I like this format. Easy to digest, the whole build is instantly displayed and accessible (I don't have to scroll and pause just to see the whole build).
This. Video. Is. THEE BEST!!! It may take longer but what the heck?! This is the most comphrehensive bow build guide ive seen, and i've watched a LOT of hours worth of bow builds.
I would suggest you to watch Retrou's vid on Attack Boost vs CritB for Rise for you further build videos. Your last Rakna set will benefit more with AttkB rather than Cb because its raw is below 180. You can test it and see for yourself. Other than that good job.
nah, i can't get atk 4 on rakna setup using the same skills. so, you're suggesting atk 2 + 1 cb would be more dmg? nope. not against the dummy where only raw is the main factor since cb/atk dont effect element. using speedrun buffs, the cb3 no atk would deal more dmg, which yes, i have tested this and saw for myself. atk got 103 - 128 to the head. the cb3 got 108 - 134. it has less atk, TILL you use buffs and stuff like herculean draw, which should be factored in a speedrun scenario. without them, sure, the atk one might edge out for casual play. Not even peak performance 3 can beat out cb3, which got 107 - 130 with everything up. granted, non-crits it'll edge out, but rakna build gets 100% crit after cat buffs soo, it'll lose based off rng, and the cb3 isn't conditional like peak. i look at numbers i see, not by data or equations too much. NOW, cammy 45 hitzone is only the head, so, technically, YES, the peak/atk setups may in fact do more overall dmg since wex shouldn't proc against those non-45 parts(like its tail), nullifying the critboost outside of cat/nat crit. that would have been a better argument for your case. to which even then, the peak is just the best route, least in multiplayer against cammy/almudron, but have to run at least 1 heal cat solo as healing with potions will be dps loss.
@@PWARGaming I was not expecting a reply let alone a detailed and thorough one therefore much appreciate you taking the time to respond. I was just pointing out that breakpoints do exist depending on true raw when it comes to attck7 vs cb3 setups and vice versa. I am quite certain you also are a fan of negokami and his runs, the guys batshit crazy with the weapon and from his setup against chammy you can see he ops for peak3 and attk2 instead of wex 3 and cb3 . I was only stating that with the rakna bow building for attack benefits more than cb. I suggested the vid because it didn't reach a wide audience, and I found the information shared valuable and thought it may have flew below your radar, and for someone that takes the time to do all the calcs for his build videos it would be helpful.
Nice video again! I’m new and been looking around for a Blast/status bow build for Rampages. Or even pros and cons of using Teostra, Magnamalo. Thanks to anyone with thoughts or resources! Looking forward to more of your builds!
I was doing some tests on the training dummy with this build. Having all fire attack decos with might seed, demon powder, and power coating on, I can do 124 damage on my shots. Removing all 5 fire decos drops my damage to 122. Only 2 damage difference. Removing 2 fire decos drops my damage to 123. A 1 damage difference. At that point, wouldn’t stam thief 3 with reload speed 2 be better than fire attack because of the negligible damage boost fire decos give?
I like the tigrex bow for general purpose because it doesn't need bcp and has exhaust/para/sleep which is great for party hunt. Not the fastest but the damage isn't terrible as long as you have a cat with the crit buff and use the support arrow.
Do you also have a showcase for the sets where you don't need the God-Talisman? Like what do You need at least, or am I missing it? Because I'm not willing to spend an unfathomable amount of time resetting for that thing
I melded a Con 3, Stamina Drain 1, 3-2-0 talisman the other day. rolling that felt like a mandatory obligation from the gods to pick up bow. I haven't played bow since mh3u and Im having a hard time keeping my aim on weak spots between dodging.
Am i just too stupid or is there still a water3 role on the bow and lightning as stats (2:45)? I never used rampage weapons and i might be totally wrong, thats why im asking ^^ Edit: nvm i guess its just me beeing to stupid. If i got it right you swap element depending on the fight
Best I have is a bubbly dance+2 normal up +2 which means I can get to wex-3, elemnt +3, con/surge +2 crisis+3 is that good for rapid rampage for now or do I use my con+3 1 lvl1 charm?
By any chance, do you guys know if the Scoomer Method still works or it's been updated to the point that it no longer exists? I would try it but I already filled my slots up by accident.
good point. either or i would say. the para would proc faster but usually still once a fight, and the heavy strike will contribute to faster ko and possibly 2-3 kos a fight alongside your A.powershot.
@@PWARGaming for me the Ultimate hunter experience is Playing with Light Bowgun and having 2 pet doggos. I'll switch between Vault or Maneuver depending on whether the gun I use has shrapnel ammo
I'd really like to get into bow more but I find it annyoing that all the good builds so heavily rely on Elements. If there was a 'one fits all' kind of thing I'd probably play the weapon a lot more than I do now. EDIT: Is the Chameleos Bow only viable for rampages or does it work at least decent for the Rest as well?
Hi there! The way bows work (like dual blades) means that you won't get the most damage out of them unless you build for element and use the right bow for the right kind of monster. Raw just doesn't compare in terms of damage. But there's one exception to this rule - Chammy's Raw Spread bow! From what I've read and studied, it manages to exceed Elemental spread in terms of damage. But Rapid and Pierce? No such luck. Bow is incredibly match-up dependent, so you do have to understand the monster, its hitzones, and which type of bow works best for it. But even if you do play with the Spread bow, you aren't seeing the 2 other types of bows, which will limit what you can do with the weapon. In fact, Spread is likely the weakest option of the 3 bow types at the time I write this. My recommendation? Give the Chammy bow a try with the understanding you're only seeing a small portion of what the bow has to offer. If you like what you see, keep going. Maybe you'll become obsessed like me and eventually have the full collection of Rampage Rapid and Pierce bows. Good luck!
@@its1027 thanks for the detailed answer man! I had tried to build a rampage bow around raw but wasn't getting any satisfying results with it. I'm going to try out the Chammy bow and see how that one holds up. Though it will probably never be my main weapon, the bow looks so fun to play in the hands of people who use it well and I wanted to get at least somewhat decent with it. Thanks again and happy hunting :)
@@SoundVillageChunin17 for each weapon you have forge/upgrade a total of 8 weapons of that type you dont need 8 separate weapons just a total of 8 forges/upgrades in total and that unlocks the second wire skill for every weapon
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What is the layered armor you are using? it looks sick as fuck
@@cammandoconcon5152 think zinogre helm, valstrax legs and arms, shel studded chest, and remobra belt, irrc
@@PWARGaming Thanks
I like this format. Easy to digest, the whole build is instantly displayed and accessible (I don't have to scroll and pause just to see the whole build).
This. Video. Is. THEE BEST!!! It may take longer but what the heck?! This is the most comphrehensive bow build guide ive seen, and i've watched a LOT of hours worth of bow builds.
Good timing. Was just looking at getting back into bow builds.
Been looking forward to this. Can wait for switch axe!
I love my swaxe but it doesn't look like it ever gets too op. It could be worse tho, like the gunlance
Hi I really like your layered armour you're using
What armour set is it?
I would suggest you to watch Retrou's vid on Attack Boost vs CritB for Rise for you further build videos. Your last Rakna set will benefit more with AttkB rather than Cb because its raw is below 180. You can test it and see for yourself. Other than that good job.
nah, i can't get atk 4 on rakna setup using the same skills. so, you're suggesting atk 2 + 1 cb would be more dmg? nope. not against the dummy where only raw is the main factor since cb/atk dont effect element. using speedrun buffs, the cb3 no atk would deal more dmg, which yes, i have tested this and saw for myself. atk got 103 - 128 to the head. the cb3 got 108 - 134. it has less atk, TILL you use buffs and stuff like herculean draw, which should be factored in a speedrun scenario. without them, sure, the atk one might edge out for casual play.
Not even peak performance 3 can beat out cb3, which got 107 - 130 with everything up. granted, non-crits it'll edge out, but rakna build gets 100% crit after cat buffs soo, it'll lose based off rng, and the cb3 isn't conditional like peak. i look at numbers i see, not by data or equations too much. NOW, cammy 45 hitzone is only the head, so, technically, YES, the peak/atk setups may in fact do more overall dmg since wex shouldn't proc against those non-45 parts(like its tail), nullifying the critboost outside of cat/nat crit. that would have been a better argument for your case. to which even then, the peak is just the best route, least in multiplayer against cammy/almudron, but have to run at least 1 heal cat solo as healing with potions will be dps loss.
@@PWARGaming I was not expecting a reply let alone a detailed and thorough one therefore much appreciate you taking the time to respond. I was just pointing out that breakpoints do exist depending on true raw when it comes to attck7 vs cb3 setups and vice versa.
I am quite certain you also are a fan of negokami and his runs, the guys batshit crazy with the weapon and from his setup against chammy you can see he ops for peak3 and attk2 instead of wex 3 and cb3 . I was only stating that with the rakna bow building for attack benefits more than cb.
I suggested the vid because it didn't reach a wide audience, and I found the information shared valuable and thought it may have flew below your radar, and for someone that takes the time to do all the calcs for his build videos it would be helpful.
You are the best rise content creator bro seriously keep it up 💯
thanks bro
6:10 is that really what the chameleos bow looks sheathed??
Amazing content. Any chance you can make a bow how to use guide? like control setup how to aim and etc?
Nice video again! I’m new and been looking around for a Blast/status bow build for Rampages. Or even pros and cons of using Teostra, Magnamalo. Thanks to anyone with thoughts or resources! Looking forward to more of your builds!
I was doing some tests on the training dummy with this build. Having all fire attack decos with might seed, demon powder, and power coating on, I can do 124 damage on my shots. Removing all 5 fire decos drops my damage to 122. Only 2 damage difference. Removing 2 fire decos drops my damage to 123. A 1 damage difference. At that point, wouldn’t stam thief 3 with reload speed 2 be better than fire attack because of the negligible damage boost fire decos give?
"for dragon-"
me: dragon deez nuts
also me: wtf is wrong with me
Great video! Which one of these builds would give the best all around if I did not have the time to make all the builds?
Did you get your talisman from wisp or rebirth? Also wouldn’t dango weakener be a better choice than the dango marksman?
see you guys on pc release. Thanks for the guide brotha!
Love the layered armor set btw. I'm gonna try it too.
Been waiting all week for you to put out bow and then the day I decided to try sword and shield you bring out your video 🤣 excited to watch it
LOL the shade at Rage @6:00
I like the tigrex bow for general purpose because it doesn't need bcp and has exhaust/para/sleep which is great for party hunt. Not the fastest but the damage isn't terrible as long as you have a cat with the crit buff and use the support arrow.
0:30 that’s the best part ;)
I got a rapid 2 lvl 2-1 and that allows me to use the valstrax braces and gem in attack 4 and elm 4. I run max stam surge and double palicoes.
I can't do a single one of these builds because I don't have the same talismans as you.
I was in class can't wait to try these:)
bookmarked... will take a look again later..., need to watch few times to digest all build hehe
Bow go brrrrrr
Hey, how are you finding/ farming your 3-2-0 decoration slots talismans ? Is it a certain melding process you're using ?
Is mizutsune's bow viable for rapid? I mean same stats as rampage +10% affinity, but everyone hated on it for some reason?
Ngl kinda wish Val's bow was better, still gonna use it for the fun of it
Almudron prepare your cheeks, long lookin'-
Actually, any bow build is OP right now!
What layered armors did you have on for the rampage set (blue one) and the layered armors to match the valstrax set? that red looks sick
which rampage skill are you using for Araknatorch bow?
bruh your character's drip game is o point
man i really hope pierce gets some more options i really love that shot type
I have a constitution 2, 3-2 charm 🥲 feels horrendous man
Do you also have a showcase for the sets where you don't need the God-Talisman? Like what do You need at least, or am I missing it?
Because I'm not willing to spend an unfathomable amount of time resetting for that thing
I melded a Con 3, Stamina Drain 1, 3-2-0 talisman the other day. rolling that felt like a mandatory obligation from the gods to pick up bow. I haven't played bow since mh3u and Im having a hard time keeping my aim on weak spots between dodging.
How many goats & virgins did you sacrifice to RNGesus to get that Con3+FFM 3-2 Charm? Best I have is a Con3+WW2 3-0 charm...
bout 3-4 hours of savescumming
@@PWARGaming Which melding method did you reroll on? Many thanks!
@@lleehs mystery
I was thinking if do you have only the video or maybe something like a Google doc or similar?
What rampage skills are in the rampage bow for the 3.0 build?
attack boost 4
God charmssss. I have a constitution lv2, evade window 2 1-1 and a const lv2 2-1 charm but not like yours
theres a quest that gives you a rare7 petalace that gives extra stam
Correct me if i am wrong. 3.0 build is more on non-apex monsters, while 2.0 build is more toward apex monsters?
Am i just too stupid or is there still a water3 role on the bow and lightning as stats (2:45)? I never used rampage weapons and i might be totally wrong, thats why im asking ^^
Edit: nvm i guess its just me beeing to stupid. If i got it right you swap element depending on the fight
Harajuku neon style😍
Hammer!
I always thought BOW is weak. But then I start using the affinity arc, omg, it can rack up to almost 300 dps.
gotta love the tekken music lol
Best I have is a bubbly dance+2 normal up +2 which means I can get to wex-3, elemnt +3, con/surge +2 crisis+3 is that good for rapid rampage for now or do I use my con+3 1 lvl1 charm?
I love your content but my gosh that anime girl is sooo wierd ^^
I agree
SAME!
What cat skill is giving crit?? Idk much about cat/dog skills
do these builds still apply to the current mhrise version
Is crit element a good stats to put in?
So should I drop spread bows for Rapid in most situations?
Hey could you drop your layered armor ? :)
i did everything like in the video but my stamina stays just like my life, i really need help... why don't i have as much stamina as in your video?:/
By any chance, do you guys know if the Scoomer Method still works or it's been updated to the point that it no longer exists? I would try it but I already filled my slots up by accident.
Ah yes. The swaxe I've been waiting for so long to find a good swaxe build.
I've been trying to find stuff related to SAxe why the heck has nobody mentioned SAxe yet jesus
5:02 i tryd that but.. Where is the dmg? It give me 40dmg at the 3th charge sooo where is the fking dmg? Is it a lie?
can someone explain why in 3.0 ramp build he has water attack but builds thunder decos?
Great bow vid. Also, What game is that background music from?
tekken 2 morning field
@@PWARGaming TY
which switch skills do I use with the bow?
Where did you go bro 😭
whats the xmog set?
What is that layered set
Question: how is it that bow can deal KO damage without exhaust coating on?
Through use of the Absolute Power Shot switch skill - it makes your power shots consume more stamina, but gives them Exhaust/KO values.
Why do you have thunder attack when the bow is water for 3.0..? I dont get that in the slightest
you can change the element of the rampage bow
Good news! I found eyes
Mbn to get that talisman I don't have any luck with that
Wouldn't Doggo Blitz Scroll be better so the Para procs faster?
good point. either or i would say. the para would proc faster but usually still once a fight, and the heavy strike will contribute to faster ko and possibly 2-3 kos a fight alongside your A.powershot.
@@PWARGaming for me the Ultimate hunter experience is Playing with Light Bowgun and having 2 pet doggos. I'll switch between Vault or Maneuver depending on whether the gun I use has shrapnel ammo
What layered armor pants are those
should be valstrax but just changed the color
I'd really like to get into bow more but I find it annyoing that all the good builds so heavily rely on Elements. If there was a 'one fits all' kind of thing I'd probably play the weapon a lot more than I do now.
EDIT: Is the Chameleos Bow only viable for rampages or does it work at least decent for the Rest as well?
Hi there! The way bows work (like dual blades) means that you won't get the most damage out of them unless you build for element and use the right bow for the right kind of monster. Raw just doesn't compare in terms of damage. But there's one exception to this rule - Chammy's Raw Spread bow! From what I've read and studied, it manages to exceed Elemental spread in terms of damage. But Rapid and Pierce? No such luck.
Bow is incredibly match-up dependent, so you do have to understand the monster, its hitzones, and which type of bow works best for it. But even if you do play with the Spread bow, you aren't seeing the 2 other types of bows, which will limit what you can do with the weapon. In fact, Spread is likely the weakest option of the 3 bow types at the time I write this.
My recommendation? Give the Chammy bow a try with the understanding you're only seeing a small portion of what the bow has to offer. If you like what you see, keep going. Maybe you'll become obsessed like me and eventually have the full collection of Rampage Rapid and Pierce bows. Good luck!
@@its1027 thanks for the detailed answer man! I had tried to build a rampage bow around raw but wasn't getting any satisfying results with it.
I'm going to try out the Chammy bow and see how that one holds up. Though it will probably never be my main weapon, the bow looks so fun to play in the hands of people who use it well and I wanted to get at least somewhat decent with it. Thanks again and happy hunting :)
don't have the talisman, sad
i wish weapon AR was scaled to the actual damage you where doing, since it just feels strange to have a 150 damage weapon hitting 30's and 50's
No more mhw content?
Can someone tell me when/how to get aerial shot?? I'm hr 7
Make/upgrade bows a total of 8 times I believe
If not its one of the missions that specifically say bow in the title
@@SephyClone7 is it bows or any weapons? I've seen a guide online that said upgrade or forge weapons 8 times
@@SoundVillageChunin17 for each weapon you have forge/upgrade a total of 8 weapons of that type
you dont need 8 separate weapons just a total of 8 forges/upgrades in total and that unlocks the second wire skill for every weapon
these are ok.
Monster Hunter Rise is my Game of Year. Hell even if BOTW2 releases I am keeping Rise my game of year
pretty early
early bird gets the worm ;)
Yeah just sub 2 MINUTE!! Rathalos hunt.
Aka ds J
;-; build a bow that doesn't need that stupid feather
It’s very foolish not to use it with bow
No one has that charm dude... Why do people show these builds with op charms.. no one has that.