If you're gonna do a true Lightning, you need supercharger whine. The Coyote makes 650hp easily with a supercharger. If you need a supercharged 7.3, there's something wrong with ya lol
@@justinluttrell1769 The benefit to building a larger displacement engine like this is the fact that it can be built much more mildy, cost less on regular maintenance items, provide less strain at the same given power level and make that power earlier in the rpms. Lots of benefits for a car that sees street use.
Not going to happen bud... It's been 9 years and the aftermarket is barely there for a coyote. It's going to take quite a while before there's an aftermarket for a 1 ton truck engine.
@@coolbreeze298 I was thinking the same thing, a guy on another post was talking about how it took the aftermarket so long to get there for the coyote, thing is this is a smaller engine with more displacement and a lot easier to work on.
Disclaimer: Chevy guy commenting in a Ford house. Let me start by saying that I'm glad Ford is making a big pushrod engine and it's a proper one at that. It's gonna be great for guys that don't want to LS swap their Mustang (even I think that's lame) or other Ford project. But I didn't see any pricing (even preliminary numbers) for a crate motor...does anyone have those numbers without an NDA? (Chevy mode engaged) You can pickup a 441ci LS short block for around $6K and dress it out for another $3K. In the end, you're looking at the same power or more in a smaller package, that is lighter, and has 20yrs OEM and aftermarket development. (Chevy mode off) The LS motors were really expensive when new and I doubt a stock 7.3 Godzilla long block or crate engine is going to be under $10K for at least a few years. Don't get me wrong...is big, it make serious power, it's not DOHC, it's a Ford and I think it's great.
Finally nice to hear a Chevy guy be polite and nice about a ford..It does get old see the same old comment just Ls swapp it..Being a ford guy myself I would rather build up a 351w from day one..I will admit that the Ls does like you said they make good horsepower out of a relatively small package.Ford definitely has the cylinder head advantage with the 5.0 Coyote.I seen where someone explained that if the coyote was a same cubic inches as the 6.2 ls it would have roughly around 510 horsepower which is impressive.I am glad that ford finally came with the 7.3 Godzilla because I agree with the points you made well said dr.rockso !!!
JMC RJC we're not all assholes and the truth is that I'll hotrod anything with an engine. I just finished helping a friend build a 331 (all forged bottom end, AFR 185cc heads, CompCams NX274) for his '65 Mustang he restored in high school...i spec'd the parts and it's way hotter than we expected. I cannot deny the Coyote's superior head flow numbers...but it's not like they had to make sacrifices to deal with pesky pushrods. Ford has done incredible things with the (D)OHC layout...i only see two issues limiting thier popularity. First they're "more complicated" because they have more moving parts, but that's a dubious argument these days; more importantly they're just so wide that it can be hard to swap them into many cars. Keep your foot on the loud peddle buddy.
@@drrrrockzo I think it's cool that are you more broadly minded in the way of thinking past just being a brand loyalist..Especially helping a buddy out on an old Ford or an old anything ! If the price was right I would buy a 4x4 crew cab Chevy with a 5.3 as I am a middle aged man now I realize that there's so much more to enjoy out there.If we all felt the same way about everything it would be a boring world wouldn't it lol ? You have a good night ! 5 am is rolling up on me fast.
dr.rockzo ford performance is now selling “coyote power modules” for around $10-$15k depending on if you want auto or manual and it will start up and run on the pallet they send it to you on. Everything you need for a swap. Pay an extra $500 for oil pump gears and a crank sprocket, maybe some ARP head studs and you’re ready for 1k hp. What exactly is the 441 and what are the power capabilities? Never seen that displacement. Considering this 7.3 is 445 ci.
@@jmcrjc6799 On fords performance parts website the 5.2 aluminator crate engine makes 580 hp n/a and 445 lb-ft with 12.0:1 static compression. Granted it's not a production engine and is pretty much designed for road racing but still its making upper 500 hp with only 5.2 liters of displacement. Its all in the airflow and with the higher rpm capabilities it can flow a lot of air, torque is a different story but hey everything has comprises.
The cam they added sounds super tame.. would love to see results of fully ported stock heads, intake, a bump in compression and a Real cam.. like a 260ish @ .050" kinda cam..
Soon....very soon! You gotta know Comp is already working on some killer cams. Ford has gotta get a great CNC ported head that will handle all that lift too. Its coming! ;-) Nearly 600 hp already with a tune and headers with an RV+ cam and exhaust port clean up. That shows some real potential! I can't wait!
I'm pretty sure it was designed as a truck engine. Towing heavy trailers filled with hay burners and hay up steep hills requires low end torque. If you go crazy with cam lift and timing , all that power moves way up the rpm curve. Might be good for the drag strip, but not so much for towing / hauling stuff .
as soon as these engines become available im putting one of these in my 78 bronco and in one of my Early broncos. only weighing 130 pounds more then a coyote is insane
WOW! The aftermarket is going to have a field day making parts for this monster! I'm not brand loyal, but Ford knocked it out of the park with this one, and it's gonna hurt some serious feelings when they become available for racing.
2 cents from a hemi guy, I'm very excited about this engine series the ohc has its place but I love a push rod engine with a wedge head I hope Chrysler comes up with one
@@spankthemonkey3437 I'm not spreading any hate but years ago everyone was saying that about the small block Chevy, my point I'm trying to make is accept and embrace change or you'll get get stuck behind
"We swapped it with a roller cam" Spoken like a true old school v8 builder. This comes with a roller Cam from the factory. The roller lifters is not an upgrade. Perhaps higher lift Cam would be a better choice of words, That way you don't have a bunch of people walking around saying all you need to do is put a roller Cam in it.
Yeah, but aluminum blocks have lower strength limitations than High nickel cast iron blocks but As we all know they are heavier. And this being the age of super Chargers and turbos You need a very strong bottom end If you throw a lot of boost at it.
Awesome! I'm so glad they've come up with something that suits some of us Old-Timers that just don't seem to be able to swallow those mod blocks I was true blue all my life until they put the camshaft on top I hope this really puts old Blue back in the game
@@marcusladon1796 not with e85. You can still have some compression with a cooler running fuel like ethanol or methanol, advance the timing map to run out the back, and keep the cam lobe separation low, you could run pretty high compression.
Two things... First, that aluminum fancy intake makes me think of old school metal supercharger scoops sticking out of hoods with the 3 circle flaps. Then I think of this motor, and that big metal scoop, sticking out of the hood of a 78 LTD 2. What a hoon of a car that would be! Second thing, why did you start your graph at 3500 RPM? this is supposed to be going into big trucks. I for one would like to know how this thing is going to be leaving a stoplight with a big load behind it. Sure sure, a 35 speed auto trans(or whatever they are up to these days) will certainly allow for gears to let the engine spin up faster into the power band. I still want to know. I want to know how it compares to old big blocks, or even the 8.1/allison combo sitting in my shed right now. Peak HP is great. My current heavy truck has "pull over a tree" power at basically idle. I would like to know how this new godzilla will do in the same rpm range, both because it will speak to it's heavy duty use, but also because it will tell a tale about how it "feels" when you drive it. Anyone that has driven a true big block from years ago will tell you nothing they have made in the last 15 years "feels" like that. If godzilla is going to be another 5500 rpm narrow power band relies on the transmission to work type of motor, I will be dissapointed both in it's "feel" in driving, but also in the implecations that has to putting it in an old car. For that matter, if there is no option besides the factory mated 10 speed or whatever, not sure I want to drop that into an old car either. There's more to driving then just speed, for me at least. I tune my cars for driving, hooning, speed, but not all at the same time in the same car, if you know what I mean.
500+ hp with just a tune and headers is pretty stout from the factory. When the aftermarket gets some heads, intakes, and cams for this thing it's gonna be a beast! I'll take one now with the tune and headers. 508hp is good enough for me.
Expect parasitic loss of 50hp for accessory drives. It'll benefit heavily from an electric water pump, electric cooling fan and electric power steering.
With even better more modern metallurgy than the LS, and more cubes? That's a tow truck tune....heheheheh....if the GenIV LS motors can make 1800 with gapped rings and race gas, this should be able to hit 1800 and be streetable. >:o)
The only way that is going to happen is if Ford sticks that engine in a ton of different production vehicles, as GM did with the LS. Keeping it only in the Super Duty ain't gonna make for cheap and plentiful. Look at the Coyote... it's been out for years and the junkyards still ain't givin' them up at a decent price. These 7 point 3's are going to be relegated to crate engine status from Ford with associated parts to swap into other vehicles. Maybe some support from Holley. Ford faithful must break out their wallets.
Well knowing ford and looking at there track record they'll use this engine for a couple years make a few tweaks to it. Then after a couple years once its finally about perfect switch to a new engine that's completely untested and complete the cycle all over again.
Steve Reinhart the 5.0 coyote is better lighter and with a good cam kit can produce more power than this engine. Plus this engine has fairly thin rods I think they are smaller than coyote rods
I see how you raised the exhaust port roof. Hopefully aftermarket heads will cast them even higher to really get it flowing. As for boost, I think two 64mm with E85 would really make this thing go. I'm 46,and I bleed Blue. Best Ford pushrod engine since the 427 side oiler. Or a "71" Boss 351C 4V.....
@@aussiesupersnake6642 hell yeah. It sucks that you can only safely go .030" overbore on Cleveland blocks. But those 4V heads flow like crazy and have huge valves.
Great videos on the first new 'BIG' factory engine in a couple decades! Another avenue of interest besides hot rodding would be to create a truck package which primarily ups the torque, improves fuel efficiency AND keeps the engine emissions legal.
GOOD JOB FORD! This is a race engine folks! You are getting a GT40 427 bored FE block with a 428 SCJ stroke and 429 SCJ heads. This is the engine that Ford should've made back in 1968 instead of the 385 series engines.
It's the new generation of the 460 ! It has all of the technology that the 460 doesn't ! 15 ci more and you got a 460 with all the technology! That blows the competition away!
It's the new generation of the 460 ! It has all of the technology that the 460 doesn't ! 15 ci more and you got a 460 with all the technology! That blows the competition away!
I’ve been a GM guy all my life, but doggone, this is the first V8 I’ve been excited about in *years*. Absolutely bang-up job by Ford, can’t wait to get my hands on one - I’ve got dreams of a Gen 1 Raptor with one of these Bad Larrys in it.
I've got to say, that is impressive! Although it is a heavy engine, the horsepower doesn't disappoint. A lot of us free up restrictions but I would like to see it with a little front dress and an optimal air cleaner. Real numbers 👍👍👍
Nice work. This is very interesting. It’s been some time since ford has had an interesting “new” big block. I’m sure in no time it’ll be 800+hp na relatively reliably. I’d like to see an aggressive cam and moderate boost from a centrifugal blower. I foresee it being a popular engine.
Oddman1980 it's not meant to be what the coyote is. The connecting rods are thinner than the 5.0 rods. This motor won't handle what the Chevy LS engines or the 5.0 coyote can
Not bad. Pretty basic nothing crazy and it put down 580hp?!?! I see 700 N/A HP in the near future with a better cam. ported heads proper Intake. slightly more compression. This thing has potential. Can’t wait till they find the weak points (witch I don’t see hardly any) so they can come up with solutions to make them bulletproof
Once again. Great job guys. I can only see the future getting better. With the aftermarket jumping on board the future is bright. Procharger is on board I hear whipple is coming. I would love to see cam manufacturers step up and guys like edelbrock bring some new heads..
More like a 600 HP 446 ci engine feels different than a 600 HP 302 ci engine. The DOHC makes more torque per CI, better VE, and carries the power further. A 446 ci Coyote would outpower and outtorque this tired 7.3 by a mile.
@@BC08 This 7.3 will do just fine, and I am NOT saying that it's more powerful, but it's just a different feel and sound (I watched a Dyno video, and instantly thought of the 460). It's not tired. I realize that Coyote makes more power but they're both Ford and so when you add them up, Ford has everything you could ask for. *Your Move,...and, Go*
Righteous Indignation. LOL, NHRA top fuel has very major little innovation due to class regulations. OHC was banned in the 60s. I’m sorry you are unable to comprehend the concept that 4 valves per cylinder allows for much more valve area for a given bore size. You can bet your ass Top Fuel would pick up a bunch of power with an optimized DOHC 4V head.
Righteous Indignation. I don’t need to ask myself, I already know the answer. Because diesels generally rev 3500 rpm tops and the reduced moving valve-train mass offered by a DOHC valve-train isn’t a worth the increase is physical size. If they were revving 6500 - 11,000 rpm the boons of a DOHC valve-train (which is superior in all ways save packaging) are worth the increase in engine width. Pretty simple. The general 16 pushrod/rocker bridge setup used in most current 4V diesels are pretty fragile, and pose valve stem wear issues even in low-rpm diesels. The 7.3 is a dinosaur, Ford has had great engines for decades (5.4/5.8 Ford GT/GT500 4V, Coyote 5.0), the 7.3 will be a footnote in history just like the 360 FE.
This is one of the most exciting things to hit the car industry since the LS. I cant wait to get my hands on one. But which one of my cars should I put it in?
Very excited to put one of these in my notchback, any word on ford performance offering them as a crate engine yet? I live 10 minutes away from the engine plant in windsor where these are built, too bad I cant buy one directly lol
That intake looks badass. Perfect swap for my dad's 79 f250 with the disappointing 351m. Less than 200 to more than 500 HP with modern big block technology, I better hit the lottery.
@@HioSSilver1999 no one gives a damn about accessories. Every engine is going to have an alternator possibly a p/s pump and they're all going to add about three same weight for each engine. Those are moot.
@@bryanmulligan5319 no reason to act like a dick. Fact is not all accessories weigh the same. The bracketry itself can be massively different. Unless it's going in a full on drag car it matters. This is a large heavy engine.
@@HioSSilver1999 I'm not trying to be a dick, so sorry if I came off like that. My point is that alternators, P/S pumps, and A/C compressors are all probably very close in weight that weighing them with the accessories is kind of pointless. The front cover of this engine is massive and Brian Wolfe already hinted that guys are going to be able to put it on a diet and taylor it to their needs. I'm a Ford guy and other than the Coyote, they've been pretty underwhelming since they put the mod engine in the Mustang in 96, so this engine is exciting. I'll give up a few pounds for the promise this engine has. I just hope my enthusiasm translates to availability down the road. If they're not cheap and plentiful in a few years, then it's all for not in my opinion.
Thankyou for the videos really enjoying them,even though i have cars that are boosted,i really love a high revving n/a motor,i would to see how far you take this by increasing the comp,head work,and solid roller cam
I don't know if it has already been asked but... what bell housing bolt pattern does it have ?... did it keep the modular ?...or other ?..or in typical Ford fashion did they give it a whole new pattern ?...Midas well ask about motor mounts while I'm at it.
@@buckhorncortez Yes for 20 years now Ford has owned GM's lame as pushrod engines. Now this thing comes out and sets the pushrod world on FIRE. It's got so much new tech there's no way GM or Mopar could ever catch it. Way beyond, like nothing we've ever seen before. :rolleyes:
Except with a Level Playing Field they don't Mod motor sweep of the podium and because of that domination the overhead cam engines have their own class now and aren't allowed to run with pushrod motors. www.hotrod.com/articles/2013-amsoil-engine-masters-challenge-top-finishers/
I'd love to see you guys work with Pat Topolinski and Mike Galley at Engine Power in Franklin, TN. (PowerNation) So many ideas with this new engine. Sounds freaking awesome! I want one!
So essentially.....it's inferior to the Coyote motor. It makes more power, sure....but not by much. Especially when you look at hp/liter. Take a Coyote motor, add a cam and an intake manifold and your numbers are not that dissimilar. And you're still 130lbs lighter. This seems like it would be amazing in an offroad vehice moreso than a street car.
And I dunno if you've ever driven something with a coyote or not. But below 2500-3000 rpm they are completely gutless. And im saying this as an owner of a full bolt on S550 mustang gt that I daily drive. This engine is designed for low end torque. And given the displacement it's hard for it to not have torque for days. I'd say all things equal in the same chassis, the 7.3 would walk away from the coyote in most any street race situation or 1/8th mile. 1/4 Mile maybe not because the 5.0 has time to spin up. But you're right. This would be awesome as an offroad engine.
This is certainly exciting for Ford. Unfortunately, I think the cost will keep the LS relevant. Love Ford but they have a history of building exciting engines and then changing things up as soon as it gets popular. Gonna be a great engine I'm sure but it will never reach the swap status of other engines.
You described how Ford tests their motors with everything attached. Do you know if Chevy and Dodge also give their factory numbers with everything attached?
@@413x398 exactly. I honestly thought that it was gonna be a turd like the 6.2 dohc motor. But I waited to see numbers before jumping the gun. I may consider this swap instead of a coyote, but I'm gonna wait for more information on reliably and more on numbers.
Unless this engine is dirt cheap like the LS it’s not worth getting. The LS made it big because it’s super cheap and narrow so it fits every where. Cheap = easy. Ford engines have always been more expensive compared to GM. So why get your hopes up? I’ll stick with a more reliable engine, like the Coyote.
Bob -omb : nope, the weight dressed and ready to run without trans on the 2.3 Turbo is 348 for the iron 1983 to 1988 Mustang, Mustang SVO, Tbird TurboCoupe, and less for the Ecoboost 2.3. The iron headed 351 Cleveland Boss 4v was 569 pounds with pressure plate, the 351 M/400 Ford stripped was 650 pounds and Aussie 351C with Ac and Power steering was 719 pounds ready to run. The 370/429/460 varied from 650 to 750 depending on accessories.
Appreciate the vids. Looking at the last torque curve you posted, that rollover at 5500 rpm looks like the camshaft and not a head limitation. Can you confirm?
Funny all the racers are excited. The big truck guys are the ones who should be excited. Big power out of a GAS engine with out the EPA restrictions on emissions/DEF
One of these in a new regular cab f150 with a blower equals the baddest lightning ever
Maybe, but the current 5.0 dohc in a regular cab f150 which you can order has a quarter mile record of 9.2.
I might put one in my 71 maverick grabber
If you're gonna do a true Lightning, you need supercharger whine. The Coyote makes 650hp easily with a supercharger. If you need a supercharged 7.3, there's something wrong with ya lol
It wouldn't LMFAO 10r80 TT regular cab stock engine running 9.sec
@@justinluttrell1769 The benefit to building a larger displacement engine like this is the fact that it can be built much more mildy, cost less on regular maintenance items, provide less strain at the same given power level and make that power earlier in the rpms. Lots of benefits for a car that sees street use.
Coming from a Mopar guy here, I think this is going to be a monster engine line for Ford. Can’t wait to see what the aftermarket can deliver for it.
Same here! I’m a diehard Ford guy but man, some of those challengers are sexy!! Especially the Demon 😍😍😍
I wish Bloomberg commercials were banned on this channel
Get AdBlocker or similar. I haven't seen an ad on YT since 2006.
Bob Wise I wish they had Gretta Thunberg commercial on here
Bob Wise, I love seeing Bloomberg waste his money.
@@spankthemonkey3437 How dare you!!!!!!
Agent Orange she needs to see what real muscle is like guarantee she'll dump the soyboys and her Tesla car
Just wait a year or 2 for the aftermarket to get going should be interesting.
Look at the space in the valley. We're going to see blower kits from VMP and Whipple and Bell within 2-3 months.
@@413x398 ya VMP is really ontop of things i wouldnt be surprised if they already have a prototype
It will play out just the 6.2 Raptor, not enough demand so it will be expensive forever....
Ford knew what they were doing when they designed this one. They were giving all us old schoolers a treat.
Not going to happen bud... It's been 9 years and the aftermarket is barely there for a coyote. It's going to take quite a while before there's an aftermarket for a 1 ton truck engine.
I'm a chevy guy, but I keep drooling over this engine. It's intrigued me since they announced it a while back.
Agreed, Chevy needs to put the 454 lsx in a car. Maybe bring back the chevelle or el camino
This is gonna be good . The problem Fords always had was cost to build .
@@moro1112 I believe chevys making a new 6.6 not sure if it's pushrod or anything like that.
@@coolbreeze298 I was thinking the same thing, a guy on another post was talking about how it took the aftermarket so long to get there for the coyote, thing is this is a smaller engine with more displacement and a lot easier to work on.
Are you too mentally challenged to STOP being a chebby guy?!? 😲
Thank you for less unneeded talk and more action / info.
This is currently my favorite youtube series. 😂
Thank you.
REVan Evan you’re welcome 😎🙌
Disclaimer: Chevy guy commenting in a Ford house.
Let me start by saying that I'm glad Ford is making a big pushrod engine and it's a proper one at that. It's gonna be great for guys that don't want to LS swap their Mustang (even I think that's lame) or other Ford project.
But I didn't see any pricing (even preliminary numbers) for a crate motor...does anyone have those numbers without an NDA?
(Chevy mode engaged)
You can pickup a 441ci LS short block for around $6K and dress it out for another $3K. In the end, you're looking at the same power or more in a smaller package, that is lighter, and has 20yrs OEM and aftermarket development.
(Chevy mode off)
The LS motors were really expensive when new and I doubt a stock 7.3 Godzilla long block or crate engine is going to be under $10K for at least a few years.
Don't get me wrong...is big, it make serious power, it's not DOHC, it's a Ford and I think it's great.
Finally nice to hear a Chevy guy be polite and nice about a ford..It does get old see the same old comment just Ls swapp it..Being a ford guy myself I would rather build up a 351w from day one..I will admit that the Ls does like you said they make good horsepower out of a relatively small package.Ford definitely has the cylinder head advantage with the 5.0 Coyote.I seen where someone explained that if the coyote was a same cubic inches as the 6.2 ls it would have roughly around 510 horsepower which is impressive.I am glad that ford finally came with the 7.3 Godzilla because I agree with the points you made well said dr.rockso !!!
JMC RJC we're not all assholes and the truth is that I'll hotrod anything with an engine. I just finished helping a friend build a 331 (all forged bottom end, AFR 185cc heads, CompCams NX274) for his '65 Mustang he restored in high school...i spec'd the parts and it's way hotter than we expected.
I cannot deny the Coyote's superior head flow numbers...but it's not like they had to make sacrifices to deal with pesky pushrods.
Ford has done incredible things with the (D)OHC layout...i only see two issues limiting thier popularity. First they're "more complicated" because they have more moving parts, but that's a dubious argument these days; more importantly they're just so wide that it can be hard to swap them into many cars.
Keep your foot on the loud peddle buddy.
@@drrrrockzo I think it's cool that are you more broadly minded in the way of thinking past just being a brand loyalist..Especially helping a buddy out on an old Ford or an old anything ! If the price was right I would buy a 4x4 crew cab Chevy with a 5.3 as I am a middle aged man now I realize that there's so much more to enjoy out there.If we all felt the same way about everything it would be a boring world wouldn't it lol ? You have a good night ! 5 am is rolling up on me fast.
dr.rockzo ford performance is now selling “coyote power modules” for around $10-$15k depending on if you want auto or manual and it will start up and run on the pallet they send it to you on. Everything you need for a swap. Pay an extra $500 for oil pump gears and a crank sprocket, maybe some ARP head studs and you’re ready for 1k hp. What exactly is the 441 and what are the power capabilities? Never seen that displacement. Considering this 7.3 is 445 ci.
@@jmcrjc6799 On fords performance parts website the 5.2 aluminator crate engine makes 580 hp n/a and 445 lb-ft with 12.0:1 static compression. Granted it's not a production engine and is pretty much designed for road racing but still its making upper 500 hp with only 5.2 liters of displacement. Its all in the airflow and with the higher rpm capabilities it can flow a lot of air, torque is a different story but hey everything has comprises.
The cam they added sounds super tame.. would love to see results of fully ported stock heads, intake, a bump in compression and a Real cam.. like a 260ish @ .050" kinda cam..
Soon....very soon! You gotta know Comp is already working on some killer cams. Ford has gotta get a great CNC ported head that will handle all that lift too. Its coming! ;-)
Nearly 600 hp already with a tune and headers with an RV+ cam and exhaust port clean up. That shows some real potential! I can't wait!
I'm pretty sure it was designed as a truck engine. Towing heavy trailers filled with hay burners and hay up steep hills requires low end torque. If you go crazy with cam lift and timing , all that power moves way up the rpm curve. Might be good for the drag strip, but not so much for towing / hauling stuff .
@Ford Fanatic 6 bolt mains
My first time seeing a video from these guys.
Right to the point, no BS, no gimmicks, no-nonsense. Great information..
Thank you.
as soon as these engines become available im putting one of these in my 78 bronco and in one of my Early broncos. only weighing 130 pounds more then a coyote is insane
Ford Performance has them now.
WOW! The aftermarket is going to have a field day making parts for this monster! I'm not brand loyal, but Ford knocked it out of the park with this one, and it's gonna hurt some serious feelings when they become available for racing.
Ford is back baby cant wait to put this in my 78 bronco
sailing kwon I put a 7.3 diesel in my 75 Highboy now I need to put a 7.3 gas in my 79 bronco😂
sailing kwon you read my mind, was thinking this would be a good swap into my 65 f100
stop, my penis can only get so erect
I got a 78 f150 begging for a new engine.
@@mooman86 My brother is putting a 7.3 in his 68 ford. Diesel though. Going to be pretty sweet! This motor would be awesome in any vehicle however!
2 cents from a hemi guy, I'm very excited about this engine series the ohc has its place but I love a push rod engine with a wedge head I hope Chrysler comes up with one
My theory is push rod or bust. 😆 And this is coming from a guy who's both a Chevy and Ford guy. I got no problem with the Chrysler crowd though 😉
I just hope Chevy doesnt abandon pushrod motors for dohc for all their V8’s with the new Corvette Z06 coming.
Heads cam intake manifold and other bolts 5.7’s hemi’s are making close 500 whp which is around 600 crank
Samson Reynolds yea this motor will never be what the Chevy LS is a cheap but reliable monster cranking out over 1200 hp from unopened engine.
@@spankthemonkey3437 I'm not spreading any hate but years ago everyone was saying that about the small block Chevy, my point I'm trying to make is accept and embrace change or you'll get get stuck behind
"We swapped it with a roller cam" Spoken like a true old school v8 builder. This comes with a roller Cam from the factory. The roller lifters is not an upgrade. Perhaps higher lift Cam would be a better choice of words, That way you don't have a bunch of people walking around saying all you need to do is put a roller Cam in it.
Oh god I'm getting flashbacks from all of the hillbillies talking about their 302 ROLLA MOTAS in the early 2000s....
I hear they actually put a 3/4 race grind in it. Locals figure it's souped.
After 95 with the introduction of SJ oils having less antiwear ZZDP, everybody went to Rollers. Flat tapped getting ruined af.
Great video - compact and concise and gave us the info without any waffle that a LOT of other channels have - thanks!
Would really help if Ford would offer an aluminum block version in certain model f-150's.
Just wait for the rich guys to pour money into R&D and make billet blocks
Yeah, but aluminum blocks have lower strength limitations than High nickel cast iron blocks but As we all know they are heavier. And this being the age of super Chargers and turbos You need a very strong bottom end If you throw a lot of boost at it.
Never happen in the F150 because of emissions standards, f250/350 have lower standards due to GVW
Awesome! I'm so glad they've come up with something that suits some of us Old-Timers that just don't seem to be able to swallow those mod blocks I was true blue all my life until they put the camshaft on top I hope this really puts old Blue back in the game
I'm sure Engine Power would love to get there hands on the 7.3L Godzilla V8.
That's a great idea. Maybe they can work with trickflow and holley on the project.
@@subshooting8414 Now that would be awesome brother.
OMG..... THAT will fit in my 02 Restored to new F350 !!!!!!
Add compression, timing, and E85 first before boost
Adding compression with boost will be a time bomb💥
We have computer controls for boost, fuel, timing, valve timing, so it should be easier than ever!
@@marcusladon1796 not with e85. You can still have some compression with a cooler running fuel like ethanol or methanol, advance the timing map to run out the back, and keep the cam lobe separation low, you could run pretty high compression.
@@jonathangray7067 how high are we talking???
Marcus La'Don this engine actually has thinner connecting rods than a coyote. It will never handle the power the 5.0 can
Two things...
First, that aluminum fancy intake makes me think of old school metal supercharger scoops sticking out of hoods with the 3 circle flaps. Then I think of this motor, and that big metal scoop, sticking out of the hood of a 78 LTD 2. What a hoon of a car that would be!
Second thing, why did you start your graph at 3500 RPM? this is supposed to be going into big trucks. I for one would like to know how this thing is going to be leaving a stoplight with a big load behind it. Sure sure, a 35 speed auto trans(or whatever they are up to these days) will certainly allow for gears to let the engine spin up faster into the power band. I still want to know. I want to know how it compares to old big blocks, or even the 8.1/allison combo sitting in my shed right now. Peak HP is great. My current heavy truck has "pull over a tree" power at basically idle. I would like to know how this new godzilla will do in the same rpm range, both because it will speak to it's heavy duty use, but also because it will tell a tale about how it "feels" when you drive it.
Anyone that has driven a true big block from years ago will tell you nothing they have made in the last 15 years "feels" like that. If godzilla is going to be another 5500 rpm narrow power band relies on the transmission to work type of motor, I will be dissapointed both in it's "feel" in driving, but also in the implecations that has to putting it in an old car. For that matter, if there is no option besides the factory mated 10 speed or whatever, not sure I want to drop that into an old car either. There's more to driving then just speed, for me at least. I tune my cars for driving, hooning, speed, but not all at the same time in the same car, if you know what I mean.
We're going to have fun with this engine for the next 20 years.
Looks like after over two decades ford finally has created an engine almost as good as a 1998 LS1. Good job ford. Good job.
RRRIIIIGGGGGHHHHHHTTTTTTT!!!!
Your out you mind. The 3.5 eco makes more power than your beloved 8.2
@Roger Rice dude you must be a comedian because you made me laugh so hard I spilled my drink. Thanks I needed a good laugh
@Roger Rice dude you must be a comedian because you made me laugh so hard I spilled my drink. Thanks I needed a good laugh
500+ hp with just a tune and headers is pretty stout from the factory.
When the aftermarket gets some heads, intakes, and cams for this thing it's gonna be a beast!
I'll take one now with the tune and headers. 508hp is good enough for me.
Expect parasitic loss of 50hp for accessory drives. It'll benefit heavily from an electric water pump, electric cooling fan and electric power steering.
@@randythompson4006 That still has loss
@@5.43v minimal as in 5hp to run a large alternator.
I think this is going to end up being a legendary engine!
hope so its a copy of gm ls motor
@@acemay3 And the is a copy of a Ford motor.
@@petergiannaros9037 most people have no clue that superv8 cars build the ls for ford. but ford didn't want so Chevy bought it.
This engine will be a great swap for an old school muscle car or hot rod or even in an old school F100.
Talledega clone!
@@vincentenk4449 Sounds awesome brother.
@@vincentenk4449 Or even a really cool swap for a late 60's Ranchero.
Don’t kid yourself, it’s gonna be a civic swap
@@FSXflyermaster LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or be a great swap for the 92-96 Ford TRUCKS.
Gap the rings and boost it..
Almost 600hp n/a with very little work done... I think 900-1000hp with 10-13psi of boost can happen
Kevin Luck he’ll he’s easily and of course much more
Yes**
This engine with 6 psi and a good time will make 900, with their current mods
With even better more modern metallurgy than the LS, and more cubes? That's a tow truck tune....heheheheh....if the GenIV LS motors can make 1800 with gapped rings and race gas, this should be able to hit 1800 and be streetable. >:o)
It made 508 before they did anything to it, that shows how happy the engine dyno configuration is.
This is awesome stuff guys. Lets hope that 10 years from now these will be in all the auto wreckers going for under $500 like that ls engine lol
The only way that is going to happen is if Ford sticks that engine in a ton of different production vehicles, as GM did with the LS. Keeping it only in the Super Duty ain't gonna make for cheap and plentiful. Look at the Coyote... it's been out for years and the junkyards still ain't givin' them up at a decent price. These 7 point 3's are going to be relegated to crate engine status from Ford with associated parts to swap into other vehicles. Maybe some support from Holley. Ford faithful must break out their wallets.
Ford better release this as a crate engine because not everyone wants Windsor carbureted engines for swaps from their catalogs
Well knowing ford and looking at there track record they'll use this engine for a couple years make a few tweaks to it. Then after a couple years once its finally about perfect switch to a new engine that's completely untested and complete the cycle all over again.
@@konnerkramer329 I hate to agree, but yeah.
Won’t happen
Your description of how that engine works, makes my rapid thought mind sleep better.
Great to see Ford back in the pushrod game. Would be awesome to see one of these make it into a production mustang.
Nobody way this in a S550 that's ass backwards
They need an aluminum block.
Steve Reinhart the 5.0 coyote is better lighter and with a good cam kit can produce more power than this engine. Plus this engine has fairly thin rods I think they are smaller than coyote rods
Spank Themonkey the 7.3 will always make more horsepower. It’s just the way physics work man, sorry, I don’t make the rules.
This engine will be a builders dream. Can't wait to see the results.
Can't wait to see what kind of heads trick flow and afr cook up for these new 7.3 v8s.
BBC guy here , I’m excited to see this thing roll out .
If a 404 lb. coyote was after me.. I'd probably die.
Buff Barnaby probably
And a 540 pound Godzilla would be severely emaciated.
Is your name Dodge?
Lmfao
Or, a 750 pound Grizzly...
I see how you raised the exhaust port roof. Hopefully aftermarket heads will cast them even higher to really get it flowing. As for boost, I think two 64mm with E85 would really make this thing go. I'm 46,and I bleed Blue. Best Ford pushrod engine since the 427 side oiler. Or a "71" Boss 351C 4V.....
Mike i would like to see a cleveland with an aftermarket block to 445 cid and all the mod teck and see how much hp it makes
@@aussiesupersnake6642 hell yeah. It sucks that you can only safely go .030" overbore on Cleveland blocks. But those 4V heads flow like crazy and have huge valves.
I would love to see what this setup would do with a borg warner s500 turbo. at least 1000hp on pump 91
Great videos on the first new 'BIG' factory engine in a couple decades! Another avenue of interest besides hot rodding would be to create a truck package which primarily ups the torque, improves fuel efficiency AND keeps the engine emissions legal.
Lede buried: Holy crap, a Coyote is only 400 pounds?!?
I know right. Coyote is a pretty awesome engine.
@@rdy2run332 Its an outstanding V8 engine.
The perkins d3.152 2.5l 3 cylinder in my dad's 96 Lincoln sa250 welder weighs 462 pounds
I mean, we live in a world where a fully dressed 427 weighs 450 pounds.
@@SoI_Badguy and an all aluminum 428 Windsor is even lighter
GOOD JOB FORD! This is a race engine folks! You are getting a GT40 427 bored FE block with a 428 SCJ stroke and 429 SCJ heads. This is the engine that Ford should've made back in 1968 instead of the 385 series engines.
The almost constant roar reminds of the 460
I kinda think Ford should have shot for 7.5L anyway with it.
I don’t think a 7.5 would be good since back then those things were gas hogs and the 460s today are still gas hogs
It's the new generation of the 460 ! It has all of the technology that the 460 doesn't ! 15 ci more and you got a 460 with all the technology! That blows the competition away!
It's the new generation of the 460 ! It has all of the technology that the 460 doesn't ! 15 ci more and you got a 460 with all the technology! That blows the competition away!
460 is junk in stock form.
I’ve been a GM guy all my life, but doggone, this is the first V8 I’ve been excited about in *years*. Absolutely bang-up job by Ford, can’t wait to get my hands on one - I’ve got dreams of a Gen 1 Raptor with one of these Bad Larrys in it.
This would be an awesome boat engine. Perfect substitute for the big block Chevy. Lighter, more power reliably and newer technology.
Love the way you explain everything for us not to savy on car mechanics, keep up the good work
Come on let us hear some idle too! Especially with that cam
I'm ready to add boost-got a pair of turbos at the ready-twin S475 or we can go full EBAY (GT-45s)
Great videos. Please keep them coming! Thanks for posting.
Thanks Scott.
We want more 7.3 videos please
Could you do a tear down commentary on the Boss 6.2 ? I would like too know how much one of them weigh !
I've got to say, that is impressive! Although it is a heavy engine, the horsepower doesn't disappoint.
A lot of us free up restrictions but I would like to see it with a little front dress and an optimal air cleaner. Real numbers 👍👍👍
Throw one of these in an Excursion with the 10 speed hell yeah great combo
Nice work. This is very interesting. It’s been some time since ford has had an interesting “new” big block. I’m sure in no time it’ll be 800+hp na relatively reliably. I’d like to see an aggressive cam and moderate boost from a centrifugal blower. I foresee it being a popular engine.
What are the transmission options with it? What will bolt up,to it?
10 speed is all Ford has to mate to it that I know of.
Mod bellhousing pattern. Any 4R70, 4R100, 5R110, 6R140 that will bolt to modular motor. Huge range of choices, even including the new 10 speed stuff
@@acemobile9806 How about E4OD? Yes its an old trans but still.
@@SOU6900 4R100 is basically the same as an E4OD. By the time it came around to the mod motors, it was referred to as the 4R100.
Wonder who’s gonna make a clutch and flywheel kit for a stick shift.
Looking forward to seeing a good set of rods and big boost on that combo.
I wanna see a Mustang Mach 1 or Cobra Jet with this engine.
I hope this becomes the new LS. I'm a huge ford fan but I've always wanted a new big displacement engine and here it is. I want two of them lol.
Looks like it would be an alternative to a diesel - with a lot less maintenance and emissions control woes.
Literally exactly what it is bro
Oddman1980 it's not meant to be what the coyote is. The connecting rods are thinner than the 5.0 rods. This motor won't handle what the Chevy LS engines or the 5.0 coyote can
Ford built this engine for fleet service they actually asked the public that buy fleet vehicles what kind of engine they wanted and that what they got
Never a Chevy guy, love the Blue Oval. What a monster.
Not bad. Pretty basic nothing crazy and it put down 580hp?!?! I see 700 N/A HP in the near future with a better cam. ported heads proper Intake. slightly more compression. This thing has potential. Can’t wait till they find the weak points (witch I don’t see hardly any) so they can come up with solutions to make them bulletproof
Ron Gravel I mean 6 main bolts is pretty badass for a stock block ! But hopefully we do/don’t see any weak points lol
Once again. Great job guys. I can only see the future getting better. With the aftermarket jumping on board the future is bright. Procharger is on board
I hear whipple is coming. I would love to see cam manufacturers step up and guys like edelbrock bring some new heads..
I feel like 600 H.P. in one of these will feel different than a 600 H.P. DOHC engine. It roars like Godzilla too!!
A lot more torque
More like a 600 HP 446 ci engine feels different than a 600 HP 302 ci engine.
The DOHC makes more torque per CI, better VE, and carries the power further. A 446 ci Coyote would outpower and outtorque this tired 7.3 by a mile.
@@BC08 This 7.3 will do just fine, and I am NOT saying that it's more powerful, but it's just a different feel and sound (I watched a Dyno video, and instantly thought of the 460). It's not tired. I realize that Coyote makes more power but they're both Ford and so when you add them up, Ford has everything you could ask for. *Your Move,...and, Go*
Righteous Indignation. LOL, NHRA top fuel has very major little innovation due to class regulations. OHC was banned in the 60s.
I’m sorry you are unable to comprehend the concept that 4 valves per cylinder allows for much more valve area for a given bore size. You can bet your ass Top Fuel would pick up a bunch of power with an optimized DOHC 4V head.
Righteous Indignation. I don’t need to ask myself, I already know the answer. Because diesels generally rev 3500 rpm tops and the reduced moving valve-train mass offered by a DOHC valve-train isn’t a worth the increase is physical size. If they were revving 6500 - 11,000 rpm the boons of a DOHC valve-train (which is superior in all ways save packaging) are worth the increase in engine width. Pretty simple.
The general 16 pushrod/rocker bridge setup used in most current 4V diesels are pretty fragile, and pose valve stem wear issues even in low-rpm diesels.
The 7.3 is a dinosaur, Ford has had great engines for decades (5.4/5.8 Ford GT/GT500 4V, Coyote 5.0), the 7.3 will be a footnote in history just like the 360 FE.
Great video and thanks for sharing.
Dam that sounds good 👍🏼
This is one of the most exciting things to hit the car industry since the LS. I cant wait to get my hands on one. But which one of my cars should I put it in?
Love the motor! Keep up the great work
Very excited to put one of these in my notchback, any word on ford performance offering them as a crate engine yet? I live 10 minutes away from the engine plant in windsor where these are built, too bad I cant buy one directly lol
The sound at startup is exactly like a 3.5 Ecoboost.
I always love the sound an engine makes when the dyno buckles down on it.
Ford needs to bring back the torino or galaxy and put one of these in it but with more car parts instead of truck parts.
Have you seen the new Torino rendering?
@@jesusisalive3227 It's a fake.
@@413x398
That's why I said rendering!
That intake looks badass. Perfect swap for my dad's 79 f250 with the disappointing 351m. Less than 200 to more than 500 HP with modern big block technology, I better hit the lottery.
So much for the 700lb estimates from the internet know it all's.
With accessories it would be really close to that.
@@HioSSilver1999 no one gives a damn about accessories. Every engine is going to have an alternator possibly a p/s pump and they're all going to add about three same weight for each engine. Those are moot.
@@bryanmulligan5319 no reason to act like a dick. Fact is not all accessories weigh the same. The bracketry itself can be massively different. Unless it's going in a full on drag car it matters. This is a large heavy engine.
@@HioSSilver1999 way smaller and lighter than the 2v and 4v mod motors
@@HioSSilver1999 I'm not trying to be a dick, so sorry if I came off like that. My point is that alternators, P/S pumps, and A/C compressors are all probably very close in weight that weighing them with the accessories is kind of pointless. The front cover of this engine is massive and Brian Wolfe already hinted that guys are going to be able to put it on a diet and taylor it to their needs. I'm a Ford guy and other than the Coyote, they've been pretty underwhelming since they put the mod engine in the Mustang in 96, so this engine is exciting. I'll give up a few pounds for the promise this engine has. I just hope my enthusiasm translates to availability down the road. If they're not cheap and plentiful in a few years, then it's all for not in my opinion.
Thankyou for the videos really enjoying them,even though i have cars that are boosted,i really love a high revving n/a motor,i would to see how far you take this by increasing the comp,head work,and solid roller cam
Thank you
R.E. ………….great job , very thoughtful and pragmatic approach to getting us updated !!!!!!!! just like the good old days at MM&FFs
Thank you!
I had one of these 7.3 engines in a 93 F350 and it pulled a 38 ft trailer as if it were an empty utility trailer. Never had any issues.
Awesome... Stuff! How big of a cam did y'all swap in? Where did y'all find a cam for it?
I would imagine it would have to be a custom in house cam as new as it is.
Cam specs are in previous video
@@bradarsenault6984 only the lift was given...
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage ahh, I think that is all that had changed. I also think it was a one off cam to see what it could do.
I don't know if it has already been asked but... what bell housing bolt pattern does it have ?... did it keep the modular ?...or other ?..or in typical Ford fashion did they give it a whole new pattern ?...Midas well ask about motor mounts while I'm at it.
Ford finally got the spark plugs in the right place
Lol true. I love the modular motors but I also love the old Ford v8s. Windors, FE, Cleveland's, and the almighty 385 series👍
Great video and information Evan, thank you!
Oh good! For a minute there I thought it was going to make as much power as an LS. That was a close one.
That's probably important for people with an inferiority complex...
@@buckhorncortez Yes for 20 years now Ford has owned GM's lame as pushrod engines. Now this thing comes out and sets the pushrod world on FIRE. It's got so much new tech there's no way GM or Mopar could ever catch it. Way beyond, like nothing we've ever seen before. :rolleyes:
Except with a Level Playing Field they don't
Mod motor sweep of the podium and because of that domination the overhead cam engines have their own class now and aren't allowed to run with pushrod motors.
www.hotrod.com/articles/2013-amsoil-engine-masters-challenge-top-finishers/
GMs LS3 n/a makes 525hp 6.2 pushrod motor, all aluminum, 6 bolt mains, piston oil coolers.
@@peewee7405 The hi performance version.. This is truck tuned
I'd love to see you guys work with Pat Topolinski and Mike Galley at Engine Power in Franklin, TN. (PowerNation) So many ideas with this new engine. Sounds freaking awesome! I want one!
Too bad these will be limited to superduty trucks, they won't be cheap
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Doesn’t seem that way
How else could you get it
This is so going into my 96' Bronco :)
I want one of these to stick in my ranger so bad
Bradford Backyard Builds me too
I'd love to see what you guys can do N/A. 13 or 14:1? Would love to know what it can do. I cant run a power adder in my class
So essentially.....it's inferior to the Coyote motor. It makes more power, sure....but not by much. Especially when you look at hp/liter.
Take a Coyote motor, add a cam and an intake manifold and your numbers are not that dissimilar. And you're still 130lbs lighter. This seems like it would be amazing in an offroad vehice moreso than a street car.
Add 4 cams, to the tune of 1200 bucks
The Coyote is wide this engine will swap into an early shock tower car much easier.
And I dunno if you've ever driven something with a coyote or not. But below 2500-3000 rpm they are completely gutless. And im saying this as an owner of a full bolt on S550 mustang gt that I daily drive. This engine is designed for low end torque. And given the displacement it's hard for it to not have torque for days. I'd say all things equal in the same chassis, the 7.3 would walk away from the coyote in most any street race situation or 1/8th mile. 1/4 Mile maybe not because the 5.0 has time to spin up. But you're right. This would be awesome as an offroad engine.
I’m no Ford fan but this was a very well done video!!!
This is certainly exciting for Ford. Unfortunately, I think the cost will keep the LS relevant. Love Ford but they have a history of building exciting engines and then changing things up as soon as it gets popular. Gonna be a great engine I'm sure but it will never reach the swap status of other engines.
You described how Ford tests their motors with everything attached. Do you know if Chevy and Dodge also give their factory numbers with everything attached?
anyone else remember when yolodouchebag was talking crap about this engine last year?
Fuck yes 😂 he said it'll never make power and the coyote will always be better. 😂 for a truck engine, this thing is making crazy power.
@@austinthiry6731 I like Alex, but maturity teaches you not to jump the gun. Patience.
@@413x398 exactly. I honestly thought that it was gonna be a turd like the 6.2 dohc motor. But I waited to see numbers before jumping the gun. I may consider this swap instead of a coyote, but I'm gonna wait for more information on reliably and more on numbers.
6.2 was SOHC
@@stevlagrantbulldogs the one in the Ford Raptor? I thought it was DOHC. Either way. It was a turd.
The future is bright with this new motor
Ford finally made a engine that I would take my 351w out and put in its place.
But at what cost
@@daisbestDA9 right now its out of my reach.
Could you do a video talking more about the transmission compatibility with the 7.3? It'd be great if it's easily mated to a ZF S6 and ZF5
the thought of this in a super duty with a ZF6 has me grunting like Tim the tool man
@@highland512 that'd be cool, my idea is a bronco with the 7.3 gas and a ZF S6 cause I like that crawler 1st gear in the 6spd
Unless this engine is dirt cheap like the LS it’s not worth getting. The LS made it big because it’s super cheap and narrow so it fits every where. Cheap = easy. Ford engines have always been more expensive compared to GM. So why get your hopes up? I’ll stick with a more reliable engine, like the Coyote.
The whole idea behind this engine is reliability!
So this video is 2 years old now.
Aren't the latest crate variations good for 600hp out of the crate now?
That's awesome, its lighter than the Ford 2.3T motor!
Bob -omb : nope, the weight dressed and ready to run without trans on the 2.3 Turbo is 348 for the iron 1983 to 1988 Mustang, Mustang SVO, Tbird TurboCoupe, and less for the Ecoboost 2.3. The iron headed 351 Cleveland Boss 4v was 569 pounds with pressure plate, the 351 M/400 Ford stripped was 650 pounds and Aussie 351C with Ac and Power steering was 719 pounds ready to run. The 370/429/460 varied from 650 to 750 depending on accessories.
@@deanstevenson6527 I haven't put my SVO motor on a scale but after stripping it down, I lifted the shortblock out of the chassis without a hoist.
Rumor was the old 2.3t was 450lbs dressed
Appreciate the vids. Looking at the last torque curve you posted, that rollover at 5500 rpm looks like the camshaft and not a head limitation. Can you confirm?
The heads flow ~320cfm from the
Factory. That's good for between 600-650hp NA. the cam is definately the culprit here.
Ill bet these ford trucks will be stolen more often just 4 motors
then dumped in some creek or river...
not saying you’re right, but it’s gonna be hard to steal these high tech cars/trucks... but you never know
Hard to steal Hi-Tech cars yep tow trucks on the other hand pretty easy to get a hold of
Andrew Erickson i’m sure they have trackers, especially if they get repoed
They finally wised up and went back to a pushrod. Awesome motor ford! Maybe people will finally forget about 14 years of the 5.4 3v
445 cubic inches is "Godzilla"? When I was a kid there were bigger engines than that in cars parked at the church on Sundays.
HalfCrazy520 yessir I remember those 500 cubic inch cadillacs old ladies drove.
And they made 250hp....
stevenminix 502 and 470 something cubic inches those motors would feel like they wouldn't stop pulling
Funny all the racers are excited. The big truck guys are the ones who should be excited. Big power out of a GAS engine with out the EPA restrictions on emissions/DEF