The T-64 doesn't have an engine - it has a smoke generator to simulate an engine at the rear of the tank, but it's actually wind-powered. If you look closely you can see the three medium sails and one smaller sail either side of the tank (eight sails total).
Yeah, if you're lucky you'll just burn with damaged tracks and no parts of FPE, because you just bought the tank and took it out for its first spin. ;)
Check out BoTime Gaming and Bismarck. Bo and Co. are more aviation history but the series of pod casts they do are really worth a look. He collaborates quite a bit with Bismarck too. I'd love it if Jingles were invited along too :) Jingles in a ts/discord server with Bo, Moe and Cobey would be ficken hilarious
My favorite part: 20:40 Jingles: the T64 had a really complicated autoloader because like the chieftain its shells were made of 2 parts: the penetrator and the powder bag, but thats where the similarity end the chieftain was equipped with a mk1 British loader, with really big arms. :D
FireWarrior2013 "godly"... It has only about 350mm pen and not so great post pen effect. The 350mm may be enough to penetrate most armor in some cases, but it loses so much energy doing so, that one crew member or fuel tank etc. will eat all the damage. If you had something like 600 or 800mm penetration like in the case of raketenpanzers, then its quite godly, unless it misses most components/crew.
Hi Jingles the reason MBT-70s are using ATGMs is because the tank when stock only has HEAT and ATGM's available to it you have to grind it out to unlock Smoke rounds and its AP rounds.
Dear Jingles, I wrote this letter from the depth of salt mine during weekly 30 mins break time. I want to inform you that in ground force RB you don't see enemy marker in anyway but you will see a chevron marker if enemy ever get hit. Sincerely, Your honest salt miner and a WT player.
No, Jingles said markers are displayed when enemy vehicles get spotted. For much of Jingle's viewerbase that's misleading because he makes it sound as if it worked similar to WoT.
Jingles just uses video games as a back drop to teach history. Very sneaky but highly effective, I look forward to hearing your lectures at university.
You forgot to mention another advantage of an autoloader, as my father very nearly found out the hard way serving as a gunner in an M48. The bloody autoloader won't drop a 90mm high explosive shell inside the fighting compartment (there is actually a very interesting story behind it if anyone's interested).
No, the loader dropped the shell and it got stuck between the hull and the turret basket while my father (he was the gunner) was turning the turret and had the commander not screamed at the top of his lungs "STOP OR THE FUCKING TANK WILL BLOW UP" while kicking him so hard he almost broke his shoulder it might have.
Userext47 nah, it was all still a normal M60A1 under the hood, it just had a new turret, a 152mm gun, and a whole lot more tech that was top-of-the-line at the time. However, the tank was not very popular, not very effective, cost more to make each tank than the annual GDP of Rowanda, and didn't live to the hype, so not many were made. Further, most of the ones that were made were later updated to the M60A3 standard when that tank design was introduced.
This, 100% is the sort of content that has kept me returning year by year. Teaching and sharing the history and reasoning behind the hardware and equipment.
I know a guy who served as a tank driver, in the Royal Danish Army back during the later years of the cold war. He drove many armoured fighting vehicles. But his all-time favorite was - and will forever be - a heavily modified version of the Mk: 5 centurion. With the 1A5DK Leopard at a close second. As a bonus, he usually tells some quite fascinating and highly amusing stories of his time in the army.
The writers of the manual for MicroProse's original _M1 Tank Platoon_ singled out the T-64's ergonomics for specific mention in the "opposing force equipment you may encounter" section, describing it--paraphrasing slightly from very old memory--as "a fine tank for robotic dwarves, but a terrible one for human beings." (I believe, specifically, it's the one described as having an interior so cramped that the autoloader occasionally puts parts of the gunner into the cannon breech.)
Yaaaay! I'm on Jingles! I just want to say that I don't really like the spawn camping that is going on in WT and that I am really glad Gaijin has finally taken steps to prevent it. You might want to mention that in a video, Jingles :)
I really love how jingles actually makes the proper pronunciation for the word sabot most people wrongly pronounce it as (say bot) it is as jingles says properly (say bow)as a tanker it really push my Irish button
The reason I like Jingle's video is that he provides some historical information on weaponry, which sets him apart from all other reviews. And that iconic laughter!
One of my college professors was in the Red Army and he trained on T-64 model 1976s. He was on base when T-80 prototypes were being tested, although he never knew more than a prototype tank was on base and he saw them from time to time driving across the field. He left the Soviet Union in 1985 and eventually became a marine engineer.
Jingles you have a second career awaiting you as a lecturer on warfare and tanks, ships and aircraft! I enjoy your history talks more then the actual videos.
APCs(aka battle taxis) were designed to get troops to their destination under cover of armor then withdraw and were armed only for self defense. IFVs were intended to stick around and provide fire support to their troops, including dealing with bunkers and the occasional tank. BMP-1 was criticized specifically for its focus on the tank killer role, using a gun designed specifically to fire HEAT and ATGMs, it was found to be very inefficient against infantry and other light targets, which is why modern IFVs use an autocannon paired with a missile launcher
HEAT rounds also depend on the angle of impact. Both APFSDS and HEAT use the simple 1/COSIN(ANGLE USING RIGHT-ANGLES = 0) since the jet is not deflected to glance (rock of water surface), as are APDS/APCR and regular AP.APC. Those should (maybe not in this game) have somewhat less than the COSINE-rule increase up to 45 degrees, and much more above 45 degrees, with APDS/APCR having the worse effect at high angles (over 60 degrees), since they cause a lot of heat on impact and the molten metal causes the projectile to slide off like it hit water, while AP/APC is hitting so slowly that the metal remains solid, if deformable, and bends up in front of the shell at oblique impact, completely countering the push on the bottom of the shell that first hit the plate at the low angles, and causing somewhat less, but still some effect, in countering the glancing effect at high obliquity ("foot in the door" effect).
For those of you who don't know, enemy tanks have no makers what so ever in realistic. Only when they get shot by a main gun or a machine gun, will a temporary marker appear on the map and on the mini map marking their position.
Realistic battles the enemy is never shown in the hud and/or map unless fired upon. Once hit, an arrow will appear above the tank in the Hud (Note depending on the crew skills , that may be skewed a bit {up, down, left or right}), and on the map until the firing has stopped.
One day, when Jingles is older and his eyes won't let him play and his reflexes are even slower, he will replace David Fletcher in the Tank Museum xD Love it when you take your time to introduce us to a tank's history and all those details. Keep it up!
I really enjoy the history you give on this tank like you have done with world of warships, please do more of them! Also the graphics are really great in war thunder!
Jingles I fear you said something wrong. The East German NVA never had T-64s. The best tank the East Germans had were the T-72M. The T-64s deployed in the GDR belonged to the Soviet Forces in Germany. This tank was far to expensive and complicated to produce it in the numbers needed to supply all trustworthy Warsaw Pact states ;)
A lovely history lesson as always Jingles, btw the 5 opposed cylinder diesel used in the T-64 caused similar problems that the Layland L60 caused for the British. It just managed to not be as crappy as that engine though.
Actually Jingles, human loaders don't have as big a problem with exhaustion as you'd think; the slowdown in the rate of fire over time is mostly due to the stowage of the ammunition, i.e. the fact that the ready rack can only carry so many rounds. Therefore, as more rounds are fired and reloaded with no breaks to restock the various closer ammunition storages, the ammunition the loader would have to reach would become less and less accessible.
Jingles, you'll never see this, but in RB "spotting" means doing some damage to an enemy tank. If you don't get hit by enemy fire, you can do whatever you want and as long as you don't take enemy fire, you won't appear on the map. Enemies can however, call attention to your position by pinning the map.
Little shotgun moment: Jingles, MBT / KPZ-70 both only start with HEAT and ATGMs for their base shells. Both must unlock their APFSDS shell at tier 2 modification upgrade.
You can only see friendly markers , you can see an arrow pointing down an enemy tank once he got spotted , but it doesent follow him arround , it just pings his position when he got spotted
T-64B was the version fitted with ATGMs, also the enemies aren't "marked" when spotted in RB GF; maybe if you played the game you'd see this, then again maybe not...
On realistic battles, red enemy markers only show up on the map and a general arrow near where the enemy is on the battlefield when the tank is hit with a shot which does some damage
Actually, Jingles, in RB Ground Forces, there are no markers for enemy tanks, period. If a tank gets shot, it'll light up on the map, but there's no... Jingles? *BANG*
The MBT 70 and kpz70 both have ATMG as stock ammunition. They only have kinetic rounds very late in the tech tree. They're trying to grind through them I'm going to assume because it is a pain in the ass to do.
In my opinion, having a loader is better than an auto loader, because the autoloaders themselves are usually complicated contraptions, so it stands to face more technical issues than normal, it can also get damaged and be rendered useless in the battlefield, plus when you have a loader, you have an extra pair of hands to help the crew when outside of combat.
Looks like they forgot to include the negative part of having an auto-loader. The part that made all the crews hate serving on tanks with auto-loaders. It takes longer to do maintenance. It takes longer to fix stuff, like a track that has been shot off or simply broken off.
As always, I LOVE all the amazing info you provide on the history and development of things! Keep up the good work sir! Speaking of "sir", how do we nominate you to be knighted? You deserve it!
RB has no enemy markers anymore. For the better. Been that way for two years or so now. If you hit a tank a red chevron will pop up near him and it will ping his location on the mini map, but other than that no markers. You gotta use the ol' Mk.1 eyeball to spot and kill tanks.
sadly like the chieftan, the T-64s engine was a nightmare. more so due to the oposed piston arrangement. how does it work? 5 cylinders but 10 pistons. and it sounds like a pissed off Detroit. and by that i mean ear blistering RRRRRRREEEEE sound. should be renamed the kekistan battle wagon tbh...
Actually, you don't get markers for enemies in RB, not even after they've been hit and spotted. You get a little arrow in their general vicinity, but no "Shoot me here!" marker over their head.
wait , that doesn't make sense in a RUSSIAN game. Plus from what jingles said about the T-64 it had armor much ahead of it's time , so getting penetrated by an AA gun made in ww2 in a cold war era tank? wat
they are incredibly different games with incredibly different goals in terms of how they want their games to play. the only things in common at this point are that they are multiplayer arena games that focus on WW1-WW2 era stuff. WT is now venturing past that though
pro tip...We didnt go to war hoping to be balanced with the enemy, we went in to crush them. War by its very nature is unbalanced with each side leap frogging the other to try to seize the advantage.
I mean... not everyone has played Armored Warfare, so they might not know about the different types of armor and their varying effectiveness against different types of attacks. And, add on to it the fact that people usually like using the most easy-to-win button possible, it's no surprise they pick the missile instead of an AP round.
Actually jingles, the reason that smooth bore guns were developed was to improve the performance of HEAT ammo, not atgms. A spinning HEAT shell loses penetration due to the jet spinning appart. That why the British still use rifled guns, they use HESH in stead of HEAT
Actually Jingles there are no target markers in realistic battles only way to tell others of enemy presence is by ether shooting them with MGs or shells! Small arrow appears near their tank and it shows on mini map and you can ping the map too
Jingles when you start up a test drive you can set the time of day, the weather and also if it is arcade, realistic or sim. If you set your game to realistic it will show the stats for realistic in the garage too. :) just wanted to tell you because you said you could only play arcade when test.
There are no markers at all for enemy vehicles in Tank RB the only time a marker shows up is if the enemy tank gets shot but that only lasts a few seconds
JINGLES !!!! I MUST CORRECT U MARKERS IN GROUND RB ONLY POP UP ON THE MINIMAP IF THE TANK HAS BEEN HIT OR THERE IS A RED ARROW THAT POPS UP IF U ARE CLOSE ENOUGH AND SHOWS THE ESTIMATED POSITION OF THE ENEMY TANK
I have this series of books that were written in the late 80s, and because the T-64 wasn't exported, this series maintained the belief that the T-64 was actually a failure for reasons that weren't clear. Kind of interesting, I thought, considering it was actually the reverse, the thing was too good to export.
I noticed something today I hadn't before (to be fair, I've never looked before either). I scrolled down through about 300 comments to confirm this. The most repeated opening to a Jingles comment is, "Actually, Jingles". As many facts as Jingles passes along, corrections lead the way in comments. Hilarious.
You know, with ATGM's flying every which way and tank guns having a muzzle velocity of a railgun i feel suddenly nostalgic for Mechwarrior Online. Is it still a thing?
APFSDS "long rod penetrators" (10-15-caliber long (more?)) lose very little penetration with increasing range due to their very streamlined shape and extreme weight (tungsten-carbide or depleted uranium). APDS also loses less than AP/APC projectiles, also due to its high weight (same material as APFSDS, just shaped like a small-scale, but otherwise regular, uncapped AP projectile). APCR/HVAP is an APDS with the sabot not falling off, so the air drag is pretty bad, causing these projectiles to lose penetration with increasing range rather rapidly -- the reason APDS was created (no sabot after exiting the gun barrel). APC needs its cap when the nose of the projectile can shatter on the plate due to its high impact velocity in later guns (early guns had them due to their low penetration and the success of thin face-hardened armor against uncapped shells, just as in battleship side armor). However, at high obliquity angles, shatter impedes ricochet (no solid nose left to pull the projectile away from the plate if the nose material does glance off), so high-velocity uncapped AP projectiles became superior again against highly-sloped tank frontal armor later on. This is somewhat complicated, as you can see.
The further illustrate the point regarding the issue of KPZ70 and MBT70 tanks not firing the better APFSDS shell, which would have easily killed the T64 tank in a single kill. Here is my current service record with the KPZ70, followed by my acquired research points. I have a premium account by the way. 88 battles, 48 wins - 54.5% winrate 94 spawns, 81 deaths, 5 air kills, 115 ground kills - 1.48 K/D ratio, 1.06 spawns per match, 0.92 deaths per match. 671k silver eagles gained with the tank, approximately 1.45 million eagles spent on repairs. Assuming an average repair cost of 16500, it's currently at 17500 with my latest upgrades. So far i have unlocked 6 modules, after 88 battles and 94 spawns in the tank. First you need 2 in the first tree to even start unlocking the better ammo, then you get the Fire Prevention Equipment because the tank cost over 15 000 to repair. At which point you have unlocked 3 modules, without premium this would take you about 80-90 matches. Then you can get the better ammo, then you find out he gun is awfully inaccurate without the adjustment of fire module. So you can get the better ammo as 3rd upgrade, in practice it's not very useful prior to getting 4 upgrades and you really want the fire prevention equipment, so you need 5 upgrades to fire the ammo effectively. In practice, without premium account, talisman and without buying upgrades, you need to play some 160-180 matches with my score. Which may not be the best, but it's by no means awful and it has been going up as i'm unlocking modules and getting more familiar with the tank. The new T6 vehicles are little more than a cash grab scheme. Even with a premium account, it's very difficult to even pay for the repair costs, and even when you manage to save up a 1-3k per excellent match, one fuck up and you lose 17 000 silver in one match. Playing good, even with premiums is not good enough. 1-2 caps, 3-4 kills and a couple assists barely cut it in terms of silver if you manage to die at the end.
The commander doesn't load the ATGM on the BMP-1 the gunner does and he doesn't really have to get out of the turret either, and it's not just the ATGM that gives it the ability to fight tanks. The gun on the BMP-1 didn't even have HE when it was first introduced, only HEAT. So it certainly wasn't designed with fighting infantry at the top of the designers minds.
The T-64 doesn't have an engine - it has a smoke generator to simulate an engine at the rear of the tank, but it's actually wind-powered. If you look closely you can see the three medium sails and one smaller sail either side of the tank (eight sails total).
stijn3473 you are dumb
+stijn3473 great work
stijn3473 3 on the sides and 1 in the front and back...
The Anti-Heat flaps? Please tell me you're joking
No he is completely serious.
YOU GOT A HOLE IN YOUR LEFT....... shit this is ground forces nvm
Yeah, if you're lucky you'll just burn with damaged tracks and no parts of FPE, because you just bought the tank and took it out for its first spin. ;)
YOU GOT A HOLE IN YOUR LEFT TRACK
The track's been hit!
YOU GOT A HOLE IN YOUR LEFT WING!
I HAVE A LEFT WING? wait... I HAVE WINGS???
SirMan McDude u hev a hole in ur RIGHT armor plate sounds about right
I really-really love it when ypu talk about history of tanks, almost no other gaming youtubers do that!
Jaak Sootak Agreed
I've seen people do it, but not as masterfully as uncle Jingles. I could listen to him for hours. Oh wait, I already do that.
There is a youtuber named Matsimus gaming. He talks about thanks and all kinds of military stuff(mostly modern). you might like his channel.
Check out BoTime Gaming and Bismarck. Bo and Co. are more aviation history but the series of pod casts they do are really worth a look. He collaborates quite a bit with Bismarck too. I'd love it if Jingles were invited along too :) Jingles in a ts/discord server with Bo, Moe and Cobey would be ficken hilarious
But none with a voice as sexy as jingles! Haha. I enjoy history visualized but jingles speeches soothes the heart of its listener
My favorite part: 20:40
Jingles: the T64 had a really complicated autoloader because like the chieftain its shells were made of 2 parts: the penetrator and the powder bag, but thats where the similarity end the chieftain was equipped with a mk1 British loader, with really big arms.
:D
Hey Jingles
The ATGM spam from the MBT 70 is due to it being the stock ammo type.
Most people don't have the magic darts yet..
Ace Jetstream exactly. The 70s only have two choices of shaped charges. A shitty HEAT shell or the godly ATGM.
FireWarrior2013 "godly"... It has only about 350mm pen and not so great post pen effect. The 350mm may be enough to penetrate most armor in some cases, but it loses so much energy doing so, that one crew member or fuel tank etc. will eat all the damage. If you had something like 600 or 800mm penetration like in the case of raketenpanzers, then its quite godly, unless it misses most components/crew.
What? the atgm has 431 mm of pen at all ranges. What are you on?
Aleksi Nuutila You better check again...it has 431mm of pen.
Hi Jingles the reason MBT-70s are using ATGMs is because the tank when stock only has HEAT and ATGM's available to it you have to grind it out to unlock Smoke rounds and its AP rounds.
Jerome Chan AP what year are ya living!?
APFS-DS
Dear Jingles,
I wrote this letter from the depth of salt mine during weekly 30 mins break time.
I want to inform you that in ground force RB you don't see enemy marker in anyway but you will see a chevron marker if enemy ever get hit.
Sincerely,
Your honest salt miner and a WT player.
30 minutes! we only get 10 minutes on the lower gallery. Have to speak to Reg about this!
What is weekly break you speak of? Once per year, I am allowed to put down pick for two minutes to wipe brow. Then back to it for another year.
No, Jingles said markers are displayed when enemy vehicles get spotted. For much of Jingle's viewerbase that's misleading because he makes it sound as if it worked similar to WoT.
AFPSDS - Armour Fin Piercing Stabilised Discarding Sabot ... Oh Jingles
Devient Kage ahhaha
Exactly what i´ve been hearing for the entirety of the Video XD
I think it's easier for the brain to process to say "AFPSDS" than "APFSDS". Could be the case here. :)
I was about to say the same xD
Didn't' expect you to be here.
Jingles just uses video games as a back drop to teach history. Very sneaky but highly effective, I look forward to hearing your lectures at university.
SinsationalMike At university you can't make hilarious mistakes every lecture.
Jingles, the in period footage around the 8 min mark is SUPER COOL, more of that during the historical discussions please!
It's that bloody sea air and land combat game again!
I know! It does _all three!_
Not sea yet. At least for us salt mine plebs
You forgot to mention another advantage of an autoloader, as my father very nearly found out the hard way serving as a gunner in an M48. The bloody autoloader won't drop a 90mm high explosive shell inside the fighting compartment (there is actually a very interesting story behind it if anyone's interested).
if someone didn't lost a leg then im gonna be dissapointed
No legs were harmed during the making of that experience :(
What actually happened to the shell? Did it go off?
Onely one if it did he probably wouldn't have been born to tell you about it...
No, the loader dropped the shell and it got stuck between the hull and the turret basket while my father (he was the gunner) was turning the turret and had the commander not screamed at the top of his lungs "STOP OR THE FUCKING TANK WILL BLOW UP" while kicking him so hard he almost broke his shoulder it might have.
T-64A cant fire ATGMs.Later variant T-64B can fire,but A didnt have targeting system to aim ATGM.
BUT COMRADE, WHEN FIRING ATGM FROM TENK YOU NO NEED TARGETING SYSTEM AS THE HEND OF STALIN GUIDES ALL.... TO THE GULAG....
WHY DO YOU FAIL TO INCLUDE THE MANDATORY "Actually Jingles"!?
Came here to say this ^ he forgot the ' Welll, ACT-CU-LEEEY Jingles'
Mr Maybach, 'The Hand of Khrushchev' you meant komrad?, ..Stalins been dead more than a few years when the T-64 entered service.
Razor1uk No need, Stalin's hand will rise from the depths of hell to guide your ATGM.
They stepped over the Smoothbore ATGM firing guns a while ago, M551 Sheridan and M60A2 Starship
Wasn't the M81E1 on those tanks rifled?
isn't starship a nuclear tank model though?
those both have rifled guns. but the t-62 was the first smooth bore in the game IIRC.
Oh right, that's true
Userext47 nah, it was all still a normal M60A1 under the hood, it just had a new turret, a 152mm gun, and a whole lot more tech that was top-of-the-line at the time. However, the tank was not very popular, not very effective, cost more to make each tank than the annual GDP of Rowanda, and didn't live to the hype, so not many were made. Further, most of the ones that were made were later updated to the M60A3 standard when that tank design was introduced.
Actually Jingles the reason that there is a "ATGM spam" is because not many people have the APFSDS shells on the mbt/kpz tanks yet
This, 100% is the sort of content that has kept me returning year by year. Teaching and sharing the history and reasoning behind the hardware and equipment.
I know a guy who served as a tank driver, in the Royal Danish Army back during the later years of the cold war.
He drove many armoured fighting vehicles. But his all-time favorite was - and will forever be - a heavily modified version of the Mk: 5 centurion. With the 1A5DK Leopard at a close second.
As a bonus, he usually tells some quite fascinating and highly amusing stories of his time in the army.
I've been watching your channel for a few years now Jingles, and your informative tank spotlight videos are always some of my favorites
Watching your videos about tank history is for me like sitting on a seminar in the University...but 1000x times enjoyable.
I could listen to you talk about tank history all day Jingles!
The writers of the manual for MicroProse's original _M1 Tank Platoon_ singled out the T-64's ergonomics for specific mention in the "opposing force equipment you may encounter" section, describing it--paraphrasing slightly from very old memory--as "a fine tank for robotic dwarves, but a terrible one for human beings." (I believe, specifically, it's the one described as having an interior so cramped that the autoloader occasionally puts parts of the gunner into the cannon breech.)
Yaaaay! I'm on Jingles!
I just want to say that I don't really like the spawn camping that is going on in WT and that I am really glad Gaijin has finally taken steps to prevent it. You might want to mention that in a video, Jingles :)
I really love how jingles actually makes the proper pronunciation for the word sabot most people wrongly pronounce it as (say bot) it is as jingles says properly (say bow)as a tanker it really push my Irish button
The reason I like Jingle's video is that he provides some historical information on weaponry, which sets him apart from all other reviews. And that iconic laughter!
One of my college professors was in the Red Army and he trained on T-64 model 1976s. He was on base when T-80 prototypes were being tested, although he never knew more than a prototype tank was on base and he saw them from time to time driving across the field. He left the Soviet Union in 1985 and eventually became a marine engineer.
Love the info you provide during these videos. Very entertaining as well as informative.
Jingles you have a second career awaiting you as a lecturer on warfare and tanks, ships and aircraft! I enjoy your history talks more then the actual videos.
APCs(aka battle taxis) were designed to get troops to their destination under cover of armor then withdraw and were armed only for self defense. IFVs were intended to stick around and provide fire support to their troops, including dealing with bunkers and the occasional tank. BMP-1 was criticized specifically for its focus on the tank killer role, using a gun designed specifically to fire HEAT and ATGMs, it was found to be very inefficient against infantry and other light targets, which is why modern IFVs use an autocannon paired with a missile launcher
Good video Jingles. Would definitely like to see more War Thunder content in the future. Keep up the good work!
Will we see that bmp-1 replay jingles?
HEAT rounds also depend on the angle of impact. Both APFSDS and HEAT use the simple 1/COSIN(ANGLE USING RIGHT-ANGLES = 0) since the jet is not deflected to glance (rock of water surface), as are APDS/APCR and regular AP.APC. Those should (maybe not in this game) have somewhat less than the COSINE-rule increase up to 45 degrees, and much more above 45 degrees, with APDS/APCR having the worse effect at high angles (over 60 degrees), since they cause a lot of heat on impact and the molten metal causes the projectile to slide off like it hit water, while AP/APC is hitting so slowly that the metal remains solid, if deformable, and bends up in front of the shell at oblique impact, completely countering the push on the bottom of the shell that first hit the plate at the low angles, and causing somewhat less, but still some effect, in countering the glancing effect at high obliquity ("foot in the door" effect).
For those of you who don't know, enemy tanks have no makers what so ever in realistic. Only when they get shot by a main gun or a machine gun, will a temporary marker appear on the map and on the mini map marking their position.
Realistic battles the enemy is never shown in the hud and/or map unless fired upon. Once hit, an arrow will appear above the tank in the Hud (Note depending on the crew skills , that may be skewed a bit {up, down, left or right}), and on the map until the firing has stopped.
Been waiting impatiently for my daily dose of jingles. The withdrawals really suck 😞
One day, when Jingles is older and his eyes won't let him play and his reflexes are even slower, he will replace David Fletcher in the Tank Museum xD
Love it when you take your time to introduce us to a tank's history and all those details. Keep it up!
I really enjoy the history you give on this tank like you have done with world of warships, please do more of them! Also the graphics are really great in war thunder!
you can hover on the ammo in replay or in a match and you will get the stats on the ammo right up
Jingles I fear you said something wrong. The East German NVA never had T-64s. The best tank the East Germans had were the T-72M.
The T-64s deployed in the GDR belonged to the Soviet Forces in Germany.
This tank was far to expensive and complicated to produce it in the numbers needed to supply all trustworthy Warsaw Pact states ;)
I am very thankful for this video, there is no one like the jingles one ! :)
A lovely history lesson as always Jingles, btw the 5 opposed cylinder diesel used in the T-64 caused similar problems that the Layland L60 caused for the British. It just managed to not be as crappy as that engine though.
Actually Jingles, human loaders don't have as big a problem with exhaustion as you'd think; the slowdown in the rate of fire over time is mostly due to the stowage of the ammunition, i.e. the fact that the ready rack can only carry so many rounds. Therefore, as more rounds are fired and reloaded with no breaks to restock the various closer ammunition storages, the ammunition the loader would have to reach would become less and less accessible.
Jingles, you'll never see this, but in RB "spotting" means doing some damage to an enemy tank. If you don't get hit by enemy fire, you can do whatever you want and as long as you don't take enemy fire, you won't appear on the map. Enemies can however, call attention to your position by pinning the map.
Little shotgun moment:
Jingles, MBT / KPZ-70 both only start with HEAT and ATGMs for their base shells. Both must unlock their APFSDS shell at tier 2 modification upgrade.
Forget the video. What a fantastic advert, well done.
You can only see friendly markers , you can see an arrow pointing down an enemy tank once he got spotted , but it doesent follow him arround , it just pings his position when he got spotted
T-64B was the version fitted with ATGMs, also the enemies aren't "marked" when spotted in RB GF; maybe if you played the game you'd see this, then again maybe not...
22:15 *doubt intensifies* looking at the 3-3,5 sec reload of the Strv 103's Autoloader.
14:31 - Yea, the good old "Armour-Fin Piercing-Stablized Discarding-Sabot"-Ammunition :D
On realistic battles, red enemy markers only show up on the map and a general arrow near where the enemy is on the battlefield when the tank is hit with a shot which does some damage
Jingles The kpz 70 is in world of tanks blitz. Along with a t49a, we which fires guided anti-tank missiles.
Actually, Jingles, in RB Ground Forces, there are no markers for enemy tanks, period. If a tank gets shot, it'll light up on the map, but there's no... Jingles?
*BANG*
Jingles uploads WarThunder video,
WoT ad plays in the beggining.
Seems legit!!!
The MBT 70 and kpz70 both have ATMG as stock ammunition. They only have kinetic rounds very late in the tech tree. They're trying to grind through them I'm going to assume because it is a pain in the ass to do.
In my opinion, having a loader is better than an auto loader, because the autoloaders themselves are usually complicated contraptions, so it stands to face more technical issues than normal, it can also get damaged and be rendered useless in the battlefield, plus when you have a loader, you have an extra pair of hands to help the crew when outside of combat.
Youre back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Missed u bud!!!!!
Should be noted that once cassette loaders ran out of rounds, and had to be loaded for storage, it took quite a while.
Oh please, do an MBT 70 history video Jingles....
Jingles, the T-64A, while entirely capable of _shooting_ the ATGM - was not capable of guiding it. That came with T-64B.
Bloody hell jingles of course the MBTs and KPZs are spamming ATGMs because that is the stock round!
Jingles I'll support ya through your WoT transition mate. WT WT WT WT! come on boys WT WT WT WT!
Actually Jingles, it's APFSDS (Armour-piercing fin-stabilised discarding sabot, as you would know), not AFPSDS
Looks like they forgot to include the negative part of having an auto-loader. The part that made all the crews hate serving on tanks with auto-loaders. It takes longer to do maintenance. It takes longer to fix stuff, like a track that has been shot off or simply broken off.
As always, I LOVE all the amazing info you provide on the history and development of things! Keep up the good work sir! Speaking of "sir", how do we nominate you to be knighted? You deserve it!
Jingles history lessons are so relaxing
RB has no enemy markers anymore. For the better. Been that way for two years or so now. If you hit a tank a red chevron will pop up near him and it will ping his location on the mini map, but other than that no markers. You gotta use the ol' Mk.1 eyeball to spot and kill tanks.
18:43-19:43
*The power of Stalin is infused directly into the engine.*
sadly like the chieftan, the T-64s engine was a nightmare. more so due to the oposed piston arrangement. how does it work? 5 cylinders but 10 pistons. and it sounds like a pissed off Detroit. and by that i mean ear blistering RRRRRRREEEEE sound. should be renamed the kekistan battle wagon tbh...
Kekistan approves.
12:30 actually jingles, in rb enemy tanks never have visible markers, but they get arrows above them for 5 seconds when they are hit
jingles?
Jingles, you can just Hover with your mouse over the Ammo-Icon and see what it is
Actually, you don't get markers for enemies in RB, not even after they've been hit and spotted. You get a little arrow in their general vicinity, but no "Shoot me here!" marker over their head.
I love that there's an epic intro then,"Howdy folks."
I've killed 2 T64A's with a Wirbelwind, Yup a Wirbelwind.
It's easy because not many people have FPE yet :P
wait , that doesn't make sense in a RUSSIAN game. Plus from what jingles said about the T-64 it had armor much ahead of it's time , so getting penetrated by an AA gun made in ww2 in a cold war era tank? wat
The rear and side armour can be penned with AA.
Mizakhell the side armors of many of these tanks are very thin.they can be penetrated with ACPR ammunition of the AA guns.
Only the frontal armour is composite armour. The rest of the tank is fair game as long as you have the penetration against steel.
Cold war tank design: almost invulnerable front armor and turret, god bless you if someone shot you anywhere else.
I came here because Jingles. I stayed here because Jingles turned this into history lesson :D
The M81 on the Sheridan and it's XM150 derivative on the MBT-70 are not smooth-bore guns.
Warthunder is light years ahead of wot ...it's past comparasion in my opinion.
Not in revenue, it isn't. :P
they are incredibly different games with incredibly different goals in terms of how they want their games to play. the only things in common at this point are that they are multiplayer arena games that focus on WW1-WW2 era stuff. WT is now venturing past that though
prototype not blueprints although we gave some that not even exist
They both suck, wot is a money grab at this point, and this game is so fucking unbalanced that most people gave up on it.
pro tip...We didnt go to war hoping to be balanced with the enemy, we went in to crush them. War by its very nature is unbalanced with each side leap frogging the other to try to seize the advantage.
I mean... not everyone has played Armored Warfare, so they might not know about the different types of armor and their varying effectiveness against different types of attacks.
And, add on to it the fact that people usually like using the most easy-to-win button possible, it's no surprise they pick the missile instead of an AP round.
Actually jingles, the reason that smooth bore guns were developed was to improve the performance of HEAT ammo, not atgms. A spinning HEAT shell loses penetration due to the jet spinning appart. That why the British still use rifled guns, they use HESH in stead of HEAT
Robert Bailey wish HESH worked in war thunder. Got nerfed hard.
I'm glad you're back into war thunder, can you do a video on something like the Churchill 7 because the armour is brilliant
I was starting to doze off but all that penetration talk woke me right up.
SirCobbins huh, huh, he said penetration huh, huh..
Actually Jingles there are no target markers in realistic battles only way to tell others of enemy presence is by ether shooting them with MGs or shells! Small arrow appears near their tank and it shows on mini map and you can ping the map too
or you just open the map and click on the position
fixed
Jingles when you start up a test drive you can set the time of day, the weather and also if it is arcade, realistic or sim. If you set your game to realistic it will show the stats for realistic in the garage too. :) just wanted to tell you because you said you could only play arcade when test.
Russian : "Hahaha! Your capitalist HEAT ammo can't penetrate my T-64."
British : "Load the HESH!"
HESH fail to penetrate the T64 also it been nerf
Hesh is just as innefective as heat against a t64.
Magni56 spaced armor also fucks with HESH, yeah?
"Load the HESH"
"Fails to pen composite"
Why does everybody think HESH is this godly allmighty round that kills everything lmao
Gotta love Jingles history lesson
There are no markers at all for enemy vehicles in Tank RB the only time a marker shows up is if the enemy tank gets shot but that only lasts a few seconds
The ATGM spam is because it is the stock ammo in the MBT-70/KPZ-70. The magic bullets need to be unlocked
ACTUALLY JINGLES!!! In realistic battles you NEVER see the enemys nametags.
So Jingles and War Thunder are friends again? 2:07 - The T-62 does have a smooth bore gun, 115mm.
When my dad was in the army he was the driver of a t64
on to victory towarisch!
What did he say about the tank?
Ammar Hasan he said it was the most revolutionary thank of its time
I really love the war thunder tank vids.
to be fair, the stock rounds for the mbt-70 is either HEAT or ATGMs. So I can see why people would pick the atgm to use
JINGLES !!!! I MUST CORRECT U
MARKERS IN GROUND RB ONLY POP UP ON THE MINIMAP IF THE TANK HAS BEEN HIT
OR THERE IS A RED ARROW THAT POPS UP IF U ARE CLOSE ENOUGH AND SHOWS THE ESTIMATED POSITION OF THE ENEMY TANK
wow GRASS. I haven't seen that in a war thunder youtube video in a while.
I have this series of books that were written in the late 80s, and because the T-64 wasn't exported, this series maintained the belief that the T-64 was actually a failure for reasons that weren't clear. Kind of interesting, I thought, considering it was actually the reverse, the thing was too good to export.
I noticed something today I hadn't before (to be fair, I've never looked before either). I scrolled down through about 300 comments to confirm this. The most repeated opening to a Jingles comment is, "Actually, Jingles". As many facts as Jingles passes along, corrections lead the way in comments. Hilarious.
You know, with ATGM's flying every which way and tank guns having a muzzle velocity of a railgun i feel suddenly nostalgic for Mechwarrior Online. Is it still a thing?
APFSDS "long rod penetrators" (10-15-caliber long (more?)) lose very little penetration with increasing range due to their very streamlined shape and extreme weight (tungsten-carbide or depleted uranium). APDS also loses less than AP/APC projectiles, also due to its high weight (same material as APFSDS, just shaped like a small-scale, but otherwise regular, uncapped AP projectile). APCR/HVAP is an APDS with the sabot not falling off, so the air drag is pretty bad, causing these projectiles to lose penetration with increasing range rather rapidly -- the reason APDS was created (no sabot after exiting the gun barrel). APC needs its cap when the nose of the projectile can shatter on the plate due to its high impact velocity in later guns (early guns had them due to their low penetration and the success of thin face-hardened armor against uncapped shells, just as in battleship side armor). However, at high obliquity angles, shatter impedes ricochet (no solid nose left to pull the projectile away from the plate if the nose material does glance off), so high-velocity uncapped AP projectiles became superior again against highly-sloped tank frontal armor later on. This is somewhat complicated, as you can see.
Tanks for the lesson Jingles
In RB, you are spotted on minimal if shot, by main gun or machine gun. THAT is why they sprayed him.
The further illustrate the point regarding the issue of KPZ70 and MBT70 tanks not firing the better APFSDS shell, which would have easily killed the T64 tank in a single kill. Here is my current service record with the KPZ70, followed by my acquired research points.
I have a premium account by the way.
88 battles, 48 wins - 54.5% winrate
94 spawns, 81 deaths, 5 air kills, 115 ground kills - 1.48 K/D ratio, 1.06 spawns per match, 0.92 deaths per match.
671k silver eagles gained with the tank, approximately 1.45 million eagles spent on repairs. Assuming an average repair cost of 16500, it's currently at 17500 with my latest upgrades.
So far i have unlocked 6 modules, after 88 battles and 94 spawns in the tank. First you need 2 in the first tree to even start unlocking the better ammo, then you get the Fire Prevention Equipment because the tank cost over 15 000 to repair. At which point you have unlocked 3 modules, without premium this would take you about 80-90 matches. Then you can get the better ammo, then you find out he gun is awfully inaccurate without the adjustment of fire module. So you can get the better ammo as 3rd upgrade, in practice it's not very useful prior to getting 4 upgrades and you really want the fire prevention equipment, so you need 5 upgrades to fire the ammo effectively.
In practice, without premium account, talisman and without buying upgrades, you need to play some 160-180 matches with my score. Which may not be the best, but it's by no means awful and it has been going up as i'm unlocking modules and getting more familiar with the tank.
The new T6 vehicles are little more than a cash grab scheme. Even with a premium account, it's very difficult to even pay for the repair costs, and even when you manage to save up a 1-3k per excellent match, one fuck up and you lose 17 000 silver in one match. Playing good, even with premiums is not good enough. 1-2 caps, 3-4 kills and a couple assists barely cut it in terms of silver if you manage to die at the end.
The commander doesn't load the ATGM on the BMP-1 the gunner does and he doesn't really have to get out of the turret either, and it's not just the ATGM that gives it the ability to fight tanks. The gun on the BMP-1 didn't even have HE when it was first introduced, only HEAT. So it certainly wasn't designed with fighting infantry at the top of the designers minds.