I don't think anyone mainstream news wants to bum everyone out with the fact that in the US we have only 2 bad choices right now. Lockdown again or have the 50k hospitalizations a day until it infects half the population ( I think those were the figures he quoted)
Because they are too busy running around like headless chickens looking for miracle cures instead of addressing the cold hard facts. Thus we have the likes of the current obsession with "cloth face masks/coverings' despite the dearth of supporting evidence and data. I despair at the lack of questioning of new research and political polices by media and opposition politicians.
@@MrArdytube too bad we needed one. Somehow these "leaders" were all smart enough to get to the top, they're all smart enough to financially gain and help their buddies, but sadly too "stupid" to do any of the very obvious things that 1) had been laid out in plans for just such an occasion and 2) boneheads on youtube such as myself were crowing about since December. It begs credulity.
erg Yes indeed, it beyond astonishing that anyone, let alone the leaders of our exceptionally great nation could ignore this existential threat... and disregard all of the strategies and plans that had been laid out to deal with exactly this sort of threat. I think it would be fascinating to discover how and why this happened... although I suspect that the explicating the nature of the failure would encounter the same denialism that continues to characterize our response to the virus.
Thanks you for the raw info however terms like 'pandemic fatigue' and 'economic suffering' tends to minimize the actual harm caused by a shutdown. It would be nice to hear a podcast that has both Dr. Osterholm and Dr. Katz discussing these issues.
@@accountinglavidalaguna2384 I Yes, Dr. Katz readily acknowledges the limits of his knowledge however that statement was made in the context of whether the U.S. is anywhere close to herd immunity; he deferred to Dr. Osterholm's expertise. That said, let's not value one over the other; both offer expert opinions and persectives from different yet complementary disciplines. I still believe bringing together two of clearest, nonpartisan experts who do not necessarily agree on every issue will help individuals assess their risks and learn how to live with this virus.
These podcasts are the absolute most informative source of Covid 19 updates I have found, and I have spent a ridiculous amount of time searching. Thank you!
I'll take exception with one contention made by Dr Osterholm. He said we restricted congregation of people at restaurants, bars, etc. But we just shifted congregations to Lowe's, Home Depot and the non grocery portions of Walmart and Target.
@Aaron Neville He isn't anti-mask, eithet. Nut he thinks distancing is far more important. He does not harp on face coverings. He thinks it is important to understand that madks are not a magic bullet. They give a person *some* protection, but if you listen to the podcasts, you will find that his message is not, "Just wear a mask" or "It's to protect others*. It is more like, "Masks can have some effectiveness but they do not do much."
@Aaron Neville he is neither anti- nor pro. But he refuses to get on the mask-mandate bandwagon. His message: if it isn't an N-95 respirator, you are not protected.
Thank you for this podcast. I would suggest that you get back onto the Joe Rogan Experience. i know that is not only up to you. However, everyone knows how widespread his audience is, and his rhetoric has changed quite a bit since you were on his show. He longer believes it to be as serious as he thought it was in the beginning of the pandemic. It's clear that the federal government doesn't want to face this, so the only option we have is to shake people out of apathy.
I look forward to your podcast weekly. I believe the biggest injustice to Americans through this pandemic has been misinformation. You are a beacon of light through this tough time and look forward to hearing about real transmission efficacy in different situations so we can socialize again responsibly when we reach acceptable transmission levels.
That was a great question on the virus in December, January, February. His dismissal due to antibody tests is weak as he’s stated those tests are really inaccurate. Though he does touch on loss of antibodies possibly affecting accuracy. Maybe he’ll correct that as well in the future like he did others. I know people who travelled thru Minneapolis during that time who got sick with exact Covid symptoms before March.
Dr. Osterholm: "It's going to take leadership, courage, vision, and one pretty good public relations program" Given that the president's public relations program is to pretend the virus is not a problem, we are screwed.
Thank you dr. Osterholm. I'm saddened that we are currently in this situation and it didnt even hit fall yet. Thank you for your expertise and always look forward to your podcast every week.
There were huge increases of cases of sepsis last year globally, could this be related, a lesser strain? Samples in Spain show Covid19 in sewage March 2019.
So 70k yesterday, and the the idea of 50% infection rate for the USA is very very conservative as well possibly the idea immunity does not last long, under 3 months And all long term effects of SARS-CoV-2 He trying really hard not to sound like he fear-mongering and everyone , but I have a feeling he will charge his tone very soon, next 2-3 weeks because this is that fricking serious SARS-CoV-2 is ......good Luck everyone need it and thank-you Michael Osterholm been following since the JRE podcast, your very human and get to the point, Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦 🍁#SARS-CoV-2 #WindsorOn
Thank you so much for these podcasts. Mike demonstrates humility, compassion and a bedrock of scientific strength and knowledge - my wife and I will continue to listen each week. This freely given information is so, so valuable. We live in Bristol here in the UK but much of the information and wisdom is very transferable.
The problem with this analysis is that a case of the common cold is not a public health issue. It is the serious cases, the hospitalizations that are significant. And the declining mortality rate suggests that we are learning how to treat the disease. We did lock down. But life continues.
We don't know about the longterm impact of this virus. There are people who "recovered" from the virus 3 months ago who are still hiding inhalers, have heart palpitations and can't do simple things like taking a walk because their heart rate accelerates
I’ve been watching this as well. China is trying to get in front of this one which really worries me. I don’t feel they would be so concerned if it was nothing . It’s yet another Novel pneumonia that has a much higher case fatality rate .
The problem with comparisons to other countries is that as soon as they truly open up their economies, the case load will rise. At this point, contact tracing in all of these countries will be absolutely useless because the vast majority of cases are completely asymptomatic. Furthermore, his case load projection does not take into account the compounding effect of herd immunity.
The difference with most other countries is that when they see the cases rise, they go back to an earlier phase of lockdown to prevent a spike, therefore making the level of virus manageable. For example, Ireland's R number went from below 1 to almost 2 in the last two weeks and as a result they have postponed removing scheduled relaxing of restrictions
I too appreciate Dr. Osterholm’s honesty but he and other health professionals need to remember that their opinion is only part of a decision. Has Dr. Osterholm considered overall mortality with his lockdown opinion? I notice that opioid overdose deaths are way up in the counties in my area for example. The Governors need to look at economics and the mental health of the people. Also will the public in their state tolerate another lockdown? In my state of Florida, I doubt it! Perhaps with more deaths, more people might social distance and wear masks though.
This is what I don't understand. Why don't the leaders in the various governments explain that the shorter shut down IS to save long term economic and mental health. This is why you guys are failing so bad. You haven't done the complete shut down like the rest of the world who is now enjoying economic opening had done. Not shutting down is going to wreck the economy beyond repair AND most people either ending up brain damaged, lungs or kidneys permanently damaged, psychotic or demented or dead.
David Hanson, in previous podcasts he has addressed this and more, eg. people are afraid to go to the doctor, so kids are not getting vaccinated for other diseases such as measles. There are many consequences, but right now this is overwhelming our systems. If the public actually listened to Dr. Osterholm, we would already have a open economy with better, more effective safety measures, such as bringing business and meetings outdoors.
If you've had COVID can you get it again? I've read that the antibodies disappear after 60ish days..but that the T Cells do remember how to attack it...I'm not a doctor but you are..can I get your honest opinion?
Yes, even though the protests are mainly outside, they are congregating closely together and not social distances. In addition many of those groups of protesters meet up indoors to eat, strategize and take breaks. Wearing masks will help, but social distances and keeping clean are also needed.
I work in a school in a major city in Texas. It's July 13, we are deep in the covid crap. I fear that opening schools in August will be an absolute disaster. High school seniors I fear can transmit the virus. We will shut down abruptly with so much community spread if we try to open making the fear of going to school even more scary for all people involved. Many teachers are getting their wills in order. Schools are mass indoor gatherings. I may as well go to a Trump rally.
@Harry Freedom i hope you know I was being sarcastic about the Trump rally. I wear masks and stay socially distant. I believe the science ; hence my fear of reopening schools at the expense of kids, teachers, and the families they go home to every day. Love and peace.
Dr. Osterholm could heal the country, both medically and spiritually. If everyone listened to his podcast, we could get our lives back; we could reclaim the goodness of people. Thank you sir.
Just an update: Olsterholm was right again. 💯🙌 People NEED to listen to him. I hope he can get Biden to lock down this country for 8 weeks to stop this virus in its tracks. No host=virus will die. We could have a fresh start. "The cure can't be worse than the virus." No and it won't be bad because it will be nearly gone. Rapid test anyone who comes into our country. Let's NOT repeat this again. Learn, move forward. 8 week lock down with payment, because bills don't stop.
@Harry Freedom That puts what... 50% of Americas population at great risk. A lot of overweight kids out there also. This is so bad. They never say obesity on all the doctor/news pieces. They might say Diabetes, or immunocompromised... never Obesity, and they never say High Blood Pressure, it's always "Hypertension" almost like they try to confuse, dumb down, or at the very least not alarm people. Wish they'd say it like it is. :L
Let the virus run its course. We only heard lower the curve, not prevent the spread. Our leaders never said they were trying to prevent the spread, and that’s where we were misled.
Please bring the Airborne Data sooner than later, and once again, talk about it anytime you are on TV sir... please do. Economy or no economy, this shouldn't be secret.
My son (almost 3 years old) suddenly died of unknown causes March of 2019. Before this pandemic we had settled on a virus or bacteria as the cause. Is it at all possible COVID19 is responsible? My husband had come home from Australia 2 weeks prior where there was an illness.
No not in 2019. Corona virus is still a very relatively low of overall medical caused deaths. It's high but anyone dying is not a 50/50 Corona Vs something else unless all the typical symptoms are present.
Regarding airborne transmission, as I’ve been saying all along: It’s a conspiracy! (Look up the etymology of the word “conspiracy” if you don’t get the joke)
The analysis must be to compare the impacts of the virus against the anti-virus actions. If we are killing millions or tens of millions by the lockdowns and other actions, we need to consider if the they are worth it. And what must be considered is ... are we saving lives or simply delaying deaths? Sweden is now seeing a reduction in cases, hospitalizations and deaths without having reached the numbers of infections he is talking about.
I really hope he can do a podcast on the risks associated with reopening schools. It seems children are collateral damage for mainly an adult problem. Is it true that even with a vaccine, the flu is deadlier to children, etc (166 deaths last year vs 29 COVID). Sweden never closed elementary schools, no children died. Some school reopening plans sound eerily similar to how to run a prison. Plexiglass dividers (spit shields), Restraints (masks), Physical distancing, no socialization, no playing, no sharing, no eating together, no recess. Do children play a significant role in transmission? Can't we just let the children play? I'd love to hear Dr. Osterholm on those important questions. America really need his help with this. The American Academy of Pediatrics thinks we need to have kids back. Are we causing more harm than good by what we're doing to kids right now? It certainly seems to be the case, but I would love to hear from Dr. Osterholm. Thank you!
@@deeptime5581 But is it? I've read articles saying that child transmission is far less common, it's usually adult to adult or adult to child. It was a report out of the Netherlands. I'd love to hear Osterholm's take on this topic.
@@nc8444 Less common, not non-existent. Won't take long for some teachers with pre-existing conditions or co-morbidities to be dead. He is going to talk about it next time.
Well all I can say it's clear Dr. Osterholm needs to be on the President' s task force. A voice of reason and one who could adequately explain this all to the public. Even our local health department is not able to follow any guidelines other than CDC and doesn't have the foresight to think beyond CDC.
Hi Dr Osterholm, another great podcast. Thankyou. I've read there's a possible outbreak of a novel pneumonia virus in Kazakhstan, which China says is more fatal than Covid. Something to keep an eye on. It got me wondering if the presence of a virulent global virus can bring about the formation of other, similar viruses?
From a public health perspective, everything you do restrictively may improve outcomes. So even if cloth T-shirt masks only help a few percent, that will reduce transmission per thousand people.
He meant we should not falsely believe masks are 100% proof. Your mask protect others from you so it helps for everyone to wear one in public indoor settings.
The mask issue has changed. We were told that in March,so medical professionals could get them. The mask help it spread less. That brings the numbers down. That’s where we are today.
Dr cases dont tell us anything. Are we testing more? Which is the death rate now compare with a month befoe? I am sorry Dr I dont buy it....I dont see ALL questions amswered. What about people with metabolic issues? You only talk distacing tracing but you dint ask importanr questions. I refused to be traced
I trust 3 people in this Pandemic - Dr Osterholm, Dr Fauci, and Bill Gates. Thanks for your straight talk and it was eye-opening to hear and feel your connections to the Health Care workers. Thank you, hang in there..
He did in the podcast 2 weeks after the protests. See www.cidrap.mn.edu for all of his podcasts. The protests did not contribute to the spread in any material way. Opening did.
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Dr. Osterholm, thank you.
What i like about Dr Osterhold is he give honest straight talk.
That's not his name lol.
danilo Sanchez ...He lives in ?Minneapolis and Minnesota is doing well with the Covid 19 pandemic!
Correct spelling irrelevant. Agreed, he keeps it real, as do Marc lipsitch and a few others
danilo Sanchez ....U of Minnesota....My Alma Mater 👩🎓....the Doc is a breath of fresh air during Typhoid Trump’s Reign...thanks ...❤️🇨🇦💔🇺🇸💀
The guy is wrong. he simply has no idea.
Very informative podcast. Thank you, Dr. Osterholm for the unvarnished straight talk. Your leadership and compassion is much needed.
Why is information like this from Dr. Osterholm not on national news? This needs to be the person that our government listens to.
I don't think anyone mainstream news wants to bum everyone out with the fact that in the US we have only 2 bad choices right now. Lockdown again or have the 50k hospitalizations a day until it infects half the population ( I think those were the figures he quoted)
He's on CNN often.
It's roughly 50k confirmed cases daily not 50k hospitalizations daily that would truly be a disaster if they all required hospital care lol
Because they are too busy running around like headless chickens looking for miracle cures instead of addressing the cold hard facts.
Thus we have the likes of the current obsession with "cloth face masks/coverings' despite the dearth of supporting evidence and data.
I despair at the lack of questioning of new research and political polices by media and opposition politicians.
@@kevina5337 Cases or positive tests?
Your updates are the ones I trust the most.
Only Coronavirus news I follow 👍 I look forward to this weekly podcast and have been checking CIDRAP regularly since Wednesday for update #15.
Same, this is the only guy I trust in regards to covid
If Dealing with this situation is going to “take leadership”... then we are in trouble
You said it!!
I started laughing at that point. Oh and courage and vision too. Fat chance.
erg
Too bad we don’t get a mulligan (do over of a golf shot)
@@MrArdytube too bad we needed one. Somehow these "leaders" were all smart enough to get to the top, they're all smart enough to financially gain and help their buddies, but sadly too "stupid" to do any of the very obvious things that 1) had been laid out in plans for just such an occasion and 2) boneheads on youtube such as myself were crowing about since December. It begs credulity.
erg
Yes indeed, it beyond astonishing that anyone, let alone the leaders of our exceptionally great nation could ignore this existential threat... and disregard all of the strategies and plans that had been laid out to deal with exactly this sort of threat. I think it would be fascinating to discover how and why this happened... although I suspect that the explicating the nature of the failure would encounter the same denialism that continues to characterize our response to the virus.
I find it useful to come back and listen to the past episodes as well :-)
I made notes and walked through the math with him and boy is it sobering. Our supply chain is never going to survive this.
Thanks you for the raw info however terms like 'pandemic fatigue' and 'economic suffering' tends to minimize the actual harm caused by a shutdown. It would be nice to hear a podcast that has both Dr. Osterholm and Dr. Katz discussing these issues.
Food for thought:
Dr. Katz deferred to Dr. Osterholm in a youtube interview, saying, "Dr. Osterholm has access to much more information than I do."
@@accountinglavidalaguna2384 I Yes, Dr. Katz readily acknowledges the limits of his knowledge however that statement was made in the context of whether the U.S. is anywhere close to herd immunity; he deferred to Dr. Osterholm's expertise. That said, let's not value one over the other; both offer expert opinions and persectives from different yet complementary disciplines. I still believe bringing together two of clearest, nonpartisan experts who do not necessarily agree on every issue will help individuals assess their risks and learn how to live with this virus.
These podcasts are the absolute most informative source of Covid 19 updates I have found, and I have spent a ridiculous amount of time searching. Thank you!
Yes, me too.
Covid 19 kindness webpage is a perfect idea. Keep speaking truth. We need your leadership, it's saving thousands. Perfect song today. Thank you!
I'll take exception with one contention made by Dr Osterholm. He said we restricted congregation of people at restaurants, bars, etc. But we just shifted congregations to Lowe's, Home Depot and the non grocery portions of Walmart and Target.
COVID is literally America's preoccupation - and for good reason. So why isn't Dr. Osterholm's message getting out more?
Have you seen who's in charge? That's why.
I think because he isn't pro-mask.
@Aaron Neville He isn't anti-mask, eithet. Nut he thinks distancing is far more important. He does not harp on face coverings. He thinks it is important to understand that madks are not a magic bullet. They give a person *some* protection, but if you listen to the podcasts, you will find that his message is not, "Just wear a mask" or "It's to protect others*. It is more like, "Masks can have some effectiveness but they do not do much."
@Aaron Neville he is neither anti- nor pro. But he refuses to get on the mask-mandate bandwagon. His message: if it isn't an N-95 respirator, you are not protected.
RTC1655 yep sure have!! The left wing media
Thank you for this podcast. I would suggest that you get back onto the Joe Rogan Experience. i know that is not only up to you. However, everyone knows how widespread his audience is, and his rhetoric has changed quite a bit since you were on his show. He longer believes it to be as serious as he thought it was in the beginning of the pandemic. It's clear that the federal government doesn't want to face this, so the only option we have is to shake people out of apathy.
ascarlisle5 agreed!
100% re Joe Rogan. I don't know what his agenda is, but please get back there if you can.
Rogan has started pushing the idea that the virus has been exaggerated by the media so I doubt it'll happen
@@popland1977 Can't give up trying. Simply cannot. As this virus has shown, half-measures don't get us the results we need.
It would be a great time to go back on. With the accelerated spread we don’t have much more time to get the truth out. It may be too late now .
I look forward to your podcast weekly. I believe the biggest injustice to Americans through this pandemic has been misinformation. You are a beacon of light through this tough time and look forward to hearing about real transmission efficacy in different situations so we can socialize again responsibly when we reach acceptable transmission levels.
That was a great question on the virus in December, January, February. His dismissal due to antibody tests is weak as he’s stated those tests are really inaccurate. Though he does touch on loss of antibodies possibly affecting accuracy. Maybe he’ll correct that as well in the future like he did others. I know people who travelled thru Minneapolis during that time who got sick with exact Covid symptoms before March.
Excellent talk. Thank you.
Thank you Dr. Osterholm
Thank you so much for these!! Sharing with the people I care about!
Dr. Osterholm: "It's going to take leadership, courage, vision, and one pretty good public relations program"
Given that the president's public relations program is to pretend the virus is not a problem, we are screwed.
Yep.
Thank you dr. Osterholm. I'm saddened that we are currently in this situation and it didnt even hit fall yet. Thank you for your expertise and always look forward to your podcast every week.
To reiterate what someone else said. Yes, get back on the Joe Rogan podcast if you can.
There were huge increases of cases of sepsis last year globally, could this be related, a lesser strain? Samples in Spain show Covid19 in sewage March 2019.
If the thunder don’t get ya, the lightning will
So 70k yesterday, and the the idea of 50% infection rate for the USA is very very conservative as well possibly the idea immunity does not last long, under 3 months
And all long term effects of SARS-CoV-2
He trying really hard not to sound like he fear-mongering and everyone , but I have a feeling he will charge his tone very soon, next 2-3 weeks because this is that fricking serious SARS-CoV-2 is ......good Luck everyone need it and thank-you Michael Osterholm been following since the JRE podcast, your very human and get to the point, Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦 🍁#SARS-CoV-2 #WindsorOn
One of the few expert voices I plan on listening to throughout this pandemic. Thank you for your work and greetings from Australia.
Thank you so much for these podcasts. Mike demonstrates humility, compassion and a bedrock of scientific strength and knowledge - my wife and I will continue to listen each week. This freely given information is so, so valuable. We live in Bristol here in the UK but much of the information and wisdom is very transferable.
Thank you Dr. Osterholm. I live in Phoenix. From what I've seen, it's only going to get worse. It's scary.
The problem with this analysis is that a case of the common cold is not a public health issue. It is the serious cases, the hospitalizations that are significant. And the declining mortality rate suggests that we are learning how to treat the disease. We did lock down. But life continues.
Death isn't everything.
how many people die the first few months they contract HIV? ZERO.
This is a blood disease. It only spreads respiratory.
We don't know about the longterm impact of this virus. There are people who "recovered" from the virus 3 months ago who are still hiding inhalers, have heart palpitations and can't do simple things like taking a walk because their heart rate accelerates
Thank you Dr. Osterholm I use your information when I am in discussion of current events
You get better and better with every update!
I’ve been watching this as well. China is trying to get in front of this one which really worries me. I don’t feel they would be so concerned if it was nothing . It’s yet another Novel pneumonia that has a much higher case fatality rate .
The problem with comparisons to other countries is that as soon as they truly open up their economies, the case load will rise.
At this point, contact tracing in all of these countries will be absolutely useless because the vast majority of cases are completely asymptomatic.
Furthermore, his case load projection does not take into account the compounding effect of herd immunity.
The difference with most other countries is that when they see the cases rise, they go back to an earlier phase of lockdown to prevent a spike, therefore making the level of virus manageable. For example, Ireland's R number went from below 1 to almost 2 in the last two weeks and as a result they have postponed removing scheduled relaxing of restrictions
Unpopular truths might be the hardest to digest but in the long run might prove to be the most nourishing.
UK & USA Government have both been an absolute disgrace and international embarrassment with their mishandling of this crisis.
Only 12,000 views and it should be 12 million +, Please try to market this differently. Wealth of information. Needs to be heard. Wish I could help.
Thank you Dr. Osterholm wisdom, expertise and straight to the point. Sbove all a genuine good human being.
I too appreciate Dr. Osterholm’s honesty but he and other health professionals need to remember that their opinion is only part of a decision. Has Dr. Osterholm considered overall mortality with his lockdown opinion? I notice that opioid overdose deaths are way up in the counties in my area for example. The Governors need to look at economics and the mental health of the people. Also will the public in their state tolerate another lockdown? In my state of Florida, I doubt it! Perhaps with more deaths, more people might social distance and wear masks though.
Could the current increase in overdose deaths be associated with the lack of funds offered to mental health and substance abuse treatment
This is what I don't understand. Why don't the leaders in the various governments explain that the shorter shut down IS to save long term economic and mental health. This is why you guys are failing so bad. You haven't done the complete shut down like the rest of the world who is now enjoying economic opening had done. Not shutting down is going to wreck the economy beyond repair AND most people either ending up brain damaged, lungs or kidneys permanently damaged, psychotic or demented or dead.
I think our priority should be protecting the lives of our citizens from Covid-19.
David Hanson, in previous podcasts he has addressed this and more, eg. people are afraid to go to the doctor, so kids are not getting vaccinated for other diseases such as measles. There are many consequences, but right now this is overwhelming our systems. If the public actually listened to Dr. Osterholm, we would already have a open economy with better, more effective safety measures, such as bringing business and meetings outdoors.
If you've had COVID can you get it again? I've read that the antibodies disappear after 60ish days..but that the T Cells do remember how to attack it...I'm not a doctor but you are..can I get your honest opinion?
Has Dr. Osterholm addressed the effect of masses gathering for protests?
Yes, even though the protests are mainly outside, they are congregating closely together and not social distances. In addition many of those groups of protesters meet up indoors to eat, strategize and take breaks. Wearing masks will help, but social distances and keeping clean are also needed.
I work in a school in a major city in Texas. It's July 13, we are deep in the covid crap. I fear that opening schools in August will be an absolute disaster. High school seniors I fear can transmit the virus. We will shut down abruptly with so much community spread if we try to open making the fear of going to school even more scary for all people involved. Many teachers are getting their wills in order. Schools are mass indoor gatherings. I may as well go to a Trump rally.
@Harry Freedom i hope you know I was being sarcastic about the Trump rally. I wear masks and stay socially distant. I believe the science ; hence my fear of reopening schools at the expense of kids, teachers, and the families they go home to every day. Love and peace.
I'm wondering why we are still arguing about droplet vs airborne transmission? Why is this so hard to prove in a lab?
Should we all use N95 all the time we are outside of home?
Seriously?
Dr. Osterholm could heal the country, both medically and spiritually. If everyone listened to his podcast, we could get our lives back; we could reclaim the goodness of people. Thank you sir.
Just an update: Olsterholm was right again. 💯🙌 People NEED to listen to him. I hope he can get Biden to lock down this country for 8 weeks to stop this virus in its tracks. No host=virus will die. We could have a fresh start. "The cure can't be worse than the virus." No and it won't be bad because it will be nearly gone. Rapid test anyone who comes into our country. Let's NOT repeat this again. Learn, move forward. 8 week lock down with payment, because bills don't stop.
Thank you, Dr. Osterholm. Bridge over troubled waters is so meaningful to me as well.
I work in a school where social distancing is not possible. As an asthmatic, I wonder should I be worried
Airborne doesn't respect social distancing.
@Harry Freedom That puts what... 50% of Americas population at great risk. A lot of overweight kids out there also. This is so bad. They never say obesity on all the doctor/news pieces. They might say Diabetes, or immunocompromised... never Obesity, and they never say High Blood Pressure, it's always "Hypertension" almost like they try to confuse, dumb down, or at the very least not alarm people.
Wish they'd say it like it is. :L
@@arrogusss2905 Yes I posted something about obesity on FB to save lives; I was accused of fat-shaming. Ugh.
@Harry Freedom Hopefully then, I'll be okay
OSTERHOLM/ FAUCI 2020 🇺🇸
Shut down should be the only response.
I agree with you 💯
Thank you!!!
The short term pain will still result in long term pain regardless of what we do. This country is screwed.
Let the virus run its course. We only heard lower the curve, not prevent the spread. Our leaders never said they were trying to prevent the spread, and that’s where we were misled.
Please bring the Airborne Data sooner than later, and once again, talk about it anytime you are on TV sir... please do.
Economy or no economy, this shouldn't be secret.
The lock downs did more damage than good.
Ring of fire by Johnny Cash . 😅
My son (almost 3 years old) suddenly died of unknown causes March of 2019. Before this pandemic we had settled on a virus or bacteria as the cause. Is it at all possible COVID19 is responsible? My husband had come home from Australia 2 weeks prior where there was an illness.
No not in 2019. Corona virus is still a very relatively low of overall medical caused deaths. It's high but anyone dying is not a 50/50 Corona Vs something else unless all the typical symptoms are present.
@@tommoise1747 He did have symptoms similar to the multi system inflammation disorder children are experiencing. He cause of death was hypoxia.
@@caitlincoleman-hulbert570 I cannot say what it was but definitely not covid 19. I would go with what doctors at the time were able to tell you.
@yoda 1 it's common knowledge. If you research enough you can find this type of information quite easily in peer reviewed or reliable resources
@@tommoise1747 He died of a brain hemorrhage. The doctors have no cause.
"Americans will always do the right thing, only after they've tried everything else."
Regarding airborne transmission, as I’ve been saying all along:
It’s a conspiracy!
(Look up the etymology of the word “conspiracy” if you don’t get the joke)
Thank you for this podcast.
The analysis must be to compare the impacts of the virus against the anti-virus actions. If we are killing millions or tens of millions by the lockdowns and other actions, we need to consider if the they are worth it. And what must be considered is ... are we saving lives or simply delaying deaths? Sweden is now seeing a reduction in cases, hospitalizations and deaths without having reached the numbers of infections he is talking about.
Sweden is back in trouble again.
18:05: “is just unsustainable” truer words could not have been said.
I really hope he can do a podcast on the risks associated with reopening schools. It seems children are collateral damage for mainly an adult problem. Is it true that even with a vaccine, the flu is deadlier to children, etc (166 deaths last year vs 29 COVID). Sweden never closed elementary schools, no children died. Some school reopening plans sound eerily similar to how to run a prison. Plexiglass dividers (spit shields), Restraints (masks), Physical distancing, no socialization, no playing, no sharing, no eating together, no recess. Do children play a significant role in transmission? Can't we just let the children play? I'd love to hear Dr. Osterholm on those important questions. America really need his help with this. The American Academy of Pediatrics thinks we need to have kids back. Are we causing more harm than good by what we're doing to kids right now? It certainly seems to be the case, but I would love to hear from Dr. Osterholm. Thank you!
the problem is not the students, its the teachers
@@deeptime5581 But is it? I've read articles saying that child transmission is far less common, it's usually adult to adult or adult to child. It was a report out of the Netherlands. I'd love to hear Osterholm's take on this topic.
@@nc8444 Less common, not non-existent. Won't take long for some teachers with pre-existing conditions or co-morbidities to be dead. He is going to talk about it next time.
@@deeptime5581 Next time I'll listen to the podcast prior to posting :P Thank you!
Well all I can say it's clear Dr. Osterholm needs to be on the President' s task force. A voice of reason and one who could adequately explain this all to the public. Even our local health department is not able to follow any guidelines other than CDC and doesn't have the foresight to think beyond CDC.
Like stupid ass trump would listen lol
Where's the ha ha emoji?
Hi Dr Osterholm, another great podcast. Thankyou. I've read there's a possible outbreak of a novel pneumonia virus in Kazakhstan, which China says is more fatal than Covid. Something to keep an eye on. It got me wondering if the presence of a virulent global virus can bring about the formation of other, similar viruses?
What’s the IFR?
Who in the population will suffer
Please statistics
Then look at the measurements in Sweden!
Why not copy that ?
Are airborn viruses electrostatic charged?
"Tell the people the truth." - Amen. But in Dr. Osterholm's talk with Joe Rogan in March, he said wearing masks didn't work (except for N-95s) . . . .
From a public health perspective, everything you do restrictively may improve outcomes. So even if cloth T-shirt masks only help a few percent, that will reduce transmission per thousand people.
Michael Smith Yep and Dr. Osterholm may be wrong on his current forecast.
He meant we should not falsely believe masks are 100% proof. Your mask protect others from you so it helps for everyone to wear one in public indoor settings.
The mask issue has changed. We were told that in March,so medical professionals could get them. The mask help it spread less. That brings the numbers down. That’s where we are today.
@@markcampbell8158
So, in other words, we were condescendingly lied to?
Thought masks work? Wear masks and continue on with life. Shutdown is NOT acceptable.
QUESTION THE SUPERFICIAL ANALYSIS OF DATA: ruclips.net/video/h8Eu5W4pqvc/видео.html
Monoclonal IgA medicine drug for oral use to mitigatte infectious is feasible ?
Dr cases dont tell us anything. Are we testing more? Which is the death rate now compare with a month befoe? I am sorry Dr I dont buy it....I dont see ALL questions amswered. What about people with metabolic issues? You only talk distacing tracing but you dint ask importanr questions. I refused to be traced
I thought Trump was going to “put out the embers” ...
I trust 3 people in this Pandemic - Dr Osterholm, Dr Fauci, and Bill Gates. Thanks for your straight talk and it was eye-opening to hear and feel your connections to the Health Care workers. Thank you, hang in there..
its scary that some smart people like this guy drink the cool aid
Please comment regarding on how much the BLM protests and riots have contributed to the spread.
He did in the podcast 2 weeks after the protests. See www.cidrap.mn.edu for all of his podcasts. The protests did not contribute to the spread in any material way. Opening did.
Dr osterhom, can you have a word with Donald Trump?
Trump wouldn’t like him. Trump only likes people that tell him what he wants to hear.
Are airborn viruses electrostatic charged?