I bought a 2022 Suzuki 200 APX fly by wire. The only issue I have so far is some proper chatter. Other than that, the motor seems great. What is your opinion on this motor and is there any issues I should keep an eye out for? Thanks.
They are solid overall. Not the best 200 hp option for bass boats but we are working on that issue. Offshore guys are liking them
I have a 1999 DT115 Suzuki on my 1999 duracraft funster still runs great wouldn’t change for anything
Recently purchased a Suzuki 150APX , Team Marines videos basically sold me on a Suzuki instead of a Merc as a run a single engine setup on my offshore centre console and reliability was the number one priority. Take delivery next week and cant see how it goes compared to the old 130hp Honda I had on it before.
I purchased a 2022 Delta 188T with a DF90A tiller and would love some advice on how to prop the boat. Dealer offers no help at all. I got factory prop and left alone to figure this out on my own. Any suggestions?
I am building a 14’ wood runabout and due to local lake limits will be installing a 20hp. Which brand 20 with remote would you recommend?
I have a DF-140 since 2004. Great Motor, only oils change and minimum maintenance!!!
My family purchased two different 115 suzukis about 3 months apart. One ran 43 from the dealer with a 20p. Put a 24 on it and raised the motor 1 3/4 and its now running 54 on the limiter. We told the dealer we wanted to try a 26 and they told me I was crazy. They had never heard of a 115 with a 24p wanting more prop. For a 115 there pretty damn impressive to say the least.
Typical that dealers never fail to fail when rigging a boat.
Great video again! Does someone knows if i can diagnose my johnson 140 4stroke with a Suzuki sds diagnose kit? Like to buy one from Ebay but not sure if it will work.
20hp Suzuki on my 14 Starcraft. Gets my family out fishing and learned about it here. No regrets love the time with my kids and wife
Looking at the 300 Suzuki to put on my new warrior 238 just wondering what your good bad on the 300
Got lucky and found a 2003 521vx with a 250ss still in break in for 26k. On test run it hit 69 when he backed off. Big guy, 350+ lbs and 4 heavy led batteries. I have lightened boat by 200 pounds by lithium’s and lighter fishing partner but it’s blowing out at 67mph now. Running 3 blade 25p fury. What should I do in what order? Motor height, prop, add the weight back? Interested in the scorpion for sure
I would love to hear what you guys think about the DF175
I'm looking at a used boat with a 2016 Suzuki 250. Anything specific I should look for to see if it's in good shape
Put a 250ss on my 2004 champion 206DC. Get 68 mph with a 27p Suzuki 4 blade prop. Any recommendations on the pitch with a scorpion prop for more speed. I was thinking 27 or 28.
I’m having a tough time finding the torque for the 150 and 175. We are throwing our etec in the ocean and getting a Suzuki. We ski a lot and half the time it’s 2 up. Will the 150 be able to pull us out of the water and if so what prop should we use? Top end isn’t really a big deal for us
Yes your videos 💯 made me buy a Suzuki!! The first one I ran was a 150SS I put on my Stratos and it was love at first key turn. Then I got a Falcon with a 250SS and I freaking love it. I won’t own another outboard unless Suzuki really $hits the bed! I top out at 70MPH with a 27” scorpion which is great because I might get 3-4mph more with a Merc but I don’t want a POS motor just for a couple miles per hour.
Just purchased a 2024 175. Hope its dependable as everyone claims.
I have a Starcraft 210 Fishmaster with a 250 SS
Have a watergrip 3x16x18.5 on it now and get 5600rpm and about 45mph at the top end. Any prop recommendations? Redline is supposed to be 6300
Is the 140 Suzuki a good choice for a 17ft Bass Hawk XL fiberglass Bass boat
Keep hearing fuel economy is crazy better. Do you have some way to verify that, and compared to Merc, and Yamaha? Thoughts on 300 and 350 dual prop?
Yes, bring on the big three!
Do you think Electronic Power Assist is necessary with a Suzuki 250 on a Tritoon?
I have a 2022 Suzuki 115SS on my alumacraft pro175 and I love it. Not getting enough rpms though. Probably a prop thing but I still love it.
In the uk nearly all boats run in salt water, suzuki seems to have an issue with internal corrosion, great for me, pull the heads, tig up rebuild all good to go.
Do you guys see any internal corrosion out there?
Here in California is the same, help 4/26/2021 I got a 2021 140hp Suzuki I love it but lately is being doing like a whistle noise when starting the motor, does anyone knows what could be the problem ?
I have a DF 115 with the typical crack in the upper block. Any advise who can spiff this up in the Newfoundland area?
Andy was an influence on me when I purchased my 2020 250SS. I had an Etec 225 on my 2001 203 ChampioN at the time. I have owned Evinrude, Mercury's and Johnsons and Yamahas outboards. I still own a Yamaha and a Merc. So I can say the Suzuki is the most fuel-efficient, and the quietest I have ever had. As per performance goes, well I just did my 300 hr checkup and have had no problems with the motor other than tearing the skag off when I hit something under the water, When my insurance adjuster looked at it he could not believe the gears were in great shape to his surprise. I have good top-end speed @ 71mph. Most people know the Champion is the best riding boat ever made but not a speed boat like Allison. To the Na sayers, I will say u don't know what u don't know!
What prop are you running on your 203 Champ with the 250ss?
@@jawsmod Mercure Mirage Plus 27 pitch. they don't make this prop anymore but you might find one at a prop shop.
Are the matte finish motors the SS model or can you get the other models in matte finish
Looking at a new Ranger rt198p with a mercury 150 pro xs, am I making a mistake??? 😬
Hi, why do I have water coming out of the lower case of my 50hp outbound at the opposite end of the prop
I’ve owned Suzuki since 1995. I just traded in my 25hp short shaft electric start 3 cyl ,three carb which had siix yr. Warranty that I never used. I just bought an 2021 -4 stroke 25 hp. short shaft electric start with power tilt and trim which has an 5 yr warranty. I broke it in this last yr being my first 4 stroke that I have ever owned. It’s so quiet with no smoking at early morning start ups. In my two weeks fishing at our yearly resort this 4 stroke used about a third as much fuel as we have been used to going thu. Pulling the grand-kids in tubes is nice that I can actually hear them screaming while having fun.😀
Currently have 1995 mercury 90hp 2 stroke. 18' bluefin aluminum hull boat. Top end about 36 mph while keeping rpm at 5500 tops. Thought I saw suzuki had 75 4 stroke. If so, would that engine give me comparable speed? More interested in fuel economy and just getting point a to point b comfortably. What is current price range. I'm fishing upper Columbia River. Weight compared to my old mercury 90hp? Thanks, enjoyed the video input!!!
Great channel ,you convince me on Suzuki but I'm a small tin boat owner ,The 30 hp and below are made in Thailand not Japan , your opinion ?
I have a Suzuki 250 as on my boat looking for info on lowering idle speed a little any recommendations?
DF140 is best engine I’ve ever had. I sold the boat and motor years ago. Motor outlasted the boat!
Having used merc and johnson for the last 35+ years, i was very happy when i upgraded to a suzuki during the lockdown before prices went insane on everything.
Suzuki #1
True dat!
Nice info. I hung a DF140BT on my boat this week and have the rigging tube/gromet to deal with tomorrow. Going on an old 354V Ranger should be interesting what it runs. Had an XR6/150 and would run right about 60 on a cool morn. I am thinking 53-55. We will see.
How did it turn out for top speed ? I am looking at this 140hp
I own the white Gatortrax 21' Strike, with 300 Suzuki they posted in March. Sea level, I rip the 27p Scorpion 6200+rpm, and mid 70mph. 4800' elevation, and I run 5600, and mid 60's. Not shabby for a 3k+ pound aluminum battleship!!
I own a 1998 Fisher FX19 Tournament, with a 150 Mariner Magnum. The Mariner has a blown powerhead. I am 58, and I am no longer into speed, I am only interested in reliability/dupability. I am thinking on going with a 85, or 90 horse Suzuki. I am retired, so I got all day, and all week to fish. What are my best choices in OKC? Thanks in advance.
Do a video on the 150/175/200 4 cyl VVT offset drive shaft 2.5 gear ratio!!
DO YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THE POWER UNIT TO REMOVE THE CYLINDER HEAD ON 07 DF115 SUZUKI 4 STROKE?
How are the 90s 2 strokes. Is the PU55 any good?
Can we get an over/under on an Xpress X19 Pro?
Running a 2013 df175 on a 22ft supertunnel with a little over 900 hrs and have never had a problem or been left stranded. I am a maintenance maniac , remember too change those anodes..my boat only runs in salt in south Texas
My boat yard was selling a TON of Suzukis and had lots of problems in the 300hp class. The 250’s though hav been bomb proof, I just had to change out the Internal Air Controller almost from start. It was under warranty but never threw a damn code for 3 years until i got it to finally show long enough for the boat yard to be able to warranty it.
250 SS on a Manitou pontoon 2022 best engine I have ever owned, starts every time quiet and powerful
Awesome James!
You did push me the Suzuki direction as a result of you comparison reviews
Hello. Just re powered to a 2022 DF 140. Went from a Honda 90 to the 140. Still in break in period, under 10 hours but over 4 or so. My set up from dealer non existent! They basically matched the height of the 90 and threw on a prop and said I was good to go. Didn’t do any sea trials as I really wanted them to do this to make sure it’s right. I think I need more height. Haven’t had it wide open yet so can’t really comment on that. Motor is on a 18’ Hewescraft aluminum boat.
I bought the 250 SS after watching your videos. Its been great so far. Awesome hole shot and mid range power. Haven't really ran it wide open much but can easily get the mid 60's on a Nitro Z-9. The new water grip prop works great.
Andy…Do you have any experiences/feedback from putting a Suzuki 250SS on an older(2018) Ranger 620fs….looking to repower from a G2 250HO.
That should be a kick ass setup Ian !!
how hard would it be to add flyby wire to my 2019 200hp Suzuki
Excelent
Buddy is running a 250ss on a 1999 tr-21 triton, just swapped to the new atlas hydraulic jack plate, it bent the old one rated for 300hp, loaded with poles, 36 altex runs 78-80 depending on conditions
WoW!! I have a 2001 TR-21 with original 250 XB….. May have me leaning to a Suzuki….
I both sold and setup Suzuki's and I run a 2019 200 on a 2002 Nitro. Setup is very much a science experiment and I still tinker with mine. Pontoons and tinners are no problem. I'm pretty sure I know what I have to do to get the most out of mine (a bravo and a hydraulic plate). I just have to bring myself to spend the money to do it. Right now - 25p Suzuki 3 blade, 3.75 below pad on a 10" slidemaster gets me just about 59mph before I hit the rev limiter. The boat is still picking up speed and lifting when it does.lol I know my boat hull is a turd and only adds to the puzzle, but man what a motor. Ive been out of the marine game since 2016 but we were selling a couple truck loads of zukes a year back then and almost never saw them back in the shop. The Bad? Suzuki only manufactures a predetermined amount of outboards per year and once they sell out- thats it. Buy them early as trying to find one midseason can sometimes be a chore. You dont often find blow out pricing on year ends and non-current Suzuki's.
it's good to see Toms' boat in the shop again lol
Suzuki people doesnt need to talk with anybody, because Suzuki Is best outboard ever , here in Argentina we already know this
What have you guys heard of Suzukis 4-4-2 program?.....can ya maybe do a video on it.....
I'm putting a new 30 HP on my rebuilt 16' SS StarCraft. It's been on back order for 3 months. I think they don't need more dealers. They have their hands full getting motors to Coastal Asia and Africa.
If owner permits could we get a follow up vid with that G love to see what it runs with it
What is the differance with the 150 and the 150ss ?
Great channel, please do a good, bad, ugly on your shop, or boat shops in general or boat dealers, thanks.
Have been watching your videos I
got a DF115 2022 love the motor starts every time. Bad news the dealer just slapped it on my seaswirl 175 went through the break in have 11 hours on it. I just got it out of the water been having problems getting it up on plane. Turns out the anticavation plate is 2-3 inches below transom. What hight should I set it at some say even with cavitation plate others say top edge of water inlet to bottom of keal ? I have had Johnson's most of my life I'am 72 now. Any help would be great can't get it over 34 mph with a 17 pitch at 5500. My 2003 115 was able to 48 mph Johnsom.
I always start with the cavitation plate even with the bottom. You can always try raising it until it starts blowing out. The less motor in the water is generally safer from hitting objects and less drag.
The old Exante....12 NGKs and DT 150 Bass. Late 90's early 2000s we had a ton of Commercial guys on the DT V6s and we rebuilt a ton of them. Would love to find a Cherry DT30 3 cylinder- best tiller jon boat engine I ever had.
I thought it was funny he had ZERO actual complaints about the DT v6 motors. he literally made no sense. I suspect he personally has no idea how they work , thus the outcome of what he said. the reality is those motors had a STELLER service record. so good, in fact, Suzuki doubled the warranty to an unheard of 3 years in 1987, just one year after introduction. ask yourself this: the same basic design remained virtually unchanged up to stop of production. thats a testament to the design, and is obviously the motor that allowed them to pursue 4 strokes. if they had been a failure, Suzuki would not be in the outboard business today. fact. 99% of issues were with the idiot owners. i bet your commercial guys got over 2500 hrs out of them easily.
Slowzuki i like em my next motor will definately be a slowzuki