The ultimate DOUBLE SIDED space saving Warhammer gaming table!

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    Have you ever wanted to build the ultimate DOUBLE SIDED space saving Warhammer gaming table? Look no further! In this video I build an epic double sided board that is perfect for your games of Warhammer, Warhammer 40k, Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game, MESBG, Age of Sigmar or D&D!
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Комментарии • 155

  • @Zorpazorp
    @Zorpazorp Год назад +5

    Fuck this is AWESOME. this idea is going straight into the livestream studio.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      Thanks dude! Can’t wait to see yours once you’re in the new Zorp palace 😍

  • @WilhelmScreamer
    @WilhelmScreamer Год назад +5

    That storage solution is super classy

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      Thanks! I’m really pleased with it! Make it looks like part of the furniture rather than a board stuck to the wall 😊

  • @syrupoffig4865
    @syrupoffig4865 Год назад +18

    The storage solution here is great for in a gaming room or garage, double sided and with a protective lid...man, you have covered so many angles to make this a practical thing to do - good work!

  • @aom405
    @aom405 Год назад +2

    my hobbies are different from your hobbies but this video made me want to make things. Static grass applicators are pretty fucking hypnotic to watch, it’s like the reverse of shaving.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      Haha! Indeed it does look like reverse shaving! I love it!

  • @dicedrinksanddadjokes
    @dicedrinksanddadjokes Год назад +1

    Genius idea mate! Love the way you mounted it on the wall with Beau's beautiful prints, very cool!

  • @adriannaranjo4397
    @adriannaranjo4397 Год назад +1

    Thank you RUclips recommendations for this masterpiece

  • @Nat1videos
    @Nat1videos Год назад +8

    Love the idea of a double sided board man, and great storage solution! I hope to play on that board some day ;)

    • @dominicskelton3031
      @dominicskelton3031 Год назад +1

      It really seems a great way to get maximum use from the time abd space. :-)

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      Thanks dude! Once my little on is a bit bigger you’ll have to come up and hang out!

  • @raphaelfischer8425
    @raphaelfischer8425 Год назад +2

    Im totaly inspired now to Build my own! Thank you so much. I will try to construct it in such a way that I can fold the plate to be able to transport it better.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      That’s awesome! I love how this one turned out but I have some ideas on how to improve on this. Keep an eye out for it soon! 😊

    • @raphaelfischer8425
      @raphaelfischer8425 Год назад +1

      @@BenjisHobbies cant want to See it!

  • @hobbywitholi
    @hobbywitholi Год назад +1

    what a cracking solution to every hobbyists worst nightmare: storage space! Great video!

  • @violetcorvidgaming4507
    @violetcorvidgaming4507 Год назад +6

    By far my most favourite video you have done mate. I am really loving these LOTRs inspired videos. The nostalgia hit is real!

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      Aww thanks! It’s probably one of my favourites too. Definitely got more Middle Earth inspired videos in the works 😊

  • @Auriorium
    @Auriorium Год назад +3

    I remember when GW was selling that battle board thing. A modular table for warhammer.
    I had the similar idea but mine was 6 segments of 2' by 2' with a smaller frame below that would sit on my kitchen table, sort of as an extension making my table into a 6' by 4'.
    And I wanted to use my citadel battlemat or any other mats that would fit.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      Ah, I remember those! The Realms of Battle board? I think they were discontinued a couple of years ago now.

  • @Nosferatuklown
    @Nosferatuklown Год назад +15

    These turned out fantastic, my only concern about building a board is how finite they turn out, for example you made a lovely out doors hill scape on one side that I'd love to play on, but then I'd have to build a hellscape version, then a frozen tundra version, Sci fi industrial, moden city scape...ugh, first world gamer problems I suppose, but atleast you've given me ab idea how to do two in one

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      Thanks so much! And yes, that’s certainly a concern for me! Whilst building this I definitely had ideas of making an industrial one or just a ruined battlefield. So many ideas, so little time (and space!)

    • @chad534
      @chad534 Год назад +2

      Put dowel holes by the 4 corner and handles on the ends making them stackable.

  • @awesomenesschanel
    @awesomenesschanel Год назад

    really enjoying the messy content. Its why I subscribed and Im happy to see it making a return

  • @ThatNathan
    @ThatNathan Год назад

    Great to see the new space taking shape. The double board is always good for variety

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 Год назад +1

    Thank you , Benji .
    🐺

  • @Greentreeanduril
    @Greentreeanduril Год назад +1

    Love it.
    Nothing I like more than seeing board builds of all sizes and themes. My dream is one day to have a huge loft space man cave with a permanent huge table setup. But for now I’ll stick to the smaller pieces.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +2

      Thanks man! I’m always in awe of your builds so this means a lot coming from you 😊
      I’d LOVE to have a permanently set up table but for now that’s a pipe dream. Studio 3.0 will definitely have some dedicated gaming space though, mark my words!

  • @landonpaints
    @landonpaints Год назад +3

    Awesome channel. Instant subscribe!

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      Aww thank you! Hope you enjoy the stuff I’ve got coming up 😊

  • @sylntghost007
    @sylntghost007 Год назад +1

    Both boards look awesome.

  • @jmaccsarmiesofArda
    @jmaccsarmiesofArda Год назад +1

    Awww sweet. Those textured tiles are a class idea will need to get some

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      Thanks man! Yeh, they’re a game changer. Loads of opportunities with them for display boards etc 😊

  • @stretch3281
    @stretch3281 Год назад +2

    Nice to see someone doing a proper job, sanding, glueing "and" screwing! Being a professional woodworker i normally cringe at vids like this. You won't ever regret taking a little extra time to do a good job, same can't be said for cutting corners.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      I wouldn’t say it’s a ‘proper job’ but I like to do more than just the bare minimum 😊 Some day I’d love to make an oak framed gaming table but right now it’s beyond my skill and budget to be able to do it justice. Maybe one day 😊

  • @samsolopeeps
    @samsolopeeps Год назад +1

    How did I not know about those Foam tiles! Great Video

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      Good aren’t they! It’s not the last you’ll be seeing of them 😊

  • @harazhangf5782
    @harazhangf5782 Год назад +1

    Two days ago I was thinking it was a long time we didn't have one of your video. And today I got that sweet notification. Perfect.
    The tables both look great, well done !!!
    Love the double sided table idea. Never thought about it, now you've open a whole new world to me and my restricted space. Thanks.
    Oh, by the way, a friend of mine made me try MESBG a week and a half ago. I think I've never fell in love with a wargame this fast. Can't wait to play it again.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      Fatherhood is definitely getting in the way of this RUclips lark! Don’t worry though, I’ve already got a few videos in the works so I promise I won’t be keeping you as long before the next one.
      I’m glad you love MESBG! 😍

    • @harazhangf5782
      @harazhangf5782 Год назад

      @@BenjisHobbies Yeah, fatherhood don't mix really well with a lot of stuff at first. But in a couple years you'll be able to paint minis with you kid. And it is one of the best thing ever.
      No problem for the waiting time. If I have to wait for you videos I'll wait. But I'm happy to hear there are already videos in the work.
      Have a great day.

  • @jjcouch5
    @jjcouch5 Год назад +1

    Looks great! Love the idea for the lid…and hanging it on the wall with cool art!

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      Thanks dude! I’m really pleased with it 😊

  • @BroadswordWargaming
    @BroadswordWargaming Год назад +2

    Absolutely love this man, amazing work! Time to get that flipside board out. Those foam tiles are lovely :)

  • @MrCaptainChallenge
    @MrCaptainChallenge Год назад

    This was awesome mate! No idea why you don't have 100k subs!

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      Thanks so much man! Hopefully I’ll get there one day 😊

  • @JEANPIXBN
    @JEANPIXBN Год назад +2

    Man I missed your videos, thanks for the great content and hope everything’s going great for you my dude!

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      Sorry for keeping you waiting so long! I promise there will be more coming out thicker and faster soon. Unfortunately fatherhood gets in the way a little 😊

  • @elstonation
    @elstonation Год назад +1

    Loving the board, boards, picture frame hanging wall feature 🤣. One day I will attempt this but today is not this day 😁

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      You’d just end up making ten of them in the time it took me to make one 🙄😘

    • @elstonation
      @elstonation Год назад

      @@BenjisHobbies when switch over to making terrain, it's going to be an interesting day 😁

  • @depo01
    @depo01 Год назад +1

    Making it look easy

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      Thanks! It’s definitely not difficult - if I can make this anyone can!

  • @vangrail27
    @vangrail27 Год назад

    never knew about mdf sealer!

  • @Daydam
    @Daydam Год назад +2

    That looks so good! I've been working on a modular board lately, and right now I'm trying to deal with how to hide the borders to allow for a nice combination of different modules while still allowing the board to hang from the wall without crushing grass tufts and such.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      It’s such a difficult compromise - you want it to look good, but also want it to be durable, easy to use and not overly difficult to make. There were definitely compromises that had to be made with this board but overall I think it does what it needs to. Looking forward to seeing yours!

  • @DenePaintsThings
    @DenePaintsThings Год назад +2

    Looks amazing mate, and that's a clever storage solution! I've always wanted to build a board myself, but storage space has been the issue. End result is awesome :)

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      Thanks so much dude! You’re more than welcome to come up and play on my table if you’re ever free 😊

  • @spice6828
    @spice6828 Год назад +1

    I didn't know you had a blog until I read through the comments, can't wait until you get the article up for this! I longingly watch the other channels do board builds but this is next level stuff, looks amazing. Can I ask what blue foam it is you're using for the hills there please?

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      I need to get round to updating it more frequently than I do 🙈 Always so much to do but so little time!
      The blue foam is just XPS foam I picked up from a company called CosySpace 👍🏼

  • @WohlfePac
    @WohlfePac Год назад +1

    Such a great idea! I want to do something similar but a kill team sized board that has a good amount of detail while also being portable

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      I think a Kill Team board like this would be awesome!

  • @seanlotr
    @seanlotr Год назад

    would love to build a board like this, hoping one day to be able to do this when having some more space.

  • @ryanthompson6571
    @ryanthompson6571 Год назад +1

    Great video, love how they both came out. I made a double sided board last year. I made the first side then after a week, I thought why not do something on the other side.
    One snowy side
    One nurgle wastelands side
    But I just used some circle sponge in all corners instead of framing it.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      That sounds awesome! Would love to see it 😊 If you’ve got some pictures then I’d love to see them in the Facebook group!

  • @boardgamewoodsman8378
    @boardgamewoodsman8378 Год назад

    Great idea! We made a fold up mobile table (so to say) and then have 1x 1 foam tiles we can layout on the table. I like your idea better
    That being, I would lighten the load with some half inch cabinet grade plywood. Looks like you used half inch MDF which might not be much different but 3/4 weighs a lot. Would also use some cleaner select pine for the edges and stain it.
    Thanks for the inspiration and keep the ideas coming.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      In hindsight there would definitely be ways of lightening the load. I’d probably go with 6mm MDF rather than 9mm next time. My concern with ply is that the quality (especially from big box stores) in the U.K. can be a bit iffy, so long term I think MDF would be a bit more functional.
      Thanks for your kind words! 😊

  • @Kruulos
    @Kruulos Год назад +1

    What sort of black magic made your hand saw fly @ 6:31 ? Channeling some heresy stuff there mate

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      Haha! Just watched it back! I think the handle just caught my sleeve 😂

  • @miniaturestash
    @miniaturestash Год назад +1

    Thank was a really cool board! Thanks for sharing, great content.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      Thank you! I love how it turned out, just need to find some time to play on it now!

  • @MasterNeptor
    @MasterNeptor Год назад +1

    I love yer cat in background

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      She’s always busy getting involved and ‘helping’!

    • @MasterNeptor
      @MasterNeptor Год назад

      @@BenjisHobbies Cats do be like that. At least this time she didnt seem to disturb you during tile gluing process hah!

  • @jameshogg601
    @jameshogg601 Год назад +1

    Great Video mate hope things are going well with the little one 👍

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      Thanks dude! He’s a little champ and growing up so fast!

  • @Lucyskywd
    @Lucyskywd Год назад

    Great video !! ✨

  • @gekalskip
    @gekalskip Год назад

    that's gotta be the most beautiful board i've ever seen! especially love the way you made the grassy side, it looks so vibrant but still very realistic. For warhammer it might be a bit too hilly, but still very sweet. I would love to see you make some modular forests/hills/river/whatever in the same style and see how you can diversify this board to keep it fresh over multiple games. Hint: Warhammer the Old World is coming out this or next year most likely, creating a load of new wargamers looking for inspiration for their own boards

  • @GaudiaCertaminisGaming
    @GaudiaCertaminisGaming Год назад +2

    Charlie work. Nice one.

  • @ricoqwertz123
    @ricoqwertz123 Год назад

    Thanks for the Video 😉👍

  • @roboduck2507
    @roboduck2507 Год назад

    Great video man :) Love to know if the wood will bow. As mine did :(

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      Still looking good so far but I’ll keep you posted!

  • @messaroundhandleit
    @messaroundhandleit Год назад +1

    I bought textured floor tile, and instead of a mat I bought those very thin peel and stick vinyl tiles with fake stone designs as a play mat.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      Ah yes, that sounds like a good idea! That would definitely work 😊

  • @peterdickinson4599
    @peterdickinson4599 Год назад +1

    How much did they cost? A breakdown of the materials in the video description would be useful because you did seem to throw a LOT of purchased components at the project. Were you sponsored by Colour Forge and Geek Gaming?

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      I’ve not really got a breakdown of the costs but it’s probably something I’ll throw up as a blog post on my website if that’s of interest. I’m not sure how else you’d build or paint something without purchasing stuff? 😅
      I got sent some rattle cans by Colour Forge but I purchased all of the Geek Gaming stuff from GrimDice Tabletop Gaming.

  • @6TypoS9
    @6TypoS9 Год назад +2

    fuck yeah looking great

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      Thank you! Really pleased with how they turned out!

  • @andyasquith3777
    @andyasquith3777 Год назад +1

    nice think ant see out from you in ages :-)

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      I knoooow man! Fatherhood is taking up way too much of my time 😅

    • @andyasquith3777
      @andyasquith3777 Год назад

      @@BenjisHobbies yea deff now that feeling 4 year old running round don’t get much done as i like in hobby way

  • @danielwielki3490
    @danielwielki3490 8 месяцев назад +1

    👌👌👌👌👌

  • @Gonothing
    @Gonothing Год назад +1

    hey Benji, I think this build is fantastic but I had a question about how you managed the border beaming reducing down the board size? are both boards just slightly smaller than 4ft x 4ft or did you do something to keep the play space at 4ft?

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      Thanks for your kind words! The boards were 1.22m so ever so just about 4ft. The edges did unfortunately eat in to this space but realistically this shouldn’t make a huge difference in most games, especially friendly ones which I’m most likely to play on it 😊

    • @TheBroZerker
      @TheBroZerker Год назад

      @@BenjisHobbies Doesnt this work well with the tiles sizes. I notice they arent exactly 12 inches anyway they are like 11.25 or something so were there any gaps etc?
      Only asking cause im stealing this idea lol its great!

  • @thefullmetal999
    @thefullmetal999 Год назад

    So im definetly taking this idea for my own board im drawing out. The only concern I thought of was how stable is the center of the board when you have it flipped over? Does the MDF happen to bow or anything or is the side bracings tight enough to keep it firm? Love the cover and hanging idea to blend it into the room!

  • @ScorchMat
    @ScorchMat Год назад +1

    Brilliant video! Is the board heavy? What thickness MDF did you use?

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      It’s certainly not the lightest! I used 9mm MDF however if I were to do it again I’d perhaps either go for 9mm ply or even 6mm MDF. The frame on either side adds a lot of rigidity to the board.

  • @christianknaack4190
    @christianknaack4190 Год назад +1

    Looks great ! How much did you spend overall?

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      When I get a spare few minutes I’m going to put up a quick blog post on my website covering the costs. Keep an eye out for it 😊

  • @alixbarclay5198
    @alixbarclay5198 Год назад

    I made a similar board before coming across your video. How did you prevent the boarding warping as you move it? I'd imagine there's some twisting on a framed board that size without cross-bracing.

  • @pokebill4527
    @pokebill4527 Год назад

    Thanks for the video Benji. Please could you give me the dimensions of the sheet and timber? I assume you want the sheet slightly bigger than 6 by 4 to account for the width of the timber framing around the edges?

  • @JDWidhalm
    @JDWidhalm Год назад +1

    Where did you get the files for the 3D printed Moria columns?
    They look awesome and I definitely want to print my own

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      They’re part of the Davale Games Patreon welcome pack. It’s well worth subscribing to if you like Middle Earth inspired STLs 😊

  • @neilharrickey
    @neilharrickey Год назад +1

    3RD. WOOT!

  • @mgentile7
    @mgentile7 Год назад

    Should have installed screws from the bottom up. Just a suggestion.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      And how would I have screwed from the bottom up on the second row?

  • @scoticvsgossage9378
    @scoticvsgossage9378 Год назад

    I can't quite understand what you're saying when you talk about the wood sidings, what materiel is it? And also whats the thickness of each materiel? 3/4 inch for the board's base? And what are the dimensions of the sidings themselves?

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      It’s wood. I think it was 34x27mm.
      Board was 9mm MDF.

  • @MrDjpaulh1982
    @MrDjpaulh1982 Год назад

    Great video as always. Can I ask where you got the blue foam from in the uk.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      Thank you! I bought it from a company called CosySpace on eBay. It’s pretty cheap per sheet and comes in 3 different thicknesses but there used to be a minimum quantity of 5 sheets.
      Recently since bought some pink foam from the Underfloor Heating Company which I would say is marginally better though. It’s in 4x2’ sheets, 10mm thick and is around £6 a sheet. Hope that helps!

  • @MaxJasniewski
    @MaxJasniewski Год назад

    What brand of brown grout did you use?

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      It was just brown Mapei grout from B&Q 😊 don’t worry if you can’t find the exact one, any brown grout would do the trick!

  • @lilspoon5116
    @lilspoon5116 Год назад

    what company made the foam side for the first side?

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      They’re called Firedragon Games. I’ll pop a link on the description 😊

  • @Christopher19990
    @Christopher19990 Год назад

    07:20 sorry i am new. What you are mixing here?

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      It’s modelling compound. It’s a mix of plaster and other ingredients that makes a thick solid paste for creating the land forms.

  • @crossmr
    @crossmr Год назад

    anyone have any other sources for the premade tiles? The choices are either 32mm squares or 25 with a lip around the tile. Neither of those is appealing.

  • @RockRidX
    @RockRidX Год назад +2

    Wear a mask surely @6.36

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      Door was open. There was plenty of air flow through 😊

  • @AleksanderNevskij47
    @AleksanderNevskij47 7 месяцев назад

    The only thing you didn't buy for this project was your time. Congratulations!

  • @HayWireMtg
    @HayWireMtg Год назад +6

    First viewer!!!!

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +3

      That truly is the key to coolness!

    • @HayWireMtg
      @HayWireMtg Год назад +1

      @@BenjisHobbies It sure is!!!!

  • @plaidpvcpipe3792
    @plaidpvcpipe3792 Год назад +38

    Don’t spray paint inside, especially not without a mask! The fumes are toxic.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +11

      I had both sets of doors open - there was plenty of ventilation 😊

    • @photonfartsqueeze6694
      @photonfartsqueeze6694 Год назад +12

      Give this hobby Karen an award for saving us all!
      Clearly someone that runs their own channel on minis knows ventilation is necessary in this circumstance.

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +10

      @@photonfartsqueeze6694 haha! I get it on so many videos!
      It’s a valid point, but I don’t feel it’s necessary to do a risk assessment, go in to every safety precaution I take for everything I do or comment on it in every video otherwise I’d be here for days and it would make the video incredibly boring.
      Are the fumes good? No. But with the doors open and spending a minimal amount of time spraying the risks are low. If I was doing it in an enclosed space, day in, day out it would be a different story, but I’m not. I sprayed for 2-3 minutes with loads of ventilation so realistically the risks are minimal.

    • @plaidpvcpipe3792
      @plaidpvcpipe3792 Год назад +9

      @@BenjisHobbies I’m glad to hear that. A lot of times, people know better but don’t have proper ventilation anyway, so that’s why I commented.
      Edit: also because its good for other people who might read the comments, and don’t know better

    • @buchsg
      @buchsg Год назад +7

      Yes fumes are toxic but your day job will kill you before 😂

  • @waferjuice
    @waferjuice Год назад

    where? where is the double board in action ?? .. 99% is just u showing u making it and 1% talking

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      I’m not even sure what this comment means! You can clearly see both sides with models and terrain on them at the end. 1% talking? I narrated the entire video.
      What action were you expecting? Me taking the board on a rollercoaster? Taking it skydiving?

  • @Danny-ky9tc
    @Danny-ky9tc Год назад

    So, just curious. Why is it always a white guy with glasses and a beard?

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад

      We’re an army bred for one purpose.
      But in all seriousness I didn’t have much choice over my skin colour and vision deficiencies. The beard I guess is on me though…

  • @markhanson9508
    @markhanson9508 Год назад

    love your channel and it's a great video. One small criticism, if at all possible you should eliminate "nitty gritty" from your lexicon. look it up, it's a really unpleasant phrase

    • @BenjisHobbies
      @BenjisHobbies  Год назад +1

      Thanks Mark. I think my intent was very clear here and of course I didn’t mean to cause any offence.

    • @markhanson9508
      @markhanson9508 Год назад

      @@BenjisHobbies I'm not accusing you of anything sorry if that wasn't clear. I just don't think people are aware of the real meaning of that expression. Like paddy wagon and Indian promises are obviously rooted in race.
      But most people aren't aware nitty gritty refers to the human refuse left in a slave ship that had to be cleaned before you could continue on your trade route.