Space Crusade BLOOD ANGELS Mission One Playthrough Battle Report | Let's Play an Old Board Game
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Always Board Never Boring is super excited to bring a playthrough of Space Crusade to the channel. In this first mission battle report, a hopelessly outnumbered tactical squad of Blood Angels enter a space hulk in hopes of hunting down a chaos dreadnought. Things go about as well as you might expect...
This is my first time playing the game in over 25 years, so there's every chance there are a few rules mistakes, but hopefully you all enjoy watching it as much as I enjoyed playing.
A few notes on the playthrough (minor spoilers ahead):
1. Yes, I make a tactical blunder leaving a space marine exposed in a corridor in the first turn. I should have used his two remaining movement points to hole up in one of the rooms.
2. Yes, I muller the pronunciation of Mekaniak twice. It was late. I was tired. And I'm stupid.
3. It's debatable whether I should have lost 5 or 10 points for the death of the assault cannon marine, because he was armed with only a bolter at the point he died. If it was only supposed to be 5 points, then my marines actually put in a "commendable" performance and I would have got one honour badge (requiring four to go up a rank).
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Played this game when I was a kid. Managed to get a complete copy on ebay and now I play it with my kids. They love this game!
It really stands up over time, and it's great to play with kids. I'm very pleased to have a copy back in my collection. Thanks for checking out the video, I'm glad to hear you're introducing this game to a new generation!
The pleasure was all mine mate, really enjoyed the play through, looking forward to your next mission 😉🙂
I'm so grateful. This was amazingly good fun to shoot. I hope people want to see more because I would like to run the same mission with each of the chapters to show off some differences in how they operate. (You know, if they live past the first turn, I mean.)
Now that would be very interesting to see, I wonder which chapter would come out on top 🤔🤷♂️🙂
My guess would be the Ultramarines, but the Imperial Fists would be more fun to play.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring - "I hope people want to see more" - Definitely.
I have taken note that quite a few people seem to want to see a bit more of this, so I am sure I can make that happen. Thanks for the feedback.
Those magnets on the weapons are the most obvious yet impressive thing I've seen in this game. Those snapping off were always a pain.
Thanks. I thought it was worth doing as I remember pegs snapping on my original copy. I have a video on how I did it on my channel.
I couldnt help but laugh at "come on just a 1 will do" after all those 0's and then the die comes up....0. I felt that pain.
My luck summed up in a single dice roll. The number of whiffs my commander made with five dice was unbelievable.
OMG space crusade, my childhood pre 40k. Got this for Christmas when I was probably 5 or 6. Thanks for the memories mate this is awesome
Thanks for watching. I'm happy to have brought back some happy memories for you. I have plenty more Space Crusade to come on the channel.
A fantastic Space Crusade video, I really enjoyed this thank you very much. I had Space Crusade when I was younger but never got to play it properly. This is the best Space Crusade play through I have found can't wait until the next mission!
That's great; I'm so pleased you liked the video, and thank you so much for such high praise. Next time I get a chance, I'm going to put one of the other squads through their paces. See if we can't do a little better.
I love the genuine tone of excitement in your voice as you introduce this video. You're just a tick away from a genuine squeal. XD
It was the first time I had the whole game set up since receiving it, and yeah, I was more than a little excited about it.
Cannot get enough of your channel, I'm finding it as my first pick now for hobby gaming. Love your videos on Space Crusade, Rangers of Shadow Deep and HeroQuest!
That's really high praise. Thank you so much, I really appreciate it.
Absolute kino.
I'm doing a model overhaul on my copy, with Mark 3 marines with boarding shields for Fists, Mark 4 Apothacary for Blood Angels etc, etc, while I paint up and put the original models on display.
It's an absolute classic game in every sense of the word, along with Space Hulk easily among the best board games GW's ever produced.
Yeah, Space Crusade is awesome. I was so excited it get it back into my collection recently, and it's still so much fun.
A wonderful bit of nostalgia. Thanks for sharing!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Absolutely loved this!!! I played this for hours as a kid! What a game! Nice one mate.
Me too. It’s such a great game. Thanks for watching the video.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I found your channel at the right time it seems, as I brought heroquest a few weeks ago as I never had it as a kid but I remember playing it around a friend's and loved it. In fact I wanted it for Christmas one year and I got space crusade instead! Now I have both, so happy days! This video reminded me of how great space crusade is! Who would have thought that watching someone play 1 player SC would be so enjoyable! Roll on the next mission! I'm also looking forward to the painting tutorials. Really enjoy your content and easy to follow painting vids. Cheers.
@@wanntime1894 Well I'm very glad you found the channel, and I'm happy to hear you've got copies of two of the coolest board games ever!
Thank you for this, takes me back to when i was a kid. I even forgot the name of the game, i remember it being space....something, now i know. Memories came rushing back :). Thx for the trip down memory lane.
Thanks for checking out the video; I'm glad you liked it. Memory Lane has all the best stuff in it.
Thank you. I haven't laughed so much with bad rolling for quite some time, makes me feel so much like dice aren't just against me! Great play through :D
The failure to kill the genestealer after rolling three red dice and two white needing just one point will haunt my dreams. It was great fun though. Thanks for watching.
None of my mates were ever interested in playing this with me, too complex for them I think. So I always had to go solo like you just did. I feel your pain at the unforgiving scaling!
Ha. Yes, it's definitely a game designed for a full table. The Eldar Attack expansion really helps to resolve the issue of not having enough marines... not that it means I do any better with them!
Enjoyed it while painting some of my 40k miniatures. Took me back to my childhood! Would love to see more of this and the painting videos. :)
Thanks for watching. I really enjoyed this and will be doing some more playthroughs. Painting guides will come once I finish HeroQuest, but there is a magnetising video on the way soon.
A great trip down memory lane, thank you! I always wondered why the greenskins, chaos, tyranids and proto-necrons worked together in this game.
Greenskins back then just teamed up with whoever they needed to to achieve their goals. The androids are actually chaos androids - robots with demons trapped inside them - and the genestealers aren’t actually part of the chaos force. The stealers are just hiding in the space hulk that the chaos forces have commandeered. Thanks for watching.
That's why I acquired three boxes, so I can make missions with single faction enemies 😊
A day in the life of a Space Marine... or, at least, of one of those me and my friends used to command back in the day as we were kids. You made me want to dig up my copy again, by the way, and I plan on doing a solo/co-op playthrough soon - thank you!
Glad I encouraged you to dig out this old classic. It's well worth getting to the table.
Really enjoyed this, thank you. Nothing beats Space Crusade... Well, apart from Space Hulk :D Your channel is packed with quality, genuine and informative content. Looking forward to more missions.
Thank you for the kind words, that really means a lot. I'm going to try to shoot a video this weekend to see how one of the other chapters gets on. They can't do any worse, really. Might even get some Space Hulk on the channel at some point. It seems only fair.
A Devastator is a Space Marine who fulfills a fire support role. Basically any heavy weapon, heavy bolter, missile launcher, lascannon, plasma cannon, multi-melta, etc.
That was not the case when this game came out. I did a whole video on this subject.
Great work - and well made...must have taken a lot of work to edit.
Thank you. Playthroughs take a while to put together. There’s usually a lot of pausing, thinking and me tripping over my own tongue to cut out!
Well narrated! Thanks for the fun and enthusiasm-fueled adventure.
Thank you so much. I'm glad you liked it.
Brilliant, I love Space Crusade! I see one disgruntled alien commander has given you a thumbs down. One of the things I enjoy most about it is how well visually designed everything is. I love that the cards have colourful flavour on one side which gives you an idea of when to use them. Then you flip them over for what would in most games be the dull mechanics, and you get the most amazing little piece of action packed artwork on that side too! Great design given the intended younger audience - giving them little strategic pointers like that. And the manuals are full of gorgeous, dynamic and quintessentially 90s GW comic book artwork. I was so pleased to grab a lovely condition one from eBay last year. I had the lot as a youngster, Eldar Attack, Mission Dreadnought, but when I got back from uni they'd all gone :(
We've found the person who clearly wasn't pumped, and definitely doesn't lift. It's in my character to focus too much on downvotes. I can get dozens of upvotes, but when I get a downvote I fixate on that instead, wondering whether it was a bad video, something I did wrong in the presentation, if the video was too long, or someone found my voice too annoying. Was it something I could "fix" for next time. It comes from having anxiety, and I'm trying very hard to not do that anymore and to keep telling myself that life's a garden party and people dislike things for reasons that are entirely their own and beyond your power to do anything about. Phew. That was a bit heavy. I should go get my morning coffee...
Space Crusade is a wonderful presentation, packed with so much evocative art, and it just looks and feels so exciting. When this turned up in the post when I was a kid my excitement was through the roof. My original copy went during the purge, when I sold all my games and miniatures before university. It was a bad move. I'm glad to hear you managed to get a copy for yourself. I would love to get Eldar Attack as I've actually never played it!
Nah, bollocks to wasting energy on that. Your channel's ace, as evidenced by the subs slowly but surely ticking ever upwards. Although your dice rolling definitely has room for improvement.
It certainly gets easier as the subscriber number climbs and more awesome people like the videos and leave nice comments. My dice have had a stern talking to, and as I have two sets of Space Crusade dice they know I'm not bluffing when I say I will relegate them if they don't improve next time.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I set this up myself today and had a bash at the first mission and I take it all back. I've never rolled so many zeros in my life. These dice are nuts.
@@soob99 It can be crazy brutal sometimes. It feels like every dice is just six zeros.
Great video, thanks! Can't wait for the magnet video - I want to pimp my (just painted) set!
Thanks. That video should be going up this week, so I hope you find it useful.
Brutal first game, my first experience with warhammer watching my dad and uncle play this when they were about 15 years younger then I am now haha..I got the box from my dad but sadly it didn't survive my mother's cleaning up one day ha.. I would love a re-release!
Thanks for watching. There are even more brutal playthroughs than this one on the channel!
Thank you very much for this battle report. It was very nice to follow and brings back so many memories. I wish I still had my old copy of this game 😢
I really hope you will make other battle reports of this one ! Better luck next time with dice rolls hopefully. 🤞
I’m hoping to do some more. This one was so much fun to do.
It was great to hear the genuine excitement in your voice - it really was taking you back all those years. Very enjoyable playthrough, would definitely like to see more. It does seem a bit harsh for one squad to take on the same enemies as a full three squads would do. That first alien turn was brutal!
Looking at it now I don't see why I didn't like this game more, as it has quite a few elements from the future Space Hulk in it, but for some reason it didn't hit the spot, despite being a massive fan of early GW board games.
It was so good to be playing this again after so long. The way points are allocated is supposed to offset the disadvantage somewhat (really the alien player only wins if they wipe out the entire squad while the marines get "access" to a steady stream of points, and really the ultimate goal is to reach the fifth rank, regardless of which missions you win), but it definitely swings the difficulty considerably in the marines' favour when there are more squads in play and they help each other out a bit. It's also really necessary for the alien player to have a "gentleman's agreement" and not do anything like drop all 32 blips on the first board.
The original Space Hulk came out in 1989 while Space Crusade was 1990 and was a more accessible option for children. Both are excellent games that I love. I only have the third edition of Space Hulk, which is beautiful, but it would be nice to have a vintage 1989 copy as well. I also wouldn't mind having a second edition copy, which did come out long after Space Crusade. I could fill my house with all this vintage stuff if only I had deeper pockets!
I thought Space Crusade came out first for some reason, but I didn't look it up. I have a 1st edition Space Hulk with Deathwing and Genestealer, and a 2nd edition, then I didn't bother with the next two - only so many times you can buy the same game. I will sell the 2nd edition one at some stage, because I don't really use it, and I like the retro look of 1st edition (and the rules are better, in my opinion).
The second edition rules for Space Hulk are certainly the weakest. Removing the timer was a poor call, for a start. Nice components though.
Just sat down to play this for the 1st time in nearly 30 years. Using your video for reference
Hope you have fun with it.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring if you happen to be near peterborough, you are more than welcome to join us for a playthrough
Rewatching this because I’m going to dig my copy out to play this weekend. Love these walkthroughs.
Thanks so much for watching the videos.
And there was i thinking '7' was a lucky number (not according the the space marine results chart!!! Unlucly start on the first set of rooms, to lose as many as you did was a real bad roll streak. Great upload, really brought back a lot of nostalgia, I wasn't lucky enough to have Space Marine, my parents bought me Tyranid Attack instead which I coukd never work out the rules so didn't actually get to play.
The game has stood the test of time, a real masterpiece in a box. Thoroughly enjoyed your play through, more outings with hopefully better dice rolls would get my vote.
I can see that the restoration videos will be quite short in number, it looks in great shape, what a fab donation!
I think the first marine dying in the corridor was all my own fault. He could have hidden in a side room as he had movement points to spare. Other than that, my loses were just brutal bad luck, and towards the end my commander couldn't catch a break with zeros across the board on two different rolls.
As you say, this really is a masterpiece in my eyes. I'm so happy to have it back in my collection. The copy that was donated to the channel was missing a few bits, but another subscriber made a money donation which enabled me to buy the bits I was missing, and when it was all brought together it was in amazingly good shape so I am immensely lucky and grateful. The difference between this and the beaten up copy of HeroQuest I bought off eBay is night and day! It's mainly going to be a case of painting it up and fixing the box now that I've magnetised the miniatures.
Just played this mission with my lad (10) him as Blood Angels and Aliens. My Imperial Fists got slaughtered by the Dread and then his Blood Angel Sergeant ran up and rolled a 6 in Close Combat to the Dreads 2 utterly mincing it. Nice.
I'm glad to hear his Blood Angels had better luck than mine! A Blood Angel commander with a bionic arm and power sword is usually pretty unstoppable in close combat.
In germany this was sold with the name StarQuest - I guess since Hero Quest was selling well. Thanks for the video, brought back some lovely memories.
Yeah, I mentioned that in my previous Space Crusade video where I broke down the contents and talked a bit about different editions. It makes sense but it’s a very different game really. I’m happy to hear the video brought back some nice memories for you. Thanks for watching.
Yaaassss! Space Crusade! Great video, glad i found the channel - looking forward to watching HeroQuest vid next..
Thanks for checking out the videos. There’s more Space Crusade to come.
I remember picking this game up as a kid and the rules flew right over my head. In fact, the one time I managed to convince some friends to give it a shot, we just made our own rules.
As long as there were lots of laser noises and flicking over the miniatures I'm sure it was a good time.
Epic! Very clear and fun video. I just received the game yesterday and I feel now ready to blast monsters!
It’s an amazing game. I hope you have fun with it.
Loved this video. Was replaying the Amiga version of Space Crusade and it made me nostalgic for the board game (which I had in my youth). Nice to see it in action again and really enjoyed the commentary.
Thanks for watching. Space Crusade is a favourite of mine. I've been really enjoying running through it again.
Very nice video and a great display of this awesome game 👍🏻
Thank you. I rate Space Crusade as one of my favourite games of all time. It's so much fun.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoringSame here, along with Hero Quest. Lots of childhood memories. I never had Space Crusade as a kid, though. I caught up on that a few years ago and bought three boxes, so I have more options when it comes to the board or enemy composition.
Excellent playthrough, very dramatic! Sometimes it's much more fun to put up a fight and lose than white wash the enemy.
Thanks for watching. As a narrative gamer I do tend to do things that are more in keeping with what the characters would do, even if it's not strategically sound. Also, to create more drama.
Just picked up a well priced copy to relive my youth - only problem is it’s almost mint. The cards and dice have never been opened and the Alien reference panel never bent.
I feel conflicted, but this thing is meant to be played!
A game as good as Space Crusade deserves to hit the table. I think you are going to have to bite the bullet and either use this one, or find another copy in played condition if you really want to preserve this one as it is.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring One step ahead of you - opened with reverence and the game got played for the first time in over 30yrs.
Very unusual degree of cooperation among orks, Genestealers, and the forces of Chaos.
So, the genestealers are just roaming the space hulk, that's why they turn up from random card pulls and don't grant victory points - the alien player has a little less control over them, and for the marines they are a distraction from their main goal. This game is from the Rogue Trader era, and it wasn't so uncommon for orks to align with chaos if it helped them achieve their goals. There is a section in the Rogue Trader lore about chaos orks, and how orks will work for or with chaos without being corrupted by it, especially if there is loot on the table. It seems to be something that has been removed from the newer lore, though.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoringBut you notice none of them nor these proto-necrons ever attack each other?
Loved this, I got the game a few years ago and it's great. I had hero quest as a kid but never this.
Two great games.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring how do you feel about the hero quest remake?
@@kinganimal9631 It's really good. I have done a huge amount of coverage on it on the channel.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring wonderful, il have a look. Thanks again for your work, its great to see your enthusiasm for this stuff
@@kinganimal9631 Thanks for watching. I'm glad you've been enjoying the videos.
It's crazy that the Commander has 5 hp and the marines have 1 but I guess there are cards to change that.
Picked my copy up recently looking forward to trying it out as haven't played the since the 90s
There are no cards to give the grunts more wounds. There are cards to make the commanders more resilient though, while some order cards can help to keep your team alive. Your commander is your staying power; your grunts are your tactical versatility and mobile weapon platforms. There squishiness is built into the balance of the game.
Lol this really took me back watching this. Your luck was exactly the same as I remember mine being when I played.
Thanks for watching. My space marines have the absolute worst luck.
You need to add the Space Hulk Tiles to this, and start letting Nids and Cultists run around in the hulk...
I do have the rules for adding genestealer cultists and tyranids. My next playthrough will be with terminators, though.
that android made me think of a Necron
Definitely.
Very enjoyable playthough. I was quite literally laughing out loud at your dice rolls. Horrendous. I would have shuffled the dreadnought in with one of the remaining blip stacks and then drawn three. That way there was a chance it'd show up but you wouldn't have known until it was revealed. :-o
That was my first idea but the stack with the dread in it would have been bigger, so I would have known exactly where he was anyway. Doing it the way I did reduced the chance of him showing up really early, and as blips were placed randomly I still wouldn’t know exactly where he was. My dice rolling was pretty much on form for me! Thanks for watching.
You seem to be pretty good at this game.....
It's funny howt he board looks like some floor tile obsessed interior-designer-skull went mad.
With dice rolling like that, how could I be bad?
Close combat is bad.
My commander clearly had a malfunctioning glove. There's a tech priest somewhere having a special talking to.
Maybe he was obsessing over his flawed gene seed?
my favorite board game
It's an amazing game. It finished second in my list of top 50 games ever.
That was a very well done Space Crusade mission report. Keep on going with more missions and please do some bolter drills till next time. Maybe some painted miniatures in the near future ?
Thank you. I am practicing my dice rolls in anticipation! I will be moving on to painting videos just as soon as I finish HeroQuest. Hopefully that wont't be too far off!
thank you for playing and posting i enjoyed it :)
please "POST MORE"
Thanks for watching. There are three playthroughs on the channel, plus a range of other videos about the game if you haven’t found them yet, and I am working on a playthrough using the rules for terminators.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring im going to check them out later for sure
Thanks so much. Space Crusade is a favourite so there should be lots more to come as well.
Nicely done!
What I wanna see played now is...
- Sedition War (with Solo-Rules)
- Endure the Stars 1.5
- The Undercity
- Dark World: Village of Fear (Solo is a possibility)
- Deep Madness (if Solo is possible)
- Machina Arcana / 3rd Edition
- Legions of Steel (if Solo is a thing)
- Mutant Chronicles: Siege of the Citadel (Solo possible?)
Thanks for watching. More Space Crusade to come!
Unfortunately, I don't have any of the games you mention in your list (I used to have Village of Fear, but not anymore). However, I have lots of plans for more playthroughs, including playthroughs for some classic games.
I grew up in the 80's and never got a chance to get into Space Crusade. I see now that was a loss. :(
The combat feels pretty brutal indeed! Very different from Heroquest.
I enjoyed your video - great work! Hopefully Hasbro may do a kickstarter to reboot this thing too. :)
I would love Hasbro to bring back Space Crusade; I think it's so good. However, as it never got a US release, they might feel it doesn't have a strong enough market.
Loved this game as a kid! I still have it lol
I still love it now. It's a fantastic game.
The devastator mistery was clarified in a 90's spanish White Dwarf. They declared it WAS a missile launcher IIRC
I did a whole video on this mystery - it was really fun to do, if a bit pointless. Everything points to it being a plasma gun, and some people have confirmed it's called a plasma gun in the French language edition.
So great game, thanks for the game play.
Thanks for watching. I always have a lot of fun with Space Crusade.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I have hard times find relatives or friends to play 😅
The Ork mekaniak is always a pain, if you look in the rule book page 12 Kanner is told to bring up the plasma gun, he is then mentioned on page 18 Kanner bring the devestator, so I always play the mekaniak as a plasma.
I did a whole video on this subject. Talking about the references in the story and the use of the word in general.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Yes I found it after my comment duh! I should have looked first! Love you work here.
@@davehann8178 Thanks for checking out the videos.
In the computer versions, you can close doors on the enemies when you get the Master Controls card, but evidently not here. I love slamming the door on the Dreadnaught and destroying it with ease.
I've heard of this game just recently. It seems to be a sister game to HeroQuest.
I would love to see new reprints of this game and Advanced Heroquest. I hope to see that in the future.
It's very different to HeroQuest. Same designer, same publisher, same involvement with GW (leaning much more into the 40K setting than HeroQuest leaned into the Old World setting), but it plays in a very different way, and everybody is competing to be the winner. Unfortunately, Avalon Hill have already addressed the idea of a reprint and indicated it wouldn't be something they would consider as the game is bound so heavily in the IP.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Yeah... Indeed, Space Crusade seems to be deeply connect to Warhammer.
Yet, that could be doable. Avalon Hill has the big opportunity to build a world for HeroQuest and a new Space Crusade could be the future of said world. I know it's easier said than done, but it's just to say that this could be a possibility.
I agree it's doable. I do think it would lose a lot separating it from the IP (HeroQuest was very generic, Space Crusade isn't), but it would still be a really fun game. It doesn't seem like it's something Avalon Hill want to pursue though. They did talk about Battle Masters though.
Really enjoyed this. Don't know why games workshop don't release a similar game again, just a squad of marines doing a boarding action on a ship/ space hulk. Could work with lots of different enemies- easily expandable.
They have made several games that sort of fall into that space, without ever quite being like Space Crusade. Labyrinth of the Necrons gave me strong Space Crusade vibes, although it was a much more compact and streamlined game. Blackstone Fortress feels like a tactical skirmish game with a squad of characters, and then there were title like Deathwatch: Overkill. Space Hulk is probably overdue for a reprint now, I guess.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Blackstone probably comes the closest, but still not the same. But I regret not getting deathwatch overkill when I had the chance- throw in a few genestealers and necrons and chaos marine or two -it would do alright.
Deathwatch Overkill is good, but it takes a while to get used to the spatial nature of the game. While Labyrinth of the Necrons plays completely differently to Space Crusade, there was something about the really streamlined rules, simple dice combat, item cards, and the coloured marines that really made it feel like a Space Crusade game.
Ah memories memories so much fun shame don’t have it anymore but great to see it played keep up the great work 😀👍
Thanks for watching. It is such a fun game. And really flipping deadly!
You can see where space hulk came from 👍
Let’s have more brilliant think this game deserves a re boot it is enormous fun 👍👍👍👍👍😀
@@peterbreakwell6575 Actually, Space Hulk was 1989 and Space Crusade was 1990, so Space Hulk is the real granddaddy. Both are exceptionally good games, and I should probably run a Space Hulk mission on the channel at some point as well. I can't see Space Crusade ever getting a reboot as it would involve Hasbro and GW working together, but it would be so cool to see this get a modern treatment. Thanks so much for watching!
That would be great
Literally: please more! I need to see a revenge :D
There are playthroughs on the channel for Ultramarines, Imperials Fists, and Blood Angel terminators. And more on the way!
I have this game still brand new I brought 2 copies back in 94 opened one and forgot about the other until I cleaned out my garage
Time to get it played. It's well worth it.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I’m thinking of selling it it’s worth a few bob on eBay
It is. They sell very well on eBay.
Thanks!
Thank you so much for the generous contribution. I really appreciate the support.
When re-rolling a dice for your commander, don't re- roll a red dice that has a number hoping for a better number, re roll a white dice in hopes of another number, unless the other red dice is a zero, then re- roll the red zero, it is a better gamble.
Damn you! Just bought a complete set from eBay. Time to get some msgnetd
I cannot accept any responsibilty for the awesomeness of Space Crusade. I hope you have a lot of fun with it.
thank you for this!
Thank you for watching!
About the devastator, I disagree with most peoples interpretation of them. "Devastators - Futuristic Battle Machines" was one of the original box sets that came out for Rogue Trader and contained three support weapons, the land speeder, the squat mole mortar, and the imperial tarantula. I think the devastator referred to in the fluff and on the ork cards refers to an ork combi weapon that has the same functions as the tarantula and then explodes. Unfortunately, the Space crusade tarantula rules were in the Mission Dreadnought expansion and so this card is a leftover from early drafts.
An actual combi weapon rule like in Rogue Traders 'Ere We Go, was likely overkill for Space Crusade purposes, so the tarantula twinned las cannon suffices. Ouch.
That sounds feasible, if they were intending to put tarantulas in the base game; although that would make the Mekaniak incredibly powerful. I happen to have the Mission Dreadnought rules book, and the tarantula fires three shots, each rolling two red dice. It would make sense to remove that from the base game! I really like the idea of letting the D6 decide what kind of crazy contraption the ork fires, though. It seems suitably orky.
I think it's that some dude at MB saw there was going to be a tarantula in the game and then saw the front image of the Devastators box assuming they were all just called Devastators.
I would probably let it fire two random heavy weapon shots, as that's closer to a combi weapon.
There are other instances of weird naming. In the original WD preview of the metal prototypes, the assault cannon is called an autocannon and it looks like the autocannons from the old epic warlords. Someone realized the 40k autocannon isn't the same thing. The plasma gun was going to be a flamer too.
Yeah I’ve seen those pictures of the metal miniatures with the flamer paint job. I guess another possibility is they were originally going to call the commander’s heavy bolter a devastator. It’s worth noting the space marines combi weapon doesn’t get to fire two heavy weapons. It’s either a heavy bolter or a plasma gun for each shot.
A combo weapon is not the same thing as a combi weapon.
Phone autocorrect. It’s a combi weapon and I corrected my previous post.
I used to play the old PC/Amega game - loved it... still do, but the graphics are so bad and its a bit sluggish. A remake of that game would be awesome. Love the levelling up system... and those dice rolls where brutal!
God I miss this game, well off to Ebay it is then!
It’s well worth tracking down. Good luck.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring just bid on a very good condition set. Also subbed to your channel on the back of this video alone, looking forward to binging more of your content.
Thanks so much for subscribing and I hope you win the lot. I’ve got quite a bit of Space Crusade stuff on the channel in its own playlist and there will be more playthroughs and painting guides to come.
This Game looks really fun and makes me wish I was born around the time it came out. Or that is isn’t worth so much $$$$ and had access to it now. Along with the other great Warhammer 40K old bored games :(((
Yeah, for me 1985 to around 1995 were the golden years for these sorts of games. I have many of the games from that period in my collection, and so many of them are still incredibly good fun. Thanks for watching.
That’s awesome. Been a fan of this Universe since play Dawn of War 1 when I was a kid. Then I got really deep into the lore for years. It’s only recently at the start of 9th edition that I started picking up Models. Now I find myself a collector of these awesome games. Definitely have to add Space Crusade to my “Maybe one day I’ll find a copy one day lol”. It’s so cool that you have stuff like this and treat it so well! Keep up the great work!
Thanks, and good luck with your collection!
I might’ve missed it but I thought you said two players? This can’t be played solo correct? Looks very cool.
It’s for two to four players. One player is supposed to be the alien. I fudged the rules for this playthrough by sorting blips randomly and randomly determining when the dreadnought turned up, but I still had to make “best choice” moves for the aliens. They aren’t driven by any kind of AI.
The Amiga version is Great,, the PC version is good too. Those are the versions I been playing for over 20 years.
Sorry, but I missed why the marines were able to move diagonally. Attacking yes (due to the equipment card), but moving? I used to play back in the 80s but don’t remember being able to move like that.
That's just how movement works. Diagonal movement is defined as legal in the rules.
I see. I must have missed that back in the days when I was 10 reading the rule book :D That is different to HeroQuest, I guess. Thanks for answering me.@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring
Thanks.
What is your view with Marine on Marine attacks be that Area of Effect or intentional in order to weaken another marine player?
Marines can certainly kill each other, but they don't get any points for it. They will still lose points for any losses as normal.
New to space crusade. A quick question, can marines from different factions engage in firefights in a four-player scenario?
Technically there is nothing stopping you. The only co-operation between players is when they make a deal, otherwise everyone is out for themselves. Friendly fire is a thing (you can blow up your own troops, or any other troops, with things like the plasma gun and missile launcher), but there is also no rule that forbids you from shooting at any miniature you like.
However, it's generally not worth doing. The alien player has a lot more troops than the marines, and a lot more tricks to play from event cards, so marines should usually be focusing on those threats. Space marines only get points for killing aliens - not for killing marines - but a marine player still loses points for every marine they lose. And at the end of each game, you have to work out your points and progress in the campaign. If the marines fight too much, they will give the alien player too many points and they will all lose as a result
in the first fight, the Ork rolled a 2 and the Super-Marine rolled a 3 , so the Ork has an Armor of 1 doesn´t that mean you had at least roll one more to defeat it? .. btw. very good video! at the moment i am trying to start to teach this to my children for playing :D
Armour isn't taken into account in hand to hand combat - you just compare dice rolls, and take damage equal to the difference.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring yes, i didnt read this, thanks. But in the German Rules, there is mentioned, that if one Soldier discovers a new Baseplate, the Movement has to stop, than the Blips are placed, and after that the Soldier continues with his move! So is there a difference to the english rules? because you alwasy did your full move with the soldier ...??
Eldar attack next !
There's already Eldar Attack coverage, including a playthrough, on the channel.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring ill look for it
I want to know how you magnetised the weapons. Great idea!
There's a video of it on my channel: ruclips.net/video/_Y16CYwWpag/видео.html
In normal play, does the alien player have to place the blips down blind from the allotted pool, or do they get to pick which specific blips get placed?
The alien player gets to choose, and also gets free choice of reinforcements when applicable. I just draw blind when soloing so I don't know what I'm going up against.
Can you do a playthrough with Mission Drednought?
I do have Missions Dreadnought and did an unboxing of it on the channel. At some point I will do a playthrough with it too.
Is it correct that there's no way for a standard bolter marine to damage the dreadnaught? Unless they get a lucky roll in hand to hand combat?
When shooting, bolters cap at 4 damage, which isn't enough to hurt the dread. In close combat you have a lot more options. A bolter marine with an assault blade, bolt pistol and meltabomb has a very good chance of ruining a dread in a single round of combat.
Shouldnt Out of ammo not result in hand-to-hand as all bolters have been used?
I see what you mean, but that rule is for if you physically don’t have a miniature available at the time. I had enough dead marines so I could grab a bolter, and the Mission Dreadnought expansion gives you more bolters as well.
what music are you using
Music is custom for the channel, by my good friend. Please consider checking out his bandcamp page at:
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more pls :D
Noted. Thanks for the feedback!
Now add Amiga music! lol
Ha. That would be cool, but you only get the original music of the awesome James Lloyd on my channel.
Thanks
Thank you for being the first person to use the Super Thanks button! I really appreciate the support; it means a lot.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring no worries at all Sir! Ive probably watched the video like half dozen times. Sorry it isn’t much.
are you carrying on through the missions?
People seem to want to see some more so I am going to do some more playthroughs. I was going to replay this mission with a different chapter, which means different weapon load outs, different equipment and orders, and a different access point to the map. I was going to run it once with each chapter to see which one comes out on top - settle an age old argument!
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring good idea
Those white dice must not be very balanced considering the amount of high rolls you got with them (to disgrace of your marines I must add :( )
Thanks for watching. I wish I could blame the dice, but the marines were rolling the same ones. My commander couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag in this game. Nothing really went my way.
I wanna get this and its expansions so bad but they are hard to find so ima print them and proxies for the ones that have no 3d model
I am lucky enough to have a complete set of the expansions. Good luck with the printing project. I am sure you will be able to find some close matches for everything.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring i have a photoscaned copy of the ork grot and android and small dreadnought and a 3d terrain and doors just need the rest of the minis and tokens cards and accessories and dice 😅
I love this game but you really need to play it with more people
Definitely. Obviously it was never intended for solo play (although I really enjoy playing it solo, and I tend to play a lot of games solo that aren't necessarily intended for it), and with fewer squads the difficulty spikes considerably. With one alien player facing off against three marine players, it gets really interesting. Thanks for watching.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I didn't explain my point very and I fully agree with your point. What I was commenting on was the difficulty level of only playing with one team of Marines, not on you solo playing. Great video series on a classic game from mine and I assume your childhood.
@@Stuffandstuff974 I agree. It's really tough with just one squad of marines.Taking on all of the bad guys and facing all of the events means there's a considerable spike in difficulty. The only good thing is there are relatively few points on the table for the alien player to score.
you cant move diagonally, first commander move is illegal!!, my bad, you can move diagonally i never knew that....
Perhaps you were thinking of HeroQuest? You can't move diagonally in that.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring good point, i probably never read the movement rules before as i assumed they were the same as HQ... goes to show.. instructions are there for a reason...
I NEED HELP.
Does the alien player get buffed at all the more marines play?
With 3 marine players its just a cake walk.
Am I missing anything?
The game is balanced on the assumption there will always be three squads of marines, so there is no additional balancing. But it shouldn't be a cake walk for the marines, especially not in later levels.
A few things to keep in mind:
The marine squads are competing. Only one player can "win" a level, so even if one marine player wins, two others don't. Divide and conquer.
Play for the points. Each marine kill is a big swing, because you gain points, and the marines lose points. For example, if you kill a heavy marine, you gain 10 points and that player loses 10 points. That's a +20 swing, and with more marines on the board there's a lot more swinging to be done. If you can force marines into very low or negative points, they die and lose their rank and honour badges, which gives you a bigger lead in the campaign. Remember, the aim isn't to win individual missions, it's to disrupt the marines to an extent that you become a Lord of Chaos before any of them become a Captain Senioris.
The alien player should also find it easier in later missions thanks to reinforcements that could potentially double the number of units they have to play, and also because as they progress they get extra event cards and reinforcements.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I must have missed the minus element of the marine death.
That makes a bit more sense.
Thanks for the update.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring does the minus apply to all.marones or just the squad who lost a member?
For example
Blood angels heavy weapon goes down to a gretchen.
Does just the blood angel loose 10 or does it apply to the ultra marines and imperial fists?
The different marine squads are competing. They all have their own separate scores and will go up and down the rankings in the campaign independently.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring cool. Thanks for the clarification.
Subbed.
Orks, tyranids, chaos and necrons working together? Not very lore friendly
Rogue Trader era. There are no Necrons in the game, they are chaos androids, and at the time this game came out orks would work with whoever furthered their goals. The genestealers aren’t part of the chaos force as such, they spawn from cards so although the chaos player controls them they are actually just supposed to be roaming around the space hulk.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring so they should attack the other forces as well really
It’s worked into the rules in a different way. The chaos player doesn’t have blips for the genestealers so has limited strategies for them, they cannot summon them on demand, and they don’t grant any victory points when killed. That’s the compromise for being a versus game with no AI for the enemies.
Out of this world? really man?
I am a dad. Dad jokes are inevitable.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring dude I've been making dad jokes since I was eight.
So. Much. Nothing.
The marines were not on top form.
Never played it but got a couple of the models from my brother. i did not like them that much (!) though as I just got the 2nd Ed starter Marines.... Which i think were better,
But i did like the "assault cannon" or whatever it was.
For me, it's one of the best game ever made. Few games could rival how good Space Crusade looked when it was set up and ready to go.
Good work mate. Can't wait for more tbh
Thanks. I would like to do some more, so hopefully that will happen.